.htmlNo, I'm not talking about Alex's picture.  (Just kidding, Alex.)

Actually, I want to tell everyone a little of a three hour phone conversation
I had last night with Joe Russo.  He's the guy who has a book coming out this
June titled "Planet of the Apes Revisited" on the making of the entire series.

Way back in the mid-seventies when we were kids, Joe and I used to correspond
about POTA.  (Yes, we were pen-pals!)  I sent him copies of the movie's
soundtracks I'd taped off the TV (This was before VCRs folks.) and Topps
bubble gum cards.

Anyway, we eventually lost touch but Joe pursued his POTA obbsession to the
extent that he interviewed nearly everyone involved with the films and even
visited Arthur P. Jacobs house before Natalie Trundy sold it in the
mid-eighties.  It was cool to hear him tell me about being in Jacob's private
home theatre and in the vault were Jacobs kept his personal film collection
(including, Joe told me, a box with the label on it "King Kong outakes"!!!   
Jacobs loved "King Kong.").  He also read for me some of Jacobs' inter-office
memos during the making of each film, along with the shooting schedules.  
This is all stuff he photo-copied while visiting Natalie Trundy.  Most of it
is fascinating, especially about what certain people thought should be
altered or cut in each film.  How much of this will make it into the book I
don't know.

The best part was when he played for me some of the tape recordings he has
from all the interviews he's conducted with everyone from Mort Abrahams and
Ted Post to Charlton Heston and Roddy McDowall.  An especially cool one was
James Gregory telling about being made up as Ursus in the scene with the ape
army in the desert watching the mutants' illusions, and Gregory looking over
to see Maurice Evans falling off his horse.

I told Joe he has to get these interviews transfered to CD soon -- they're
like having a DVD commentary track.  After his book comes out I think I might
try to talk him into selling copies of these things.

Anyway, I think this will be THE book to buy when it comes out.  If you want
to ask Joe Russo anything about his book, or think you might have something
to contribute (while there's time) he can be reached at the e-mail address:  
strangedesire@...

-- Rory<.html

Wow! That sounds like a great book. I will definately have to check that out
when the time comes.

I would love to hear the audio as well! I'm sure there's some fascinating
stories there.

Thanks for sharing Rory!

Matt

In a message dated 3/8/01 8:16:23 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@...
writes:

<< I told Joe he has to get these interviews transfered to CD soon -- they're
like having a DVD commentary track. After his book comes out I think I
might
try to talk him into selling copies of these things. >>

Now see, this is exactly what I'm talking about. This is why fans should be
doing the DVDs instead of Fox. Then WE'd have something worth buying,
instead of making them rich by picking up every piece of crap they sling us.
How's that for an ape metaphor?

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I have a great copy of the ape insignia that the chimps wear and a few
others including dr zaos', but his is rather bland. I would like any more
ideas or pics, etc of cool pota tattoo for me to get in the next week or so.
im very serious about this and going to do it,despite my friends laughing at
me telling me it is stupid, well last time i checked, getting a tattoo on MY
BODY is what I want to do? right, and besides i think they are just jealous
and envious that i have liked something like POTA for so long, and have an
autographed dr zaos hanging in my office overseeing everything, pota
mousepad, desktops, etc adn now it is going to be the biggest movie of the
summer...oh well..send me some ideas you may think are cool for tattoo. i
KNOW someone has got to have a surpluss of cool things, i forget what they
are actually called..the insignias the apes wear on their uniforms..thanks


kc

-----Original Message-----
From: pota@yahoogroups.com [pota@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:47 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Digest Number 346


There are 7 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Swiss Cheese
From: LordTZer0@...
2. Downloadable Trailer
From: "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@...>
3. POTA items for sale !!! installment payments
available
From: "Terry Hoknes" <comicsape@...>
4. Me-Myself-and-I
From: "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@...>
5. Re: Downloadable Trailer
From: "M Grigg" <phaelo@...>
6. Somehow...it makes you look less intelligent.
From: Haristas@...
7. Re: Somehow...it makes you look less intelligent.
From: MTotsky@...


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From: Lynne Miller

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 10:17 AM

Subject: RE: [pota] POTA UKcomics

I can't wait to see that issue, Terry.  Any idea when that issue will come about?

                                                 *Lynne*

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Today was a great Ape Day for me. I got some more Medicoms (Caesar, Caesar
Battle Variant, Land Ape, Land Ape Variant, Astronaut Taylor and Cornelius).
I love these figures. The only one I am not crazy about is Taylor. He seems a
bit too tall and the likeness is not exact (he seems a bit cross eyed). I
thought the other one was too tall as well. Oh well, the damn dirty apes are
excellent!

I also received a Planet of the Apes Archives Trading Card Set that I won off
of ebay. This is very cool too. There's a lot of pictures I've never seen
before. Damn, I wish the DVDs would have been packed with some of this cut
footage (the extended Taylor chase scene, the Nova pregnancy scene, the
violent stuff from CONQUEST and BATTLE).

What a great day!

Matt (Damn my wallet all to Hell!)

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.html Hey Matt,

Don't damn your wallet just yet!  MEDICOM just released the last 3 figures;

"The Greatest Ape" (Lawgiver Statue),
"Ape-o-naut Cornelius", and
"Ape-o-naut Milo"

Brace yourself for MEDICOM rehab!!!

Brian

MTotsky@... wrote:

Today was a great Ape Day for me. I got some more Medicoms (Caesar, Caesar
Battle Variant, Land Ape, Land Ape Variant, Astronaut Taylor and Cornelius).
I love these figures. The only one I am not crazy about is Taylor. He seems a
bit too tall and the likeness is not exact (he seems a bit cross eyed). I
thought the other one was too tall as well. Oh well, the damn dirty apes are
excellent!

I also received a Planet of the Apes Archives Trading Card Set that I won off
of ebay. This is very cool too. There's a lot of pictures I've never seen
before. Damn, I wish the DVDs would have been packed with some of this cut
footage (the extended Taylor chase scene, the Nova pregnancy scene, the
violent stuff from CONQUEST and BATTLE).

What a great day!

Matt (Damn my wallet all to Hell!)

<.html

KC <kc@...> wrote:

>I have a great copy of the ape insignia that the chimps wear and a few
>others including dr zaos', but his is rather bland. I would like any more
>ideas or pics, etc of cool pota tattoo for me to get in the next week or

so.

>im very serious about this and going to do it,despite my friends laughing

at

>me telling me it is stupid, well last time i checked, getting a tattoo on

MY

>BODY is what I want to do?

I've got to say I think it would be pretty cool. I know someone who is in
the process of getting the cover of an old Batman comic tattooed on his
arm - at the moment he's got the Joker coloured and an outline of Batman
tied to a giant candle, waiting to be coloured - and it looks terrific. I'd
do it myself but I'm a skinny sod and there wouldn't be enough room on my
arms for a tattoo.

Anyway, for suggestions - I'd like either an Ursus in "I Want You" pose, or
else perhaps a nice illustration from one of the old mags - Ploog perhaps.

Alan

There are some old circular Iron On Transfers that might look good as a
tatt....or maybe a shot of the ship going down....

Michael

-----Original Message-----

Subject: Re: [pota] Tattoo Ideas please

Standard icons might work. i.e. Statue of Liberty, The Lawgiver, a tribal of
the scarecrows. I still like the idea of the chimp patch.

I was flipping through the latest issue of Maxim Magazine (it's kind of like
a sexed-up GQ) at the drugstore tonight and they had an article about the 100
greatest movie moments. I was pleased to find out that they ranked the Statue
of Liberty reveal in POTA all the way at #2. (#1 was a tie between some John
Wayne moment and Phoebe Cates revealing her boobs in Fast Times at Ridgemont
High). There was also a cool photo of the Liberty scene.

Also, the latest issue of Vanity Fair has some shots from the Burton POTA
flick. They look pretty good.

Matt

Those wacky guys in New York sent me an Astro Zira even after confirming
my order was canceled. Oh well, Now I have a pristine MOC one, even though I
didn't plan on it. I'll save it in the collection for investment purposes.

.html <.html

I may just take you up on that offer Terry.
I went to the book store today and they had Vanity Fare, April's edition!
Why can't I find this mag?

There's a nice pic of Kim as Zira in the Cinescape article -- an unusual
angle.

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In a message dated 3/9/01 10:32:02 PM Central Standard Time,
comicsape@... writes:

<< you cant miss the march issue, its got a fairly sexy cover!!! >>

It just hasn't been in the stores around here.
Even the store where I saw Feb issue, doesn't have it.

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Now, if I were inclined to get a tat, I think I'd go for my favourite
APES from past ( or future, which ever way you want to look at it) and
present. Something a little like this...



OK, so now who's got too much time on their hands?
That'd be me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=568214279

Hey, any of you U.K guys seen these figures? I've just bought the four "APES ATTACK" carded figures but wondered if you guys
had any more details on the others referred to in the above Ebay posting?
Best,
KEN

Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@...> wrote:

>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=568214279
>
>Hey, any of you U.K guys seen these figures? I've just bought the four

"APES ATTACK" carded figures but wondered if you guys

>had any more details on the others referred to in the above Ebay posting?

I was under the impression that they were Japanese, rather than British
(although I see a lot of British sellers flogging them on e-bay so I'm
probably wrong). I have to say that from the pictures I've seen of them,
they are the most bizarre looking toys I've ever seen. Even the Marvel mag
never went this psychedelic. Really weird. The heads are like PotA
characters but the costumes are totally bizarre multi-coloured efforts with
all sorts of weird bits and pieces (some of the helmets they wear... jings).

They also look like the sort of dodgy unlicenced toys you'd find in a market
somewhere ("ooh, look, it's Luke Skytrekker from Space Wars!" etc.).

Alan

I wrote:

>they are the most bizarre looking toys I've ever seen. Even the Marvel mag
>never went this psychedelic. Really weird. The heads are like PotA
>characters but the costumes are totally bizarre multi-coloured efforts with
>all sorts of weird bits and pieces (some of the helmets they wear...

jings).


Geez, it's sad when I have to resort to replying to my own posts. Anyway,
I've just had another look at them and to be honest, this one is kind of
cool:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=566206031


This one, however, matches my original statement about them being weird:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=566209407

Hmm. Might bid on them actually.

Alan

OH YEAH ! An audio commentary with this sort of material
would be a major coup. Actually, any sort of bonus stuff
would be an improvement.

Ok, the "Behind" documentary was great but, there's
so much more sitting in the vaults - foreign poster images,
featurettes, deleted scenes, alternate takes, the original
test reel in its entirety, ( HEY - and maybe a whole whack
of Alex's music video's ) that FOX couldn't be bothered
adding to the DVDs.

And lets have the TV Series, the cartoon, and extended versions
of Conquest and Battle while we're at it...

The James Bond fan clubs actively participated with MGM on the
007 disks and the results were just outstanding. Documentaries for
every movie, rare material from private collectors, hours of new
interviews with just about every surviving participant, two audio
commentary tracks in some cases, deleted scenes, music videos for
the later songs - the making of the MTV video in one case !
and on and on..

Then maybe we wouldn't need a silly menu option for bonus materials
that leads us to only ONE option, which is to play the same 5 trailers
already imbedded on all the other disks..sigh..

Geez, I feel better now. Can't wait for Joe's book though.

- Kurt

> ____________

.html To me, they look like the old Masters of the Universe He-Man figures with Ape heads.  (Maybe recast Medicoms or MEGOs).  I wouldn't be surprized if the feet had the 3 toed Skeletor boots!

B

Alan Maxwell wrote:

I wrote:
>they are the most bizarre looking toys I've ever seen. Even the Marvel mag
>never went this psychedelic. Really weird. The heads are like PotA
>characters but the costumes are totally bizarre multi-coloured efforts with
>all sorts of weird bits and pieces (some of the helmets they wear...
jings).

<.html

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>From: "Michael Whitty"

>

>

>Terry (and Ken!)

>

>I recently visited Ken Taylor and he showed me some foreign language Planet

>of the Apes comics I found quite interesting. They were based on the TV

>Series.

>

>Ken, what country were these from again?

>

>Terry, are you aware of these/can you tell me more?

>

>Michael

>

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>From: MTotsky@...

>Subject: [pota] First Post

>Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:34:41 EST

>

).

>

>Recently I got a chance to watch the TV series for the first time since the

>70s (I found a guy at work who had the whole series on tape). Overall, I

>found it pretty enjoyable and liked the three central characters a lot (as

>well as Urko). I wish they could have wrapped it up somehow (I wonder what

>ever happened to Virdon and Burke).

>

<.html

.html <.html

Hey Matt, thanks for the heads up on Maxim. Very cool mag, first checked
it out at the barber shop, of all places. Nice shot of everyone's favorite
cave babe. Thanks again, John

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Hey Gang,

Apemania's ECONOMY Dr. ZIRA mask is finally ready for release! Yahoo! I
know quite a few of you were asking and it's finally ready!

Here's a foto of the first one off the finishing table! We'll have some
good catalogue shots up soon.

Have a good weekend,

Brian Penikas
Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM

WOW!
Very nice Brian.
As usual.
Best,
KEN

Brian Dumont wrote:

> Hey Gang,
>
> Apemania's ECONOMY Dr. ZIRA mask is finally ready for release! Yahoo! I
> know quite a few of you were asking and it's finally ready!
>
> Here's a foto of the first one off the finishing table! We'll have some
> good catalogue shots up soon.
>
> Have a good weekend,
>
> Brian Penikas
> Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [Image]

I happened to see the video for "Stayin' Alive" by the Bee Gees again
today - is it my imaginiation, or was this filmed in the same place as parts
of the PotA TV series? There is a ruined train station (complete with ruined
train) that looks very much like the one briefly seen in The Legacy.

And while I'm on the subject, does anyone know where "The Trap" and "The
Legacy" were filmed?

Alan

Thanx Ken,

B

Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

> WOW!
> Very nice Brian.
> As usual.
> Best,
> KEN
>
> Brian Dumont wrote:
>
> > Hey Gang,
> >
> > Apemania's ECONOMY Dr. ZIRA mask is finally ready for release! Yahoo! I
> > know quite a few of you were asking and it's finally ready!
> >
> > Here's a foto of the first one off the finishing table! We'll have some
> > good catalogue shots up soon.
> >
> > Have a good weekend,
> >
> > Brian Penikas
> > Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM

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.htmlAlan --

I believe the POTA TV series was shot at the Malibu Fox Ranch, now Malibu
Creek State Park, and at the Twentieth Century Fox Studios on West Pico Blvd.
 The ruined city exteriors of "The Trap" and The Legacy" were shot on the
studio lot on the "Hello Dolly" New York street set.  Many of the sets for
"Hello Dolly" were redressed in used in BENEATH, too.  The New York street
set is still standing at Fox and is used for the TV show "NYPD Blue," in fact
I read that "NYPD Blue"'s interior sets are on Stage Nine at Fox and that's
the same stage PLANET was shot on.

-- Rory<.html

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.html yeah Alan,
They do look like something you'd see in a $2 shop. Interesting though that who ever made them is dramatically too far off the look of the costumes for the new movie. Well, the Medieval influence anyhow. They seemed to have prematurely jumped the band wagon.
Back in the '70's there were a couple of Mego style knock offs produced. One series called either "Astro Apes" or "Space Apes" ( Michael, can you confirm?) and another called "Action Apeman" which were made by AHI who actually had the official licence to make APE products but couldn't make action figures because of the existing Mego deal. These guys show up on Ebay fairly regularly. See pics below.
Best,
KEN

Alan Maxwell wrote:

I wrote:
>they are the most bizarre looking toys I've ever seen. Even the Marvel mag
>never went this psychedelic. Really weird. The heads are like PotA
>characters but the costumes are totally bizarre multi-coloured efforts with
>all sorts of weird bits and pieces (some of the helmets they wear...
jings).

Geez, it's sad when I have to resort to replying to my own posts. Anyway,
I've just had another look at them and to be honest, this one is kind of
cool:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=566206031

This one, however, matches my original statement about them being weird:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=566209407

Hmm. Might bid on them actually.

Alan

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In last weeks discussion about letter boxing I forgot to mention something
that seeing How The West Was Won reminded me of . . . Cinerama films, because
of the three projector system, always has fairly obvious divisions of the
screen into thirds. I don't know if the bulb strength makes the difference,
or the prints don't match, or if it's just the overlap. But every time I see
one, it bothers me. Does that bug you?

.html  
Back in the '70's there were a couple of Mego style knock offs produced. One series called either "Astro Apes" or "Space Apes" ( Michael, can you confirm?)  

<.html

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>From: JSe3689836@...

> Hey Rory, funny you should mention MediCom. Just got my first two, Nova

>& Taylor. Not really a collector, but I had to get Nova. And figured she'd

>like some company. Too bad they're discontinuing the line. I wanted to see

>her in the Bomb Mass robe. John

<.html

.htmlLTZ --

Yeah, the transfer of "How The West Was Won" bothers me, but that old
Cinerama process had lots of problems.  The different strips of film need to
be perfectly color matched, and it only looks "right" on a curved Cinerama
screen anyway.

I'm glad POTA wasn't shot that way.

-- Rory<.html

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Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

<.html

Hey Lynne, and don't forget Taylor's post firehose line "You're not as
smart as Stewart, but your the only plastic girl in town...." By the way,
still getting those nbsp's, John

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Thanks Alex, I didn't catch the first one on AH. John

.html <.html

.htmlI got a call from Amok Time (Amoktime.com) in New York that they are
expecting the last three Medicom figures (Ape-o-nauts Cornelius and Milo from
ESCAPE, and the Lawgiver [called Greatest Ape]) to be in tomorrow, Tuesday
March 13th.  

Their phone number is (516) 520-0975

Also tomorrow Chuck Heston's "Ben-Hur" is supposed to be released.

-- Rory<.html

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1550224468/ref=pd_sbs_t_2/107-4914053-9930103

Not sure if this one's been covered yet by the group, so here's the
link.
It's looking like I'm going to need a bigger book case.

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Did anyone catch the 2 second clip on CNN? It's a quick nightime
shot that looked like Tim Roth's character holding down Whalberg's
head and looking into his mouth, then flinging him away.

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Here's my wallpaper for the 2001 version of POTA.

It only took me about 5 minutes to create.... Ho-hum...(Yawn...)

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Here's my wallpaper for the 2001 version of POTA.

It only took me about 5 minutes to create.... Ho-hum...(Yawn...)

OB101Go

Sweet!

Nice work there Matthew, if you ever get into the Wallpaper mode let me know and I'll post them on my site.

I'll be posting this one today. Very nice.

 

Best,

 

Alex

<.html

.html I am the owner of subject drawing.  The artist is Morton Haack.  I believe he
was connected with making of the original POTA.  I am not a fan nor collector
of POTA memorabilia.  There is a story as to how it came into my possesion. I
am aware of a vast population of POTA devotees.  I am willing to sell this
item should there be any interest forthcoming.  Thank you for assistance. 
Ted Heller- zellthem@...
<.html

Ken Taylor <kentaylor@...> wrote:

>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1550224468/ref=pd_sbs_t_2/107-491405

3-9930103

>
>Not sure if this one's been covered yet by the group, so here's the
>link.
>It's looking like I'm going to need a bigger book case.

Hmmm... no doubt there is going to be a lot of Ape books published to cash
in on the new film (I see PotA Revisited has been announced... again) but I
always have my doubts about the ones calling themselves "unofficial
companions" or something similar. More often than not, they're full of
pictures that are either common or amateur, and full of information
available elsewhere (not to mention often poorly researched).

Still, hopefully some good should come of it too. I like the sound of the
"Legend of the Planet of the Apes" one, and PotA Revisited should hopefully
be quite good if it ever appears.

Alan

.html

>From: "Mez Downes"

>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com

>To: pota@yahoogroups.com

>Subject: [pota] Re: POTA Trailer Online Now!

>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:52:37 -0000

>

>Hey, you're only here a short time and already you're leading us

>deliciously astray! Thanks and welcome, Matt.

>

>BTW, I don't know if you or anyone else is interested but I run a

>little site on the TV series, url below. Tried to sign up for the

>Apes Webring but got no answer -- Caesar must be too busy with that

>rebellion of his.

>

>http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~pdownes/potatv/potatv.html

>

>/Mez

>

<.html

.html

>From: JSe3689836@...

>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com

>To: pota@yahoogroups.com

>Subject: Re: [pota] CONQUEST/BATTLE CD

>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:32:32 EST

>

> Hey Lynne, and don't forget Taylor's post firehose line "You're not as

>smart as Stewart, but your the only plastic girl in town...." By the way,

>still getting those nbsp's, John

<.html

I'm getting that nbsp stuff too.

Loc

I'm thinking I need 6.0 to read this stuff . . .

In a message dated 3/14/01 4:07:31 AM Central Standard Time,
cosmicraye@... writes:
<< <DIV>
Is everyone getting that 'nbsp' thing? Is it just me sending out weird, or
Yahoo scrambling me?
*Lynne* >>

.html

>Here's my fun theory about the ultimate fate of Virdon and Burke: I think

>that they finally got home, but they were the astronauts that brought back

>the virus from Earth that killed all the dogs and cats!

<.html

.html

>From: LordTZer0@...

>

>

>If she's not going I'm not either.

<.html

Matt says...

>Here's my fun theory about the ultimate fate of Virdon and Burke: I

think

>that they finally got home, but they were the astronauts that

brought back

>the virus from Earth that killed all the dogs and cats!

So what was with that dog running around in the first scene of the
first episode? Also, you'd think if they knew about future ape rule,
Virdon and Burke would have hunted down lil Caesar themselves,
Starsky and Hutch style, in the late 70s/early 80s . . .

.html

>From: "Alexander Ruiz"

>

>http://216.117.169.167/bowyourhead-video.rm

>

>1.7 megs, music video trailer remix.

>

>Hell, I could make a living at this!

>Best,

>

>Alex

<.html

Village Voice

Check out this article at <http://villagevoice.com/vls/173/dery..html">

.html

>From: MTotsky@...

>Remember that newscaster who interviews Dr. Hasslein about his theory towards

>the beginning of ESCAPE? He was an actual reporter by the name of Bill Bonds

>and he was kind of a local media celebrity here in Detroit. He was known as

>great reporter, but also known for a lot of controversy. He had repeated

>drunk driving offenses and even showed up drunk on the news set several

>times. A colorful character, he had a wide assortment of toupees that he

>would wear on the air. He once challenged ex-Detroit Mayor Coleman Young

>(also a controversial figure) to a boxing match on the air (it never took

>happened). I once saw him at a Red Wings game and was tempted to go ask him

>how he ever ended up in ESCAPE, but I didn't feel like hassling the guy. He

>hasn't been on the news for several years, but he has recently resurfaced in

>a bunch of cheesy commercial for a local furniture store.

>

>For whatever reason, I just felt like sharing that.

>

>Matt

<.html

From Cinescape Online:

In addition to Scorpion King, Duncan is also in Tim Burton's Planet
of the Apes. The actor revealed one method Burton used to make sure
the final film has a surprise ending, saying, "We filmed about four
or five different endings and Tim Burton picked the best one. I wish
I could tell you, but it is so good. Take my word for it. You will
not believe it."

http://www.figures.com/Features/index.html
show_article=19621&domain=figures.com&dom=fig&domain_id=4

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Lynne Miller <cosmicraye@...> wrote:

>Is everyone getting that 'nbsp' thing?

I'm not having any problems at my end. 

Alan 

Hey Lynne, I still get the nbsp, but it doesn't show up in the archives.
Strange. Anyhow, don't want to get off topic. Did you catch Chuck on AH last
night? It was pretty cool. Later, John

<< Because my thoughts at the end of this script were, WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?
Truth be told I liked 90% of the script, but the ending kind of left me
feeling a little puzzled. Kind of like, DAMN THIS ENDING REALLY SUCKED! >>

What's this?
Alex, saying the new film Sucks?
Well, first I've heard of it.
As I rightly remember, when he first read it he gave it rave reviews.
Seems there's a bit of revisionist history here.

<< Just out of curiosity, why would she let them list her as coming if she
doesn't want to associate with the new film and she doesn't do cons? Well, I
still want to go to see any Apes things they have! >>

Just ask.
She's very nice about that sort of thing.

.htmlI got a call sheet from the new POTA movie off eBay a couple weeks back, and
I thought I'd share with everyone here some of the things it says on it --
especially since postings have been so light lately.

I bought a call sheet from Thursday, February 8th, 2001.  I wanted that date
because the original premiered on that day in New York in 1968, thirty-three
years ago.

According to this sheet February 8th was day 59 of 79 shooting days (I think
the original was shot in 49 days.).  This call sheet was from the Ridgecrest
Production Office, Ridgecrest, California for the Trona Pinnacle location.  
Everyone was to arrive on set at 6:15 AM for a 7:15 shooting call.  Sunrise
for the day was 6:43AM, sunset 5:24PM.  The weather was mostly sunny, cloud
cover 30% or less, no rain was expected, highs in the mid to upper 50's,
5-15MPH winds.

Mark Wahlburg had a 6:30AM make-up call, but Tim Roth and Michael Clarke
Duncan each had 4:15AM make-up calls.  Paul Giamatti's was for 3:45AM, and
Estella Warren's was 5:15, but worst of all was Helen Bonham Carter who had
to be in make-up at 3:30AM.  I think I've read that her's takes longest
because she has to be a pretty chimpanzee.  (By the way, there's a note that
"Crew Members Must Not Interface With Chimps" -- whatever that means)  There
were also around three dozen stunt people that day, equally playing either
humans, chimps or gorillas.  Some chimps and gorillas had 4:15AM make-up
calls, while others only 6:15, so I guess the earlier ones wore appliances
and the later ones just masks.

The scenes shot that day were (if all went as planned):

EXT. CALIMA-FRONT OF RUINS-W/POD-POS
Attar kneels at Krull's grave.  Ari mourns.  Leo holding Pericles, says
goodbye to Ari.

EXT. CALIMA-FRONT OF RUINS-DUST
Limbo saves Leo, Thade attacks Leo.  A sound.  Dot seen-pod lands.   Apes and
humans react.  Pericles hops out, hugs Leo.  Apes flee.  Thade attacks Leo.  
Fight #1.

EXT. CALIMA-FRONT OF RUINS W/POD
Leo runs to pod, says goodbye to Limbo and Daena.  Leo gets in pod and closes
hatch.  Group watches cruiser rise and take off.

EXT. CALIMA_THE PLAINS OR CLIFFS
Birn on horse, watches cruiser rise and take off.

This Pericles mentioned is played by a real chimp because the call sheet
mentions "Chimp Animal Trainers: Pericles and Twin, Chimp Trainers, Pericles
gives thumbs up, Pericles scampers into Leo's arms."

The sheet also mentions that whatever they didn't get that day they'd finish
on Friday, then on Saturday travel back to LA - scout Vasquez Rocks and Sun
Valley (Quarry).  This is interesting because a brief part of BENEATH was
shot at Vasquez Rocks -- the scene where Brent fights the gorilla on the
wagon.

It goes on to say that on Monday interiors would be shot in the Los Angeles
Center Stages, Stage #3.

INT. THADE'S TENT
Ari asks Thade to let humans live.  Thade brands Ari.  Krull storms in.

INT. APE'S RIVER CAMP-TENT
Attar prays, tent lit up by flame.

Well, there's a lot more on this thing but I've written enough.

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In a message dated 3/14/01 10:53:00 PM Central Standard Time,
Haristas@... writes:

<< (By the way, there's a note that
"Crew Members Must Not Interface With Chimps" -- whatever that means) >>

I'm sure that means the real chimps. They must not want the chimps to form
bonds and be distracted from their trainers and the actors they must interact
with. I doubt that Burton is using it as a directors technique to alienate
the actors playing chimps.

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LordTZer0@... wrote:

In a message dated 3/14/01 10:53:00 PM Central Standard Time,
Haristas@... writes:

<< (By the way, there's a note that
 "Crew Members Must Not Interface With Chimps" -- whatever that means)  >>

I'm sure that means the real chimps.  They must not want the chimps to form
bonds and be distracted from their trainers and the actors they must interact
with.  I doubt that Burton is using it as a directors technique to alienate
the actors playing chimps.

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You really have nothing better than that to do!

Planet of the bugzoids!

M

> From: Philip Nobile <pjn1209@...>
> Organization: none
> Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:34:44 -0500
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Caesar's new owner
>
>

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>From: "Alan Maxwell"

>

>Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

> >I have a CD of "Escape" PLUS the "Mephisto Waltz" ( also Goldsmith) which

>has

> >very plane packaging that was released by Pony Express. It claims to be

>volume

> >one in a series of "film music by jerry goldsmith". It also says that it's

>for

> >promotional use only. So if it's not a bootleg it may be a test disc for a

>legit

> >CD that was never released?

>

>Nope, that's a boot. It's just common practice to print something like

>"promo" on it to make it look otherwise. I don't want to encourage illegal

>bootlegging of Apes goods, but if you want to get ahold of the love theme

>from Escape (that rather nice 70s-sounding ditty that plays while the apes

>go shopping) then this is currently the only way to get hold of it.

>

>I suppose you get someone to copy the bootleg for you, then the bootleggers

>aren't getting any money either! :)

>

>Alan

>

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--- In pota@y..., Mark Gould <mark.gould@a...> wrote:

> You really have nothing better than that to do!

You're right. I'm terribly ashamed, especially in the company of a
list who spends its time so preciously.

It took me five minutes. Didn't you write a novel?

People in glass monkeyhouses . . .

In a message dated 3/15/01 10:40:48 AM Central Standard Time,
pjn1209@... writes:

<< People in glass monkeyhouses . . . >>

Were you people breast fed on bile?

<< Thank goodness there is someone else that also needs the Love's Theme from
Escape in the soundtrack!! I was actually going to retape the CD and add
that to the end of the tape. It was such a cute theme, I thought!! And
there is a CD now with that on there? Anyone have it or know where I can get
it?>>

What scene was that in?

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<LordTZer0@...> wrote:

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>What scene was that in?

The one where the chimps go shopping, etc.

Alan

Ahem,

I suppose so. Muchos apologias. Sometimes I was up till 3am typing away,
then throwing it away and rewriting it the next night. Don't do writing - it
really is very frustrating. Next time I'll just compose something instead -
much easier.

Keep posing those Medicoms.

M

> From: "Phil " <pjn1209@...>
> Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:37:14 -0000
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Caesar's new owner
>
> --- In pota@y..., Mark Gould <mark.gould@a...> wrote:
>> You really have nothing better than that to do!
>
> You're right. I'm terribly ashamed, especially in the company of a
> list who spends its time so preciously.
>
> It took me five minutes. Didn't you write a novel?
>
> People in glass monkeyhouses . . .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

.html Oops!  Somebody better tell Tony (the seller) that he's screened the Ursus and Zaius glyphs upside-down!!!

B

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

I'm not really much for movie t-shirts, but I have to admit these are pretty damn cool. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=570151290 Best, Alex

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--- In pota@y..., Mark Gould <mark.gould@a...> wrote:

> Keep posing those Medicoms.

It's my legacy. A body of work that will endure long after I shuffle
off this mortal coil . . .

The last wave of them sumbitches have just hit our shores. Look for
Ebay to go haywire and day now.

Just bought the final wave. Seller tells me that the Lawgiver statue
is BIG - the card is twice the size of the other figures. I bet this
is the hottest piece in the lineup. If you only have one Medicom on
your desk at work . . .

Also, for you package freaks, the other two astros are packed with
helmets OFF! Check out Ebay . . .

<< Just bought the final wave. Seller tells me that the Lawgiver statue is
BIG >>

Didn't see em yet on Image Anime...hope they get em soon!

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Alexander Ruiz <prophecysite@...> wrote:

>Here it is guys!
>The Large Medicom LAW GIVER!
>
>DAMN THIS THING REALLY IS BIG!!!

YOU FOOL!!! YOU'VE TAKEN IT OUT THE PACKAGING!!!


Alan

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DAaaaaaaaaam!  Your girlfriend has some hairy legs, Al!

B
 
 

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

 Here it is guys!The Large Medicom LAW GIVER! DAMN THIS THING REALLY IS BIG!!! Best, Alex

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Hi All

For those of you who do not want to fumble through eBay to find the new
wave, here are all 3 (unlike Alex, mine are still packaged!). This shows
the difference in size:

http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/Medicomlastwave.jpg

Also, this is a comparison between the standard Caesar and the limited
edition version. Fairly obvious difference between "Conquest" Caesar in
chains (common) and Limited Edition "Battle" Caesar dressed just like Pa
(all but the missing Glyph...).

http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/caesars.jpg

And finally, this is a comparison between the standard Caesar Land's Ape and
the limited edition version. The Chimp at left is the common version and
the gorilla at right is the rare one. Neither has a chain but each has a
different rifle.

http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/landapes.jpg

Hope this clears any confusion. Hats off to the chaps at Medicom for a
GREAT effort!

Michael

.html Hi Mike,

Thanx for the heads-up!  I can see myself getting at least a dozen of those Lawgivers!!!  Hoowee!

Hey, does your Conquest Gorilla have an orange or a red jumpsuit?  Mine is kindof orange/brown.

Brian

Michael Whitty wrote:

Hi All

For those of you who do not want to fumble through eBay to find the new
wave, here are all 3 (unlike Alex, mine are still packaged!).  This shows
the difference in size:

http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/Medicomlastwave.jpg

Also, this is a comparison between the standard Caesar and the limited
edition version. Fairly obvious difference between "Conquest" Caesar in
chains (common) and Limited Edition "Battle" Caesar dressed just like Pa
(all but the missing Glyph...).

http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/caesars.jpg

And finally, this is a comparison between the standard Caesar Land's Ape and
the limited edition version.  The Chimp at left is the common version and
the gorilla at right is the rare one.  Neither has a chain but each has a
different rifle.

http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/landapes.jpg

Hope this clears any confusion.  Hats off to the chaps at Medicom for a
GREAT effort!

Michael

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--- In pota@y..., "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> Hi All
>
>
> And finally, this is a comparison between the standard Caesar Land's Ape and
> the limited edition version. The Chimp at left is the common version and
> the gorilla at right is the rare one.

Thanks for the pics, Michael. Only quibble is that by all accounts, the
CHIMP slave is the rare one. Which is good, because getting multiple
gorillas will be that much easier . . .