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Group: pota Message: 4903 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: Medicoms
Group: pota Message: 4904 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Order your Medicoms NOW!
Group: pota Message: 4905 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Heston's Role
Group: pota Message: 4906 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: Heston's Role
Group: pota Message: 4907 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: Medicoms
Group: pota Message: 4908 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: medicom on up and see me sometime
Group: pota Message: 4909 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Medicom Last Wave and Caesar/Caesar Land's Ape Variants (accurate a
Group: pota Message: 4910 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: Medicoms
Group: pota Message: 4911 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: Heston's Role
Group: pota Message: 4912 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: Caesar's new owner
Group: pota Message: 4913 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: Medicoms
Group: pota Message: 4914 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: Heston's Role
Group: pota Message: 4915 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Cool E-mail POTA EXTRA
Group: pota Message: 4916 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Dark Horizons
Group: pota Message: 4917 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/18/2001
Subject: Re: Medicoms
Group: pota Message: 4918 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/18/2001
Subject: Oascar Night
Group: pota Message: 4919 From: Brian Dumont Date: 3/18/2001
Subject: New Medicoms
Group: pota Message: 4920 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/18/2001
Subject: Re: Oascar Night
Group: pota Message: 4921 From: Lynne Miller Date: 3/19/2001
Subject: Re: Poll
Group: pota Message: 4922 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/19/2001
Subject: CD
Group: pota Message: 4923 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/19/2001
Subject: Re: CD
Group: pota Message: 4924 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/19/2001
Subject: POTA in TV Guide
Group: pota Message: 4925 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 3/19/2001
Subject: Re: POTA in TV Guide
Group: pota Message: 4926 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 3/19/2001
Subject: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4927 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 3/19/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4928 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/19/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4929 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 3/19/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4930 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/19/2001
Subject: Serling's ending
Group: pota Message: 4931 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 3/19/2001
Subject: Re: Serling's ending
Group: pota Message: 4932 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 3/19/2001
Subject: POTA Autographs
Group: pota Message: 4933 From: locutusatwolf359@aol.com Date: 3/19/2001
Subject: Re: POTA Autographs
Group: pota Message: 4934 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4935 From: locutusatwolf359@aol.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Apes blurb in new EW...
Group: pota Message: 4936 From: Brian Dumont Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: POTA Autographs
Group: pota Message: 4937 From: Brian Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Shooting completed in Hawaii
Group: pota Message: 4938 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4939 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Serling's ending
Group: pota Message: 4940 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: POTA Autographs
Group: pota Message: 4941 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4942 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4943 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4944 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: POTA Autographs
Group: pota Message: 4945 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Once in a lifetime
Group: pota Message: 4946 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Official Web Site Update
Group: pota Message: 4947 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Fwd: [GAPNews] GAP and Zoos / Captivity
Group: pota Message: 4948 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Once in a lifetime
Group: pota Message: 4949 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Once in a lifetime
Group: pota Message: 4950 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: CD
Group: pota Message: 4951 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4952 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4953 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4954 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4955 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Poll
Group: pota Message: 4956 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: "It's just a theory."
Group: pota Message: 4957 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Poll
Group: pota Message: 4958 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: T- Zero is Kim Hunter?
Group: pota Message: 4959 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Poll
Group: pota Message: 4960 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4961 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: "It's just a theory."
Group: pota Message: 4962 From: Lynne Miller Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Memphis
Group: pota Message: 4963 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Poll
Group: pota Message: 4964 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4965 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: CD
Group: pota Message: 4966 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: ALERT! * * * * Possible Spoiler
Group: pota Message: 4967 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4968 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Arthur!
Group: pota Message: 4969 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Fwd: [GAPNews] GAP and Zoos / Captivity
Group: pota Message: 4970 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: DVD
Group: pota Message: 4971 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: "It's just a theory."
Group: pota Message: 4972 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: ALERT! * * * * Possible Spoiler
Group: pota Message: 4973 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Me-Myself-and-I
Group: pota Message: 4974 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Go, Joe!
Group: pota Message: 4975 From: Lynne Miller Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Me-Myself-and-I
Group: pota Message: 4976 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Maxim Magazine Greatest Movie Moments
Group: pota Message: 4977 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Planet of the Medallions
Group: pota Message: 4978 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: THE REAL SPOILER ALERT!
Group: pota Message: 4979 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: ALERT! * * * * Possible Spoiler
Group: pota Message: 4980 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: DVD
Group: pota Message: 4981 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Memphis
Group: pota Message: 4982 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Poll
Group: pota Message: 4983 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: ALERT! * * * * Possible Spoiler
Group: pota Message: 4984 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4985 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: "It's just a theory."
Group: pota Message: 4986 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Why, Alex, Why?!!!
Group: pota Message: 4987 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Why, Alex, Why?!!!
Group: pota Message: 4988 From: Brian Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Once in a lifetime
Group: pota Message: 4989 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: LAWGIVER POSTER
Group: pota Message: 4990 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: DVD
Group: pota Message: 4991 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Why, Alex, Why?!!!
Group: pota Message: 4992 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Exclusive Medicom Law Giver!!
Group: pota Message: 4993 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Kim Hunter in Memphis
Group: pota Message: 4994 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Trailer rating
Group: pota Message: 4995 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: POTA Autographs
Group: pota Message: 4996 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Exclusive Medicom Law Giver!!
Group: pota Message: 4997 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
Group: pota Message: 4998 From: Brian Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Exclusive Medicom Law Giver!!
Group: pota Message: 4999 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Kim Hunter at Apes' 30th
Group: pota Message: 5000 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Exclusive Medicom Law Giver!!
Group: pota Message: 5001 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Trailer rating
Group: pota Message: 5002 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
Subject: Re: Trailer rating



Group: pota Message: 4903 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: Medicoms
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>Thanx for the heads-up!  I can see myself getting at least a dozen of those >Lawgivers!!!  Hoowee!

Wow! you can say that again.

That is one I will be buying up. A must open display!

Best,

Alex

 

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Group: pota Message: 4904 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Order your Medicoms NOW!
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GET THEM WHILE THERE HOT BABY!!
 
 
Just ordered mine.
This guy is lightning speed delivery, less than one week.
5 days Tops!
 
Best,
 
Alex 
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Group: pota Message: 4905 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Heston's Role
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Did someone say Heston is a chimp in the new movie?

Michael
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Group: pota Message: 4906 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: Heston's Role
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>Did someone say Heston is a chimp in the new movie?

>Michael
Chimp-Master is more like it.
Read his role myself.
 
Best,
 
Alex
 
P.S. Mike did you get my CD yet?
Just wondering.
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Group: pota Message: 4907 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: Medicoms
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Hi Brian
 
Interesting qusestion - now you mention it I must agree my Gorilla has more of a orange/brown jumpsuit, but I believe it is trying to be red.......I wonder why?
 
I could not work out what was going on with the variants - mainly because of the unusual choice to nam a "Slave Ape" a "Caesar Land's Ape".  I alsofind it amazing they did not just refer to the Lawgiver as such - rather than "Greatest Ape".  I wonder if the "Statue of Liberty" is "Greatest Human"? :)
 
I discussed this with Ken Taylor recently and we are wondering if there is an English Translation issue here.  Anyone in the group know?  I will be asking this question to my friend in Japan.
 
Michael
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Dumont [afryt4u@...]
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2001 21:57
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Medicoms

Hey, does your Conquest Gorilla have an orange or a red jumpsuit?  Mine is kindof orange/brown.

Brian

Michael Whitty wrote:

Hi All

For those of you who do not want to fumble through eBay to find the new
wave, here are all 3 (unlike Alex, mine are still packaged!).  This shows
the difference in size:

http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/Medicomlastwave.jpg

Also, this is a comparison between the standard Caesar and the limited
edition version. Fairly obvious difference between "Conquest" Caesar in
chains (common) and Limited Edition "Battle" Caesar dressed just like Pa
(all but the missing Glyph...).

http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/caesars.jpg

And finally, this is a comparison between the standard Caesar Land's Ape and
the limited edition version.  The Chimp at left is the common version and
the gorilla at right is the rare one.  Neither has a chain but each has a
different rifle.

http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/landapes.jpg

Hope this clears any confusion.  Hats off to the chaps at Medicom for a
GREAT effort!

Michael



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Group: pota Message: 4908 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: medicom on up and see me sometime
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Hi Phil

Thanks for picking this up -you are quite right.

As I mentioned before I really am confused by this wave - it really is a
mystery why such completely different characters should be called a variant.
I mean, fair enough to call the Cornelius with a BROWN suit in the first (or
second?) wave a variant (although it did not have a sticker to identify it
as a variant like the Soldier Ape did). The soldier ape just had a
different head and gun.

But these fellas are COMPLETELY different. Variant Caesar is just a
completely different figure. Variant Caesar Land's Ape is a different
species!

I originally thought there were 2 variant Caesars (ie I thought the variant
Caesar Land's Ape was an additional Caesar variant). How very confusing.

I am going to re-post the Medicom email accurately now!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Nobile [pjn1209@...]

Only quibble is that by all accounts, the CHIMP slave is the rare one.
Which is good, because getting multiple
gorillas will be that much easier
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Group: pota Message: 4909 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Medicom Last Wave and Caesar/Caesar Land's Ape Variants (accurate a
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Hi Again
I recently attempted to explain the differences between some Medicom
Variants. Here is the accurate version of that explanation.

For those of you who do not want to fumble through eBay to find the new
wave, here are all 3 (unlike Alex, mine are still packaged!). This shows
the difference in size:
http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/Medicomlastwave.jpg
Also, this is a comparison between the standard Caesar and the limited
edition version. Fairly obvious difference between "Conquest" Caesar in
chains (common) and Limited Edition "Battle" Caesar dressed just like Pa
(all but the missing Glyph...).
http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/caesars.jpg
And finally, this is a comparison between the standard Caesar Land's Ape and
the limited edition version. The Gorilla at left is the common version and
the Chimp at right is the rare one. Neither has a chain but each has a
different rifle.
http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/landapes.jpg
Hope this clears any confusion. Hats off to the chaps at Medicom for a
GREAT effort!
Michael
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Group: pota Message: 4910 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: Medicoms
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Yes Alex,
 
Open it up - and get all your pals to as well.....then mine will be the only one to remain sealed......I love it!
 
Michael
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz [prophecysite@...]

That is one I will be buying up. A must open display!

Alex

 



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Group: pota Message: 4911 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: Heston's Role
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Thanks for the info Alex
 
No, I have not yet received the CD.
 
I'll let you know when I do.
 
When did you send it?
 
Michael
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz []
Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2001 6:44
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Heston's Role

>Did someone say Heston is a chimp in the new movie?

>Michael
Chimp-Master is more like it.
Read his role myself.
 
Best,
 
Alex
 
P.S. Mike did you get my CD yet?
Just wondering.


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Group: pota Message: 4912 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: Caesar's new owner
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> > In pota@y..., Mark Gould <mark.gould@a...> wrote:
> > You really have nothing better than that to do!


<pjn1209@...>writes:

> You're right. I'm terribly ashamed, especially in the company of a
> list who spends its time so preciously.
>
> It took me five minutes. Didn't you write a novel?
>
> People in glass monkeyhouses . . .


Umm, I really think he was just joking...


Chris L.

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Group: pota Message: 4913 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: Medicoms
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Yes Alex,
 
Open it up - and get all your pals to as well.....then mine will be the only one to remain sealed......I love it!
 
Michael
 
No Mike, I mean I'm buying more that one Lawgiver, so I can open at least one of them. All my medicoms are sealed. (I think their much cooler that way)
 
Best,
 
Alex
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Group: pota Message: 4914 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Re: Heston's Role
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Thanks for the info Alex
 
No, I have not yet received the CD.
 
I'll let you know when I do.
 
When did you send it?
 
Michael
 
Little over 7 days ago, it was to arrive 7-10 days after I sent it by airmail so you should have it very soon.
 
Keep me posted.
Best,
 
 
Alex
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Group: pota Message: 4915 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Cool E-mail POTA EXTRA
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:22 AM
Subject: HI GREAT SITE

HI ALEXANDER!  JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL SITE WITH LOTS OF GREAT INFO AND PICTURES AND A GREAT LAY OUT!  I AM AN EXTRA IN THE MOVIE, I FILMED IN TRONA FOR THREE WEEKS AS A HUMAN AND I HAVE NEVER HAD SO MUCH FUN IN MY LIFE!  I MET SOME WONDERFUL PEOPLE ON THE SET AND THEY WERE ALL VERY PROFESSIONAL!  I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHO  PAUL GIAMATTI WAS, BUT I GOT TO HELP HIM OUT BY GETTING HIM A STRAW TO DRINK OUT OF!  NOW I KNOW WHO HE IS AND HE IS MY GOOD FRIEND. 
 
  KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK AND KEEP THE INFO COMING, IF I CAN GIVE YOU ANY INFO WRITE ME BACK AND I CAN SEE IF I CAN HELP YOU OUT IN ANY WAY
 THANKS
 P.O.T.A. EXTRA
 TAMMY
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Group: pota Message: 4916 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/17/2001
Subject: Dark Horizons
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Dark Horizons finally have their POTA page up.
Check it out at:
 
 
Best,
 
Alex
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Group: pota Message: 4917 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/18/2001
Subject: Re: Medicoms
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<< I discussed this with Ken Taylor recently and we are wondering if there is
an English Translation issue here. >>

You know Asians are great at math, but they can't translate for shit!

Gentlemen,
All your base are belong to us!
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Group: pota Message: 4918 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/18/2001
Subject: Oascar Night
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Oscar Night - Double Wami!
Not only is Rick Baker up for an Oscar that night for makeup on The Grinch, but if FOX plays it's cards right there maybe a POTA Spot during the commercials.
If Rick wins it will be another great clip for my web site so I'll be watching for that, but don't quote me on the POTA commercial, God knows I've been burned on that one before. I'm still trying to live down the SuperBowl Screwup :o)
 
Best,
 
Alex
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Group: pota Message: 4919 From: Brian Dumont Date: 3/18/2001
Subject: New Medicoms
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I just returned from a trip up to Portland Oregon, where (while in town) I dropped in on Mr. Katsu Tanaka of Just Be Toys <http://www.justbetoys.com>.  They've got the new Medicoms in (Milo & Cornelius APE-O-Nauts, and Lawgiver) and the prices are resonable: $35.99 & 37.99.

The Lawgiver is very good but is lacking the base that the original has. Simple enough to make one.  The color is also a bit off.  More of an olive drab than a sandstone finish.

Now I just need to find one of those Hot Wheels Escape from New York statues of liberty and my set's complete!

Brian

Michael Whitty wrote:

 Hi BrianInteresting qusestion - now you mention it I must agree my Gorilla has more of a orange/brown jumpsuit, but I believe it is trying to be red.......I wonder why? 

I could not work out what was going on with the variants - mainly because of the unusual choice to nam a "Slave Ape" a "Caesar Land's Ape".  I alsofind it amazing they did not just refer to the Lawgiver as such - rather than "Greatest Ape".  I wonder if the "Statue of Liberty" is "Greatest Human"? :) 
http://
I discussed this with Ken Taylor recently and we are wondering if there is an English Translation issue here.  Anyone in the group know?  I will be asking this question to my friend in Japan.Michael 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Dumont [mailto:afryt4u@...]
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2001 21:57
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Medicoms
Hey, does your Conquest Gorilla have an orange or a red jumpsuit?  Mine is kindof orange/brown.

Brian

Michael Whitty wrote:

Hi All

For those of you who do not want to fumble through eBay to find the new
wave, here are all 3 (unlike Alex, mine are still packaged!).  This shows
the difference in size:

http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/Medicomlastwave.jpg

Also, this is a comparison between the standard Caesar and the limited
edition version. Fairly obvious difference between "Conquest" Caesar in
chains (common) and Limited Edition "Battle" Caesar dressed just like Pa
(all but the missing Glyph...).

http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/caesars.jpg

And finally, this is a comparison between the standard Caesar Land's Ape and
the limited edition version.  The Chimp at left is the common version and
the gorilla at right is the rare one.  Neither has a chain but each has a
different rifle.

http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/landapes.jpg

Hope this clears any confusion.  Hats off to the chaps at Medicom for a
GREAT effort!

Michael

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Group: pota Message: 4920 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/18/2001
Subject: Re: Oascar Night
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In a message dated 3/18/01 4:43:53 AM Central Standard Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< but if FOX plays it's cards right there maybe a POTA Spot during the
commercials. >>

Yes, all FOX has to do to give them a commercial and a huge pile of money!
And if the awards are on FOX they're a shoe in. The cagey bastards.
Sorry couldn't resist. Sarcasm levels rising AAAAAAAARRRRRGGGHHHH!!!
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Group: pota Message: 4921 From: Lynne Miller Date: 3/19/2001
Subject: Re: Poll
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Better late than never...I want mine 85%mind /15% action.  It's the thinking it through thing that gets me the worst.  That's why I can hardly watch Stephen King...he scares me more than 'in your face' gore!!

                                     *Lynne*

>From: LordTZer0@...
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [pota] Poll
>Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:56:42 EST
>
> Just a quick demographic,
>
>How many fans would like the new film to be a thought provoking movie with
>some Ape social strata, i.e., bureaucratic orangutans, war mongering gorillas
>and scientific pacifistic chimps. And how many just want a gorilla wars
>shoot 'em up. Or in this case, chop 'em up. And how many fans, like me
>since I'm starting, would like a nice mix of the two? Just to quantify I
>like mine 85/15 to 75/25% brain-brutality cocktail.
>And let the sexual tensions fall where they may!
>
>
>
>The Bitter T of a General Yen
>Suss that one out if you can!
>Talk about thought provoking!
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Group: pota Message: 4922 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/19/2001
Subject: CD
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It finally arrived Alex and I am thrilled.  You do a great job my friend.
 
Michael

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Group: pota Message: 4923 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/19/2001
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It finally arrived Alex and I am thrilled.  You do a great job my friend.
 
Michael

Cool, thanks for letting me know Mike.
 
Enjoy.
 
Alex
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Group: pota Message: 4924 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/19/2001
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.htmlTV Guide this week has an article "The 50 Greatest Movie Moments of All
Time."  Now of course the ending of 'you-know-what' should rank right up
there, but no it doesn't make the offical list.  Instead it's mentioned, with
the Statue of Liberty final pictured, in a sidebar  "Gotcha!  A Brief History
of Surprising Scenes and Tricky Endings."

Oh well, what can you expect from TV Guide.  At least they now give PLANET
four stars when it's in the listings.

By the way, they rate the beginning of "Saving Private Ryan" as the Number
One movie moment.   Pleeeeeeeease.   I'd rate the ending of "Citizen Kane."   
 PLANET's final in the top ten someplace, maybe top five.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 4925 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 3/19/2001
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Hey Rory, I just got the TV Guide one myself. Pretty damn lame that POTA
didn't get in the top five. And as brilliant as Ryan's opening was, it's not
the "Greatest Moment". At least Maxim named POTA Number 2. Later, John
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Group: pota Message: 4926 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 3/19/2001
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Or not as original as we originally thought?


http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1418018297
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Group: pota Message: 4927 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 3/19/2001
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now that is quite interesting isnt it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Boulle couldnt have been into sci-fi at all could he ??
Or not as original as we originally thought?


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Group: pota Message: 4928 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/19/2001
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.htmlYeah, this old Sci-Fi mag cover is something that Rod Serling probably saw
while he was combing for stories for "Twilight Zone."  It definitely fit POTA
like a glove.

Remember, it was Serling who devised the Statue of Liberty final, not Boulle,
though Boulle said he wished he'd thought of it.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 4929 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 3/19/2001
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ah yes, Serling !        I always forget to give him credit !!
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Group: pota Message: 4930 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/19/2001
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Yeah, this old Sci-Fi mag cover is something that Rod Serling probably saw
while he was combing for stories for "Twilight Zone."  It definitely fit POTA
like a glove.

Remember, it was Serling who devised the Statue of Liberty final, not Boulle,
though Boulle said he wished he'd thought of it.

That's what I though...thanks for clearing things up.
Boulle version was that the Astronaut really did go to a planet of the apes, but when escaping the planet in his own ship he finds himself back on earth greeted by apes.
 
Apes ruling the planet earth.
As to how that equasion ended up that way, I'm not sure.
Anyone out there have an idea?
 
Best,
 
Alex
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Group: pota Message: 4931 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 3/19/2001
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In a message dated 3/19/01 10:27:45 PM, prophecysite@... writes:

<<Remember, it was Serling who devised the Statue of Liberty final, not
Boulle,

though Boulle said he wished he'd thought of it. >>

Really? I seem to recall reading somewhere that Boulle disliked the ending of
the film. Perhaps it was in one of the old Marvel Mags.

Matt
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Group: pota Message: 4932 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 3/19/2001
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Well today I received my first POTA related autograph. It is a shot of Linda
Harrison that I won off of ebay from Time Machine Collectibles. The photo is
Linda as Nova, crouched down in her cage looking a bit scared. It's kind of a
sexy pic, you can almost see something there.

I won another auction today. This one is a pic of Taylor, Nova and Zira and
is autographed by Kim Hunter and Linda Harrison. If it's authentic, I think I
got a decent price on it. Here's a pic:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1416838108&ed=985034041

Time Machine Collectibles has a lot of autographs of POTA related actors on
their web site including Linda Harrison, Natalie Trundy, James Gregory, Booth
Coleman, Ron Harper, Lou Wagner, the guy who played Julius and several of the
actors who played mutants in BENEATH. While these are kind of cool, I'm not
sure if I will be collecting too many of them.

I was wondering how many people here collect POTA autographs? Has anyone been
lucky enough to meet the stars in person? Were they some of the actors
mentioned above? How about the "big guns" like Heston, Kim Hunter and the
late, great Roddy McDowell. Does anyone have autographs from the dearly
departed like Maurice Evans, Mark Lenard, or Pierre Boulle? How do they react
to signing Apes stuff? I'm just curious if anyone has had any intersting
experiences in this area.

Matt
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Group: pota Message: 4933 From: locutusatwolf359@aol.com Date: 3/19/2001
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Hi! I am a big autograph collector. I've been collecting for about 7 years
now and have been writing letters to actors for about 3 years. I have about
500+ autographs. I go to autograph shows at least 3 or 4 times a year. I have
one autograph of Roddy McDowall I purchased off ebay recently. I also have
autographs from Kim Hunter, James Gregory, and Charlton Heston. I wrote to
them and sent Apes pictures and they autographed the pictures and sent them
back to me. I am probably going to order some autographs from Time Machine as
I am sure they are all authentic. If you would like addresses to write and
get autographs from the stars go to www.stararchive.com and they have almost
every actors address and it will tell you how long it takes to get the
autograph. Good luck and happy collecting!

Loc
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Group: pota Message: 4934 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/20/2001
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I think personally Boulle's ending was as good - though it may be a real challenge to translate to the silver screen....
 
Michael
 
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To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?

ah yes, Serling !        I always forget to give him credit !!


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Group: pota Message: 4935 From: locutusatwolf359@aol.com Date: 3/20/2001
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In this week's Entertainment Weekly there is a small blurb about the new film:

A hush also surrounds Tim Burton's July film, Planet of the Apes, with Mark
Wahlberg, which Fox insists is not a remake. (Don't look for a Lady Liberty
cameo.) "We're keeping the ending close to our vests," says producer Richard
Zanuck.

That's it for this weeks!

Loc
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Group: pota Message: 4936 From: Brian Dumont Date: 3/20/2001
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    All of the original surviving POTA performers are very nice about signing photos and autographs.  James Gregory's health is not that great and I had heard that he was no longer signing ape items, but Terry Martin over at Time Machine Collectibles seems to keep getting him to sign stuff.  Good ol' Terry!

    I'd be careful about Roddy McDowall autographs on eBay.  Fakes abound!  There is one seller in particular (from Daly City, California) that repeatedly tries to auction fakes a few times a year.  Either his source is "screwing" him over by selling him the fakes, or he's faking them himself, and faking them poorly.  He had a photo up last year with a fake Roddy signature, and, get this, the photo was of Kim Hunter as Zira!  I think Roddy would've known better than to autograph photos of other performers, especially POTA characters.  And I'm sure he was rolling over in his grave when he saw that this clown was getting $100+ per foto of eBay.  And they were FAKES!!!  Buyer beware!

    We here at Apemania.com also are more than happy to authenticate POTA autographs.  One of our troupe members was a close friend of Mr. McDowall, and Roddy signed many things to him and the rest of the Apemania troupe over the years.

    Jeff Ceterko is a great source for POTA autographs.  I'll have to look up his e-mail address from work tomorrow.  Many of the signatures he has he acquired himself, and he has photos of himself with the stars to prove it.  He's one of the most honest autograph hounds I've ever met.  He's always willing to authenticate signatures, and not just Ape actors.

    POTA WEBGROUP memeber Loc <locutusatwolf359@...> sounds like a good source for authentication as well.

    Anyway!  Again, be careful.  An honest dealer will offer a money back guarantee, no questions asked.  Beware those that have an "all sales final" attitude.

    Good Luck!

    Brian Penikas
    APEMANIA.COM

    MTotsky@... wrote:

    Well today I received my first POTA related autograph. It is a shot of Linda
    Harrison that I won off of ebay from Time Machine Collectibles. The photo is
    Linda as Nova, crouched down in her cage looking a bit scared. It's kind of a
    sexy pic, you can almost see something there.

    I won another auction today. This one is a pic of Taylor, Nova and Zira and
    is autographed by Kim Hunter and Linda Harrison. If it's authentic, I think I
    got a decent price on it. Here's a pic:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1416838108&ed=985034041

    Time Machine Collectibles has a lot of autographs of POTA related actors on
    their web site including Linda Harrison, Natalie Trundy, James Gregory, Booth
    Coleman, Ron Harper, Lou Wagner, the guy who played Julius and several of the
    actors who played mutants in BENEATH. While these are kind of cool, I'm not
    sure if I will be collecting too many of them.

    I was wondering how many people here collect POTA autographs? Has anyone been
    lucky enough to meet the stars in person? Were they some of the actors
    mentioned above? How about the "big guns" like Heston, Kim Hunter and the
    late, great Roddy McDowell. Does anyone have autographs from the dearly
    departed like Maurice Evans, Mark Lenard, or Pierre Boulle? How do they react
    to signing Apes stuff? I'm just curious if anyone has had any intersting
    experiences in this area.

    Matt

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    Group: pota Message: 4937 From: Brian Date: 3/20/2001
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    Some friends of mine just notified me that they've wrapped up their filming in
    Hawaii and are heading home!
    We're all counting the weeks to the premier now!

    B
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    Group: pota Message: 4938 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 3/20/2001
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    .html I'd have to check but I seem to recall reading an interview ( either in Cinifantastique or the Marval POTA mag) w/ Jacobs claiming that He got the idea ( Liberty ending) from a mural in a diner after having lunch w/ Blake (Pink Panther) Edwards who was considering an offer to direct "Planet".
    Can anyone confirm this or is my addled mind failing me again?

    Best,
    KEN
     

    Haristas@... wrote:

    Yeah, this old Sci-Fi mag cover is something that Rod Serling probably saw
    while he was combing for stories for "Twilight Zone."  It definitely fit POTA
    like a glove.

    Remember, it was Serling who devised the Statue of Liberty final, not Boulle,
    though Boulle said he wished he'd thought of it.

    -- Rory

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    Group: pota Message: 4939 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
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    In a message dated 3/19/01 10:00:17 PM Central Standard Time, MTotsky@...
    writes:

    << Really? I seem to recall reading somewhere that Boulle disliked the ending
    of
    the film. Perhaps it was in one of the old Marvel Mags. >>

    Boulle didn't even like his own stuff. He thought it was one of his lesser
    works and didn't think it was cinematic.
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    Group: pota Message: 4940 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
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    << Either his source is "screwing" him over by selling him the fakes, or he's
    faking them himself, and faking them poorly. He had a photo up last year
    with a fake Roddy signature, and, get this, the photo was of Kim Hunter as
    Zira! I think Roddy would've known better than to autograph photos of other
    performers, especially POTA characters. >>

    Yeah, though I have seen a Cornelius signed by Kim Hunter, and I told the
    seller so. Some people just don't know their Apes. I think Kim will sign
    just about anything you send her. Though I did get a photo off of eBay of
    both of them that I would swear was a fake. The guy swore up and down that
    he got the signatures in person. But if anyone knows Kim's signature it's
    me! And if that one was authentic she must have been having a really bad
    day!! Part of it was backwards!!! Buyer Beware!!!!
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    Group: pota Message: 4941 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
    Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
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    That cover reminds me of Karmandi, on of the center pieces in my Apes
    collection.
    It also predates Apes.
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    Group: pota Message: 4942 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 3/20/2001
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    tell us more about karmandi  !!
    not to be confused with Kamandi, the last boy on earth !?!?
     
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    Group: pota Message: 4943 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
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    In a message dated 3/20/01 3:31:50 AM Central Standard Time,
    comicsape@... writes:

    << not to be confused with Kamandi, the last boy on earth !?!? >>

    Sorry it's the Nyquil typing
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    Group: pota Message: 4944 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
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    In a message dated 3/19/01 10:20:29 PM Central Standard Time, MTotsky@...
    writes:

    <<http://cgi.ebay.com/awcgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1416838108&ed=98503404

    1 >>

    I'd say you have a genuine Kim Hunter.
    Though it can be faked, apparently some can't.
    Though I don't know why they bother. If you send it she will sign.
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    Group: pota Message: 4945 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/20/2001
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    Cheap collector's item.
     
    Best,
     
    Alex
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    Group: pota Message: 4946 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/20/2001
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      Deana.
      Very lovely....
       
      Best,
       
      Alex
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      Subject: Fwd: [GAPNews] GAP and Zoos / Captivity
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        Group: pota Message: 4948 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/20/2001
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        And it looks like our Brian won it!
         
        Is this the BROWN cornelius or a bad scan?  The guy auctioning this does not include in the description that it is a variant so he may not even know!
         
        Michael
         
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        Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2001 1:42
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Once in a lifetime

         
        Cheap collector's item.
         
        Best,
         
        Alex


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        Group: pota Message: 4949 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/20/2001
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        And it looks like our Brian won it!
         
        Your welcome Brian. :o)
         
        I was going to get it myself but I'm just collecting the best of the lot.
        10 out of 20,21,22 or what ever the number is by now.
         
        Best,
         
        Alex   
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        Group: pota Message: 4950 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 3/20/2001
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        Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
        >It finally arrived Alex and I am thrilled. You do a great job my friend.


        Talking of which, I got my Conquest/Battle CD the other day. Excellent
        stuff! Conquest was the first time I really got hooked on any of the Apes
        music, it's great to see it on CD finally.

        Alan
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        Group: pota Message: 4951 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
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        Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:
        >Yeah, this old Sci-Fi mag cover is something that Rod Serling probably saw
        >while he was combing for stories for "Twilight Zone." It definitely fit
        POTA
        >like a glove.

        Indeed, but since we're talking about Pierre Boulle anyway, I'd just like to
        bring up the books "Genus Homo" and "Across Time", both of which may have
        inspired Boulle's original novel. Have any of you lot read either of these?

        >Remember, it was Serling who devised the Statue of Liberty final, not
        Boulle,
        >though Boulle said he wished he'd thought of it.


        Yep, and just check out several episodes of The Twilight Zone to see where
        he tested it out first! Not literally the Statue of Liberty, but there were
        plenty of "oh, all along it was..." episodes. Of particular interest is "I
        Shot An Arrow Into The Air". Three astronauts trying to return to Earth
        crash on a hostile desert planet - I won't tell you how it turns out, I
        don't want to spoil the ending... :)

        Alan
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        Group: pota Message: 4952 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
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        Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
        >I think personally Boulle's ending was as good - though it may be a real
        >challenge to translate to the silver screen....


        Do you mean the kind of "framing sequence" (I think that's what you'd call
        it) with Phylis and Jinn? If so, I agree, it would be hard to get that into
        a film without people guessing it straight away. The penultimate twist, as
        previously mentioned in this discussion, was excellent too.

        Alan
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        Group: pota Message: 4953 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
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        <LordTZer0@...> wrote:
        >That cover reminds me of Karmandi, on of the center pieces in my Apes
        >collection.
        >It also predates Apes.


        I love Kamandi too - I picked up a few issues in a sale recently - but it is
        very definitely Ape-inspired, and does not predate Apes. Kamandi #1 is dated
        Oct/Nov 1972.

        Wacky comic indeed, but worth seeking out. Very enjoyable. (If you're one of
        the people who don't like the Marvel mag's PotA stories because they were
        too bizarre, it's probably better that you don't. Kamandi featured all sorts
        of talking animals, not just apes, along with robots, aliens, mutants, etc.)

        Alan
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        Group: pota Message: 4954 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
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        Correction: Boulle hated the Statue of Liberty ending and the whole "It's
        actually Earth" concept (then again, he wasn't particularly proud of his
        "Apes" novel anyway. - - - Jeff Krueger
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
        To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:28 PM
        Subject: Re: [pota] GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?


        > Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:
        > >Yeah, this old Sci-Fi mag cover is something that Rod Serling probably
        saw
        > >while he was combing for stories for "Twilight Zone." It definitely fit
        > POTA
        > >like a glove.
        >
        > Indeed, but since we're talking about Pierre Boulle anyway, I'd just like
        to
        > bring up the books "Genus Homo" and "Across Time", both of which may have
        > inspired Boulle's original novel. Have any of you lot read either of
        these?
        >
        > >Remember, it was Serling who devised the Statue of Liberty final, not
        > Boulle,
        > >though Boulle said he wished he'd thought of it.
        >
        >
        > Yep, and just check out several episodes of The Twilight Zone to see where
        > he tested it out first! Not literally the Statue of Liberty, but there
        were
        > plenty of "oh, all along it was..." episodes. Of particular interest is "I
        > Shot An Arrow Into The Air". Three astronauts trying to return to Earth
        > crash on a hostile desert planet - I won't tell you how it turns out, I
        > don't want to spoil the ending... :)
        >
        > Alan
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 4955 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: Poll
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        T -zero is really Kim Hunter in disguise. I saw it in a website. And you
        like to pretend you're not interested in POTA! Be honest, Miss
        Hunter. - - - Jeff Krueger
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        From: <LordTZer0@...>
        To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 4:23 PM
        Subject: Re: [pota] Poll


        >
        >
        > << What I'd really like is to see is you use your real name. What are you
        > hiding?!!!! >>
        >
        > Why do YOU want to know? But all paranoia aside. The cyber world is
        filled
        > with pit falls. All they need is your real name and a couple of your
        numbers
        > and your credit is ruined. Anonymity is the new frontier. And this is
        old
        > hat for me. I never used my real name in a band. And in the Buckaroo
        Banzai
        > news group I am BBI Laredo. Those of you who may have been punk rockers
        know
        > real names are often dropped early on. And it's a Texas thing as well.
        Even
        > among the Washington press corps, they can't wait to get their
        presidential
        > nickname.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 4956 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: "It's just a theory."
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         There's a comic book (I think it's one of the Adventure titles) that shows Mendez leaving the mutants. If we assume he's a descendant of the "Battle" Mendez, then that would cut off the line and we assume "Beneath" is in an opposite timeline. Since the bomb scenes were not in the released version of "Battle", one could also consider the bomb not part of the official "Battle" canon. It's all how you look at it. - - - Jeff Krueger
         
              P.S. : The Marvel mag chronology has the mutants doing exactly that, schlepping the bomb from the West Coast to the East Coast, over an extended period of time.
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 7:51 PM
        Subject: Re: [pota] "It's just a theory."

        Okay, I think we have something of a debate going on here!

        Could someone please explain to me how CONQUEST and BATTLE take place on the
        West Coast?

        It makes no sense!!  Look, in BATTLE you had the mutants, one of whom was
        named Mendez, and they are the ancestors of the mutants in BENEATH.  The
        mutants in BENEATH lived in what was New York City.  In the uncut version of
        BATTLE they even show the Alpha-Omega Bomb.

        So, if BATTLE is supposed to take place on the West Coast, how do the mutants
        and their bomb end up in New York 2000 years later?  What did they do, schlep
        all the way across the country with a doomsday bomb?!!!!

        Obviously, BATTLE takes place on the East Coast and the city shown destroyed
        was part of a megalopolis that connected to what was once New York City.  I
        can believe the mutants dragging their bomb through the subways to finally
        settle in beneath New York, but I can't believe they'd haul it all the way
        across the country.

        So then, if BATTLE takes place in the east, then it follows that CONQUEST had
        to as well.   It had to!   And don't give me that "it says this or that" in
        the novelization.  Don't we have a hard enough time dealing with the
        screenwriters' inconsistencies without bringing in the novelization writers?

        Okay, so it's settled then, right?   CONQUEST and BATTLE took place in the
        East of the U.S., right?  RIGHT?!!!

        -- Rory



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        Group: pota Message: 4957 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
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        In a message dated 3/20/01 4:43:27 PM Central Standard Time,
        williejoe@... writes:

        << T -zero is really Kim Hunter in disguise. I saw it in a website. And you
        like to pretend you're not interested in POTA! Be honest, Miss
        Hunter. >>

        Don't spread it around. I'm incognito. In mufti as it were.
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        Group: pota Message: 4958 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: T- Zero is Kim Hunter?
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        >T -zero is really Kim Hunter in disguise. I saw it in a website. And you
        >like to pretend you're not interested in POTA!
        Be honest, Miss
        >Hunter.  - - - Jeff Krueger
         
        hehehehehe!!!
        Now I've seen everything, I don't know if that's the truth but to be honest about it I wouldn't doubt if there's more POTA stars on this e-group or POTA related stars and film makers.
         
        Well, I don't know what any of you stars or related film maker feel about the revist by Tim Burton, But I will tell you this with all due respect as an original POTA fan.
         
        RULE THE PLANET BABY...IN 2001.
         
        Best,
         
        Alex
         
         
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        As to whether she may or may not attend the festival in Memphis . . .
        Her husband Bob died nearly a year ago. So it might be a good opportunity
        for her to get out of the apartment. I hope you all wrote letters of
        condolence in a timely manner. A bit late now. Anyway, might do her good to
        meet her fans, so encourage her to do just that! :-)
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        In a message dated 3/20/01 3:56:39 PM Central Standard Time,
        alan@... writes:

        << Do you mean the kind of "framing sequence" (I think that's what you'd call
        it) with Phylis and Jinn? >>

        You could leave their helmets on but that might still give it away. What I,
        and possibly he, thought uncinematic is the way it's written. Even
        translated, it's still very . . . French! Like, for example, when he
        addresses the assembley. That would call for major rewrites, even with one
        of the French actors playing it in French!
        "Listen to me, O Apes!" It just doesn't play.
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        Group: pota Message: 4961 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
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         One could look at it that way. One could look at it as if "Planet" was the only one. One could look at Burton's film as the REAL "Planet of the Apes" and the others as just warm-ups. It's all a matter of taste. - - - Jeff Krueger
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 3:42 PM
        Subject: Re: [pota] "It's just a theory."

        You'll get no argument from me that the TV series took place on the West
        Coast.  The show made that pretty obvious.

        What's a bigger issue with me is should the TV show be considered a
        continuation of the movie series.  I argue that it should NOT!!!!

        Both ape cultures, in the films and in the show, were similar, with the same
        clothing and buildings, yet it is ridiculous to think that these two isolated
        simian cultures, on opposite sides of a continent, would develop in such
        similar fashion.

        I think it's better to think of the TV show as "based" on the film series,
        just as the cartoon show was "based" on the film series.

        In fact, I'll say something even more controversial:  As far as I'm concerned
        the Charlton Heston movie "Planet of the Apes" had only ONE sequel, titled
        "Beneath the Planet of the Apes."  But "Beneath" had three sequels, "Escape,"
        "Conquest" and "Battle."
        First off it was the popularity of "Beneath" at the box office that brought
        about further sequels, and in "Planet" the earth year was 3978, but in all
        the other films it became 3955.

        Okay, so give me an argument on that one.

        -- Rory


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        Group: pota Message: 4962 From: Lynne Miller Date: 3/20/2001
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        Am I still full of the nbsp's??  If so, then I'm going to call Compuserve right away and see what the heck is going on!

                                                *Lynne*

        >From: LordTZer0@...
        >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        >Subject: Re: [pota] Memphis
        >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:56:00 EST
        >
        >In a message dated 3/5/01 9:38:26 PM Central Standard Time,
        >JSe3689836@... writes:
        >
        ><< Lynne, your posts have a whole lot of nbsp's. Anyone else getting these?
        >John >>
        >
        >I get more nbsp? than words. But Terry's are loaded with
        s
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        Group: pota Message: 4963 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
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        I don't think there'd be any problem getting Kim Hunter out of her
        apartment. She seems to be a real go - getter. - - - Jeff K.
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: <LordTZer0@...>
        To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 3:07 PM
        Subject: Re: [pota] Poll


        >
        >
        > As to whether she may or may not attend the festival in Memphis . . .
        > Her husband Bob died nearly a year ago. So it might be a good opportunity
        > for her to get out of the apartment. I hope you all wrote letters of
        > condolence in a timely manner. A bit late now. Anyway, might do her good
        to
        > meet her fans, so encourage her to do just that! :-)
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 4964 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
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        In a message dated 3/20/01 3:48:38 PM Central Standard Time,
        alan@... writes:

        << does not predate Apes. Kamandi #1 is dated Oct/Nov 1972. >>

        Well, by Gobs, now that I look at it, you're right! When I bid on the thing
        I though it was the comic from the 50's! I wouldn't have been so keen to get
        it had I known.
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        In a message dated 3/20/01 3:52:26 PM Central Standard Time,
        alan@... writes:

        << Conquest was the first time I really got hooked on any of the Apes
        music, it's great to see it on CD finally. >>


        A friend of mine got that! He says 1991 Restaurant is his new cheezy theme
        music!
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        Group: pota Message: 4966 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
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          A friend of mine was at the "Apes" production offices and saw a mock up of the Lincoln Memorial. He asked what it was for and they said they couldn't tell, it would spoil the ending. I have a feeling they wouldn't use a return to Earth, it's too obvious. If they're smart they'll send out false leads, maybe film false endings. - - - - Jeff K.
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 6:55 PM
        Subject: [pota] Surprise Ending?

        Corona's Coming Attractions has an item today on a rumor that Fox has a
        casting call going out for extras (men between the ages of 18-35, on the
        large side and having to wear full body costumes) to film a scene with Mark
        Walburg at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington DC on March 13th.

        Could this be the surprise ending for the film?

        I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
        Just another rumor type lie on the web.
         
        As it's been said before, it's not planet earth, not even in a dream scene.
         
        Best,
         
        Alex 
         
         


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        Group: pota Message: 4967 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?
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        .htmlIf they were doing a literal translation of Boulle's book to the screen --
        which I wish they were--, ALL his dialogue would need a rewrite.  I'd hire
        somebody like Gore Vidal to do it -- very witty and acerbic misanthropic
        dialogue.

        I'd also change the star they go to.  A red giant like Betelguese isn't
        likely to have an earth like planet around it.  Also, fast-as-light space
        travel is really a fantasy -- not possible for beings such as us.

        -- Rory  
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        Group: pota Message: 4968 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Arthur!
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          Arthur P. who? Is he an uncle of Tim Burton or something? - - - Jeff K.
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 5:36 AM
        Subject: [pota] Happy Birthday Arthur!

        Today March 7th is Arthur P. Jacobs birthday.

        Gone but not forgotten


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        Group: pota Message: 4969 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: Fwd: [GAPNews] GAP and Zoos / Captivity
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        Though I agree with this in part, I can also see the point of Steve Irwin
        that without zoos to keep these animals in the forefront of the publics minds
        there won't be a push to preserve them. However I acknowledge that Steve
        does work for a zoo, and that Apes are not crocodilians.

        I don't support these scientists who keep apes locked in a room for most of
        their lives and deliberately give them AIDs. To me that is pure evil. And
        to use the excuse that it will save lives . . . you may as well give the same
        dispensation to the Nazis.

        But I feel if it take some ape living in good natural habitats in zoos in
        order to preserve them as a species, so be it. Their quality of life is
        certainly better than the performing apes in circuses and on television.
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        Group: pota Message: 4970 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
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        The sad thing is that they are phasing out letterboxed VHS. For awhile
        they were really starting to put those out. I guess they figure anyone
        interested in movies will buy the DVD. That's not true. I have a DVD player
        but sometimes I prefer the cheaper VHS. Then there are those who are timid
        to try DVD but are still movie fans. - - - Jeff K.
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
        To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 1:51 PM
        Subject: RE: [pota] Burton Blurb on Howard Stern


        > T
        >
        > I originally thought all DVDs would be letterboxed until I discovered that
        > even old classics like "The Maltese Falcon" were originally filmed for TV
        > dimension screens!! What a shame!!!
        >
        > But if it was filmed in wide, the DVD will have that version (and
        sometimes
        > the pan and scan too).
        >
        > If you do not own a DVD player, GET ONE!!!!
        >
        > Michael
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
        > Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2001 13:37
        > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: Re: [pota] Burton Blurb on Howard Stern
        >
        > In a message dated 3/6/01 5:43:13 PM Central Standard Time,
        Haristas@...
        > writes:
        >
        > << Anybody out there still watching it pan&scan? >>
        >
        > I have them in both. But I rarely watch the pan and scans any more. It's
        > too televisiony. For a theater experiance I go for the letter box. I
        can't
        > wait for an affordable TV with the wide screen aspect ratio. Can any of
        you
        > folks with the latest technology tell me, are the DVDs letterboxed?
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 4971 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: "It's just a theory."
        .html
        .htmlI have to say that I don't consider ANYTHING Marvel had to say about the POTA
        chronology to be in anyway "legitimate."   I look to the screenplays only,
        and if they left it vague, well then that's that.  In fact, what was so great
        about the original movie was that it left so much to be wondered about.  How
        did apes evolve so fast, what destroyed the earth so completely.  Hell, what
        happened to the moon!!!!

        But to look for your answers from comic books.  Oh, please don't get me
        started.

        -- Rory Monteith
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        Group: pota Message: 4972 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/20/2001
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        .htmlI think a Lincoln Memorial ending would be great.  So much of what people
        seem to think POTA is all about is a fear of Blacks taking over -- because so
        many view Blacks as closer to apes than all the other races of men -- then
        what more appropriate place to end the new POTA than at the memorial to The
        Great Emancipator!

        It's fucking great!!!!  It makes me laugh just thinking about it!!!

        -- Rory
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        Group: pota Message: 4973 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: Me-Myself-and-I
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        That's YOU?! You look like Roddy McDowell in ape makeup. Who's the smiley guy? - - - Jeff K.
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:37 PM
        Subject: [pota] Me-Myself-and-I

        Okay guys.
        I know what Terry, Brian and Jeff look like so it's only fair that they as well as the rest of you know what I look like.
         
        The photo is being placed on the site as well under e-mail.
        Just try to contain your laughter! :o)
         
        Best,
         
        Alex


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        Group: pota Message: 4974 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Go, Joe!
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          All that stuff Joe went through is now at the Arthur Jacobs archives at Loyola Maramont University in Southern Cal. Fox put a big kabosh on him using "official" Fox photos, so he's scrambling for unofficial ones. Too bad. If his book had come out earlier they wouldn't have cared but now they're very protective of "Apes" ( read: greedy).
         
          An interesting thing about Joe is that he is the Jim Morrison in the Doors tribute band "The Soft Parade". Check him out at their official website. - - - - Jeff Krueger
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 6:11 PM
        Subject: [pota] Somehow...it makes you look less intelligent.

        No, I'm not talking about Alex's picture.  (Just kidding, Alex.)

        Actually, I want to tell everyone a little of a three hour phone conversation
        I had last night with Joe Russo.  He's the guy who has a book coming out this
        June titled "Planet of the Apes Revisited" on the making of the entire series.

        Way back in the mid-seventies when we were kids, Joe and I used to correspond
        about POTA.  (Yes, we were pen-pals!)  I sent him copies of the movie's
        soundtracks I'd taped off the TV (This was before VCRs folks.) and Topps
        bubble gum cards.

        Anyway, we eventually lost touch but Joe pursued his POTA obbsession to the
        extent that he interviewed nearly everyone involved with the films and even
        visited Arthur P. Jacobs house before Natalie Trundy sold it in the
        mid-eighties.  It was cool to hear him tell me about being in Jacob's private
        home theatre and in the vault were Jacobs kept his personal film collection
        (including, Joe told me, a box with the label on it "King Kong outakes"!!!   
        Jacobs loved "King Kong.").  He also read for me some of Jacobs' inter-office
        memos during the making of each film, along with the shooting schedules.  
        This is all stuff he photo-copied while visiting Natalie Trundy.  Most of it
        is fascinating, especially about what certain people thought should be
        altered or cut in each film.  How much of this will make it into the book I
        don't know.

        The best part was when he played for me some of the tape recordings he has
        from all the interviews he's conducted with everyone from Mort Abrahams and
        Ted Post to Charlton Heston and Roddy McDowall.  An especially cool one was
        James Gregory telling about being made up as Ursus in the scene with the ape
        army in the desert watching the mutants' illusions, and Gregory looking over
        to see Maurice Evans falling off his horse.

        I told Joe he has to get these interviews transfered to CD soon -- they're
        like having a DVD commentary track.  After his book comes out I think I might
        try to talk him into selling copies of these things.

        Anyway, I think this will be THE book to buy when it comes out.  If you want
        to ask Joe Russo anything about his book, or think you might have something
        to contribute (while there's time) he can be reached at the e-mail address:  
        strangedesire@...

        -- Rory


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        Group: pota Message: 4975 From: Lynne Miller Date: 3/20/2001
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        Woo Hoo Alex!!!  And I absolutely love the family pic in th background!!<G>

                          *Lynne*
                                


         

        >From: "Alexander Ruiz"
        >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        >To:
        >Subject: [pota] Me-Myself-and-I
        >Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:37:37 -0500
        >
        >Okay guys.
        >I know what Terry, Brian and Jeff look like so it's only fair that they as well as the rest of you know what I look like.
        >
        >The photo is being placed on the site as well under e-mail.
        >Just try to contain your laughter! :o)
        >
        >Best,
        >
        >Alex
        ><< me-myself-and-i.JPG >>
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        Group: pota Message: 4976 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: Maxim Magazine Greatest Movie Moments
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        A recent mag, I think it was "Sci -Fi Universe" had the 50 greatest sci - fi
        moments ever. They ranked the scene where Taylor is in the net, but not the
        Statue of Liberty. I guess they didn't want to repeat movies.

        Smoothness is all . . .

        - - - - Jeff K.
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: <MTotsky@...>
        To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 6:28 PM
        Subject: [pota] Maxim Magazine Greatest Movie Moments


        > I was flipping through the latest issue of Maxim Magazine (it's kind of
        like
        > a sexed-up GQ) at the drugstore tonight and they had an article about the
        100
        > greatest movie moments. I was pleased to find out that they ranked the
        Statue
        > of Liberty reveal in POTA all the way at #2. (#1 was a tie between some
        John
        > Wayne moment and Phoebe Cates revealing her boobs in Fast Times at
        Ridgemont
        > High). There was also a cool photo of the Liberty scene.
        >
        > Also, the latest issue of Vanity Fair has some shots from the Burton POTA
        > flick. They look pretty good.
        >
        > Matt
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 4977 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: Planet of the Medallions
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        I think the Marvel mags say in one of their TV show articles. - - - Jeff
        K.
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
        To: "Apes List" <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 5:13 AM
        Subject: [pota] Planet of the Medallions


        > I happened to see the video for "Stayin' Alive" by the Bee Gees again
        > today - is it my imaginiation, or was this filmed in the same place as
        parts
        > of the PotA TV series? There is a ruined train station (complete with
        ruined
        > train) that looks very much like the one briefly seen in The Legacy.
        >
        > And while I'm on the subject, does anyone know where "The Trap" and "The
        > Legacy" were filmed?
        >
        > Alan
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 4978 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: THE REAL SPOILER ALERT!
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        A U.S. space station (genetic monkey zoo) encounters a time rip in space. They send out a monkey to encounter the time rip. Monkey gets lost in the time rip. Leo Davidson goes after him, he also gets lost in the time rip only to find himself on a planet dominated by apes.
         
        In the end he finds that the U.S. space station (Half buried ship in the desert) goes looking for him after he is reported missing, and thus crash lands on the planet centuries before him. So Leo of course finds himself on a planet of the apes that is NOT earth. And while Leo's ship is destoyed on his arrival, the monkey who first got lost in the time rip ends up arriving at the very end of the film.
        And so Leo uses his ship to return home while the monkey remains with his own kind and the humans living as equals with apes on the real planet of the apes.
         
        Happy ending Bla Bla Bla (Sucks)
         
        END OF SCRIPT....
         
        Secret Ending....
        Leo returns to earth to find the earth dominated by apes, with a famous earth memorial baring the image of the monkey's face who first got lost in the time rip and returned to the real planet of the apes.
         
        Now how this monkey effected earth is the real MYSTERY!!!
        And that I'm affraid no one will know until the film is finally released....
         
        And thus, because of this, a sequal is born!
        Planet of the Apes on EARTH!
        KICK ASS!
         
        Best,
         
        Alex
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        Group: pota Message: 4979 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
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        In a message dated 3/20/01 5:55:49 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@...
        writes:

        << I think a Lincoln Memorial ending would be great. >>

        Seems like a sucky ending to me.
        Just trading out one mounument for another.
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        Group: pota Message: 4980 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: DVD
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        In a message dated 3/20/01 5:51:11 PM Central Standard Time,
        williejoe@... writes:

        << That's not true. I have a DVD player
        but sometimes I prefer the cheaper VHS. >>

        Why for? I myself have shunned the digital formats. But you have a DVD?
        Why would you rather watch tape? I do have a CD player now on a jam box.
        But when I record I go for my 16 track analog. I'll get a DVD eventually.
        But I wouldn't but just a dedicated player. You have to but everything you
        play in it. When they're recordable I'll get one, but until then maybe I'll
        buy a PS2 and play them on that.
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        Group: pota Message: 4981 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: Memphis
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        Here's your e-mail back at ya! Just a thought thought...If it's just a case
        of those of us with out dated e-mail, then all this HTML code will be
        translated when I send it back. Hmmmm... Tricky. When I had 6.0 most
        e-mail were bold and in color. I don't remember if there were a lot of
        <DIV>s and nbsp's then. I need a new computer! By the time I get one
        everone will be on 7.0!


        In a message dated 3/20/01 5:25:27 PM Central Standard Time,
        cosmicraye@... writes:

        << <DIV>

        Am I still full of the nbsp's?? If so, then I'm going to call Compuserve
        right away and see what the heck is going on!

        *Lynne*

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        <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>In a message dated 3/5/01 9:38:26 PM Central
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        <DIV></DIV>><< Lynne, your posts have a whole lot of nbsp's. Anyone else
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        Group: pota Message: 4982 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
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        In a message dated 3/20/01 5:30:27 PM Central Standard Time,
        williejoe@... writes:

        << She seems to be a real go - getter. >>

        Ain't it the truth!
        But you'd have to be to go under the make-up all those times.
        Ape Power!
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        Group: pota Message: 4983 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/20/2001
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        In a message dated 3/20/01 5:38:06 PM Central Standard Time,
        williejoe@... writes:

        << A friend of mine was at the "Apes" production offices and saw a mock up
        of the Lincoln Memorial. >>

        I wouldn't think they'd do that...just sounds like a Logans Run rip off.
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        In a message dated 3/20/01 5:39:53 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@...
        writes:

        << Also, fast-as-light space
        travel is really a fantasy -- not possible for beings such as us. >>

        Though the sailing on the solar wind theory has gotten some validation in
        recent years.
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        << One could look at it that way. One could look at it as if "Planet" was the
        only one. One could look at Burton's film as the REAL "Planet of the Apes"
        and the others as just warm-ups. It's all a matter of taste. - - - Jeff
        Krueger >>


        I don't know about that, but you maybe on to something. Perhaps not though.
        After all the versions of Hitchhikers Guide I found the pacing on the
        television show a bit rushed when compared to the tape dramatization. I
        understand they're limited by time and budget constraints. It'll be
        interesting to see what they do with that movie. It'll be hard to accept
        someone other than Mark Wing-Davies as Zaphod.
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        Group: pota Message: 4986 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Why, Alex, Why?!!!
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        .htmlAlex,

        I thought you weren't going to tell the ending of the movie.  I didn't
        finishing reading your posting, but I can pretty much figure it out.

        I guess unless we were all to be turned back into kids it's going to be
        damned impossible not to know how the movie ends before we see it.

        -- Rory
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        Group: pota Message: 4987 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: Why, Alex, Why?!!!
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        Alex,

        I thought you weren't going to tell the ending of the movie.  I didn't
        finishing reading your posting, but I can pretty much figure it out.

        I guess unless we were all to be turned back into kids it's going to be
        damned impossible not to know how the movie ends before we see it.

        -- Rory
         
        I marked it very CLEAR Rory.
        THE REAL SPOILER ALERT
         
        Why?
        Too many people talking shit about Tim and his remake.
        Now they know how FUCKIN good it is.
         
        nothing personal...
         
        Alex
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        Group: pota Message: 4988 From: Brian Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: Once in a lifetime
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        .html Yeah, Thanx Gang.  I think?

        B

        PS: Have you got your Lawgiver and Ape-O-nauts yet?  They are VERY VERY COOL.

        Alexander Ruiz wrote:

        And it looks like our Brian won it!Your welcome Brian. :o) I was going to get it myself but I'm just collecting the best of the lot.10 out of 20,21,22 or what ever the number is by now. Best, Alex



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        Group: pota Message: 4989 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 3/20/2001
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        Group: pota Message: 4990 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
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        I also have a CD player but usually I buy audio tapes. They're about $10
        cheaper. Same with video. If I love a movie I'll get the DVD for the extras
        and the multiple watches, but I wouldn't mind a copy of, say ... OK, how
        about this one... I'd like a letterbox copy of "Edward Scissorhands" because
        Burton is directing "Apes". VHS is going for about $15 now for new
        releases. But if I want it letterboxed I have to pay $10 more for the DVD.
        OK, bad example, I can just rent the DVD for $2. But if I want it to just
        throw in whenever, I can have far more of those on VHS. But letterbox on VHS
        is drying up. They assume the general public are barbarians who don't want
        letterbox. You have better chance of getting letterbox on cable TV. And
        speaking of letterbox, the price of postage is just outrageous! - - - -
        Consumer Expert
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: <LordTZer0@...>
        To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 6:03 PM
        Subject: Re: [pota] DVD


        > In a message dated 3/20/01 5:51:11 PM Central Standard Time,
        > williejoe@... writes:
        >
        > << That's not true. I have a DVD player
        > but sometimes I prefer the cheaper VHS. >>
        >
        > Why for? I myself have shunned the digital formats. But you have a DVD?
        > Why would you rather watch tape? I do have a CD player now on a jam box.
        > But when I record I go for my 16 track analog. I'll get a DVD eventually.
        > But I wouldn't but just a dedicated player. You have to but everything
        you
        > play in it. When they're recordable I'll get one, but until then maybe
        I'll
        > buy a PS2 and play them on that.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 4991 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
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          I already called Tim. The police are on their way, Alex.
         
          OK, here's the deal. A friend of mine whose in tight with one of the "Apes" producers told me principal photography is done but they have an EXTENSIVE 2nd Unit shoot to do, which will last into April. Basically they had to split into two units to film it all. Alot of this stuff deals with the principal actors. It's conceivable with all the internet activity that they come up with a new ending and film it at the last minute. I also hear bad weather hurt their Arizona shoot and they're going to film alot of desert stuff here in California (Vasquez Rocks, anyone?).
         
         Because of the upcoming strikes, actors are doubling up on work; Wahlberg has a remake of "Charade" (a Natalie Trundy favorite, the original) and Duncan has "Scorpion King". Everyone's running every which way so the did the important stuff first but filming ain't over yet. - - - Jeff Krueger
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 7:00 PM
        Subject: [pota] Re: Why, Alex, Why?!!!

        Alex,

        I thought you weren't going to tell the ending of the movie.  I didn't
        finishing reading your posting, but I can pretty much figure it out.

        I guess unless we were all to be turned back into kids it's going to be
        damned impossible not to know how the movie ends before we see it.

        -- Rory
         
        I marked it very CLEAR Rory.
        THE REAL SPOILER ALERT
         
        Why?
        Too many people talking shit about Tim and his remake.
        Now they know how FUCKIN good it is.
         
        nothing personal...
         
        Alex


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        Group: pota Message: 4992 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
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          Alex - -
         
          Where'd you get that? That looks like Scott Essman at the Chambers party.
         
                                                  - - - - - Jeff K.
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:44 PM
        Subject: [pota] Exclusive Medicom Law Giver!!

        Here it is guys!
        The Large Medicom LAW GIVER!
         
        DAMN THIS THING REALLY IS BIG!!!
         
        Best,
         
        Alex


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        Group: pota Message: 4993 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Kim Hunter in Memphis
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        'Been meaning to post this for a while...

        While it would be terrific if Kim Hunter is at the Nashville show, my
        guess, is that there's probably an even money chance, that she won't be
        able to make it.

        Scuttlebutt in New York is that as much as she may want to do shows,
        ultimately--for whatever reasons, she has to cancel out (which has
        happened, on at least one occasion).

        Last year, I was acting in a play, at the annual Old-Time Radio
        Festival. I came back, to the event, Saturday--primarily!--to be
        introduced to Ms. Hunter.

        But she had cancelled out...

        None of this means, of course, that Kim Hunter is anything but a
        terrific person. (There've been many nice posts here, already, about
        how cooperative she has been, answering fan mail, and the like.)

        But large get-togethers aren't, intriguingly, every actor's cup of tea.

        Of course--hopefully!--she will be there...

        Best, Jim Burns
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        Group: pota Message: 4994 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
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          It was brought to my attention an article in the Orange County Register (an Orange County, California paper) for 3/11/01 that rated recent movie trailers. Namely, "Apes" (rated A-), Spielberg's "A.I." (rated C), "Pluto Nash", an Eddie Murphy space comedy (B-) and "Harry Potter" (C). Yes, "Apes" got by far the best grade. It also had 4 images from the trailer . It said, in part, ..." glimpses of good things to come...Wahlberg, master of the "How did I get myself into this mess?" look, seems a good fit..." Also lauded the improved apes and costumes. The reviews are promising so far.  - - - - Jeff K.
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 2:29 PM
        Subject: [pota] POTA in TV Guide

        TV Guide this week has an article "The 50 Greatest Movie Moments of All
        Time."  Now of course the ending of 'you-know-what' should rank right up
        there, but no it doesn't make the offical list.  Instead it's mentioned, with
        the Statue of Liberty final pictured, in a sidebar  "Gotcha!  A Brief History
        of Surprising Scenes and Tricky Endings."

        Oh well, what can you expect from TV Guide.  At least they now give PLANET
        four stars when it's in the listings.

        By the way, they rate the beginning of "Saving Private Ryan" as the Number
        One movie moment.   Pleeeeeeeease.   I'd rate the ending of "Citizen Kane."   
         PLANET's final in the top ten someplace, maybe top five.

        -- Rory


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        Group: pota Message: 4995 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: POTA Autographs
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        Pierre Boulle, now that would be a cool one to get! Anybody have
        one? - - - - - - Jeff K.
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: <MTotsky@...>
        To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 8:17 PM
        Subject: [pota] POTA Autographs


        > Well today I received my first POTA related autograph. It is a shot of
        Linda
        > Harrison that I won off of ebay from Time Machine Collectibles. The photo
        is
        > Linda as Nova, crouched down in her cage looking a bit scared. It's kind
        of a
        > sexy pic, you can almost see something there.
        >
        > I won another auction today. This one is a pic of Taylor, Nova and Zira
        and
        > is autographed by Kim Hunter and Linda Harrison. If it's authentic, I
        think I
        > got a decent price on it. Here's a pic:
        >
        >
        http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1416838108&ed=9850340
        41
        >
        > Time Machine Collectibles has a lot of autographs of POTA related actors
        on
        > their web site including Linda Harrison, Natalie Trundy, James Gregory,
        Booth
        > Coleman, Ron Harper, Lou Wagner, the guy who played Julius and several of
        the
        > actors who played mutants in BENEATH. While these are kind of cool, I'm
        not
        > sure if I will be collecting too many of them.
        >
        > I was wondering how many people here collect POTA autographs? Has anyone
        been
        > lucky enough to meet the stars in person? Were they some of the actors
        > mentioned above? How about the "big guns" like Heston, Kim Hunter and the
        > late, great Roddy McDowell. Does anyone have autographs from the dearly
        > departed like Maurice Evans, Mark Lenard, or Pierre Boulle? How do they
        react
        > to signing Apes stuff? I'm just curious if anyone has had any intersting
        > experiences in this area.
        >
        > Matt
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 4996 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: Exclusive Medicom Law Giver!!
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          Where'd you get that? That looks like Scott Essman at the Chambers party.
         
        Is it really him?
        How cool, I didn't know...I have Scotts and Brians video on my site.
        Sort of selling it for Scott and I've spoken with him before but I never knew what he looked like. Cool.
         
        The photo came off of Brian's site, just a prank on the Lawgiver Size.
         
        As for Tim, just make sure they put me away behind bars after the film release. :o)
         
        Best,
         
        Alex
         
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        Group: pota Message: 4997 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
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          Jacobs was a successful publicist, for himself as well as others. He took credit for the Statue but it's been authenticated by Eric Greene and others that it was Serling's idea. He also took credit for findig the novel but Natalie Trundy says that's hogwash, she found  it. And she said so on stage at the "Apes" 30th party with pretty much everybody from the films in attendance. But credit Jacobs as the single person most responsible that "Apes" is more than just an obscure French novel from the writer of "Bridge Over the River Kwai'". - - - Jeff K.
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:26 AM
        Subject: Re: [pota] GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?

        I'd have to check but I seem to recall reading an interview ( either in Cinifantastique or the Marval POTA mag) w/ Jacobs claiming that He got the idea ( Liberty ending) from a mural in a diner after having lunch w/ Blake (Pink Panther) Edwards who was considering an offer to direct "Planet".
        Can anyone confirm this or is my addled mind failing me again?

        Best,
        KEN
         

        Haristas@... wrote:

        Yeah, this old Sci-Fi mag cover is something that Rod Serling probably saw
        while he was combing for stories for "Twilight Zone."  It definitely fit POTA
        like a glove.

        Remember, it was Serling who devised the Statue of Liberty final, not Boulle,
        though Boulle said he wished he'd thought of it.

        -- Rory

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        Group: pota Message: 4998 From: Brian Date: 3/20/2001
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        .html Hi Jeff,

        I thought it was Alex's  girlfriend at first , but then I realized it was actually our webmaster, Ray, over here at theAPEMANIA studio, posing in front of a statue that was built for a client in Japan.  Ray's not related to Scott, at least that's what the two of them claim.

        Brian

        Jack Krueger wrote:

           Alex - -   Where'd you get that? That looks like Scott Essman at the Chambers party.                                           - - - - - Jeff K.
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:44 PM
        Subject: [pota] Exclusive Medicom Law Giver!!
         Here it is guys!The Large Medicom LAW GIVER! DAMN THIS THING REALLY IS BIG!!! Best, Alex

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        Group: pota Message: 4999 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: Kim Hunter at Apes' 30th
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        At the 30th Anniversary, Kim almost RAN out after the screening (with her
        late husband). Since she lives on the other coast I went up to her first
        and had her sign my beloved "Apes" book (yes, she signs through the mail but
        I wasn't going to send her that book). Even Eric Greene was envious because
        he missed out. Long live Kim Hunter!
        - - - - Jeff K.
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: <jameshburns@...>
        To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 7:42 PM
        Subject: [pota] Kim Hunter in Memphis


        >
        > 'Been meaning to post this for a while...
        >
        > While it would be terrific if Kim Hunter is at the Nashville show, my
        > guess, is that there's probably an even money chance, that she won't be
        > able to make it.
        >
        > Scuttlebutt in New York is that as much as she may want to do shows,
        > ultimately--for whatever reasons, she has to cancel out (which has
        > happened, on at least one occasion).
        >
        > Last year, I was acting in a play, at the annual Old-Time Radio
        > Festival. I came back, to the event, Saturday--primarily!--to be
        > introduced to Ms. Hunter.
        >
        > But she had cancelled out...
        >
        > None of this means, of course, that Kim Hunter is anything but a
        > terrific person. (There've been many nice posts here, already, about
        > how cooperative she has been, answering fan mail, and the like.)
        >
        > But large get-togethers aren't, intriguingly, every actor's cup of tea.
        >
        > Of course--hopefully!--she will be there...
        >
        > Best, Jim Burns
        >
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        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 5000 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
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          Ok, but doesn't it look like Scott? I think Alex would like Scott's legs better, don't you? - - - J.K.
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Brian
        Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 8:18 PM
        Subject: Re: [pota] Exclusive Medicom Law Giver!!

        Hi Jeff,

        I thought it was Alex's  girlfriend at first , but then I realized it was actually our webmaster, Ray, over here at theAPEMANIA studio, posing in front of a statue that was built for a client in Japan.  Ray's not related to Scott, at least that's what the two of them claim.

        Brian

        Jack Krueger wrote:

           Alex - -   Where'd you get that? That looks like Scott Essman at the Chambers party.                                           - - - - - Jeff K.
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:44 PM
        Subject: [pota] Exclusive Medicom Law Giver!!
         Here it is guys!The Large Medicom LAW GIVER! DAMN THIS THING REALLY IS BIG!!! Best, Alex

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        Group: pota Message: 5001 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 3/20/2001
        Subject: Re: Trailer rating
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        In a message dated 3/20/01 11:01:51 PM, williejoe@... writes:

        <<It was brought to my attention an article in the Orange County Register (an
        Orange County, California paper) for 3/11/01 that rated recent movie
        trailers. Namely, "Apes" (rated A-), Spielberg's "A.I." (rated C), "Pluto
        Nash", an Eddie Murphy space comedy (B-) and "Harry Potter" (C).>>

        I was very impressed with the Harry Potter trailer. I am a fan of the books
        and have been nervous about this flick ever since I learned that Chris
        Columbus was going to do it. I am not a big Columbus fan and was worried he
        would "Macauley" up this wonderful story. I like the look of the trailer. The
        characters look dead on. Hopefully the kids can act. Hopefully Columbus can
        direct. It shouldn't be forgotten that this will be a kids, picture....and
        that's fine. That is who the books are intended for. As long as it stays
        close to the source material and doesn't rely on slapstick and other corny
        Hollywood tricks, it should be fine. I am excited about it.

        Not as excited as I am about POTA, but still excited nonetheless.

        Matt
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        Group: pota Message: 5002 From: Jack Krueger Date: 3/20/2001
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        It should be noted that the author of the article hasn't read any "Harry
        Potter" books.
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: <MTotsky@...>
        To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 8:52 PM
        Subject: Re: [pota] Trailer rating


        >
        > In a message dated 3/20/01 11:01:51 PM, williejoe@... writes:
        >
        > <<It was brought to my attention an article in the Orange County Register
        (an
        > Orange County, California paper) for 3/11/01 that rated recent movie
        > trailers. Namely, "Apes" (rated A-), Spielberg's "A.I." (rated C), "Pluto
        > Nash", an Eddie Murphy space comedy (B-) and "Harry Potter" (C).>>
        >
        > I was very impressed with the Harry Potter trailer. I am a fan of the
        books
        > and have been nervous about this flick ever since I learned that Chris
        > Columbus was going to do it. I am not a big Columbus fan and was worried
        he
        > would "Macauley" up this wonderful story. I like the look of the trailer.
        The
        > characters look dead on. Hopefully the kids can act. Hopefully Columbus
        can
        > direct. It shouldn't be forgotten that this will be a kids, picture....and
        > that's fine. That is who the books are intended for. As long as it stays
        > close to the source material and doesn't rely on slapstick and other corny
        > Hollywood tricks, it should be fine. I am excited about it.
        >
        > Not as excited as I am about POTA, but still excited nonetheless.
        >
        > Matt
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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