Thanks,
I've got some pics of the Addars which I'll post in the next day or so. They really don't do them justice but will at least give you some
idea.
Best,
KEN

Shelby Rhodes wrote:

> Ken,
>
> I'd love to see some pics of your finished kits. They sound great!
>
> I went to a Frightvision Con the other weekend and they had a couple of nice
> resin kits. Dr. Milo in astronaut outfit as a bust, and they also had an
> awesome gorilla soldier astride a horse with his rifle held up over his
> head. I think that one was supposed to look like the gorilla at the
> beginning credits of the television series. He was holding his rifle just
> like that. Cool as heck, and I'm kicking myself now for not having gotten
> it!
>
> > A while back there was some posts ( or it may have been on Terry Hoknes'
> > site) about some really nicely detailed Resin kits of the Astro-apes and
> > Caesar from "Conquest". Anyone got or seen these?
> > Best,
> > KEN
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

I kinda like the new novel cover, it's better than the previous version w/ the generic film canister.
Don't ya think?

Jack Krueger wrote:

> Well, he is an "author". "Kwai" is more respected than "Apes" as a work of
> literature. But that cover photo is awful! I hope it's just a mockup. And
> who gets Boulle's royalties? - - - Jeff

.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 12:15:05 AM Central Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

Name me one movie in history that isn't in it for the $$$$$$

And I'll agree with you.


OK,one movie not made for $$$$$:those crappy college student films.<.html

<< DAMN! No penetration?!?

So what is it - oral sex?

Michael >>

Didn't Clinton prove in a court of law that oral isn't sex?

.html Well, unlike last issue, which seemed it would never come, I got the May/June
issue of Cinescape today.  It's got Angelina Jolie on the cover looking like
she's just sucked a lemon.

Anyway, there's a Summer Movie Preview run down, so of course the new POTA is
mentioned.  In fact it's given an entire page -- in which absolutely nothing
of substance is said! -- but it does have a photo from the film that I
haven't seen before, and this cartoon of an orang like from the original film
in a bumper car against Jackie Chan in another car.   Oh yes, there's also a
picture of Thade across from the table of contents page, but you only see him
from behind, and he looks like he's in need of an enema or something.

But what I liked in this issue is, as usual, Mark A. Altman's The Last Word.  
In a piece titled "Who Let The Dogs Out?  This summer is full of buzzed-about
flicks.  But will they be any good?,"  the former editor of Sci-Fi Universe
writes about PLANET OF THE APES:

"You remade it, you maniacs!  With the original classic, Franklin Schaffner
brought a restrained sense of realism to a potentially outlandish premise.  
My fear with Tim Burton, whose style veers toward the outrageous, is that the
original's brooding fatalism will be lost in a kiddie-friendly concoction of
CGI and over-the-top production design.  But that won't stop throngs of
fanboys from seeing it time and time again."

He predicts it'll gross $180 million.

-- Rory



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.html In a message dated 4/19/01 10:13:35 PM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

"this "new movie" of theirs"? Cougar, they're making it for YOU! And for
me, and for Rory. How ungrateful!

I can't agree,sorry.They are making it for the bottom line:$$$$$$$$.Not
because they really feel they have a story to tell or because they think they
can do something new and creative,but for money.Thats all they see in it.

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.html In a message dated 4/20/01 12:15:05 AM Central Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

Name me one movie in history that isn't in it for the $$$$$$

And I'll agree with you.


OK,one movie not made for $$$$$:those crappy college student films.

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Oh, I am going to ask how to unsubscribe if I find out the humans in this
new film smoke cigars.......

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Friday, 20 April 2001 16:16
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Blow me down, Olives!

<< DAMN! No penetration?!?

So what is it - oral sex?

Michael >>

Didn't Clinton prove in a court of law that oral isn't sex?

.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 2:07:04 AM Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

Yeah, Porky's is art...you got me.

Michael


Hey Mr Whitty,

Just an FYI for you,I meant the films made by college students for their
classes.

I really don't care that you do,but let me ask you something,why do you have
it in for me anyway?Is it because I told you that I dealt with the eBay
dealer that allegedely said you didn't know what you are talking about,and
that I had a good transaction with him?Or is it because I don't care what you
and Alex (or the rest)say about me and my views on the movie?It sure seems
that if anyone else said what I said,you'd be ok with it,but because its me
then you damn me to hell.Just tell me why.Not via private email either.I want
you to post it here so everyone can see it.Of course since most of the group
says nothing I'm sure your backers will be right behind you,and I'll be left
alone.But you know what,I don't care.I sure as hell don't need or want your
approval.I just want to know why you are singling me out.<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 12:19:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Have you seen the book "Franklin J. Schaffner" by Erwin Kim?

As Pierre Boulle once said, "Oui"        I'd forgotten about that.  I have
the POTA chapter photocopied.   Perhaps I should share some of it with the
group?

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 12:10:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

PS: Fox had alot of opportunities to make this earlier but they waited until
this script. That says to me they aren't just making a money grab, though
obviously that's a prime motivation.

Jeff,

"Alot" is two words, it's  " a lot "    That Harry guy at Ain't-it-cool makes
the same mistake all the time.

-- Rory the stickler

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.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 12:29:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Hey, anyone know what happened to Brian? He hasn't checked in lately. I hope
he's not sick.

he he he he he!                              - - - - Jeff


Sometimes, I wonder if Brian was "littleguyBrian"

-- Rory the Paranoid

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.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 1:55:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
pjn1209@... writes:

> Please don't discuss the climax before August 8 when they release
it here!!!

Considering this group's track record for self control, I don't think
I'm out of line by saying you guys across the pond should really
unsubsribe before July 27.  I would never try to ruin someone else's
viewing experience, but there's almost 100 people on this list.
Someone will mess it up for you. Bet you a dollar.

When the new film comes out here, and we "Americans" start posting all our
reviews and such, why don't we just put **SPOILER** warnings in all the
subject lines?   You Brits and Aussies -- or should that be Aussies and
Brits?  -- just beware!

-- Rory

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.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 3:56:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mlccougar@... writes:

I really don't care that you do,but let me ask you something,why do you have
it in for me anyway?Is it because I told you that I dealt with the eBay
dealer that allegedely said you didn't know what you are talking about,and
that I had a good transaction with him?Or is it because I don't care what
you
and Alex (or the rest)say about me and my views on the movie?It sure seems
that if anyone else said what I said,you'd be ok with it,but because its me
then you damn me to hell.Just tell me why.Not via private email either.I
want
you to post it here so everyone can see it.Of course since most of the
group
says nothing I'm sure your backers will be right behind you,and I'll be
left
alone.But you know what,I don't care.I sure as hell don't need or want your
approval.I just want to know why you are singling me out.

Okay, Mlccougar, I can see I've created a Frankenstein with you.  You're back
in the box.  You are to shut up and not say another word for the next three
months.

(Now let's all of us see if he takes this seriously, the paranoid little git.)

-- Rory, Boss of the POTA e-group

<.html

.html

>From: "Steve Hodson"

>Subject: [pota] Nearly new member

>Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:32:27 +0100

>

>Hi

>

>I'm not new to the list, I've been a lurker for well over a year but I've

>just subscribed a second time using my work e-mail, so i thought i'd

>introduce myself.

>

>My names Steve i'm 31 years old, married with a 15 month old son named

>Louis.

>I live in and am from the UK.

>

>I'm not quite into POTA as deeply as some of you chaps obviously are, but

>i've liked it since i was a nipper. I've never seen any of the pota films at

>the cinema though i wish i could off, well Planet and Beneath anyway. The

>last three i've always thought seemed like made for TV movies.

>

>It was interesting watching the TV series on Channel Four in the mid

>nineties. I kinda remembered bits of it from when it was on TV originally.

>It didn't seem as good as i remembered ,but then again i'm a too cynical 31

>year old and not a kid . The stories struck me as being on the same level of

>something like the 'A' Team. I have them all on tape ,perhaps i'll watch

>them again someday, maybe with my little boy when he's a bit older.

>

>I'll go to see the new film although i think they should have left well

>alone and perhaps made something original instead of endless Hollywood

>remakes of old films and TV series.

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In a message dated 4/20/01 12:56:25 AM, williejoe@... writes:

<< Where did you get your prices for your article? Is Soldier Ape B really
the that coveted? - - - - - - Jeff >>

I just am going by the prices that show up on eBay. The Soldier Ape B is
always high. The lowest I have seen it go there in recent months is around
$80 (I have checked in the last few weeks since I completed my set). Felix
from FantasiaToyz lists it at $120. Before I found mine for $40.95, I asked
him if he would sell me one for $80 seeing how I bought all of my other
figures from him (except the Chimp Land Ape and Caesar) and he said no dice.

Matt

.html In a message dated 4/20/01 2:07:04 AM Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

Yeah, Porky's is art...you got me.

Michael


Hey Mr Whitty,

Just an FYI for you,I meant the films made by college students for their
classes.

I really don't care that you do,but let me ask you something,why do you have
it in for me anyway?Is it because I told you that I dealt with the eBay
dealer that allegedely said you didn't know what you are talking about,and
that I had a good transaction with him?Or is it because I don't care what you
and Alex (or the rest)say about me and my views on the movie?It sure seems
that if anyone else said what I said,you'd be ok with it,but because its me
then you damn me to hell.Just tell me why.Not via private email either.I want
you to post it here so everyone can see it.Of course since most of the group
says nothing I'm sure your backers will be right behind you,and I'll be left
alone.But you know what,I don't care.I sure as hell don't need or want your
approval.I just want to know why you are singling me out.

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> You Brits and Aussies -- or should that be Aussies and
> Brits? -- just beware!

Yes, by all means, let's not even attempt courtesy. You foreigners
just watch out and stay out of our way . . .

The prosecution rests.

Hi Guys (and Girls),

New Brit member on board! glad to have realised I'm not the only POTA
nut around here, having been crazy about those apes since I was 6
years old (thats how old I was when the tv series aired in the UK).
Looking forward to trading comments/jokes/insults etc.

Dan

OK, but if you guys can't agree not to warn us Aussies of spoilers then I'm
gonna read Al's script and start wrecking thing for you guys right now!!!!

Righto Alex, send me that script!!!

Hmmm...interesting...IT SUX!!!! MLCCOUGAR WAS RIGHT......YOU HAD TO GO AND
BLOW IT ALL UP. DAMN YOU.....DAMN YOU BURTON TO HELL

OK......now spoil away. The remake sux so it doesn't matter anyway.

He he he he (giggling like a little schoolgirl seeing her first picture of a
penis).

Bow you heads indeed...so you can tie my fucking shoe laces.......

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil [pjn1209@...]
Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2001 0:35
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Release Date

> You Brits and Aussies -- or should that be Aussies and
> Brits? -- just beware!

Yes, by all means, let's not even attempt courtesy. You foreigners
just watch out and stay out of our way . . .

The prosecution rests.

Are you looking forward to the Ashes tour?

Please don't mention the Indian test matches......

Michael (from AUSTRALIA)

-----Original Message-----
From: daniel225nma@... [daniel225nma@...]
Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2001 1:07
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] New Kid On The Block

Hi Guys (and Girls),

New Brit member on board! glad to have realised I'm not the only POTA
nut around here, having been crazy about those apes since I was 6
years old (thats how old I was when the tv series aired in the UK).
Looking forward to trading comments/jokes/insults etc.

Dan

Welcome aboard.

By the subject line in your email, I thought Mark Wahlberg's brother had
joined the group to see what we were saying about him.

Matt

--- In pota@y..., MTotsky@a... wrote:

> Welcome aboard.
>
> By the subject line in your email, I thought Mark Wahlberg's

brother had

> joined the group to see what we were saying about him.
>
> Matt

Geeez whatever happened to that guy ! I think his name was Donnie,
maybe Mark has got him a bit part !

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:34 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] NEW POTA TRAILER

In a message dated 4/20/01 12:10:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

PS: Fox had alot of opportunities to make this earlier but they waited until
this script. That says to me they aren't just making a money grab, though
obviously that's a prime motivation.

Jeff,

"Alot" is two words, it's  " a lot "    That Harry guy at Ain't-it-cool makes
the same mistake all the time.

-- Rory the stickler



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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:44 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Release Date

In a message dated 4/20/01 1:55:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
pjn1209@... writes:

> Please don't discuss the climax before August 8 when they release
it here!!!

Considering this group's track record for self control, I don't think
I'm out of line by saying you guys across the pond should really
unsubsribe before July 27.  I would never try to ruin someone else's
viewing experience, but there's almost 100 people on this list.
Someone will mess it up for you. Bet you a dollar.

When the new film comes out here, and we "Americans" start posting all our
reviews and such, why don't we just put **SPOILER** warnings in all the
subject lines?   You Brits and Aussies -- or should that be Aussies and
Brits?  -- just beware!

-- Rory



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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 6:27 AM

Subject: [pota] Ari

Come on, Alex , you read the script. What's her story? Is it believable or is she like "Edward Scissorhands"- - - just there.

 

                                                         - - - - - Phineas P. Perplexed

 

I'd retther no say..

People here want to see the movie first and I have said enough about it.

In respect to those who have ask me to keep my mouth shut until July 27th. :o)

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Damn! I took mine out of the package and lost his club. The only one I
opened. - - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Medicoms Reviewed


>
> In a message dated 4/20/01 12:56:25 AM, williejoe@... writes:
>
> << Where did you get your prices for your article? Is Soldier Ape B
really
> the that coveted? - - - - - - Jeff >>
>
> I just am going by the prices that show up on eBay. The Soldier Ape B is
> always high. The lowest I have seen it go there in recent months is around
> $80 (I have checked in the last few weeks since I completed my set). Felix
> from FantasiaToyz lists it at $120. Before I found mine for $40.95, I
asked
> him if he would sell me one for $80 seeing how I bought all of my other
> figures from him (except the Chimp Land Ape and Caesar) and he said no
dice.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:31 AM

Subject: RE: [pota] Ari

Thanks Alex!

 

Hey, no reason you can't send a private reply to Freddy!

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz [mailto:prophecysite@...]
Sent: Friday, 20 April 2001 23:28
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Ari

Come on, Alex , you read the script. What's her story? Is it believable or is she like "Edward Scissorhands"- - - just there.

 

                                                         - - - - - Phineas P. Perplexed

 

I'd retther no say..

People here want to see the movie first and I have said enough about it.

In respect to those who have ask me to keep my mouth shut until July 27th. :o)

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Ah, this group brings back memories of junior high school.

Here's the quote Linda Harrison gave me this morning for "Ape Chronicles"
about her opinion of the new movie:

"The timing is just right with the right creative team beginning with
Zanuck. Another important factor is that Zanuck and Burton were very
comfortable together. The energy on the set was that we were doing something
very important. Everybody was giving their best. We all felt honored. In
many respects it felt like the first one only more so...bigger, better!!
It's what real movie making is all about...provacative, entertaining,
mystical and brilliant!"

See Cougar? Alex was right. It is going to be great. And she's
- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 8:06 AM
Subject: [pota] This is war - Allies vs USA - aw shit, the US won by
screening the remake first!!!!!


> OK, but if you guys can't agree not to warn us Aussies of spoilers then
I'm
> gonna read Al's script and start wrecking thing for you guys right now!!!!
>
> Righto Alex, send me that script!!!
>
> Hmmm...interesting...IT SUX!!!! MLCCOUGAR WAS RIGHT......YOU HAD TO GO
AND
> BLOW IT ALL UP. DAMN YOU.....DAMN YOU BURTON TO HELL
>
> OK......now spoil away. The remake sux so it doesn't matter anyway.
>
> He he he he (giggling like a little schoolgirl seeing her first picture of
a
> penis).
>
> Bow you heads indeed...so you can tie my fucking shoe laces.......
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil [pjn1209@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2001 0:35
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Release Date
>
> > You Brits and Aussies -- or should that be Aussies and
> > Brits? -- just beware!
>
> Yes, by all means, let's not even attempt courtesy. You foreigners
> just watch out and stay out of our way . . .
>
> The prosecution rests.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I don't know why I know this but Donnie Wahlberg is in a cable thing about
World War II (I think about D-Day, it has some connection to "Private Ryan")
that's being produced by Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks. For HBO, I think.

- - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <daniel225nma@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] New Kid On The Block


> --- In pota@y..., MTotsky@a... wrote:
> > Welcome aboard.
> >
> > By the subject line in your email, I thought Mark Wahlberg's
> brother had
> > joined the group to see what we were saying about him.
> >
> > Matt
>
>
> Geeez whatever happened to that guy ! I think his name was Donnie,
> maybe Mark has got him a bit part !
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Damn! Sometimes the last word in my e-mails drop off. What could cause that?

What I meant to say is: "she's unbiased". . .

By the way , Linda told me the ending. I'll give you a hint in one word:

- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:40 AM
Subject: [pota] Nova scoped


> Ah, this group brings back memories of junior high school.
>
> Here's the quote Linda Harrison gave me this morning for "Ape Chronicles"
> about her opinion of the new movie:
>
> "The timing is just right with the right creative team beginning with
> Zanuck. Another important factor is that Zanuck and Burton were very
> comfortable together. The energy on the set was that we were doing
something
> very important. Everybody was giving their best. We all felt honored. In
> many respects it felt like the first one only more so...bigger, better!!
> It's what real movie making is all about...provacative, entertaining,
> mystical and brilliant!"
>
> See Cougar? Alex was right. It is going to be great. And she's
> - - - - Jeff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 8:06 AM
> Subject: [pota] This is war - Allies vs USA - aw shit, the US won by
> screening the remake first!!!!!
>
>
> > OK, but if you guys can't agree not to warn us Aussies of spoilers then
> I'm
> > gonna read Al's script and start wrecking thing for you guys right
now!!!!
> >
> > Righto Alex, send me that script!!!
> >
> > Hmmm...interesting...IT SUX!!!! MLCCOUGAR WAS RIGHT......YOU HAD TO GO
> AND
> > BLOW IT ALL UP. DAMN YOU.....DAMN YOU BURTON TO HELL
> >
> > OK......now spoil away. The remake sux so it doesn't matter anyway.
> >
> > He he he he (giggling like a little schoolgirl seeing her first picture
of
> a
> > penis).
> >
> > Bow you heads indeed...so you can tie my fucking shoe laces.......
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Phil [pjn1209@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2001 0:35
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [pota] Re: Release Date
> >
> > > You Brits and Aussies -- or should that be Aussies and
> > > Brits? -- just beware!
> >
> > Yes, by all means, let's not even attempt courtesy. You foreigners
> > just watch out and stay out of our way . . .
> >
> > The prosecution rests.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In pota@y..., daniel225nma@h... wrote:

>
> Geeez whatever happened to that guy ! I think his name was Donnie,
> maybe Mark has got him a bit part !

He shot Bruce Willis in the first five minutes of The Sixth Sense.

.htmlHey Everybody,

I just got a call back from Fox Consumer.  I was at work of course and so
only a messege was left on my machine, but a Jane (as in "Me Tarzan, you
Jane") there says that PLANET OF THE APES will be out on DVD August 21st.

Now that's all she said, so I called back to find out if she's talking about
the TV show, or a special edition of the original, or what?

If you want to give her a call and ask her yourself, it's Jane at Fox
Consumer at 1-888-223-2369.

I'm expecting a call back from her -- she was out when I returned her call.

-- Rory

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.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 9:38:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

I'd retther no say..
People here want to see the movie first and I have said enough about it.
In respect to those who have ask me to keep my mouth shut until July 27th.
:o)

Best,

Alex

Thank you, Alex.  "Be clever, be quiet."

-- Rory

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.htmlWell, I just talked to Jane again at Fox Home Entertainment.  All she can say
is that PLANET OF THE APES will be out on DVD August 21st.  That plus boxed
set.

It sounds to me like we're either getting a re-release of what Fox already
has out on DVD, or a remastered version for anamorphic TV's.  But I don't
think the TV show.  

Just keep calling.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 11:56 AM

Subject: [pota] Jane confused.

Well, I just talked to Jane again at Fox Home Entertainment.  All she can say
is that PLANET OF THE APES will be out on DVD August 21st.  That plus boxed
set.

It sounds to me like we're either getting a re-release of what Fox already
has out on DVD, or a remastered version for anamorphic TV's.  But I don't
think the TV show.  

Just keep calling.

-- Rory



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.htmlDear Rory,
Just talked to Jane at Fox Consumer and she said planet series will happen at
the end of  the year maybe Nov. She didnt speciefy dvd or video but I would
imagine both formats. It looks like we twisted their arms, the higher ups got
the message from fans Call Jane and verify what she tells you.
                                                      Thank-You
                                                    Bryan H.
PS does anyone know about topps new movie trading cards set coming this
summer to ask topps the street date for new ape movie cards. Will come with
ape binder
Does anyone have an extra ape binder from inkworks ape card set last year?
I have the card set binder sold out.<.html

In a message dated 4/20/01 3:18:22 PM, williejoe@... writes:

<< Medicom: Does the Lawgiver have loose parts? I want to open it but not if
there's loose parts to loose. It looks like it's 2 pieces. >>

Yes. There is the table with the scrolls on it and another set of scrolls to
be placed at his feet (three pieces in all). Check my review for a closer
look (although Rory blasted me for placing the Lawgiver's hand on the wrong
scroll and improperly displaying the one at his feet).

Matt

<< "The timing is just right with the right creative team beginning with
Zanuck. Another important factor is that Zanuck and Burton were very
comfortable together. The energy on the set was that we were doing something
very important. Everybody was giving their best. We all felt honored. In
many respects it felt like the first one only more so...bigger, better!!
It's what real movie making is all about...provacative, entertaining,
mystical and brilliant!" >>

If it's so bloody important why didn't they spend the money and shoot the
movie as it was written? Why bring in two more writers to change it and chop
it to bits.
"Proactive and paradigm . . . Aren't these just buzzwords stupid people use
to make themselves look intelligent?" ~~~~The Simpsons~~~~

<< Ah ha! So she doesn't make sense even to you. I think that aspect of the
movie can be the best part if it's handled right. If it's not, it could
destroy it. >>

I have to agree with you on that point. Otherwise, as Chuckles says . . .
It's just more adventures with the monkeys. Just throw in a couple of
Gibbons and Spider Monkeys in place of Ewoks and you've got Gorilla Wars!

.htmlI just heard from jane at fox she said her email was saying nov ,for series
will be on dvd a four disc set.and five vhs tapes 100 min each.In sets only.
all 14 episodes!                     
                                           sounds like we did it thanks to
everyone who wrote and called           bryan<.html

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----- Original Message -----

From: Kay53531@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:32 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] HEADS UP!!! Something's Coming from Fox!!

Dear Rory,
Just talked to Jane at Fox Consumer and she said planet series will happen at
the end of  the year maybe Nov. She didnt speciefy dvd or video but I would
imagine both formats. It looks like we twisted their arms, the higher ups got
the message from fans Call Jane and verify what she tells you.
                                                      Thank-You
                                                    Bryan H.
PS does anyone know about topps new movie trading cards set coming this
summer to ask topps the street date for new ape movie cards. Will come with
ape binder
Does anyone have an extra ape binder from inkworks ape card set last year?
I have the card set binder sold out.

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Thanks, Matt. If I open it I will probably use a photo for reference and
glue the loose parts. I lost the club for Soldier Ape B and I don't want to
do that again!

Fun Fact: Natalie Trundy sold the actual Lawgiver statue used in the movies
for $15,000 in 1998.

- - - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] E.W. out; Medicom question


>
> In a message dated 4/20/01 3:18:22 PM, williejoe@... writes:
>
> << Medicom: Does the Lawgiver have loose parts? I want to open it but not
if
> there's loose parts to loose. It looks like it's 2 pieces. >>
>
> Yes. There is the table with the scrolls on it and another set of scrolls
to
> be placed at his feet (three pieces in all). Check my review for a closer
> look (although Rory blasted me for placing the Lawgiver's hand on the
wrong
> scroll and improperly displaying the one at his feet).
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

<MTotsky@...> wrote:

>The latest issue of Tomarts Action Figure Digest (#86, with Simpsons on the
>cover) has a page of some of the new toys from Hasbro. There's a solid
>plastic Leo Davidson in the 6 1/2 inch scale (good Wahlberg likeness
>actually), Deluxe Thade on Battle Steed, and an Attar (looks like a 12 inch
>doll). There are also a few misc. items like a corkscrew, pencil holder,
>paper weight..

You can also find details of all the above in the latest issue of Previews.
I haven't seen the above mentioned magazine, but Previews certainly has
quite a few pictures of the toys and comics.

Also, the issue of Dark Horse Extra (#34, April 2001) with the PotA comics
poster is out. I gave in and bought it, despite it being from the new movie!
Argh! Alex's enthusiasm must be contagious. Well, that and the fact that
it's only 25 cents.

Just catching up with a lot of email, so apologies for the barrage. But hey,
at least you get the personal touch, because not one of these messages is
automated!

Alan

Matt <MTotsky@...> wrote:

>From time to time I've seen the works of several creative individuals who
>have taken a turn at creating their own POTA action figures. There is a guy
>who runs an site called Ape Joe. I believe Phil's work can be found on the
>Mego Musuem and others have improved the Hasbro 12 inch figures from a few
>years ago. Has anyone taken a shot at custom Medicoms?

I'd have thought people were too afraid to take them out the packaging to
actually try customising them!

Alan

<MTotsky@...> wrote:

>Personally, I wouldn't want another series with the same set of characters.

I

>think it would be cool if it were more like an anthology, with different
>story-arcs that lasted 2 or 3 episodes. They could introduce different
>characters in different parts of the planet, maybe even different eras in
>history. There could be guest stars galore. Bring in the top writers and
>directors to work on each arc. I think it could work.
>
>Any thoughts?

My only thought is that this show would bomb. Anthologies can be good,
especially with a high calibre of cast and crew (you're talking to a big TZ
fan here) but I can't see people tuning in to an anthology show based only
on one concept. It'd be like the Twilight Zone only making episodes about
flying saucers.

If a new Ape series were to come out, it would have to have a regular set of
characters, but I can't see it happening. What I would bet my money on
however, is an animated spin-off series from the new movie, with even more
merchandising. In fact, they're probably thinking about it right now.

Alan

Dave Ballard <dballard@...> wrote:

>You may have noticed that Amazon are currently listing dozens of soon
>to be published, mostly un-official POTA books... Well don't hold
>your breath. Fox have just slapped a ban on any un-authorised
>publication using copyrighted pictures (Isn't this what happened to
>POTA Revisited?)

I wonder what it would take for an un-authorised book to become authorised?
At the very least "Legend of the Planet of the Apes" looks like it has the
potential to be the best PotA book yet, it would be a shame to bugger it up
just because Fox doesn't want to officially endorse it.

Alan

Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:

>I think we can count on all the Medicoms becoming rare. I don't know about
>the rest of you, but I opened all mine up (I only got eleven of the
>nineteen.)

Only eleven?!?!?!?!?

I've got a measly four!

God damn all eleven of you to hell.

Alan

Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:

>Well, I thought so. If you'd told me it was true I think I'd have died of
>envy, though I couldn't have written the book he did. He put a lot of
>research into it, and deserves all the praise, but if I'd tried writing

such

>a thing I'd have stopped every other sentence and thought, "How's gonna buy
>this crap?"

I find it fascinating in the most part, but like most other readers I found
that in some places he was really reading far too much into it. Reminds me
of a spoof piece that I wrote, claiming that "Manic Miner" was a startling
political allegory concerning communism and the nuclear threat.

Alan

Mez Downes <mdownes@...> wrote:

>Someone refresh my memory -- are we told anywhere that the ship is
>travelling at lightspeed?

Doesn't Taylor imply something along those lines at the start of the film
when he mentions Hasslein's theory? Or was it close to lightspeed? I can't
remember now! Argh!

Alan

John <JSe3689836@...> wrote:

> I guess Schaffner & Co. weren't too concerned with getting the science
>of space flight right. It was just a way to get the ANSA astros to POTA.

But

>it looks cinematic so they went with it. As for the windows, they had to

have

>them or they'd lose those crazy lights. Is that what stars look like when
>your travelling close to the speed of light?

I've no idea, but I love that sequence! I doubt it was particularly
expensive, but it works really well with Jerry Goldsmith's music.

And as for the spaceship - I've said it before and I'll say it again, there
is one major design flaw in the way the ship is built... no ashtray!
Honestly, if you're going to let your astronauts smoke on board, at least
give them somewhere to extinguish it.

Alan

Alexander Ruiz <prophecysite@...> wrote:

>Well, if this movie is a big hit believe me there's
>going to be a lot of people renting the original flicks.
>Same as Titanic, people couldn't get enough of it so a
>whole slume of Titanic videos and docs were released on video.

And then a couple of years later are found filling up the bargain bins!

Save your pennies for a couple of years folks - then head down to your local
bargain basements and spend away! Apefest!

Alan

Alexander Ruiz <prophecysite@...> wrote:

>>Yeah well this isn't a sequel or remake.Its a joke.
>
>Correction, come July 27th...you will be the joke.

Okay, so...

Mendez and the Lawgiver walk into a pub and a gorilla says to them...


Alan

Where is Fox coming from? All these books will do is help them promote their
franchise. As far as I know Fox isn't planning an "Official" book about the
originals. Unauthorized books that look bad because there's no pictures will
reflect badly on the series to the general consumer and maybe they'll buy
less DVDs and "classic" items Fox wants to sell. These books will still come
out.

- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Books


> Dave Ballard <dballard@...> wrote:
> >You may have noticed that Amazon are currently listing dozens of soon
> >to be published, mostly un-official POTA books... Well don't hold
> >your breath. Fox have just slapped a ban on any un-authorised
> >publication using copyrighted pictures (Isn't this what happened to
> >POTA Revisited?)
>
> I wonder what it would take for an un-authorised book to become
authorised?
> At the very least "Legend of the Planet of the Apes" looks like it has the
> potential to be the best PotA book yet, it would be a shame to bugger it
up
> just because Fox doesn't want to officially endorse it.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:44 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Release Date

In a message dated 4/20/01 1:55:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
pjn1209@... writes:

> Please don't discuss the climax before August 8 when they release
it here!!!

Considering this group's track record for self control, I don't think
I'm out of line by saying you guys across the pond should really
unsubsribe before July 27.  I would never try to ruin someone else's
viewing experience, but there's almost 100 people on this list.
Someone will mess it up for you. Bet you a dollar.

When the new film comes out here, and we "Americans" start posting all our
reviews and such, why don't we just put **SPOILER** warnings in all the
subject lines?   You Brits and Aussies -- or should that be Aussies and
Brits?  -- just beware!

-- Rory



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<< Fun Fact: Natalie Trundy sold the actual Lawgiver statue used in the movies
for $15,000 in 1998. >>

Who ponied up the dough for that?
Was it a Planet Hollywood or did it go to a collector?

In a message dated 4/20/01 4:33:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
alan@... writes:

<< I've got a measly four! >>

Hey Alan, I only got three.
Well, four if you count the one a gave as a birthday present.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:31 AM

Subject: RE: [pota] Ari

Thanks Alex!

 

Hey, no reason you can't send a private reply to Freddy!

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz [mailto:prophecysite@...]
Sent: Friday, 20 April 2001 23:28
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Ari

Come on, Alex , you read the script. What's her story? Is it believable or is she like "Edward Scissorhands"- - - just there.

 

                                                         - - - - - Phineas P. Perplexed

 

I'd retther no say..

People here want to see the movie first and I have said enough about it.

In respect to those who have ask me to keep my mouth shut until July 27th. :o)

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Damn you, stop name dropping!!!

You know it SUX!!!

Russell Crowe says it sux (he probably just wanted a part shagging an
ape!!!).

He he he he he he.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2001 2:41
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Nova scoped

Ah, this group brings back memories of junior high school.

Here's the quote Linda Harrison gave me this morning for "Ape Chronicles"
about her opinion of the new movie:

"The timing is just right with the right creative team beginning with
Zanuck. Another important factor is that Zanuck and Burton were very
comfortable together. The energy on the set was that we were doing something
very important. Everybody was giving their best. We all felt honored. In
many respects it felt like the first one only more so...bigger, better!!
It's what real movie making is all about...provacative, entertaining,
mystical and brilliant!"

See Cougar? Alex was right. It is going to be great. And she's
- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 8:06 AM
Subject: [pota] This is war - Allies vs USA - aw shit, the US won by
screening the remake first!!!!!


> OK, but if you guys can't agree not to warn us Aussies of spoilers then
I'm
> gonna read Al's script and start wrecking thing for you guys right now!!!!
>
> Righto Alex, send me that script!!!
>
> Hmmm...interesting...IT SUX!!!! MLCCOUGAR WAS RIGHT......YOU HAD TO GO
AND
> BLOW IT ALL UP. DAMN YOU.....DAMN YOU BURTON TO HELL
>
> OK......now spoil away. The remake sux so it doesn't matter anyway.
>
> He he he he (giggling like a little schoolgirl seeing her first picture of
a
> penis).
>
> Bow you heads indeed...so you can tie my fucking shoe laces.......
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil [pjn1209@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2001 0:35
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Release Date
>
> > You Brits and Aussies -- or should that be Aussies and
> > Brits? -- just beware!
>
> Yes, by all means, let's not even attempt courtesy. You foreigners
> just watch out and stay out of our way . . .
>
> The prosecution rests.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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-- Rory<.html

It went to a private collector but out of privacy I won't say who. All I
know is that was a steal! The copy Arthur made for "Apes" fan Sammy Davis
Jr. went for more, and this was the real deal. - - - -
Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] E.W. out; Medicom question


>
> << Fun Fact: Natalie Trundy sold the actual Lawgiver statue used in the
movies
> for $15,000 in 1998. >>
>
> Who ponied up the dough for that?
> Was it a Planet Hollywood or did it go to a collector?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I've got 6 and opened the one that's going for $80!
- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Great Medicom Deal!


> In a message dated 4/20/01 4:33:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
> alan@... writes:
>
> << I've got a measly four! >>
>
> Hey Alan, I only got three.
> Well, four if you count the one a gave as a birthday present.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 4:32:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:

<< Medicom: Does the Lawgiver have loose parts? I want to open it but not if
there's loose parts to loose. It looks like it's 2 pieces. >>

Yes. There is the table with the scrolls on it and another set of scrolls
to
be placed at his feet (three pieces in all). Check my review for a closer
look (although Rory blasted me for placing the Lawgiver's hand on the wrong
scroll and improperly displaying the one at his feet).

Matt

                    "The Proper Study of Apes is Apes"

                                         ~~Haristas~~


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It all depends on what the definition of "isn't" is. John

.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 5:25:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Topps is OK but I wish Inkworks had the license since they did such a good
job with the "Archives" (Set #2 is probably out of the question now). By
the way, Inkworks went to that Arthur Jacobs archives I mentioned for their
rare photos. Eric Greene did a ton of research there for his book.

                                                         - - - - Jeff


Topps did the original film and the TV series.   They're part of my childhood
and Topps with me.

                                                         --- El Roaro

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.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 5:28:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Fun Fact: Natalie Trundy sold the actual Lawgiver statue used in the movies
for $15,000 in 1998.

                                                            - - - - - Jeff

I don't think there's anything 'fun' about that fact, Jeffery.  I'd like to
know it was still in Arthur's backyard, but then I guess she sold his house
years ago, too.  Too bad.

-- Rory<.html

I tried calling Fox a few times today and left my name and number but so far
they haven't called back. If I don't hear from them Monday I'll call again.

Loc

.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 6:23:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

But where does it end? How soon after Aug. 9 can we discuss it openly. There
may be some countries getting it even later, and some people who won't or
can't see it right away. And what about Cougar, who won't see it until it
turns up on ABC in 2003. We don't want to spoil it for him.

                                                 - - - - - Jeff


How hard will it be to put "SPOILERS" on the subject lines of our postings?   
I just think we RUDE Yanks should show some consideration to our fellow
English-speaking allies.   When I wrote you Aussies and Brits beware, I meant
beware of the typical "F**k You" attitude of US Yanks when it comes to things
like this.

Well, we'll see how it goes at the end of July.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:18 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] E.W. out; Medicom question

In a message dated 4/20/01 5:28:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Fun Fact: Natalie Trundy sold the actual Lawgiver statue used in the movies
for $15,000 in 1998.

                                                            - - - - - Jeff

I don't think there's anything 'fun' about that fact, Jeffery.  I'd like to
know it was still in Arthur's backyard, but then I guess she sold his house
years ago, too.  Too bad.

-- Rory

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--- In pota@y..., Kay53531@a... wrote:

> I just heard from jane at fox she said her email was saying
> nov ,for series will be on dvd a four disc set.and five vhs tapes
> 100 min each.In sets only. all 14 episodes!
> sounds like we did it thanks to everyone who wrote and
> called bryan

Bryan, if this pans out you may just have made my year!! (Short a
windfall from the National Lottery or Millwall Holdings, that is.)
Now all we need is a DVD player....

Thank you!! /Mez

.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 6:51:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Where is Fox coming from? All these books will do is help them promote their
franchise. As far as I know Fox isn't planning an "Official" book about the
originals. Unauthorized books that look bad because there's no pictures will
reflect badly on the series to the general consumer and maybe they'll buy
less DVDs and "classic" items Fox wants to sell. These books will still come
out.

                                                     - - - - Jeff

It's very simple what Fox is up to, I think.  They want most people to
consider the new POTA the one and only POTA.

---  Rory<.html

.htmlHey Everybody!!!!

Entertainment Tonight just started here in the east (7 PM) and they're going
to show the new trailer.

I've got to go throw a tape into the VCR.

As Alex says .....  YAAAAAA WOOOOO WAAAAAA!!!!

or something like that.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:01 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Books

In a message dated 4/20/01 6:51:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Where is Fox coming from? All these books will do is help them promote their
franchise. As far as I know Fox isn't planning an "Official" book about the
originals. Unauthorized books that look bad because there's no pictures will
reflect badly on the series to the general consumer and maybe they'll buy
less DVDs and "classic" items Fox wants to sell. These books will still come
out.

                                                     - - - - Jeff

It's very simple what Fox is up to, I think.  They want most people to
consider the new POTA the one and only POTA.

---  Rory

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.html Yeah, I believe Fox's strategy would be to keep the focus on the new movie and it's merchandise first, and THEN exploit the "classic" products ( most likely when the new movie hits home vid and DVD.). With regard to unofficial books, Fox take the same stance as unofficial merchandise. Why should Fox miss out on potential revenue from a property they own? Like I've said before, it IS a business. I'm sure the proposed books will be good ( God, the "POTA Revisited" one better be after the 15 plus years build up!) but the publishers were probably too cheap to pay the liscencing bill to use official photos.
Well, that's my theory anyhow.
Best,
KEN

Haristas@... wrote:

In a message dated 4/20/01 6:51:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:
 

Where is Fox coming from? All these books will do is help them promote their
franchise. As far as I know Fox isn't planning an "Official" book about the
originals. Unauthorized books that look bad because there's no pictures will
reflect badly on the series to the general consumer and maybe they'll buy
less DVDs and "classic" items Fox wants to sell. These books will still come
out.

                                                     - - - - Jeff

 

It's very simple what Fox is up to, I think.  They want most people to
consider the new POTA the one and only POTA.

---  Rory

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.htmlWell, the footage went by so fast you could hardly get a good look at
anything.  However, I will say that the makeups look fantastic.  You get a
really good look at the orangs and they are wonderful.  Tim Roth's Thade
looks fantastic, too.  But I think Ari looks kind of cartoonish and will be
the one element we original fans will find hardest to take.

The action looks good.  There's a great shot of the ape army facing the human
army.  Lots of leaping apes, of course.

Sorry, if I'm not making much sense, but it all went by very fast.
Generally, I'd say I liked what I saw and am now looking forward to this film
more -- and you know I'm a tough sell for this film (though I'm no Mlccougar).

E.T. made sure to say that Mark Wahlberg wasn't even born when the original
came out.  Yeah, don't remind me.

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.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 7:07:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Then why are they bothering to release yet another DVD? It better have
something new, everybody just bought them.

                                                                  - - - -
- Jeff


Yeah, you've got a point there.  I think if this August 21st re-release of
the films on DVD is for real, you can expect an anamorphic picture transfer
and maybe some more extras.  We'll just have to wait and see.

-- Rory

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--- In pota@y..., "Phil " <pjn1209@e...> wrote:

> > You Brits and Aussies -- or should that be Aussies and
> > Brits? -- just beware!
>
> Yes, by all means, let's not even attempt courtesy. You foreigners
> just watch out and stay out of our way . . .

HEY! Those free 'Screw the World' lessons GW's been handing out are
working, huh?

Seriously, I don't mind reading spoilers. As long as they're subject-
lined as such it should be left to the individual to avoid them.
We're all responsible adults, right? RIGHT?

/Mez, Yank in ol' Blighty

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.htmlWith the news that Fox is going to be re-releasing APES on DVD, I want to
bring up again how bad I think it was that Fox decided to spoil the
conclusion of the original by putting the Statue of Liberty on the cover.

I hate the 30th Anniversary PLANET cover so much that as soon as the DVD came
out last August, I had a new cover all ready.  Here's the DVD cover for
PLANET I had done for me on a computer using the original posters.  I sent
one to Jeff Krueger.  I do believe he liked it very much.  It fits the DVD
case perfectly.

I'm sending it as an attachment, so sorry to any of you this might
inconvenience.

-- Rory


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----- Original Message -----

From: Ken & Heather Taylor

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:10 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Books

Yeah, I believe Fox's strategy would be to keep the focus on the new movie and it's merchandise first, and THEN exploit the "classic" products ( most likely when the new movie hits home vid and DVD.). With regard to unofficial books, Fox take the same stance as unofficial merchandise. Why should Fox miss out on potential revenue from a property they own? Like I've said before, it IS a business. I'm sure the proposed books will be good ( God, the "POTA Revisited" one better be after the 15 plus years build up!) but the publishers were probably too cheap to pay the liscencing bill to use official photos.
Well, that's my theory anyhow.
Best,
KEN

Haristas@... wrote:

In a message dated 4/20/01 6:51:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:
 

Where is Fox coming from? All these books will do is help them promote their
franchise. As far as I know Fox isn't planning an "Official" book about the
originals. Unauthorized books that look bad because there's no pictures will
reflect badly on the series to the general consumer and maybe they'll buy
less DVDs and "classic" items Fox wants to sell. These books will still come
out.

                                                     - - - - Jeff

 

It's very simple what Fox is up to, I think.  They want most people to
consider the new POTA the one and only POTA.

---  Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:18 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Books

In a message dated 4/20/01 7:07:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Then why are they bothering to release yet another DVD? It better have
something new, everybody just bought them.

                                                                  - - - -
- Jeff

Yeah, you've got a point there.  I think if this August 21st re-release of
the films on DVD is for real, you can expect an anamorphic picture transfer
and maybe some more extras.  We'll just have to wait and see.

-- Rory



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.htmlFor some reason certain e-mails I send take longer than others to be posted.  
Also, I've been getting some people's replies to e-mails before the actual
e-mail arrives.

Did anyone get my comments on the trailer that I saw on ET tonight?

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:28 PM

Subject: [pota] The Proper DVD cover

With the news that Fox is going to be re-releasing APES on DVD, I want to
bring up again how bad I think it was that Fox decided to spoil the
conclusion of the original by putting the Statue of Liberty on the cover.

I hate the 30th Anniversary PLANET cover so much that as soon as the DVD came
out last August, I had a new cover all ready.  Here's the DVD cover for
PLANET I had done for me on a computer using the original posters.  I sent
one to Jeff Krueger.  I do believe he liked it very much.  It fits the DVD
case perfectly.

I'm sending it as an attachment, so sorry to any of you this might
inconvenience.

-- Rory




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Hey! Somebody run over and set Alex's VCR. He's working late and he'll miss
the trailer! He he he he he!

- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken & Heather Taylor" <kentaylor@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] novel reprint


> I kinda like the new novel cover, it's better than the previous version w/
the generic film canister.
> Don't ya think?
>
> Jack Krueger wrote:
>
> > Well, he is an "author". "Kwai" is more respected than "Apes" as a
work of
> > literature. But that cover photo is awful! I hope it's just a mockup.
And
> > who gets Boulle's royalties? - - - Jeff
>
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.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 7:46:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

   So Rory, did the new trailer give us a new catch phrase?

I guess it would be "Kill them all"  uttered by Tim Roth's Thade.

I've looked at the trailer a couple more times now and I'm sort of bothered
by something....

Oh, by the way, you get a view of Linda Harrison standing next to Wahlberg in
the wagon-cage thing.

What's bothering me is that the actor's wearing the ape makeup have no chin
appliances.  Although the makeups look great, now I'm seeing that they're all
photographed from above so you don't see how they've just got appliances on
their noses.

I don't know if this is going to work.  I guess it does or else they wouldn't
have gone forward, but I think they really should have given Baker more time.

-- Rory

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Attachments :

Wow! That looks pretty awesome! I want one!

By the way, what is an "anamorphic picture transfer?"

Matt

.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 5:54:31 AM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:

Okay, Mlccougar, I can see I've created a Frankenstein with you.  You're
back
in the box.  You are to shut up and not say another word for the next three
months.

(Now let's all of us see if he takes this seriously, the paranoid little
git.)

-- Rory, Boss of the POTA e-group

No can do Rory.I gotta speak up when neccessary.

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Jeff,

Forgive me it this is old hat, but I haven't been on the list that long. Do
you actually know Natalie Trundy personally? How do you have so much info on
her?

Sorry if this question is too personal. I was just curious. I think it would
be kind of cool to actually know someone who was so close the Apes phenomenon.

Matt

Thanks for the heads up on the preview although I was somewhat disappointed
that they didn't show the entire trailer and just showed a few scenes. Oh
well I'm sure it will show up online soon. I also just got off the phone with
Jane at Fox and she said the TV series may POSSIBLY be out on 14 1hr episodes
at the end of the year, so we'll have to wait and see. She said there are no
plans for the cartoons to come out and no special editions of any of the
first 5 Apes films planned. On another note, to fans of other sci-fi, she
also said there are no plans to release Star Wars on dvd.

Also, I was wondering if anyone has heard that a novel will be made for the
new film and if so who is writing it?

Loc

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 5:01 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] The Proper DVD cover

In a message dated 4/20/01 7:46:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

   So Rory, did the new trailer give us a new catch phrase?

I guess it would be "Kill them all"  uttered by Tim Roth's Thade.

I've looked at the trailer a couple more times now and I'm sort of bothered
by something....

Oh, by the way, you get a view of Linda Harrison standing next to Wahlberg in
the wagon-cage thing.

What's bothering me is that the actor's wearing the ape makeup have no chin
appliances.  Although the makeups look great, now I'm seeing that they're all
photographed from above so you don't see how they've just got appliances on
their noses.

I don't know if this is going to work.  I guess it does or else they wouldn't
have gone forward, but I think they really should have given Baker more time.

-- Rory



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Yes I know her quite well but Michael Whitty doesn't like me to drop names.
I met her at the 30th Anniversary party but it took me 6 months to get the
nerve to follow up. I could've stopped her from selling the Lawgiver so
cheaply but missed it by a month.

- - - -
Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 5:11 PM
Subject: [pota] Jeff and Natalie Trundy


> Jeff,
>
> Forgive me it this is old hat, but I haven't been on the list that long.
Do
> you actually know Natalie Trundy personally? How do you have so much info
on
> her?
>
> Sorry if this question is too personal. I was just curious. I think it
would
> be kind of cool to actually know someone who was so close the Apes
phenomenon.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 11:20:55 AM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

. And what about Cougar, who won't see it until it turns up on ABC in 2003.
We don't want to spoil it for him.

Go ahead and spoil it for me,I am quite sure I will never watch it anyway.Not
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Yeah, thanks for the heads up, Rory.

There will definitely be a novelization but I don't know who. But the
"making of" book is by the guy who did the U.K. book "Burton on
- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <locutusatwolf359@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] New POTA trailer on Entertainment Tonight TONIGHT!!!!


> Thanks for the heads up on the preview although I was somewhat
disappointed
> that they didn't show the entire trailer and just showed a few scenes. Oh
> well I'm sure it will show up online soon. I also just got off the phone
with
> Jane at Fox and she said the TV series may POSSIBLY be out on 14 1hr
episodes
> at the end of the year, so we'll have to wait and see. She said there are
no
> plans for the cartoons to come out and no special editions of any of the
> first 5 Apes films planned. On another note, to fans of other sci-fi, she
> also said there are no plans to release Star Wars on dvd.
>
> Also, I was wondering if anyone has heard that a novel will be made for
the
> new film and if so who is writing it?
>
> Loc
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 1:31:47 PM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:

I'd retther no say..
People here want to see the movie first and I have said enough about it.
In respect to those who have ask me to keep my mouth shut until July 27th.
:o)

Best,

Alex

Ok.I'll meet you half way now (for real this time).I'll "be clever and be
quiet",if you are willing to.I think we can both do it.

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.html Very nice Rory!
It would be nice if Fox were to issue the 5 movies on DVD using their original poster art.
Are you planning to make new covers for the other 4?
Best,
KEN

Haristas@... wrote:

With the news that Fox is going to be re-releasing APES on DVD, I want to
bring up again how bad I think it was that Fox decided to spoil the
conclusion of the original by putting the Statue of Liberty on the cover.

I hate the 30th Anniversary PLANET cover so much that as soon as the DVD came
out last August, I had a new cover all ready.  Here's the DVD cover for
PLANET I had done for me on a computer using the original posters.  I sent
one to Jeff Krueger.  I do believe he liked it very much.  It fits the DVD
case perfectly.

I'm sending it as an attachment, so sorry to any of you this might
inconvenience.

-- Rory
 
 

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.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 8:41:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

Because I know who you are, you freak!

And stop asking all these questions about Ari (we know what you want).

And back off Rory - he's mine.

He he he he!

Michael



You know, Mike, in the last twenty-four hours I've been wondering if you've
lost it or something?   Did they finally come down to your cage and take you
away for that lobotomy?

Start making sense, Whitty!!!

-- Rory

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.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 8:42:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

I've got 6 and opened the one that's going for $80!
        - - - - Jeff

And lost his club!!!!   You menace!  You walking pestilence!

-- Rory

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.htmlKen,

All I got with this was a zip or something.  Why do I get these from you
sometimes?  I won't open them because I've already got too many somewhere in
my computer.

So, if you were saying something to me about my DVD cover could you please
try again.

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