.html I don't know why that is Rory.
It could be because it had your original attachment on my reply?
Or it could be something to do w/ the Yahoo banner ads that seem to appear on all my incoming emails?
Not sure.
Anyhoo...
here's the message:

Very nice Rory!
It would be nice if Fox were to issue the 5 movies on DVD using their original poster art.
Are you planning to make new covers for the other 4?
Best,
KEN

Haristas@... wrote:

Ken,

All I got with this was a zip or something.  Why do I get these from you
sometimes?  I won't open them because I've already got too many somewhere in
my computer.

So, if you were saying something to me about my DVD cover could you please
try again.

Thanks,
Rory
 

 

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Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:

>How's the weather there in England? Warming up yet? Nice and warm here in
>Florida, but dry. We need some of the rain you Brits get plenty of.

Help yourself, we've got more than enough to go round.

Alan

KC <kc@...> wrote:

>the best
>scenerio would be for them to not only do a score soundtrack, but a
>soundtrack soundtrack, like with the goo goo dolls, fuel, papa roach,
>whatever and actually release a single, then I would be in for sure.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Song spin-off albums are the harbinger of death.

Alan

Brings back painful memories of when Burton used Prince on
- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Soundtrack info/Opening Night


> KC <kc@...> wrote:
> >the best
> >scenerio would be for them to not only do a score soundtrack, but a
> >soundtrack soundtrack, like with the goo goo dolls, fuel, papa roach,
> >whatever and actually release a single, then I would be in for sure.
>
> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Song spin-off albums are the harbinger of death.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

>
>Anyone have any other questions for the Medicom folk?

Yeah, any spare figures left over?

Hungry and Medicomless, please give generously.

Alan

.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 9:30:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kentaylor@... writes:

Very nice Rory!
It would be nice if Fox were to issue the 5 movies on DVD using their
original poster art.
Are you planning to make new covers for the other 4?
Best,
KEN

Thanks, Ken.  Yes, I plan to do the same for the sequels, it's just a
question of finding the time.  Also, because the covers are bent from being
in the DVD snap cases, or whatever they're called, they have to be mounted on
cardboard or foamboard first so they can be perfectly scanned with no
reflections from the folds.   I bought the boxed-set, but since they sold
PLANET by itself I also got that, since I knew I was going to want to do this.

Anyway, the original Fox DVD cover for PLANET is now ruined, replaced by what
I did.  I don't think I want to do that to the covers to all the sequels just
yet.  I might want to keep my boxed-set preserved as a collector's item.  
Besides, you know my view of the sequels -- I'm really not too passionate
about them.  

Since PLANET is my favorite movie, I just couldn't any longer stomach the
30th Anniversary Statue cover -- and it was on the front and back!

I might just make poster repros for the sequels that can be slipped into just
the front of the DVD cases.

But, damn!!!  I'm going on forever about this!  Enough now.

-- Rory

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Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:

>As for Medicoms we didn't get.... well I'm fairly satisfied. What I'd like
>to see is more and better resin kits. Like a kit of the Tribunal at their
>desk striking the 'see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil' pose. Or a

kit

>of those three gorilla hunters 'smiling' as they get their picture took

with

>the one in the middle with his foot on a pile of dead men. YEAH!!! That
>would be cool!

Agreed. And one of the Alpha Omega bomb with the main mutants worshipping in
front of it (maybe includue Brent and Nova in robes). And an "Escape" cage
with the trio of intelligent apes and depressed gorilla. And Conquest-style
gang of violent marauding apes. And Cornelius & family on the throne from
Battle.

>Did anybody else here get the Icarus spaceship kit from

Monstersinmotion.com?

> It's $100, but it's worth it. I also have the smaller Skyhook kit.
>They're both cool.

Don't know much about kits myself. I was always pretty talentless in that
department. Over to you, Dave B!

Alan

Jeff Krueger <williejoe@...> wrote:

>Well, that's the basic outline for the "Apes". As you can see by the box

numbers, there's >alot more films covered, from ones that were made like
"Dr. Dolittle" and "Play It Again, >Sam", to many more that weren't, like
"Dune", "Frankenstein" , "Noah'.

>Plays that Arthur backed, TV productions, lots and lots of stuff. Plus a

gallery of photo >albums, Jacobs' film collection, and stuff that hasn't
been catalogued.

>
>Whatdya think? - - - - Jeff

Incredible!

And Michael's just found another answer to what extras we'd like to see on a
new DVD set!

Alan

Jeff Krueger <williejoe@...> wrote:

> This brings up a good point. After we Yanks see the movie we can't talk
>about it because it'll still be spoilers for others. What do we
>do? - - - - Jeff

SPOLIER WARNINGS!

Lots of 'em! PLEASE!!!

Alan

.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 9:39:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
alan@... writes:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Song spin-off albums are the harbinger of death.

Alan

Damn straight!   I only buy original score CDs.

-- Rory

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Jeff Krueger <williejoe@...> wrote:

>Rory's right. "Access Hollywood" was a bust. But they had some cool footage

of the "Final >Fantasy" movie (the first ever photo-realistic computer
created humans). Basically, "Access >Hollywood" is a prostitute for NBC's
programming. They've had "reports" on the new show >"Weakest Link" all week.
Damn corporate culture! - - - -Jeff


Oh bloody hell, The Weakest Link. I don't know if that show started in the
UK or not, but just in case it did, will you all please accept my apologies
on behalf of all Brits. I am truly sorry.

Alan

Yeah! I saw the "Entertainment Tonight" footage. It looks great and it
looks like they really are going to try to give some food for thought. It
even asks the question we all want to know: "Is there a soul in there?"
Looks like there is.

Tim Roth steals the trailer, but they all look like they're acting there
asses off. Visually, it looks alot more like the originals than I expected.
In about 15 minutes I'll go to the website and see the trailer proper.

Rule the Planet! Bow Your Head! Kill Them All!
( With apologies to Alex).

- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] NEW POTA TRAILER


> Jeff Krueger <williejoe@...> wrote:
> >Rory's right. "Access Hollywood" was a bust. But they had some cool
footage
> of the "Final >Fantasy" movie (the first ever photo-realistic computer
> created humans). Basically, "Access >Hollywood" is a prostitute for NBC's
> programming. They've had "reports" on the new show >"Weakest Link" all
week.
> Damn corporate culture! - - - -Jeff
>
>
> Oh bloody hell, The Weakest Link. I don't know if that show started in the
> UK or not, but just in case it did, will you all please accept my
apologies
> on behalf of all Brits. I am truly sorry.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 10:11:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
alan@... writes:

Oh bloody hell, The Weakest Link. I don't know if that show started in the
UK or not, but just in case it did, will you all please accept my apologies
on behalf of all Brits. I am truly sorry.

Alan

Alan, could you also say you're sorry for Hugh Grant?

-- Rory

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.htmlIn a message dated 4/20/01 10:28:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Tim Roth steals the trailer, but they all look like they're acting there
asses off. Visually, it looks alot more like the originals than I expected.

Jeff, I'm telling you.... alot is always "a lot."    Go ask your old high
school English teacher.   

Please stop using "alot."   Look you're not going to find "alot" in the
dictionary.   You're writing and trying to sell articles, it isn't
professional to use "alot."

Jeez!

-- Rory the stickler

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:39 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Trailer - - a hit!

In a message dated 4/20/01 10:28:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Tim Roth steals the trailer, but they all look like they're acting there
asses off. Visually, it looks alot more like the originals than I expected.

Jeff, I'm telling you.... alot is always "a lot."    Go ask your old high
school English teacher.   

Please stop using "alot."   Look you're not going to find "alot" in the
dictionary.   You're writing and trying to sell articles, it isn't
professional to use "alot."

Jeez!

-- Rory the stickler



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.htmlWHATEVER!!!!<.html

In a message dated 4/20/01 5:13:52 PM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< All I know is that was a steal! The copy Arthur made for "Apes" fan Sammy
Davis
Jr. went for more, and this was the real deal. >>
Who got it? Brian? hehe
What about the one in Roddy McDowall's backyard?

.htmlOh, yes....

The website SUCKS --- A LOT!!!!!


Rory (aka "Teacher")   Now go back and write it again, Jeff "Aldo" Krueger!!<.html

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In a message dated 4/20/01 5:27:35 PM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:

<< I don't think there's anything 'fun' about that fact, Jeffery. I'd like
to
know it was still in Arthur's backyard, but then I guess she sold his house
years ago, too. Too bad. >>

Oh yeah . . . He had the Caesar statue. My bad.

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No, Roddy had the Caesar statue and I hear he donated it to the Motion
Picture Fund which will display it in the garden named after him.

- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] E.W. out; Medicom question


> In a message dated 4/20/01 5:27:35 PM Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@...
> writes:
>
> << I don't think there's anything 'fun' about that fact, Jeffery. I'd
like
> to
> know it was still in Arthur's backyard, but then I guess she sold his
house
> years ago, too. Too bad. >>
>
> Oh yeah . . . He had the Caesar statue. My bad.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Good answer! Brian did get it, Brian Peck. Big "Apes" fan and a successful
one. He's an ator and acting coach. A member of "Apemania". Donated the
Lawgiver to the Chambers tribute. Coached the "X-Men" actors, and got to do
3 days as an orangutan in the new movie; Did all the male voices for the new
video game (including Zauis; Booth Colman flaked). Was a good friend of
Roddy's.
'Nuf said? - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] E.W. out; Medicom question


> In a message dated 4/20/01 5:13:52 PM Central Daylight Time,
> williejoe@... writes:
>
> << All I know is that was a steal! The copy Arthur made for "Apes" fan
Sammy
> Davis
> Jr. went for more, and this was the real deal. >>
> Who got it? Brian? hehe
> What about the one in Roddy McDowall's backyard?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

In a message dated 4/20/01 8:42:59 PM, williejoe@... writes:

<<I've got 6 and opened the one that's going for $80!>>

So what! Open them all! That's what they're for! What good is a toy in a
package? If you have no plans to ever sell it then why not open it?

Matt

Because there's no articulation, man! And stuff gets lost. And who says I
won't sell them? I'll tell you what. I'd sell that one I opened for $80 -
$140 ! - - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Great Medicom Deal!


>
> In a message dated 4/20/01 8:42:59 PM, williejoe@... writes:
>
> <<I've got 6 and opened the one that's going for $80!>>
>
> So what! Open them all! That's what they're for! What good is a toy in a
> package? If you have no plans to ever sell it then why not open it?
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

In a message dated 4/20/01 11:23:43 PM, williejoe@... writes:

<<I'll tell you what. I'd sell that one I opened for $80 -$140 ! >>

Why would I do that? I got mine for $40.95!

And why is losing the club such a problem with you? You gotta be careful!

Matt

P.S. There is no such word as "alot"

.htmlHere more of the interview I posted yesterday.

Kaufman:  For both "The Double Man" and "Planet of the Apes" you used a lot
(SEE,  Jeff Krueger!) of wide-open country.  You possibly could have used
forests for PLANET.  Why open country?

Scaffner:  Well, PLANET posed a special problem.  You hoped people wouldn't
guess the fact that the ape society was on Earth, but also had to deliver
hints from time to time in order to make the ending legitimate.  Wide-open,
desert-like scenery seemed to indicate a planet somewhere, and was suitable
for the idea at the end of a planet that had been devastated.  Actually,
aside from the opening, and the return at the end, the rest of the film --
the ape town, for example -- is the 20th Century-Fox ranch in Malibu.  All we
did was grow some corn and some tall grass.  The beach was about twenty-five
minutes from where I am sitting, on a cove called Point Doom, appropriately
enough.

Kaufman:  There are two relationships in PLANET which I guess I could call
love -- the one between Taylor, the hero, and the aboriginal girl, and the
one between two ape scientists.  I found both extremely touching, but a lot
(Jeffery?!!!  You got a lot of explaining to do!) of people thought the ape
relationship ludicrous.

Schaffner:  I think the relationship between the chimpanzees comes out more
touching than humorous.  That was certainly our intention.  We also wanted it
to counterpoint the man-woman relationship, which consisted of a
technologically highly developed astronaut having to deal emotionally with a
human being who was little more than an aborigine, albeit attractive
physically.  But if there's any social comment in this film it's in the
relationship between the chimpanzees.  For my money, they come close to
stealing the picture.

Kaufman:  How did you go about solving the end of PLANET OF THE APES?  It's
certainly a phenomenal ending.  I tried to think of other ways in which such
an ending could have been done and realized how easily it could have been a
fiasco -- unbelievable and totally unacceptable.  But your ending does work,
and I can't understand why.

Schaffner:  I don't think anybody, me least of all, could have predicted
whether this picture was going to work or not.  There was a debate for a long
time whether or not Taylor should live after seeing the Statue of Liberty.  
It seemed to me -- as an optimist and one who wants to play fair with an
audience -- that the man must survive.  If he dies in the end there is no
reason to tell his story.  But PLANET went through more discussions in more
areas than any picture I have been on -- it had to, for there were so many
technical and creative problems.  For example, somebody would say:  "Well,
where is the source of the apes' light?"  Whereupon a sketch artist would
design a light for the apes.  Of course it looked silly, so you decide the
simplest approach is the best and just never show a source of light.  Then
someone would say:  "How do the apes communicate?  Do they use telephones?"  
They don't use telephones because apes using telephones looks ridiculous.  So
you provide a kind of "extra-sensory preception" for the apes and when one
wants to see another one, the second ape suddenly walks in -- it's dramatic
license, but so what?  Then: "What's their form of transportation?"  In one
version the apes rode around in cars.  Well, that was suitable for very broad
comedy, or very bad satire, but we weren't making that kind of picture.  It
seemed their only credible form of transportation would be another animal.  A
simian riding a horse made another point -- the language one, that is, there
is no ther form of animal life on the planet, only simians and horses, and,
like the humans, the horses never make a sound.  The only form of life that
could vocalize were the simians.


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.html Alan, could you also say you're sorry for Hugh Grant?

Hey, don't get us stated.
People who live in glass houses...

anyway, even us Aussies have our own torturous version of the "Weakest Link"
Same set, same style of host w/ the same kind of wardrobe.
It's spooky.

Haristas@... wrote:

In a message dated 4/20/01 10:11:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
alan@... writes:
 

Oh bloody hell, The Weakest Link. I don't know if that show started in the
UK or not, but just in case it did, will you all please accept my apologies
on behalf of all Brits. I am truly sorry.

Alan

 

Alan, could you also say you're sorry for Hugh Grant?

-- Rory
 

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It took forever but I watched the trailer on the website. Alex was right
it's going to be a masterpiece (or at least Burton's masterpiece). It
definitely has the traditional "Apes" message laden story and won't just be
monkeys wielding swords. That's what I wanted, but every fan has their own
expectation. I can't speak for the movie yet, just the trailer. There's
about twice as much footage as on "Entertainment tonight. The standout is
still Tim Roth but I also liked the bald guy who says, "They've come to see
the human who defies the apes". Ari is still the trouble spot, though I
suspect she shaves her face as a protest of the treatment of humans. Or is
it just an ape custom? All the female apes seem to be that way. My choice
for the new quote: "Get me the spaceman!". I guess my biggest problem was
the ship landing, which looks kinda silly. But I guess we can expect even
less scientific coherence than the originals. The trailer portrays it as a
myth or fairy tale, so I reckon this will be to the originals what "Edward
Scissorhands" was to "Frankenstein". Storywise it reminded me more of the TV
show than the original movie.
Verdict: Two thumbs up (mine and Cougar's).

Kill them all,


Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken & Heather Taylor" <kentaylor@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] novel reprint


> I kinda like the new novel cover, it's better than the previous version w/
the generic film canister.
> Don't ya think?
>
> Jack Krueger wrote:
>
> > Well, he is an "author". "Kwai" is more respected than "Apes" as a
work of
> > literature. But that cover photo is awful! I hope it's just a mockup.
And
> > who gets Boulle's royalties? - - - Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 4/20/01 10:11:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> alan@a... writes:
>
>
> > Oh bloody hell, The Weakest Link. I don't know if that show

started in the

> > UK or not, but just in case it did, will you all please accept my

apologies

> > on behalf of all Brits. I am truly sorry.
> >
> >
>
> Alan, could you also say you're sorry for Hugh Grant?
>
> -- Rory

Hey us Brits will gladly apologise for Hugh Grant, as long as you lot
over the pond apologise for Pee Wee Herman !!!

Dan

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I just watched the new trailer for the movie and I have to say this is going
to be one damn fine movie! The makeup in my opinion looks awesome and the
plot seems to hold true to the original. My birthday is July 28th so I'm
seeing it then and this will make an awesome gift!

Loc

In a message dated 4/20/01 9:12:08 PM Central Daylight Time,
alan@... writes:

<< will you all please accept my apologies
on behalf of all Brits. I am truly sorry. >>

Are you kidding? I love that show!

You are the leakest Wink! Bock bock!

In a message dated 4/20/01 9:27:59 PM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< Yeah! I saw the "Entertainment Tonight" footage. It looks great >>

Shyeah, when monkeys fly out of my butt!
Some of it looked good and some of it was over done! A bit too much of
launching apes on wires with air cannons. If real apes could jump like that
no zoo could hold them. And the no chin piece look, looks like Gelfs from
Red Dwarf. It's okay as long as you don't go to a profile. Then is ruins
the illusion completely. Let's not sugar coat it. It has it's problems.
Yeah, Rick will probably get another Oscar for his mantle piece. I just hope
no one laughs. A bit hard on it? Maybe, but I still liked it.

.htmlIn a message dated 4/21/01 2:48:23 AM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Verdict: Two thumbs up (mine and Cougar's).

Hey,can you keep me out of this please?I may cool it for awhile("again") but
it'll be hard to if I'm brought into it.So if you don't want my opinions on
what is being said as far as the movie,just leave me out of it,then I won't
be tempted to say anything.But if you guys like my negativism tell me and I
will comment on it.But if you are just going to bring me into it just for the
sake of doing so,don't drag me into it.

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Mez,

Have you got the Aussie release Box Sets of the TV Series?

They play on the Secam system.

I can get you a set if you want.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Mez Downes [mdownes@...]
Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2001 8:48
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: ape tv series becomes a reality

--- In pota@y..., Kay53531@a... wrote:
> I just heard from jane at fox she said her email was saying
> nov ,for series will be on dvd a four disc set.and five vhs tapes
> 100 min each.In sets only. all 14 episodes!
> sounds like we did it thanks to everyone who wrote and
> called bryan

Bryan, if this pans out you may just have made my year!! (Short a
windfall from the National Lottery or Millwall Holdings, that is.)
Now all we need is a DVD player....

Thank you!! /Mez

.html In a message dated 4/20/01 6:23:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

But where does it end? How soon after Aug. 9 can we discuss it openly. There
may be some countries getting it even later, and some people who won't or
can't see it right away. And what about Cougar, who won't see it until it
turns up on ABC in 2003. We don't want to spoil it for him.

                                                 - - - - - Jeff


How hard will it be to put "SPOILERS" on the subject lines of our postings?   
I just think we RUDE Yanks should show some consideration to our fellow
English-speaking allies.   When I wrote you Aussies and Brits beware, I meant
beware of the typical "F**k You" attitude of US Yanks when it comes to things
like this.

Well, we'll see how it goes at the end of July.

-- Rory



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.html In a message dated 4/20/01 6:51:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Where is Fox coming from? All these books will do is help them promote their
franchise. As far as I know Fox isn't planning an "Official" book about the
originals. Unauthorized books that look bad because there's no pictures will
reflect badly on the series to the general consumer and maybe they'll buy
less DVDs and "classic" items Fox wants to sell. These books will still come
out.

                                                     - - - - Jeff

It's very simple what Fox is up to, I think.  They want most people to
consider the new POTA the one and only POTA.

---  Rory

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.html Hey Everybody!!!!

Entertainment Tonight just started here in the east (7 PM) and they're going
to show the new trailer.

I've got to go throw a tape into the VCR.

As Alex says .....  YAAAAAA WOOOOO WAAAAAA!!!!

or something like that.

-- Rory



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.html In a message dated 4/20/01 9:30:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kentaylor@... writes:

Very nice Rory!
It would be nice if Fox were to issue the 5 movies on DVD using their
original poster art.
Are you planning to make new covers for the other 4?
Best,
KEN

Thanks, Ken.  Yes, I plan to do the same for the sequels, it's just a
question of finding the time.  Also, because the covers are bent from being
in the DVD snap cases, or whatever they're called, they have to be mounted on
cardboard or foamboard first so they can be perfectly scanned with no
reflections from the folds.   I bought the boxed-set, but since they sold
PLANET by itself I also got that, since I knew I was going to want to do this.

Anyway, the original Fox DVD cover for PLANET is now ruined, replaced by what
I did.  I don't think I want to do that to the covers to all the sequels just
yet.  I might want to keep my boxed-set preserved as a collector's item.  
Besides, you know my view of the sequels -- I'm really not too passionate
about them.  

Since PLANET is my favorite movie, I just couldn't any longer stomach the
30th Anniversary Statue cover -- and it was on the front and back!

I might just make poster repros for the sequels that can be slipped into just
the front of the DVD cases.

But, damn!!!  I'm going on forever about this!  Enough now.

-- Rory



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.html Oh, yes....

The website SUCKS --- A LOT!!!!!


Rory (aka "Teacher")   Now go back and write it again, Jeff "Aldo" Krueger!!

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<< Yes, by all means, let's not even attempt courtesy. You foreigners
just watch out and stay out of our way . . . >>

This man does not speak for me.
Unless you limies side with those bastards the Chinese, then screw you!

Set your sarcasmers on stun

<< 2:30 AM GMT????

That would mean that General Mountain Time would be before Eastren Standard
Time!!! Impossible.

Man, that must have been some good dope!!
Jeeezzz!!! >>

GMT is Greenwich Mean Time you dope!

.htmlIn a message dated 4/21/01 4:02:34 AM Central Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

You can say whatever you want as I will do the same.

And in the end we'll see who makes more money - POTA Original or Remake?

So you just keep flapping those lips buddy.
Money talks and bullshit walks.

Best,

Alex


Hey,I was willing to meet you half way on this but apparently you don' t want
to.

Who cares how much it makes?Does that make for a good movie,the cash it
generates?I don't think it does.Money doesn't mean its going to be regarded
as a classic in 30+  years.

And you can just keep "flapping your lips".We all know how we feel on it,we
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bit darker. I was hoping for more of a comic book look to it. Not silly
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"Planet of the Apes" is Burton's apology (ape-ology?) for Pee-Wee
- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <daniel225nma@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 1:52 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: NEW POTA TRAILER


> --- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> > In a message dated 4/20/01 10:11:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > alan@a... writes:
> >
> >
> > > Oh bloody hell, The Weakest Link. I don't know if that show
> started in the
> > > UK or not, but just in case it did, will you all please accept my
> apologies
> > > on behalf of all Brits. I am truly sorry.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Alan, could you also say you're sorry for Hugh Grant?
> >
> > -- Rory
>
> Hey us Brits will gladly apologise for Hugh Grant, as long as you lot
> over the pond apologise for Pee Wee Herman !!!
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:00 PM

Subject: [pota] Say whatever you want

And go ahead and say my word is no good,I don't care.Like I said,I never
promised that I would stay quiet on this.And now that I know at least one
member of the High Council is willing to back me,I'll say whatever I want to.

 

 

You can say whatever you want as I will do the same.

And in the end we'll see who makes more money - POTA Original or Remake?

 

So you just keep flapping those lips buddy.

Money talks and bullshit walks.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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From: mlccougar@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 2:35 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Bow your heads before Alex!

In a message dated 4/21/01 2:48:23 AM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Verdict: Two thumbs up (mine and Cougar's).

Hey,can you keep me out of this please?I may cool it for awhile("again") but
it'll be hard to if I'm brought into it.So if you don't want my opinions on
what is being said as far as the movie,just leave me out of it,then I won't
be tempted to say anything.But if you guys like my negativism tell me and I
will comment on it.But if you are just going to bring me into it just for the
sake of doing so,don't drag me into it.

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--- In pota@y..., "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> Mez,
>
> Have you got the Aussie release Box Sets of the TV Series?
>
> They play on the Secam system.
>
> I can get you a set if you want.
>
> Michael

That's sweet of you, thanks! I'm planning to ask for them as an
anniversary gift (August). Can I ask my husband to get in touch with
you when it comes time for him to shop for his wench -- er, wife? /Mez

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prophecysite@... writes:

That was a delayed post.

Peace Brother...Forget about that. Let's just be POTA freinds.

Best,

Alex


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williejoe@... writes:

Sorry, I couldn't resist!          - - - Jeff

I didn't think you were really being serious with that.Its cool.<.html

In a message dated 4/20/01 2:56:15 AM Central Daylight Time,
mlccougar@... writes:

<< Of course since most of the group says nothing I'm sure your backers will
be right behind you,and I'll be left alone. >>

I'd say somthing, if I knew what the hell you were talking about.

<< Ari is still the trouble spot, though I suspect she shaves her face as a
protest of the treatment of humans. Or is it just an ape custom? All the
female apes seem to be that way. >>


I suspect the reason she has less hair is as Helena Bonham Carter says Ari is
80% human. I'm guessing she knows what she's talking about. I thought
everyone knew that by now. But the way they change things at the last minute
on the proj who knows. Lisa Marie has the same hair style, or lack of one.
But she does have teeth so maybe that's the difference between her and a full
blooded chimpette.

Once again it looks like the number of females around is very limited. I
hope to see some of the other species this time. Unlike the one female orang
in Conquest and the possible female gorilla in Planet.

I agree on the other things. The spaceship looks like they just chucked it
in the swamp . . . or flew it in on wires. And with talking humans how could
you not be reminded of the television series? It looks like any intellectual
territory will be focused on human rights rather than animal rights. More of
a Conquest then a Planet.

In a message dated 4/21/01 11:53:28 AM Central Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< Phantom Menace as we all know was crap, but yet made 1 billion world wide
so someone clearly liked it. >>

I don't think they liked it so much as being starved for it. They had to
wait years so they'd take any old SW crap. If it was good it would have done
half again as much. Shows what a large fan base will do. I'm sure this POTA
will do well regardless of how the Fans feel. There's enough there to turn a
profit without us. That doesn't mean it's good.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 9:57 AM

Subject: [pota] Money issue

Sorry, I couldn't resist!          - - - Jeff

 

That's cool Jeff.

My point is simply this.

Phantom Menace as we all know was crap, but yet made 1 billion world wide so someone clearly liked it.

 

It may have not been the best as far a story quality or anything else...but again that's one owns personal OPINION.

 

So in the end...money talks and bullshit walks.

For that is the final OPINION.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:29 AM

Subject: [pota] Linda Alert!

This must be Linda Harrison in the trailer.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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When she says 80% human I think she meant how Burton wanted her played.
Since humans and apes can't reproduce I'd find it hard to believe she'd be
the product of "creme in the coffee".

The crash landing is a real disappointment, especially since the crash is
one of the most famous moments in the original.

- - - - -
Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 12:17 PM
Subject: [pota] Ari sez use Burmashave


>
> << Ari is still the trouble spot, though I suspect she shaves her face as
a
> protest of the treatment of humans. Or is it just an ape custom? All the
> female apes seem to be that way. >>
>
>
> I suspect the reason she has less hair is as Helena Bonham Carter says Ari
is
> 80% human. I'm guessing she knows what she's talking about. I thought
> everyone knew that by now. But the way they change things at the last
minute
> on the proj who knows. Lisa Marie has the same hair style, or lack of
one.
> But she does have teeth so maybe that's the difference between her and a
full
> blooded chimpette.
>
> Once again it looks like the number of females around is very limited. I
> hope to see some of the other species this time. Unlike the one female
orang
> in Conquest and the possible female gorilla in Planet.
>
> I agree on the other things. The spaceship looks like they just chucked
it
> in the swamp . . . or flew it in on wires. And with talking humans how
could
> you not be reminded of the television series? It looks like any
intellectual
> territory will be focused on human rights rather than animal rights. More
of
> a Conquest then a Planet.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 6:45 PM

Subject: [pota] No New Trailer

No new Trailer but hey...there's always tomorrow with the official web site.

Exclusive tomorrow and Saturday.

 

No big deal...just one more day.

So don't take it so hard Rory...I know I'm not.

I'm just enjoying the ride like everyone else.

 

Sorry for the false alarm guys. But at least I'm staying on top of things.

 

All the best,

Alex

 

NEW POTA TRAILER on the offical web site Friday and Saturdy.

YEEEE HAAAA!!! (PART TWO)

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.htmlIn a message dated 4/21/01 1:55:48 PM Central Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:

I'd say somthing, if I knew what the hell you were talking about.

LordTZero,this is all over with now.The 3 of us in this "war" have all made
peace with each other and it is over.We all came to an understanding on it
all.We have all agreed to disagree and we aren't going to be fighting about
it anymore.I'm sure we will all say this.Speaking for myself,I know I will
keep quiet in it.

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tell us if you all agree.for a Tim Burton film I thought it would be a little
bit darker. I was hoping for more of a comic book look to it. Not silly
looking, but more like what Tim did with Sleepy Hollow. Dark and gloomy.....

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.html Yeah we get ET pretty much as it goes to air but due to the time difference it plays at 11 am. So we would get Thursday nights show on OUR Friday morning but as were about 15 hours ahead of the U.S, it's pretty much at the same time as the Yanks get it. Except for Friday nights show, as it only runs Monday to Friday, we'll get Fridays' show tomorrow, our Monday.
Keeping up?
So, in answer to your question Michael, in a round about way.....Yes, I'll be watching.
Best,
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Michael Whitty wrote:

 An aussie friend of mine said for fellow Aussie fans to be watching this show Monday Morning.You listening Taylor?  Tay-lor.  Yes you.  Or did you have something better planned?Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [mailto:Haristas@...]
Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2001 9:04
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] New POTA trailer on Entertainment Tonight TONIGHT!!!!

Hey Everybody!!!!

Entertainment Tonight just started here in the east (7 PM) and they're going
to show the new trailer.

I've got to go throw a tape into the VCR.

As Alex says .....  YAAAAAA WOOOOO WAAAAAA!!!!

or something like that.

-- Rory
 
 

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.htmlOh, My God!  Has it been over two weeks since my last installment of the
rundown of the films of Charlton "Chuck" "Chuckels" "Charlie Hero" Heston?

Have any of you been just pulling your hair out wondering when I'd get back
to this?

Probably not, but since we all seem to be in a 'new POTA trailer' hangover
here, I thought I'd try to wrap up my thoughts on the guy who's arguably the
greatest movie hero next to John Wayne, and a legend in his own mind, Chuck,
aka Mr. NRA.

With his latest movie appearance about to happen in a week (That would be
"Town & Country," folks.), let's go back to where I left off and then try to
cover all my favorite Chuck films since.  And boy, he sure did make ALOT of
them!

THE TEN COMMANDMENTS (1956)  Hey, did you see this just the other week?  It
was on ABC, I think because it was Easter, but more probably Passover, but I
passed it over after about five minutes.  Cecil B. DeMille's greatest epic is
just so corny and campy I can't take it.  I almost bought this movie on DVD,
but then I came to my senses, but hey, I suposed to be talking about Chuck
here.

So, he stars as Moses, the film's a big hit with the repressed people of '50s
USA, and Chuck's now the biggest thing in Hollywood since Jane Russell's
boobs (See a connection there?  Boobs -- Heston, Heston -- boobs?  No?  OK,
forget it.), and what is superstar Chuck's next film. . . . . . . . .

THREE VIOLENT PEOPLE (1956)  What the f**k!!!  Who the hell remembers this
movie?  Well, I do, though I wasn't born when it came out.  It's a western
about these three violent people, who get violent with each other, and it all
ends in violence.  Chuck plays this ex-Confederate, ex-captain guy who's
violent and he marries Anne Baxter, who played like his sister or girlfriend
or something in the last movie "The Ten Commandments," and she's sometimes
violent, but it mostly just involves slapping Chuck in the face, BUT Chuck's
got this brother, Tom Tryon, and he's missing an arm because when they were
kids like Chuck got it cut off, so now this brother is all pissed-off and
violent.  Believe it or not, Jamie Farr and Robert Blake are in it, too.  
They get violent, and Forrest Tucker is in it, too, and he gets violent.  In
fact, they should have callled this "Lots of Violent People."   It's no "Wild
Bunch," but for '56 I guess pretty violent.

TOUCH OF EVIL (1958)  More violence.  This is one of Chuck's best movies.  It
just recently got restored because the studio, Universal, hated it and cut it
in a way nobody has liked, except somebody at Universal, I guess.  It's a
pretty famous movie.  Chuck plays a Mexican in it.  It was a stretch for
Chuck to play a Mexican, so Chuck decided the best way to do it would be
without a Mexican accent.  Remember before that boob/Heston thing I brought
up before?  Anyway, Chuck had one really good idea for this movie, and that
was to have Orson Welles direct.  Welles directed the shit out of this movie,
and he looks like shit in it -- really bad.  If you've never seen this movie,
I'd try to see it because it's a good movie to see.

THE BIG COUNTRY (1958)  This is a not so good western movie.  It's big, it's
well-directed by William Wyler, it's got lots of stars in it, but it's not
that great -- though it has a great score.  Chuck's not really the star of
it, he's just one of them.  This is the movie LordTZero saw a while ago where
Gregory Peck plays this sea captain who travels out west to marry this girl
and ends up in a big fight with Chuck.  They kick the shit out of each other
for sure, but no one wins.  I think that's supposed to be the point of this
movie, but after the fight there's still like another hour of the movie to
go, so I guess it had more points to make, but they're lost on me.  I
actually like Berl Ives and Chuck Conners best in this movie.  They're this
father and son who head this White-trash bunch that live in the desert, AND
in fact, POTA fans, the patch of desert they have their ranch on is the same
piece of ground in Red Rock Canyon where Ursus' Army marched over in BENEATH.
 For that reason I recommend renting this movie, and for the Peck/Heston
fight -- it's good.

THE BUCCANEER (1958) This movie isn't good, in fact it's pretty bad and not
one of my favorites, but I bring it up (Ha!  Bring it up!  Get it?) because
it's the second movie where Chuck played Andrew Jackson.  He's an old "Old
Hickery" in this movie, and so wears a big, white wig and lots of makeup.  In
fact, he kind of looks dead in this movie.  Let's move on because the next
one is really good....

BEN-HUR (1959)  Alright!!!  YEEEE HAAAA!!!!! as Alex would say.  This is
prime Chuck here -- the movie he got his Oscar for.  The movie he likes best.
 Chuck's favorite.  I'm sure you've seen it, but did you know that the writer
Gore Vidal worked uncredited on the script, and that Gore Vidal is gay, and
that he sort of made the relationship between  Judah Ben-Hur and Messala kind
of 'suggestive'?  Well, when Judah and Messala, who were boyhood friends,
first see each other again as adults in this movie, it's looks like they're
REALLY glad to see one another -- Heston has tears in his eyes --, and the
first thing they do is grab their spears and 'chuck' 'em.  I don't know about
you, but it seems kind of gay to me.  Later, when Judah refuses to do what
Messala wants, Messala gets so pissed-off at Judah, he has him thrown in
chains and forced to row a boat with a lot of other, mostly naked guys.  Is
that gay, or what?  BUT don't tell Chuck this!  Heston goes absolutely
ape-shit when it's even brought up!   Chuck, Chuck, Chuck.... So Ben-Hur was
gay -- there's nothing wrong with that.  He still wins the chariot race.  
And, Chuck.... you're so handsome when you win the race, all sweaty and
everything.  Hey!!!  What the hell am I saying?

WRECK OF THE MARY DEARE (1959)  This movie is okay.  Chuck's just the co-star
next to Gary Cooper.  There's a wreck of a ship in it, the Mary Deare, hence
the title.  I haven't seen it in years.  Let's move on....

EL CID (1961)  Oh, boy!  Chuck's back in armour in this one, fighting the
Moors to save Spain.  He fights, he kill's Sophia Loren's dad, he fights, he
marries Sophia Loren, he fights, they have kids, he fights... you get the
picture.  It goes on for like three hours.  I think this is the movie that
put the pond in ponderous.  Chuck's such a goody, goody superhero in it that
I think he's kind of a stiff, in fact at the end he IS a stiff.  I'm not
kidding, he's a dead guy at the end of this movie -- he's still fighting, but
he's dead!   Check it out!

THE PIGEON THAT TOOK ROME (1962)  I only mention this one so you'll belive me
when I say that Chuck once made a movie called "The Pigeon That Took Rome."  
Otherwise, you can forget about this picture -- nearly everyone else on the
planet has.  Why should we be special?

DIAMOND HEAD (1962)  This is a movie set in Hawaii where Chuck is this
pineapple baron who's a bigot and when his sister, the lovely Yvette Mimieux
(YEEEE HAAAA!), decides she's going to marry a full-blooded Hawaiian native,
the lovely James Darren, Chuck starts shitting bricks.  Chuck is a real
bastard in this movie.  His character here makes Taylor look like a nice guy.
 Chuck's such a bastard in this one they should have called the movie
"Diamond DickHead,"  but they didn't.

55 DAYS AT PEKING (1962)  Chuck in China during the 1900 Boxer Rebellion.  He
stiffly plays a stiff-necked U.S. Marine who helps British ambassador, David
Niven, fight off Chinese guys out to kill all the foreigners they can find.  
This ponderous movie goes on for nearly three hours, but seems to last more
like 55 days, hence the title.

THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD (1965)  NOT the greatest movie ever made.  This
story about the life and death of somebody named Jesus Christ is so full of
cameos by nearly every 'star' in Hollywood that it's nearly impossible to
take its story seriously.  Chuck plays John the Baptist.  He's real hairy and
wears like a bear skin or something.  He sort of looks like a caveman.  He
also loses his head.  Roddy McDowall is also in this movie, and Sal Mineo,
but then I could name everyone who was anyone back then -- they were probably
in it.  The only reason for we POTA fans to look at this movie, besides Chuck
and Roddy, is that it was shot in Glen Canyon before it was flooded to make
Lake Powell -- where Chuck would crash his spaceship in another movie.  In
fact, the sets for this film are still supposed to be at the bottom of the
lake.  Perhaps Chuck's bearsuit is down there, too.

THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY (1965)  This film is about how Michelangelo and
Pope Julius II didn't get along, but how the Sistine Chapel got painted
anyway.  It's dull, but nicely photographed by Leon Shamroy, who would
photograph this other Chuck movie.  This is also the movie that Chuck likes
to remind us he played a genius in.  He reminds us and he reminds us.  What
he DOESN'T remind us is that Michelangelo was GAY!  He was GAAAAAYYYY!   Hear
me, Chuck?   Chuck don't like to hear that.

MAJOR DUNDEE (1965)  This is another Chuck Western, directed by Sam
Peckinpah, and co-starring Richard Harris and James Coburn.  I like this film
even though it's a mess that was butched in editing by its studio and has a
very annoying score, but Chuck is SOOOO Chuck in this film you gotta love it.
 They shot it in Mexico and Chuck tells the story that during filming he
waited in the front room of a cathouse while Peckinpah banged some teenage
prositute.  Can you imagine banging a postitute while Chuck waits for you
outside?  I can't watch this movie without thinking about that.

THE WAR LORD (1965)  Hey!!!  HEADS UP POTA FANS!  If you've never seen this
film, or never even heard of it, well, Where the hell have you been?  It's
directed by this guy named Franklin J. Schaffner, stars Chuck, co-stars
Maurice Evans, and even has Woodrow "Maximus" Parfrey in it.  Chuck plays
this Norman knight back in the 11th Century who has to defend this piece of
ground along the coast of what's now Belgium against Viking dudes.  Chuck has
a funny looking haircut in this one and fights Vikings on his horse and on
foot, with swords and arrows, at at one point wearing nothing but a diaper.  
He also doesn't get along with his brother too well, is frustrated so takes a
woman from the village to his bed, and pisses just about everyone off.  But
Richard Boone plays like his nanny and if anybody messes with Chuck, Boone
hits them over the head with a club.  I know it sounds silly, but this movie
is actually really cool, although it, too, was butched in editing by its
studio.  Definately check it out.

Oh, damn!!!  I got to end it here.  Time has run out for me, but I'll be back
to finish Chuck off later -- I just gotta watch out for Richard Boone.  Oh
yeah, he's dead.

-- Rory




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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 5:06 PM

Subject: [pota] Charlton Heston -- Superstar!

Oh, My God!  Has it been over two weeks since my last installment of the
rundown of the films of Charlton "Chuck" "Chuckels" "Charlie Hero" Heston?

Have any of you been just pulling your hair out wondering when I'd get back
to this?

Probably not, but since we all seem to be in a 'new POTA trailer' hangover
here, I thought I'd try to wrap up my thoughts on the guy who's arguably the
greatest movie hero next to John Wayne, and a legend in his own mind, Chuck,
aka Mr. NRA.

With his latest movie appearance about to happen in a week (That would be
"Town & Country," folks.), let's go back to where I left off and then try to
cover all my favorite Chuck films since.  And boy, he sure did make ALOT of
them!

THE TEN COMMANDMENTS (1956)  Hey, did you see this just the other week?  It
was on ABC, I think because it was Easter, but more probably Passover, but I
passed it over after about five minutes.  Cecil B. DeMille's greatest epic is
just so corny and campy I can't take it.  I almost bought this movie on DVD,
but then I came to my senses, but hey, I suposed to be talking about Chuck
here.

So, he stars as Moses, the film's a big hit with the repressed people of '50s
USA, and Chuck's now the biggest thing in Hollywood since Jane Russell's
boobs (See a connection there?  Boobs -- Heston, Heston -- boobs?  No?  OK,
forget it.), and what is superstar Chuck's next film. . . . . . . . .

THREE VIOLENT PEOPLE (1956)  What the f**k!!!  Who the hell remembers this
movie?  Well, I do, though I wasn't born when it came out.  It's a western
about these three violent people, who get violent with each other, and it all
ends in violence.  Chuck plays this ex-Confederate, ex-captain guy who's
violent and he marries Anne Baxter, who played like his sister or girlfriend
or something in the last movie "The Ten Commandments," and she's sometimes
violent, but it mostly just involves slapping Chuck in the face, BUT Chuck's
got this brother, Tom Tryon, and he's missing an arm because when they were
kids like Chuck got it cut off, so now this brother is all pissed-off and
violent.  Believe it or not, Jamie Farr and Robert Blake are in it, too.  
They get violent, and Forrest Tucker is in it, too, and he gets violent.  In
fact, they should have callled this "Lots of Violent People."   It's no "Wild
Bunch," but for '56 I guess pretty violent.

TOUCH OF EVIL (1958)  More violence.  This is one of Chuck's best movies.  It
just recently got restored because the studio, Universal, hated it and cut it
in a way nobody has liked, except somebody at Universal, I guess.  It's a
pretty famous movie.  Chuck plays a Mexican in it.  It was a stretch for
Chuck to play a Mexican, so Chuck decided the best way to do it would be
without a Mexican accent.  Remember before that boob/Heston thing I brought
up before?  Anyway, Chuck had one really good idea for this movie, and that
was to have Orson Welles direct.  Welles directed the shit out of this movie,
and he looks like shit in it -- really bad.  If you've never seen this movie,
I'd try to see it because it's a good movie to see.

THE BIG COUNTRY (1958)  This is a not so good western movie.  It's big, it's
well-directed by William Wyler, it's got lots of stars in it, but it's not
that great -- though it has a great score.  Chuck's not really the star of
it, he's just one of them.  This is the movie LordTZero saw a while ago where
Gregory Peck plays this sea captain who travels out west to marry this girl
and ends up in a big fight with Chuck.  They kick the shit out of each other
for sure, but no one wins.  I think that's supposed to be the point of this
movie, but after the fight there's still like another hour of the movie to
go, so I guess it had more points to make, but they're lost on me.  I
actually like Berl Ives and Chuck Conners best in this movie.  They're this
father and son who head this White-trash bunch that live in the desert, AND
in fact, POTA fans, the patch of desert they have their ranch on is the same
piece of ground in Red Rock Canyon where Ursus' Army marched over in BENEATH.
 For that reason I recommend renting this movie, and for the Peck/Heston
fight -- it's good.

THE BUCCANEER (1958) This movie isn't good, in fact it's pretty bad and not
one of my favorites, but I bring it up (Ha!  Bring it up!  Get it?) because
it's the second movie where Chuck played Andrew Jackson.  He's an old "Old
Hickery" in this movie, and so wears a big, white wig and lots of makeup.  In
fact, he kind of looks dead in this movie.  Let's move on because the next
one is really good....

BEN-HUR (1959)  Alright!!!  YEEEE HAAAA!!!!! as Alex would say.  This is
prime Chuck here -- the movie he got his Oscar for.  The movie he likes best.
 Chuck's favorite.  I'm sure you've seen it, but did you know that the writer
Gore Vidal worked uncredited on the script, and that Gore Vidal is gay, and
that he sort of made the relationship between  Judah Ben-Hur and Messala kind
of 'suggestive'?  Well, when Judah and Messala, who were boyhood friends,
first see each other again as adults in this movie, it's looks like they're
REALLY glad to see one another -- Heston has tears in his eyes --, and the
first thing they do is grab their spears and 'chuck' 'em.  I don't know about
you, but it seems kind of gay to me.  Later, when Judah refuses to do what
Messala wants, Messala gets so pissed-off at Judah, he has him thrown in
chains and forced to row a boat with a lot of other, mostly naked guys.  Is
that gay, or what?  BUT don't tell Chuck this!  Heston goes absolutely
ape-shit when it's even brought up!   Chuck, Chuck, Chuck.... So Ben-Hur was
gay -- there's nothing wrong with that.  He still wins the chariot race.  
And, Chuck.... you're so handsome when you win the race, all sweaty and
everything.  Hey!!!  What the hell am I saying?

WRECK OF THE MARY DEARE (1959)  This movie is okay.  Chuck's just the co-star
next to Gary Cooper.  There's a wreck of a ship in it, the Mary Deare, hence
the title.  I haven't seen it in years.  Let's move on....

EL CID (1961)  Oh, boy!  Chuck's back in armour in this one, fighting the
Moors to save Spain.  He fights, he kill's Sophia Loren's dad, he fights, he
marries Sophia Loren, he fights, they have kids, he fights... you get the
picture.  It goes on for like three hours.  I think this is the movie that
put the pond in ponderous.  Chuck's such a goody, goody superhero in it that
I think he's kind of a stiff, in fact at the end he IS a stiff.  I'm not
kidding, he's a dead guy at the end of this movie -- he's still fighting, but
he's dead!   Check it out!

THE PIGEON THAT TOOK ROME (1962)  I only mention this one so you'll belive me
when I say that Chuck once made a movie called "The Pigeon That Took Rome."  
Otherwise, you can forget about this picture -- nearly everyone else on the
planet has.  Why should we be special?

DIAMOND HEAD (1962)  This is a movie set in Hawaii where Chuck is this
pineapple baron who's a bigot and when his sister, the lovely Yvette Mimieux
(YEEEE HAAAA!), decides she's going to marry a full-blooded Hawaiian native,
the lovely James Darren, Chuck starts shitting bricks.  Chuck is a real
bastard in this movie.  His character here makes Taylor look like a nice guy.
 Chuck's such a bastard in this one they should have called the movie
"Diamond DickHead,"  but they didn't.

55 DAYS AT PEKING (1962)  Chuck in China during the 1900 Boxer Rebellion.  He
stiffly plays a stiff-necked U.S. Marine who helps British ambassador, David
Niven, fight off Chinese guys out to kill all the foreigners they can find.  
This ponderous movie goes on for nearly three hours, but seems to last more
like 55 days, hence the title.

THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD (1965)  NOT the greatest movie ever made.  This
story about the life and death of somebody named Jesus Christ is so full of
cameos by nearly every 'star' in Hollywood that it's nearly impossible to
take its story seriously.  Chuck plays John the Baptist.  He's real hairy and
wears like a bear skin or something.  He sort of looks like a caveman.  He
also loses his head.  Roddy McDowall is also in this movie, and Sal Mineo,
but then I could name everyone who was anyone back then -- they were probably
in it.  The only reason for we POTA fans to look at this movie, besides Chuck
and Roddy, is that it was shot in Glen Canyon before it was flooded to make
Lake Powell -- where Chuck would crash his spaceship in another movie.  In
fact, the sets for this film are still supposed to be at the bottom of the
lake.  Perhaps Chuck's bearsuit is down there, too.

THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY (1965)  This film is about how Michelangelo and
Pope Julius II didn't get along, but how the Sistine Chapel got painted
anyway.  It's dull, but nicely photographed by Leon Shamroy, who would
photograph this other Chuck movie.  This is also the movie that Chuck likes
to remind us he played a genius in.  He reminds us and he reminds us.  What
he DOESN'T remind us is that Michelangelo was GAY!  He was GAAAAAYYYY!   Hear
me, Chuck?   Chuck don't like to hear that.

MAJOR DUNDEE (1965)  This is another Chuck Western, directed by Sam
Peckinpah, and co-starring Richard Harris and James Coburn.  I like this film
even though it's a mess that was butched in editing by its studio and has a
very annoying score, but Chuck is SOOOO Chuck in this film you gotta love it.
 They shot it in Mexico and Chuck tells the story that during filming he
waited in the front room of a cathouse while Peckinpah banged some teenage
prositute.  Can you imagine banging a postitute while Chuck waits for you
outside?  I can't watch this movie without thinking about that.

THE WAR LORD (1965)  Hey!!!  HEADS UP POTA FANS!  If you've never seen this
film, or never even heard of it, well, Where the hell have you been?  It's
directed by this guy named Franklin J. Schaffner, stars Chuck, co-stars
Maurice Evans, and even has Woodrow "Maximus" Parfrey in it.  Chuck plays
this Norman knight back in the 11th Century who has to defend this piece of
ground along the coast of what's now Belgium against Viking dudes.  Chuck has
a funny looking haircut in this one and fights Vikings on his horse and on
foot, with swords and arrows, at at one point wearing nothing but a diaper.  
He also doesn't get along with his brother too well, is frustrated so takes a
woman from the village to his bed, and pisses just about everyone off.  But
Richard Boone plays like his nanny and if anybody messes with Chuck, Boone
hits them over the head with a club.  I know it sounds silly, but this movie
is actually really cool, although it, too, was butched in editing by its
studio.  Definately check it out.

Oh, damn!!!  I got to end it here.  Time has run out for me, but I'll be back
to finish Chuck off later -- I just gotta watch out for Richard Boone.  Oh
yeah, he's dead.

-- Rory






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.html At 05:50 PM 4/21/01 -0700, you wrote:

 You forgot to mention one of Chuck's most popular films - - - What did you think of "Planet of the Apes"?  - - - Just Curious in Lompock

And don't forget "Wayne's World 2".  :-)

--

Brian C. Madsen

BCMadsen@...

(work: brian.madsen@...)

http://home.earthlink.net/~bcmadsen/

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THE PIGEON THAT TOOK ROME

Isn't that the one where Chuck and his bumbling canine sidekick Muttly
fly around in bi-planes trying "stop the pigeon"?

nab him, grab him, jab him , stab him..stop that pigeon noooowwww!

I'm sorry, I borrowed some of Michael's medication.

If you can't wait until the mag hits the stands, then check this out:

http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,107188~10~0~exclusivephotosfromnew,00.html"


You gotta love the pic of Roth and Duncan sitting in the chairs between
shots. Roth has his sunglasses on - kind of reminds me of the old photos or
Roddy and pals.

Matt

Thanks for the tip Matt, that was cool.
We don't get Ent. Weekly down here ( ecept at selected import magazine stores).
Best,
KEN

MTotsky@... wrote:

> If you can't wait until the mag hits the stands, then check this out:
>
> http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,107188~10~0~exclusivephotosfromnew,00.html"
>
> You gotta love the pic of Roth and Duncan sitting in the chairs between
> shots. Roth has his sunglasses on - kind of reminds me of the old photos or
> Roddy and pals.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>

Good pictures. But the magazine was out yesterday. I already read my copy.
Boy, those extras that had to run with their knuckles earned their
- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 8:26 PM
Subject: [pota] Entertainment Weekly Photos Online


> If you can't wait until the mag hits the stands, then check this out:
>
>
http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,107188~10~0~exclusivephotosfromnew,00.htm
l
>
>
> You gotta love the pic of Roth and Duncan sitting in the chairs between
> shots. Roth has his sunglasses on - kind of reminds me of the old photos
or
> Roddy and pals.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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I got my mag in the mail today. Loved it! I liked how Helenha Bonham Carter
was given a cigarette holder to smoke with just like the old scenes of
Maurice Evans smoking.

Loc

Hey,

You SOLD me that medication.....

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken & Heather Taylor [kentaylor@...]
Sent: Sunday, 22 April 2001 12:51
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Charlton Heston -- Superstar!

THE PIGEON THAT TOOK ROME

Isn't that the one where Chuck and his bumbling canine sidekick Muttly
fly around in bi-planes trying "stop the pigeon"?

nab him, grab him, jab him , stab him..stop that pigeon noooowwww!

I'm sorry, I borrowed some of Michael's medication.

There's a nicely designed tribute site to all things Mego called the Mego
Museum. For starters they are showing off a gold pendant made to commemorate
the 1,000,000th ape figure way back when. The son of the guy who ran Mego is
considering selling it.

www.toymania.com/megomuseum/maniacs/kabrams..htmlbr>
- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 8:26 PM
Subject: [pota] Entertainment Weekly Photos Online


> If you can't wait until the mag hits the stands, then check this out:
>
>
http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,107188~10~0~exclusivephotosfromnew,00.htm
l
>
>
> You gotta love the pic of Roth and Duncan sitting in the chairs between
> shots. Roth has his sunglasses on - kind of reminds me of the old photos
or
> Roddy and pals.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hey! I went to the Dark Horse website and used the Ape Name Generator. You
put in your name and it gives you an ape name. My name is Jikaker. Don't
wear it out.

- - - -
Jikaker

----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 8:26 PM
Subject: [pota] Entertainment Weekly Photos Online


> If you can't wait until the mag hits the stands, then check this out:
>
>
http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,107188~10~0~exclusivephotosfromnew,00.htm
l
>
>
> You gotta love the pic of Roth and Duncan sitting in the chairs between
> shots. Roth has his sunglasses on - kind of reminds me of the old photos
or
> Roddy and pals.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

In a message dated 4/21/01 10:27:40 PM Central Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:

<< You gotta love the pic of Roth and Duncan sitting in the chairs between
shots. Roth has his sunglasses on - kind of reminds me of the old photos or
Roddy and pals. >>

Yeah, I love that shot of Kim sitting in her chair reading a book on apes.

In a message dated 4/20/01 7:11:16 PM Central Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:

<< By the way, what is an "anamorphic picture transfer?" >>

anamorphic lens: A lens for making widescreen films using regular Academy
ratio frame size. The camera lens takes in a wide field of view and squeezes
it onto the frame, and a similar projector lens unsqueezes the image onto a
wide theater screen.

There ya go!

Yeah! The news program at E! showed the whole trailer (minus the Fox logo,
the stuff about Burton and the narration). I'm going to watch their "Coming
Attractions" program in 30 minutes to see if they show everything.

It's been great. See you guys next time. Welcome back, Brian! No more
automatic messages, please. Rory hates them
- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] The Proper DVD cover


> In a message dated 4/20/01 7:11:16 PM Central Daylight Time,
MTotsky@...
> writes:
>
> << By the way, what is an "anamorphic picture transfer?" >>
>
> anamorphic lens: A lens for making widescreen films using regular
Academy
> ratio frame size. The camera lens takes in a wide field of view and
squeezes
> it onto the frame, and a similar projector lens unsqueezes the image onto
a
> wide theater screen.
>
> There ya go!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Interesting article Jeff,
Thanks.
Boy, the 1,000,000th Ape mego. I think all of them but mine have shown up on Ebay in the last 4 years!

Jack Krueger wrote:

> There's a nicely designed tribute site to all things Mego called the Mego
> Museum. For starters they are showing off a gold pendant made to commemorate
> the 1,000,000th ape figure way back when. The son of the guy who ran Mego is
> considering selling it.
>
> www.toymania.com/megomuseum/maniacs/kabrams..htmlbr> >
> - - - - Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <MTotsky@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 8:26 PM
> Subject: [pota] Entertainment Weekly Photos Online
>
> > If you can't wait until the mag hits the stands, then check this out:
> >
> >
> http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,107188~10~0~exclusivephotosfromnew,00.htm
> l
> >
> >
> > You gotta love the pic of Roth and Duncan sitting in the chairs between
> > shots. Roth has his sunglasses on - kind of reminds me of the old photos
> or
> > Roddy and pals.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

http://www.glennshadix.com/newsimages/tim-mich-glenn-dan.gif

The orang is the heavyset interior decorator from Beetlejuice.

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>From: LordTZer0@...

>Subject: Re: [pota] How Often

>

><< Watching a video/DVD is a very personal experience, whereas watching a

>broadcast is more of a collective one. >>

>

>Yeah, that's why every parent should get their kid a radio. When they can't

>sleep, and put on some tunes, it comforting to know someone's awake spinning

>the discs.

>Mine was a blue Sony ball and chain. Loved that radio! My Brother had a

>yellow one. And a friend had the ring radio in red that twists open. But

>this isn't the 70s nostalgia group. It's those dang Whackypacks that got me

>started!

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Nice pick up on the ashtray, Alan. I wonder why Taylor didn't take the
stogie out of Julius' mouth when he escaped from the zoo? After all he'd been
through, you figure he could use a quick toke. John

.htmlIn a message dated 4/22/01 2:30:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
JSe3689836@... writes:

    Nice pick up on the ashtray, Alan. I wonder why Taylor didn't take the
stogie out of Julius' mouth when he escaped from the zoo? After all he'd
been
through, you figure he could use a quick toke.   John

What, and suck on gorilla spit?    Actually, about smoking in Taylor's ship.
. . . That was kind of dumb of the filmmakers -- in the oxygen-rich air of
the cabin the last thing you'd want to do is light a cigar.  I think Heston
was smoking that cigar in PLANET as a tribute to the director.  Franklin J.
Schaffner was always smoking cigars, which in the long run did him in.  He
died of throat cancer in 1989.

-- Rory

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.htmlI think it was Jeff K.  who said the new trailer was on E! News Weekend.

Well, it will be repeated Monday morning at 2 A.M. (or late Sunday night if
you prefer).   That's 2 A.M. EST.  Monday.

I'll set my VCR to record it and we'll see.  I watched E!'s Coming
Attractions yesterday and they didn't have it on.

I hope that the next issue of Total Movie magazine will have it on their DVD,
then I can get perfect freeze frames!   

-- Rory<.html

Bye guys... it's been fun.

Dave B

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>From: "Vanessa"

?

>Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 23:59:17 -0000

>

>Hello everybody,

>

>Is it o.k with you guys if I join this newsgroup. I can't believe I

>have stumbled upon you good people. Please let me introduce myself a

>little. My name is Vanessa, I'm in my early 30s, and I live in

>Virginia. I work as a freelance photographer (my dreams of becoming a

>scriptwriter put to bed when I got my tenth rejection letter!)and I

>am a fan of movies in general, both the classics and the not so

>classic (!), and POTA is without a doubt my all time favorite movie.

>

>I remember first seeing it some time in the mid-seventies. I first

>saw it, believe it or not, in Italy, in a tiny movie house in Trento

>not unlike the one in 'Cinema Paradiso'. It was dubbed, and I didn't

>speak Italian (still don't.)

>

>Needles to say, as all you newsgroup members will now, those first

>few frames blew me away (I am speaking of the crash landing and post-

>crash landing scenes, the exterior location shots.)

>

>There was something so incredibly haunting and powerful about those

>images, and I think that the impact of this movie must have shaped my

>own sense of aesthetic, for I often recognize elements of those first

>exterior scenes of POTA in my own photographic work (I shoot a lot in

>Arizona and Colorado if I can. I love the desert.)

>

>I eventually got around to seeing all the sequels (which I bought

>when they came out on DVD) and although I found them exciting as a

>child, I don't think they're too wonderful when I watch them today.

>They seem so 'cheesy' and somehow 'cheap', the pull on masks alone

>enough to give POTA a bad name (I hope I am not offending any of you

>good folk by discussing my feelings about the sequels. I am new here

>and maybe I should keep my opinions to myself until I get to know you

>all better.)

>

>That first viewing of POTA has never left me. That movie has always

>had a magical grip on my heart and my senses.

>

>Anybody out there feel the same way?

>

>I hope that we can keep up some kind of correspondece. I did not know

>that there were groups devoted to POTA, and I think it would be great

>if we could all share our experiences - our personal experiences -

>about the movie and what it has come to mean to us over the years.

>

>Vanessa

>

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                                               *Lynne*

>From: "Vanessa"

?

>Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 23:59:17 -0000

>

>Hello everybody,

>

>Is it o.k with you guys if I join this newsgroup. I can't believe I

>have stumbled upon you good people. Please let me introduce myself a

>little. My name is Vanessa, I'm in my early 30s, and I live in

>Virginia. I work as a freelance photographer (my dreams of becoming a

>scriptwriter put to bed when I got my tenth rejection letter!)and I

>am a fan of movies in general, both the classics and the not so

>classic (!), and POTA is without a doubt my all time favorite movie.

>

>I remember first seeing it some time in the mid-seventies. I first

>saw it, believe it or not, in Italy, in a tiny movie house in Trento

>not unlike the one in 'Cinema Paradiso'. It was dubbed, and I didn't

>speak Italian (still don't.)

>

>Needles to say, as all you newsgroup members will now, those first

>few frames blew me away (I am speaking of the crash landing and post-

>crash landing scenes, the exterior location shots.)

>

>There was something so incredibly haunting and powerful about those

>images, and I think that the impact of this movie must have shaped my

>own sense of aesthetic, for I often recognize elements of those first

>exterior scenes of POTA in my own photographic work (I shoot a lot in

>Arizona and Colorado if I can. I love the desert.)

>

>I eventually got around to seeing all the sequels (which I bought

>when they came out on DVD) and although I found them exciting as a

>child, I don't think they're too wonderful when I watch them today.

>They seem so 'cheesy' and somehow 'cheap', the pull on masks alone

>enough to give POTA a bad name (I hope I am not offending any of you

>good folk by discussing my feelings about the sequels. I am new here

>and maybe I should keep my opinions to myself until I get to know you

>all better.)

>

>That first viewing of POTA has never left me. That movie has always

>had a magical grip on my heart and my senses.

>

>Anybody out there feel the same way?

>

>I hope that we can keep up some kind of correspondece. I did not know

>that there were groups devoted to POTA, and I think it would be great

>if we could all share our experiences - our personal experiences -

>about the movie and what it has come to mean to us over the years.

>

>Vanessa

>

<.html

<< Now I know you guys are inside my head!!! I had one of those ball radio,
a white one...it came with stickers that you could put on it to make a face
out of the dials! In fact, and I won't admit it outside this group, I still
have the blasted thing!! And that it still works!! So there!! >>

Wow! I thought it was only me. Yeah, that was the radio I fell in love with
music on. Long before I had an FM stereo. Somthing about the audience of
the airwaves.

<< Nice pick up on the ashtray, Alan. I wonder why Taylor didn't take the
stogie out of Julius' mouth when he escaped from the zoo? After all he'd
been
through, you figure he could use a quick toke. >>

Yeah, when space travel is safe enough for a smoking section that's when I'll
try it. But I'll need to have some of the Russian vodka first.

<< Franklin J. Schaffner was always smoking cigars, which in the long run
did him in. He died of throat cancer in 1989.>>

Someone said something that made me think. Jim Fix wrote the book on
jogging, died of a heart attack. George Burns, cigar smoker, lived to a 100.
Makes you think.

<< Welcome Vanessa! I'm glad you found the group and look forward to your
observations. Feel free and jump on in and enjoy yourself! >>

We've been all through that.
Your buddy chased her off.
Come on Lynn. Get with the program.

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He would have smelled like a guy who smoked cigars for nearly a century.
I don't jog either.

LordTZer0@... wrote:

> << Franklin J. Schaffner was always smoking cigars, which in the long run
> did him in. He died of throat cancer in 1989.>>
>
> Someone said something that made me think. Jim Fix wrote the book on
> jogging, died of a heart attack. George Burns, cigar smoker, lived to a 100.
> Makes you think.
>
>
>
>
>