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Group: pota Message: 6703 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: TIME CORRECTION!
Group: pota Message: 6704 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: The Proper DVD cover
Group: pota Message: 6705 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: The Proper DVD cover
Group: pota Message: 6706 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: Jeffius
Group: pota Message: 6707 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: The Proper DVD cover
Group: pota Message: 6708 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: Charlton Heston -- Superstar!
Group: pota Message: 6709 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: The Proper DVD cover
Group: pota Message: 6710 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: The Proper DVD cover
Group: pota Message: 6711 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: POTA MP3
Group: pota Message: 6712 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Bad hair day
Group: pota Message: 6713 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: The Proper DVD cover
Group: pota Message: 6714 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: The Proper DVD cover
Group: pota Message: 6715 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: Jeffius
Group: pota Message: 6716 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
Group: pota Message: 6717 From: locutusatwolf359@aol.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
Group: pota Message: 6718 From: Shelby Rhodes Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
Group: pota Message: 6719 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
Group: pota Message: 6720 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
Group: pota Message: 6721 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: TV Show DVD Questions
Group: pota Message: 6722 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
Group: pota Message: 6723 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: TV Show Revisted
Group: pota Message: 6724 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Finally saw the Trailer
Group: pota Message: 6725 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Finally saw the Trailer
Group: pota Message: 6726 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: TV Show Revisted
Group: pota Message: 6727 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Finally saw the Trailer
Group: pota Message: 6728 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
Group: pota Message: 6729 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Finally saw the Trailer
Group: pota Message: 6730 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Exclusive preview: new Planet of the Apes trailer is NOW LIVE!
Group: pota Message: 6731 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Official Web Site
Group: pota Message: 6732 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Sorry gang delayed posts
Group: pota Message: 6733 From: Phil Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Can I download the trailer to my hard drive?
Group: pota Message: 6734 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Download Trailer
Group: pota Message: 6735 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: For Phil: Saving QuickTime Files
Group: pota Message: 6736 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Check out Ain't It Cool News - PLANET OF THE APES
Group: pota Message: 6737 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Is Brian Back Today?
Group: pota Message: 6738 From: Phil Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: For Phil: Saving QuickTime Files
Group: pota Message: 6739 From: Phil Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: TV Show Revisted
Group: pota Message: 6740 From: Brian Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: I know you all want to kick my arse!!!
Group: pota Message: 6741 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: I know you all want to kick my arse!!!
Group: pota Message: 6742 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Exclusive preview: new Planet of the Apes trailer is NOW LIVE!
Group: pota Message: 6743 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: They Screwed UP!
Group: pota Message: 6744 From: daniel225nma@hotmail.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Exclusive preview: new Planet of the Apes trailer is NOW LIVE!
Group: pota Message: 6745 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Is anyboy welcome here?
Group: pota Message: 6746 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Is anyboy welcome here?
Group: pota Message: 6747 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Is Brian Back Today?
Group: pota Message: 6748 From: Brian Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: I know you all want to kick my arse!!!
Group: pota Message: 6749 From: Brian Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Is Brian Back Today?
Group: pota Message: 6750 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: TV Show Revisted
Group: pota Message: 6751 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Marky Mark Spoof on POTA
Group: pota Message: 6752 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Ape Droppings
Group: pota Message: 6753 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Dear Teacher
Group: pota Message: 6754 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: More Lost Words of Franklin Schaffner
Group: pota Message: 6755 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
Group: pota Message: 6756 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
Group: pota Message: 6757 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: TV Show Revisted
Group: pota Message: 6758 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Ape Droppings
Group: pota Message: 6759 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: I know you all want to kick my arse!!!
Group: pota Message: 6760 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Is anyboy welcome here?
Group: pota Message: 6761 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: TV Show Revisted
Group: pota Message: 6762 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: TV Show Revisted
Group: pota Message: 6763 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Looking for Archives Chase Cards
Group: pota Message: 6764 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Augusta Summerland???
Group: pota Message: 6765 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: TV Show Revisted
Group: pota Message: 6766 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: TV Show Revisted
Group: pota Message: 6767 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: NEW POTA PRODUCTS
Group: pota Message: 6768 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: POTA promotional dark horse extra with poster
Group: pota Message: 6769 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
Group: pota Message: 6770 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
Group: pota Message: 6771 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Hari Rhodes
Group: pota Message: 6772 From: Brian Penikas Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Caesar statue
Group: pota Message: 6773 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Medicoms Reviewed
Group: pota Message: 6774 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Hari Rhodes
Group: pota Message: 6775 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
Group: pota Message: 6776 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
Group: pota Message: 6777 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
Group: pota Message: 6778 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
Group: pota Message: 6779 From: Mez Downes Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Heads up for UK fans
Group: pota Message: 6780 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
Group: pota Message: 6781 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
Group: pota Message: 6782 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Hari Rhodes
Group: pota Message: 6783 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
Group: pota Message: 6784 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
Group: pota Message: 6785 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Coupla' POTA Refs
Group: pota Message: 6786 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
Group: pota Message: 6787 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Coupla' POTA Refs
Group: pota Message: 6788 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
Group: pota Message: 6789 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: POTA on "That '70s Show"
Group: pota Message: 6790 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
Group: pota Message: 6791 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Group: pota Message: 6792 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: Air & Leo love scene
Group: pota Message: 6793 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: female gorilla
Group: pota Message: 6794 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/24/2001
Subject: Re: I'll be blown......
Group: pota Message: 6795 From: Kay53531@aol.com Date: 4/25/2001
Subject: planet of apes and THE MONKEES in 2001
Group: pota Message: 6796 From: locutusatwolf359@aol.com Date: 4/25/2001
Subject: Re: planet of apes and THE MONKEES in 2001
Group: pota Message: 6797 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/25/2001
Subject: Re: the Conclusion
Group: pota Message: 6798 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/25/2001
Subject: Re: the Conclusion
Group: pota Message: 6799 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/25/2001
Subject: Re: the Conclusion
Group: pota Message: 6800 From: daniel225nma@hotmail.com Date: 4/25/2001
Subject: Re: Heads up for UK fans
Group: pota Message: 6801 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/25/2001
Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
Group: pota Message: 6802 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/25/2001
Subject: Re: I'll be blown......



Group: pota Message: 6703 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: TIME CORRECTION!
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10:30 pm pst
12:30 pm gmt
2:30 am est
 
Best,
 
Alex
 
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Group: pota Message: 6704 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: The Proper DVD cover
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Rory wrote:
>I hate the 30th Anniversary PLANET cover so much that as soon as the DVD
came
>out last August, I had a new cover all ready. Here's the DVD cover for
>PLANET I had done for me on a computer using the original posters.

Rory, that cover is excellent. You'd have inspired me to try my hand at it
myself, except that (a) I don't have a DVD player or the DVD set anyway, and
(b) I'm just too lazy.

Top notch effort though. If only you had a job at Fox.

Alan
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Group: pota Message: 6705 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: The Proper DVD cover
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Rory wrote:
>I've looked at the trailer a couple more times now and I'm sort of bothered
>by something....
>
>What's bothering me is that the actor's wearing the ape makeup have no chin
>appliances. Although the makeups look great, now I'm seeing that they're
all
>photographed from above so you don't see how they've just got appliances on
>their noses.


The latest thing to bother me is that one of the female ape characters (I
don't know which one, I've been trying to avoid all the coverage) has a
rather silly hairstyle. It's like a Toyah-style 80s effort. Bizarre.

Bring back the Zira look!

Alan
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Group: pota Message: 6706 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: Jeffius
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Jeff Krueger <williejoe@...> wrote:
> Hey! I went to the Dark Horse website and used the Ape Name Generator.
You
>put in your name and it gives you an ape name. My name is Jikaker. Don't
>wear it out.


Just had a look at it myself...

I am Atmel. Bow your heads.


Atmel
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Group: pota Message: 6707 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: The Proper DVD cover
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<LordTZer0@...> wrote:
>anamorphic lens: A lens for making widescreen films using regular Academy
>ratio frame size. The camera lens takes in a wide field of view and
squeezes
>it onto the frame, and a similar projector lens unsqueezes the image onto a
>wide theater screen.


So how does that relate to DVD and TV then? What's a non-anamorphic transfer
compared to an anamorphic one?

Alan
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Group: pota Message: 6708 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: Charlton Heston -- Superstar!
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Rory,

These run-downs of Heston's films are quite interesting, but promise me
you'll stop before you reach "Solar Crisis".

Alan
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Group: pota Message: 6709 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: The Proper DVD cover
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.htmlIn a message dated 4/22/01 6:55:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
alan@... writes:


The latest thing to bother me is that one of the female ape characters (I
don't know which one, I've been trying to avoid all the coverage) has a
rather silly hairstyle. It's like a Toyah-style 80s effort. Bizarre.

Bring back the Zira look!

Alan


Yeah, I know what you mean.  I think Ari and the other one played by Lisa
Maria kind of look like Michael Jackson.  They could be a major distraction
in the film.

-- Rory


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Group: pota Message: 6710 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: The Proper DVD cover
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.htmlIn a message dated 4/22/01 6:55:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
alan@... writes:


>anamorphic lens:   A lens for making widescreen films using regular Academy
>ratio frame size.  The camera lens takes in a wide field of view and
squeezes
>it onto the frame, and a similar projector lens unsqueezes the image onto a
>wide theater screen.


So how does that relate to DVD and TV then? What's a non-anamorphic transfer
compared to an anamorphic one?

Alan


Alright, let me try to clear this up for everyone.  There is no true
'anamorphic' process going on with DVDs that are 'anamorphic.'  It's only
called that because if you play it back in that mode on your DVD player, the
picture will looked squeezed on a regular TV.

You see there are now TVs that have aspect ratios called 16X9.  They are
wider than regular televisions and they're all over Europe and Japan now, but
are just getting to the States.

Anyway, DVDs that are in 'anamorphic,' or the better term 'enhanced for
16X9,' have encoded picture information that makes it possible for them to be
properly viewed on these 16x9 TV sets.  These TV also have progessive scan
capabilities which increase the horizontal resolution by interlacing the scan
lines.

In this way with a DVD enhanced for 16X9, and a 16X9 TV monitor, or a
rear-prjection, or front-projection, 16X9 display, you can see the films in
greater detail and purer color using componet red, green, and blue inputs.   
DVDs that are NOT enhanced for 16X9 when played on these wider TVs don't have
the improved resolution -- like that current APES DVDs.

Have you all got that?!!!    If you'd like a TV system like this be prepared
at the present time to spend thousands of dollars.

By the way, those of you who own DVDs have DVDs that are enhanced for 16X9,
you've probably just haven't bothered to read the little writing on the back
that tells you so.

-- Rory



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Group: pota Message: 6711 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: POTA MP3
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Trailer B Master Mix!
 
Enjoy,
 
Alex
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Group: pota Message: 6712 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Bad hair day
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<< The latest thing to bother me is that one of the female ape characters (I
don't know which one, I've been trying to avoid all the coverage) has a
rather silly hairstyle. It's like a Toyah-style 80s effort. Bizarre.

Bring back the Zira look! >>

I'm with you on this one Al. That was a great look!
What the hell possessed them to go for these looks . . . Satan?
They could have done a much better job on the hair styles.
It reminds me of the awful towel dried ratty look popularized
by MTV VJ Nina Blackwood! Yuck! There's many a gal I might have like if she
hadn't made herself unattractive with a bad hairstyle. I hate to be
superficial...but girls do it all the time, so what the hell. Don't think
so? A rockstar friend of mine had all the action he could handle until he
cut his blonde dreadlocks off. Looking like a regular Joe he couldn't get
the time of day.
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Group: pota Message: 6713 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: The Proper DVD cover
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In a message dated 4/22/01 5:55:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
alan@... writes:

<< that cover is excellent. You'd have inspired me to try my hand at it
myself, >>

What cover? Where?
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Group: pota Message: 6714 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: The Proper DVD cover
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<< So how does that relate to DVD and TV then? What's a non-anamorphic
transfer
compared to an anamorphic one? >>

Correct me if I'm wrong someone. I should study more for my film class. But
those damn essays take a big chunk of my time. I believe that it goes
something like this.
There are a number of ways they do a windscreen. The 70 mm is very popular.
IMAX is great but very expensive. I believe it uses the 70 mm but the film
but is laid on it's side so they can make the print even wider. Anamorphic
uses standard 35 mm film. The frame is shrunk with an anamorphic lens when
shot and then expanded with another when projected. When they transfer a
film to video or DVD they use the same process. However a non-anamorphic
transfer is either done from the windscreen projection either that or they
can cheat by just putting black borders at the top and bottom to give it a
windscreen look.
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Group: pota Message: 6715 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: Jeffius
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In a message dated 4/22/01 5:56:36 PM Central Daylight Time,
alan@... writes:

<< I am Atmel. Bow your heads.

Atmel >>

How about a link Atmel
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Group: pota Message: 6716 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
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I just belatedly welcome you in, Vanessa, and now you're talking about leaving!!  Don't let this person deny you the fun you'll have on the list.  I haven't scanned any further on my email to see if this has been taken care of or not...we've never had this problem before that I know of...and you aren't the only female on the list.  Please reconsider!!

                                      *Lynne*

>From: JSe3689836@...
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [pota] I'm sorry.
>Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:16:25 EDT
>
> Geez, Vanessa, I'm sorry to hear about this. Don't let some idiot sour
>you on this group. John
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Group: pota Message: 6717 From: locutusatwolf359@aol.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
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Vanessa has been gone for about a week or two.

Loc
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Group: pota Message: 6718 From: Shelby Rhodes Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
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Yeah Lynne. You're answering emails from about eleven days back :)


----- Original Message -----
From: <locutusatwolf359@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] I'm sorry.


> Vanessa has been gone for about a week or two.
>
> Loc
>
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>
>
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Group: pota Message: 6719 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
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<< I just belatedly welcome you in, Vanessa, and now you're talking about
leaving!! Don't let this person deny you the fun you'll have on the list. I
haven't scanned any further on my email to see if this has been taken care of
or not...we've never had this problem before that I know of...and you aren't
the only female on the list. Please reconsider!! >>

I told you Lynn, she's audi 5K. She doesn't even answer e-mails anymore.
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Group: pota Message: 6720 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
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In a message dated 4/22/01 11:37:49 PM, slave1@... writes:

<<Yeah Lynne. You're answering emails from about eleven days back :)>>

The POTA list has aged two weeks, but Lynne has aged hardly at all.....


Matt
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Group: pota Message: 6721 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: TV Show DVD Questions
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If and when the TV show gets released on DVD, what kind of extras can they
throw on there? The episodes I saw recently were taped off of the Sci-Fi
Channel and had short intros by Roddy McDowell, talking about the Galen
character, etc, so I guess they could include that. I seem to remember Roddy
appearing on a TV show (Carol Burnett?) in the 70s in full ape regalia, so
that would be cool to see again. And of course there is the legendary "Aged
Galen" footage that everyone talks about but no one has a copy of.

Interviews and commentary by James Naughton, Ron Harper and Booth Coleman
would be nice. I always wondered why Naughton was the only one from the show
in BEHIND. I figure Harper and Coleman are cool with the show since they both
sell autographs on the Time Machine site (Naughton does not). Does anyone
have any insight as to what these three are up to now and what kind of
memories they have of the show?

It would also be cool to see some outtakes, commercials for the show, and
that type of stuff, but somehow I think that the DVDs (and the videos for
that matter) will be a relatively cheap and slapped together affair without
any extras. Does anyone else have any ideas?

Matt
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Group: pota Message: 6722 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
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In a message dated 4/22/01 11:58:40 PM, LordTZer0@... writes:

<<I told you Lynn, she's audi 5K. She doesn't even answer e-mails anymore.>>

It's like she never existed!

Matt
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Group: pota Message: 6723 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: TV Show Revisted
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Awhile back I wrote a lengthy email entitled "What Would You Do?" that
basically was my Fantasy Island approach about how I would rework the whole
POTA film series given a chance (I think four people here read it).

Anyways, someone asked (I think it was Ken) what I would do for the TV series
in a similar situation (total creative control, etc). Well, here's what I
would do:

First of all, I would schedule it on a decent night to give it a chance. I'm
not sure what the TV schedule was like back then, but I'm sure a decent time
slot could be found where this show would shine.

In my last email, I recast a lot (see how that works Jeff?) of the parts
(Robert DeNiro as Aldo, Richard Dreyfuss as Caesar, etc). For the series I
would not recast any of the main roles. I quite like the performances. I
think Ron Harper was perfect as the steady, determined Alan Virdon. James
Naughton was also good was the carefree Peter Burke. I would also bring back
Roddy McDowell (he has since forgiven me for the whole Dreyfuss incident) to
add a little credibilty to the cast. Booth Coleman and Mark Lenard would also
be brought back in their semi-starring roles. Perhaps I could get some of the
bigger television stars of the day to make cameos and guest appearances
(McLean Stevenson as Galen's uncle......nah....just kidding).

As far as the episodes go, I won't be giving any lengthy plot summaries, but
I would like to see the series work more as a cohesive unit. For instance,
the disc that Virdon was so desperate to retrieve, would be an actual plot
device for further episodes down the road. Also, each episode would less like
"The Fugitive" (as Naughton put it in BEHIND), and flow from episode to
episode

One thing that kind of bugged me about the original series is how Virdon and
Burke were experts at everything. I can buy into the fact that Virdon knew a
lot about farming and Burke knew morse code, but to have them be experts at
curing malaria, fighting poison gas, building a hang glider, etc. was a bit
too much. Is there anything these guys couldn't do? I guess what I am saying
is that I would make them a bit more human.

To launch the series, I would have a two-hour television movie that tied
directly into the POTA film series. In the pilot, Virdon and Burke would be
seen training in ANSA facilities with Taylor, Dodge, Landon and Stewart (all
the original actors, including Chuck, would reprise their film roles). In
this movie, it would be learned that Virdon was the original choice to
command Taylor's colonization mission, but he declined because of his
commitment to his family (setting up further character development down the
road).

Then, after Taylor never made contact with ANSA, Virdon, Burke and the other
astronaut (his name escapes me) would be dispatched on a rescue mission (if
you recall, my original sequel to POTA did away with Brent and his mission)
to find Taylor and his crew. Something goes wrong during Virdon and Burke's
flight and they are forced off 800 light years off of Taylor's trajectory.
They land on the POTA (the same place Taylor did, only 800 years earlier).
The series evolves from this point, much like it originally did.

After a successful run on primetime (10 years) the series would eventually
run it's course. The 2 hour finale would finally find Virdon and Burke
discovering a way to get home (that disc really came in handy). When they
arrive back, it is now 20 years later Earth time (taking place directly after
the events of my version of BATTLE). Virdon and Burke are shocked to find
find that Earth is now overun by apes (much like Merou was in the novel). The
series would end that way, with the pair faced with a new plight to find a
way to survive on the PLANET OF THE APES.

So...that's what I would do. What would you do?

Matt
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Group: pota Message: 6724 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/22/2001
Subject: Finally saw the Trailer
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OK, I finally downloaded the trailer (it was a busy weekend).

All I can say is this movie looks like it's going to kick some serious ass!

I like the shots of the Apes running on all fours (kind of like Boulle's
novel).

I love Apes! I love Burton! Can July 27 get here any quicker???

Matt
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Group: pota Message: 6725 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Finally saw the Trailer
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Yeah, I finally saw the ET footage. Lookin' good.
I concur w/ the comments about the female chimps but we'll just have to see if it works in the finished product.
I wonder if there are female gorillas and orangs in this one?
Best,
KEN

MTotsky@... wrote:

> OK, I finally downloaded the trailer (it was a busy weekend).
>
> All I can say is this movie looks like it's going to kick some serious ass!
>
> I like the shots of the Apes running on all fours (kind of like Boulle's
> novel).
>
> I love Apes! I love Burton! Can July 27 get here any quicker???
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 6726 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: TV Show Revisted
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Thanks Matt,
More great ideas. Gee, where were you when they were making this series in the first place? You could have been the first pre-teen TV
executive.
A 10 year run, huh? That's optimistic. That would have taken us up to '84. Cyndi Lauper could have played Galen's love interest and Joan
Collins and Linda Evans could have played their respective In-laws.
I'm not taking the piss, Matt, I'm just being silly.
Anyhow, further to your concept I probably would have taken Galen back w/ the astronauts ( incidentally the third one was called Jones)
where he would have to struggle with becoming another catalyst for further ape domination or remaining loyal to his human buddies.
Best,
KEN
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Group: pota Message: 6727 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Finally saw the Trailer
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<< Yeah, I finally saw the ET footage. Lookin' good. I concur w/ the comments
about the female chimps but we'll just have to see if it works in the
finished product.
I wonder if there are female gorillas and orangs in this one? >>

Yeah, E! News showed the full trailer. It gave a much better idea of it then
the shorter ET trailer, but still, I learned a long time ago . . . Never
judge a flick by it's trailer.

As for the chimpettes, Why looky there! Nina Blackwood and Janet Jackson on
the Planet of the Apes! I'll say this. It's no Zira style, but it is a big
step up from that stupid Bo Derek look they had her in. That was just
hideous!
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Group: pota Message: 6728 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
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LordTZer0@... writes:


I told you Lynn, she's audi 5K.  She doesn't even answer e-mails anymore.



T, that's because she wasn't for real.  It was a put-on.

-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 6729 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Finally saw the Trailer
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.htmlIn a message dated 4/23/01 12:55:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:


OK, I finally downloaded the trailer (it was a busy weekend).

All I can say is this movie looks like it's going to kick some serious ass!

I like the shots of the Apes running on all fours (kind of like Boulle's
novel).

I love Apes! I love Burton! Can July 27 get here any quicker???

Matt



I just played back my recording of the trailer off E! News Weekend from last
night....

What's with the rock music when the ship crash-lands?   I hope Elfman's score
is better than that!  

-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 6730 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Exclusive preview: new Planet of the Apes trailer is NOW LIVE!
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.htmlIn a message dated 4/23/01 8:00:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
pota1atmailtrack.com@... writes:


PLANET OF THE APES will be released nationwide in the UK on August 17 and
is already one of the year's most talked about movies.


I got this from the UK Fox site.  So, I guess the Brits have to wait a little
longer.  When does it open downunder?

-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 6731 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Official Web Site
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I have a funny feeling I'll see it on ET's rerun at 2:00 AM before I'll see it on the Official Site.
 
hehehe!!!
Man this is SAD!!
 
Best,
 
Alex
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Group: pota Message: 6732 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Sorry gang delayed posts
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Sorry about the delayed posts.
It almost gives you that feeling of no longer posting.
 
Best,
 
Alex
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Group: pota Message: 6733 From: Phil Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Can I download the trailer to my hard drive?
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Having trouble playing it from the site. Is there a URL where I can
save the trailer to my hard drive?
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Group: pota Message: 6734 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Download Trailer
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Having trouble playing it from the site.  Is there a URL where I can
save the trailer to my hard drive?
 
 
Go to Latest news. There you have all the trailer sizes Phil.
Direct from the source itself.
 
Best,
 
Alex
 
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Group: pota Message: 6735 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: For Phil: Saving QuickTime Files
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Once you download a Quick Time File.
Go to your Internet Memory Files: (In your "Windows" Directory)
 
There you will find it in your systems memory.
Copy it to an active directory in your computer, and wala, you have the Trailer.
 
Works like a charm!
 
Best,
 
Alex
 
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Group: pota Message: 6736 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Check out Ain't It Cool News - PLANET OF THE APES
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.htmlClick here: Ain't It Cool News - PLANET OF THE APES

Hey,

You guys here should check out the 'Talk Back' at Ain't-it-Cool-News about
the new trailer.  Think things get rude here?  No way!

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 6737 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Is Brian Back Today?
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If so, why don't we all welcome him back by flooding his email box with 53
emails each about what we will personally be doing over the next four days?

Matt
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Group: pota Message: 6738 From: Phil Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: For Phil: Saving QuickTime Files
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--- In pota@y..., "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@h...> wrote:
> Once you download a Quick Time File.
> Go to your Internet Memory Files: (In your "Windows" Directory)
>
> There you will find it in your systems memory.
> Copy it to an active directory in your computer, and wala, you have
the Trailer.
>
> Works like a charm!

That's what I used to do, was not able to make it work thi stime.

Ah, well. Found it on Aint it Cool and viewed a couple times.
Trailer was interesting, I'm still in wait and see mode . . .




possible spoilers . . .






But the trailer confirms that the rusty piece of crap sticking out of
the sand is NOT Leo's ship, since he has a water landing. Hmm.
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Group: pota Message: 6739 From: Phil Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: TV Show Revisted
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--- In pota@y..., MTotsky@a... wrote:

> First of all, I would schedule it on a decent night to give it a
chance. I'm
> not sure what the TV schedule was like back then, but I'm sure a
decent time
> slot could be found where this show would shine.

It had its ass handed to it by Sanford & Son.

Or was it Chico and the Man?

Or both?
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Group: pota Message: 6740 From: Brian Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: I know you all want to kick my arse!!!
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I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sorry that the auto responder bombarded you folks all weekend long. I should have
disconnected from the webgroup, but of course the thought had never entered my mind that such a thing would happen.

Sorry for the huge inconvenience. It will never happen again.

Brian Penikas
Apemania.com

MTotsky@... wrote:

> If so, why don't we all welcome him back by flooding his email box with 53
> emails each about what we will personally be doing over the next four days?
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 6741 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: I know you all want to kick my arse!!!
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Actually, I thought it was pretty funny. It was cracking me up.

So....how did the show go? We want details!

Matt
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Group: pota Message: 6742 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Exclusive preview: new Planet of the Apes trailer is NOW LIVE!
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.html Opens here August 9.

Haristas@... wrote:

In a message dated 4/23/01 8:00:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
pota1atmailtrack.com@... writes:
 
PLANET OF THE APES will be released nationwide in the UK on August 17 and
is already one of the year's most talked about movies.
 

I got this from the UK Fox site.  So, I guess the Brits have to wait a little
longer.  When does it open downunder?

-- Rory
 


Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

 
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Group: pota Message: 6743 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: They Screwed UP!
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2:30 AM is Eastern Standard Time!!!
 
Take a good look at that Trailer Banner!
 
hehehehe!!!
That's it! Thier fired!
 
2:30? Just in time after I see the rerun of E.T.!
 
BOW YOUR HEAD official site, God what a bummer!
 
Best,
 
Alex
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Group: pota Message: 6744 From: daniel225nma@hotmail.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Exclusive preview: new Planet of the Apes trailer is NOW LIVE!
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--- In pota@y..., Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@w...> wrote:
> Opens here August 9.
>
> Haristas@a... wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 4/23/01 8:00:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > pota1atmailtrack.com@t... writes:
> >
> >
> >> PLANET OF THE APES will be released nationwide in the UK on
August
> >> 17 and
> >> is already one of the year's most talked about movies.
> >
> >
> >
> > I got this from the UK Fox site. So, I guess the Brits have to
wait a
> > little
> > longer. When does it open downunder?
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
> >
> >
> [Click Here!]
YIKES !!! I can't wait until 17th August before it opens in the
UK, time to tell the girlfriend we,re going on an unexpected summer
weekend shopping trip to The Big Apple.

Dan
>
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
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Group: pota Message: 6745 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Is anyboy welcome here?
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Welcome Vanessa!  I'm glad you found the group and look forward to your observations.  Feel free and jump on in and enjoy yourself!             

                                               *Lynne*

>From: "Vanessa"
?
>Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 23:59:17 -0000
>
>Hello everybody,
>
>Is it o.k with you guys if I join this newsgroup. I can't believe I
>have stumbled upon you good people. Please let me introduce myself a
>little. My name is Vanessa, I'm in my early 30s, and I live in
>Virginia. I work as a freelance photographer (my dreams of becoming a
>scriptwriter put to bed when I got my tenth rejection letter!)and I
>am a fan of movies in general, both the classics and the not so
>classic (!), and POTA is without a doubt my all time favorite movie.
>
>I remember first seeing it some time in the mid-seventies. I first
>saw it, believe it or not, in Italy, in a tiny movie house in Trento
>not unlike the one in 'Cinema Paradiso'. It was dubbed, and I didn't
>speak Italian (still don't.)
>
>Needles to say, as all you newsgroup members will now, those first
>few frames blew me away (I am speaking of the crash landing and post-
>crash landing scenes, the exterior location shots.)
>
>There was something so incredibly haunting and powerful about those
>images, and I think that the impact of this movie must have shaped my
>own sense of aesthetic, for I often recognize elements of those first
>exterior scenes of POTA in my own photographic work (I shoot a lot in
>Arizona and Colorado if I can. I love the desert.)
>
>I eventually got around to seeing all the sequels (which I bought
>when they came out on DVD) and although I found them exciting as a
>child, I don't think they're too wonderful when I watch them today.
>They seem so 'cheesy' and somehow 'cheap', the pull on masks alone
>enough to give POTA a bad name (I hope I am not offending any of you
>good folk by discussing my feelings about the sequels. I am new here
>and maybe I should keep my opinions to myself until I get to know you
>all better.)
>
>That first viewing of POTA has never left me. That movie has always
>had a magical grip on my heart and my senses.
>
>Anybody out there feel the same way?
>
>I hope that we can keep up some kind of correspondece. I did not know
>that there were groups devoted to POTA, and I think it would be great
>if we could all share our experiences - our personal experiences -
>about the movie and what it has come to mean to us over the years.
>
>Vanessa
>
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Group: pota Message: 6746 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Is anyboy welcome here?
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.htmlIn a message dated 4/23/01 5:45:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
cosmicraye@... writes:


Welcome Vanessa!  I'm glad you found the group and look forward to your
observations.  Feel free and jump on in and enjoy yourself!              


                                              *Lynne*


Mr. President, a word of explanation. . . . .

*Lynne* works at a job that keeps her very busy and so she doesn't often get
to her computer.  When she does she often has a week or two of postings from
this group and others to get through.  The last time I had an e-mail from
her, she had over 1200 postings from this group!

So, she's a couple weeks behind and will probably always be so.

Let's please cut her some slack.

-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 6747 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: Is Brian Back Today?
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.htmlIn a message dated 4/23/01 3:27:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:


If so, why don't we all welcome him back by flooding his email box with 53
emails each about what we will personally be doing over the next four days?

Matt



Matt,

Don't be so mean.  Brian and his bunch probably have all that foam latex to
unpack, costums to put back under lock and key, greasepaint to get out of
their pours, and brown fingernail polish to get off.

-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 6748 From: Brian Date: 4/23/2001
Subject: Re: I know you all want to kick my arse!!!
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Attachments :
    .html The show was AWESOME!!!  The apes blew everybody away!  We had a blast.  Good things will come of it all.

    Sorry again for the bombardment of autoresponders.

    Brian

    MTotsky@... wrote:

    Actually, I thought it was pretty funny. It was cracking me up.

    So....how did the show go? We want details!

    Matt

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    Group: pota Message: 6749 From: Brian Date: 4/23/2001
    Subject: Re: Is Brian Back Today?
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    Haristas@... wrote:

     

    Matt,

    Don't be so mean.  Brian and his bunch probably have all that foam latex to
    unpack, costums to put back under lock and key, greasepaint to get out of
    their pours, and brown fingernail polish to get off.

    -- Rory


    "Greasepaint?!!!"  Bite your tongue , woman!

    B

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    Group: pota Message: 6750 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
    Subject: Re: TV Show Revisted
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    .htmlMatt,

    One of the things I'd love to change with the TV show is the humans being
    civilized.  I liked them better as they were in the original book and film --
    animals!   I also don't like it when they're called "humans."   Is it just
    me, or does saying things like, "Kill all the humans!"  or "It's always those
    'humans' that ruin everything!"  sound a little silly?   I think John
    Travolta proved that in the dreadful "Battlefield Earth."

    Remember in the first film Dr. Zaius would say things like "Man is a
    nuisance" or "Man has no understanding" or "I have always known about man."   
    Think how sillier it would sound if instead of "man" he'd said "human."   
    What if it was "Beware the beasts called Humans"?   BLAHHHH!!!!   Man is,
    like, Man, it's just so much cooler!

    So, that's one thing I'd do.  Also, it would have made the television show so
    much more interesting if every week the astronauts were forced to humiliate
    themselves by having to act like animals in order not to get killed or
    something.  You also could have had so many great scenes of apes being
    shocked when these astronauts spoke.

    And, since "men" are animals, the fugitives would travel from village to
    village and meet... APES!!!   There were far too many episodes that were
    mostly about "humans."  BLAAAAHHHHH!!!!!

    The only men I care about in such a show are the astronauts.  And you also
    could have had some fun with the 'female' man animals getting crushes on the
    astronauts.  And the astronauts saying like, "Oh well, what the hell!"

    Another thing I would have done with the show is reintroduced the "Forbidden
    Zone." (How much I would have loved to have seen them film something in a
    desert setting on the TV show.)   And, I'd have had some adventures in it,
    entire episodes or series of episodes.  All sorts of odd ape tribes, -- and,
    yes, maybe even crazy 'human' ones, perhaps dare I say "mutants"? -- could
    have been introduced.   You could have had apes that came from an area they
    called "Vagas" or something, or apes that spoke of a vast 'canyon' deep in
    the Forbidden Zone (the Grand Canyon).

    I also would have made Zaius and Urko smarter, especially Urko.  There would
    have been none of this stuff with them not understanding things or having
    stupid ideas about the way things were.  They would have had access to the
    'secret' scared scrolls, and so I'd have always given hints that they knew
    more than they were saying and that they were very sly and, therefore,
    dangerous.  Often shows such as this are only as good as their villains, and
    you have to admit that Zaius and Urko weren't very good villians.

    I also would have given orders to the writers that they were to write to
    ADULTS, and to take a serious approach at all times to the material.  I think
    in that way the POTA TV show would have been much better.

    Also a different night than Friday for the telecasts would have been nice,
    too.

    Well, Matt, you asked.  "So how does it taste?"

    -- Rory


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    Group: pota Message: 6751 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 4/23/2001
    Subject: Marky Mark Spoof on POTA
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    Starring Genearal THADE!
    2.2 megs and about 2:30 minutes long.
     
    Enjoy,
     
    Alex
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    Group: pota Message: 6752 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
    Subject: Ape Droppings
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    Hey everbody, been out and about this weekend. Just catching up on the
    posts. Damn, you people been busy! Saw the new trailer. Couldn't help but
    think of Spartacus. So I guess they're gonna be house servants? I dunno about
    that. I think Tim Roth is going to be great. Way over the top. Just hope the
    good top. HBC looks like Chaka from Land of the Lost. I don't know yet about
    Wahlberg. And it's good to see Linda again. Overall the trailer gives a feel
    of menace dashed humor. Gotta be careful with that. Could go either way. But
    love that leapin'! Just hope they don't overdo it. Back to the posts, John
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    Group: pota Message: 6753 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
    Subject: Re: Dear Teacher
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    Got that right. Looks like Fox will screw up another free breakfast.
    John
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    Group: pota Message: 6754 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
    Subject: Re: More Lost Words of Franklin Schaffner
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    Aborigine?
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    Group: pota Message: 6755 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
    Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
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    Damn Haslien Curve!!! John
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    Group: pota Message: 6756 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
    Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
    .html
    .htmlIn a message dated 4/23/01 9:19:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    JSe3689836@... writes:



        Damn Haslien Curve!!!  John


    John,

    It's spelled 'Hasslein.'    Also, you need to let us know what it is you're
    responding too.

    Other than that, how's things on the Island?

    -- Rory

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    Group: pota Message: 6757 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
    Subject: Re: TV Show Revisted
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    I love your ideas Rory, combined with mine I think we could have had a hit
    instead of a cult classic!

    Matt (who still loves the show anyway)
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    Group: pota Message: 6758 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
    Subject: Re: Ape Droppings
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    In a message dated 4/23/01 8:39:24 PM, JSe3689836@... writes:

    <<Tim Roth is going to be great. Way over the top. Just hope the
    good top. HBC looks like Chaka from Land of the Lost. I don't know yet about
    Wahlberg. >>

    I think Wahlberg will be great. He is always good as a character that is in a
    foreign situation, a bit over his head (Boogie Nights, Three Kings). I think
    he should have gotten an Oscar for Boogie Nights, but he wasn't even
    nominated.

    By the way, did everyone hear the recent quote from Wahlberg when he was
    asked about taking over for Heston as the lead human in POTA. Wahlberg
    replied (and I'm paraphrasing here) "Well I may have been Dirk Diggler, but
    that's still a pretty big loincloth to fill). LOL!

    Matt

    Matt
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    Group: pota Message: 6759 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/23/2001
    Subject: Re: I know you all want to kick my arse!!!
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    In a message dated 4/23/01 4:19:42 PM Central Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
    writes:

    << Actually, I thought it was pretty funny. It was cracking me up. >>

    It was kinda funny. Especially the way it would generate a new one every
    time it kicked out a response and snowballed from there. Kind of like a
    computer feedback loop. After the first few... I just deleted everything with
    that heading.
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    Group: pota Message: 6760 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/23/2001
    Subject: Re: Is anyboy welcome here?
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    In a message dated 4/23/01 4:45:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
    cosmicraye@... writes:

    << </DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV>
    Welcome Vanessa! I'm glad you found the group and look forward to your
    observations. Feel free and jump on in and enjoy yourself >>

    Get with it Lynn...I guess she's going through these one at a time. After
    all that meess last week it'll be next week before she catches up.
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    Group: pota Message: 6761 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
    Subject: Re: TV Show Revisted
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    .htmlIn a message dated 4/23/01 9:58:49 PM Central Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
    writes:


    I love your ideas Rory, combined with mine I think we could have had a hit
    instead of a cult classic!


    I would have to say you guys did have good ideas
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    Group: pota Message: 6762 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
    Subject: Re: TV Show Revisted
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    In a message dated 4/23/01 11:34:41 PM, mlccougar@... writes:

    <<I would have to say you guys did have good ideas>>

    Thanks mlccougar! If you have any of your own, feel free to contribute.

    Matt
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    Group: pota Message: 6763 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
    Subject: Looking for Archives Chase Cards
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    Does anyone have any of the chase cards from the Inkworks set that they want
    to get rid of.

    I have the Roddy McDowell subset, and I just won the Don Pedro Colley
    autograph card from eBay, but I still wouldn't mind getting the other
    autographs (Linda Harrison, Nate Trundy, Buck Kartalian and one of the other
    mutants whose name escapes me).

    There is also a nine-card subset that has some rare posters, I need all of
    those.

    Finally, there is some sort of special card that has a die cut of the Statue
    of Liberty. I need that to.

    Anyone wanna help me out here?

    Matt
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    Group: pota Message: 6764 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/23/2001
    Subject: Augusta Summerland???
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    What's the deal with Linda Harrison briefly changing her name to Augusta
    Summerland?

    Matt
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    Group: pota Message: 6765 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Date: 4/24/2001
    Subject: Re: TV Show Revisted
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    --- In pota@y..., "Phil, the price of all apealooza," <pjn1209@e...> wrote:

    "(The PLANET OF THE APES TV series) had its ass handed to it by Sanford & Son.

    "Or was it Chico and the Man? Or both?"



    You're right!

    In the '70s, some very bad network research supposedly showed that Friday nights at 8, was a great time for fantasy series...

    This, then, was ridiculous... Young folks, who they figured were actally part of these series' potential audences, were GOING OUT... Young Jewish guys (10-13), who were always part of a SF show's potential audience--as the networks SUPPOSEDLY realized, were, some times at least, in Temple... (Back in he'70s--as I presume, today, many Temples, like Christian Churches, had, as part of their requirements for young people "graduating" religious study, was for a certain number of mandatory attendances, at services. Jewish folk, since the '30s, had been a HUGE part of the science ficton demographic.)

    Other, adults, were INDEED watching SANFORD AND SON, and CHICO... Today, the equivalent would be schedling POTA, against MILLIONAIRE, or, (and I hate even writing this word), SURVIVOR...

    Best, Apesoaur Jim
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    Group: pota Message: 6766 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Date: 4/24/2001
    Subject: Re: TV Show Revisted
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    That should have been:

    > --- In pota@y..., "Phil, the PRINCE of all apealooza," <pjn1209@e...> wrote:
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    Group: pota Message: 6767 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 4/24/2001
    Subject: NEW POTA PRODUCTS
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    If anyone would like to order this magazine or any new apes products let me know.     I am offering them all at 20% off the listed retail price
     
    I also got in the new POTA promotional comic with POSTER from dark horse comics.   I have priced at a low $3.00 each    OR buy 10 copies for only $10.00 !!
     
     
    LOOK FOR US IN THE MAY PREVIEWS --- FOR JULY SHIPPING
    our listing is in the general magazine section
    Volume 4, number 4
    Summer 2001
    Cover price: $4.25 US
    104 pages
    Full-colour cover, centrefold and eight interior pages;
    88 black-and-white interior pages
    Featuring:
    Sheena's Gena Lee Nolin;
    Planet of the Apes'  Cary Tagawa;
    Deep Space Nine's bartender extraordinary Armin Shimerman;
    Behind the scenes on new television series the Mutant X;
    Behind the scenes on new Jason  X;
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    Group: pota Message: 6768 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 4/24/2001
    Subject: POTA promotional dark horse extra with poster
    .html
    Attachments :
      .html
      pictures attached so everybody can see what it looks like!
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      Group: pota Message: 6769 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
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      .htmlIn a message dated 4/23/01 11:54:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
      writes:


      What's the deal with Linda Harrison briefly changing her name to Augusta
      Summerland?

      Matt



      That's the deal -- She briefly changed her name to Augusta Summerland and
      appeared in "Airport '75."   She had no scenes with Chuck, though.  I think
      maybe she was so embarrassed by what had gone down in her life in the years
      just prior that she needed a change.  She's kind of kooky.

      -- Rory


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      Group: pota Message: 6770 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
      .html
      In a message dated 4/24/01 7:15:23 AM, Haristas@... writes:

      <<I think maybe she was so embarrassed by what had gone down in her life in
      the years just prior that she needed a change. She's kind of kooky.>>

      Please provide more details. Is this when she split from Zanuck?

      Matt
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      Group: pota Message: 6771 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Hari Rhodes
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      Anyone have any dirt as to why the MacDonald part was recast in BATTLE?

      Matt
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      Group: pota Message: 6772 From: Brian Penikas Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Caesar statue
      .html
      .html That's true, right after we finish restoring it.  We are also working out a deal to release a limited number of commemorative castings of the face and nameplate to help raise money for the fund.  More info later.

      Brian

      Jack Krueger wrote:

        No, Roddy had the Caesar statue and I hear he donated it to the Motion
      Picture Fund which will display it in the garden named after him.

                                                                  - - - - Jeff
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <LordTZer0@...>
      To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:54 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] E.W. out; Medicom question

      > In a message dated 4/20/01 5:27:35 PM Central Daylight Time,
      Haristas@...
      > writes:
      >
      > << I don't think there's anything 'fun' about that fact, Jeffery.  I'd
      like
      > to
      >  know it was still in Arthur's backyard, but then I guess she sold his
      house
      >  years ago, too.  Too bad.  >>
      >
      > Oh yeah . . . He had the Caesar statue.  My bad.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 6773 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Medicoms Reviewed
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      Woo Hoo Matt!!  I enjoyed it!  And I have been saving, honest.  Just haven't started buying yet!  And that is a *yet*.

                                         *Lynne*

      >From: "Jack Krueger"
      >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >To:
      >Subject: Re: [pota] Medicoms Reviewed
      >Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:45:45 -0700
      >
      >That's great, Matt! And incredible pictures. Why can't you be creative like
      >that, Brian? - - - - Anonymous
      >----- Original Message -----
      >From:
      >To:
      >Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 9:31 PM
      >Subject: [pota] Medicoms Reviewed
      >
      >
      > > Hey,
      > >
      > > A friend of mine runs a toy review page and let me do a review of the
      >Medicom
      > > POTA figures for him. If anyone feels like checking it out, here's the
      >link:
      > >
      > > http://www.atomgroup.org/REVIEW_INDEX.htm
      > >
      > > Feedback is welcome.
      > >
      > > Matt
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
      > >
      > >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 6774 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Hari Rhodes
      .html
      .htmlIn a message dated 4/24/01 8:58:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
      writes:


      Anyone have any dirt as to why the MacDonald part was recast in BATTLE?



      Maybe he had some other movie scheduled at the same time as "Battle," or
      maybe with "Conquest" he'd just had enough 'monkeying around.'  (Sorry)

      Rhodes died in 1992, by the way.

      -- Rory
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      Group: pota Message: 6775 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
      .html
      Hey Rory, sorry about missing that "s". I believe it was part of the
      replies to Lynne's posting regarding Vanessa. I hit reply on the email, but
      it doesn't include what post it was in regard to. BTW, great Chuck post you
      did over the weekend. Ben-Hur was Ben-Gay indeed. John
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      Group: pota Message: 6776 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
      .html
      I remember reading somewhere that she got involved with some sort of
      "guru" who may have persuaded her to change her name. Hey, it was the '70's.
      John
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      Group: pota Message: 6777 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
      .html
      .htmlIn a message dated 4/24/01 6:15:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
      JSe3689836@... writes:


      Hey Rory, sorry about missing that "s". I believe it was part of the
      replies to Lynne's posting regarding Vanessa. I hit reply on the email, but
      it doesn't include what post it was in regard to. BTW, great Chuck post you
      did over the weekend. Ben-Hur was Ben-Gay indeed.    John



      Thanks.  I wrote the next installment, but lost it to some glitsh before I
      could press send.  I think Chuck's on-line and out to blow me away.

      -- Rory

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      Group: pota Message: 6778 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
      .html
      .htmlIn a message dated 4/24/01 8:55:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
      writes:


      <<I
      the years just prior that she needed a change. She's kind of kooky.>>

      Please provide more details. Is this when she split from Zanuck?

      Matt



      Alright, here's pretty much all I know.  It's from the book "The Fox That Got
      Away" by Stephen M. Silverman about how the Zanucks lost 20th Century-Fox in
      the early Seventies.

      It's from page 303:

      "After five years, the marriage between Richard Zanuck and Linda Harrison
      dissolved.  In 1974 she sought a divorce on the grounds of irreconcilable
      differences.  Two months after filing.  Harrison asked the court for an order
      restraining Dick Zanuck from contacting her, following an incident in which
      she claimed he had violently beaten both her and her spiritual adviser, a
      65-year-old man.

      "He struck me, sat on top of me, and after restraining me with his legs and
      arms he repeatedly and viciously struck my face with his forearms in karate
      fashion, causing me extreme pain and suffering,"  her affidavit stated.

      The elderly companion, whom Harrison identified as her 'minister and
      spiritual advisor,' was Vincentii Turriziani of the Risen Christ Foundation
      of Vincentii Turriziani.  Harrison claimed that her husband punched and
      kicked Turriziani, smashed a statue, and struck the spititual advisor on the
      head with it.

      "He pulled several paintings from the wall, breaking the glass of some of
      them and also deliberately kicking his foot through a painting entitled 'The
      Risen Christ,' which he knew had a special religious significance," she said.

      Harrison said that starting in 1972 the marriage had become 'difficult' due
      to Zanuck's 'extremely violent disposition.'  Harrison had sought spiritual
      guidance from Turriziani in an effort to save the union."

      Well, that's her side of the story anyway.  I think Harrison's 'spiritual
      advisor' ended up with most of the $3 million divorce settlement she got from
      Zanuck, AND I've been told she slept with this guy.

      Anything else you want to know, Matt?

      -- Rory

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      Group: pota Message: 6779 From: Mez Downes Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Heads up for UK fans
      .html
      Just found this upcoming listing on DigiGuide:

      Film 2001 with Jonathan Ross
      (Entertainment)

      Time: 23:35 to 00:10 (35 minutes long).
      When: Thursday 26th April on BBC1
      and
      Time: 22:30 to 23:00 (30 minutes long -- what do they cut??)
      When: Wednesday 2nd May on BBC Choice.

      The latest film news with Jonathan Ross, featuring reviews of 'Tomb
      Raider', 'Planet of the Apes', 'The Mummy Returns', Julia Roberts
      in 'The Mexican', and director Ken Loach's first LA movie, 'Bread and
      Roses' (Subtitles, New Series)

      [Add Julian Cleary and it'll be a hit] /Mez
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      Group: pota Message: 6780 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
      .html
      Hey Matt, I remembered where I saw the guru reference. The April 1995
      Starlog, issue #213. Has an article with Linda H. Here's what she
      said...STARLOG: Why were you billed as "Augusta Summerland" in Airport 1975?
      HARRISON: [Laughs] Well-l-l, you know life can make its turns! I was married
      to Dick, and for one reason or another, I got involved with a guru-which was
      the "in" thing at the time. The guru claimed in his cult that you change from
      who you were born, and so as you make that change , you need a new name
      [Augusta Summerland]. Unfortunately, this guru wanted to make movies from his
      screenplays. And for whatever reason, he put a terrible wedge through my
      relationship with Dick. It ended that I left Dick. I was analyzed during that
      time; I think so much, at 20 years old, was thrown at me. I came from a small
      town of 2,000 and much of what was given me there, the values, have put me in
      good stead. But I think that I got "lost" somewhere, my "identity". Or
      woman's lib made us think that we were supposed to be unfulfilled.. Or
      whatever got into my "being" at the time-it was rough. I left Dick, and it
      was very hard." So, aint that somethin? John
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      Group: pota Message: 6781 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
      .html
      Boy, things could get pretty hairy at the Zanuck house. I wonder what
      "The Risen Christ" looked like. Nice bit, Rory. Thanks, John
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      Group: pota Message: 6782 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Hari Rhodes
      .html
      .htmlIn a message dated 4/24/01 7:57:44 AM Central Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
      writes:


      Anyone have any dirt as to why the MacDonald part was recast in BATTLE?

      Matt


      I always heard it was simply because Hari Rhodes wasn't available at  the
      time.
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      Group: pota Message: 6783 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
      .html
      << He struck me, sat on top of me, and after restraining me with his legs and
      arms he repeatedly and viciously struck my face with his forearms in karate
      fashion >>

      Whoa! Skeletor's revenge!
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      Group: pota Message: 6784 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
      .html
      In a message dated 4/24/01 7:23:24 PM, Haristas@... writes:

      <<Anything else you want to know, Matt?>>

      No, that should about cover it. I love the Planet of the Dirt!

      Matt
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      Group: pota Message: 6785 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Coupla' POTA Refs
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      .html

      It sure sounds like the POTA list has a Vortex Syndrome.  At least, one that is starting.  Anyone else have situations like this?  I'd like to hear about them!

                                                  *Lynne*

      >From: JSe3689836@...
      >Subject: [pota] Coupla' POTA Refs
      >Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:25:34 EDT
      >
      > Took half a day at work today to take Ma to the doctor. I'm in the
      >waiting room. Waiting. Reading an issue of Entertainment Weekly. Article on
      >the recent rash of deaths on film sets. They mention POTA & have a picture of
      >Alan Trachtenberg (Hope I got the name right) On the TV in the waiting room
      >is "The Nanny". I'm listing out of the corner of my ear. She talking about
      >some other nanny. I look up. She's reading a newspaper saying words to the
      >effect "She's some high-priced Park Avenue nanny with way too much time on
      >her hands." She suddenly looks intently at the newspaper and says in that
      >beautiful accent "Oh! Planet of the Apes is on at 4 o'clock!" After I we get
      >back from the doctors, I go to the neighborhood hang out for a quick beer. I
      >walk in, The Simpsons are on and they're parodying The Hunt. POTA sure was in
      >the air today. John
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      Group: pota Message: 6786 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
      .html
      .htmlIn a message dated 4/24/01 10:05:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
      writes:


      <<Anything else you want to know, Matt?>>

      No, that should about cover it. I love the Planet of the Dirt!

      Matt



      Well, I'll tell you, Matt, and everybody else, I've grown up with these
      people who made and starred in "Planet of the Apes" as like icons for me, but
      the more I learn about them as real people the less I want to know.  Nuff
      said.

      -- Rory

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      Group: pota Message: 6787 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Coupla' POTA Refs
      .html
      .htmlIn a message dated 4/24/01 10:32:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
      cosmicraye@... writes:


      > Took half a day at work today to take Ma to the doctor. I'm in the
      >waiting room. Waiting. Reading an issue of Entertainment Weekly. Article
      on
      >the recent rash of deaths on film sets. They mention POTA & have a picture
      of
      >Alan Trachtenberg (Hope I got the name right) On the TV in the waiting
      room
      >is "The Nanny". I'm listing out of the corner of my ear. She talking about
      >some other nanny. I look up. She's reading a newspaper saying words to the
      >effect "She's some high-priced Park Avenue nanny with way too much time on
      >her hands." She suddenly looks intently at the newspaper and says in that
      >beautiful accent "Oh! Planet of the Apes is on at 4 o'clock!" After I we
      get
      >back from the doctors, I go to the neighborhood hang out for a quick beer.
      I
      >walk in, The Simpsons are on and they're parodying The Hunt. POTA sure was
      in
      >the air today. John


      I remember this posting.  Now I'd like to see that episode of "The Nanny"
      that mentions PLANET.

      -- Rory

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      Group: pota Message: 6788 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
      .html
      In a message dated 4/24/01 10:37:30 PM Central Daylight Time,
      Haristas@... writes:

      << but the more I learn about them as real people the less I want to know.
      Nuff
      said. >>

      Now Rory, glass houses....
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      Group: pota Message: 6789 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: POTA on "That '70s Show"
      .html
      .htmlHey,

      Have any of you noticed the PLANET OF THE APES poster that hangs over Eric's
      bed on TV's "That '70s Show"?

      If you want to check it out watch the episode on tonight, Wednesday at 8 PM
      EST on -- what else? -- Fox.

      They funny thing about it is that the poster they have on the set is the
      recent British quad reprint which is for sale on eBay all the time -- and of
      course didn't exist in the '70s!!!

      -- Rory

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      Group: pota Message: 6790 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
      .html
      .htmlIn a message dated 4/24/01 11:44:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
      LordTZer0@... writes:


      Now Rory, glass houses....



      What you talkin' 'bout, T?!!!

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      Group: pota Message: 6791 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: (unknown)
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      .html

      ROFLMAO!!  Me, too!  I've been going through past posts and ran across 5 pages of Apemaster!!  If it was sending out everytime we posted, it sure made us shut up for awhile, huh??

                                              *Lynne*

      >From: MTotsky@...
      >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: Re: [pota] (unknown)
      >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:08:32 EDT
      >
      >ROTFLMAO!
      >
      >DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL BRIAN!
      >
      >Matt (I guess the old delete key will be working overtime in the next few
      >days)
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      Group: pota Message: 6792 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: Air & Leo love scene
      .html
      .html

      I saw this one...it was good/bad, but I liked it, though.  I can't remember if it was a made-for -TV movie or not.  And I'm going to see if I can find it today..I'd forgotten all  about this one!  And I thought the same thing when I saw the Ari pic!!

                  *Lynne*

      >From: LordTZer0@...
      >Subject: Re: [pota] Air & Leo love scene
      >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:48:32 EDT
      >
      >In a message dated 4/9/01 10:11:28 AM Central Daylight Time,
      >whitty@... writes:
      >
      ><< No - what was that about? >>
      >
      >Wow you missed a good bad one.
      >
      >It was a 70s flick with Burt Reynolds who was using a bunch of orang type
      >missing links to work a diamond mine in the jungle. It came up in court
      >whether or not they were human, and Burt was a slaver. Kinda cool and at the
      >same time vintage cheese. The only reason I bring it up is the female lead
      >kind of looked like a readheaded Ari. I don't want to spoil the ending for
      >you but the chances of seeing this one are slim to none so if you want to
      >know I'll tell ya.
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      Group: pota Message: 6793 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: female gorilla
      .html
      .html

      Thanks!!  If it hadn't been for Apemania going apes**t, I probably would have been able to catch up sooner, but it was worth the laugh, really.

                                                   *Lynne*

      >From: Haristas@...
      >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: Re: [pota] female gorilla
      >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:27:21 EDT
      >
      >In a message dated 4/19/01 4:18:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
      >cosmicraye@... writes:
      >
      >
      > > *Lynne*
      > > (going back to her 1053 messages, no
      > > kidding!!)
      > >
      >
      >1053 e-mails!!!! Lynne, you poor thing. Well, here's one more.
      >
      >-- Rory
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 6794 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/24/2001
      Subject: Re: I'll be blown......
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      .html

      Awww, Michael.....there you go, scaring off all the lurkers on this list!!  We'll have a rash of  'How do I get off this stinking list?!!'

                                                *Lynne*

      >From: "Michael Whitty"
      >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >To:
      >Subject: [pota] I'll be blown......
      >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:30:45 +1000
      >
      >DAMN! No penetration?!?
      >
      >So what is it - oral sex?
      >
      >Michael
      >
      >-----Original Message-----
      >From: Alexander Ruiz [prophecysite@...]
      >Sent: Friday, 20 April 2001 6:58
      >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: [pota] Putting Rumors to SLEEP!
      >
      >
      > "The first rule of remakes is never remake a great movie," says Burton.
      >"But that's part of what appealed to me. I guess I'm kind of perverse that
      >way." Speaking of perversity, what about those rumored love scenes between
      >Wahlberg's astronaut and Helena Bonham Carter's sympathetic chimp? "I know
      >there's been gossip about it in the press," says the director. "But it's not
      >like you see any actual animal penetration. There's no beastiality. Nothing
      >like that."
      >
      >
      > Best,
      >
      > Alex
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
      >Service.
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 6795 From: Kay53531@aol.com Date: 4/25/2001
      Subject: planet of apes and THE MONKEES in 2001
      .html
      .htmlGo figure both are making comebacks in 2001 The Monkees are on tour this
      summer for a 35th anniversary tour with a new live cd this summer,and a new
      ape movie I am in ape heaven . will hasbro do anymore 12 inch figures nova ?
      For any fans of the group there is a web site www.monkees.net                 
                                                               
                                                                        go ape
      this summer!

                                                                      Bryan
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      Group: pota Message: 6796 From: locutusatwolf359@aol.com Date: 4/25/2001
      Subject: Re: planet of apes and THE MONKEES in 2001
      .html
      Speaking of 2001 apes, I'm currently reading the novel 2001. In it there is a
      much longer scene with the "Man-Apes" that were on the road of evolution to
      man. It's really a good book so far. One of my goals for this year was to
      read it and now I am.

      Loc
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      Group: pota Message: 6797 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/25/2001
      Subject: Re: the Conclusion
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      Too cool!!  I just wish that I could see some of this stuff!  Just out of curosity...was there anything on the TV series in any of the boxes?  Just wondering...

                                                  *Lynne*

      >From: "Jack Krueger"
      >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >To:
      >Subject: [pota] the Conclusion
      >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:08:55 -0700
      >
      >Actually, this isn't taking as much space as I thought. So for my next number I will prsent the final 3 films as they are organized at the Jacobs archives. I know this doesn't tell much. "General Correspondance" could mean pages of letters, cables, what have you. But this is what the visitor is greeted with to zero in on what they're looking for. I thought the group might be interested.
      >
      >Box 61 (the only "Escape" box)
      >
      >Casting; Publicity Campaign; Photograph; publicity Release; Final Screenplay; Grosses; Post-Production; Press Kits; Call Sheets; London and other Foreign Ads; Trade Ads; Legal; Official Credits; Publicity; Trade Clippings; Ads; Review - London and other Foreign; Reviews and Quotes; Apes #3; Preview Ads; Advertising Budgets; Weekly Production Cost; Budget; Production; Daily Production Reports; Posters; 20th Century Fox 1970 Annual Report; Script; Correspondence
      >
      > "Conquest"
      >
      >Box 62
      >
      >Clips; "San Simian Sentinel"; Biographies; 1st Draft Screenplay; Suggested Ideas for Sequel; Billing to Fox from Harvey Levy's Office; Budget #1; Publicity Releases; Cast & Crew; 1st Draft Screenplay; 1st Draft Screenplay (again); Pictures; Posters
      >
      >Box 63
      >
      >Publicity Release; Rating; Trade Clippings; Budget #2; Credits; Music; Trailers & Teasers; Synopsis; Sample UK for Apes; General; Ads; Spanish Ads for Apes; Production Notes; Correspondance; June 5th Screening; APJ Personal File on Post-Production; Budget for Publicity; Post Production; APJ Work File; Legal; APJ Budget & Deals; Initial Correspondence; 1st Outline 3/14/71; Story Outline 3/19/71; Story Outline 3/20/71; Story Outline 3/31/71; Miscellaneous; Final Shooting Script; 1st Draft Screenplay; APJ Work Copy, 1st Draft Screenplay; Paul Dehn's 13pp Dated 11/9/71; Paul Dehn's Revised; Shooting Script; Publicity Campaign Outline; APJAC Personal Work Copy of Shooting Script; 20th Century Fox 1972 Annual Report; Films Incorporated Supplement 1972
      >
      > "Battle"
      >
      >Box 64
      >
      >APJ Work Copy of treatment; Publicity Clippings; Contracts; 1st Draft Story Outline; 1st Draft Outline; 1st Draft Screenplay, 8/23/72; Revised Screenplay, 12/6/72; Picture Proofs
      >
      >Box 65
      >
      >Shooting Script; Publicity; Publicity; Trailers; Credit; Legal; Post Production; 1st Draft Story Outline; Treatment; Treatment, 7/6/72; Paul Dehn Treatment (Complete); Reviews; Preview Ratings/Cards; Picture; Picture Proofs; Screenplay
      >
      >Box 66
      >
      >Production; APJAC Personal Work Copy; APJ Work Copy
      >
      >Well, that's the basic outline for the "Apes". As you can see by the box numbers, there's alot more films covered, from ones that were made like "Dr. Dolittle" and "Play It Again, Sam", to many more that weren't, like "Dune", "Frankenstein" , "Noah'.
      >Plays that Arthur backed, TV productions, lots and lots of stuff. Plus a gallery of photo albums, Jacobs' film collection, and stuff that hasn't been catalogued.
      >
      >Whatdya think? - - - - Jeff
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Alexander Ruiz
      > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:56 PM
      > Subject: [pota] All in the family
      >
      >
      > Best,
      >
      > Alex
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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      Group: pota Message: 6798 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/25/2001
      Subject: Re: the Conclusion
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      Too cool!!  I just wish that I could see some of this stuff!  Just out of curosity...was there anything on the TV series in any of the boxes?  Just wondering...

                                                  *Lynne*

      >From: "Jack Krueger"
      >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >To:
      >Subject: [pota] the Conclusion
      >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:08:55 -0700
      >
      >Actually, this isn't taking as much space as I thought. So for my next number I will prsent the final 3 films as they are organized at the Jacobs archives. I know this doesn't tell much. "General Correspondance" could mean pages of letters, cables, what have you. But this is what the visitor is greeted with to zero in on what they're looking for. I thought the group might be interested.
      >
      >Box 61 (the only "Escape" box)
      >
      >Casting; Publicity Campaign; Photograph; publicity Release; Final Screenplay; Grosses; Post-Production; Press Kits; Call Sheets; London and other Foreign Ads; Trade Ads; Legal; Official Credits; Publicity; Trade Clippings; Ads; Review - London and other Foreign; Reviews and Quotes; Apes #3; Preview Ads; Advertising Budgets; Weekly Production Cost; Budget; Production; Daily Production Reports; Posters; 20th Century Fox 1970 Annual Report; Script; Correspondence
      >
      > "Conquest"
      >
      >Box 62
      >
      >Clips; "San Simian Sentinel"; Biographies; 1st Draft Screenplay; Suggested Ideas for Sequel; Billing to Fox from Harvey Levy's Office; Budget #1; Publicity Releases; Cast & Crew; 1st Draft Screenplay; 1st Draft Screenplay (again); Pictures; Posters
      >
      >Box 63
      >
      >Publicity Release; Rating; Trade Clippings; Budget #2; Credits; Music; Trailers & Teasers; Synopsis; Sample UK for Apes; General; Ads; Spanish Ads for Apes; Production Notes; Correspondance; June 5th Screening; APJ Personal File on Post-Production; Budget for Publicity; Post Production; APJ Work File; Legal; APJ Budget & Deals; Initial Correspondence; 1st Outline 3/14/71; Story Outline 3/19/71; Story Outline 3/20/71; Story Outline 3/31/71; Miscellaneous; Final Shooting Script; 1st Draft Screenplay; APJ Work Copy, 1st Draft Screenplay; Paul Dehn's 13pp Dated 11/9/71; Paul Dehn's Revised; Shooting Script; Publicity Campaign Outline; APJAC Personal Work Copy of Shooting Script; 20th Century Fox 1972 Annual Report; Films Incorporated Supplement 1972
      >
      > "Battle"
      >
      >Box 64
      >
      >APJ Work Copy of treatment; Publicity Clippings; Contracts; 1st Draft Story Outline; 1st Draft Outline; 1st Draft Screenplay, 8/23/72; Revised Screenplay, 12/6/72; Picture Proofs
      >
      >Box 65
      >
      >Shooting Script; Publicity; Publicity; Trailers; Credit; Legal; Post Production; 1st Draft Story Outline; Treatment; Treatment, 7/6/72; Paul Dehn Treatment (Complete); Reviews; Preview Ratings/Cards; Picture; Picture Proofs; Screenplay
      >
      >Box 66
      >
      >Production; APJAC Personal Work Copy; APJ Work Copy
      >
      >Well, that's the basic outline for the "Apes". As you can see by the box numbers, there's alot more films covered, from ones that were made like "Dr. Dolittle" and "Play It Again, Sam", to many more that weren't, like "Dune", "Frankenstein" , "Noah'.
      >Plays that Arthur backed, TV productions, lots and lots of stuff. Plus a gallery of photo albums, Jacobs' film collection, and stuff that hasn't been catalogued.
      >
      >Whatdya think? - - - - Jeff
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Alexander Ruiz
      > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:56 PM
      > Subject: [pota] All in the family
      >
      >
      > Best,
      >
      > Alex
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 6799 From: Lynne Miller Date: 4/25/2001
      Subject: Re: the Conclusion
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      Too cool!!  I just wish that I could see some of this stuff!  Just out of curosity...was there anything on the TV series in any of the boxes?  Just wondering...

                                                  *Lynne*

      >From: "Jack Krueger"
      >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >To:
      >Subject: [pota] the Conclusion
      >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:08:55 -0700
      >
      >Actually, this isn't taking as much space as I thought. So for my next number I will prsent the final 3 films as they are organized at the Jacobs archives. I know this doesn't tell much. "General Correspondance" could mean pages of letters, cables, what have you. But this is what the visitor is greeted with to zero in on what they're looking for. I thought the group might be interested.
      >
      >Box 61 (the only "Escape" box)
      >
      >Casting; Publicity Campaign; Photograph; publicity Release; Final Screenplay; Grosses; Post-Production; Press Kits; Call Sheets; London and other Foreign Ads; Trade Ads; Legal; Official Credits; Publicity; Trade Clippings; Ads; Review - London and other Foreign; Reviews and Quotes; Apes #3; Preview Ads; Advertising Budgets; Weekly Production Cost; Budget; Production; Daily Production Reports; Posters; 20th Century Fox 1970 Annual Report; Script; Correspondence
      >
      > "Conquest"
      >
      >Box 62
      >
      >Clips; "San Simian Sentinel"; Biographies; 1st Draft Screenplay; Suggested Ideas for Sequel; Billing to Fox from Harvey Levy's Office; Budget #1; Publicity Releases; Cast & Crew; 1st Draft Screenplay; 1st Draft Screenplay (again); Pictures; Posters
      >
      >Box 63
      >
      >Publicity Release; Rating; Trade Clippings; Budget #2; Credits; Music; Trailers & Teasers; Synopsis; Sample UK for Apes; General; Ads; Spanish Ads for Apes; Production Notes; Correspondance; June 5th Screening; APJ Personal File on Post-Production; Budget for Publicity; Post Production; APJ Work File; Legal; APJ Budget & Deals; Initial Correspondence; 1st Outline 3/14/71; Story Outline 3/19/71; Story Outline 3/20/71; Story Outline 3/31/71; Miscellaneous; Final Shooting Script; 1st Draft Screenplay; APJ Work Copy, 1st Draft Screenplay; Paul Dehn's 13pp Dated 11/9/71; Paul Dehn's Revised; Shooting Script; Publicity Campaign Outline; APJAC Personal Work Copy of Shooting Script; 20th Century Fox 1972 Annual Report; Films Incorporated Supplement 1972
      >
      > "Battle"
      >
      >Box 64
      >
      >APJ Work Copy of treatment; Publicity Clippings; Contracts; 1st Draft Story Outline; 1st Draft Outline; 1st Draft Screenplay, 8/23/72; Revised Screenplay, 12/6/72; Picture Proofs
      >
      >Box 65
      >
      >Shooting Script; Publicity; Publicity; Trailers; Credit; Legal; Post Production; 1st Draft Story Outline; Treatment; Treatment, 7/6/72; Paul Dehn Treatment (Complete); Reviews; Preview Ratings/Cards; Picture; Picture Proofs; Screenplay
      >
      >Box 66
      >
      >Production; APJAC Personal Work Copy; APJ Work Copy
      >
      >Well, that's the basic outline for the "Apes". As you can see by the box numbers, there's alot more films covered, from ones that were made like "Dr. Dolittle" and "Play It Again, Sam", to many more that weren't, like "Dune", "Frankenstein" , "Noah'.
      >Plays that Arthur backed, TV productions, lots and lots of stuff. Plus a gallery of photo albums, Jacobs' film collection, and stuff that hasn't been catalogued.
      >
      >Whatdya think? - - - - Jeff
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Alexander Ruiz
      > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:56 PM
      > Subject: [pota] All in the family
      >
      >
      > Best,
      >
      > Alex
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 6800 From: daniel225nma@hotmail.com Date: 4/25/2001
      Subject: Re: Heads up for UK fans
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      --- In pota@y..., "Mez Downes" <mdownes@n...> wrote:
      > Just found this upcoming listing on DigiGuide:
      >
      > Film 2001 with Jonathan Ross
      > (Entertainment)
      >
      > Time: 23:35 to 00:10 (35 minutes long).
      > When: Thursday 26th April on BBC1
      > and
      > Time: 22:30 to 23:00 (30 minutes long -- what do they cut??)
      > When: Wednesday 2nd May on BBC Choice.
      >
      > The latest film news with Jonathan Ross, featuring reviews of 'Tomb
      > Raider', 'Planet of the Apes', 'The Mummy Returns', Julia Roberts
      > in 'The Mexican', and director Ken Loach's first LA movie, 'Bread
      and
      > Roses' (Subtitles, New Series)
      >
      > [Add Julian Cleary and it'll be a hit] /Mez


      Thanks for the 'heads up' Mez. VCR is now on standby !

      Dan
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      Group: pota Message: 6801 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/25/2001
      Subject: Re: Augusta Summerland???
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      << What you talkin' 'bout, T?!!! >>

      Gee, I thought it was pretty self explanatory. Nuff said. Anyone wanna help
      Rory on this one?

      << but the more I learn about them as real people the less I want to know.
      Nuff
      said. >>

      Now Rory, glass houses....
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      Group: pota Message: 6802 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/25/2001
      Subject: Re: I'll be blown......
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      In a message dated 4/25/01 12:01:52 AM Central Daylight Time,
      cosmicraye@... writes:

      << Awww, Michael.....there you go, scaring off all the lurkers on this list!!
      >>

      Close but no cigar!
      cigar smoking gorilla that is.
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