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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 3:48 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Re: virus warning!!!!!!!!

Believe me, it was not intentional!!!

 

Not intentional?

First you send it to the e-group, THEN you send it to me.

 

That's being unintentioanl TWICE.

 

I'm I missing something?

 

Alex

 

 

 

 

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I don't know how it's going out or anything about it. All I know is that I opened it from someone I work with and the damn thing was sent to everyone in my address book, and from there I don't have a clue. If it was intentional, i wouldn't have sent the second one warning everybody and I surely wouldn't have signed it.   Lewis

 

 

That's cool Lewis, just be careful next time.

 

Best,

Alex

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 5:16 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: virus warning!!!!!!!!

I don't know how it's going out or anything about it. All I know is that I opened it from someone I work with and the damn thing was sent to everyone in my address book, and from there I don't have a clue. If it was intentional, i wouldn't have sent the second one warning everybody and I surely wouldn't have signed it.   Lewis

 

 

That's cool Lewis, just be careful next time.

 

Best,

Alex

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Here's another contest to go to the "Apes" premiere (the first one is at
www.darkhorse.com for those who haven't entered). It's from a newspaper here
in Los Angeles called "New Times" but the contest is open to all U.S.
residents (except Rhode Island and Puerto Rico). Go to www.newtimesla.com .
If you win, perhaps you'll consider taking Natalie Trundy? Good luck!

- - -
- Jeff K.

----- Original Message -----
From: <DrZira3978@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Favorite POTA moments.


> > The "Beneath" ending was a consiracy between Heston and Richard Zanuck.
> > Apparently director Ted Post didn't know that until he saw the "Behind
the
> > pOTA" documentary. He expressed his outrage that Heston would selfishly
> > champion that ending in "Apesfan" #2. Post hated that ending! (What
> happened
> > to the auteur theory?) - - - Jeff K.
>
> That doesn't surprise me, the ending was just a let down... I have one
> Apesfan issue, it's a special tribute issue with Roddy, also has a great
> interview with Kim Hunter. Anybody know where I can get my paws on other
> issues? I was REALLY inpressed with the one that I have.
>
> Oooo also I was watching MTV yesterday and they did a commercial for some
MTV
> special called "The A-Z guide to Summer" or something like that (It is on
> next weekend) and P is for Planet of the Apes... so I am wondering if they
> are going to be showing us some new stuff from the movie.
>
> Chad
>
>
>
>
>
>

Right, I think everyone has listed all my favourite moments from the films,
so I'm going to try to come up with moments for each film other than the
obvious ones that have been mentioned by everyone.

So, these have probably already been mentioned, but I would list:

PLANET: Zaius screwing up the paper plane.

BENEATH: Zaius smashing the mutant busts; Brent wandering through the
subway. The ending.

ESCAPE: Zira announcing her pregnancy; the ending (and the epilogue).

CONQUEST: Every scene involving the nasty police force. Introduction to Ape
Management. "The birth of the planet of the apes!"

BATTLE: The opening, with the Lawgiver. The opening titles with Aldo. The
city.

Alan

Alexander Ruiz <prophecysite@...> wrote:

>That's why I say: Support Tim Burton's remake, because
>whether you want to believe it or not, by not supporting
>such a film, we all might as well get use to the idea
>that no more ape products will ever be released by FOX
>if this remake fails.

Hey, we've been doing pretty well up until now without a remake! A remake
flop might dent Fox's interest in merchandising, but maybe then others would
be able to pick up licencing rights for cheaper!

Alan

DrZira3978@... <DrZira3978@...> wrote:

>Whoa... Michael... I bow to your superior cheapness... ;) What a GREAT
>idea!!! The only thing I do like that is return books that I don't like to
>the bookstore as a return to get another one...

There is actually a music shop near me that has an interesting policy to
encourage people to try new artists - if you buy a CD and you think it's
rubbish, you can take it back and exchange it!

Alan

Matt <MTotsky@...> wrote:

>Of course, the Medicoms are much more accurate and therefore better (they

are

>still not perfect figures, they need more articulation), but nothing will
>ever hold the sentimental place in my heart that the Mego Apes (and the

Mego

>Superheroes) do. I played with those endlessly as a kid and therefore they
>are better in that regard. I'm just glad my Mego Apes survived my childhood
>relatively intact (I did have to replace some parts and figures - I wish I
>still had the Ape City playset).
>
>Make sense?

It does. You've pretty much described why I love the much-maligned Battle so
much.

Alan

Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:

>Yeah, I thought your original reply was great and not long winded at all --
>and I wrote so. I guess posts still aren't getting through.

For what it's worth, I don't seem to be having too many problems!
Unfortunately it means that I keep getting messages sent again as people
think they haven't arrived. I had to download your posters three times,
Rory!

Alan
PS I'll let you off though, because they're lovely.

Matt <MTotsky@...> wrote:

>Gorillas:
>Mike Tyson
>Robert Deniro
>Homer Simpson
>Any Pro Wrestler
>Charlton Heston (He's the head of the NRA for Christ's sake!)

We want guns! Guns mean power!

(Sorry)

Alan

Jeff Krueger <williejoe@...> wrote:

>Oldman turned down a part in "Apes" because they wouldn't pay him
> - - - - Jeff K.

I'm assuming that's just the usual case of a word disappearing off the end
of your emails, Jeff. Otherwise Fox are even tighter than I thought!

Alan

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In a message dated 5/28/01 8:13:09 AM, Haristas@... writes:

<< I could go on with other old-time directors, like Ford or Hawks, but I
gotta
go right now. Later. >>

Do it when you get a chance!

Matt (who has a few more "What Ifs?" coming later tonight for those who care)

In a message dated 5/28/01 9:11:51 AM, Haristas@... writes:

<< Yeah, I think there's going to be a lot in this Burton film to leap over.
Mark Wahlberg bothers me, too. He doesn't seem to have much weight, but then
he's just beginning his career. Twenty years fron now, POTA may be seen as
his breakout role or something. >>

C'mon! Whalberg is established enough for POTA. Did you see "Boogie Nights?"
He was amazing in that movie and deserved a Best Actor Oscar. He was also
quite good in "Three Kings" and "The Perfect Storm." Yes, he does seem a bit
young, but in all of these parts he has proven his acting chops and the
ability to portray a "fish out of water" or someone who is in over their
heads, a quality which is needed for any human lead in a POTA film.

Matt

> what happened was that I opened an attachement I got from someone
> I work with. I thought it was a joke or something but i found
> myself in a real mess.
>
> Lewis

The same thing almost happened to me last year via an e-mail from a
friend...My virus scanner caught it before I could click on it, thank
goodness. I hope you're able to clear it off your system quickly, and
if you don't have one I'd suggest installing a virus scanner (if it's
your home computer). InoculateIT is free from Computer Associates and
works in the background continuously -- register to download it here:

http://antivirus.ca.com/ipe_registration.htm

/Mez

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 4:47 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Rule the premiere!

Here's another contest to go to the "Apes" premiere (the first one is at
www.darkhorse.com for those who haven't entered). It's from a newspaper here
in Los Angeles called "New Times" but the contest is open to all U.S.
residents (except Rhode Island and Puerto Rico). Go to www.newtimesla.com .
If you win, perhaps you'll consider taking Natalie Trundy? Good luck!

                                                                       - - -
- Jeff K.

 

Thanks for the heads up Jeff.

I've just placed the banner on my site, if darkhorse had one I would have placed one for that as well.

 

Best,

Alex

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Well said! - - - Jeff K.

----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] ESCAPE memories & Burton project thoughts


>
> In a message dated 5/28/01 9:11:51 AM, Haristas@... writes:
>
> << Yeah, I think there's going to be a lot in this Burton film to leap
over.
> Mark Wahlberg bothers me, too. He doesn't seem to have much weight, but
then
> he's just beginning his career. Twenty years fron now, POTA may be seen
as
> his breakout role or something. >>
>
> C'mon! Whalberg is established enough for POTA. Did you see "Boogie
Nights?"
> He was amazing in that movie and deserved a Best Actor Oscar. He was also
> quite good in "Three Kings" and "The Perfect Storm." Yes, he does seem a
bit
> young, but in all of these parts he has proven his acting chops and the
> ability to portray a "fish out of water" or someone who is in over their
> heads, a quality which is needed for any human lead in a POTA film.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>

.htmlIn a message dated 5/28/01 7:34:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
alan@... writes:

For what it's worth, I don't seem to be having too many problems!
Unfortunately it means that I keep getting messages sent again as people
think they haven't arrived. I had to download your posters three times,
Rory!

Alan
PS I'll let you off though, because they're lovely.

Oh, sorry.  Well, I'm glad you liked them.<.html

Mez Downes <mdownes@...> wrote:

>Well, that happened in both the film and the novelization. Which
>always struck me as funny in the film because they *are* so different
>looking to contemporary chimps. I would hope that if three human-
>sized, upright-walking chimps in spacesuits washed up on our shores
>this minute, our initial reaction would not be to throw them in a zoo!

Unfortunately I think that if such an event actually occurred, they would
probably be treated a lot worse than being thrown in the zoo.

Alan

Matt <MTotsky@...> wrote:

>I was just curious if anyone here doesn't prefer PLANET as their favorite
>film out of the original five. If this is the case, why?

Planet is my favourite usually, but I sometimes swing between it, Beneath
and, on rare occasions, Conquest, depending on my mood.

Alan

Jeff Krueger <williejoe@...> wrote:

>For the record, collectors know there are two "Beneath" covers.
>One has Nova, the other has Cornelius and Ursus. I chose the latter
>and I remember in my "Apes" fever I'd read it once in awhile. I
>didn't know about used book stores. I remember iI tried to get the
>Boulle novel from the school libraary and it was always out. So,
>during my childhood "Beneath" was the only "Apes" novel I knew.
>Important? I guess not. But I thought it was worth mentioning.

I have the Nova cover. It's got that plastic/laminated type finish (no jokes
about the purpose of this please) which possibly decreases its "value" but I
love it, as it has kept the cover pretty much free from wear. Nice.

And I really enjoyed the novel, too.

Alan

.htmlIn a message dated 5/28/01 6:09:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
alan@... writes:

Hey, we've been doing pretty well up until now without a remake! A remake
flop might dent Fox's interest in merchandising, but maybe then others would
be able to pick up licencing rights for cheaper!

Alan

I agree.Well said Alan.

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Jeff Krueger <williejoe@...> wrote:

>Haven't seen "Silent Running". All I know about it that some accuse George
>Lucas of stealing R2D2 from it. - - - Jeff

I thought it was more or less acknowledged that the droids in SW were
inspired by those of Silent Running?

Anyway, whoever said they hadn't seen it... SEE IT! Great film, directed by
Douglas Trumbull himself.

Alan

.htmlIn a message dated 5/28/01 8:30:29 PM Central Daylight Time,
mdownes@... writes:

The same thing almost happened to me last year via an e-mail from a
friend...My virus scanner caught it before I could click on it, thank
goodness. I hope you're able to clear it off your system quickly, and
if you don't have one I'd suggest installing a virus scanner (if it's
your home computer). InoculateIT is free from Computer Associates and
works in the background continuously -- register to download it here:

http://antivirus.ca.com/ipe_registration.htm

/Mez

Thanks for the info Mez.

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Jeff Krueger <williejoe@...>

> I have to say this feels really good to hear this. I guess we don't have

to

>say "Real "Apes" fans don't cry". And I can't think of a better 30th
>Anniversary tribute to "Escape". Really, how many science fiction films

make

>you cry?

SF films? None that I can think of.

Soylent Green came pretty close though. Tha fact that it was EGW's last role
gives it something extra.

Alan

Jeff Krueger <williejoe@...> wrote:

>"Planet " is my favorite, but "Escape" is a close second. By the way,
>according to "Behind the POTA" this month (May) is the 30th anniversary of
>"Escape". Any "Escape" memories? I remember it was the first "Apes" movie I
>saw. I came in when they were taking the helmets off and had my socks
>knocked off! - - - - - Jeff K.

My main memory of Escape is unfortunately thinking it was a bit of an
anti-climax. It was the last one I saw, and it just didn't live up to the
others in my book. I think it was probably something to do with the 70s
setting, and the fact that very few apes were actually involved. The second
half of the film I love, the first half isn't quite as good. The turning
point, almost exactly halfway through, is Zira's revelation that she is
pregnant. That's when it really gets going.

Alan

This is interesting. Go to www.projectape.com . Every Friday for 13 weeks
Fox is hiding props from the new movie and the person to find them keeps
them. Id definitely say "Apes" is becoming "the contest movie" of the
summer.

- - - -
Jeff Krueger

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] LOST IN SPACE GOOD FIRST TRY


> Jeff Krueger <williejoe@...> wrote:
>
> >Oldman turned down a part in "Apes" because they wouldn't pay him
> > - - - - Jeff K.
>
> I'm assuming that's just the usual case of a word disappearing off the end
> of your emails, Jeff. Otherwise Fox are even tighter than I thought!
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Yes, Alan. I'm having a lot of trouble with the last word in my e-mails.
But that was very rude of you to point that out in front of everyone. You're
nothing but a lousy

- - - -
- Jeff K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] LOST IN SPACE GOOD FIRST TRY


> Jeff Krueger <williejoe@...> wrote:
>
> >Oldman turned down a part in "Apes" because they wouldn't pay him
> > - - - - Jeff K.
>
> I'm assuming that's just the usual case of a word disappearing off the end
> of your emails, Jeff. Otherwise Fox are even tighter than I thought!
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

In a message dated 5/28/01 9:42:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
alan@... writes:

<< I thought it was more or less acknowledged that the droids in SW were
inspired by those of Silent Running? >>

Not much Maryann. The Silent Running droids weren't played by midgets or
dwarves. They were double amputees walking on their hands.

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<< how many science fiction films
make

>you cry?

SF films? None that I can think of. >>

Oh, I don't know. I don't think Escape isn't the only one. I get a little
choked up over Blade Runner when Rutger Hauer starts talking about all the
memories being lost like tears in the rain. I'm sure there are others I
can't think of right now.

In a message dated 5/28/01 10:06:54 PM Central Daylight Time,
alan@... writes:

<< Tha fact that it was EGW's last role
gives it something extra. >>

Shouldn't that be EGR?

That depends on whether he's a wobber or wapist.

LordTZer0@... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/28/01 10:06:54 PM Central Daylight Time,
> alan@... writes:
>
> << Tha fact that it was EGW's last role
> gives it something extra. >>
>
> Shouldn't that be EGR?
>
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 9:47 PM

Subject: [pota] Basic operations map of official site

Basic operations map for the official web site.

Have fun on the official web site.

 

RULE THE PLANET!

 

ALEX

 

P.S. it took me forever and a day to figure this out, so much for a computer genius.

More like computer rookie...oh well.

Enjoy!

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Thanks. I used Norton's Anti-virus to get rid of it. But, I think I'll try
the one you suggested because this is the second time within a couple of
months. Thanks for the info.

Lewis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mez Downes" <mdownes@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 11:59 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: virus warning!!!!!!!!


> > what happened was that I opened an attachement I got from someone
> > I work with. I thought it was a joke or something but i found
> > myself in a real mess.
> >
> > Lewis
>
> The same thing almost happened to me last year via an e-mail from a
> friend...My virus scanner caught it before I could click on it, thank
> goodness. I hope you're able to clear it off your system quickly, and
> if you don't have one I'd suggest installing a virus scanner (if it's
> your home computer). InoculateIT is free from Computer Associates and
> works in the background continuously -- register to download it here:
>
> http://antivirus.ca.com/ipe_registration.htm
>
> /Mez
>
>
>
>
>
>

No sweat, Lewis. Doesn't look like anyone got screwed. Hope you are
enjoying the group.
- - - -
Jeff K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lewis Pierson" <lpierson@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: virus warning!!!!!!!!


> Thanks. I used Norton's Anti-virus to get rid of it. But, I think I'll try
> the one you suggested because this is the second time within a couple of
> months. Thanks for the info.
>
> Lewis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mez Downes" <mdownes@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 11:59 PM
> Subject: [pota] Re: virus warning!!!!!!!!
>
>
> > > what happened was that I opened an attachement I got from someone
> > > I work with. I thought it was a joke or something but i found
> > > myself in a real mess.
> > >
> > > Lewis
> >
> > The same thing almost happened to me last year via an e-mail from a
> > friend...My virus scanner caught it before I could click on it, thank
> > goodness. I hope you're able to clear it off your system quickly, and
> > if you don't have one I'd suggest installing a virus scanner (if it's
> > your home computer). InoculateIT is free from Computer Associates and
> > works in the background continuously -- register to download it here:
> >
> > http://antivirus.ca.com/ipe_registration.htm
> >
> > /Mez
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 9:47 PM

Subject: [pota] Basic operations map of official site

Basic operations map for the official web site.

Have fun on the official web site.

 

RULE THE PLANET!

 

ALEX

 

P.S. it took me forever and a day to figure this out, so much for a computer genius.

More like computer rookie...oh well.

Enjoy!

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I certainly hope no one was screwed. I have enjoyed the group for a long
time now and recieved quite a bit of information. You guys really dissect
the POTA movies in depth. I have watched the movies over and over again just
trying to pick out something that was mentioned on the group that I missed.

Lewis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: virus warning!!!!!!!!


> No sweat, Lewis. Doesn't look like anyone got screwed. Hope you are
> enjoying the group.
> - - - -
> Jeff K.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lewis Pierson" <lpierson@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 9:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: virus warning!!!!!!!!
>
>
> > Thanks. I used Norton's Anti-virus to get rid of it. But, I think I'll
try
> > the one you suggested because this is the second time within a couple of
> > months. Thanks for the info.
> >
> > Lewis
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mez Downes" <mdownes@...>
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 11:59 PM
> > Subject: [pota] Re: virus warning!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> > > > what happened was that I opened an attachement I got from someone
> > > > I work with. I thought it was a joke or something but i found
> > > > myself in a real mess.
> > > >
> > > > Lewis
> > >
> > > The same thing almost happened to me last year via an e-mail from a
> > > friend...My virus scanner caught it before I could click on it, thank
> > > goodness. I hope you're able to clear it off your system quickly, and
> > > if you don't have one I'd suggest installing a virus scanner (if it's
> > > your home computer). InoculateIT is free from Computer Associates and
> > > works in the background continuously -- register to download it here:
> > >
> > > http://antivirus.ca.com/ipe_registration.htm
> > >
> > > /Mez
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Is anyone as confused as I am about the official website? I figured out
the instructions (thanks, Alex) but I'm not sure if I properly captured the
trading card (and what does that mean?). And what's this Project A.P.E. ? I
take it we don't actually have to go to the location. - - -
Jeff K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 8:58 PM
Subject: [pota] ANOTHER contest!


> This is interesting. Go to www.projectape.com . Every Friday for 13 weeks
> Fox is hiding props from the new movie and the person to find them keeps
> them. Id definitely say "Apes" is becoming "the contest movie" of the
> summer.
>
> - - -
-
> Jeff Krueger
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 3:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [pota] LOST IN SPACE GOOD FIRST TRY
>
>
> > Jeff Krueger <williejoe@...> wrote:
> >
> > >Oldman turned down a part in "Apes" because they wouldn't pay him
> > > - - - - Jeff K.
> >
> > I'm assuming that's just the usual case of a word disappearing off the
end
> > of your emails, Jeff. Otherwise Fox are even tighter than I thought!
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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mlccougar@... writes:

The same thing almost happened to me last year via an e-mail from a
friend...My virus scanner caught it before I could click on it, thank
goodness. I hope you're able to clear it off your system quickly, and
if you don't have one I'd suggest installing a virus scanner (if it's
your home computer). InoculateIT is free from Computer Associates and
works in the background continuously -- register to download it here:

http://antivirus.ca.com/ipe_registration.htm

/Mez

Will all these virus warnings save all the dogs and cats?

-- Rory<.html

I may be going out on a bit of a limb here but I have to confess to
always being a bigger fan of 'Beneath'

I think it was because it was the first Apes film I saw back when I
was knee high to a chimp. General Ursus fascinated me as a character
and I remember being blown away by the Ape army on the march, and the
mutants peeling back their skin.

It was only later that I caught up with the rest of the series but I
always stayed true to Beneath. Now that I am a wise old man (only 30
though I must add), I can of course see the obvious failings the film
has when directly compared to Planet, but to me it will always remain
my favourite.

When the tv series reared it's beautiful head over here in the UK, I
was absolutely overjoyed that they had reproduced Ursus in the form
of Urko.

I only hope this Attar chap can live up to the menace that Ursus and
Urko had.


Daniel

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<LordTZer0@...> wrote:

>In a message dated 5/28/01 10:06:54 PM Central Daylight Time,
>alan@... writes:
>
><< Tha fact that it was EGW's last role
> gives it something extra. >>
>
>Shouldn't that be EGR?

Yep. Oops.

Alan

<< Tha fact that it was EGW's last role gives it something extra. >>

> >Shouldn't that be EGR?

> Yep. Oops.
>
> Alan

Not so fast Alan, it was actually Emily Grant Wooton's last film as well,
lovely character actress known for her ability to remain perfectly still for
nearly 24 hours, strout, robust woman *sigh* she will be missed...

Chad, who thinks Zira may have slipped him some of her hubby's "tobacco".

> Hi Mez - - -
>
> Great website. I signed your guestbook. I told Booth Colman about
> the site. Maybe somehow he could sign the guestbook too.
>
> - - - - Jeff K.

Jeff, after having the blooms on my tulips ripped off their stems
last night by some hooligans and spending all day today setting up a
CCTV camera out front (this isn't the first time we and our
neighbours have been vandalized), finding this waiting for me tonight
has given me my smile back. You've turned my day around completely,
thank you. Hug for you, and send my love to Mr. Colman too. /Mez

Hey kids,
Michael Whitty rang me to tell me that he mistakenly opened the exe. attachment
to Lewis's email. Does any one have the details on this particular virus and how
to get rid of it? Michael doesn't want to send any emails until he's sure he's
safe to do so.
Thanks and regards,
KEN

Lewis Pierson wrote:

> I certainly hope no one was screwed. I have enjoyed the group for a long
> time now and recieved quite a bit of information. You guys really dissect
> the POTA movies in depth. I have watched the movies over and over again just
> trying to pick out something that was mentioned on the group that I missed.
>
> Lewis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: virus warning!!!!!!!!
>
> > No sweat, Lewis. Doesn't look like anyone got screwed. Hope you are
> > enjoying the group.
> > - - - -
> > Jeff K.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lewis Pierson" <lpierson@...>
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 9:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: virus warning!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> > > Thanks. I used Norton's Anti-virus to get rid of it. But, I think I'll
> try
> > > the one you suggested because this is the second time within a couple of
> > > months. Thanks for the info.
> > >
> > > Lewis
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mez Downes" <mdownes@...>
> > > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 11:59 PM
> > > Subject: [pota] Re: virus warning!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > > > what happened was that I opened an attachement I got from someone
> > > > > I work with. I thought it was a joke or something but i found
> > > > > myself in a real mess.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lewis
> > > >
> > > > The same thing almost happened to me last year via an e-mail from a
> > > > friend...My virus scanner caught it before I could click on it, thank
> > > > goodness. I hope you're able to clear it off your system quickly, and
> > > > if you don't have one I'd suggest installing a virus scanner (if it's
> > > > your home computer). InoculateIT is free from Computer Associates and
> > > > works in the background continuously -- register to download it here:
> > > >
> > > > http://antivirus.ca.com/ipe_registration.htm
> > > >
> > > > /Mez
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

> Mez Downes <mdownes@n...> wrote:
> >I would hope that if three human-sized, upright-walking chimps in
> >spacesuits washed up on our shores this minute, our initial
> >reaction would not be to throw them in a zoo!
>
> Unfortunately I think that if such an event actually occurred, they
> would probably be treated a lot worse than being thrown in the zoo.
>
> Alan

Sadly, I think you're right. And when the small minority who knew
about what had happened tried to make the information public, the
government involved would employ 'plausible denial' tactics.

Unless it happened in the UK, in which case we'd have video evidence
of Prescott decking Cornelius. ;) /Mez

Hi!

This 'piece of wood', Wahlberg, is being praised here for BOOGIE
NIGHTS? Holy smokes!

Hey, I don't like him, yet. Please don't hold it against me.

In terms of paralelling the original film and this new 're-
telling'[or whatever it is], Heston was in a much bigger place in
terms of stature and career IMO.

Best Wishes!
J.

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In a message dated 5/29/01 9:30:31 PM, happyfortune@... writes:

<< In terms of paralelling the original film and this new 're-telling'[or
whatever it is], Heston was in a much bigger place in terms of stature and
career IMO. >>

I think we can all agree on that, but at the time of the production of the
original POTA, they needed a star of Heston's stature to get the film made in
the first place. Now, it is an established property that can almost sell
itself. Getting an up-and-coming actor who has some skill like Whalberg was a
good move IMO. I like him as an actor and am curious to see what he brings to
the table. Most will admit that he was amazing as Dirk Diggler.

Matt

.htmlIn a message dated 5/29/01 8:30:22 PM Central Daylight Time,
happyfortune@... writes:

In terms of paralelling the original film and this new 're-
telling'[or whatever it is], Heston was in a much bigger place in
terms of stature and career IMO.

Best Wishes!
J.

I agree with ya!

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I did a virus scan with both Norton's and McAfee to get rid of it. Once you
open it, it sends itself to everyone in your address book. From there, I
don't know what it does. Both programs easily found it and I could delete it
from my system. I would suggest either one.

Lewis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken & Heather Taylor" <kentaylor@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: virus warning!!!!!!!!


> Hey kids,
> Michael Whitty rang me to tell me that he mistakenly opened the exe.
attachment
> to Lewis's email. Does any one have the details on this particular virus
and how
> to get rid of it? Michael doesn't want to send any emails until he's sure
he's
> safe to do so.
> Thanks and regards,
> KEN
>
> Lewis Pierson wrote:
>
> > I certainly hope no one was screwed. I have enjoyed the group for a
long
> > time now and recieved quite a bit of information. You guys really
dissect
> > the POTA movies in depth. I have watched the movies over and over again
just
> > trying to pick out something that was mentioned on the group that I
missed.
> >
> > Lewis
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: virus warning!!!!!!!!
> >
> > > No sweat, Lewis. Doesn't look like anyone got screwed. Hope you are
> > > enjoying the group.
> >
> - - - -
> > > Jeff K.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Lewis Pierson" <lpierson@...>
> > > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 9:54 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: virus warning!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks. I used Norton's Anti-virus to get rid of it. But, I think
I'll
> > try
> > > > the one you suggested because this is the second time within a
couple of
> > > > months. Thanks for the info.
> > > >
> > > > Lewis
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Mez Downes" <mdownes@...>
> > > > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 11:59 PM
> > > > Subject: [pota] Re: virus warning!!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > what happened was that I opened an attachement I got from
someone
> > > > > > I work with. I thought it was a joke or something but i found
> > > > > > myself in a real mess.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lewis
> > > > >
> > > > > The same thing almost happened to me last year via an e-mail from
a
> > > > > friend...My virus scanner caught it before I could click on it,
thank
> > > > > goodness. I hope you're able to clear it off your system quickly,
and
> > > > > if you don't have one I'd suggest installing a virus scanner (if
it's
> > > > > your home computer). InoculateIT is free from Computer Associates
and
> > > > > works in the background continuously -- register to download it
here:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://antivirus.ca.com/ipe_registration.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > /Mez
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
>
>
>
>
>

<< So because it is a different time line now,then things will be
different.ALL
the dogs and cats are killed by the plague,and the apes genetic engineering
can be quicker in kicking in which of course leads to a much shorter time
for
this 2nd revolt to happen,which it does.Then the Caesar revolt happens as
does the story of Battle,which leads to who knows what..... >>

By that reckoning, I'd say, Zira & Cornelius brought the dog & cat plague
with them. It stands to reason that since they aren't affected by it, that
they are carriers of it.

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...that ol' beat up sarcophagus thing from the first film?

Brian

Vote Ape! Vote for the ONLY future!

M

>
> Unless it happened in the UK, in which case we'd have video evidence
> of Prescott decking Cornelius. ;) /Mez
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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.htmlHey everyone,

I was talking privately with Matt, who wishes he had a BENEATH 1-sheet, about
what I thought of that poster.

I think it's kind of boring.  It shouls have had the image of Ursus and the
mutant on it, as the 3-sheet, insert and window card do.

I was wondering something. . . .  Which original APES poster do you like
best?  I assume all of you have seen what the original 1-sheet posters looked
like.  They're at the end of the "Behind the Planet of the Apes" documentary,
and they're shown in the Inkworks card set.

Please say why you like the poster best, and why you don't like others.

I for one LOVE the PLANET 1-sheet, though many think it dull.  I think that
image of the outdoor cage is great, and the picture of Dr. Zaius very cool --
but then I've been living with it since I was eight.  I think BENEATH's
1-sheet is unimaginative.  They could have done much better.  I think
ESCAPE's is great, though maybe they shouldn't have had the three astroapes
shown with their helmets off.  CONQUEST's is awesome and really makes you
want to see the movie.  BATTLE's -- well, like the film, I find this one a
real comedown.  BUT, maybe if what was shown in that poster's art had really
been in the movie, BATTLE might have been better.

Anyway, what do YOU think?

-- Rory

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Time: 08:30 to 09:00 and 15:30 to 16:00 (30 minutes long).
When: Friday 1st June on Sci-Fi

A Century of Sci-Fi
'Sci-Fi Stars'
Introduced by Christopher Lee. A look at the actors who have played
heroes in SF movies - from Charlton Heston in Planet of the Apes to
Arnold Schwarzenegger in The Terminator.

/Mez

> ...I was wondering something. . . . Which original APES poster do
> you like best? ...
> -- Rory

I think you mean from the films, but my favorite has always been
the 'GO APE' poster. That gorilla grabbed me and shook me to
attention as a child, and it still has that effect every time I see
it. /Mez

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.html Personally, I liked the posters on the German video releases.  Very Cool!  Comic book style, really exciting. Not accurate (Ursus/Urko is on nearly every cover) but great art!

Most of the foreign theatrical posters were more interesting than the US versions, although the Italian BATTLE poster is downright hysterical!!!  Complete with lazerguns, Flying saucers and the Starship Enterprize!!!  Wowzerz!  That's a movie I would've like to have seen!

Brian

Haristas@... wrote:

Hey everyone,

I was talking privately with Matt, who wishes he had a BENEATH 1-sheet, about
what I thought of that poster.

I think it's kind of boring.  It shouls have had the image of Ursus and the
mutant on it, as the 3-sheet, insert and window card do.

I was wondering something. . . .  Which original APES poster do you like
best?  I assume all of you have seen what the original 1-sheet posters looked
like.  They're at the end of the "Behind the Planet of the Apes" documentary,
and they're shown in the Inkworks card set.

Please say why you like the poster best, and why you don't like others.

I for one LOVE the PLANET 1-sheet, though many think it dull.  I think that
image of the outdoor cage is great, and the picture of Dr. Zaius very cool --
but then I've been living with it since I was eight.  I think BENEATH's
1-sheet is unimaginative.  They could have done much better.  I think
ESCAPE's is great, though maybe they shouldn't have had the three astroapes
shown with their helmets off.  CONQUEST's is awesome and really makes you
want to see the movie.  BATTLE's -- well, like the film, I find this one a
real comedown.  BUT, maybe if what was shown in that poster's art had really
been in the movie, BATTLE might have been better.

Anyway, what do YOU think?

-- Rory
 
 

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Here's those German APES video boxes I was talking about earlier.

Enjoy!

Brian

Heads up!

The Globe rag mag has a nice spread on the new movie with lots of pics,
including a pic of Chuck & Linda with the Zaius from Apemania!




T

Hey, what ever happened the e-mail I sent?
Damn itYahoo, don't start with me again.

Anywho, The Globe has a nice spread on 66-67, with Chuck and Linda and Zaius
from Apemania.

"I love that story!"

LordTZer0@... wrote:

> Hey, what ever happened the e-mail I sent?
> Damn itYahoo, don't start with me again.
>
> Anywho, The Globe has a nice spread on 66-67, with Chuck and Linda and Zaius
> from Apemania.
>
>
>
>

In a message dated 5/30/01 7:05:17 PM Central Daylight Time,
afryt4u@... writes:

<< Complete with lazerguns, Flying saucers and the Starship Enterprize!!!
Wowzerz! That's a movie I would've like to have seen! >>

I think we all would have like to see the Starsip Enterprise make a stop at
the Planet of the Apes. With phasers blazing, and burn some holes in gorilla
asses. If no one wants to make this film, I will.

In a message dated 5/30/01 7:05:17 PM Central Daylight Time,
afryt4u@... writes:

<< Most of the foreign theatrical posters were more interesting than the US
versions, although the Italian BATTLE poster is downright hysterical!!! >>

Ya know, I think Burton has this poster. This seems to be the movie he was
trying to make! Hurling humans 60 feet through the air.

.htmlIn a message dated 5/31/01 12:18:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
afryt4u@... writes:

Here's those German APES video boxes I was talking about earlier.

Enjoy!

Brian

Yeah, those German video boxes are interesting.  They're certainly into
images of powerful gorillas -- I wonder why Germans would be into such
imagery?!!!

Anyway, I've never seen that Italian BATTLE poster you talked about.   It
sounds pretty wild.  The French BATTLE poster is certainly better than the US
one.  Some say the French PLANET poster is the best for that film, but I
don't know.  I dislike the Polish PLANET poster, much too strange, however I
think it's the Yugoslavian or Czechoslovian PLANET poster that looks like
POTA meets YELLOW SUBMARINE.  That's pretty cool.

-- Rory<.html

In a message dated 5/31/01 12:17:55 AM, afryt4u@... writes:

<< Here's those German APES video boxes I was talking about earlier. >>

Those are pretty wild. I wonder if they had permission to use some of the
artwork from the old Marvel mags or if they just swiped them.

Matt

In a message dated 5/31/01 7:10:32 AM, Haristas@... writes:

<< I dislike the Polish PLANET poster, much too strange, however I
think it's the Yugoslavian or Czechoslovian PLANET poster that looks like
POTA meets YELLOW SUBMARINE. >>

Can you post some of these Rory?

Matt

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In a message dated 5/31/01 10:24:40 AM Central Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< Thanks for the Heads up T, I'll look into it tomorrow.
Hopefuly I can get a few good scans for the site. >>

Not a prob Al. Here's a rough scan of the spread.

In a message dated 5/31/01 1:49:25 AM Central Daylight Time,
kentaylor@... writes:

<< "I love that story!" >>

& I love the line revealed in the spread that is uttered by Heston's
character.
Classically ironic. A bit of a spoiler, don't read it if you don't wanna
know.
Good anecdote from Linda about MCD.

Hey Everybody, John here. Just got back from a long weekend up at Cape
Cod. Had a great time. Lots of posts to catch up on. Favorite Movie Moments:
Planet: The Crash, The Hunt, Firehose/Madhouse, The Trial, SOL. And any time
Nova's on screen. Beneath: Ursus' speech, Mutant Telepathic Interrogation,
Final Battle in St.Pat's. And anytime Nova's on screen. Escape: Ape's in
Astro Suits, Shopping, Grape Juice Plus, Ship Graveyard. Conquest: The
Opening Credits, Caeser picking his name, "There are no chimpanzees in
Borneo" The Final Shot with that great cheesy burning building effect.
Battle: Aldo at school, Mutant Army Attack, "Now, fight like Apes!" TV
Series: Not a real fan. Well, back to the posts.

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has this been posted to the group yet?

http://www.suntory.co.jp/news/2001/7924.html"

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Was in my local Border's bookstore and picked up the new edition of PB's
1960's novel. I have an old copy that I bought from a used bookstore when I
was 7 or 8 which I have always been afraid, that if I tried to read the book
it would fall apart. So now around 20 years after I bought my first copy for
$0.25, I am finally getting around to actually reading the damn thing...

Chad

In a message dated 6/1/01 12:56:58 PM, DrZira3978@... writes:

<< Was in my local Border's bookstore and picked up the new edition of PB's
1960's novel. I have an old copy that I bought from a used bookstore when I
was 7 or 8 which I have always been afraid, that if I tried to read the book
it would fall apart. So now around 20 years after I bought my first copy for
$0.25, I am finally getting around to actually reading the damn thing... >>

Well congrats! Let us know what you think. It's a great book in my opinion.

Matt

Through the magic of eBay, I was able to pick up a copy of Cinefantastique's
Summer 1972 issue. This is the one that was dedicated to POTA and it is a
fascinating artifact of its time. It has brief interviews with all of the
movers and shakers that made the POTA phenomenon happen. Unfortunately, most
of them are dead (Arthur Jacobs, Pierre Boulle, Franklin Schaffner, Roddy
McDowell, Maurice Evans, Paul Dehn, Don Taylor, Rod Serling, Michael Wilson).
The other interviews are with Charlton Heston, Kim Hunter, Ted Post, J. Lee
Thompson, John Chambers, William Creber and Jerry Goldsmith. The issue came
out before CONQUEST and at the time it seems like the general consensus was
the POTA was great, BENEATH was a bit sloppy and ESCAPE was very highly
regarded.

One thing that I found interesting is that it seems like a lot of the info
from the BEHIND THE PLANET OF THE APES documentary was lifted directly from
this magazine. Another thing that I found amusing was an apperent
disagreement between Jacobs and Boulle. In reference to the Statue of Liberty
ending Jacobs said "I sent the finished script back to Boulle, and he wrote
back, saying he thought it was more inventive than his own ending, and wished
that he had thought of it when he wrote the book." Interestingly, in Boulle's
interview section he says: "I disliked somewhat, the ending that was used -
the Statue of Liberty - which critics seemed to like, but personally, I
prefer my own."

I got the magazine for just over $15. My bid was around $6 until some guy
named mlcougar came in and jacked the price up for me (no hard feelings ml, I
know you gotta do what you gotta do). If anyone needs this magazine for their
collection, I highly suggest hunting down a copy.

Matt

.htmlIn a message dated 6/1/01 11:51:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:

. Another thing that I found amusing was an apperent
disagreement between Jacobs and Boulle. In reference to the Statue of
Liberty
ending Jacobs said "I sent the finished script back to Boulle, and he wrote
back, saying he thought it was more inventive than his own ending, and
wished
that he had thought of it when he wrote the book." Interestingly, in
Boulle's
interview section he says: "I disliked somewhat, the ending that was used -
the Statue of Liberty - which critics seemed to like, but personally, I
prefer my own."

It's sometimes hard to know what the truth is situations such as this.  When
a movie is successful everyone wants to take credit or at least part of the
credit, and wants eveyone to think that all involved were of one mind and
enthusiastic about how things were done.  Afterall, what is one to say?  
"Well, actually so and so thought it was shit, but we did it that way anyhow
and it works, so fuck him."  No, you paint a pretty picture for public
consumption.  It goes way back to the old Hollywood publicity departments at
the studios.  Anyway, I think Jacobs told the story of how the Statue of
Liberty final just came to him and one-time director Blake Edwards as they
were leaving a deli.  But, it's known now that Rod Serling came up with it --
and HE got it from someplace else.  The image of a ruined, half-buried Statue
of Liberty appeared on some Sci-Fi mag covers years before.  I believe what
Boulle most objected to was Serling introducing nuclear war as the means of
man's downfall.  This was antithetical to Boulle's idea of human intellectual
laziness being the cause of the reversal of man and ape.

-- Rory<.html

In a message dated 6/1/01 11:57:10 AM Central Daylight Time,
DrZira3978@... writes:

<< So now around 20 years after I bought my first copy for
$0.25, I am finally getting around to actually reading the damn thing... >>

What's the cover like?
Is it the same as the old one?
What's it going for these days?

<< "I sent the finished script back to Boulle, and he wrote
back, saying he thought it was more inventive than his own ending, and
wished
that he had thought of it when he wrote the book." Interestingly, in
Boulle's
interview section he says: "I disliked somewhat, the ending that was used -
the Statue of Liberty - which critics seemed to like, but personally, I
prefer my own." >>

Like most Frogs, he a damned liar! I'd say the former is most likely the
truth. Privately he was envious of Serling's ending, but of course he
couldn't publicly admit it.

In a message dated 6/1/01 11:18:21 PM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:

<< The image of a ruined, half-buried Statue of Liberty appeared on some
Sci-Fi mag covers years before. >>

I'd sure like to know who wrote that schtinkin' story anywho! I think as
Apes fans it's up to us to find out just who it was that first came up with
that idea. For the record!

.htmlIn a message dated 6/1/01 10:51:01 PM Central Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:

I got the magazine for just over $15. My bid was around $6 until some guy
named mlcougar came in and jacked the price up for me (no hard feelings ml,
I
know you gotta do what you gotta do). If anyone needs this magazine for
their
collection, I  highly suggest hunting down a copy.

Matt

Matt,

No hard feelings at all.I wanted that issue too.And believe me,if it hadn't
been me "jacking the price up" it would have been someone else.I know,I was
outbid on that issue before.

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Hey Mez,

Just got my box set from Michael, I am now unavailable to the outside
world for the next 24 hours.... Yehaaaa !

Daniel

In a message dated 6/2/01 1:54:28 AM EST, LordTZer0@... writes:

> << So now around 20 years after I bought my first copy for
> $0.25, I am finally getting around to actually reading the damn thing...
>>
>
> What's the cover like?
> Is it the same as the old one?
> What's it going for these days?

Cover is of an extreme close-up of a Gorilla from the new movie (why is it
ALWAYS the Gorilla's on everything???). Cover price is $6.99.

Chad

Hey that A-Z Guide to Summer (POTA is supposed to be P) is on at Noon, 5pm,
11:30pm. It is 2 hours, I'll let you guys know if anything worthwhile is on
it.

Chad

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.htmlDaniel,do you have the pal format for ape series videos?Or do you have to
convert them to regular us vhs format like i will have to do .Did you get all
six tapes? Or only 1 box set? Have fun I am waiting for mine to arrive this
week probabley june 9th then a week to get them converted over .Where about
do you live? Dont forget nov 20th tv show hits dvd  BRYAN  KAY53531@...<.html

.htmlDear Michael after seeing Daniels excitement over his ape series i cant wait
till mine arrive as well .Did my letter get to you in 3 days?The post office
said 5.00 for global priority.DO you have the planet of apes lunch box i am
trying to locate one any leads?       BRYAN   KAY53531@...<.html

In a message dated 06/02/2001 2:02:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Kay53531@... writes:

<< Daniel,do you have the pal format for ape series videos?Or do you have to
convert them to regular us vhs format like i will have to do .Did you get
all
six tapes? Or only 1 box set? Have fun I am waiting for mine to arrive this
week probabley june 9th then a week to get them converted over .Where about
do you live? Dont forget nov 20th tv show hits dvd BRYAN KAY53531@...

>>

I don't mean to offend, but why are you guys paying so much for these VHS
videos, that have to be sent from so far, that then have to be converted from
PAL to NTSC, when the POTA TV show will be out on DVD in November with much
better picture quality and sound and at a MUCH LOWER price?!!!!

What are you guys, crazy about APES or somethin'?!!!! LOL!!!!!

-- Rory

In a message dated 06/02/2001 2:25:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Kay53531@... writes:

<< DO you have the planet of apes lunch box i am
trying to locate one any leads? BRYAN KAY53531@... >>

The POTA 'hunt club' suggests you look for your game on eBay.

-- Rory

.htmlClick here: Rod Serling's Planet of the Apes script metamorphosis - go here
to learn the history of how Rod Serling came up with the Statue of Liberty
ending for POTA.<.html

In a message dated 06/02/2001 7:49:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Taylor401306@... writes:

<< <A HREF="http://www.rodserling.com/POTA.htm">Click here: Rod Serling's
Planet of the Apes script metamorphosis</A> - go here
to learn the history of how Rod Serling came up with the Statue of Liberty
ending for POTA. >>

Yeah, I've read this before. You know there's funny thing in that picture of
the cast they show on the first page. The guy between Charlton Heston and
Kim Hunter's Zira is the cinematographer, Leon Shamroy -- ONLY that's some
other guy's head on his body!!! Very strange.

-- Rory