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I'm at Barnes & Noble today, perusing the mag rack. I check out Playboy
because, you know, its there...In the backpage listing for the next issue
there's a Tim Burton Interview. I remember Rory mentioning some time back
that Linda H. may do a spread. Hmmmm, We'll, keep you eyes open for that
one. John

In a message dated 6/6/01 7:02:35 PM Central Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< I strongly agree with you Rory, they will be missed.
But on the other hand a seqaul to Zira, Cornelius, Zaius and the rest could
never be made because all were clearly killed off in the films. So I don't
see how a sequal of anykind can undo that. >>

You're right there, however a prequel could be made, showing, for example,
Cornelius' first trip to the forbidden zone. Or Zaius' climb up the ladder
of power only to become the keeper of the "terrible secret". Or Zira's early
studies in comparative analysis of humans and apes. It might not be the
action flick the original was, but still interesting. Zira and Cornelius
meeting at the Academy and comparing theories only to have his archeological
expedition later canceled by Zaius.

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.htmlIn a message dated 6/6/01 9:25:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

You're right there, however a prequel could be made, showing, for example,
Cornelius' first trip to the forbidden zone.  Or Zaius' climb up the ladder
of power only to become the keeper of the "terrible secret".  Or Zira's
early
studies in comparative analysis of humans and apes.  It might not be the
action flick the original was, but still interesting.  Zira and Cornelius
meeting at the Academy and comparing theories only to have his
archeological
expedition later canceled by Zaius.

It's a great idea for ape fans that's for sure, but how many people will go
see a prequal based on a 30 year old movie that hasn't been in the main
stream for almost as long? Prequals are a great whole new idea by Lucas,
but Star Wars on the other hand is clearly a whole diffrent movie MONSTER.

I mean come on Rory lets be real about this.

Best,
Alex  

Hey!  I didn't write the above, Alex!  I think that was T.  Anyway, I'd want
to see a faithful adaptation of the Boulle book -- that's the new POTA movie
I'd make -- then for the sequels to that someone else could go crazy.

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 6/6/01 6:44:50 PM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:

secondly, it isn't going to look or feel like the original
movie OR any of the sequels.  It going to be almost entirely new

Rory,

Thank you for saying what I said a long time ago.

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.htmlIn a message dated 6/6/01 7:36:05 PM Central Daylight Time, LordTZer0@...
writes:

You're right there, however a prequel could be made, showing, for example,
Cornelius' first trip to the forbidden zone.  Or Zaius' climb up the ladder
of power only to become the keeper of the "terrible secret".  Or Zira's
early
studies in comparative analysis of humans and apes.  It might not be the
action flick the original was, but still interesting.  Zira and Cornelius
meeting at the Academy and comparing theories only to have his
archeological
expedition later canceled by Zaius.

"T",

Not B.S.in' you here either.Those really are good ideas and much more of what
those dips at Fox SHOULD have made.At least your ideas are what tie into
Apes.You aren't "reimagining" or "reinventing" anything.You are on the ball
with your ideas.Too bad you aren't a Fox executive....

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secondly, it isn't going to look or feel like the original
movie OR any of the sequels.  It going to be almost entirely new

Rory,

Thank you for saying what I said a long time ago.

 

 

How true.

I think what I like most about the new reimaging is that the original was excellent for the time, as a child growing up.

But now as an adult, this new rivist will have more of an adult theme. And agin excellent for the time.

 

for example:

 

original: "why do men have no souls?"

 

revisit: "IS THERE A SOUL IN THERE!!"

 

RULE THE PLANET TIM!

 

Best,

Alex

 

 

 

 

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.htmlDid anyone else see the article about Tim Roth in the last Premiere Magazine?
 The one where he talked about having talked to Roddy McDowall about
McDowall's time working on APES?

I posted a thing about it, but no one responded.

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Thanks Alex, I'll keep my eyes and bananas peeled. Go Apes! John

.html A journalist friend of mine attended the awards and said that a bunch of Apes line dance during the show. He didn't say if it was funny or not but he said the costumes looked good.
Kind of a goofy stunt to pull prior to the release of the film. What kind of tone are they trying to set by lampooning the new movie before it's even been released? I guess they're trying to make it look 'hip' for the kids.
Best,
KEN

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

Hey guys.Don't miss the POTA spot on the MTV MOVIE AWARDS tomorrow!POTA parody will be done on the awards show. Check for your local listings in your area. Best and have a great night.Alex

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I'd certainly pay to see any of these ideas explored - but I doubt the
general public would.

That's why I like the idea of POTA comics - as a medium to allow such ideas
to see fruition.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2001 10:34
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: POTENTIAL SPOILER ALERT

In a message dated 6/6/01 7:02:35 PM Central Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< I strongly agree with you Rory, they will be missed.
But on the other hand a seqaul to Zira, Cornelius, Zaius and the rest could
never be made because all were clearly killed off in the films. So I don't
see how a sequal of anykind can undo that. >>

You're right there, however a prequel could be made, showing, for example,
Cornelius' first trip to the forbidden zone. Or Zaius' climb up the ladder
of power only to become the keeper of the "terrible secret". Or Zira's
early
studies in comparative analysis of humans and apes. It might not be the
action flick the original was, but still interesting. Zira and Cornelius
meeting at the Academy and comparing theories only to have his archeological
expedition later canceled by Zaius.

.html In a message dated 6/6/01 7:36:05 PM Central Daylight Time, LordTZer0@...
writes:

You're right there, however a prequel could be made, showing, for example,
Cornelius' first trip to the forbidden zone.  Or Zaius' climb up the ladder
of power only to become the keeper of the "terrible secret".  Or Zira's
early
studies in comparative analysis of humans and apes.  It might not be the
action flick the original was, but still interesting.  Zira and Cornelius
meeting at the Academy and comparing theories only to have his
archeological
expedition later canceled by Zaius.

"T",

Not B.S.in' you here either.Those really are good ideas and much more of what
those dips at Fox SHOULD have made.At least your ideas are what tie into
Apes.You aren't "reimagining" or "reinventing" anything.You are on the ball
with your ideas.Too bad you aren't a Fox executive....

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .
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secondly, it isn't going to look or feel like the original
movie OR any of the sequels.  It going to be almost entirely new

Rory,

Thank you for saying what I said a long time ago.

 

 

How true.

I think what I like most about the new reimaging is that the original was excellent for the time, as a child growing up.

But now as an adult, this new rivist will have more of an adult theme. And agin excellent for the time.

 

for example:

 

original: "why do men have no souls?"

 

revisit: "IS THERE A SOUL IN THERE!!"

 

RULE THE PLANET TIM!

 

Best,

Alex

 

 

 

 

 

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .
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<< It's a great idea for ape fans that's for sure, but how many people will
go see a prequal based on a 30 year old movie that hasn't been in the main
stream for almost as long? Prequals are a great whole new idea by Lucas, but
Star Wars on the other hand is clearly a whole diffrent movie MONSTER.

I mean come on Rory lets be real about this. >>

Naaaah . . . Flintstone Kids predates it by 14 years. And the first SW film
is over 23 years old. So what? And don't call me Rory!

In a message dated 6/6/01 9:05:43 PM Central Daylight Time, mlccougar@...
writes:

<< You are on the ball with your ideas.Too bad you aren't a Fox
executive.... >>

I will be!
Sooner or later. Sooner if they keep making sucky movies.

>30 year-old movies...

That's why the 'prequel' novel I wrote had none of the orginal characters,
but could be related to the original film, or stand alone.

M

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Was there ever an explanation as to where Ursus was during the first
film, I mean he just kinda appeared in Beneath as a major character.
I like to think he had been away on some long campaign exterminating
other tribes of humans, (now that would make a nice prequel!).

Daniel

P.S.
I haven't ever been to Florida but I have been to Vegas, am I still
ok to post ?

In a message dated 6/7/01 5:44:21 AM, daniel225nma@... writes:

<< Was there ever an explanation as to where Ursus was during the first
film, I mean he just kinda appeared in Beneath as a major character.
I like to think he had been away on some long campaign exterminating
other tribes of humans, (now that would make a nice prequel!). >>

Daniel,

Write up a paragraph or two that elaborates on this concept! I love reading
this kind of stuff! I have written a bunch of stuff like this on the list,
but I don't think too many besides Rory reads it.

Matt

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Hey Gang,

We lugged the newly finished Dr. Zaius mannequin over to the park today to
take some pix of
of it for the website. The photos came out really cool, 'cept for a few of
them that have this porn
star Tiffany Minx in them. I tell you, the good ol' Doc can charm the best,
..err "biggest" of them!!!

Enjoy!

Bri

Brian <afryt4u@...> wrote:

>We lugged the newly finished Dr. Zaius mannequin over to the park today to
>take some pix of
>of it for the website. The photos came out really cool, 'cept for a few of
>them that have this porn
>star Tiffany Minx in them. I tell you, the good ol' Doc can charm the

best,

>..err "biggest" of them!!!

Wow, I'd love one of them in my bedroom.

The Zaius mannequin would be cool too.

Alan

.html Yeah, but that sure would take more silicone than we have in stock!  HooWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

B

Alan Maxwell wrote:

 
Wow, I'd love one of them in my bedroom.

The Zaius mannequin would be cool too.

Alan

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.htmlBrian,

Dr. Zaius looks like he needs a haircut.   Shorter bangs, nothing falling on
the shoulders, and some curl to the beard hair.

Rory the stickler<.html

.html Who's looking at Zaius?  Dude, you need to get out more! (heheh!)

(points taken though...heating up the curling irons as we speak.)

Haristas@... wrote:

Brian,

Dr. Zaius looks like he needs a haircut.   Shorter bangs, nothing falling on
the shoulders, and some curl to the beard hair.

Rory the stickler

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<< Was there ever an explanation as to where Ursus was during the first
film, I mean he just kinda appeared in Beneath as a major character.
I like to think he had been away on some long campaign exterminating
other tribes of humans, (now that would make a nice prequel!). >>

I believe he was just a corporal in the army and a painter, then he wrote
Mine Korn and the rest, as they say, is history.

Just got my confirmation from amazon for the POTA "Unofficial" Guide.
They shipped it today by UPS. Hmmm....Unofficial Guide........ Everbody
enjoy the MTV Movie Awards, Go Apes, John

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comments pahleez.

B

Haristas@... wrote:

Brian,

Dr. Zaius looks like he needs a haircut.   Shorter bangs, nothing falling on
the shoulders, and some curl to the beard hair.

Rory the stickler

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Alexander Ruiz wrote:

No, but all BS aside, when was that CNN coverage done on your

site Brian? Was that just current?

Alex

Yeah, Alex.  It was a few weeks ago, but I don't believe it has aired yet.  It was for CNN Espanol. They'll let us know when it will be airing.  Looks like we are going to be doing on for the Japanese next.  Famous Monsters and Fangoria are on the burner too.

Busy busy busy...

B

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 8:28 PM

Subject: [pota] Zaius Haircuts et al

Here you go Rory,  we've snipped and trimmed abit.

comments pahleez.

B

Haristas@... wrote:

Brian,

Dr. Zaius looks like he needs a haircut.   Shorter bangs, nothing falling on
the shoulders, and some curl to the beard hair.

Rory the stickler

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On right know!

.htmlIn a message dated 6/7/01 8:32:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
afryt4u@... writes:

Here you go Rory,  we've snipped and trimmed abit. comments pahleez. B

Well, since you asked. . . .  It's very good, of course, HOWEVER the bangs
are still too long and now I notice the nose hasn't been sculpted just right.
 Look at that black and white photo again.  I was just looking at an original
8x10 I have of that shot not more than a half hour ago.

It's a good thing I don't have the money to commission you guys to make me
one of those mannequins -- I'd drive you guys nuts!

-- Rory the SUPERstickler<.html

Sorry about that last frantic post. Nice bit they did. They talked about
Helena & Estella. Liked the clips they showed, except for one thing that
looked kinda silly. Don't want to spoil anything. But it was nothing, really.
Gonna go watch the rest of the show. John

<< It's a good thing I don't have the money to commission you guys to make
me
one of those mannequins -- I'd drive you guys nuts! >>

Just wait until I get the money for a Zira! I'll drivie you nuts.
For that kind of dough I will expect nothing less than perfection.

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Hey Rory,

Thanx for the feedback.   We stare at this stuff so much that we can get desensitized to it.   Every little bit of input from the "real word" helps us to make a better product in the long run.  Likenesses are really tough, especially when choosing a pose or expression that's nuetral or in-between all of the varied reference fotos available.  My biggest gripe are the eyes.  On any head, they're a b*@ch and a half to get even halfway close to "right" looking.

That B&W is an actual signed copy out of my personal collection.  One of my two favorites, but not a good reference for sculpture because he's smiling and all scrunched up.  Good for the hair though.

As for driving us nuts, try having a hi-end client that lives less than a mile from your studio.  Sometimes I feel I have to hide my car somewhere so he won't keep dropping in un-announced so much!   I guess he feels the "by ape-pointment  only" sign doesn't ape-ply to him.  Everytime he stops by for a visit it's 30 minutes to an hour of delays and distractions.  UGH!

Anyway, all is grand.

Now it's onto the CAESAR statue!  Whahoo!

Brian
 

Haristas@... wrote:

In a message dated 6/7/01 8:32:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
afryt4u@... writes:
 
 

Here you go Rory,  we've snipped and trimmed abit. comments pahleez. B

Well, since you asked. . . .  It's very good, of course, HOWEVER the bangs
are still too long and now I notice the nose hasn't been sculpted just right.
 Look at that black and white photo again.  I was just looking at an original
8x10 I have of that shot not more than a half hour ago.

It's a good thing I don't have the money to commission you guys to make me
one of those mannequins -- I'd drive you guys nuts!

-- Rory the SUPERstickler

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Shelby Rhodes wrote:

 That looks great Brian!  I love seeing behind the scenes pics from your workshop! It is a little disconcerting to see ape heads without bodies though ;)

It's even creepier when they roll over and say, "not bad, for a human," to you in the airlock!

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Alexander Ruiz wrote:

 
 

Great Brian,

Let me know when it airs Brian and I'll post it on my site in Real Player format.
 
 

Keep up the great work.

Your Zaius ROCKS!!!
 
 

Best,

Alex
 

You got it man!

B

PS:  Someday I'd like to meet all the folks in this webgroup.  Seems like we all know eachother already.

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.html Funny you should say that.  That's next on the list for the guy who commissioned the Zauis.

He recently bought the original chair from Corn's & Zira's house in BENEATH and wants us to make a seated Zira and baby Milo ala the ESCAPE poster (US), so after we get the CAESAR statue and the HONORIUS restoration completed, we'll be moving onto a really good Zira sculpture.

I don't like the one we currently have in our merchandise line (never really did).  It kinda reminds me of those wackey "blow-up Suzy" busts that guy in New York was trying to pass off on eBay awhile back, only not as bad as those were.

I've said too much....

B
 
 

LordTZer0@... wrote:

<<  It's a good thing I don't have the money to commission you guys to make
me
 one of those mannequins -- I'd drive you guys nuts! >>

Just wait until I get the money for a Zira!  I'll drivie you nuts.
For that kind of dough I will expect nothing less than perfection.
 
 

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.html PS:  Start saving your dough.  Planet Hollywood is planning to auction off it's stock of Original POTA costumes about the same time as the release of the new movie.  Rumor has it they have some Kim Hunter outfits.

B

LordTZer0@... wrote:

<<  It's a good thing I don't have the money to commission you guys to make
me
 one of those mannequins -- I'd drive you guys nuts! >>

Just wait until I get the money for a Zira!  I'll drivie you nuts.
For that kind of dough I will expect nothing less than perfection.
 
 

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<< we'll be moving onto a really good Zira sculpture. >>

Way cool! I can't wait to see the Pics!
If you need it critiqued I'd be happy to give you my highly biased opinion.


Keep up the good work,
T

<< Planet Hollywood is planning to auction off
it's stock of Original POTA costumes about the same time as the release of
the
new movie. Rumor has it they have some Kim Hunter outfits. >>


It will be mine. Oh yes! . . . It will be mine.

.htmlWell, I don't know about the rest of you, but I think this awards show is
kinda lame.  I've given up on it before it's even over.  The dancing apes at
the beginning were on for such a short time you hardly got a good look at
them.  I taped it and played it back and STILL didn't see much.  What could
be seen was sort of cool.  The make-up in the new film will be interesting to
look at.

Okay, I'm done for the evening.  BYE!

-- Rory<.html

They ran a Spot at 10:47PM Eastern on the MTV Movie awards. Figured
they'd make us wait 'till the end. I guess it's number 3. Looked very cool.
"THIS FILM IS NOT YET RATED" I guess it'll probably be PG-13. The dancing
apes were alright, I guess. Although some of them had on funny looking hats.
They loped off the stage. Nice, Go Apes, John

That looks fricking amazing Brian! If you hadn't said it was a mannequin I
would have been fooled that it was some long lost pic of Maurice Evans.

Matt

In a message dated 6/7/01 9:33:49 PM, LordTZer0@... writes:

<< Just wait until I get the money for a Zira! I'll drivie you nuts.
For that kind of dough I will expect nothing less than perfection. >>

Hey Brian,

If it's not too personal a question, how much do these mannequins run? Not
that I will have the money for one anytime soon, but I was just curious.

Matt

> Write up a paragraph or two that elaborates on this concept! I love

reading

> this kind of stuff! I have written a bunch of stuff like this on

the list,

> but I don't think too many besides Rory reads it.
>
> Matt

I'd love to Matt but I think I would get so 'into it' that I would
end up doing a billion posts. I have definately read your stuff..
keep it coming...

Daniel

.html Wow!  Thanx for the compliment, Matt.  That means a lot!

B

MTotsky@... wrote:

That looks fricking amazing Brian! If you hadn't said it was a mannequin I
would have been fooled that it was some long lost pic of Maurice Evans.

Matt
 
 
 

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.html Hi Matt,

Hope you're sitting down.  They start at $4,500 (minus the costume).  Almost every client that comes are way has "special needs and requests" so the prices go up from there.  The Milo Ape-o-naut and the Ursus were the two really big ticket items, both of which a person could have bought a decent car for the same money.  Not that I'm complaining, it is just amazing what length some collectors will go to to have a one of a kind piece.

B

MTotsky@... wrote:

In a message dated 6/7/01 9:33:49 PM, LordTZer0@... writes:

<< Just wait until I get the money for a Zira!  I'll drivie you nuts.
For that kind of dough I will expect nothing less than perfection. >>

Hey Brian,

If it's not too personal a question, how much do these mannequins run? Not
that I will have the money for one anytime soon, but I was just curious.

Matt
 
 

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In a message dated 6/8/01 10:31:43 AM, afryt4u@... writes:

<< Wow! Thanx for the compliment, Matt. That means a lot! >>

No problem Brian. I think your stuff is great and you guys obviously have a
lot of fun. What a dream come true to be able to do something you love. I
enjoy checking out your site every few days to see what's new. I think it
would be cool and fascinating if you did some sort of feature there that had
a step-by-step overview of the restoration process and building of the
mannequin.

As for the prices of your pieces, it seems about fair to me. Obviously, these
are items that the average Joe just can't afford, but for those who can it
definately seems like they are getting their money's worth.

Keep up the good work!

Matt

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MTotsky@... wrote:

 
No problem Brian. I think your stuff is great and you guys obviously have a
lot of fun.

We sure do.  I guess that's why we keep doing it.  Tomorrow we are filming a music video for Make-up Artist Magazine for their upcoming International Trade Show.  Sounds like we'll be spoofing the Monkees for footage that they'll edit in with a montage of famous cinema simians through out film history.  Looks to be interesting.
 

What a dream come true to be able to do something you love.

Yeah.  I owe a lot to the Apes and their influence.  It's a lot of work, but we do love it.

I enjoy checking out your site every few days to see what's new. I think it
would be cool and fascinating if you did some sort of feature there that had
a step-by-step overview of the restoration process and building of the
mannequin.

Don't I know it.  We have so many fotos of workshop stuff that it would blow your mind.  Once and a while I'll put more on the already bursting at the seams site.
We have great shots of the Lawgiver, Sarcafagus, Ape-o-Naut, Ursus, Cornelius, etc, as well as many many make-up process fotos of the gang getting ready for shows.

 

As for the prices of your pieces, it seems about fair to me. Obviously, these
are items that the average Joe just can't afford, but for those who can it
definately seems like they are getting their money's worth.

In most cases, we go above and beyond the call of duty, cuz' once we get into a really cool restoration project we can really get into it.  If it's a matter of spending a few extra nights going for that one really cool result, than we'll do it, even if it's not in the budget.

Anywho...back to the grind.

Thanx again for all the positive feedback.

B

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so,which one(s)?<.html

In a message dated 06/09/2001 2:44:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mlccougar@... writes:

<< Does anyone out there know if any of the Apes fan sights have a
chatroom?If
so,which one(s)? >>

As far as I know there are no POTA chat rooms or a room. Why doesn't
somebody start one then we can get on it and maybe in the future there will
be huge battle between "Classic APES" fans and the "New APES" fans for
control of the earth!

-- Rory

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Hey everyone,

I just saw the new film "Evolution." It's a pretty lame film, not funny
enough or spectacular enough with the special effects, in fact, I'm surprised
such a thing got made. It makes "Tremors" look like a masterpiece.

However, POTA fans will be interested to know that it was shot at Lake Powell
and the small town of Page, Arizona. I've been there twice and I've seen
where Taylor's spaceship sunk and where many of the shots during the 'trek'
were filmed. It's a neat place to visit -- but in the last ten years the
town of Page has really grown!

-- Rory

In a message dated 06/09/2001 5:43:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< After viewing the last image posted by Dark Horizons and now currently on
my site at: www.prophecysite.com/ape-army01.jpg

I noticed that film will have a little bit of everthing.
1. The Hunt of Planet
2. The Gorilla March of Beneath
3. The Humor of Escape
4. The Slavery of Conquest
5. The Ape Human War of Battle

Pretty Cool, perhaps they had this in mind, or maybe I'm just probing too
much in to this. Maybe I'm probing too much into this. :o)

Best,
Alex >>


Sounds like they're throwing a lot of things into a stew and stirring it
around. BUT, what have they cooked up, and will anyone like how it tastes?

"You got what you wanted, Tiger. How does it taste?"

-- Rory

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.htmlIn a message dated 6/9/01 3:00:54 PM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:

<< Does anyone out there know if any of the Apes fan sights have a
chatroom?If
so,which one(s)? >>

As far as I know there are no POTA chat rooms or a room.  Why doesn't
somebody start one then we can get on it and maybe in the future there will
be huge battle between "Classic APES" fans and the "New APES" fans for
control of the earth!

-- Rory

Rory,

I took your advice.I started us an Apes chat room on AOL.Now I know this
limits the room to only those members of the group that are AOL members,but
its a start.

Its listed in the catagory "Arts and Entertainment",under the "Created by AOL
members" classification.Its way toward the bottom of the list,so keep
clicking on "List More" until it shows up.It was there when I tested to see
if it was listed.I don't know how much it'll be used,but we'll see I guess.

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.htmlIn a message dated 6/9/01 8:15:59 PM Central Daylight Time, MLCCOUGAR writes:

I took your advice.I started us an Apes chat room on AOL.Now I know this
limits the room to only those members of the group that are AOL members,but
its a start.

Well,I guess I didn't do it correctly,because when I searched for it just a
few minutes ago,it wasn't listed.So,if any AOL members of the group know how
to set up a "Created by AOL members" chat room,please do so.Even though not
all of the group could chat with us,I still think it'd be cool to have one.So
Rory,or LordT,or any other AOL members of this egroup,if you know how to set
one up,please do so.Thanks.

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.htmlIn a message dated 6/9/01 9:43:40 PM Central Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

. I myself would make one but if no one is willing to post on my Bulletin
Board what's the point in making a chat room?

Alex,

Maybe you should consider it anyway.I mean I know what you are saying about
if no one posts,then they probably won't chat either.But I myself would
rather chat with others sometimes rather than just reading all of these
postings from this egroup.So,again,maybe it is something you could look into
adding to your sight.

And this is in no way meant to be anything against the "Official Sight" or
the "new" movie,but I don't think I'd visit their chat room when its up and
going.I think if it does get going,that most people that would be in there
would be fans of the "new" and that maybe they'd look at the Classic Apes as
being too old fashioned or something (to put it lightly).I could be wrong.I'm
not saying I wouldn't go in there,but I do think the "Official Sight's"
chatroom would be biased against the Classic Apes.I say this because it is
run by Fox,and they do seem to be,in their own way,"disowning" the Apes that
I'm a fan of.It seems like they are of the opinion that the new movie is Apes
now and all of what came before is just  meant to be looked at as "old",etc...
So therefore,because of that,I think they will only aim the "Official Sight"
at the followers of the new movie,and that all aspects of the sight will be
geared toward them,including the chatroom.

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Rory,

Just by the commercials I could have told you "Evolution" would suck, but
since you can confirm that I am officially adding it to my "Must-Not-See"
list.

Anyone see "Swordfish?" I had no interest in it until I found out that Halle
Berry shows her cans in it. She seemed pretty proud about the $500,000 extra
she got paid for doing it when she announced it on the MTV Movie Awards.

Matt

.htmlIn a message dated 6/9/01 9:43:40 PM Central Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

Well,I guess I didn't do it correctly,because when I searched for it just a
few minutes ago,it wasn't listed.

I guess I did do it correctly after all.I went into another chat room and a
comp whiz told me that I did it right .Here's the deal:I thought that if you
started a chat room "Created by an AOL member" that it would be listed on the
listing for good.Turns out I was wrong.There has to be someone in the room or
it disappears.I know you're all thinking "How couldn't you know that?"Well
I'll tell you,I know nothing about computers so that should explain it to
you.....<.html

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.htmlIn a message dated 6/9/01 11:35:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:

Rory,

Just by the commercials I could have told you "Evolution" would suck, but
since you can confirm that I am officially adding it to my "Must-Not-See"
list.

Anyone see "Swordfish?" I had no interest in it until I found out that
Halle
Berry shows her cans in it. She seemed pretty proud about the $500,000
extra
she got paid for doing it when she announced it on the MTV Movie Awards.

Matt

"Swordfish" is getting nothing but bad reviews, "Evolution" is getting mostly
'dumb but fun' reviews.  Since it was Sci-Fi of a sort, AND shot at Lake
Powell, well I chose to see it and skip "Swordfish."  I gotta go see
something!   Well, next weekend it's "Tomb Raider."

Also, on the subject of chat rooms. . . . Why don't we just set a time (like
Wed. at 10 PM EST) to all meet at a chat room and see if a conversation can
be sustained?   I don't know why a POTA chat room HAS to be created.  We can
just crash one and take it over, ala CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF THE APES!!!   
How about a Star Wars or Star Trek room?

"Where there is smoke, there is fire!"

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 6/10/01 10:13:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:

I don't know why a POTA chat room HAS to be created.  We can
just crash one and take it over, ala CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF THE APES!!!  
  
How about a Star Wars or Star Trek room?

"Where there is smoke, there is fire!"

Actually I should have quoted:

"But how?!!!   They don't have the intelligence to use such tools!"<.html

I'm all for a POTA chat room! Let me know if someone makes one and at what
time and what site (like Yahoo I think let's you make chat rooms). I could
make one myself on AOL but only AOL users could get in. Let us know!

Loc



In a message dated 6/10/01 9:13:47 AM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:

> In a message dated 6/9/01 11:35:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

MTotsky@...

> writes:
>
>
> > Rory,
> >
> > Just by the commercials I could have told you "Evolution" would suck,

but

> > since you can confirm that I am officially adding it to my

"Must-Not-See"

> > list.
> >
> > Anyone see "Swordfish?" I had no interest in it until I found out that
> > Halle
> > Berry shows her cans in it. She seemed pretty proud about the $500,000
> > extra
> > she got paid for doing it when she announced it on the MTV Movie Awards.
> >
> >
>
> "Swordfish" is getting nothing but bad reviews, "Evolution" is getting
> mostly
> 'dumb but fun' reviews. Since it was Sci-Fi of a sort, AND shot at Lake
> Powell, well I chose to see it and skip "Swordfish." I gotta go see
> something! Well, next weekend it's "Tomb Raider."
>
> Also, on the subject of chat rooms. . . . Why don't we just set a time

(like

>
> Wed. at 10 PM EST) to all meet at a chat room and see if a conversation

can

> be sustained? I don't know why a POTA chat room HAS to be created. We

can

>
> just crash one and take it over, ala CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF THE APES!!!

>
> How about a Star Wars or Star Trek room?
>
> "Where there is smoke, there is fire!"
>
> -- Rory
>

.htmlI've just read on the web that the latest issue of Premiere magazine has a
good article on the new APES, and a cover with Wahlberg and Carter on it?

News to me!  Anybody seen it yet?  Maybe it comes out tomorrow (Monday June
11th).

-- Rory<.html

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.htmlIn a message dated 6/10/01 9:13:54 AM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:

Also, on the subject of chat rooms. . . . Why don't we just set a time (like
Wed. at 10 PM EST) to all meet at a chat room and see if a conversation can
be sustained?   I don't know why a POTA chat room HAS to be created.  We
can
just crash one and take it over, ala CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF THE APES!!!  
  
How about a Star Wars or Star Trek room?

"Where there is smoke, there is fire!"

-- Rory

OK,sounds like a good idea to me.<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 6/10/01 11:16:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

Seeing that you and I are from the same part of the world I myself am
waiting for the next issue. Still hasn't come out yet.

But those who subscribe already have it so it should be coming out soon.

Here the pic.
www.prophecysite.com/premiere-july.jpg

Best,
Alex



Thanks, Alex.  Now I know was wasn't just reading nothing.  Great cover!  
Reminds me of the "ESCAPE" posters.

-- Rory<.html

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Hey Gang,

The next issue of Make-up Artist Magazine June/July issue #31 has a great behind the Make-up scenes of the new Planet of the Apes Film.  A must get!!! <http://www.makeupmag.com/>

Brian
 

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.htmlMATT ,swordfish got great reviews here in phx az,but evolution did not .Do
you think it will be like men in black! Will smith humor? Bryan<.html

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Issue # 1 is out now, get thee to thy comic shop...

Chad

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In a message dated 6/10/01 9:55:19 AM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:

<< I've just read on the web that the latest issue of Premiere magazine has a
good article on the new APES, and a cover with Wahlberg and Carter on it? >>

I got Premiere...It only had a brief thing on Apes and a apic of roth with
ape hands....what issue?

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.htmlIn a message dated 6/10/01 11:53:47 PM Central Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

But I do recall someone creating a chat room here on the e-group, for this
e-group does have a chat room setup. But once it was made, no one chated.

I never knew this.Do you know if its still in existence?<.html

.html <.html

I've opened POTA chat rooms on AOL once or twice, but they close if noone is
in them, so when I left it closed. I had maybe one person stop by that was an
Apes fan. Chat rooms sound like a great idea if we could work out a time and
a place everyone could meet at.

Loc


In a message dated 6/11/01 12:12:10 AM Central Daylight Time,
mlccougar@... writes:

> In a message dated 6/10/01 11:53:47 PM Central Daylight Time,
> prophecysite@... writes:
>
>
> > But I do recall someone creating a chat room here on the e-group, for

this

>
> > e-group does have a chat room setup. But once it was made, no one chated.
>
> I never knew this.Do you know if its still in existence?
>

.htmlClick here: JUNE 17TH CONVENTION

Here's an APES themed comic convention happening in L.A. next month.  If this
link opens on the home page, scroll down and click on 'program' and you'll
see the stuff from the new film.

-- Rory<.html

Anyone planning on being there next week? My wife and I will be there,
let me know. Also, I believe that's Heston on the convention's website
next to Tim Roth.

Esquire has a Heston spread/interview in their July issue (Jon Stewart
on cover)....

Rick

Rick Becker
Technical Support Analyst
Libraries & Public Access to Information Program
BILL & MELINDA GATES foundation
1-800-289-8989






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-- Rory




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Liz Smith has the following in her column today: "I believe "Planet of
the Apes (2001)" will be a big summer hit. It's violent and ugh-making and
probably surefire for the young movie crowd. But Premiere's cover and photos
inside of Helena Bonham Carter if full ape makeup with her half-ape, half
human children, courtesy of Mark Wahlberg's character, plus the make-up
series inside, is stomach turning. Sorry about that." Now, I've got that
issue, didn't really read the article, kinda skimmed it because I'm still
trying to keep it fresh. Sounds like that idiot Smith just looked at the
cover and thought about all the crap about interspecies sex. C'mon Liz! Don't
be sloppy!!!! John

.htmlIn a message dated 6/11/01 9:10:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
JSe3689836@... writes:

    Liz Smith has the following in her column today: "I believe "Planet of
the Apes (2001)" will be a big summer hit. It's violent and ugh-making and
probably surefire for the young movie crowd.  But Premiere's cover and
photos
inside of Helena Bonham Carter if full ape makeup with her half-ape, half
human children, courtesy of Mark Wahlberg's character, plus the make-up
series inside, is stomach turning. Sorry about that."   Now, I've got that
issue, didn't really read the article, kinda skimmed it because I'm still
trying to keep it fresh. Sounds like that idiot Smith just looked at the
cover and thought about all the crap about interspecies sex. C'mon Liz!
Don't
be sloppy!!!!     John

Gee, and it was Liz Smith who back in '68 said of "Planet of the Apes" in
Cosmopolitan was "A Blockbuster Movie!  A genuine 14 caret film.  Big,
fascinating, totally entertaining!"   I guess she's just become an old-fart,
and a sloopy one at that.

-- Rory<.html