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Group: pota Message: 7903 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/11/2001
Subject: Re: F--- Liz Smith
Group: pota Message: 7904 From: DrZira3978@aol.com Date: 6/11/2001
Subject: Re: F--- Liz Smith
Group: pota Message: 7905 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/11/2001
Subject: Makeup Animation Gif
Group: pota Message: 7906 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/11/2001
Subject: Re: F--- Liz Smith
Group: pota Message: 7907 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: F--- Liz Smith
Group: pota Message: 7908 From: Kay53531@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: TO MICHAEL WHITTY
Group: pota Message: 7909 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: F--- Liz Smith
Group: pota Message: 7910 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: TO MICHAEL WHITTY
Group: pota Message: 7911 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: TV Seris Box Set
Group: pota Message: 7912 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: AFI's 100 Years...100 THRILLS
Group: pota Message: 7913 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: AFI's 100 Years...100 THRILLS
Group: pota Message: 7914 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: AFI's 100 Years...100 THRILLS
Group: pota Message: 7915 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: AFI's 100 Years...100 THRILLS
Group: pota Message: 7916 From: Brian Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Don Post Masks
Group: pota Message: 7917 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: Don Post Masks
Group: pota Message: 7918 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: Don Post Masks
Group: pota Message: 7919 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: POTA Number 59 on AFI List!!!
Group: pota Message: 7920 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: AFI #59!
Group: pota Message: 7921 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: POTA Number 59 on AFI List!!!
Group: pota Message: 7922 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: POTA Number 59 on AFI List!!!
Group: pota Message: 7923 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: Don Post Masks
Group: pota Message: 7924 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: POTA Number 59 on AFI List!!!
Group: pota Message: 7925 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:15 PDT ) - CHA
Group: pota Message: 7926 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:15 PDT ) -
Group: pota Message: 7927 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: Don Post Masks
Group: pota Message: 7928 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Official Web Site Update
Group: pota Message: 7929 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: Official Site Updates with Daena.
Group: pota Message: 7930 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: POTA Number 59 on AFI List!!!
Group: pota Message: 7931 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/12/2001
Subject: Re: Don Post Masks
Group: pota Message: 7932 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Don Post Masks
Group: pota Message: 7933 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:15 PDT )
Group: pota Message: 7934 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:15 PDT )
Group: pota Message: 7935 From: daniel225nma@hotmail.com Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:15 PDT )
Group: pota Message: 7936 From: Lynne Miller Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Jersey Convention
Group: pota Message: 7937 From: Rick Becker Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:1 5 PDT )
Group: pota Message: 7938 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Jersey Convention
Group: pota Message: 7939 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:1 5 PDT )
Group: pota Message: 7940 From: Rick Becker Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12: 50:1 5 PDT )
Group: pota Message: 7941 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12: 50:1 5 PDT )
Group: pota Message: 7942 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:1 5 PDT )
Group: pota Message: 7943 From: Rick Becker Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12: 50:1 5 PDT )
Group: pota Message: 7944 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
Group: pota Message: 7945 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Ebay Auctions
Group: pota Message: 7946 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:15 PDT ) -
Group: pota Message: 7947 From: Rick Becker Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: as a sign of good faith...
Group: pota Message: 7948 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
Group: pota Message: 7949 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: as a sign of good faith...
Group: pota Message: 7950 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: as a sign of good faith...
Group: pota Message: 7951 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12: 50:1 5 PDT )
Group: pota Message: 7952 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:1 5 PDT )
Group: pota Message: 7953 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
Group: pota Message: 7954 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
Group: pota Message: 7955 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: POTA Lunch Boxes are out!
Group: pota Message: 7956 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
Group: pota Message: 7957 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: POTA Unofficial Companion
Group: pota Message: 7958 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
Group: pota Message: 7959 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
Group: pota Message: 7960 From: Lynne Miller Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Florida
Group: pota Message: 7961 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
Group: pota Message: 7962 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
Group: pota Message: 7963 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/13/2001
Subject: Re: POTA Unofficial Companion
Group: pota Message: 7964 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/14/2001
Subject: POTA and ONE MILLION YEARS BC
Group: pota Message: 7965 From: Lynne Miller Date: 6/14/2001
Subject: Re: Ursus - The Early Years
Group: pota Message: 7966 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 6/14/2001
Subject: Re: POTA and ONE MILLION YEARS BC
Group: pota Message: 7967 From: Rick Becker Date: 6/14/2001
Subject: Re: POTA and ONE MILLION YEARS BC
Group: pota Message: 7968 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/14/2001
Subject: Re: POTA and ONE MILLION YEARS BC
Group: pota Message: 7969 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/14/2001
Subject: Re: POTA and ONE MILLION YEARS BC
Group: pota Message: 7970 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 6/14/2001
Subject: Re: POTA and ONE MILLION YEARS BC
Group: pota Message: 7971 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 6/14/2001
Subject: Re: POTA and ONE MILLION YEARS BC
Group: pota Message: 7972 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 6/14/2001
Subject: Re: POTA Unofficial Companion
Group: pota Message: 7973 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/14/2001
Subject: Re: POTA Unofficial Companion
Group: pota Message: 7974 From: Andy Garringer Date: 6/14/2001
Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
Group: pota Message: 7975 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 6/14/2001
Subject: OT: eBay Disputes
Group: pota Message: 7976 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: POTA Unofficial Companion
Group: pota Message: 7977 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: OT: eBay Disputes
Group: pota Message: 7978 From: Brian Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
Group: pota Message: 7979 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: OT: eBay Disputes
Group: pota Message: 7980 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
Group: pota Message: 7981 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: OT: eBay Disputes
Group: pota Message: 7982 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: eBay Disputes
Group: pota Message: 7983 From: Brian Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Restorations
Group: pota Message: 7984 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: eBay Disputes
Group: pota Message: 7985 From: danpiercy@yahoo.com Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: OT: eBay Disputes
Group: pota Message: 7986 From: Brian Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Hey, Whatever happened to...
Group: pota Message: 7987 From: Brian Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Resin Kits
Group: pota Message: 7988 From: Brian Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: Resin Kits
Group: pota Message: 7989 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: Hey, Whatever happened to...
Group: pota Message: 7990 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: Resin Kits
Group: pota Message: 7991 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: California Dreamin' "POTA" style
Group: pota Message: 7992 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: California Dreamin' "POTA" style
Group: pota Message: 7993 From: Brian Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: Resin Kits
Group: pota Message: 7994 From: Brian Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: California Dreamin' "POTA" style
Group: pota Message: 7995 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: Resin Kits
Group: pota Message: 7996 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Planet of the Apes!!!!
Group: pota Message: 7997 From: tekimball@mail.bulgaria.com Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: story ideas
Group: pota Message: 7998 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: Hey, Whatever happened to...
Group: pota Message: 7999 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: Hey, Whatever happened to...
Group: pota Message: 8000 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: Resin Kits
Group: pota Message: 8001 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/15/2001
Subject: Re: Resin Kits
Group: pota Message: 8002 From: Jack Krueger Date: 6/16/2001
Subject: Re: California Dreamin' "POTA" style


Group: pota Message: 7903 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/11/2001
Subject: Re: F--- Liz Smith
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Gee, and it was Liz Smith who back in '68 said of "Planet of the Apes" in
Cosmopolitan was "A Blockbuster Movie!  A genuine 14 caret film.  Big,
fascinating, totally entertaining!"   I guess she's just become an old-fart,
and a sloopy one at that.

-- Rory
 
 
Or perhaps she just hasn't seen the new POTA revisit yet to give a legit judgement on it?
 
Gee I don't know.... 
 
Alex
 
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Group: pota Message: 7904 From: DrZira3978@aol.com Date: 6/11/2001
Subject: Re: F--- Liz Smith
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Eeeeeeek! What a subject line! My first thought was, "NOT even with your d -
- - mate!"

It looks like this apes saga will definately be stiring some people up. Maybe
i'm just to big og a sci-fi geek, but I don't see what the big deal is with
the whole half ape/half human thing.

Chad
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Group: pota Message: 7905 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/11/2001
Subject: Makeup Animation Gif
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    Cary getting madeup cool!
     
    Best,
     
    Alex
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    Group: pota Message: 7906 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/11/2001
    Subject: Re: F--- Liz Smith
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    << But Premiere's cover and photos
    inside of Helena Bonham Carter if full ape makeup with her half-ape, half
    human children, courtesy of Mark Wahlberg's character, plus the make-up
    series inside, is stomach turning. Sorry about that." >>

    Who the hell is Liz Smith? Sounds like one of those half-assed journos that
    are more interested in giving their own opinion than getting the facts
    straight. That's right...don't worry about knowing what you're talking
    about. We all want to know how you feel about what you think you're talking
    about.
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    Group: pota Message: 7907 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/12/2001
    Subject: Re: F--- Liz Smith
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    << Maybe i'm just to big og a sci-fi geek, but I don't see what the big deal
    is with
    the whole half ape/half human thing. >>

    Hey, you are not alone. I think the thought of B'Elanna Tortoise's Dad
    banging one of those turtleheaded chicks on Star Trek is a much bigger deal.
    Talk about stomach churning!
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    Group: pota Message: 7908 From: Kay53531@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
    Subject: TO MICHAEL WHITTY
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    .htmlHi Michael, I received the videos today and was very happy to get them.The
    packaging is very nice and info on each show.is very detailed .Thank you so
    much you saved me another 30.00 shipping for the other set.I will send money
    at the end of JUNE. And will send cash.Now i have to transfer them ,and that
    will take two weeks before i can pick them up.Its been 18 years since i seen
    the shows the one i remember most is THE TRAP Urko gets trapped underground
    with Virdon an earth quake.I wonder if the american dvds will have the same
    covers? Bryan    <.html
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    Group: pota Message: 7909 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/12/2001
    Subject: Re: F--- Liz Smith
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    << Maybe i'm just to big og a sci-fi geek, but I don't see what the big deal
    is with the whole half ape/half human thing. >> >>

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    A woman got on a bus holding a baby. The bus driver said,
    "That's the ugliest baby I've ever seen." .

    In a huff, the woman slammed her fare into the fare box and
    took an aisle seat near the rear of the bus. The man seated
    next to her sensed that she was agitated and asked her what
    was wrong.

    "The bus driver insulted me," she fumed.

    The man sympathized and said, "Why, he's a public servant
    and shouldn't say things to insult passengers."

    "You're right!" the woman said, "I think I'll go back up
    there and give him a piece of my mind!"

    "That's a good idea," the man said, "Here, let me hold your
    monkey."


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    Group: pota Message: 7910 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/12/2001
    Subject: Re: TO MICHAEL WHITTY
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    Kay53531@... wrote:

    .I wonder if the american dvds will have the same
    covers? Bryan
     
    Hi Bryan,
    Just thought I'd chime in here. It's unlikely that the US DVDs will have the same packaging as that packaging was developed here in Australia by little ol' me. I used to work at 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment ( Apologies for those on the group who are sick of hearing this story) and lobbied for the Aussie release of the series.
    Although we sent all the locally developed art to our Home office in L.A  should other countries want to pursue a similar release, I'd imagine that the Fox domestic office would not think ( or even realize the tapes had been released in Australia) to ask the International office for the art. So I'll be interested to see what they come up with. Glad you like the packaging, it's nice to read about fan 'approval' of the packaging.
    Best,
    KEN

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    Group: pota Message: 7911 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/12/2001
    Subject: TV Seris Box Set
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    Thanks for that Ken.
     
    This also answers Rory's previous question about why pay so much for this box set - because it really is a nice addition to the collection that has been well developed by a true fan!  No statue of liberty cover here!
     
    Hey Ken - I need to buy a sealed version of Box 1 and none of the stores in Canberra have any...HELP!!!!
     
    If you see a Box 1, buy it and I'll send you the cash!
     
    Michael
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ken & Heather Taylor [kentaylor@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, 12 June 2001 17:35
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] TO MICHAEL WHITTY

     

    Kay53531@... wrote:

    .I wonder if the american dvds will have the same
    covers? Bryan
     
    Hi Bryan,
    Just thought I'd chime in here. It's unlikely that the US DVDs will have the same packaging as that packaging was developed here in Australia by little ol' me. I used to work at 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment ( Apologies for those on the group who are sick of hearing this story) and lobbied for the Aussie release of the series.
    Although we sent all the locally developed art to our Home office in L.A  should other countries want to pursue a similar release, I'd imagine that the Fox domestic office would not think ( or even realize the tapes had been released in Australia) to ask the International office for the art. So I'll be interested to see what they come up with. Glad you like the packaging, it's nice to read about fan 'approval' of the packaging.
    Best,
    KEN

    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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    Group: pota Message: 7912 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
    Subject: AFI's 100 Years...100 THRILLS
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    .htmlTonight on CBS the American Film Institute is having another one of those
    'list' specials (meant to help the studios sell videos of their movies as far
    as I can tell), anyway this one is about films that give a thrill.  Perhaps
    PLANET OF THE APES will make the list?

    -- Rory    <.html
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    Group: pota Message: 7913 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
    Subject: Re: AFI's 100 Years...100 THRILLS
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    I'm looking forward to this show. I like these kinds of lists. It makes for a
    good debate (like last year when they crowned "Some Like It Hot" the funniest
    film of all time).

    Go Apes!

    Matt
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    Group: pota Message: 7914 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
    Subject: Re: AFI's 100 Years...100 THRILLS
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    I'm looking forward to it too. The TV Guide blurb on it has the
    following from Jean Picker Firstenburg (I kid you not!), AFI director " It
    could be a sci-fi film, a horror film, sports film, a Western, an action
    film. Any movie that creates an experience that engages our bodies as well as
    our minds." With that criteria, AFI better have POTA on it. Go Apes, John
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    Group: pota Message: 7915 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
    Subject: Re: AFI's 100 Years...100 THRILLS
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    .htmlIn a message dated 6/12/01 6:13:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    JSe3689836@... writes:


        I'm looking forward to it too. The TV Guide blurb on it has the
    following from Jean Picker Firstenburg (I kid you not!), AFI director " It
    could be a sci-fi film, a horror film, sports film, a Western, an action
    film. Any movie that creates an experience that engages our bodies as well
    as
    our minds." With that criteria, AFI better have POTA on it.   Go Apes,   
    John
    I would imagine that that moment in film history when those gorillas on
    horseback first ride onto the screen in the original film would make the top
    100 films, but with the AFI who knows?

    Well, we'll see tonight -- also expect to watch a lot of commercials, this
    thing runs for three hours!!

    -- Rory    <.html
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    Group: pota Message: 7916 From: Brian Date: 6/12/2001
    Subject: Don Post Masks
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      This question is mainly directed to the group's resident Don Post experts
      down-undah, Ken & Michael.

      A client recently one the eBay auction of this sad looking Don Post mask and
      has shipped it to us for cleaning and restoration.

      Remarkably, the piece is not at all damaged (structurally), the paint's almost
      gone though, thanx to being burried in a grimey crankcase oil dirt pit.

      The thing that puzzles me is which character is it? When it was on eBay it was
      listed as a Dr. Zaius, but I don't think so. Any clues?

      Also, it is made out of a heavy duty vinyl, not latex. What's the scoop with
      that? Anyone know? Did POST run the first series in vinyl?

      Comments welcomed.

      Brian
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      Group: pota Message: 7917 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
      Subject: Re: Don Post Masks
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      .htmlIn a message dated 6/12/01 7:02:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
      afryt4u@... writes:


      The thing  that puzzles me is which character is it?  When it was on eBay it
      was
      listed as a Dr. Zaius, but I don't think so.  Any clues?



      Looks like Cornelius to me.

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      Group: pota Message: 7918 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/12/2001
      Subject: Re: Don Post Masks
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      Comments welcomed.

      Brian
       
      It does look like Cornelius, perhaps used as a chimp background mask.
      A lot were used in the Ursus Speach Scene as well as the "LOVE YES.. WAR NO!"
       
      Or maybe that was Ted Post Director? :o)
       
      Best,
      Al
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      Group: pota Message: 7919 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
      Subject: POTA Number 59 on AFI List!!!
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      .htmlWell, PLANET OF THE APES made number 59 on the AFI Thrills list.  Kim Hunter
      and Charlton Heston appeared with clips from the movie.  Jerry Goldsmith was
      seen earlier with "Poltergist" and "The Omen."

      BTW, "Frankenstein" was number 56 and Charlton Heston talked about how much
      it scared him when he was ten.

      -- Rory      <.html
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      Group: pota Message: 7920 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
      Subject: AFI #59!
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      Just saw POTA check in at #59 in AFI's 100 Thrillers. The clip starts
      off with "Get your stinking paws.." Then Kim Hunter talks briefly explaining
      the premise. Then clips of the hunt. Then Heston talking about the hunt.
      "Gorillas hunting humans, it's a staggering image" (Or words to that effect)
      I was most pleased! Go Apes!!!! John
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      Group: pota Message: 7921 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/12/2001
      Subject: Re: POTA Number 59 on AFI List!!!
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      Interesting that the two films listed 59 and 58 back to back both Boulle
      books!
      Pardon the alliteration.
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      Group: pota Message: 7922 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/12/2001
      Subject: Re: POTA Number 59 on AFI List!!!
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      Interesting that the two films listed 59 and 58 back to back both based on
      Boulle books!
      Pardon the alliteration.
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      Group: pota Message: 7923 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/12/2001
      Subject: Re: Don Post Masks
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      That's the Cornelius vinyl mask Brian. It was on Ebay a couple of times before it
      finally sold. From what I understand the vinyl versions were mail in offers only (
      like the ones you'd see advertised in comics and famous Monsters etc ). The other
      two in the series are Zaius and a Gorilla ( the vinyl Gorilla mask has been on Ebay
      a couple of times but I was always out bid). Of the three , I only have Cornelius. I
      did buy a vinyl Zaius from a collector but it got lost in transit. But that's
      another story.
      Best,
      KEN

      Brian wrote:

      > This question is mainly directed to the group's resident Don Post experts
      > down-undah, Ken & Michael.
      >
      > A client recently one the eBay auction of this sad looking Don Post mask and
      > has shipped it to us for cleaning and restoration.
      >
      > Remarkably, the piece is not at all damaged (structurally), the paint's almost
      > gone though, thanx to being burried in a grimey crankcase oil dirt pit.
      >
      > The thing that puzzles me is which character is it? When it was on eBay it was
      > listed as a Dr. Zaius, but I don't think so. Any clues?
      >
      > Also, it is made out of a heavy duty vinyl, not latex. What's the scoop with
      > that? Anyone know? Did POST run the first series in vinyl?
      >
      > Comments welcomed.
      >
      > Brian
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 7924 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
      Subject: Re: POTA Number 59 on AFI List!!!
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      .htmlIn a message dated 6/12/01 9:45:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
      LordTZer0@... writes:


      Interesting that the two films listed 59 and 58 back to back both Boulle
      books!
      Pardon the alliteration.
      Yes, I forgot to mention that.  Nice that they were both together.

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      Group: pota Message: 7925 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/12/2001
      Subject: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:15 PDT ) - CHA
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      .htmlClick here: eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:15 PDT ) - CHARLTON
      HESTON: PLANET OF THE APES rare 8x12

      This has to be one of the coolest behind-the-scenes photos I've ever seen.

      I've never seen it before.

      -- Rory       <.html
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      Group: pota Message: 7926 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/12/2001
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      This has to be one of the coolest behind-the-scenes photos I've ever seen.

      I've never seen it before.

      -- Rory
       
      WOW! Neither Have I!
      COOL!
       
      Alex :o) 
       
       
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      Group: pota Message: 7927 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/12/2001
      Subject: Re: Don Post Masks
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      > That's the Cornelius vinyl mask Brian. It was on Ebay a couple of times before it
      > finally sold. From what I understand the vinyl versions were mail in offers only (
      > like the ones you'd see advertised in comics and famous Monsters etc ). The other
      > two in the series are Zaius and a Gorilla ( the vinyl Gorilla mask has been on Ebay
      > a couple of times but I was always out bid). Of the three , I only have Cornelius. I
      > did buy a vinyl Zaius from a collector but it got lost in transit. But that's
      > another story.
      > Best,
      > KEN
      >
      > Brian wrote:
      >
      > > This question is mainly directed to the group's resident Don Post experts
      > > down-undah, Ken & Michael.
      > >
      > > A client recently one the eBay auction of this sad looking Don Post mask and
      > > has shipped it to us for cleaning and restoration.
      > >
      > > Remarkably, the piece is not at all damaged (structurally), the paint's almost
      > > gone though, thanx to being burried in a grimey crankcase oil dirt pit.
      > >
      > > The thing that puzzles me is which character is it? When it was on eBay it was
      > > listed as a Dr. Zaius, but I don't think so. Any clues?
      > >
      > > Also, it is made out of a heavy duty vinyl, not latex. What's the scoop with
      > > that? Anyone know? Did POST run the first series in vinyl?
      > >
      > > Comments welcomed.
      > >
      > > Brian
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
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      Group: pota Message: 7928 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/12/2001
      Subject: Official Web Site Update
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      Official Site Updates with Daena.
      Although her Desktop Wallpaper has a broken link, and her Flash Card and Video Feature segment is not yet posted. She will be the next up on the site as her image section is now on line with hidden concept art of her costume.
       
      I wish FOX would have an e-mail posted so that fans can report this, now we have to wait until they find out on their own.
       
      Jeeezzz...
       
      Best,
      Alex
       
      Great Site Though! :o)
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      Group: pota Message: 7929 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/12/2001
      Subject: Re: Official Site Updates with Daena.
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      Official Site Updates with Daena.
      Although her Desktop Wallpaper has a broken link, and her Flash Card and Video Feature segment is not yet posted. She will be the next up on the site as her image section is now on line with hidden concept art of her costume.
       
       
      Delayed post...problem solved!
      Yahoo koo koo strikes again!
       
      Best,
      Alex
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      Group: pota Message: 7930 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/12/2001
      Subject: Re: POTA Number 59 on AFI List!!!
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      Well, PLANET OF THE APES made number 59 on the AFI Thrills list.  Kim Hunter
      and Charlton Heston appeared with clips from the movie.
       
       
      Saw it, and while i was not happy with the rusult (should have been in the top ten) At least it made the list!
       
      POTA is not forgotten!
       
      Go Apes! Amen!
       
      Alex
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      Group: pota Message: 7931 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/12/2001
      Subject: Re: Don Post Masks
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      << Looks like Cornelius to me.

      -- Rory >>

      I agree with Rory. I had a latex one with hair, but it looked very similar.
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      Group: pota Message: 7932 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
      Subject: Re: Don Post Masks
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      .html Thanx Ken.  We'll start mixing the Cornelius colors right away!

      B

      Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

      That's the Cornelius vinyl mask Brian. It was on Ebay a couple of times before it
      finally sold. From what I understand the vinyl versions were mail in offers only (
      like the ones you'd see advertised in comics and famous Monsters etc ). The other
      two in the series are Zaius and a Gorilla ( the vinyl Gorilla mask has been on Ebay
      a couple of times but I was always out bid). Of the three , I only have Cornelius. I
      did buy a vinyl Zaius from a collector but it got lost in transit. But that's
      another story.
      Best,
      KEN

      Brian wrote:

      > This question is mainly directed to the group's resident Don Post experts
      > down-undah, Ken & Michael.
      >
      > A  client recently one the eBay auction of this sad looking Don Post mask and
      > has shipped it to us for cleaning and restoration.
      >
      >  Remarkably, the piece is not at all damaged (structurally), the paint's almost
      > gone though, thanx to being burried in a grimey crankcase oil dirt pit.
      >
      > The thing  that puzzles me is which character is it?  When it was on eBay it was
      > listed as a Dr. Zaius, but I don't think so.  Any clues?
      >
      > Also, it is made out of a heavy duty vinyl, not latex.  What's the scoop with
      > that?   Anyone know?  Did POST run the first series in vinyl?
      >
      > Comments welcomed.
      >
      > Brian
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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      Group: pota Message: 7933 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
      Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:15 PDT )
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      .html Thanx Rory, That one's REALLY COOL!  How hi do think it will go?

      Brian

      Haristas@... wrote:

       Click here: eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:15 PDT ) - CHARLTON
      HESTON: PLANET OF THE APES rare 8x12

      This has to be one of the coolest behind-the-scenes photos I've ever seen.

      I've never seen it before.

      -- Rory
       

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      Group: pota Message: 7934 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/13/2001
      Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:15 PDT )
      .html
      .html That depends on how high YOU'RE willing to bid Brian.
      Good luck!

      Brian wrote:

      Thanx Rory, That one's REALLY COOL!  How hi do think it will go?

      Brian

      Haristas@... wrote:

       Click here: eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:15 PDT ) - CHARLTON
      HESTON: PLANET OF THE APES rare 8x12

      This has to be one of the coolest behind-the-scenes photos I've ever seen.

      I've never seen it before.

      -- Rory
       



      Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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      Group: pota Message: 7935 From: daniel225nma@hotmail.com Date: 6/13/2001
      Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:15 PDT )
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      > > This has to be one of the coolest behind-the-scenes photos I've
      ever seen.

      I saw a small version of this photo in a UK film magazine a couple of
      months back, I thought it was a fantastic picture then so I guess the
      bidding could go quite high (geez, why can't I be rich !)

      Daniel
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      Group: pota Message: 7936 From: Lynne Miller Date: 6/13/2001
      Subject: Re: Jersey Convention
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      .html

      Why not try and take in both of them, Alex?  When I saw this today that's what I'm thinking..now I'll have to make more plans!  I was already planning the Memphis one..do you have the address for the one in New Jersey?  I'll check you site again in a while to see.  Thanks for the heads up!

                      *Lynne*

      >From: "Alexander Ruiz"
      >Subject: [pota] Jersey Convention
      >Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:07:36 -0400
      >
      >The Jersey convention is in July not June as I posted before.
      >This may paint a whole different picture for me.
      >Gives me time to save and plan for the trip. Now the only thing I need to do is figure out which one to go to, Jersey or Memphis?
      >
      >Sorry for the mistake on the post.
      >
      >Best,
      >Alex
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      Group: pota Message: 7937 From: Rick Becker Date: 6/13/2001
      Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:1 5 PDT )
      .html
      .html RE: [pota] Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:15 PDT )

      Speaking of this auction...does anyone know of the person on ebay with the current high bid, 'monstermaker'?  'Monstermaker' seems to be an insane POTA collector, always bidding whatever it takes to get the item he bids on to be everyone out.  Always seems to especially want the rare items, so I'm sure this one is indeed a rare one, I've never seen it either....

      rick

      Rick Becker
      Technical Support Analyst
      Libraries & Public Access to Information Program
      BILL & MELINDA GATES foundation
      1-800-289-8989
       



      -----Original Message-----
      From: Ken & Heather Taylor [mailto:kentaylor@...]
      Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 10:33 PM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01
      12:50:15 PDT ) - CHARLTON HEST


      That depends on how high YOU'RE willing to bid Brian.
      Good luck!

      Brian wrote:

      > Thanx Rory, That one's REALLY COOL!  How hi do think it will go?
      >
      > Brian
      >
      > Haristas@... wrote:
      >
      >>  Click here: eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:15 PDT ) -
      >> CHARLTON
      >> HESTON: PLANET OF THE APES rare 8x12
      >>
      >> This has to be one of the coolest behind-the-scenes photos I've ever
      >> seen.
      >>
      >> I've never seen it before.
      >>
      >> -- Rory
      >>
      >
      >
      >                   
        [www.debticated.com]

      >
      > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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      Group: pota Message: 7938 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/13/2001
      Subject: Re: Jersey Convention
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      Why not try and take in both of them, Alex?  When I saw this today that's what I'm thinking..now I'll have to make more plans!  I was already planning the Memphis one..do you have the address for the one in New Jersey?  I'll check you site again in a while to see.  Thanks for the heads up!

                      *Lynne*

       

      Well come to think of it I think I'm going to hold out for a bigger convention down the road.  If the film is a big hit then no doubt there will be sometime HUGE for L.A. in the weeks or months to come.

      As for Jersey I wouldn't have mind but it's set for Opening Weekend July 28, 29 and I'm afraid I have plans for that weekend. So a bigger L.A. convention will be it for me. And aslo the fact that I've always wanted to travel to Califonia to visit.

      Here's the link to the newspaper:

      www.prophecysite.com/convention.jpg

      You'll find it in the bulletin board under ' Planet of the Ape Events'

      Sorry gang. Perhaps we'll all meet in L.A. for a huge sci-fi convention.

      All the best,

      Alex

       

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      Group: pota Message: 7939 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/13/2001
      Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:1 5 PDT )
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      Speaking of this auction...does anyone know of the person on ebay with the current high bid, 'monstermaker'?  'Monstermaker' seems to be an insane POTA collector, always bidding whatever it takes to get the item he bids on to be everyone out.  Always seems to especially want the rare items, so I'm sure this one is indeed a rare one, I've never seen it either....

      rick

       

      Uhhh...I believe your talking about Brian on the e-group. You know...Apemania?

      Be easy on him Brian. :o)

      Best,

      Alex

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      Group: pota Message: 7940 From: Rick Becker Date: 6/13/2001
      Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12: 50:1 5 PDT )
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      anyone got some salt for my foot?
       
      ahhhhh...now it makes sense.  Duh me, yeah why would I think such person wouldn't be on this list too.  No offense intended at all Brian, just wondering who the person was with the deep pockets who's beaten me on many an auction past  ;)
       
      rick
       
      Rick Becker
      Technical Support Analyst
      Libraries & Public Access to Information Program
      BILL & MELINDA GATES foundation
      1-800-289-8989

       

       

       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Alexander Ruiz [prophecysite@...]
      Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 1:57 PM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:1 5 PDT )

      Speaking of this auction...does anyone know of the person on ebay with the current high bid, 'monstermaker'?  'Monstermaker' seems to be an insane POTA collector, always bidding whatever it takes to get the item he bids on to be everyone out.  Always seems to especially want the rare items, so I'm sure this one is indeed a rare one, I've never seen it either....

      rick

       

      Uhhh...I believe your talking about Brian on the e-group. You know...Apemania?

      Be easy on him Brian. :o)

      Best,

      Alex



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      Group: pota Message: 7941 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
      Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12: 50:1 5 PDT )
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      .html Hi Rick,

      No offense taken.  I have  agreements with many ape fans that if they have a previous bid on a cool piece on eBay that I won't try to outbid them, and I stick to those agreements.  With stills, a few of us exchange digital scans of some of the cooler pics.  We're all one big happy fan family, and one big pool of resources, in my book.

      So if anyone on this list has  a bid in on an item first, and I come along and push them out, just let me know.  I don't know everyone's handle on ebay, so just let me know when I'm stepping on toes and I'll back off.

      It's not a matter of life or death with me, especially with production stills.  We mostly use them for reference anyway.  No big deal.

      Now that you've piqued my interest, what auctions have I caused you to miss out on?

      Brian Penikas
      Keeper of the Glue and Faith for ApEmAnIa.CoM foundation

      anyone got some salt for my foot?
       
      ahhhhh...now it makes sense.  Duh me, yeah why would I think such person wouldn't be on this list too.  No offense intended at all Brian, just wondering
      who the person was with the deep pockets who's beaten me on many an auction past  ;)
       
      rick
       
      Rick Becker
      Technical Support Analyst
      Libraries & Public Access to Information Program
      BILL & MELINDA GATES foundation
      1-800-289-8989

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      Group: pota Message: 7942 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 6/13/2001
      Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:1 5 PDT )
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      In a message dated 6/13/01 5:18:40 PM, rick@... writes:

      << Speaking of this auction...does anyone know of the person on ebay with the

      current high bid, 'monstermaker'? 'Monstermaker' seems to be an insane POTA

      collector, always bidding whatever it takes to get the item he bids on to be

      everyone out. Always seems to especially want the rare items, so I'm sure

      this one is indeed a rare one, I've never seen it either.... >>

      Who knows...but I bet the guy is some sort of freak ;)

      Matt
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      Group: pota Message: 7943 From: Rick Becker Date: 6/13/2001
      Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12: 50:1 5 PDT )
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      .html
      cool Brian.  The only auctions that come to mind are a lonnng time ago (long before I was on any list) when I was trying to acquire the three-sectioned POTA plate (Deka), they seem hard to hard.  I'm not usually hardcore on the auctions but I think I remember you winning an auction on a French Planete des Singes, maybe first edition.  I can't recall but I remember that Eric Greene was bidding on it too.   One day.
       
      btw, are you going to that POTA/comic show in LA this weekend?  My wife and I will be there...
       
      best...
      rick
       
       
       
       
      Rick Becker
      Technical Support Analyst
      Libraries & Public Access to Information Program
      BILL & MELINDA GATES foundation
      1-800-289-8989

       

       

       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Brian [afryt4u@...]
      Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 2:15 PM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12: 50:1 5 PDT )

      Hi Rick,

      No offense taken.  I have  agreements with many ape fans that if they have a previous bid on a cool piece on eBay that I won't try to outbid them, and I stick to those agreements.  With stills, a few of us exchange digital scans of some of the cooler pics.  We're all one big happy fan family, and one big pool of resources, in my book.

      So if anyone on this list has  a bid in on an item first, and I come along and push them out, just let me know.  I don't know everyone's handle on ebay, so just let me know when I'm stepping on toes and I'll back off.

      It's not a matter of life or death with me, especially with production stills.  We mostly use them for reference anyway.  No big deal.

      Now that you've piqued my interest, what auctions have I caused you to miss out on?

      Brian Penikas
      Keeper of the Glue and Faith for ApEmAnIa.CoM foundation

      anyone got some salt for my foot?
       
      ahhhhh...now it makes sense.  Duh me, yeah why would I think such person wouldn't be on this list too.  No offense intended at all Brian, just wondering
      who the person was with the deep pockets who's beaten me on many an auction past  ;)
       
      rick
       
      Rick Becker
      Technical Support Analyst
      Libraries & Public Access to Information Program
      BILL & MELINDA GATES foundation
      1-800-289-8989

      Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

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      Group: pota Message: 7944 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
      Subject: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
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      Hey Gang,

      We finally finished the good ol' Doc's display.
      I've posted a few photos on the site at
      <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/MANNEQUINS/Orangs.htm>

      Enjoy.

      Brian

      Sorry, no Tiffany Minx this time! :-(
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      Group: pota Message: 7945 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/13/2001
      Subject: Ebay Auctions
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      .html
      Hi Brian
       
      Ken Taylor and I have the same agreement - avoids bitter feelings - good to see you have a harmonic nature too!!
       
      Michael
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Brian [afryt4u@...]
      Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2001 7:15
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12: 50:1 5 PDT )

      Hi Rick,

      No offense taken.  I have  agreements with many ape fans that if they have a previous bid on a cool piece on eBay that I won't try to outbid them, and I stick to those agreements.  With stills, a few of us exchange digital scans of some of the cooler pics.  We're all one big happy fan family, and one big pool of resources, in my book.

      So if anyone on this list has  a bid in on an item first, and I come along and push them out, just let me know.  I don't know everyone's handle on ebay, so just let me know when I'm stepping on toes and I'll back off.

      It's not a matter of life or death with me, especially with production stills.  We mostly use them for reference anyway.  No big deal.

      Now that you've piqued my interest, what auctions have I caused you to miss out on?

      Brian Penikas
      Keeper of the Glue and Faith for ApEmAnIa.CoM foundation

      anyone got some salt for my foot?
       
      ahhhhh...now it makes sense.  Duh me, yeah why would I think such person wouldn't be on this list too.  No offense intended at all Brian, just wondering
      who the person was with the deep pockets who's beaten me on many an auction past  ;)
       
      rick
       
      Rick Becker
      Technical Support Analyst
      Libraries & Public Access to Information Program
      BILL & MELINDA GATES foundation
      1-800-289-8989

      Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

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      Group: pota Message: 7946 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 6/13/2001
      Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:15 PDT ) -
      .html
      Hey Rory, I got a 2000 calendar with an issue of Total Film (Brit Mag).
      December 2000 is that very shot with Chuck, Gorilla & scriptperson. Very cool
      indeed. I also posted something last night during AFI when POTA checked in at
      #59. Didn't show up so I guess Yahoo struck again. Anyhow, it was great to
      see it make the list. But I didn't see a commercials for the reimagining.
      Guess Fox missed the boat again. GDYATH!!!!!! John
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      Group: pota Message: 7947 From: Rick Becker Date: 6/13/2001
      Subject: as a sign of good faith...
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        Brian and all...

        I've attached two .jpgs to this message for your fun and amusement. 

        The first one is one I took of Linda Harrison and Chuck from the April 2000 Hollywood Collector's Show.  It's my personal favorite and have to get off my butt to have them sign it for me. 

        The second one you may have seen before, I don't know it's source though.  I believe it's from a now defunct drive-in in Everett, WA near where I live, back in 1968. 

        enjoy...

         

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        Group: pota Message: 7948 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/13/2001
        Subject: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
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        Wow - the original Zaius Jacket with Glyphs - I hope he paid an absolute
        fortune........

        Michael

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Brian [afryt4u@...]
        Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2001 7:37
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Dr. Zaius mannequin completed

        Hey Gang,

        We finally finished the good ol' Doc's display.
        I've posted a few photos on the site at
        <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/MANNEQUINS/Orangs.htm>

        Enjoy.

        Brian

        Sorry, no Tiffany Minx this time! :-(




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        Group: pota Message: 7949 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/13/2001
        Subject: Re: as a sign of good faith...
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        .html Cool pics Rick.
        I love that totem pole as part of the drive in sign.
        Best,
        KEN

        Rick Becker wrote:

         

        Brian and all...

        I've attached two .jpgs to this message for your fun and amusement.

        The first one is one I took of Linda Harrison and Chuck from the April 2000 Hollywood Collector's Show.  It's my personal favorite and have to get off my butt to have them sign it for me.

        The second one you may have seen before, I don't know it's source though.  I believe it's from a now defunct drive-in in Everett, WA near where I live, back in 1968.

        enjoy...
         


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        Group: pota Message: 7950 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
        Subject: Re: as a sign of good faith...
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        VEry VERY COOL MARQUEE!!!

        BRick Becker wrote:

         

        Brian and all...

        I've attached two .jpgs to this message for your fun and amusement.

        The first one is one I took of Linda Harrison and Chuck from the April 2000 Hollywood Collector's Show.  It's my personal favorite and have to get off my butt to have them sign it for me.

        The second one you may have seen before, I don't know it's source though.  I believe it's from a now defunct drive-in in Everett, WA near where I live, back in 1968.

        enjoy...

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        Group: pota Message: 7951 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
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        .html Hey Rick,

        Those Plate and dish sets turn up fairly frequently on eBay.  Don't know about the Singes thingie, but if Eric was bidding on something then I would've pulled out.
        As far as the show on Father's day?  Nope, got family plans that weekend.  However, we (the cast and crew of APEMANIA ) will be at the International Make-up & Hairstylist Tradeshow the following weekend, sans ape garb tho.

        B
         

        cool Brian.  The only auctions that come to mind are a lonnng time ago (long before I was on any list) when I was trying to acquire the three-sectioned
        POTA plate (Deka), they seem hard to hard.  I'm not usually hardcore on the auctions but I think I remember you winning an auction on a French Planete
        des Singes, maybe first edition.  I can't recall but I remember that Eric Greene was bidding on it too.   One day.
         
        btw, are you going to that POTA/comic show in LA this weekend?  My wife and I will be there...
         
        best...
        rick
         
         
         
         
        Rick Becker
        Technical Support Analyst
        Libraries & Public Access to Information Program
        BILL & MELINDA GATES foundation
        1-800-289-8989

         

         
         

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        Group: pota Message: 7952 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
        Subject: Re: Check out eBay item 1438042479 (Ends Jun-18-01 12:50:1 5 PDT )
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        MTotsky@... wrote:...

         
        Who knows...but I bet the guy is some sort of freak   ;)

        Matt

         Ahh, yes!  It's amuzing, a man acting like a comedian...

        B

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        Group: pota Message: 7953 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
        Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
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        Michael Whitty wrote:

        Wow - the original Zaius Jacket with Glyphs - I hope he paid an absolute
        fortune........

        Michael

        You would absolutely cry at the amazingly fair price he got the jacket for.  The whole display is valued between $45 and $50,000 now that it's complete.  But the owner did get the jacket for a song.

        When it was in our possession, we had offers from other collectors between $10-$20G's just for the jacket alone.

        B

         

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Brian [mailto:afryt4u@...]
        Sent:   Thursday, 14 June 2001 7:37
        To:     pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject:        [pota] Dr. Zaius mannequin completed

        Hey Gang,

        We finally finished the good ol' Doc's display.
        I've posted a few photos on the site at
        <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/MANNEQUINS/Orangs.htm>

        Enjoy.

        Brian

        Sorry, no Tiffany Minx this time!  :-(


         
         

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        Group: pota Message: 7954 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/13/2001
        Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
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        .html Hey Brian,
        That Zaius display is amazing....spooky even.
        How many 'High end' collectors do you do displays for? All the pieces you've been sharing with us recently, are they all owned by the same person?
        Best,
        KEN

        Brian wrote:

         

        Michael Whitty wrote:

        Wow - the original Zaius Jacket with Glyphs - I hope he paid an absolute
        fortune........

        Michael

        You would absolutely cry at the amazingly fair price he got the jacket for.  The whole display is valued between $45 and $50,000 now that it's complete.  But the owner did get the jacket for a song.

        When it was in our possession, we had offers from other collectors between $10-$20G's just for the jacket alone.

        B

         

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Brian [mailto:afryt4u@...]
        Sent:   Thursday, 14 June 2001 7:37
        To:     pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject:        [pota] Dr. Zaius mannequin completed

        Hey Gang,

        We finally finished the good ol' Doc's display.
        I've posted a few photos on the site at
        <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/MANNEQUINS/Orangs.htm>

        Enjoy.

        Brian

        Sorry, no Tiffany Minx this time!  :-(


         
         



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        Group: pota Message: 7955 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/13/2001
        Subject: POTA Lunch Boxes are out!
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        Hey Gang.
        Sef just informed me that his has received the lunch boxes.
         
        I'm picking mine up this week!
        According to Sef, "there F@#ken Awesome!" - pardon my french.
         
        All the best,
        Alex
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        Group: pota Message: 7956 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/13/2001
        Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
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        Hey Brian do you ever end up with extra heads etc... from making these?
        And if so, what happens to them?
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        Group: pota Message: 7957 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 6/13/2001
        Subject: POTA Unofficial Companion
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        Just got my "Planet of the Apes, An Unofficial Companion" by David
        Hofstede from Amazon today. I give it a B+. It's basically a reference book.
        Breaks down the films one by one. Each starts off with the credits, reviews,
        the balance sheet, what it's about, what's great about it, what's not so
        great & did you know. All very bite size, easy reading/reference. But nothing
        that we already didn't know. Has a fairly thorough listing of the TV
        episodes, but I'm not a real fan of it. I remember reading a post sometime
        back about how Fox didn't consent to the use of photos. It shows. Some
        interesting stuff, but not much. One thing that annoyed me was that there's a
        shot of Heston throwing a football with the caption "Zauis....it's third and
        long. During a break in shooting Planet of the Apes, Charlton Heston shows
        off his quarterback skills." Heston's wearing a loincloth, but it's BEN-HUR
        for cryin' out loud!!!!!!! Sloppy, Sloppy!!!! A shot of Zanuck & Linda
        (san's Nova outfit), with Zanuck striking a Svengali like pose almost makes
        up for it. Almost. Anyhow, any POTA book is a good POTA book. But some
        books, it seems, will be better than others. I hope this gets posted, my
        last few haven't showed up yet. Go Apes, John P.S. very nice section
        at the end about the fans. You'll see some familiar names.
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        Group: pota Message: 7958 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
        Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
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        .html Hi  Ken,

        Without saying too much, we have a handful of hi-end clients who continuously bring us display projects.  They all like their privacy as do the vendors that have stuff on our Ape City Thrift Shop pages, so we keep everyone anonymous.  One in particular seems to have made a pact with the devil, 'cuz he gets a lot of the choice stuff (the sarcophagus, the Milo).  But he also shares it buy turning his office facilities into themed showrooms, unlike most collectors who hoard stuff so it will never be seen again.

        We also do other non-ape displays when they come our way as well.  One of these days I'll make time to put some on the Make-up & Monsters website, but who knows when that will be with all the current ape work we are doing.  Ugh!  ("Ugh", I mean we are swamped, not "Ugh!  APES!  Ugh!"

        B

        Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

        Hey Brian,
        That Zaius display is amazing....spooky even.
        How many 'High end' collectors do you do displays for? All the pieces you've been sharing with us recently, are they all owned by the same person?
        Best,
        KEN

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        Group: pota Message: 7959 From: Brian Date: 6/13/2001
        Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
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        .html We do on occasion have reject heads that, unfortunately, we have to destroy.

        We used to put them up as "Grab-Bag" items on ebay from time to time, but folks started duping them and selling pirated copies so we've pretty much stopped selling the rejects.  A shame for the true fans that would put the items to good personal use, but FOX has its rules and franchise to look out for, and we have to keep them happy.

        Someone recently let me know about a guy who actually had purchased stuff from us and then built a website  to sell "suspect" knock-offs of our items, and, get this, used images that he lifted from our site on his.  Needless to say, he's being investigated.

        Oh it's a crazy, dirty, mixed up, greedy world out there.  Gimmee a banana smoothie, a small patch of beachfront land in the Forbidden Zone, and a Nova lookalike (mute of course) anyday, and leave the nuttiness of humanity to its own undoing.

        B

        LordTZer0@... wrote:

           Hey Brian do you ever end up with extra heads etc... from making these?
        And if so, what happens to them?
         
         

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        Group: pota Message: 7960 From: Lynne Miller Date: 6/13/2001
        Subject: Re: Florida
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        I could never figure this out then... and now that I too live in Florida, in the Tampa area (Hi, Chad), I really can't figure it out.  I mean, the only thing that is down there are really big bugs and alligators and snakes and fun stuff like that.  How could you possible "live happily ever after" in circumstances like that?  Maybe Armando was thinking of the Chimp Farm in Palm Harbor....Yeah that's it.  A home for retired circus performers, they would never find them there, ya think???

                         *Lynne*

        >From: Haristas@...
        >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        >Subject: Re: [pota] Florida
        >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:24:00 EDT
        >
        >In a message dated 6/6/01 5:52:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
        >whitty@... writes:
        >
        > > I'm amazed at all the Folridians on the list!!!!
        > >
        > > Michael
        > >
        >
        >Weren't Zira and Cornelius going to live "happily ever after" in the Florida
        >Everglades?
        >
        >-- Rory (Who's originally from upstate New York)
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        Group: pota Message: 7961 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/13/2001
        Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
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        << We used to put them up as "Grab-Bag" items on ebay from time to time, but
        folks started duping them and selling pirated copies so we've pretty much
        stopped selling the rejects. A shame for the true fans that would put the
        items to good personal use, but FOX has its rules and franchise to look out
        for, and we have to keep them happy. >>

        Ho ho ho . . . I never sold any. I pulled that item from auction, as
        requested.
        Had I known you were going to go into business I wouldn't have bid so high.
        Silly me . . . I thought I had cornered the market on Ape-pliances!
        No hard feelings. But my wallet still smarts. Ouch!
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        Group: pota Message: 7962 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/13/2001
        Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
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        .html Thanks Brian,
        I didn't expect you to name names. I've dealt with the odd ( being the key word ) Ape collector myself and maintaining ( and respecting ) their privacy is probably a good thing.
        Best,
        KEN

        Brian wrote:

        Hi  Ken,

        Without saying too much, we have a handful of hi-end clients who continuously bring us display projects.  They all like their privacy as do the vendors that have stuff on our Ape City Thrift Shop pages, so we keep everyone anonymous.  One in particular seems to have made a pact with the devil, 'cuz he gets a lot of the choice stuff (the sarcophagus, the Milo).  But he also shares it buy turning his office facilities into themed showrooms, unlike most collectors who hoard stuff so it will never be seen again.

        We also do other non-ape displays when they come our way as well.  One of these days I'll make time to put some on the Make-up & Monsters website, but who knows when that will be with all the current ape work we are doing.  Ugh!  ("Ugh", I mean we are swamped, not "Ugh!  APES!  Ugh!"

        B

        Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

        Hey Brian,
        That Zaius display is amazing....spooky even.
        How many 'High end' collectors do you do displays for? All the pieces you've been sharing with us recently, are they all owned by the same person?
        Best,
        KEN



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        Group: pota Message: 7963 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/13/2001
        Subject: Re: POTA Unofficial Companion
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        Thanks for this post, John.
        I was just looking at Amazon today and considered ordering it. I probably still
        will. So there aren't many photos then?
        Best,
        KEN

        JSe3689836@... wrote:

        > Just got my "Planet of the Apes, An Unofficial Companion" by David
        > Hofstede from Amazon today. I give it a B+. It's basically a reference book.
        > Breaks down the films one by one. Each starts off with the credits, reviews,
        > the balance sheet, what it's about, what's great about it, what's not so
        > great & did you know. All very bite size, easy reading/reference. But nothing
        > that we already didn't know. Has a fairly thorough listing of the TV
        > episodes, but I'm not a real fan of it. I remember reading a post sometime
        > back about how Fox didn't consent to the use of photos. It shows. Some
        > interesting stuff, but not much. One thing that annoyed me was that there's a
        > shot of Heston throwing a football with the caption "Zauis....it's third and
        > long. During a break in shooting Planet of the Apes, Charlton Heston shows
        > off his quarterback skills." Heston's wearing a loincloth, but it's BEN-HUR
        > for cryin' out loud!!!!!!! Sloppy, Sloppy!!!! A shot of Zanuck & Linda
        > (san's Nova outfit), with Zanuck striking a Svengali like pose almost makes
        > up for it. Almost. Anyhow, any POTA book is a good POTA book. But some
        > books, it seems, will be better than others. I hope this gets posted, my
        > last few haven't showed up yet. Go Apes, John P.S. very nice section
        > at the end about the fans. You'll see some familiar names.
        >
        >
        >
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 7964 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/14/2001
        Subject: POTA and ONE MILLION YEARS BC
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        .htmlIn a message dated 6/13/01 9:56:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
        rick@... writes:


        The second one you may have seen before, I don't know it's source though.  I
        believe it's from a now defunct drive-in in Everett, WA near where I live,
        back in 1968.  
        enjoy...
         



        Rick,

        Back in '68 I and friend, another nine-year-old boy, were talking about
        "Planet of the Apes" on the swings at a playground.  He was telling me about
        this movie he saw "Planet" with as a double-feature.  I didn't know what he
        was talking about and this other film sounded like a very strange movie.  He
        told me about how it had cavemen in it fighting dinosaurs.  I never forgot
        about that weird film told about to me that day.  Years later on the late
        show one night I finally saw "One Million Years BC."   A few years after that
        I went to a library and going back in the local paper on micofilm I found the
        listing for the double-feature of "Planet of the Apes" and "One Million Years
        BC" that played at a few theatres on Long Island, New York in June 1968.  I
        wished I'd seen that double-feature when I was nine years old.  

        Oh well, every so often I have watched them together in my own home video
        double-feature.

        -- Rory        <.html
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        Group: pota Message: 7965 From: Lynne Miller Date: 6/14/2001
        Subject: Re: Ursus - The Early Years
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        Oh, no, that's not true....I read every post but I just don't get to post to the list as often as I would like.  The movie treatments for other people doing POTA had me LOL!!  Woody Allen, who would of thought??!!

                   *Lynne*

        >From: MTotsky@...
        >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        >Subject: Re: [pota] Ursus - The Early Years
        >Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:45:56 EDT
        >
        >
        >In a message dated 6/7/01 5:44:21 AM, daniel225nma@... writes:
        >
        ><< Was there ever an explanation as to where Ursus was during the first
        >film, I mean he just kinda appeared in Beneath as a major character.
        >I like to think he had been away on some long campaign exterminating
        >other tribes of humans, (now that would make a nice prequel!). >>
        >
        >Daniel,
        >
        >Write up a paragraph or two that elaborates on this concept! I love reading
        >this kind of stuff! I have written a bunch of stuff like this on the list,
        >but I don't think too many besides Rory reads it.
        >
        >Matt
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        Group: pota Message: 7966 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 6/14/2001
        Subject: Re: POTA and ONE MILLION YEARS BC
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        This double feature could be dubbed "The Battle of the Babes: Linda Harrison
        vs. Raquel Welch for the Title of the Hottest Woman in Sci-Fi"

        Matt
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        Group: pota Message: 7967 From: Rick Becker Date: 6/14/2001
        Subject: Re: POTA and ONE MILLION YEARS BC
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        Rory-
         
        Really cool that you mention that, especially in the context of Long Island.  Did you grow up there?  I lived there for almost 30 years, some of my fondest memories are of going to the Commack Drive-In (grew up in Commack) and my Dad taking me to the 'Go Ape!' festival at the Smithtown movie theater on Main Street.  Those were the days, nothing like 10 hours of POTA!
         
        Rick

        Rick,

        Back in '68 I and friend, another nine-year-old boy, were talking about
        "Planet of the Apes" on the swings at a playground.  He was telling me about
        this movie he saw "Planet" with as a double-feature.  I didn't know what he
        was talking about and this other film sounded like a very strange movie.  He
        told me about how it had cavemen in it fighting dinosaurs.  I never forgot
        about that weird film told about to me that day.  Years later on the late
        show one night I finally saw "One Million Years BC."   A few years after that
        I went to a library and going back in the local paper on micofilm I found the
        listing for the double-feature of "Planet of the Apes" and "One Million Years
        BC" that played at a few theatres on Long Island, New York in June 1968.  I
        wished I'd seen that double-feature when I was nine years old.  

        Oh well, every so often I have watched them together in my own home video
        double-feature.

        -- Rory
         
         
         
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        Group: pota Message: 7968 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/14/2001
        Subject: Re: POTA and ONE MILLION YEARS BC
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        Yeah, I guess you have to go way back in time or way ahead in the future to
        get hot chicks in furry, tree bark or beef jerky bikinis.
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        Group: pota Message: 7969 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/14/2001
        Subject: Re: POTA and ONE MILLION YEARS BC
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        .htmlIn a message dated 6/14/01 3:14:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
        rick@... writes:


        Rory-

        Really cool that you mention that, especially in the context of Long
        Island.  Did you grow up there?  I lived there for almost 30 years, some of
        my fondest memories are of going to the Commack Drive-In (grew up in
        Commack) and my Dad taking me to the 'Go Ape!' festival at the Smithtown
        movie theater on Main Street.  Those were the days, nothing like 10 hours
        of POTA!

        Rick

        I grew up in Levittown in the 60's and first saw PLANET at the Wantagh
        Theatre in April, 1968 and saw it for the second time at the Levittown
        Theatre in June.  In May of 1969 I saw PLANET for the third time on a
        double-feature with "Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines"  (the
        ads for that odd combo said "The Perfect Mates: 'Apes' and 'Men'!"), then
        went back to see it for a fourth and fifth time (only skipping 'Men' those
        times).

        When BENEATH opened in May of 1970 I was by this time smart enough to talk my
        aunt, who lived on Staten Island, to take me into Manhatten to see it.   
        Later in June I saw it another four times on Lonng Island so as to keep up
        with PLANET.

        After that, my family moved upstate and that was that for L.I., although I've
        visited there several times and lived again on the Island for about a year in
        the mid-eighties.

        I'm sure this will fascinate everyone, especially Alan over there in Scotland.

        -- Rory         <.html
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        Group: pota Message: 7970 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 6/14/2001
        Subject: Re: POTA and ONE MILLION YEARS BC
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        Nova wins, hands down! John
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        Group: pota Message: 7971 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 6/14/2001
        Subject: Re: POTA and ONE MILLION YEARS BC
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        Nice post Rory. Ah, the memories of when moviegoing was far less
        complicated. And the ads for that matter. Everything's so corporate now.
        Later, Go Apes! John
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        Group: pota Message: 7972 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 6/14/2001
        Subject: Re: POTA Unofficial Companion
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        Hey Ken, there are 30 B&W shots in the book, which is 178. I'm surprised
        you don't have a complimentary copy, you're mentioned in the fan section!
        Anyhow, I recommend getting it. But I think the Russo book will be much
        better. We'll see, I guess. My regards down under, Go Apes, John
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        Group: pota Message: 7973 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/14/2001
        Subject: Re: POTA Unofficial Companion
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        Thanks, John, for your book report. I think I'll hold off on this one.
        Maybe it'll show up at my local Borders and I can check it out for myself.
        As for the Russo book, I just hope it's still coming out!

        -- Rory
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        Group: pota Message: 7974 From: Andy Garringer Date: 6/14/2001
        Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
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        Brian,

        The finished piece looks incredible. It was great to be able to visit
        the Apemania studio and see you and the coat in person.

        Another outstanding job!

        Andy

        --- In pota@y..., Brian <afryt4u@e...> wrote:
        > Hey Gang,
        >
        > We finally finished the good ol' Doc's display.
        > I've posted a few photos on the site at
        > <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/MANNEQUINS/Orangs.htm>
        >
        > Enjoy.
        >
        > Brian
        >
        > Sorry, no Tiffany Minx this time! :-(
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        Group: pota Message: 7975 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 6/14/2001
        Subject: OT: eBay Disputes
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        I'm sorry to bring this up, but I am just curious if anyone here has ever had
        a dispute with someone on eBay. If so, what transpired?

        Right now I am in my first dispute with a seller. To make a long story short,
        I won an auction for a poster and instead of shipping the thing to me in a
        sturdy poster tube, he sends it to me in a makeshift triangle-shaped box that
        just begged to be crushed. Of course, this is exactly what happened and the
        poster got damaged. When I politely asked the seller for a refund he said
        that he would give me the money back for the poster, but not for the
        shipping. I didn't think it was fair to stick me with nearly $10 in shipping
        charges so I said this was unacceptable. After several exchanged emails he is
        now refusing to refund me a dime. I have since reported him to eBay. Are my
        efforts futile? What would it take to get a seller banned or suspended from
        eBay?

        This is really not that big of a deal, and it is actually quite humorous to
        me to see exactly how petty and cheap someone can be (the whole thing would
        set him back a whopping $1.89 if he would just refund me the amount I
        wanted). Adding to the entertainment value is the guy's inability to spell
        and punctuate sentences properly. There is a part in one of his emails that I
        just have to share. This afternoon he wrote:

        "do what you have to do as far as ebay rating. im sure my imbecible record
        will stand for itself."

        This prompted me to reply:

        "The ball is in your court here. If you want to keep your "impeccable"
        feedback you will do the right thing. (By the way, there is no such word as
        "imbecible." The closest word is "imbecile" which means "a feeble-minded or
        stupid person")"

        I think this is the comment that caused him to refuse to refund me any money.
        Silly me.

        Anyways, any help would be appreciated and sorry for the off-topic post.

        Thanks,

        Matt
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        Group: pota Message: 7976 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/15/2001
        Subject: Re: POTA Unofficial Companion
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        .html  
        I'm surprised
        you don't have a complimentary copy, you're mentioned in the fan section!

        Hi John,
        Funny you should mention that. The author contacted me today requesting my address to send me a copy.
        I look forward to reading it. I will no doubt buy the Russo book when it is available also. Just can't get enough of that simian stuff!
        My regards to 'up-over'.
        Best,
        KEN

         

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        Group: pota Message: 7977 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/15/2001
        Subject: Re: OT: eBay Disputes
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        Hey Matt,
        I think anyone who uses Ebay long enough is bound to be burnt at some stage. You
        could take your case to squaretrade.com
        ( I think they're an Ebay affiliate ..could be wrong ) they will act as an
        intermediate between both parties to try to resolve the problem. I took a case to
        them once but they other party never responded to their email requests.
        Alternately , you could put it down to experience and ensure you ask even the
        most obvious of questions on future auctions. I know how you feel, it's not the
        value of the item, its the point of keeping Ebay as clean as possible.
        Ebay has turned a lot of average Joes ( who would normally sell their unwanted
        stuff at yard sales) into "business" people without any business acumen OR
        common courtesy.
        I hope you are able to get your situation resolved.
        Best,
        KEN
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        Group: pota Message: 7978 From: Brian Date: 6/15/2001
        Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
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        .html Thanx Andy.  You should see what we've got next in the restoration line-up!
        B

        Andy Garringer wrote:

        Brian,

        The finished piece looks incredible. It was great to be able to visit
        the Apemania studio and see you and the coat in person.

        Another outstanding job!

        Andy

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        Group: pota Message: 7979 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/15/2001
        Subject: Re: OT: eBay Disputes
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        Matt

        The problem usually escalates when you stoop to their level and start making
        nasty comments (although there is often no choice!).

        Ask yourself if you really want to give neg feedback because he might return
        the same to you and personally I often let the bastards go so as to keep my
        record neg free.

        You can get really petty and vengeful and get fake Hotmail addresses, get a
        fake user id and just keep bidding on all his items then not reply to emails
        and leve neg feedback under your fake name - if you are REALLY pissed off!

        I usually just leave them alone and forget about it when I am dealing with
        pricks like this.

        Michael

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Ken & Heather Taylor [kentaylor@...]
        Sent: Friday, 15 June 2001 15:11
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [pota] OT: eBay Disputes

        Hey Matt,
        I think anyone who uses Ebay long enough is bound to be burnt at some stage.
        You
        could take your case to squaretrade.com
        ( I think they're an Ebay affiliate ..could be wrong ) they will act as an
        intermediate between both parties to try to resolve the problem. I took a
        case to
        them once but they other party never responded to their email requests.
        Alternately , you could put it down to experience and ensure you ask even
        the
        most obvious of questions on future auctions. I know how you feel, it's not
        the
        value of the item, its the point of keeping Ebay as clean as possible.
        Ebay has turned a lot of average Joes ( who would normally sell their
        unwanted
        stuff at yard sales) into "business" people without any business acumen OR
        common courtesy.
        I hope you are able to get your situation resolved.
        Best,
        KEN






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        Group: pota Message: 7980 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/15/2001
        Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed
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        Come on Brian, stop teasing!
         
        Michael
         
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Brian [afryt4u@...]
        Sent: Friday, 15 June 2001 16:45
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Dr. Zaius mannequin completed

        Thanx Andy.  You should see what we've got next in the restoration line-up!
        B

        Andy Garringer wrote:

        Brian,

        The finished piece looks incredible. It was great to be able to visit
        the Apemania studio and see you and the coat in person.

        Another outstanding job!

        Andy



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        Group: pota Message: 7981 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 6/15/2001
        Subject: Re: OT: eBay Disputes
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        In a message dated 6/15/01 3:03:22 AM, whitty@... writes:

        << Ask yourself if you really want to give neg feedback because he might
        return
        the same to you and personally I often let the bastards go so as to keep my
        record neg free. >>

        Actually, he already left me positive feedback when I paid promptly so this
        can't happen. Otherwise, I would consider not leaving it.

        Thanks,

        Matt
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        Group: pota Message: 7982 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/15/2001
        Subject: eBay Disputes
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        Cool!!

        Then send him an email and say he has one week to refund all your money or
        you will leave damning feedback.

        Michael

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        From: MTotsky@... [MTotsky@...]
        Sent: Friday, 15 June 2001 21:39
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [pota] OT: eBay Disputes


        In a message dated 6/15/01 3:03:22 AM, whitty@... writes:

        << Ask yourself if you really want to give neg feedback because he might
        return
        the same to you and personally I often let the bastards go so as to keep my
        record neg free. >>

        Actually, he already left me positive feedback when I paid promptly so this
        can't happen. Otherwise, I would consider not leaving it.

        Thanks,

        Matt



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        Group: pota Message: 7983 From: Brian Date: 6/15/2001
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            Come on Brian, stop teasing!
         
            Michael

        I thought I sent pictures of the CAESAR statue to the group already.  But their are a few other thangs in the catcombs as well...
         

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        Group: pota Message: 7984 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 6/15/2001
        Subject: Re: eBay Disputes
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        In a message dated 6/15/01 10:55:22 AM, whitty@... writes:

        << Then send him an email and say he has one week to refund all your money or
        you will leave damning feedback. >>

        Initially he did say that he would refund me all of my money except the
        shipping. When I told him that this was unacceptable and I would leave him
        negative feedback unless I got all of money back he said he was sick of my
        threats and therefore would not be receiving a dime.

        This whole situation is kind of petty. I guess I am basically guilty of
        assuming that everyone out there is as nice and honest as me. Again, this is
        not a big ticket item. It was just a poster that I paid $26 ($19.99 bid plus
        $6.01 for shipping). I thought this shipping charge was a bit high, but I
        assumed he was going to either insure it or use the extra couple of bucks to
        spring for a sturdy shipping tube, so I didn't have a problem with it. This
        was not the case. The actual shipping charge was $3.95 When I asked him why
        he charged me an extra $2.06 he said it was for gas money because he lives
        more than 10 miles from the post office. What a joke.

        I initially told him I wanted to return the poster for a $29.95 refund (the
        $26 I already paid him plus $3.95 to ship it back). He said he would not
        refund any of the shipping charges. I said I didn't think it was fair for me
        to lose nearly $10 because he couldn't pack the thing properly. He said tough
        luck and I was stupid for not requesting insurance. This led me to stop by
        the post office and I was told that in some instances insurance does not
        cover improperly packaged articles (I have this in writing). Again, if the
        guy would just refund me the money I want, he would only be set back $1.89
        ($3.95 minus the extra $2.06 he pocketed for "gas money").

        I doubt if I will get any money back, because he is just a private seller and
        not a business. My main gripe is with the way he packed the thing. It was a
        totally inappropriate way to send a poster. If I can annoy the guy just
        enough so he will ship things properly to others in the future, then I will
        consider it a slight victory. Of course this victory is costing me $26, but
        at this point it's about principle.

        Thanks to all he responded and I apologize to anyone who was annoyed
        with this off topic post.

        Matt
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        Group: pota Message: 7985 From: danpiercy@yahoo.com Date: 6/15/2001
        Subject: Re: OT: eBay Disputes
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        --- In pota@y..., MTotsky@a... wrote:

        > "The ball is in your court here. If you want to keep
        your "impeccable"
        > feedback you will do the right thing. (By the way, there is no such
        word as
        > "imbecible." The closest word is "imbecile" which means "a feeble-
        minded or
        > stupid person")"

        me:

        This is the funniest thing I've read in awhile! HAHAHAHA!
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        Group: pota Message: 7986 From: Brian Date: 6/15/2001
        Subject: Hey, Whatever happened to...
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          ...that hunka junk mask that came our way last week.

          Well, here it is....

          Okay folks! Bring on the next challenge!

          B
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          Group: pota Message: 7987 From: Brian Date: 6/15/2001
          Subject: Resin Kits
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            Looks like that "Long Live the King" guy finally got his ESCAPE figures done!

            The helmets are too big, but still is some nice work!

            Brian
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            Group: pota Message: 7988 From: Brian Date: 6/15/2001
            Subject: Re: Resin Kits
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            .html PS:  Russ Raney is the owner of MODEL PRISONERS who puts out the "ESCAPE-O-NAUTS" and "Long Live The King" resin kits. <http://WWW.MODELPRISONERS.COM/orkits.htm>

            B

            Brian wrote:

            Looks like that "Long Live the King" guy finally got his ESCAPE figures done!

            The helmets are too big, but still is some nice work!

            Brian
             
             

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            Group: pota Message: 7989 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/15/2001
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            WOW!
            So much better than the original paint job. The mask's original paint job was
            VERY basic. Virtually only a one color wash over the vinyl. I think these
            vinyl masks were meant to be a real budget line. Not much detail.
            This looks amazing!
            Keep 'em comin' Brian. I love this stuff!
            Best,
            KEN

            Brian wrote:

            > ...that hunka junk mask that came our way last week.
            >
            > Well, here it is....
            >
            > Okay folks! Bring on the next challenge!
            >
            > B
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
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            Group: pota Message: 7990 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/15/2001
            Subject: Re: Resin Kits
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            Hey Brian,
            Any idea how much this kit ( and the 'king') retail for? The website doesn't have
            much info.
            Thanks,
            KEN

            Brian wrote:

            > Looks like that "Long Live the King" guy finally got his ESCAPE figures done!
            >
            > The helmets are too big, but still is some nice work!
            >
            > Brian
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
            > [Image]
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            Group: pota Message: 7991 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/15/2001
            Subject: California Dreamin' "POTA" style
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            .htmlHey Brian,

            I was wondering if there was anything interesting that you could tell us
            about Malibu Creek State Park -- what used to be the Fox Ranch where so many
            Fox movies and TV shows were shot.

            How much of it is left?
            Is the rock pool where the waterfall was in PLANET still there?
            Is the meadow where the cornfield in PLANET and the battefield in BATTLE
            still there?  (The last I think I saw it was in an episode on 'Deep Space
            Nine' [or was it 'Voyager'?])
            What about the spot where Ape City was?  Is that part of the park, or did
            that get sold off and had condos built on it?

            Have you ever been to where the cave was on the beach in PLANET?  I think it
            was Zuma beach, though I often read it was Point Doom.

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            Group: pota Message: 7992 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/15/2001
            Subject: Re: California Dreamin' "POTA" style
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            .html Hi Rory,
            I've visited a web site once that had photos of the ruins of 'Ape City' but for the life of me, I can't recall where. It may have been on the original 'Icarus' site but I'm not sure. The ampitheater was still there. Also, I think the photos where taken either in the 70's OR 80's. Once again I'm not sure. They were pretty interesting shots and it would have been so cool to wander around.
            Anyone else seen this site and know what I'm talking about or is my dementia kicking in?
            Best,
            KEN

            Haristas@... wrote:

            Hey Brian,

            I was wondering if there was anything interesting that you could tell us
            about Malibu Creek State Park -- what used to be the Fox Ranch where so many
            Fox movies and TV shows were shot.

            How much of it is left?
            Is the rock pool where the waterfall was in PLANET still there?
            Is the meadow where the cornfield in PLANET and the battefield in BATTLE
            still there?  (The last I think I saw it was in an episode on 'Deep Space
            Nine' [or was it 'Voyager'?])
            What about the spot where Ape City was?  Is that part of the park, or did
            that get sold off and had condos built on it?

            Have you ever been to where the cave was on the beach in PLANET?  I think it
            was Zuma beach, though I often read it was Point Doom.

            -- Rory

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            Group: pota Message: 7993 From: Brian Date: 6/15/2001
            Subject: Re: Resin Kits
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            .html I think the box says "$220"
            B

            Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

            Hey Brian,
            Any idea how much this kit ( and the 'king') retail for? The website doesn't have
            much info.
            Thanks,
            KEN

            Brian wrote:

            > Looks like that "Long Live the King" guy finally got his ESCAPE figures done!
            >
            > The helmets are too big, but still is some nice work!
            >
            > Brian
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
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            Group: pota Message: 7994 From: Brian Date: 6/15/2001
            Subject: Re: California Dreamin' "POTA" style
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            .html This is really a Jeff  Krueger or Eric Greene question.  I know that FOX owned all of that land for the longest time, that is everything that Bob Hope didn't already own.  Seems ol' Ski-nose owned just about everything from here (the Valley) to Santa Barbara for quite awhile.

            You've seen the post APE-City lake in Kung-Fu, MASH, and oodles of other shows.

            It's been about 18 years since I've been there, but I do know that the steps that  lead up to the cage area are still there as are some remnents of rebar from the cage.

            The field is still there.  Roddy stood in it for his narative for the Behind the Planet of the Apes special in 1998.

            Never hiked all the way into the beach cave area.  Had to cross a nude beach souht of Free Zuma to get there and mom never let us go that far!

            I'd like to do a fotoshoot at all of those places of interest one of these days, and bring a few apes with me for the hell of it.

            B
             

            Haristas@... wrote:

            Hey Brian,

            I was wondering if there was anything interesting that you could tell us
            about Malibu Creek State Park -- what used to be the Fox Ranch where so many
            Fox movies and TV shows were shot.

            How much of it is left?
            Is the rock pool where the waterfall was in PLANET still there?
            Is the meadow where the cornfield in PLANET and the battefield in BATTLE
            still there?  (The last I think I saw it was in an episode on 'Deep Space
            Nine' [or was it 'Voyager'?])
            What about the spot where Ape City was?  Is that part of the park, or did
            that get sold off and had condos built on it?

            Have you ever been to where the cave was on the beach in PLANET?  I think it
            was Zuma beach, though I often read it was Point Doom.

            -- Rory

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            Group: pota Message: 7995 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 6/15/2001
            Subject: Re: Resin Kits
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            .html Hmmm,
            Is there a slightly irregular resin kit warehouse outlet someplace?

            Brian wrote:

            I think the box says "$220"
            B

            Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

            Hey Brian,
            Any idea how much this kit ( and the 'king') retail for? The website doesn't have
            much info.
            Thanks,
            KEN

            Brian wrote:

            > Looks like that "Long Live the King" guy finally got his ESCAPE figures done!
            >
            > The helmets are too big, but still is some nice work!
            >
            > Brian
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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            Group: pota Message: 7996 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 6/15/2001
            Subject: Planet of the Apes!!!!
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            Planet of the Apes\
            RATED: PG-13
             
            Block buster here we come!
             
            YEEEE HAAAA!!!
             
            Best,
             
            Alex :o)
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            Group: pota Message: 7997 From: tekimball@mail.bulgaria.com Date: 6/15/2001
            Subject: story ideas
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            [I just signed onto the list after lurking for a month]

            > Was there ever an explanation as to where Ursus was during the first
            > film, I mean he just kinda appeared in Beneath as a major character.
            > I like to think he had been away on some long campaign exterminating

            Maybe he was just a lowly colonel and nobody paid him much attention.
            Even if he had his Beneath rank in Planet he wouldn't need to
            interact with Taylor any. What triggered his actions in Beneath was
            the disappearance of 9 of his scouts. Even then he had to convince
            a sufficent number of orangutans that the situation was dire in
            order to launch an expedition (i.e. famine).


            > other tribes of humans, (now that would make a nice prequel!).

            A prequel movie probably wouldn't be successful at the moment but
            there are endless opportunies for movie backstories told in comics
            or other format. The 1970's Marvel mag should have done that. Here
            are some examples of story ideas. There are probably dozens more
            possibilities.

            -Zira and Cornelius from their last appearence in Beneath up to
            the point of taking off their space helmets in Escape.

            -Caesar growing up between Escape and Conquest.

            -Preparation for either Taylor or Brent's space expedition.

            -Mandemus, Virgil, McDonald or Aldo before Battle. (Marvel did
            do a two part story between Conquest and Battle but it was awful)

            -Stories about the Lawgiver. Either the original Lawgiver or the
            altered timeline Lawgiver. e.g., What prompted him to write
            the 23rd scroll? Why is it heresy to contradict him?

            -How the mutants acquired telepathy and illusions.

            -How the orangutans took power from the last gorilla leader in the
            original timeline.

            -The abolition of the quota system before Planet.


            Besides the movie universe we have the TV series universe, the
            cartoon universe, the book universe, and now the new movie
            universe. I have the first issue of the Dark Horse comic
            set in the new movie universe and it seems pretty good.


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            Group: pota Message: 7998 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 6/15/2001
            Subject: Re: Hey, Whatever happened to...
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            In a message dated 6/15/01 8:05:40 PM, afryt4u@... writes:

            << Okay folks! Bring on the next challenge! >>

            Could you make me a custom Julius out of a Medicom Soldier Ape?

            Pipe-Dreamin' Matt
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            Group: pota Message: 7999 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/15/2001
            Subject: Re: Hey, Whatever happened to...
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            Wow Brian!
            You do nice work.
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            Group: pota Message: 8000 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/15/2001
            Subject: Re: Resin Kits
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            In a message dated 6/15/01 3:24:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
            afryt4u@... writes:

            << Looks like that "Long Live the King" guy finally got his ESCAPE figures
            done! >>

            Are these things pre-painted?
            I would hope so at thse prices.
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            Group: pota Message: 8001 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/15/2001
            Subject: Re: Resin Kits
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            Is there a website?
            What's the height on these?
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            Group: pota Message: 8002 From: Jack Krueger Date: 6/16/2001
            Subject: Re: California Dreamin' "POTA" style
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              Hi everyone!
             
              Funny this should be brought up. I was in the Virgin Megastore on Sunset Blvd. this week, and what to my wandering eyes should appear but the first "Apes" book to capitalize on the 2001 interest. David Hofstede's "Planet of the Apes- - the Unofficial Companion". The dude owes me a complimentary copy but I picked it up and there's 4 pictures of me in it, courtesy of yours truly. A picture of me and Natalie Trundy at the Zuma Beach site of the Statue of Liberty ending, a shot of me on the beach where the cave was (both of those pics were taken by none other than Eric Greene). There's a picture of me and Natalie with Bill Blake (in ape makeup, one of those "Ape Has Killed Ape" concerts) and me with Luiz Adami (in ape makeup) at Malibu Creek Park. In the "fan" chapter I'm interviewed, along with Terry Hoknes, Ken Taylor and "the Apeman". Overall, I like the book. Mostly it's a compendium, nothing in the way of new interviews but I like that the author gives his opinion. He reviews every episode of the live action and cartoon shows. It covers everything - - parodies, collectibles, it doesn't just stick to the movies. Some might consider it slight for it's $18 price tag but it's a lot of fun and perfect for all the new fans that will be born next month.
             
             OK, those sites. There's a small stretch of Zuma Beach (not Point Dume as has been mentioned). You know the opening scene of "Escape"? If you look at the rock formation behind the Army, that's where the Statue of Liberty was in the first film. If you walk past those rocks, the next thing is a cove. That's where the cave exteriors and stuff were filmed.
             
             Malibu Creek...Bill Blake is the expert on that. He's been involved on many productions there. Let's just say it's changed a lot. Bill's biggest pet peeve is that supposedly it's now protected land but they've cyhanged it more since it's been "protected" than before. We went up there for a photo shoot in '99, Adami in ape makeup that Bill applied. He showed us whhere the waterfall was, the cornfield. We went where Ape City was and found actual bits of the foam - - I have actual pieces of Ape City! The photo of me and Adami in the new book was taken where Caesar has his council meeting in "Battle". Really, the best way to see Malibu Creek is with Bill.
             
                                                                                - - - - Jeff Krueger
             
             
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            From: Brian
            Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 6:28 PM
            Subject: Re: [pota] California Dreamin' "POTA" style

            This is really a Jeff  Krueger or Eric Greene question.  I know that FOX owned all of that land for the longest time, that is everything that Bob Hope didn't already own.  Seems ol' Ski-nose owned just about everything from here (the Valley) to Santa Barbara for quite awhile.

            You've seen the post APE-City lake in Kung-Fu, MASH, and oodles of other shows.

            It's been about 18 years since I've been there, but I do know that the steps that  lead up to the cage area are still there as are some remnents of rebar from the cage.

            The field is still there.  Roddy stood in it for his narative for the Behind the Planet of the Apes special in 1998.

            Never hiked all the way into the beach cave area.  Had to cross a nude beach souht of Free Zuma to get there and mom never let us go that far!

            I'd like to do a fotoshoot at all of those places of interest one of these days, and bring a few apes with me for the hell of it.

            B
             

            Haristas@... wrote:

            Hey Brian,

            I was wondering if there was anything interesting that you could tell us
            about Malibu Creek State Park -- what used to be the Fox Ranch where so many
            Fox movies and TV shows were shot.

            How much of it is left?
            Is the rock pool where the waterfall was in PLANET still there?
            Is the meadow where the cornfield in PLANET and the battefield in BATTLE
            still there?  (The last I think I saw it was in an episode on 'Deep Space
            Nine' [or was it 'Voyager'?])
            What about the spot where Ape City was?  Is that part of the park, or did
            that get sold off and had condos built on it?

            Have you ever been to where the cave was on the beach in PLANET?  I think it
            was Zuma beach, though I often read it was Point Doom.

            -- Rory

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