.htmlIn a message dated 6/16/01 8:32:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:

Hey, you've got a point there.  In addition to the other females, where are
the monkeys?  Remember the reports of gibbons, howlers and spider monkeys.
What happened to those?

I've read something about monsters and half-horse/half-man things in the
original draft.   Good God!<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 6/16/01 9:26:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

I don't know what the distribution is like for "Makeup Artist" magazine. I
got it here at a news stand but of course the film industry is here. Maybe
Brian knows.

I've seen this magazine in the past at my local borders.  I went looking for
this issue today, but they didn't have it.  It will show up soon enough.

I saw the Starlog with the new APES article in it, but since they want $9.00
an issue now, I just read the article and put the mag back.  Ah, thank the
Lawgiver for these big bookstores.

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 6/16/01 10:10:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

Hey! I knew Vergil, Vergil was a friend of mine.

And you sir are no Vergil!

Just kidding T...

Best,
Alex

And you, sir, cannot spell Virgil.

Just kidding, A!

Best,
Rory<.html

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.htmlIn a message dated 6/16/01 11:42:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

Hey Gang, Not one to toot my own horn (too much) but Ain't It Cool News has
a link to the first teaser for our latest non-ape monster movie, "Jeepers
Creepers".
Fantastic!
Did you do the makeups for the film? I had no Idea this film was coming
out.
Looks scary a hell! I'll see it for sure.
Very cool! two thumbs up!
Best,
Alex

I agree with Alex!!!   This looks like it'll be the sleeper hit of the
summer, and next year YOU will be nominated for best make-up right alongside
with the great Rick Baker.   You heard it here first.  (BTW, Baker will win.)

Best,
Rory<.html

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Jack Krueger wrote:

 Hey, Alex - - -  I don't know what the distribution is like for "Makeup Artist" magazine. I got it here at a news stand but of course the film industry is here. Maybe Brian knows.

If you can't find it in you local newstand, go to their website <http://www.makeupmag.com/> and order it from there.

They also have some cool links to Stan Winston's Ape Tests as well as links to sites with unauthorized postings of Burton's Apes.

Brian

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.html Yup.  That's the big one we did last summer in LA and Florida.  It's a little film, but it's getting a lot of big buz

Brian

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

 Hey Gang,

Not one to toot my own horn (too much) but Ain't It Cool News has a link to the first teaser for our latest non-ape monster movie, "Jeepers Creepers".

Fantastic!

Did you do the makeups for the film? I had no Idea this film was coming out.

Looks scary a hell! I'll see it for sure.

Very cool! two thumbs up!

Best,

Alex

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Haristas@... wrote:...

 

I agree with Alex!!!   This looks like it'll be the sleeper hit of the
summer, and next year YOU will be nominated for best make-up right alongside
with the great Rick Baker.   You heard it here first.  (BTW, Baker will win.)

Best,
Rory

And if he doesn't, I'll hand him mine!  (Heheh)

..awe shucks, who am I kidding?

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<< and like hot pizza eggrolls on a craft service table >>

TM
TM
You mean Pizza Rolls, Brian? Just say Pizza Rolls. Or has Fox got you so
brainwashed that you can't say brand names? -- Even in your own e-mails!

You cut out his Brains YOU BLOODY BABOONS!!!!!!

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LordTZer0@... wrote:

<< and like hot pizza eggrolls on a craft service table >>

                                 TM
         TM
You mean Pizza Rolls, Brian?  Just say Pizza Rolls.  Or has Fox got you so
brainwashed that you can't say brand names?  --  Even in your own e-mails!

You cut out his Brains  YOU BLOODY BABOONS!!!!!!
 
 

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<< You mean you asume. Because you, like I, and everyone else have not yet
seen the film. Are they all like Ari? >>

Never ass-u-me. When you do you make an ass of you and me.
You only assume I'm assuming!
How do you know I don't know, eh?
Maybe I don't! But you don't know that!
Okay, back to the real me. Or so I'd have you believe! Wah hahahahaha...
All I'm saying is, that if in fact there are other females, they don't get
invited to the really good dinner parties. Maybe they're too ugly. Perhaps
the human look is really in, and only the chimpettes are hip to it yet. (see
pic in Premier magazine)

In a message dated 6/16/01 10:14:32 PM Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:

<< I've read something about monsters and half-horse/half-man things in the
original draft. Good God! >>

"If I saw this half-horse/half-woman and the rest of her was in the stall
would I be turned on by her? Is there centaur porn?"
~Christopher
Walken on SNL~

What is it with Walken's SNL characters? The last time his wife was a
bobcat. Good dancer though.

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.htmlYou know how PLANET OF THE APES is often, especially by FOX, talked about in
terms of it being a saga; that it's the entire series of films, and some
would even throw in the TV series, cartoon series, and even the Marvel comics?

Well, I -- of course -- don't think of it that way.   When I watch the
original film, I don't sit there and think, This is just the first part of a
bigger story.   I consider it an entirely complete and seperate thing.

I also feel the same way about the sequels, even though they often reference
events from the previous film.

Anybody else think this way?   However, I know there must be some of you
younger fans out there that saw these films on TV for the first time, and
probably out of sequence, and so therefore see it as a five-film saga.   If
so, please say so, I'd be interested in knowing.

-- Rory<.html

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<< I also feel the same way about the sequels, even though they often
reference
events from the previous film. >>

I do, in a way. But when they made the first one they didn't know there'd be
another.
Same thing with the second. Now by the third it was obvious with the open
ending they were going to milk it for all it was worth. But whether
consciously aware of it or not, you could just feel that things were changed
or outright ignored from film to film. Not much point in looking for reasons
or answers. No one had a video at home to check it with back then anyway.
Just sit back, eat your popcorn and hope for another one.

<http://www.ufoshirts.com/02marspg2.html">

.html A freelance journalist friend of mine in LA wrote to tell me about it. Here's what he had to say:

"Saw a surprisingly effective horror movie tonight, called Jeepers Creepers -
doesn't start over here for a couple of months - I was genuinely scared by it - it wasn't just
another Scream ripoff. Reminded me of Texas Chainsaw, and Near Dark."

I trust his opinion, so I'll be checking it out when ( and if ) it reached our shores.
Best,
KEN

Brian wrote:

Hey Gang,

Not one to toot my own horn (too much) but Ain't It Cool News has a link to the first teaser for our latest non-ape monster movie, "Jeepers Creepers".

Have a look if you like:

<http://www.apple.com/trailers/mgm/jeepers_creepers.html">  or
<http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=9327>  Look for the Jeepers Creepers link.

Let me know what you think...

Brian

 

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Did anyone else check out A*P*E?
Wow! That ape really stunk up the place.
Now that's bad movie making. He flipped off the last helicopter he
destroyed. And wore a gorilla suit that would have done the Prohaska Bros.
proud.
It seemed tailor made for MST3K. I missed the beging how did it start?

Best line . . . "Lets see him dance for his organ grinder now!"

.html In a message dated 6/16/01 2:35:17 PM Central Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

But again it's nothing really new, as there is no Orang on the face of the
earth that looks like the ones in the Original? Orangs don't look like Dr.
Zaius, they look very different from what was presented in the original

Granted you have a point there,but I'd say the most realistic of the bunch
is/was the President of the Assembly.They did a good job with Whitmore's
make-up.

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.html In a message dated 6/16/01 2:26:40 PM Central Daylight Time,
mlccougar@... writes:

Awhile back on eBay there was a lot of Megos up for auction.The seller said
they were used by some teens to make stop motion films.

So this brings up this question to the group:Did any of you guys ever try
making stop motion Apes movies using your Mego figures?How did they turn
out
if you did?And have you gotten them transferred to video yet?

I'm serious now,can anyone explain to me how Alex was able to reply to this
posting before I even received it?I've seen this many times before:I start
getting postings on other postings that I haven't even received yet.Sometimes
I wonder if my postings are even getting out there....

Does anyone else have this problem with delayed postings (or unreceived
postings)?Is this something Yahoo! is looking into?Anyone have any idea of
whats going on with them....?

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .
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.html In a message dated 6/16/01 5:48:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

I actually remember thinking how fake it was the first time I saw the
movie - and I was 12 years old and very cautious to be critical of anything
POTA!!!!

It sure detracted from credibility on a global scale.

Michael

It sure did,Thats why I wish they would have just cut a day of shooting or
just transferred a little bit of money from the other areas of production to
supply the money for make-ups for the primitive apes.I'm sure they could have
done all the shooting with the primitive apes in one day and it would have
looked 1000 times better.I like Escape,but those "Gilligan's Island" apes
really do put a damper on the scenes they are in.

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.htmlIn a message dated 6/17/01 5:55:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:

Did anyone else check out A*P*E?
Wow!  That ape really stunk up the place.
Now that's bad movie making.  He flipped off the last helicopter he
destroyed.  And wore a gorilla suit that would have done the Prohaska Bros.
proud.
It seemed tailor made for MST3K.  I missed the beging how did it start?

Best line . . . "Lets see him dance for his organ grinder now!"

Yeah, I watched some of it.   REALLY BAD!!   <.html

.htmlAlex, You might want to check this out:

At 12:30 PM today (Sunday, June 17) on the Miami ABC station, channel 10, is
a show called:

"Joel Siegel's Summer Film Preview"

Since Joel Siegel is the movie reviewer for ABC's "Good Morning America," I
would think this show will pop up on other ABC stations around the country.

I'm interested in what he'll have to say about Burton's POTA and maybe about
classic APES.

-- Rory<.html

.html Yeah, I'm still airing out the house too!  My favorite line, besides all the unnecessary G'dams by the lame General, was from the blonde love interest,"Be gentle, Big Guy."

It started with a ship on the high seas, captain and crew member talking about how big the APE (in the cargo hold) was and that he had enuff gas in him to keep him asleep for 5 days.  BOOM!  The little plastic model of the boat explodes and there's this 36 foot cigar store gorilla splashing around with a giant (dead) shark.  Go figure.

That one certainly takes the cake as all-time Stink-o-rama!!

B

LordTZer0@... wrote:

Did anyone else check out A*P*E?
Wow!  That ape really stunk up the place.
Now that's bad movie making.  He flipped off the last helicopter he
destroyed.  And wore a gorilla suit that would have done the Prohaska Bros.
proud.
It seemed tailor made for MST3K.  I missed the beging how did it start?

Best line . . . "Lets see him dance for his organ grinder now!"
 
 

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All I can say is , "Good Luck , Terry!"

<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1155884686>

Lotsa cool images at the bottom

<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1437910176>

This really sickens me, so I'm sharing my indigestion with the rest of
you.

As we get closer to the release of the new movie, more and more of the
"actual movie props" will show up on eBay. Weather the sellers are
greedy or just plain stupid or both is of no consequence, what matters
is that FOX considers any of the items that they themselves have not
earmarked for auctions or contest giveaways stolen contraband.

I know several eBay bidders who have paid for original ape items from
Rick's lab and never received them from the sellers. I also know of a
couple of folks who won items paid for them, received them, and then had
to turn them over to authorities, so they're out the cash and the goods.

So a word to the wise, these items are stolen, whether they were "found"
or not. FOX owns them, and any seller that tries to convince fans
differently is out of his or her mind.

Be careful folks.

<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1437910176>

Brian Penikas
Apemania.com

Hey y'all, Florida was brill, I miss home so much I was even eating
up the tv commercials -- Isn't THAT sad!

Observation: Didn't see ONE measly PotA trailer on TV or a Burton
reference anywhere in all our store/mall wanderings, apart from the
new publication of Boulle's book which -- oddly -- sports a cover
shot taken from the new film. Which is a tad misleading, I think. On
the other hand, there's plenty of coverage for Disney's new Atlantis
movie and 'Tomb Raider'. Hope this is just the silence before the
storm.

Now my question for Michael and Terry: Are there still official PotA
Tv Series videos left, and would either or both of you be willing to
have your contact details splashed on my site for those who want to
make a purchase? If so, please let me know where specifically to
direct people. Thanks! /Mez

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Actually,on the subject of female orangutans,there was one in the original movies.In Conquest,the orangutan at the book store,(getting the book of the shelf),is supposed to be a female.All the times I had watched it before I hadn't given it any thought.But then about a year and a half ago,while talking to someone who makes custom figures,I asked if he ever thought of making a female orangutan.He said "What do you mean,like the one in Conquest?"I said "Huh?" Then he said about the one in the book store.He said "Yeah,look at her better next time you watch it.You'll see that she has the 'softer' more subtle makeup like the female chimps.And she has a more 'feminine' appearance".Well after we hung up,I got out my tape of Conquest,FFWD it to the book store scene,and gave it a look.While I'm still not 100% that he is right,I think he may be...I do see a difference in her appearance.Maybe some of it is because of "power of suggestion" or maybe he is totally correct,it is a female or!
angutan....

So,if any of you out there in the group have any thoughts on this,or if you can confirm or dis-prove this female orangutan theory,please do so.

Tim Roth's words:

"It is not Shakespeare. It should be just seriously good mad fun. Good old
action sci-fi fun movie whatever."

Why does this quote fill me with dread?

Alan

Ken Taylor <kentaylor@...> wrote:

>Although we sent all the locally developed art to our Home office in
>L.A should other countries want to pursue a similar release, I'd
>imagine that the Fox domestic office would not think ( or even realize
>the tapes had been released in Australia) to ask the International
>office for the art.

Why not contact them and make them aware of it then? I'm sure they'd be glad
to know that if they do get round to releasing the series then at least this
will mean less work and more money for them.

Alan

Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:

>I'm sure this will fascinate everyone, especially Alan over there in

Scotland.


Hey, I'm always happy to hear other people's childhood stories of Apeness. I
have recently come up with a plan to deduce the exact time and date that I
first got exposed to PotA, though it'll take a couple of web sites and a
visit to the local library.

I could have sworn it was mid to late 80s, but now I think it looks like it
might have been the start of 1990. How the mind plays tricks as old age
approaches...*

Alan
*That's a lie, I'm only coming up for 24 years old - even the TV series is
older than me.

Brian <afryt4u@...> wrote:

>...that hunka junk mask that came our way last week.
>
>Well, here it is....

WOW. When it was first suggested (by Ken, I think) that this mask was a
Cornelius, my immediate reaction was "no it isn't". Having seen your
restoration though... unbelievable. The picture on the bottom right is the
best. Fantastic work, Brian.

Alan

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B

Alan Maxwell wrote:

Brian <afryt4u@...> wrote:
>...that hunka junk mask that came our way last week.
>
>Well, here it is....

WOW. When it was first suggested (by Ken, I think) that this mask was a
Cornelius, my immediate reaction was "no it isn't". Having seen your
restoration though... unbelievable. The picture on the bottom right is the
best. Fantastic work, Brian.

Alan
 
 

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In a message dated 6/17/01 12:41:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
mdownes@... writes:

<< Didn't see ONE measly PotA trailer on TV >>

Yeah, Mez!
With the release slated for a little over a month away you'd think we'd be
inundated by them. I've only seen the commercial twice. And once was on the
Fox movie channel. And the trailer only once, and that was because I chanced
to walk past the theater by the bookstore.

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<< So,if any of you out there in the group have any thoughts on this,or if
you can confirm or dis-prove this female orangutan theory,please do so >>

Yeah, I thought everyone knew that was a female orang. Having never seen one
before in any of the previous films, she just stands out. Look at the eyes!

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.html First things first.Alex,thanks for posting the address for the Jersey
convention.
  By the way,here it is again:

http://www.supermegashow.com/

New Jersey Convention!


Now as to why I'm posting.I'm VERY sure there is no way I'll be going
there.(I have the "Snowball's chance in Hell" of actually getting
there.)BUT,I would very much like to get Harrison's,Wagner's,and Colman's
autographs.Therefore,I'm asking you,the members of the group,if you could get
them for me.Of course I'd pay you back all the money it cost for their
autographs/pictures,plus half the cost of a one day's admission or something
like that.

If any of you would be willing to do this for me,please contact me privately
so we can work out the details.THANK YOU!!!<.html

> ...Be careful waht you wish for, because ready or not here it comes!
>
> Best,
> Alex

Well, that laundry list of tv spots and trailers makes me feel a bit
better, 'cept I'll miss most of them...Till the August UK release,
anyway. But I'm confused. Didn't the media used to hype up
forthcoming films a lot earlier than they do nowadays? Or am I just
suffering from the "It seemed bigger/to take longer when I was a
child" syndrome?

Go ahead. Tell me I'm getting old. /Mez

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.htmlIn a message dated 6/16/01 11:45:47 PM Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:

Hey Rory,

Speaking for me,here are my thoughts on this posting of your's:

You know how PLANET OF THE APES is often, especially by FOX, talked about
in
terms of it being a saga; that it's the entire series of films, and some
would even throw in the TV series, cartoon series, and even the Marvel
comics?

Well, I -- of course -- don't think of it that way.   When I watch the
original film, I don't sit there and think, This is just the first part of
a
bigger story.   I consider it an entirely complete and seperate thing.

I also feel the same way about the sequels, even though they often
reference
events from the previous film.


   Well as for tying everything together,awhile back,I posted my POTA
timeline.In it,I tied the movies and tv series into it.Since I don't count
the cartoon or the comics as APES canon,I left them out.So in a way,I do look
on them as a continuing timeline.They "can" be tied together as a saga if you
want them to be.

Anybody else think this way?   However, I know there must be some of you
younger fans out there that saw these films on TV for the first time, and
probably out of sequence, and so therefore see it as a five-film saga.   If
so, please say so, I'd be interested in knowing.

  But as for looking at the films as entirely different things,not tied
together,I can see how you do.I mean I do look at Planet as the best of the
lot of course,and I do watch it as its own story.BUT,if I think of them as a
saga,then I look at it like this:I look at the 1st three as a trilogy,and the
last two are very much their own stories.Its not something I really think on
when I do watch them,and I will admit my feelings kinda go back n forth on
this subject.Sometimes I do tie them together,other times I look at them as
seperate entities.I'm really not sure how I feel on this subject because,like
I said,I can see it both ways.But now you have a rough idea of how I feel on
this.Ok,I gave no concrete answer but maybe you'll know what I mean....

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.htmlIn a message dated 6/17/01 3:39:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
mlccougar@... writes:

Subj: [pota] The Jersey convention
Date: 6/17/01 3:39:23 PM Central Daylight Time
From:    mlccougar@...
Reply-to: pota@yahoogroups.com
To:    pota@yahoogroups.com




First things first.Alex,thanks for posting the address for the Jersey
convention.

 By the way,here it is again:

http://www.supermegashow.com/

New Jersey Convention!



Now as to why I'm posting.I'm VERY sure there is no way I'll be going
there.(I have the "Snowball's chance in Hell" of actually getting
there.)BUT,I would very much like to get Harrison's,Wagner's,and Colman's
autographs.Therefore,I'm asking you,the members of the group,if you could
get
them for me.Of course I'd pay you back all the money it cost for their
autographs/pictures,plus half the cost of a one day's admission or
something
like that.

If any of you would be willing to do this for me,please contact me
privately
so we can work out the details.THANK YOU!!!


 I just looked at the sight again,and seen that Buck Kartalian (Julius) and
Joe Russo (author,Planet of the Apes Revisited) will also be attending.Add
them to my list...!!!!

I AM serious about the above mentioned deal.If any of you are going to this
show,I would work out something with you if you would get their autographs
for me.Again,if you will be attending,and are willing to do this for
me,please let me know.Thanks.....


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Jeff Krueger <williejoe@...> wrote:

>Knowing the locations doesn't bother me. I'm very
>good at suspending my disbelief. The one exception
>might be knowing that "Escape" opens on the Statue
>of liberty beach. It's so distinctive that it just
>pops out at me now.

Different strokes for different folks I guess - the very first time I saw
"Escape" I thought immediately that it was the very same beach. I thought
that it was perhaps deliberate - audiences knowing what to expect from the
first two films would then be taken aback when the first thing that pops up
is a helicopter! "This ain't the future!!"

Alan

Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:

> Elfman's score IS one thing I'm very much looking forward to. It should

be

> good, and I hope most of it gets put on the soundtrack CD.

Likewise, I think that despite my lack of enthusiasm for the new film I will
probably buy the soundtrack before I've even seen it. I quite like Danny
Elfman, and it seems to me that the bizarre world of the Planet of the Apes
is perfectly suited to his talents. I can't wait to hear what he comes up
with.

Just as long as they don't end up with a bloody song album.

Alan

Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:

> In case any of you haven't noticed, Yahoo still isn't working right. I'm
> only getting about 85% of what's posted. Luckily, somebody replies to

most

> things, so I get to read the original message in the reply.
>
> Lousy Yahoo bastards.

I don't seem to be experiencing any problems - I suspect it may be more
related to your ISP or something like that than Yahoo. For example, it would
appear to me that all of you AOLers are having a bit of trouble whereas I
seem to get the messages okay.

Alan

Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:

> Anybody else think this way? However, I know there must be some of you
> younger fans out there that saw these films on TV for the first time, and
> probably out of sequence, and so therefore see it as a five-film saga.

If

> so, please say so, I'd be interested in knowing.

Having only been exposed to the films through TV (in the order Battle,
Conquest, Planet, Beneath, Escape, Adventure Comics, Marvel Mags, TV series)
I tend to look at them mostly as one saga. I do however see the original
film as a stand alone work. However, I also see it as part of a greater saga
as well, if that's possible. I also tend to look upon the first two as a
pair. The latter three films however, I very much see as being parts of a
whole. Hmm, I've really not made myself clear there.

The comics I see as part of the saga too, although the Marvel series can
definitely stand alone as a wierd, far-out vision of Planet of the Apes.

Alan

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Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:

> Well, "Tomb Raider" is getting REALLY BAD
> reviews, so I'm going to skip it.

Funny you should mention that, Rory. I've just recently been playing Tomb
Raider 3 (yeah, I know they're up to about five games by now, but I'm a
little behind) and was interested to spot something Ape-related.

The first part of the game that took my fancy was a level that takes place
in the abandoned Aldwych underground station in London - very
"Beneath"-like, right down to the hideously mutated humans. But anyway...

In the re-released version of Tomb Raider 3 ("The Lost Artifact") there are
some extra levels. One of them is a kind of abandoned zoo/aviary type place
in France. The level itself is named "It's a Madhouse... A Madhouse!" and
the walls are decorated with various French pictures including, in several
places, the attached picture. Looks like someone there is an Apes fan!

Alan

.html Hi Alan,
As I no longer work there I really don't feel that obliged to make contact. Also, I'm interested to see what they come up with and hope it is different to what we did here in Australia. That would make our humble Aussie release even more unique.
Best,
KEN

Alan Maxwell wrote:

 

Why not contact them and make them aware of it then? I'm sure they'd be glad
to know that if they do get round to releasing the series then at least this
will mean less work and more money for them.

Alan
 
 
 
 

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.htmlIn a message dated 6/17/01 7:26:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
alan@... writes:

Why not contact them and make them aware of it then? I'm sure they'd be glad
to know that if they do get round to releasing the series then at least this
will mean less work and more money for them.

Alan

This is silly!   When the TV show comes out here in the US on DVD, the
so-called 'art' will be done here by Americans for what is an American show
based on an American film series on American DVDs!   You people will just
have to live with the usually lousy job Fox does, just as THIS American has
had to for years and years!  Why do you think I designed my own POTA DVD
cover!!!!

GET OVER IT, YOU ENGLISH-SPEAKING COUSINS!!!!

-- Rory (the ugly American)<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 6/17/01 7:31:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

Oh alost forgot!

MTV 30 min. Special
July 16th at 10:30 PM East Coast Time.

Best,
Alex



Alex, please try and remember to post these things closer to the actual dates.

Also, is the new POTA trailer June 22nd (my birthday, BTW) or is it July 22nd?

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.htmlIn a message dated 6/17/01 9:00:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
tekimball@... writes:

-Zira and Cornelius from their last appearence in Beneath up to
the point of taking off their space helmets in Escape.

-Caesar growing up between Escape and Conquest.

-Preparation for either Taylor or Brent's space expedition.

-Mandemus, Virgil, McDonald or Aldo before Battle.  (Marvel did
do a two part story between Conquest and Battle but it was awful)

-Stories about the Lawgiver.  Either the original Lawgiver or the
altered timeline Lawgiver.  e.g., What prompted him to write
the 23rd scroll?  Why is it heresy to contradict him?

-How the mutants acquired telepathy and illusions.

-How the orangutans took power from the last gorilla leader in the
original timeline.

-The abolition of the quota system before Planet.

Hey, that's a lot of good ideas there, whoever you are.

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 6/17/01 8:00:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
tekimball@... writes:

.  What triggered his actions in Beneath was
the disappearance of 9 of his scouts.  

12 of my finest scouts just disappeared.Vanished into thin air.

Eleven

Oh very well eleven.Eleven.And the 12th returns with incredible stories of
huge walls of fire,strange violent earthquakes.His mind gone...Shattered no
doubt,by some unsimian torture....

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.htmlIn a message dated 6/17/01 8:53:09 PM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:

tekimball@... writes:

-Zira and Cornelius from their last appearence in Beneath up to
the point of taking off their space helmets in Escape.

-Caesar growing up between Escape and Conquest.

-Preparation for either Taylor or Brent's space expedition.

-Mandemus, Virgil, McDonald or Aldo before Battle.  (Marvel did
do a two part story between Conquest and Battle but it was awful)

-Stories about the Lawgiver.  Either the original Lawgiver or the
altered timeline Lawgiver.  e.g., What prompted him to write
the 23rd scroll?  Why is it heresy to contradict him?

-How the mutants acquired telepathy and illusions.

-How the orangutans took power from the last gorilla leader in the
original timeline.

-The abolition of the quota system before Planet.

Hey, that's a lot of good ideas there, whoever you are.

-- Rory

I do agree with Rory.These ARE good ideas....
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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 8:08 AM

Subject: [pota] A*P*E*

Yeah, I'm still airing out the house too!  My favorite line, besides all the unnecessary G'dams by the lame General, was from the blonde love interest,"Be gentle, Big Guy."

It started with a ship on the high seas, captain and crew member talking about how big the APE (in the cargo hold) was and that he had enuff gas in him to keep him asleep for 5 days.  BOOM!  The little plastic model of the boat explodes and there's this 36 foot cigar store gorilla splashing around with a giant (dead) shark.  Go figure.

That one certainly takes the cake as all-time Stink-o-rama!!

B

LordTZer0@... wrote:

Did anyone else check out A*P*E?
Wow!  That ape really stunk up the place.
Now that's bad movie making.  He flipped off the last helicopter he
destroyed.  And wore a gorilla suit that would have done the Prohaska Bros.
proud.
It seemed tailor made for MST3K.  I missed the beging how did it start?

Best line . . . "Lets see him dance for his organ grinder now!"
 
 

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.htmlTheres a nice piece in the July Star log on the apes .Bryan<.html

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 5:11 PM

Subject: [pota] POTA Figures

POTA FIGURES ON E-BAY!

 

Uhhh....RIP OFF ALERT!

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1608223381

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1608223640

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1608223219

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1608223026

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1608222624

 

Best,

Alex

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.htmlThis post is for all the members of the group that are subscribed to AOL.

On Tuesday,June 19th @ 7pm central/8pm eastern time we will be having a
Planet of the Apes chat in the AOL chat rooms.You are all welcome....(so far
its Rory and myself.We need you guys to be there too,or else we might as well
just be doing an IM).

In case you don't know how to join a members only chat,here goes:

First,click on "Chat" (under "People")
then,click on "Find a chat"
Click on "Created by AOL members"
then go to the bottom,and click on "Search all AOL member chats"
type Planet of the Apes in the white box that will come up,then click on
search.
the room name will come up,then click on "Go Chat".That will take you to the
room.

I hope you can understand my directions (that is if you didn't know how to
get there).Well I guess we'll see how many show up.I know there are a few AOL
people in this egroup so LordT,Jse,and all others,you are all invited.....<.html

Can't we all just get a loan? - - - Rodney King

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian" <afryt4u@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 9:46 AM
Subject: [pota] Any Takers?


> All I can say is , "Good Luck , Terry!"
>
> <http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1155884686>
>
> Lotsa cool images at the bottom
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

what about the folks who win them in that scavenger hunt?
- - - - - Jeff, no, Alex

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian" <afryt4u@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 10:01 AM
Subject: [pota] A word to the wise...


>
> <http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1437910176>
>
> This really sickens me, so I'm sharing my indigestion with the rest of
> you.
>
> As we get closer to the release of the new movie, more and more of the
> "actual movie props" will show up on eBay. Weather the sellers are
> greedy or just plain stupid or both is of no consequence, what matters
> is that FOX considers any of the items that they themselves have not
> earmarked for auctions or contest giveaways stolen contraband.
>
> I know several eBay bidders who have paid for original ape items from
> Rick's lab and never received them from the sellers. I also know of a
> couple of folks who won items paid for them, received them, and then had
> to turn them over to authorities, so they're out the cash and the goods.
>
> So a word to the wise, these items are stolen, whether they were "found"
> or not. FOX owns them, and any seller that tries to convince fans
> differently is out of his or her mind.
>
> Be careful folks.
>
> <http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1437910176>
>
> Brian Penikas
> Apemania.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Alan - - -

You're the same age as Natalie Trundy's children...and they don't even
know which of the movies she was in or what roles she played.

- - - - Jeff, no,
Rory

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] POTA and ONE MILLION YEARS BC


> Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:
> >I'm sure this will fascinate everyone, especially Alan over there in
> Scotland.
>
>
> Hey, I'm always happy to hear other people's childhood stories of Apeness.
I
> have recently come up with a plan to deduce the exact time and date that I
> first got exposed to PotA, though it'll take a couple of web sites and a
> visit to the local library.
>
> I could have sworn it was mid to late 80s, but now I think it looks like
it
> might have been the start of 1990. How the mind plays tricks as old age
> approaches...*
>
> Alan
> *That's a lie, I'm only coming up for 24 years old - even the TV series is
> older than me.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 11:35 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Tim Roth talks about Roddy McDowall

"It is not Shakespeare. It should be just seriously good mad fun. Good old
action sci-fi fun movie whatever."

Why does this quote fill me with dread?

Alan

It is a replay of an actor, not a fan.

An actor can't be a fan of himself, if so then that actor would have a real personal problem :o)

 

Best,

Alex

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 12:02 PM

Subject: [pota] POTA T.V. Spots

Yeah, Mez!
With the release slated for a little over a month away you'd think we'd be
inundated by them.  I've only seen the commercial twice.  And once was on the
Fox movie channel.  And the trailer only once, and that was because I chanced
to walk past the theater by the bookstore.

 

A run down on what's coming:

 

HBO First Look in July 30 min. special

E! Behind the scenes 30 min. special

Pepsi Commercials as was with Star Wars

POTA Toy Commercials

3rd Trailer June 22nd

FOX Channel 30 min. speacil as was with X-Men

And hopefuly Trailer T.V. spots as we finally enter July.

 

Be careful waht you wish for, because ready or not here it comes!

 

Best,

Alex

 

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They actually covered this in the trades, Mez. The industry is having a
downturn and they want to advertise closer to the release dates to maximize
the investment. In the case of "Godzilla" it was overkill long before the
movie arrived. The director said people wanted to see "Godzilla" months
before it arrived. Plus there's just so many damn movies there's no
billboards available yet!

- - - - Jeff
K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mez Downes" <mdownes@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 12:39 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: POTA T.V. Spots


> > ...Be careful waht you wish for, because ready or not here it comes!
> >
> > Best,
> > Alex
>
> Well, that laundry list of tv spots and trailers makes me feel a bit
> better, 'cept I'll miss most of them...Till the August UK release,
> anyway. But I'm confused. Didn't the media used to hype up
> forthcoming films a lot earlier than they do nowadays? Or am I just
> suffering from the "It seemed bigger/to take longer when I was a
> child" syndrome?
>
> Go ahead. Tell me I'm getting old. /Mez
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Cool! I will be there for sure and I'm inviting a friend of mine that's an
Apes fan that's not on this list.

Loc


In a message dated 6/17/01 11:38:47 PM Central Daylight Time,
mlccougar@... writes:

> This post is for all the members of the group that are subscribed to AOL.
>
> On Tuesday,June 19th @ 7pm central/8pm eastern time we will be having a
> Planet of the Apes chat in the AOL chat rooms.You are all welcome....(so

far

>
> its Rory and myself.We need you guys to be there too,or else we might as
> well
> just be doing an IM).
>
> In case you don't know how to join a members only chat,here goes:
>
> First,click on "Chat" (under "People")
> then,click on "Find a chat"
> Click on "Created by AOL members"
> then go to the bottom,and click on "Search all AOL member chats"
> type Planet of the Apes in the white box that will come up,then click on
> search.
> the room name will come up,then click on "Go Chat".That will take you to

the

>
> room.
>
> I hope you can understand my directions (that is if you didn't know how

to

> get there).Well I guess we'll see how many show up.I know there are a few
> AOL
> people in this egroup so LordT,Jse,and all others,you are all invited.....
>
>
> This post is for all the members of the group that are subscribed to AOL.
>
>
> On Tuesday,June 19th @ 7pm central/8pm eastern time we will be having a
> Planet of the Apes chat in the AOL chat rooms.You are all welcome....(so

far

>
> its Rory and myself.We need you guys to be there too,or else we might as
> well
> just be doing an IM).
>
> In case you don't know how to join a members only chat,here goes:
>
> First,click on "Chat" (under "People")
> then,click on "Find a chat"
> Click on "Created by AOL members"
> then go to the bottom,and click on "Search all AOL member chats"
> type Planet of the Apes in the white box that will come up,then click on
> search.
> the room name will come up,then click on "Go Chat".That will take you to

the

>
> room.
>

You made that Up!!! - - - Jeff, no, Roger Ebert

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Another weekend, another movie!


> Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:
> > Well, "Tomb Raider" is getting REALLY BAD
> > reviews, so I'm going to skip it.
>
> Funny you should mention that, Rory. I've just recently been playing Tomb
> Raider 3 (yeah, I know they're up to about five games by now, but I'm a
> little behind) and was interested to spot something Ape-related.
>
> The first part of the game that took my fancy was a level that takes place
> in the abandoned Aldwych underground station in London - very
> "Beneath"-like, right down to the hideously mutated humans. But anyway...
>
> In the re-released version of Tomb Raider 3 ("The Lost Artifact") there
are
> some extra levels. One of them is a kind of abandoned zoo/aviary type
place
> in France. The level itself is named "It's a Madhouse... A Madhouse!" and
> the walls are decorated with various French pictures including, in several
> places, the attached picture. Looks like someone there is an Apes fan!
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi Mez

I am finding it extremely difficult to find Box 1 of the TV Series. Ken
Taylor believes there are still some in Sydney so please go ahead and give
my details on the site and I'll always do my very best for fans (not for
dealers and please specify this!!).

Also. Bryan is currently attempting to have copies made of the box sets to
NTSC format - depending how these turn out maybe you could list him too!

Thanks Mez.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Mez Downes [mdownes@...]
Sent: Monday, 18 June 2001 3:41
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Back and question for Michael W. and Terry H.

Hey y'all, Florida was brill, I miss home so much I was even eating
up the tv commercials -- Isn't THAT sad!

Observation: Didn't see ONE measly PotA trailer on TV or a Burton
reference anywhere in all our store/mall wanderings, apart from the
new publication of Boulle's book which -- oddly -- sports a cover
shot taken from the new film. Which is a tad misleading, I think. On
the other hand, there's plenty of coverage for Disney's new Atlantis
movie and 'Tomb Raider'. Hope this is just the silence before the
storm.

Now my question for Michael and Terry: Are there still official PotA
Tv Series videos left, and would either or both of you be willing to
have your contact details splashed on my site for those who want to
make a purchase? If so, please let me know where specifically to
direct people. Thanks! /Mez

I've never got to read too many of the Marvel comics but would be interested
to know what happens in this story, could someone tell me please
Ta
Steve

>-Mandemus, Virgil, McDonald or Aldo before Battle. (Marvel did<
>do a two part story between Conquest and Battle but it was awful)<

I know of one Borders that has Make-up Artist magazine, and they didn't have
any.
Maybe they didn't get them yet or they're out. They only have 5
subscriptions for it, and I know this is the issue that everyone will get. I
hope Terry or someone is buying extra copies for those of us unable to find
them.

.htmlIn a message dated 6/17/01 10:44:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

Talk about your fake reviews...check this out!

http://www.filmjerk.com/010616.html"

Best,
Alex



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In a message dated 6/18/01 12:38:37 AM, mlccougar@... writes:

<< On Tuesday,June 19th @ 7pm central/8pm eastern time we will be having a
Planet of the Apes chat in the AOL chat rooms.You are all welcome....(so far
its Rory and myself.We need you guys to be there too,or else we might as well
just be doing an IM). >>

I would go if it's around 10:30 eastern. 8:00 is too early for me (sorry, my
fatherly duties take priority here).

Matt

In a message dated 6/18/01 1:05:51 AM, williejoe@... writes:

<< You're the same age as Natalie Trundy's children...and they don't even
know which of the movies she was in or what roles she played. >>

I caught a few brief glimpses of a young Nat Trundy last night. "Mr. Hobbs
Takes a Vacation" was on cable (didn't watch the whole thing yet - is it
worthwhile?)

Matt

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LordTZer0@... wrote:

I know of one Borders that has Make-up Artist magazine, and they didn't have
any.
Maybe they didn't get them yet or they're out.  They only have 5
subscriptions for it, and I know this is the issue that everyone will get.  I
hope Terry or someone is buying extra copies for those of us unable to find
them.
 
 

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.htmlHi Michael,the price for all 3 videos in box 1 for transfer is 48.00 but you
must wait two weeks cheaper rate.To do 1 video say tape 1 for 24 hour rush is
48.00.Not good i would wait the two weeks.Box 2 i will drop them off when box
one is ready,Bummer looks like july before i can see them! But something to
do till new movie hits in july. BRYAN  PS.I spoke to Jane at Fox and i asked
her about Tv series in nov 20th.If she would ask if dvds will have interviews
with RON HARPER and JAMES NAUGHTON and why show ended so quikly and also MARK
LENORD who plays URKO is he even alive ?  Was show too expensive to make?
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In a message dated 6/18/01 2:46:29 PM, Kay53531@... writes:

<< MARK LENORD who plays URKO is he even alive ? >>

Mark Lenord (sp?) died about five years ago if I recall.

Matt

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.htmlIn a message dated 6/18/01 2:46:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Kay53531@...
writes:

also MARK
LENORD who plays URKO is he even alive ?  Was show too expensive to make?
Bryan

Mark Lenard died on November 22, 1996 (multiple myeloma).

The show was too expensive for the kind of ratings it had.

-- Rory<.html

> Mark Lenard died on November 22, 1996 (multiple myeloma).

I had no idea what that was until I looked it up tonight. It's a form
of bone marrow cancer.

> The show was too expensive for the kind of ratings it had.
>
> -- Rory

Well, let's be honest. It was done on a shoestring and slammed into a
timeslot it had a snowball's chance in hell of surviving on a first
outing (Fridays, 8 p.m.). I think one of the reasons it did so much
better ratings-wise in the UK is because the Brits gave it a Sunday
night timeslot. With that and some bedding in time I think it could
have taken off in the US too. I mean, who thought ST:TNG was good in
its first season??? It wasn't until the writers stopped ripping off
storylines from the original series and had a chance to develop the
new characters that it became a hit. /Mez