> They actually covered this in the trades, Mez. The industry is
> having a downturn and they want to advertise closer to the release
> dates to maximize the investment.

Hm. Sounds like biz talk for 'We have no confidence in the box office
of [name the film], so let's not waste too much money advertising it!'

> In the case of "Godzilla" it was overkill long before the
> movie arrived. The director said people wanted to see "Godzilla"
> months before it arrived.

So an overgrown lizard with the breath of death gets preferential
treatment over our loveable apes? I demand a recount!!!

> Plus there's just so many damn movies there's no billboards
> available yet!

I've often thought the shuttle solid rocket boosters would make
terrific billboards. All we need is for our people in FL to practice
their rappelling and get creative with some paint. :) /Mez

Mark Lenard passed away Nov. 22, 1996. I had the pleasure of meeting him in
1994 just before Star Trek: Generations came out at a special Star Trek
autograph signing at NASA in Houston. He was a great man and signed
everything I had for free. He was also selling pictures for sale that he
would sign, but I don't remember if he had anything from Apes. At the time I
only knew him from Star Trek (as Spock's father, Sarek) so I didn't have any
POTA stuff for him to sign.

Loc


In a message dated 6/18/01 6:29:46 PM Central Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:

> In a message dated 6/18/01 2:46:29 PM, Kay53531@... writes:
>
> << MARK LENORD who plays URKO is he even alive ? >>
>
> Mark Lenord (sp?) died about five years ago if I recall.
>
> Matt

.htmlIs the tv show Dr Zaius alive?and what is Ron Harper and James Naughton doing
today?They should be pleased that their short series is coming to dvd in
nov.anyone know what the apes series had as competition on friday night ? and
what the ratings were?Does anyone think their might be a new pota series for
tv if the movie does well?they could make a few changes from the old series,I
call it the Fugitives apes they could make Tommy Lee Jones a Gorilla he would
be great i think,or for the ape sequal in 2003 Bryan<.html

.htmlThe specials on the apes movie on E! and FOX FAM channel and HBO when are
they gonig to air?Seems SCI FI channel would do a special?  Bryan<.html

.html <.html

Hello
Do you know where I can get a REAL copy of the APES TV show?
Not one that has been taped somewhere off television, but an actual
set of storebought VHS or DVD's
thanks so much!

chris sutton

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Attachments :

.html Hi Bry,  it's the other Bri here.

Yes, Mr Booth Colman is alive and well.  I think Jeff said he was at the  Shrine APE show last weekend, and he visited our studio last year (see attached) for an interview and a hand casting session.  Really nice guy.  We used his hands for our Dr. Zaius mannequin, so there's a little bit of both Zaius' in the final work. <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/MANNEQUINS/Orangs.htm>

I've heard talk of a sequel, but no talk of a series as of yet.  Jeff, what've you heard?

Tommy Lee as an ape?  Not bad...

Brian
 
 

Kay53531@... wrote:

Is the tv show Dr Zaius alive?and what is Ron Harper and James Naughton doing
today?They should be pleased that their short series is coming to dvd in
nov.anyone know what the apes series had as competition on friday night ? and
what the ratings were?Does anyone think their might be a new pota series for
tv if the movie does well?they could make a few changes from the old series,I
call it the Fugitives apes they could make Tommy Lee Jones a Gorilla he would
be great i think,or for the ape sequal in 2003 Bryan
 

<.html

> Hello
> Do you know where I can get a REAL copy of the APES TV show?
> chris sutton

Try Michael in Oz, you'll have to transfer them to NTSC though.

Daniel

> Mez wrote...
> I think one of the reasons it did so much better ratings-wise in

the UK is because the Brits gave it a Sunday night timeslot.

Very true Mez, it was aired at about 6pm on Sunday evenings and
although only 6 years old I remember it was about the only time all
week the family got together to watch the same show (even my parents
loved it !!).

It was all we talked about the next day at school so it must have
been going down well with the UK public at least (oh what fine taste
we have !). I read somewhere that the original Star Trek was close to
being cancelled before fan power managed to convince some exec' that
it was worth gambling for one more season, (which was when it then
took off). Why oh why at 6 years old wasn't I on a plane travelling
across the pond to the Fox tv studios in L.A., armed with my placard,
loud hailer and in my Go Ape t-shirt ready to protest at the
cancellation !!

Daniel

Daniel

.htmlHi chris, your in luck 20th century fox is releasing them on dvd all 14
episodes 5 dvd 14 one hour shows! this nov 20th thanks to everyones letters
and phone calls.Currently they are in release in australia.Two Box sets of
three vhs tapes.They do not play in american vcrs.they look the same but on a
diffrent signal.they have to be transferred to Ntsc US format.You must call a
video duplicating service that will do PAL format.They are PAL tapes.I bought
mine from a member of the pota group and he has helped other fans get the
series.Michael Whitty may help you if you can not wait for dvds.Do you live
in america?MY tapes are being transferred as we speak kindp of expensive
though,almost 100.00 to do it.IT cost 70.00 for each box set plus 30.00 to
ship from australia to the states.The other 5 movies come out in aug 21 on
dvds in a set only.The series only in a set.do you have the series now? BRYAN<.html

.htmlThank you Brian for that ,the zaius photos were great.How old is Booth colman
now?And Ron Harper.RON HARPER should guest star in the apes sequal,it would
be nice to give him something in it dont you think?BRYAN<.html

Found this in my Film & TV quotes e-mails... We're on a roll now...

******** A N S W E R S ********

Film Quote 1: "I'm a seeker too. But my dreams aren't like
yours. I can't help thinking that somewhere in the universe
there has to be something better than man. Has to be."
- George Taylor (Charlton Heston), PLANET OF THE APES

.htmlIn a message dated 6/19/01 2:55:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
daniel225nma@... writes:

 

 Why oh why at 6 years old wasn't I on a plane travelling
across the pond to the Fox tv studios in L.A., armed with my placard,
loud hailer and in my Go Ape t-shirt ready to protest at the
cancellation !!

Daniel

You only would have had to go as far as New York City.  It was the CBS TV
Network that cancelled the POTA TV show -- and they wouldn't have listened to
you.  American TV networks are heartless bastards.

I remember writing a letter to CBS begging them not to cancel the show.  I
glued a picture of Dr. Zauis to it and drew tears coming out his eyes.

What a nut I was!

-- Rory<.html

> I remember writing a letter to CBS begging them not to cancel the

show. I

> glued a picture of Dr. Zauis to it and drew tears coming out his

eyes.

>
> What a nut I was!
>
> -- Rory

If only those guys at CBS knew the emotional trauma they were putting
us kids through, they're lucky we haven't all grown up into mad
serial killers or Lawyers !!

Daniel

.html I think he's like 189 or something.  Naw, just kidding.  He's  78.  His birthday is March 8th, 1923

Yes, I think all former stars of anything should have cameos in remakes.  Me?  I can't wait to see what they do with Margo Kidder in the new Superman movie.  I've always likened watching her to that sensation one gets when mixing Goldslagger, Jaggermeister, Saki, Wasabi, Pizza, and deep fried ice cream while ridding the Tea-Cups at Disneyland.

Brian

Kay53531@... wrote:

Thank you Brian for that ,the zaius photos were great.How old is Booth colman
now?And Ron Harper.RON HARPER should guest star in the apes sequal,it would
be nice to give him something in it dont you think?BRYAN

<.html

In a message dated 6/19/01 7:37:11 AM, Haristas@... writes:

<< What a nut I was! >>

Was?????


Matt

Seems Mr. X has posted a follow up review:

http://www.filmjerk.com/010618.html"

They don't call him Filmjerk for nothing . . .

.html ooh, I think I'll move a bit further away Bri, that mix sounds AWFUL.

From: Brian <afryt4u@...>
Organization: Make-up & Monsters Studios
Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:39:16 -0700
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Dr Zaius alive?

I can't wait to see what they do with Margo Kidder in the new Superman movie.  I've always likened watching her to that sensation one gets when mixing Goldslagger, Jaggermeister, Saki, Wasabi, Pizza, and deep fried ice cream while riding the Tea-Cups at Disneyland.

<.html

Yellow every body!
My name is Crystal Roses and I guess like every one else here I'm an
ape finatic .Can't wait for the new film.Probaly gonna end up liking
Thade and Attar . I always like the bad guys.I still like Zaius.

.html My point exactly.

B

Mark Gould wrote:

ooh, I think I'll move a bit further away Bri, that mix sounds AWFUL.

 
From: Brian <afryt4u@...>
Organization: Make-up & Monsters Studios
Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:39:16 -0700
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Dr Zaius alive?

I can't wait to see what they do with Margo Kidder in the new Superman movie.  I've always likened watching her to that sensation one gets when mixing Goldslagger, Jaggermeister, Saki, Wasabi, Pizza, and deep fried ice cream while riding the Tea-Cups at Disneyland.

<.html

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.htmlDear Crystal glad your a fan and welcom! Did you here about the pota tv show
coming to dvd in nov the 20th all 14 one hour shows! Its about time! And
august 21st is all the first five films coming to dvd from fox.Thought i
would update for you.Bryan<.html

> Is the tv show Dr Zaius alive?
> and what is Ron Harper and James Naughton doing
> today?

As Brian said, Booth Colman is still alive. Ron Harper was said to have
appeared in Pearl Harbour, but recent discussions on this list have not
thrown much light on that one!

As for James Naughton, he recently appeared in Ally McBeal if I recall
correctly.

Alan

> As for James Naughton, he recently appeared in Ally McBeal if I
> recall correctly.
>
> Alan

Yep, he plays Ally's dad. Even more recently he's appeared in two
episodes of a new show called 'Big Apple', which hasn't hit these
shores yet. Anyone know anything about it?

He also does a lot on Broadway and has won two Tonys. Who knew Pete
Burke could sing? /Mez

That is so great to know . Thankes for telling me .I orderd a copey
of the series from ebay.But DVD's are probely taking over tapes
really soon . So better to get thouges any ways .

--- In pota@y..., Kay53531@a... wrote:
> Dear Crystal glad your a fan and welcom! Did you here about the
pota tv show
> coming to dvd in nov the 20th all 14 one hour shows! Its about
time! And
> august 21st is all the first five films coming to dvd from
fox.Thought i
> would update for you.Bryan

Some of you may recall I said a while back that I'd seen an interview with
Ron Harper a few years back and said I'd dig it out. I bet you all thought
I'd forgotten, eh?

Well, that's because I had. But never fear, I remembered about it again, so
here it is.

The interview is from TV Zone Special #17 ("Lost Voyagers Special"), June
1995 (interview conducted by Marc Shapiro). Last I saw, you can still order
this issue from the publisher, Visual Imagination for £3.99 (UK) or $7.99
(US) plus postage. For details, pick up a copy of TV Zone and check out
their back issue pages. (They have a website at www.visimag.com, so you
might be able to order from there - I don't know, I haven't looked)

Apologies for any typos - I'm still getting used to a new piece of OCR
software. Well you didn't think I'd sit and type it myself did you?

Enjoy!

-----

TWO YEARS after the demise of the first run episodes of the Planet of the
Apes television series, a series of two-hour movies entitled The New Planet
of the Apes (actually paste-ups of the aforementioned show's 16 one-hour
episodes) began airing on television sets worldwide. That did not surprise
actor Ron Harper who played astronaut Alan Virdon in the short lived series.
What is surprising to Harper, 20 years to the day the first instalment of
Apes aired, was how well those movies did.

"Those movies were getting ratings that surpassed those of the individual
episodes," chuckles Harper at the wonder of it all. "Why? I don't have the
slightest idea. Maybe the two shows cut together offered a bit more variety.
All I know is that the response to those movies [which have appeared with
surprising regularity along with syndicated runs of the series] has been
amazing."


Good Sounds


Harper, a personable actor currently plying his trade on the Hollywood
voiceover circuit, came to the attention of Planet of the Apes producers
Herbert Hirschman and Stan Hough in the Spring of 1974. Acting opposite
intelligent simians was the last thing on Harper's mind.

'I was making plans to marry my first wife," chuckles the actor who also
starred in another populist favourite, Garrison's Gorillas. "We had a June 1
date set and I got a call to fly out to Los Angeles and test for Planet of
the Apes on May 31- I went out, tested for the show, flew back to New York,
got married and my wife and I went to Spain for our honeymoon. We had not
been in Spain very long when I got a call from my agent, telling me they
wanted me to come back to Los Angeles and test with other people. I told
them I was on my honeymoon and that I had other things on my mind at the
moment besides stepping in front of the camera. But they wanted me back so
bad that they were willing to pay to fly my wife and I back to LA. They
insisted that it was important so we flew back and I tested again. I went
back to New York, my agent called and said, 'Pack your bags. We're starting
to shoot right away'."

What Harper was returning to was a version of the highly successful Planet
of the Apes film series. American astronauts Alan Virdon (Harper) and Pete
Burke (James Naughton) stumble into a Time warp and stumble out on Earth
2000 years into the future where they find English-speaking, super
intelligent apes lording it over the last remnants of the human race who
have become slaves. Making the transition from the films to television was
Roddy McDowall as the astronaut's ape friend Galen. Harper was familiar with
the Apes films and is candid in his assessment of their quality or lack of.
"The first film was very interesting. The idea of reversing the roles of
apes and humans was a novel one. But beyond that first film, I think they
ran out of steam as to what to do with this crazy premise. I thought the
series went downhill real fast.

"But the series, based on the fact that the five films made $100s of
millions worldwide, was a direct sale to the network [CBS]. We didn't even
have to shoot a pilot."


Character Decisions


James Naughton was subsequently cast in the role of Pete Burke and the pair
of human actors reported to production meetings in late June of '74 in
preparation for the July 1 beginning of production. "The big thing during
our first production meeting was trying to decide what the first names of
the astronauts should be. I thought that was kind of funny."

Another bone of contention, reports Harper, was the nature of his character
and how he should be played.

"To a certain extent they modelled my character after CharIton Heston's
character in the first Planet of the Apes film," he recalls. "The intent was
to make Virdon a little bit more human. They gave me a history, a wife and
child that were referred to in one or two of the episodes. They tried to
fill me out and make me more of a well-rounded human being. We were a little
at odds at how I should play Virdon. The producers wanted me to play him
very strong and macho. I thought I was a pretty good actor and so I had it
in mind to play him, in some scenes, more humanly, sensitive and sometimes
soft. But, as we developed the fine points of the series, the producers told
me to forget all that and to just use my deep chest voice," he laughs.

The first episode of Planet of the Apes aired on September 13, 1974. Harper
recalls "going in with the idea that it was going to be an action adventure
series".

"But it became more obvious that was the case as the season progressed. The
scripts were emphasizing action and interaction with the apes rather than
deep storylines. The producers would get awfully upset if we didn't have
some kind of action going in the first five pages of a script."

What also came to Harper's attention from the word go was that the Planet of
the Apes television series was essentially one trick pony.


One Idea Show


"It was a one idea show," sighs the actor. "And once we got past that one
idea, the actors and, more importantly, the audience had seen it all. Our
story was one of us would get captured by the apes and the other two would
have to rescue him. It got to the point where Jim and I would pick up a
script each week and the first words out of our mouth would be 'whose turn
is it to be rescued this week...?'"

Churning out an Apes episode under seemingly formula limitations was,
nevertheless, a lot of hard work and, says Harper, worthy of a few
well-placed anecdotes.

"This was a very difficult show to make," he reflects. "We were given seven
days to do an episode but, I swear, some weeks it felt like we were knocking
them out in five days or less. The human beings in this show never rode
horses and so we were always running and always being chased by the apes.
Some directors, particularly if a script was a little thin, would say,
'Okay, go out there about 2-300 yards and run into the camera'.

"We had an episode [Tomorrow's Tide] where Jim and I had to be filmed
underwater being menaced by a shark. We had to go down 35 feet into the
ocean, with lead weights tied to our rags, wearing a mask and a breathing
device. They brought in the cameras and a mechanical shark. At the
director's signal we had to take off the mask and swim around and try to
act. They figured they would save air by starting us at the bottom rather
than having us free dive into the water first. But it was real cold and,
after a couple of hours, they basically had to haul us out because we were
close to getting hypothermia," moans the actor.


Notables


The actor concedes that much of his Planet of the Apes journey "is a blur"
but recalls a couple of episodes where he felt he shined.

"The Horse Race was a wonderful satire and, by comparison to other episodes,
it had some bulk to it. Humans were not able to ride horses but Virdon could
and so the apes were trying all sorts of tricks to keep him from winning the
race. But of course none of it worked. I also liked The Legacy because I got
to be more diverse in my acting style. I was able to show some of my
humanity. That was a welcome break from the usual requirements of the
scripts we got."

Harper recalls "admiring the stamina of the actors playing the apes".

"The make-up and costumes were really hot. Jim and I were running around in
next to nothing and we were uncomfortable so you can only imagine what Roddy
and Mark were going through. But Roddy had been through this ape stuff
before so it didn't really surprise him."


Co-Star


The actor, in a surprising bit of candour, reports that he and his human
co-star "did not become very close during the making of the show".

"I think a big part of that was the result of us not being together very
long. We respected each other as actors but, away from the set, he was a
little cool. Jim's part was originally intended to be funnier than what he
turned it into. The producers conceived of the role of Pete as a comedic
foil for my character since they didn't really need two heroes in the show.
But I don't think Jim was interested in playing the comic guy which had to
make his stay on the show a little uncomfortable."

Planet of the Apes's early ratings were what Harper describes as
"respectable". But four episodes into the first run, it became evident that
audiences were getting tired of the routine and leaving in droves.

"The reason that happened is that we kept doing the same story over and over
again," the actor laments. "You need a lot of imagination to keep Science
Fiction going and our writers only seemed to be able to come up with the
same storyline over and over again.

"After a while there was a real sense on the set that this show was not long
for this world. There was shock and despair and I think that came with much
reluctance because everybody had such high hopes for the series. The feeling
on the set was 'What happened here? This was supposed to have been an
automatic three-year run.'

The last first run episode of Planet of the Apes aired on December 27, 1974.
But that was not the end of the apes. "After the original run somebody came
up with the idea of putting two episodes together into a series of movies
and calling them 'The New Planet of the Apes'. The films have aired pretty
regularly over the years and the ratings have continued to be quite good."

Years before Ron Harper went Apes, he was at the head of another favourite,
the WWII Dirty Dozen clone Garrison's Gorillas, which was yet another one
season wonder (Sept 5, 1967 to Sept 17, 1968). Harper, who played Lieutenant
Craig Garrison in the series, claims that show had a different problem

"The scripts were quite good and the ratings were very good," reports the
actor. "The reason the show was cancelled was because it was perceived as
being too violent. There were a group of senators in the US Congress who
were raising a stink. We were surprised when they took us off. Unfortunately
there was this pocketful of people who said the show was too violent and
that it had to go."

Harper, concluding his Apes odyssey, is surprised that 1994 was, in fact,
the 20th Anniversary of the premiere of the series. He looks back at the
show with a sense of whimsy and melancholy.

"It was a good idea that, unfortunately, was not properly executed. If we
had imaginative writers, we could have stretched out the stories we had and
really created something interesting. I'm not saying they weren't talented.
I'm just saying that they didn't have what it took to make the series work.
Everyone always seems to blame the failure of a series on the writers. I
know they weren't blaming me.

"At least I don't think so."

If anyone wants to order a copy of the magazine I just pasted the article
from (the actual article, with pictures, is 4 pages), it is available to
order online.

US:
http://www.visimag.com/acatalog/VI_DIRECT_Catalog_TV_Zone_Specials_10___19_1
06.htmlbr>
UK & Rest of World:
http://www.visimag.com/uk/acatalog/VI_Direct_Catalogue_TV_Zone_Specials_10__
_19_83.htmlbr>
Alan

<< Thanks Jeff.
I'll see if I could find it at my local news stand, perhaps under hobbies
rather than entertainment. Maybe that's why I've never seen the magazine. >>

I just gave them a call. For those who'd like their number, it's 818-504-6770

Or try your local Barns & Nobel or Borders, Books & Music...
This issue should boost subscriptions.

Welcome CrystalRose!

And don't hit on her Rory.

.htmlhi Crystal, yes dvd is taking over.the tv series will not be on video,and
they will probably be limited edition five dvd set, and dvd players are cheap
now then they were Bryan<.html

I'm looking for a set of the 4 POTA tv show books and the 3 Return cartoon
show novels. I have some POTA comics I could trade if you are interested. Let
me know!

Loc

P.S. Great chat tonight guys! Look forward to doing it again!

Welcome indeed.

Give us a run down on yourself - where are you from, age etc if you don't
mind.

Michael (from Australia)

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 7:43
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Newbie



Welcome CrystalRose!

And don't hit on her Rory.

I'm 19 and curently living in Lake Mary,Florida.

--- In pota@y..., "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Welcome indeed.
>
> Give us a run down on yourself - where are you from, age etc if you
don't
> mind.
>
> Michael (from Australia)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LordTZer0@A... [LordTZer0@A...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 7:43
> To: pota@y...
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Newbie
>
>
>
> Welcome CrystalRose!
>
> And don't hit on her Rory.
>
>
>
>

The origonal book was just relested.You can probaly get that at any
book stor now.Not sure about the others .But you can all ways try
ebay.Typically some one is selling them.

--- In pota@y..., locutusatwolf359@a... wrote:
> I'm looking for a set of the 4 POTA tv show books and the 3 Return
cartoon
> show novels. I have some POTA comics I could trade if you are
interested. Let
> me know!
>
> Loc
>
> P.S. Great chat tonight guys! Look forward to doing it again!

I saw the new Hasbro figures this morning at my local Walmart (Detroit area).
They only had 2 Attars and 1 Leo. I was going to pick them up, but they rung
up at $9.82 apiece. I figured I could find them somewhere cheaper later.

They looked pretty good though. Better than I thought considering Hasbro's
track record.

Matt

--- In pota@y..., MTotsky@a... wrote:

> I saw the new Hasbro figures this morning at my local Walmart

(Detroit area).

> They only had 2 Attars and 1 Leo. I was going to pick them up, but

they rung

> up at $9.82 apiece. I figured I could find them somewhere cheaper

later.

>
> They looked pretty good though. Better than I thought considering

Hasbro's

> track record.
>
> Matt

Do you know were they might have pictuers of them at ?

.html Ahh youth!   I think it's great that POTA intrigues people of all ages!!!
APE POWER!

Brian

CrystalRoses16@... wrote:

 I'm  19 and curently living in Lake Mary,Florida.

--- In pota@y..., "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Welcome indeed.
>
> Give us a run down on yourself - where are you from, age etc if you
don't
> mind.
>
> Michael (from Australia)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LordTZer0@A... [mailto:LordTZer0@A...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 7:43
> To:   pota@y...
> Subject:      Re: [pota] Re: Newbie
>
>
>
>  Welcome CrystalRose!
>
> And don't hit on her Rory.
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to

 
 

<.html

Interesting site by someone with a little too much spare time....
<http://www.zaius.com/>

In a message dated 6/20/01 10:13:57 AM, CrystalRoses16@... writes:

<< Do you know were they might have pictuers of them at ? >>

There were some auctions with pics on eBay. Also, the latest issue of
Tomart's Action Figure Digest (pictures of Harry Potter figures on the cover)
has pics of the loose figures.

Matt

Yah,my dad got me adicted to POTA.

--- In pota@y..., Brian <apeman@a...> wrote:
> Ahh youth! I think it's great that POTA intrigues people of all
ages!!!
> APE POWER!
>
> Brian
>
> CrystalRoses16@a... wrote:
>
> > I'm 19 and curently living in Lake Mary,Florida.
> >
> > --- In pota@y..., "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> > > Welcome indeed.
> > >
> > > Give us a run down on yourself - where are you from, age etc if
you
> > don't
> > > mind.
> > >
> > > Michael (from Australia)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: LordTZer0@A... [LordTZer0@A...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 7:43
> > > To: pota@y...
> > > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Newbie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Welcome CrystalRose!
> > >
> > > And don't hit on her Rory.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Has any one read the origonal Planet of the Apes book? I read it two
years ago for a book report.Found it at the school libary,and I
purchased it the first week it had just been relested . Can I
say "What did they do?" Some people seem to think the Burtons' new
film is really far feched . They ovibuslly have not read thebook!

All series are great.I'm not complaning about that.I'm just amazed
by how diffrent the book is .Heck , they could make an auctely re-
make of the 1st POTA film and make it like the book.Like they wold do
that .

My favoriet POTA movie so far is film number three . Despite the
ending.It was hart warming and funny.Loved it how Zira creamed
Cornilus during the trial.

.html Yeay for DAD!

B

CrystalRoses16@... wrote:

  Yah,my dad got me adicted to POTA.

--- In pota@y..., Brian <apeman@a...> wrote:
> Ahh youth!   I think it's great that POTA intrigues people of all
ages!!!
> APE POWER!
>
> Brian
>
> CrystalRoses16@a... wrote:
>
> >  I'm  19 and curently living in Lake Mary,Florida.
> >
> > --- In pota@y..., "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> > > Welcome indeed.
> > >
> > > Give us a run down on yourself - where are you from, age etc if
you
> > don't
> > > mind.
> > >
> > > Michael (from Australia)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: LordTZer0@A... [mailto:LordTZer0@A...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 7:43
> > > To:   pota@y...
> > > Subject:      Re: [pota] Re: Newbie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Welcome CrystalRose!
> > >
> > > And don't hit on her Rory.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to

 
 

<.html

.htmlI just picked up all the new figures at the Walmart here in Philadelphia. The
Attar soldier ape is done really well. As a collector of old "Ape"
merchandise, This could get expensive, with all the new products coming out.  
Rob<.html

Okay I'm the one who's gonna say it . " There back,there back!"
POTA is gonna stay for a long whiel. Hopheyly people will pick up on
POTA fanfiction . * I am .*


RULE THE PLANET

.html <.html

.htmlClick here: George W. Bush or Chimpanzee? <.html

.htmlWho is the young son Dalton in the gladiators episode 2 apes tv show his face
is so familiar its not Lorenzo Lamaz?whats his real name and what other tv
credits does he have ?Driving me crazy Bryan<.html

--- In pota@y..., CrystalRoses16@a... wrote:

> I'm 19 and curently living in Lake Mary,Florida.

(Gee, are you Florida fans trying to take over here or what?)

Hi Crystal! Neat that your Dad introduced you to PotA. What's your
favourite film, etc?

/Mez -- female, American, and doin' time in England

.htmlRob has the new talking ATTAR out yet its 13 inches tall i heard 25.00 Bryan<.html

--- In pota@y..., Kay53531@a... wrote:

> Rob has the new talking ATTAR out yet its 13 inches tall i heard

25.00 Bryan



There is a talking ATTAR ?

--- In pota@y..., "Mez Downes" <mdownes@n...> wrote:

> --- In pota@y..., CrystalRoses16@a... wrote:
> > I'm 19 and curently living in Lake Mary,Florida.
>
> (Gee, are you Florida fans trying to take over here or what?)
>
> Hi Crystal! Neat that your Dad introduced you to PotA. What's your
> favourite film, etc?
>
> /Mez -- female, American, and doin' time in England

England cool .


My favoriet film is the third one . I love the trial scean were the
President asks " Can he talk?" and Cornelious says " Only when she
lets me ."

.html I just picked up all the new figures at the Walmart here in Philadelphia. The
Attar soldier ape is done really well. As a collector of old "Ape"
merchandise, This could get expensive, with all the new products coming out.  
Rob

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .
<.html

--- In pota@y..., CrystalRoses16@a... wrote:

> My favoriet film is the third one . I love the trial scean were
> the President asks " Can he talk?" and Cornelious says " Only when
> she lets me ."

Great choice on both counts. That piece of dialogue plays whenever I
max a window. Do you have any PotA sounds installed on your computer?

And forgive me if this has been asked here before, but does anyone
else care to share what favorite dialogue clips your computer
assaults you with? /Mez

> Who is the young son Dalton in the gladiators episode 2 apes tv
> show his face is so familiar its not Lorenzo Lamaz?whats his real
> name and what other tv credits does he have ?Driving me crazy Bryan

It's Marc Singer, Bryan, you probably recognize him from 'V'. I've
got a bit of trivia like this from the series up on my homepage,
check it out:

http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~pdownes/potatv/potatv_triv.html"

/Mez

In a message dated 6/20/01 5:02:27 PM Central Daylight Time,
mdownes@... writes:

<< Great choice on both counts. That piece of dialogue plays whenever I
max a window. Do you have any PotA sounds installed on your computer >>

Of course! As the resident Kim Hunter fan . . .All Zira Wav.s

Welcome = Hello Bright Eyes!

You've Got Mail = Bright Eyes, I've got a present for you.

Goodbye = "Doctor, I'd like to kiss you goodbye." "Alright!"

In a message dated 6/20/01 10:57:40 AM Central Daylight Time,
apeman@... writes:

<< I'm 19 and curently living in Lake Mary,Florida. >>

A lot of POTA fans seem to live in Florida.
What? Are you founding your own colony down there?

--- In pota@y..., "Mez Downes" <mdownes@n...> wrote:

> --- In pota@y..., CrystalRoses16@a... wrote:
> > My favoriet film is the third one . I love the trial scean were
> > the President asks " Can he talk?" and Cornelious says " Only when
> > she lets me ."
>
> Great choice on both counts. That piece of dialogue plays whenever

I

> max a window. Do you have any PotA sounds installed on your

computer?

>
> And forgive me if this has been asked here before, but does anyone
> else care to share what favorite dialogue clips your computer
> assaults you with? /Mez

Sorry I don't know how to do that .I just lerned how to capture
pictuers with my DVD,and that is all that I can do with this
technology for special stuff .^^

--- In pota@y..., LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> In a message dated 6/20/01 10:57:40 AM Central Daylight Time,
> apeman@a... writes:
>
> << I'm 19 and curently living in Lake Mary,Florida. >>
>
> A lot of POTA fans seem to live in Florida.
> What? Are you founding your own colony down there?

Tehehe.Mabey. I just need a few Chimps ,and then I'm done .

--- In pota@y..., LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> In a message dated 6/20/01 5:02:27 PM Central Daylight Time,
> mdownes@n... writes:
>
> << Great choice on both counts. That piece of dialogue plays

whenever I

> max a window. Do you have any PotA sounds installed on your

computer >>

>
> Of course! As the resident Kim Hunter fan . . .All Zira Wav.s
>
> Welcome = Hello Bright Eyes!
>
> You've Got Mail = Bright Eyes, I've got a present for you.
>
> Goodbye = "Doctor, I'd like to kiss you goodbye." "Alright!"

You have that wave ? ( Pout ) Wish I did .

.htmlIn a message dated 6/20/01 5:21:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Kay53531@...
writes:

Who is the young son Dalton in the gladiators episode 2 apes tv show his
face
is so familiar its not Lorenzo Lamaz?whats his real name and what other tv
credits does he have ?Driving me crazy Bryan

Bryan,

Marc Singer played Dalton in the episode "The Galdiators."

Some of his other credits include the film "The Beastmaster" (1982) and the
TV mini-series "V" (1983)

-- Rory

P.S.
I've heard some bad news about the POTA TV series on DVD.  More to follow.<.html

.html
  Does any one know if Tim Burton is planing to relese an adiptation novel
for the new film??







The earth and ocean seem
To sleep in one another's arms, and dream
Of waves,flowers,clouds,woods, rooks,and all that we
Read in their smiles, and call reality.

 -   Percy Bysshe Shelley,Epipsychidion,1821


    http://www.upstate.edu/ent/velo..html/font>

      http://www.bartleby.com/139/shel1160.html <.html

.htmlThe figures that are out are..Attar,Limbo,Ari,Daena,Leo Davidson...I went
online to www.Entertainmentearth.com, The talking Attar is not going to
released until August, And Thade on a horse is being released on July 1st.
Also the 1st issue comic book is out. It's called "The human war".....It's
pretty cool!    Rob<.html

.html Yes, I believe so. There will also be a 'coffee table' Making Of book. Run a search on Amazon. There's a few books to be released.
Best,
KEN

CrystalRoses16@... wrote:

 
  Does any one know if Tim Burton is planing to relese an adiptation novel
for the new film??
 
 
 
 
 
 

The earth and ocean seem
To sleep in one another's arms, and dream
Of waves,flowers,clouds,woods, rooks,and all that we
Read in their smiles, and call reality.

 -   Percy Bysshe Shelley,Epipsychidion,1821
 

    http://www.upstate.edu/ent/velo..html"

      http://www.bartleby.com/139/shel1160.html"

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

<.html

Thankes for the info .

--- In pota@y..., Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@w...> wrote:
> Yes, I believe so. There will also be a 'coffee table' Making Of
book.
> Run a search on Amazon. There's a few books to be released.
> Best,
> KEN
>
> CrystalRoses16@a... wrote:
>
> >
> > Does any one know if Tim Burton is planing to relese an
adiptation
> > novel
> > for the new film??
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The earth and ocean seem
> > To sleep in one another's arms, and dream
> > Of waves,flowers,clouds,woods, rooks,and all that we
> > Read in their smiles, and call reality.
> >
> > - Percy Bysshe Shelley,Epipsychidion,1821
> >
> >
> > http://www.upstate.edu/ent/velo..html"
> >
> > http://www.bartleby.com/139/shel1160.html"
> >
> [www.newaydirect.com]
>
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.

In a message dated 6/20/01 3:48:50 PM, LordTZer0@... writes:

>Of course! As the resident Kim Hunter fan . . .

Ummm LordTZer, that would be A resident, not THE resident... ;)

Chad

.htmlIn a message dated 6/20/01 2:37:32 AM Central Daylight Time,
locutusatwolf359@... writes:

P.S. Great chat tonight guys! Look forward to doing it again

Glad you liked it Loc.I'll shoot for next Monday to do it again,same time &
catagory.But if any of you guys want to set one up before then by all means
do so....

I'll look in the chats from time to time before Monday just to see if
anything APE is going on in there.

<.html

.htmlYes there is i ordered one from a comic shop, they range from 25.00 to 29.00
look out for it! And the planet apes tv series in nov 20th on dvd all 14 hour
shows never released in america before! Bryan<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 6/20/01 7:47:00 AM Central Daylight Time,
CrystalRoses16@... writes:

 The origonal book was just relested.You can probaly get that at any
book stor now.Not sure about the others .But you can all ways try
ebay.Typically some one is selling them.

Yup,it is available here at Barnes and Noble.I'm sure it'd at B&N nationwide
by now.

<.html

.htmlthank you Mez any other shows? Was he on a daytime soap opera? Looks like
kevin Bacon but not,Bryan<.html

> thank you Mez any other shows? Was he on a daytime soap opera?
> Looks like Kevin Bacon but not,Bryan

Yeah, he does look like Kevin Bacon. Let's see, he was in "Young and
the Restless" in '99....Take a look at his filmography at the IMDb
(link below), maybe you'll recognize something you've seen him in?

http://us.imdb.com/Name?Singer,+Marc

/Mez

> -- Rory
>
> P.S.
> I've heard some bad news about the POTA TV series on DVD. More to
> follow.

Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Dammit, I'm gonna start using the language I learned in the military
if Fox lets us down on this!!! Please keep us informed, Rory.
Thanks. /Mez

.htmlIn a message dated 6/20/01 4:21:40 PM Central Daylight Time, Kay53531@...
writes:

Who is the young son Dalton in the gladiators episode 2 apes tv show his
face
is so familiar its not Lorenzo Lamaz?whats his real name and what other tv
credits does he have ?Driving me crazy Bryan

Thats Marc Singer and he was in a series of "gladiator" type movies too,but I
can't think of what they were called.....<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 6/20/01 12:31:16 PM Central Daylight Time,
CrystalRoses16@... writes:

Has any one read the origonal Planet of the Apes book? I read it two
years ago for a book report.Found it at the school libary,and I
purchased it the first week it had just been relested . Can I
say "What did they do?"  Some people seem to think the Burtons' new
film is really far feched . They ovibuslly have not read thebook!

Well I read the original book too.While it is not a bad read,the movie is
far superior to the book on which its premise was based.As to your comment
of how different it (the movie) is than the book,well when they were first
planning the movie,they WERE going to set it in the high tech Ape world of
the book.They eliminated that idea to cut costs.(I myself am very glad they
did so.I  really like the idea that they shun too high of technology
because it ruined the human world,so they avoided it so it wouldn't destroy
their's as well.)I just said it,but I'll say it again,I'm glad they did the
movie the way they did.The book was a good "premise",but I'm very glad the
movie is how it is.....And yes,as I said,I read the book...If you are
implying that "I" think Burton's film is way far fetched,you're right,I
do.His thing is as far from being Planet of the Apes,as the movie is from
being like the book.

All series are great.I'm not complaning about that.I'm just amazed
by how diffrent the book is .Heck , they could make an auctely re-
make of the 1st POTA film and make it like the book.Like they wold do
that .

Well they should have done this,film the book's story.While I still wouldn't
be too thrilled about them trying to revamp APES,I wouldn't be complaining if
they would have done Boulle's book in movie form.That would have been ok to
see that played out.And you're right on one thing,they probably never would
do the book as a movie,its too much of a "thinking" novel.I don't think the
kids that they are trying to market Burton's film to have the attention span
to "get" the book.All they want is MTV style flash,and some sfx,and Fox is
giving it to them.Which is too bad really.....

 My favoriet POTA movie so far is film number three . Despite the
ending.It was hart warming and funny.Loved it how Zira creamed
Cornilus during the trial.

And for me,PLANET is "the" best.<.html

.htmlRory,did you speak to Jane at FOX ?I spoke to her on monday and she told me
things were fine for nov release,she was going to check if they were putting
any extras on them.Bryan<.html

--- In pota@y..., mlccougar@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 6/20/01 12:31:16 PM Central Daylight Time,
> CrystalRoses16@a... writes:
>
>
> > Has any one read the origonal Planet of the Apes book? I read it

two

> > years ago for a book report.Found it at the school libary,and I
> > purchased it the first week it had just been relested . Can I
> > say "What did they do?" Some people seem to think the Burtons'

new

> >
>
> > Well I read the original book too.While it is not a bad read,the

movie is

> > far superior to the book on which its premise was based.As to

your comment

> > of how different it (the movie) is than the book,well when they

were first

> > planning the movie,they WERE going to set it in the high tech Ape

world of

> > the book.They eliminated that idea to cut costs.(I myself am very

glad they

> > did so.I really like the idea that they shun too high of

technology

> > because it ruined the human world,so they avoided it so it

wouldn't destroy

> > their's as well.)I just said it,but I'll say it again,I'm glad

they did the

> > movie the way they did.The book was a good "premise",but I'm very

glad the

> > movie is how it is.....And yes,as I said,I read the book...If you

are

> > implying that "I" think Burton's film is way far fetched,you're

right,I

> > do.His thing is as far from being Planet of the Apes,as the movie

is from

> >
>
> > All series are great.I'm not complaning about that.I'm just

amazed

> > by how diffrent the book is .Heck , they could make an auctely re-
> > make of the 1st POTA film and make it like the book.Like they

wold do

> > that .
> >
> Well they should have done this,film the book's story.While I still

wouldn't

> be too thrilled about them trying to revamp APES,I wouldn't be

complaining if

> they would have done Boulle's book in movie form.That would have

been ok to

> see that played out.And you're right on one thing,they probably

never would

> do the book as a movie,its too much of a "thinking" novel.I don't

think the

> kids that they are trying to market Burton's film to have the

attention span

> to "get" the book.All they want is MTV style flash,and some sfx,and

Fox is

> giving it to them.Which is too bad really.....
> >
> > My favoriet POTA movie so far is film number three . Despite

the

> > ending.It was hart warming and funny.Loved it how Zira creamed
> >
>
> And for me,PLANET is "the" best.

I like the idea that Burton is showing for the new movie.I hope it
is even more darker then the origonal movies and book. What a lot of
people don't know is that many books espically comics are more darker
then what they pot out on film.

I'm probaly going to end up loving the new movie .Hophely it will
talk about issues that are important today like they did in the
previouse films.I hope people give the new movie a chance.

Yes the novel for the origonal book was a big thinking book.But
that is what I loved about it.I'm really intersted in human nature
and that kind of stuff .It's kind of like Animal Farm meets
Gluliver's Travel are something.

.htmlIn a message dated 6/20/01 8:50:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mlccougar@... writes:

In a message dated 6/20/01 12:31:16 PM Central Daylight Time,
CrystalRoses16@... writes:

Has any one read the origonal Planet of the Apes book? I read it two
years ago for a book report.Found it at the school libary,and I
purchased it the first week it had just been relested . Can I
say "What did they do?"  Some people seem to think the Burtons' new
film is really far feched . They ovibuslly have not read thebook!

Well I read the original book too.While it is not a bad read,the movie is
far superior to the book on which its premise was based.As to your comment
of how different it (the movie) is than the book,well when they were first
planning the movie,they WERE going to set it in the high tech Ape world of
the book.They eliminated that idea to cut costs.(I myself am very glad
they
did so.I  really like the idea that they shun too high of technology
because it ruined the human world,so they avoided it so it wouldn't
destroy
their's as well.)I just said it,but I'll say it again,I'm glad they did
the
movie the way they did.The book was a good "premise",but I'm very glad the
movie is how it is.....And yes,as I said,I read the book...If you are
implying that "I" think Burton's film is way far fetched,you're right,I
do.His thing is as far from being Planet of the Apes,as the movie is from
being like the book.

By the way, I don't know if I've ever posted this before, but if you want to
know why I use the name "Haristas" go to chapter Twenty-Two in the Boulle
novel,about eleven paragraphs in, I think, and you'll find out who "Haristas"
is.

-- Rory
<.html

.html <.html

Not that I know of which is too bad.

Loc


In a message dated 6/20/01 9:07:43 PM Central Daylight Time,
CrystalRoses16@... writes:

> Does any one know if Tim Burton is planing to relese an adiptation novel
> for the new film??

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 6/20/01 8:50:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> mlccougar@a... writes:
>
>
> > In a message dated 6/20/01 12:31:16 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > CrystalRoses16@a... writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > >> Has any one read the origonal Planet of the Apes book? I read

it two

> >> years ago for a book report.Found it at the school libary,and I
> >> purchased it the first week it had just been relested . Can I
> >> say "What did they do?" Some people seem to think the Burtons'

new

> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > >> Well I read the original book too.While it is not a bad

read,the movie is

> >> far superior to the book on which its premise was based.As to

your comment

> >> of how different it (the movie) is than the book,well when they

were first

> >> planning the movie,they WERE going to set it in the high tech

Ape world of

> >> the book.They eliminated that idea to cut costs.(I myself am

very glad

> >> they
> >> did so.I really like the idea that they shun too high of

technology

> >> because it ruined the human world,so they avoided it so it

wouldn't

> >> destroy
> >> their's as well.)I just said it,but I'll say it again,I'm glad

they did

> >> the
> >> movie the way they did.The book was a good "premise",but I'm

very glad the

> >> movie is how it is.....And yes,as I said,I read the book...If

you are

> >> implying that "I" think Burton's film is way far fetched,you're

right,I

> >> do.His thing is as far from being Planet of the Apes,as the

movie is from

> >>
> >
> >
> >
> By the way, I don't know if I've ever posted this before, but if

you want to

> know why I use the name "Haristas" go to chapter Twenty-Two in the

Boulle

> novel,about eleven paragraphs in, I think, and you'll find out

who "Haristas"

> is.
>
> -- Rory

Consideribal athurity called Haristas who held such belifes and
whose dogmas have been repeated by the orangutangs ever since . -
Pierre Boule

Now I see were you comming from . I take it that you don't like the
orangutangs that much.I on the other hand love the dear things .I
like all the races really . Once the movie is out and I see .I'm
gonna start a web stie for POTA fanfiction . I wan't to write up
about a femal Orangutange named Theodosia who has very diffrent view
points from her race .

Tell me do you think the new movie is too much? I mean too flashy
etc... I like what I've seen . I think people have to relise is that
if they really wan't the new generation to get in to POTA .They got
to do it in a style that they find atractive ,and hopheyly it's not
too much for the generation that grew up loving the characters .But
mabey this is a movie that can get diffrent generationgs to see it
together .

.htmlIn a message dated 6/20/01 9:47:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
CrystalRoses16@... writes:

  I like the idea that Burton is showing for the new movie.I hope it
is even more darker then the origonal movies and book. What a lot of
people don't know is that many books espically comics are more darker
then what they pot out on film.

I'm probaly going to end up loving the new movie .Hophely it will
talk about issues that are important today like they did in the
previouse films.I hope people give the new movie a chance.

 Yes the novel for the origonal book was a big thinking book.But
that is what I loved about it.I'm really intersted in human nature
and that kind of stuff .It's kind of like Animal Farm meets
Gluliver's Travel are something.

Yes, it very much is like "Animal Farm" meets "Gulliver's Travels."  In fact,
I keep both those books alongside Boulle's book on my shelf.

And for anyone who thinks the ending PLANET was really original, here's a
poem from Shelley that's almost two hundred years old. . .

                               OZYMANDIAS

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on those lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains.  Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 6/20/01 10:07:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
CrystalRoses16@... writes:

 

Does any one know if Tim Burton is planing to relese an adiptation novel
for the new film??

Yes, there will be a novelization of the new POTA screenplay.

-- Rory<.html

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 6/20/01 10:07:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> CrystalRoses16@a... writes:
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Does any one know if Tim Burton is planing to relese an

adiptation novel

> > for the new film??
>
> Yes, there will be a novelization of the new POTA screenplay.
>
> -- Rory

Yepie!!

Very cool! There is a novelization coming out in July written by William T.
Quick! It is on Amazon for preorder!

Loc


In a message dated 6/20/01 9:07:43 PM Central Daylight Time,
CrystalRoses16@... writes:

> Does any one know if Tim Burton is planing to relese an adiptation novel
> for the new film??

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 6/20/01 9:47:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> CrystalRoses16@a... writes:
>
> >
> > I like the idea that Burton is showing for the new movie.I

hope it

> > is even more darker then the origonal movies and book. What a lot

of

> > people don't know is that many books espically comics are more

darker

> > then what they pot out on film.
> >
> > I'm probaly going to end up loving the new movie .Hophely it will
> > talk about issues that are important today like they did in the
> > previouse films.I hope people give the new movie a chance.
> >
> > Yes the novel for the origonal book was a big thinking book.But
> > that is what I loved about it.I'm really intersted in human

nature

> > and that kind of stuff .It's kind of like Animal Farm meets
> >
>
> Yes, it very much is like "Animal Farm" meets "Gulliver's

Travels." In fact,

> I keep both those books alongside Boulle's book on my shelf.
>
> And for anyone who thinks the ending PLANET was really original,

here's a

> poem from Shelley that's almost two hundred years old. . .
>
> OZYMANDIAS
>
> I met a traveller from an antique land
> Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
> Stand in the desert. . . Near them, on the sand,
> Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
> And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
> Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
> Which yet survive, stamped on those lifeless things,
> The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed:
> And on the pedestal these words appear:
> 'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
> Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
> Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
> Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
> The lone and level sands stretch far away.
>
> -- Rory

Got to love Shelly.

In a message dated 6/20/01 8:54:51 PM EST, LordTZer0@... writes:
<< I'm 19 and currently living in Lake Mary,Florida. >>

> A lot of POTA fans seem to live in Florida.
> What? Are you founding your own colony down there?

LOL! Yeah, I am forming a commune in Tampa, it's gonna be called: "Dr. Zira's
House of Monkey" ... :)

Chad

--- In pota@y..., locutusatwolf359@a... wrote:

> Very cool! There is a novelization coming out in July written by

William T.

> Quick! It is on Amazon for preorder!
>
> Loc
>
>
> In a message dated 6/20/01 9:07:43 PM Central Daylight Time,
> CrystalRoses16@a... writes:
>
> > Does any one know if Tim Burton is planing to relese an

adiptation novel

> > for the new film??

So that is it ! I couldn't tell . It looked so weird the way they
had it written.

--- In pota@y..., DrZira3978@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 6/20/01 8:54:51 PM EST, LordTZer0@A... writes:
> << I'm 19 and currently living in Lake Mary,Florida. >>
>
> > A lot of POTA fans seem to live in Florida.
> > What? Are you founding your own colony down there?
>
> LOL! Yeah, I am forming a commune in Tampa, it's gonna be

called: "Dr. Zira's

> House of Monkey" ... :)
>
> Chad

This one is named ' The Zaius Musem ' . Perfectly fitting .
Tehehehe!

RULE THE PLANET !

If I were making the book, I would cast Tchéky Karyo As Ulysse Merou. He's
the French Major from The Patriot. I know I was thinking along the lines of
Christopher Lambert, which is better then Gerard Depardieu. But this new guy
is more of a tough guy version of Francois Truffaut and that fits my vision
of Ulysse more than either one of them. I'd start them in French but that
would transition into English kind of like Hunt for the Red October. Except
for the French version of course. That would be a must for the purists. And
Ian Holm as Professor Antelle.
Any suggestions for Zira, Nova and the others?

.htmlIn a message dated 6/20/01 11:47:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

A post directed me to Coming Attractions Message Form.

It seem that a 3rd Trailer will appear in Theatres June 22nd (This Friday)
But yet I see no official word on the Official Web Site as they did before
the 2nd Trailer not too long ago.

Any word on a third trailer this friday?

Best,
Alex



Alex, do you think we should go see "Dr. Dolittle 2" this weekend?

Might be something interesting on just before it.  Think?

-- Rory<.html

In a message dated 6/20/01 9:19:29 PM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:

<< OZYMANDIAS >>

Wow!
I haven't read Ozymandias since high school!
Thanks!

Ok, I have a view on this. I'm also a Star Wars fan even though I hate the
last two films, all the novels, and most of the comic books, but I still have
hope for the next two movies. I chat in Star Wars chat on AOL all the time
(since there is no sci-fi or Apes chat unless this group makes it) and all it
is is a bunch of kids most of the time that don't truly appreciate the
original and all they do is role play. They like Star Wars after seeing
Episode 1 and reading those terrible novels and that's it. It's really
depressing. I'm afraid that when the new POTA film comes out then Generation
X will only like it for that movie. If they wanted to get this generation to
enjoy Apes they should have re-released the originals in theaters. It will be
a sad day when there are Apes fans who don't know who Ursus, Zaius, Zira, and
Cornelius are.

Loc


In a message dated 6/21/01 12:05:09 AM Central Daylight Time,
CrystalRoses16@... writes:

> Tell me do you think the new movie is too much? I mean too flashy
> etc... I like what I've seen . I think people have to relise is that
> if they really wan't the new generation to get in to POTA .They got
> to do it in a style that they find atractive ,and hopheyly it's not
> too much for the generation that grew up loving the characters .But
> mabey this is a movie that can get diffrent generationgs to see it
> together

In a message dated 6/21/01 12:45:40 AM Central Daylight Time,
locutusatwolf359@... writes:

<< It will be a sad day when there are Apes fans who don't know who Ursus,
Zaius, Zira, and Cornelius are. >>

Yikes! I missed the chat. I hope there will be more. As a rule I don't
care for chatrooms, but I'd go to talk apes. We have the power of speech!
We can think! We can reason. As for the Next Generation Apes fans. I hope
the original film will become a midnight movie double feature with the late
night last showing of the new film. So these punk kids can have a chance to
see what started it all on the big screen!

> And forgive me if this has been asked here before, but does anyone
> else care to share what favorite dialogue clips your computer
> assaults you with? /Mez

Hey Mez,

I have to confess that whenever I open my computer I am assaulted
with.....

"INVADE INVADE INVADE"

Daniel

Lousy Yahoo bastards! I posted this about 5 hours ago before checking to see
that the new novel is on Amazon which I posted when I found out and that
showed up first! This message just now appeared!

Loc


In a message dated 6/21/01 2:09:39 AM Central Daylight Time,
locutusatwolf359@... writes:

> Not that I know of which is too bad.
>
> Loc
>
>
> In a message dated 6/20/01 9:07:43 PM Central Daylight Time,
> CrystalRoses16@... writes:
>
> > Does any one know if Tim Burton is planing to relese an adiptation novel
> > for the new film??
>

Yeah, the chat was great last night! I recommend it to anyone with AOL and I
know there's a lot of people on here that have it. We've already talked about
doing it every Monday night around 7pm central time. Let us know for next
week mlccougar! I'm sure this message will show up on Yahoo sometime before
the new film comes out. (I hope!)

Loc


In a message dated 6/21/01 2:23:25 AM Central Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:

> Yikes! I missed the chat. I hope there will be more. As a rule I don't
> care for chatrooms, but I'd go to talk apes. We have the power of speech!

> We can think! We can reason.

<< Lousy Yahoo bastards! >>

That would be a good WAV. for when I get booted off line!


What did the Szechwan restaurant say to the competition across the street?

Lousy Hunan Bastards!

Like that Rob Zombie song. More Hunan that Yunan! More Hunan than Yunan!