--- In pota@y..., "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@h...> wrote:

> That's not a narration to the film.
> That's a quote from Ari IN the film.

That sounds like it has the potential to be very cool then, it seemed
a bit cheesy the way it was presented in the trailer.

Now on to Ari; I *love* the make ups for the new apes, except Ari's.
Most of the apes look genuinely terrifying and realistic. Ari looks a
bit fake in the footage I've seen

In a message dated 7/17/01 10:14:37 AM Central Daylight Time,
danpiercy@... writes:

<< it just didn't work very well, all that echo and reverb and shit on the
sound bites was pretty bad. >>

I thought that choppy crap went out with Max Headroom!
It never ceases to amaze me these techno crap rap guys amaze themselves by
chopping up a piece of music and call it art. But what really amazes me is
that others seem amazed by it. It's not exactly Fat Boy Slim, is it? I did
enjoy Elfman's efforts though. Gotta run... I have to Xerox the Mona Lisa
and chop it into a Picasso.

In a message dated 7/17/01 11:24:44 AM Central Daylight Time,
danpiercy@... writes:

<< so what do you people think of the beginning narration that is to
accompany the film >>

I thought it was remincent of the Road Warrior, who lives now...only in my
memory.

In a message dated 7/17/01 1:52:53 PM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:

<< Seems the production is 3-4 days behind shedule with post-production
special-effects work still underway whilst live-action reshoots of the
opening 'rocket crash' scene took place just two weeks ago - >>

Oh no...We weren't rushed! Believe me! We did not rush this film.
Oh, and the congressman is not a suspect!

--- In pota@y..., danpiercy@y... wrote:

> --- In pota@y..., "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@h...> wrote:
>
> > That's not a narration to the film.
> > That's a quote from Ari IN the film.
>
> That sounds like it has the potential to be very cool then, it

seemed

> a bit cheesy the way it was presented in the trailer.
>
> Now on to Ari; I *love* the make ups for the new apes, except

Ari's.

> Most of the apes look genuinely terrifying and realistic. Ari looks

a

> bit fake in the footage I've seen

I like the way the gorillas and orangutans look .Ari looks too
human to me .

--- In pota@y..., LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> In a message dated 7/17/01 1:52:53 PM Central Daylight Time,

Haristas@a...

> writes:
>
> << Seems the production is 3-4 days behind shedule with post-

production

> special-effects work still underway whilst live-action reshoots of

the

> opening 'rocket crash' scene took place just two weeks ago - >>
>
> Oh no...We weren't rushed! Believe me! We did not rush this

film.

> Oh, and the congressman is not a suspect!

Tbere still filming ?? Oh good grife !

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--- In pota@y..., "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@h...> wrote:

> There are some reviews of JPIII on the Ain't-it-cool-news website.

They are

> very mixed. Some are quite disappointed with it, saying the first

two were

> much better.
>
>
> Well it's as I thought. Just another chase and scream flick.
> At least Apes will have some food for thought as well as chase and

srceam! :o)

>
> Best,
> Alex

Oh come one .Violence sells .

Are they still filming the movie ???

Curious does any one know what are the big money movies curently for
this Summer ? And what has floped?

.htmlClick here: [ I N S I D E ] Planet of the Apes Is Having a Bumpy Path to
Opening Night

I tried sending this before.  Don't know if it made it. <.html

.htmlIn a message dated 7/17/01 5:49:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
CrystalRoses16@... writes:

Are they still filming the movie ???

Three weeks ago there were re-shoots done in London.   From what I've read
today the CGI work is still being done.

This is not good news, folks!

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 7/17/01 6:43:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
CrystalRoses16@... writes:

Curious does any one know what are the big money movies curently for
this Summer ? And what has floped?

I'm not sure, but has "Tomb Raider" flopped?   I think "A.I." is a flop, also
this "Final Fantasy" thing.

-- Rory<.html

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:

> <A HREF="http://inside.com/jcs/Story?

article_id=34802&pod_id=10">Click here: [ I N S I D E ] Planet of the
Apes Is Having a Bumpy Path to

> Opening Night</A>
>
> I tried sending this before. Don't know if it made it.

Intersting . I saw on Entertaiment Tonight today that they will
have some enterviews and fottege tommorw .

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 7/17/01 6:43:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> CrystalRoses16@a... writes:
>
>
> > Curious does any one know what are the big money movies curently

for

> > this Summer ? And what has floped?
> >
>
> I'm not sure, but has "Tomb Raider" flopped? I think "A.I." is a

flop, also

> this "Final Fantasy" thing.
>
> -- Rory

My parents saw all thouges movies .They couldn't handel A.I.Sad it
was way too depresing .They liked the special effects in Final
Fantasy and Tomb Raider though .But that the plot isn't all that
great in either movies .

That is my biggest fear for POTA . That the effects and everything
is good .But the plot isn't .

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 7/17/01 5:49:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> CrystalRoses16@a... writes:
>
>
> > Are they still filming the movie ???
> >
>
> Three weeks ago there were re-shoots done in London. From what

I've read

> today the CGI work is still being done.
>
> This is not good news, folks!
>
> -- Rory

* Crys * Aahah ! Come on . I wan't to see it all ready . What is
Burtan and co. doing ??

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Hey Rory, I'm still here. I'm kinda staying away from all the behind the
scenes stuff until after the movie opens. I'll tape them then watch them
after the movie opens. I think the latest trailer shows a bit too much. I'm
distressed to say the least about the last minute rush. Damn, I hope they
don't screw this up! This is turning into the slowest, longest week and a
half I've ever lived through! Regarding the current summer movie season,
very, very disappointing. Shrek was OK, PH sucked, A.I. was sappy and boring.
I just hope POTA is a good, solid flick. Is it the 27th yet? Gotta get back
to my pacing. Later, John

<< Three weeks ago there were re-shoots done in London. From what I've read
today the CGI work is still being done.

This is not good news, folks! >>

I for one would rather wait another year than see some half assed piece o'
crap with the POTA name on it. I don't know why their pushing it. They
waited this long. Why not just realease it for Christmas and do it right?

In a message dated 7/17/01 6:39:05 PM Central Daylight Time,
CrystalRoses16@... writes:

<< That is my biggest fear for POTA . That the effects and everything
is good .But the plot isn't . >>

It's a bit late in the day to try and fix the plot.
I just hope they can finish the FX by next week.
If not they should just call it off.

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What the hell is this?
Does someone have a crush on the whole group?

Seems like an awful lot of effort to bail out on it now!
I wonder why that is?
I hope the samthing doesn happen to the other games I've been waiting years
on.

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.htmlI think this is oversteping ape law we are all friends Lets keep it that way!<.html

.htmlYes i agree,I think the new movie will be diffrent but basic same story cant
be any worse than battle for planet apes! Its still fun to watch.now we get
new characters see .If you think about it the TV series had new characters
every town they went to Limbo looks like he will be memorable,some storys are
better than others just go with it!They will be putting everything they got
in this so action better than plot doesnt bother me ,It will continue in 2003
the story will unravel even more,So what we dont get in part one there is
always part 2 I am just happy to see the new look Bryan<.html

''They wanted to be able to sell the film as a sci-fi 'Gladiator.' ''

What did I tell ya.
Gorilliator !!!

Why don't the suits do us all a favor and crawl back under the rock from
whence
they came? I believe the evolutionary ladder goes; used car salesman, A&R
exec, studio exec! They occupy it's lowest level, and deservedly so!

--- In pota@y..., LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> << Three weeks ago there were re-shoots done in London. From what

I've read

> today the CGI work is still being done.
>
> This is not good news, folks! >>
>
> I for one would rather wait another year than see some half assed

piece o'

> crap with the POTA name on it. I don't know why their pushing it.

They

> waited this long. Why not just realease it for Christmas and do it

right?

Good point .But then they would be aginst Lord of the Rings .

In a message dated 7/18/01 7:21:34 AM Central Daylight Time,
danpiercy@... writes:

<< Now on to Ari; I *love* the make ups for the new apes, except Ari's.
Most of the apes look genuinely terrifying and realistic. Ari looks a
bit fake in the footage I've seen >>

Here again, why have realistic apes only to make others so unrealistic. It
defeats the purpose. If he had gone for the hybrid thing I would understand,
but....

.htmlClick here: Ain't It Cool News - View Article

Okay, here's a first review of the film.  It looks as if this isn't going to
be as I feared -- I hope anyway!   I talked to Joe Russo last night about his
book, and he's very excited to see the new film.  He'll be going to the
premiere Monday night.  He's also going to be doing a book signing with Kim
Hunter on August 7th at the Barnes and Noble in Astor Place, N.Y.   His book
comes out on August 1st, by the way.

-- Rory <.html

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:

> <A HREF="http://aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=9594">Click

here: Ain't It Cool News - View Article</A>

>
> Okay, here's a first review of the film. It looks as if this isn't

going to

> be as I feared -- I hope anyway! I talked to Joe Russo last night

about his

> book, and he's very excited to see the new film. He'll be going to

the

> premiere Monday night. He's also going to be doing a book signing

with Kim

> Hunter on August 7th at the Barnes and Noble in Astor Place, N.Y.

His book

> comes out on August 1st, by the way.
>
> -- Rory

Great review . Gives me hope for the new movie . Can't wait to see
it .

<danpiercy@...> wrote:

> so what do you people think of the beginning narration that is to
> accompany the film (it's in one of the trailers so I assume it will
> be in the film)?

I wouldn't worry too much. A trailer featuring narration is no indication at
all that the actual film will. I would doubt it, in fact. Though narration
can certainly be good (Mad Max 2, Stand By Me).

Alan

Loads of new magazine articles, but if like me you're only interested in the
ones covering classic PotA...

Starburst has a big look at the original, which looks impressive at first
glance but appears to be nothing much more than a rehash of the documentary.

Dreamwatch has coverage of the new film but also interviews with Delano,
Trundy, Colley.

Alan

.htmlDid anyone else see the stuff just on E.T. and Access Hollywood.
E.T. had a very short thing about the Ape School and how the actors learned
to move like apes.  Access had a longer segment on the makeup and showed
speeded-up footage of the make-up being applied.  They also said that next
week's TV Guide will have four different covers featuring characters from the
new film.

After what I read on the Ain't-it-cool-news website today, and now seeing how
cool the new make-up is, I'm really getting psyched for this film.

-- Rory<.html

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...and forgive me if this was mentioned too, but there's stuff in trailers all the time that doesn't show up when released i.e. narration, music, scenes.    I'll only be pissed if they edit Linda Harrison out in the final cut.  :)

I'm a bigger fan of letting, well, the story tell the story.  I'll let Tim off the hook if it's something a la John Huston in Battle.  An homage yes, copying it no.  And I hope it's not Fox pulling the strings on that kind of thing for more box office or anticipated test audience BS. 

Where it can be bad:  I felt 'Bladerunner' worked better without the studio-mandated narration that WB (I think) insisted on.   Give Ridley Scott props for his Director's Cut.  Maybe there's a parallel too since both films are very stylized, imprinted with their director's vision...

I'm down with pre-release hype though.  I need to try to keep notions and expectations minimal now and just show up July 27 like I should.  THEN we'll talk...but I'm just ranting...

rick

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-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Maxwell [mailto:alan@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 3:11 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] narration

<danpiercy@...> wrote:
> so what do you people think of the beginning narration that is to
> accompany the film (it's in one of the trailers so I assume it will
> be in the film)?

I wouldn't worry too much. A trailer featuring narration is no indication at
all that the actual film will. I would doubt it, in fact. Though narration
can certainly be good (Mad Max 2, Stand By Me).

Alan

 

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In a message dated 7/18/01 7:53:20 PM, Haristas@... writes:

<< After what I read on the Ain't-it-cool-news website today, and now seeing
how
cool the new make-up is, I'm really getting psyched for this film. >>

Geez, Rory....you're really blowing hot and cold on this one the last few
days! Make up your mind ;)

Matt

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On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 23:13:01 +0100 "Alan Maxwell"
<alan@...> writes:

> Dreamwatch has coverage of the new film but also interviews with

Delano, Trundy, Colley.

Two quick questions

1) Who's "Delano"?

2) What would I have to do to get you to post the interviews to the
group? Sounds like they could be
interesting.


Chris L.
____

So I'm poking around Borders Books and Music this past Saturday while
waiting to meet up with a friend and heads down to the blues festival,
and what do I see on the shelf but the POTA book by David Hofstede. I was
kind of surprised they only had that and a soft cover version of Green's
book considering the movie was only a couple of weeks away, but anyway...

Truth be told, I wasn't too impressed with what I saw. Most of the
content was a simplified rehash of what any POTA knows backwards and
forwards, albeit with some GLOWING errors. The Sci Fi Channel first aired
the POTA television series in 1980? Gregory Sierra played a gorilla
Sergeant in BENEATH? Inaccurate quotes from the films, misquoting the ad
campaign for ESCAPE... the list goes on, and I won't even mention how bad
the timeline is.

Then there's the fact that the guy obviously doesn't like BENEATH. For
the other films, most of the movie review quotes he chose were fairly
positive. For BENEATH (and BATTLE, come to think of it), he chose mostly
negative ones, and even the positive ones still had something bad to say
about the film. I always thought books like this were supposed to be a
little more...objective.

I hope Russo's book is somewhat better. Does anyone know anything about
this 'POTA Chronicles' by Paul A. Woods? Go to amazon.com and enter POTA
in the search engine, then look under book results if you don't know what
I'm talking about.


Just found this:
http://mrshowbiz.go.com/news/2001/7/planetoftheapes071801.html"


Nothing we haven't already read, but worth a look.


Chris L.
____

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record it again My tape broke the first time and i lost it.Bryan<.html

Alex,
I'm listening to your cd yet again and still love it! Are you going to
make any more for the tv show, cartoon, and new movie? I would be more than
happy to pay for one. I also noticed Paul Oakenfeld does one song on the new
movie's soundtrack. He's pretty good. I downloaded an MP3 of Depeche Mode's
"It's no good" that he remixed. I think they stole your idea. :)

Loc

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<< Where it can be bad: I felt 'Bladerunner' worked better without the
studio-mandated narration that WB (I think) insisted on. Give Ridley Scott
props for his Director's Cut. Maybe there's a parallel too since both films
are very stylized, imprinted with their director's vision... >>

The Blade Runner narration was kinda Mickey Spielain -- or Raymand Chandler,
but worked okay for a sci-fi detective story. I did think the director's cut
was better. But only because I knew all the info in the narration already.
I think if Ari has a brief intro or outro ala Road Warrior that'll work. It
too bad Bruton doesn't believe in director's cuts. Then maybe he could
finish it right. After being rushed by the studio like this, I wonder if he
still believes you do what you can with what the studio give you, and that's
your final cut. I hope when it goes to DVD all the endings will be in the
extras.

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.htmlIn a message dated 7/19/01 12:55:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

Geez, Rory....you're really blowing hot and cold on this one the last few
days! Make up your mind ;)

Matt

I'll be making up my mind when I finally see it.<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 7/19/01 5:25:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
lawford42@... writes:

I hope Russo's book is somewhat better. Does anyone know anything about
this 'POTA Chronicles' by Paul A. Woods? Go to amazon.com and enter POTA
in the search engine, then look under book results if you don't know what
I'm talking about.

Russo's book will be MUCH better, though it'll only cover the making of the
five films and a brief chapter on the TV show.  He thinks the Hofstede book
is crap.  I think the POTA Chronicles is about the making of the new film,
but I haven't checked it out yet.

-- Rory<.html

.htmlSaw in Tv Guide weds the fox 30 min apes preview 7:00 pm Pacific time hope
its a little diffrent than the MTV special any news on HBO First look apes
special? Bryan<.html

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From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:43 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] POTA: An unofficial companion

In a message dated 7/19/01 5:25:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
lawford42@... writes:

I hope Russo's book is somewhat better. Does anyone know anything about
this 'POTA Chronicles' by Paul A. Woods? Go to amazon.com and enter POTA
in the search engine, then look under book results if you don't know what
I'm talking about.

Russo's book will be MUCH better, though it'll only cover the making of the
five films and a brief chapter on the TV show.  He thinks the Hofstede book
is crap.  I think the POTA Chronicles is about the making of the new film,
but I haven't checked it out yet.

-- Rory
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.html Hey Gang,

I just saw one of the new posters on a bus stop here, IT'S AWESOME!!!

It looks like a milk ad, black and white, with a figure standing in the middle with the slogan "CLASSIC REVISTED" across the front.  The figure is a gorilla warrior with a huge sword in that classic Frank Frazetta CONAN pose.  VERY VERY COOL!!!!

Just thought I'd share my excitement!!!

Brian

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--- In pota@y..., Brian <apeman@a...> wrote:

> Hey Gang,
>
> I just saw one of the new posters on a bus stop here, IT'S

AWESOME!!!

>
> It looks like a milk ad, black and white, with a figure standing in

the

> middle with the slogan "CLASSIC REVISTED" across the front. The

figure is a

> gorilla warrior with a huge sword in that classic Frank Frazetta

CONAN

> pose. VERY VERY COOL!!!!
>
> Just thought I'd share my excitement!!!
>
> Brian

That does sound awsome !!

Will there be a chat tonight ?

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:25 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: MTV APES SPECIAL REPEAT?

Does anyone know if the apes mtv special will repeat? and when?I wanted to
record it again My tape broke the first time and i lost it.Bryan

 

 

Sunday July 22nd 5:00 PM and 9:30 PM EST.

Monday July 23rd 10:30 PM EST

Wed. July 25th 6:00 PM EST

Thurs. July 26th 2:00 PM EST and 12:00 AM EST.

 

 

Best,

Al

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 8:53 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Hey Alex!

Alex,
    I'm listening to your cd yet again and still love it! Are you going to
make any more for the tv show, cartoon, and new movie? I would be more than
happy to pay for one. I also noticed Paul Oakenfeld does one song on the new
movie's soundtrack. He's pretty good. I downloaded an MP3 of Depeche Mode's
"It's no good" that he remixed. I think they stole your idea. :)

Loc

 

Hi Loc.

Well I wouldn't say that. I think the idea from the apes music video came from the same idea when they made the music video for Phantom Menace. More or less all that was done for Phantom Menace is being done for POTA.

As for a future CD, I'm right about now reaching Web Site Burn Out. :o)

And after August when it is all said and done as for as POTA hype, I'm taking a very long break from web siting. The site will remain on line while I take a break until 2003 for the sequel.

 

No joke...I'm really burned out.

Working a full time job and perhaps spending just as much time on the site has taken it's toll. And now I'm ready to kick back and enjoy life once again. :o)

 

Best,

Al

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 5:52 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Re: Hey Alex!

I see the 2 -disc DVD of the first "Terminator" movie is due in October. Alex should be happy to watch that during his break. Off topic? OK, Cameron and Ah-nuld were going to do "Apes". There!                                      - - - - - Jeff K.

 

 

From your lips to God's ears...

MAYDAY MAYDAY..GOING DOWN..come it?

 

I need a long break.

 

Best,

Al

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 1:57 PM

Subject: [pota] New posters out

Hey Gang,

I just saw one of the new posters on a bus stop here, IT'S AWESOME!!!

It looks like a milk ad, black and white, with a figure standing in the middle with the slogan "CLASSIC REVISTED" across the front.  The figure is a gorilla warrior with a huge sword in that classic Frank Frazetta CONAN pose.  VERY VERY COOL!!!!

Just thought I'd share my excitement!!!

Brian

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: lukenevil@... ; pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 8:30 PM

Subject: Re:[pota] Please help: Advanced POTA fans

Hi Luke,

Having worked with Rick Baker on film projects in the past and sharing his love for apes (mine leaning heavily towards Planet of the Apes characters, his leaning toward real life simians)  I'd have to say I'd love to have developed a Mandrill type character for the new film.

Back in 1990 when Adam Rifkin was involved with the first incarnation of the Apes re-make idea, I did a handfull of designs based on Mandrills, Baboons, and Gibbons.  Really fun stuff.

As far as what planet I'd like to crash-land on?  Is there a Brittney Spears planet?  How about a Claudia Schiffer Moon?  Ruth Buzzi asteroid?

Good luck with your article.

Brian Penikas
Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM
<http://www.apemania.com>
 
 

lukenevil@... wrote:

As we're looking at (in our media studies course at high school) all
the original POTA films and also studying Pierre Boulle's original
novel),we have to conduct a net poll amongst casual or preferably
advanced POTA film fans on the two questions below.   If I could tap
into the POTA creative wit and extensive knowledge of any readers,
I'd greatly appreciate it.

1.  Creatively and wittily describe what you'd personally regard as
the best / coolest Ape costume and character you'd create for a new
Planet of the Apes film if (hypothetically speaking) you were in Rick
Baker's position.

2.   Which planet would you most like to accidentally land on and
WHY ?   It doesn't at all have to be based on any planet/s in the
Apes mythos,but it certainly can if you want.   No problem if you
want it to be Earth in an alternate sci fi reality,like in POTA.
If so,describe it.

Sincerely,

Luke Nevil
 
 

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Yes! Lord T, you are a genius! Here's my idea for a figure: do a guy with a
removable ape face and when you remove the face he's got those dark rings
under his eyes. He's an actor, see?
- - -
- Jeff

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Subject: Re: [pota] Re: HASBRO CONSUMER AFFAIRS


>
>
> I never bothered with the Hasbro's or the Mego's. I always thought them
kind
> of lame compared to the models, and there is no comparison to the
Medicom's.
> As far as Zira and Cornelius in spacesuits . . . it's been done. What I'd
> like to see in future is them in their 70's clothes. No ones done That
> before.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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From: Chris Lawless

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 10:27 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: What's in a name?

On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 11:35:40 -0400 "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@...> writes:

Alex, was the new Nova named that in the script?

 

                                                                        - - - - - Jeff K.

 

 

Not at all, If she is already know to Ari's family when visiting at supper time as is in the trailer and script. No introductions would be needed. So no names are given.

 

Perhaps she's named Nova, but the name would never be spoken in the film.

As was with the Mutants in Beneath.

 

Best,

Alex

 

 

But wasn't that more due to the editing room than by original design? During her Apes mailing list chat, I remember Natalie Trundy saying that while filming they referred to each other by character names.

 

 

Chris L.

 

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.html Good Idea!  It's at a busstop not too far from the lab!  I'll try to get that out to you all tomorrow.

B

Jack Krueger wrote:

 Brian - - -  I haven't seen that. Can you take a picture of it and send it to the group?                                                        - - - - Jeff  

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From: Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 1:57 PM

Subject: [pota] New posters out

 Hey Gang,

I just saw one of the new posters on a bus stop here, IT'S AWESOME!!!

It looks like a milk ad, black and white, with a figure standing in the middle with the slogan "CLASSIC REVISTED" across the front.  The figure is a gorilla warrior with a huge sword in that classic Frank Frazetta CONAN pose.  VERY VERY COOL!!!!

Just thought I'd share my excitement!!!

Brian
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.html I was a designer at Tony Gardner's now defunct ALTERIAN studios back the.  We were working on "Mom & Dad Save the World" when the Rifkin ape script came through the lab.  We did a handfull of maquettes and illustrations.  I'd say the designs were somewhere between the originals and the Stan Winston designs that came later.  The three designs I did were of a Baboon, Mandrill, and a Gibbon.  I think the Rifkin scripts pop up on eBay from time to time, though I haven't seen one in a while, and no, I do not have one in my possession.  Darn.

It was a cool concept tho, 30 years since the first film (with no acknowledgement that any of the sequels ever happened).  Taylor and Cornelius' sons have grown to adulthood and try to uncover a conspiracy (ala Oliver Stone) of who's killing off all the high council members of Ape City.  I never got all the way through the script myself, but it was pretty good from what I remember of the "buzz".

Brian

Jack Krueger wrote:

  Brian - - -  What do you know about the Adam Rifkin "Apes". I assumed at that stage they were planning a lower budget affair, since Rifkin was an untried director and his script basically picked up from the first movie (Taylor, Cornelius, etc.). I figured they would have just kept the original makeup and costumes.                                                                       - - - - Jeff  

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: lukenevil@... ; pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 8:30 PM

Subject: Re:[pota] Please help: Advanced POTA fans

 Hi Luke,

Having worked with Rick Baker on film projects in the past and sharing his love for apes (mine leaning heavily towards Planet of the Apes characters, his leaning toward real life simians)  I'd have to say I'd love to have developed a Mandrill type character for the new film.

Back in 1990 when Adam Rifkin was involved with the first incarnation of the Apes re-make idea, I did a handfull of designs based on Mandrills, Baboons, and Gibbons.  Really fun stuff.

As far as what planet I'd like to crash-land on?  Is there a Brittney Spears planet?  How about a Claudia Schiffer Moon?  Ruth Buzzi asteroid?

Good luck with your article.

Brian Penikas
Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM
<http://www.apemania.com>
 
 

lukenevil@... wrote:

As we're looking at (in our media studies course at high school) all
the original POTA films and also studying Pierre Boulle's original
novel),we have to conduct a net poll amongst casual or preferably
advanced POTA film fans on the two questions below.   If I could tap
into the POTA creative wit and extensive knowledge of any readers,
I'd greatly appreciate it.

1.  Creatively and wittily describe what you'd personally regard as
the best / coolest Ape costume and character you'd create for a new
Planet of the Apes film if (hypothetically speaking) you were in Rick
Baker's position.

2.   Which planet would you most like to accidentally land on and
WHY ?   It doesn't at all have to be based on any planet/s in the
Apes mythos,but it certainly can if you want.   No problem if you
want it to be Earth in an alternate sci fi reality,like in POTA.
If so,describe it.

Sincerely,

Luke Nevil
 
 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 10:38 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Please help: Advanced POTA fans

I was a designer at Tony Gardner's now defunct ALTERIAN studios back the.  We were working on "Mom & Dad Save the World" when the Rifkin ape script came through the lab.  We did a handfull of maquettes and illustrations.  I'd say the designs were somewhere between the originals and the Stan Winston designs that came later.  The three designs I did were of a Baboon, Mandrill, and a Gibbon.  I think the Rifkin scripts pop up on eBay from time to time, though I haven't seen one in a while, and no, I do not have one in my possession.  Darn.

It was a cool concept tho, 30 years since the first film (with no acknowledgement that any of the sequels ever happened).  Taylor and Cornelius' sons have grown to adulthood and try to uncover a conspiracy (ala Oliver Stone) of who's killing off all the high council members of Ape City.  I never got all the way through the script myself, but it was pretty good from what I remember of the "buzz".

Brian

Jack Krueger wrote:

  Brian - - -  What do you know about the Adam Rifkin "Apes". I assumed at that stage they were planning a lower budget affair, since Rifkin was an untried director and his script basically picked up from the first movie (Taylor, Cornelius, etc.). I figured they would have just kept the original makeup and costumes.                                                                       - - - - Jeff  

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: lukenevil@... ; pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 8:30 PM

Subject: Re:[pota] Please help: Advanced POTA fans

 Hi Luke,

Having worked with Rick Baker on film projects in the past and sharing his love for apes (mine leaning heavily towards Planet of the Apes characters, his leaning toward real life simians)  I'd have to say I'd love to have developed a Mandrill type character for the new film.

Back in 1990 when Adam Rifkin was involved with the first incarnation of the Apes re-make idea, I did a handfull of designs based on Mandrills, Baboons, and Gibbons.  Really fun stuff.

As far as what planet I'd like to crash-land on?  Is there a Brittney Spears planet?  How about a Claudia Schiffer Moon?  Ruth Buzzi asteroid?

Good luck with your article.

Brian Penikas
Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM
<http://www.apemania.com>
 
 

lukenevil@... wrote:

As we're looking at (in our media studies course at high school) all
the original POTA films and also studying Pierre Boulle's original
novel),we have to conduct a net poll amongst casual or preferably
advanced POTA film fans on the two questions below.   If I could tap
into the POTA creative wit and extensive knowledge of any readers,
I'd greatly appreciate it.

1.  Creatively and wittily describe what you'd personally regard as
the best / coolest Ape costume and character you'd create for a new
Planet of the Apes film if (hypothetically speaking) you were in Rick
Baker's position.

2.   Which planet would you most like to accidentally land on and
WHY ?   It doesn't at all have to be based on any planet/s in the
Apes mythos,but it certainly can if you want.   No problem if you
want it to be Earth in an alternate sci fi reality,like in POTA.
If so,describe it.

Sincerely,

Luke Nevil
 
 

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From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 4:33 AM

Subject: [pota] JPIII reviews

There are some reviews of JPIII on the Ain't-it-cool-news website.  They are
very mixed.  Some are quite disappointed with it, saying the first two were
much better.

Boy, this has really been a very disappointing Summer movie season.  
Everything is mediocre.  I think it's just that there aren't good
screenwriters out there.

Well, let's hope APES has something about it everyone digs.

-- Rory
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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 7:15 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Hey! Where's The Video Game?

I heard that it was post-poned until after the release of the new film.  Go figure?  But I have not heard when exactly.  Maybe the Christmas rush?

B

LordTZer0@... wrote:

  Where's that POTA video game.
Some guy at a software store told me the release was canceled!
I hope that's not true.
Any news on that? . . . Brian, can you give us some word?
 
 

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Ari looks to be the classic Tim Burton outsider character, a she-chimp
Johnny Depp. At least it's Burton showing a little artistry instead of
painting by numbers.

- - - -
Jeff K.

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From: <danpiercy@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 12:16 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: narration and Ari


> --- In pota@y..., "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@h...> wrote:
>
> > That's not a narration to the film.
> > That's a quote from Ari IN the film.
>
> That sounds like it has the potential to be very cool then, it seemed
> a bit cheesy the way it was presented in the trailer.
>
> Now on to Ari; I *love* the make ups for the new apes, except Ari's.
> Most of the apes look genuinely terrifying and realistic. Ari looks a
> bit fake in the footage I've seen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

7/27/01: It would be the biggest advertising blunder in history if it didn't
make the release date.

- - - - Jeff
K.

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Still Filming ?


> << Three weeks ago there were re-shoots done in London. From what I've
read
> today the CGI work is still being done.
>
> This is not good news, folks! >>
>
> I for one would rather wait another year than see some half assed piece o'
> crap with the POTA name on it. I don't know why their pushing it. They
> waited this long. Why not just realease it for Christmas and do it right?
>
>
>
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 5:33 PM

Subject: [pota] Original Apes Soundtrack CD

The original POTA soundtrack cd has been released yet again.I just picked it
up at Media Play for $6.99.The cover is the same shot of Zaius as on the LP
cover,but with more of the dark background to the left and it has the APES
logo in white.The back cover has 4 photos, Taylor, Zaius, Nova, and
Marcus.Also, the inner tray has B&W photos from the film as well.

It has 11 tracks:

Main Title
The Search
The Clothes Snatchers
The Hunt
A New Mate
The Revelation
No Escape
New Identity
A Bid For Freedom
The Forbidden Zone
The Cave

It is on the Masters label (Masters 1249).I didn't know of this reissue,so I
thought I'd let you know as well.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2001 15:49
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Please help: Advanced POTA fans

 Thanks Brian. Sounds like Fox was serious. I thought Rifkin's project was "pre-serious". How did it feel to design stuff for a new "Planet of the Apes"?

 

 The only thing I didn't like about your post is you reminded me of "Mom and Dad Save the World".

 

                                                                       - - - Jeff

 

 P.S.: Where is everybody? There's a week to go!

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 10:38 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Please help: Advanced POTA fans

I was a designer at Tony Gardner's now defunct ALTERIAN studios back the.  We were working on "Mom & Dad Save the World" when the Rifkin ape script came through the lab.  We did a handfull of maquettes and illustrations.  I'd say the designs were somewhere between the originals and the Stan Winston designs that came later.  The three designs I did were of a Baboon, Mandrill, and a Gibbon.  I think the Rifkin scripts pop up on eBay from time to time, though I haven't seen one in a while, and no, I do not have one in my possession.  Darn.

It was a cool concept tho, 30 years since the first film (with no acknowledgement that any of the sequels ever happened).  Taylor and Cornelius' sons have grown to adulthood and try to uncover a conspiracy (ala Oliver Stone) of who's killing off all the high council members of Ape City.  I never got all the way through the script myself, but it was pretty good from what I remember of the "buzz".

Brian

Jack Krueger wrote:

  Brian - - -  What do you know about the Adam Rifkin "Apes". I assumed at that stage they were planning a lower budget affair, since Rifkin was an untried director and his script basically picked up from the first movie (Taylor, Cornelius, etc.). I figured they would have just kept the original makeup and costumes.                                                                       - - - - Jeff  

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: lukenevil@... ; pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 8:30 PM

Subject: Re:[pota] Please help: Advanced POTA fans

 Hi Luke,

Having worked with Rick Baker on film projects in the past and sharing his love for apes (mine leaning heavily towards Planet of the Apes characters, his leaning toward real life simians)  I'd have to say I'd love to have developed a Mandrill type character for the new film.

Back in 1990 when Adam Rifkin was involved with the first incarnation of the Apes re-make idea, I did a handfull of designs based on Mandrills, Baboons, and Gibbons.  Really fun stuff.

As far as what planet I'd like to crash-land on?  Is there a Brittney Spears planet?  How about a Claudia Schiffer Moon?  Ruth Buzzi asteroid?

Good luck with your article.

Brian Penikas
Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM
<http://www.apemania.com>
 
 

lukenevil@... wrote:

As we're looking at (in our media studies course at high school) all
the original POTA films and also studying Pierre Boulle's original
novel),we have to conduct a net poll amongst casual or preferably
advanced POTA film fans on the two questions below.   If I could tap
into the POTA creative wit and extensive knowledge of any readers,
I'd greatly appreciate it.

1.  Creatively and wittily describe what you'd personally regard as
the best / coolest Ape costume and character you'd create for a new
Planet of the Apes film if (hypothetically speaking) you were in Rick
Baker's position.

2.   Which planet would you most like to accidentally land on and
WHY ?   It doesn't at all have to be based on any planet/s in the
Apes mythos,but it certainly can if you want.   No problem if you
want it to be Earth in an alternate sci fi reality,like in POTA.
If so,describe it.

Sincerely,

Luke Nevil
 
 

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Hey Gang,

That new apes bus stop poster turned out to be a REBOK ad. Very Cool!
Here's some pix.

Brian

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From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 7:30 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: First scene sucks

Got done checking out Alex's website. That "Gorilla Warfare" scene isn't very good, a stupid conflict and I hope the army chattering like that doesn't get laughs. Not the best scene (I hope!) to advertise the movie.

 

 

Yeah, I thought the same when I first heard that.

But it's nothing new, the same ape sounds can be heard in Conqest.

Perhaps Burton got the idea from there.

 

Best,

Al

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Wow! Thanks Brian. I want one! But the movie's tag line, "Rule the Planet",
sounds like a Nike ad.
- -
- - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian" <apeman@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 8:03 AM
Subject: [pota] REBOK POSTER


> Hey Gang,
>
> That new apes bus stop poster turned out to be a REBOK ad. Very Cool!
> Here's some pix.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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--- In pota@y..., "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@e...> wrote:

> 7/27/01: It would be the biggest advertising blunder in history if

it didn't

> make the release date.
>
> - - -

- Jeff

> K.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <LordTZer0@A...>
> To: <pota@y...>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 7:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [pota] Still Filming ?
>
>
> > << Three weeks ago there were re-shoots done in London. From

what I've

> read
> > today the CGI work is still being done.
> >
> > This is not good news, folks! >>
> >
> > I for one would rather wait another year than see some half assed

piece o'

> > crap with the POTA name on it. I don't know why their pushing

it. They

> > waited this long. Why not just realease it for Christmas and do

it right?

> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
> >

That would be bad .Also considering that a lot of peopl have been
disapointed with the Summer movies so far .

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 8:44 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: First scene sucks

"Conquest" works because it's a victory scene. But the new scene comes across as humorous to me because it's an army on the march. I hope they don't do that through the whole battle.

                                                                     - - - - Jeff

 

 

Victory scene?

I suggest you watch Conquest again Jeff, those sounds can be heard through the battle scenes as well.

 

Best,

Al

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The new issue of "Premiere" magazine includes a letter I wrote tooting
Arthur Jacobs' horn. Take that, Zanuck!

- - - - Jeff
K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian" <apeman@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 8:03 AM
Subject: [pota] REBOK POSTER


> Hey Gang,
>
> That new apes bus stop poster turned out to be a REBOK ad. Very Cool!
> Here's some pix.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 11:00 AM

Subject: [pota] POTA MOVIE REVIEW - No Spoilers!

Posted on Coming Attractions Message Forum.

I saw it also. I give it an 11 out of 10. This movie was absolutely brilliant. Tim Burton went in a different direction with this film than his others.

The Ape Culture was enormous, the religion, way of life, etc was just astonishing. Elfman did an excellent job with the music, in fact, its my favorite from any score I have ever heard.

The storyline was amazing, there was nothing wrong with it the least bit.

The apes were UNBELIEVABLE. They are as real as it gets, if they were any more real they would have to use real ones

Every actor, including Marky, was AWESOME. Burton new exactly what he was doing when he cast them.

I don't know where to begin on the make-up, Baker is a genius, omg, you have to see this movie, I can't even explain how awesome the make-up was.

Ape City was one of my favorite parts of the film... its enormous, so visually stunning I wonder how they did it; i personally think its more stunning than Star Wars.

The ending was THE BEST ENDING out of any movie I have ever scene besides the original. You will have to see this to believe also, I wanna tell you guys so much what it is but I'm not.

This movie really has no bad points at all.

I AM SO PICKY when it comes to movies, but this one was unbelievable...I had doubts b4 I saw the screening, but those doubts were taken away 100% when I saw it. Very Necessary.

If graded, it would get 110%.

No matter howhigh your expectations are, they will be met.

Hoping for the Best,

Al

 

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"Jeff Krueger" <williejoe@...> wrote:

>P.S.: Also some quotes from Elfman, who says the score is "really, really
>percussive". I got that issue of "Dreamwatch" and it was fun reading the
>interviews with the veterans, especially Natalie. But there's also a blurb
>about my bro Bill Blake.

A little snippet that appeared on FSM's website about the score:
"The recent reports about Danny Elfman being asked to rewrite portions of
his Planet of the Apes score "more heroically" ("like Gladiator") are an
exaggeration...Jeff Bond has interviewed the composer for an upcoming FSM,
and Elfman relates that although he did some rescoring, it was par for the
course for a summer event movie and there was no drastic reconception of the
score's approach.

"Look for Elfman and remix artist Paul Oakenfold to appear on MTV's "Making
Of" special about the movie, rerunning Sunday, July 22, at 9:30 PM. "


Alan

"Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:

> Make that 3 weeks for some of us, Jeff.

A little more for me - I'm off work for a couple of weeks and it happens to
coincide with Apes' August 17 release. However, rather than see it when it
comes out, I'm going to wait until the following week because then the
schools will be back in so there shouldn't be any annoying little kids in
the cinema!

I know, I know, I sound like a miserable old man.

Alan

"Chris Lawless" <lawford42@...> wrote:

> Two quick questions
>
> 1) Who's "Delano"?

Lee Delano, who played a gorilla in the TV series - but this interview
suggests he played a gorilla in the original movie, which is news to me.

> 2) What would I have to do to get you to post the interviews to the
> group? Sounds like they could be
> interesting.

Then buy a copy of Dreamwatch! Still on sale!

Alan

The link on Alex's website says that even if Fox did request changes, it
was too late to change the soundtrack album, so that will be
- - - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] "Apes" Sighting


> "Jeff Krueger" <williejoe@...> wrote:
> >P.S.: Also some quotes from Elfman, who says the score is "really, really
> >percussive". I got that issue of "Dreamwatch" and it was fun reading the
> >interviews with the veterans, especially Natalie. But there's also a
blurb
> >about my bro Bill Blake.
>
> A little snippet that appeared on FSM's website about the score:
> "The recent reports about Danny Elfman being asked to rewrite portions of
> his Planet of the Apes score "more heroically" ("like Gladiator") are an
> exaggeration...Jeff Bond has interviewed the composer for an upcoming FSM,
> and Elfman relates that although he did some rescoring, it was par for the
> course for a summer event movie and there was no drastic reconception of
the
> score's approach.
>
> "Look for Elfman and remix artist Paul Oakenfold to appear on MTV's
"Making
> Of" special about the movie, rerunning Sunday, July 22, at 9:30 PM. "
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Yah !! I'm so excited !

--- In pota@y..., "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@e...> wrote:
> Be honest, Alex! You wrote that review.
>
> Just kidding. - - - - Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alexander Ruiz
> To: pota@y...
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 11:00 AM
> Subject: [pota] POTA MOVIE REVIEW - No Spoilers!
>
>
> Posted on Coming Attractions Message Forum.
>
> I saw it also. I give it an 11 out of 10. This movie was
absolutely brilliant. Tim Burton went in a different direction with
this film than his others.
>
> The Ape Culture was enormous, the religion, way of life, etc was
just astonishing. Elfman did an excellent job with the music, in
fact, its my favorite from any score I have ever heard.
>
> The storyline was amazing, there was nothing wrong with it the
least bit.
>
> The apes were UNBELIEVABLE. They are as real as it gets, if they
were any more real they would have to use real ones
>
> Every actor, including Marky, was AWESOME. Burton new exactly
what he was doing when he cast them.
>
> I don't know where to begin on the make-up, Baker is a genius,
omg, you have to see this movie, I can't even explain how awesome the
make-up was.
>
> Ape City was one of my favorite parts of the film... its
enormous, so visually stunning I wonder how they did it; i personally
think its more stunning than Star Wars.
>
> The ending was THE BEST ENDING out of any movie I have ever scene
besides the original. You will have to see this to believe also, I
wanna tell you guys so much what it is but I'm not.
>
> This movie really has no bad points at all.
>
> I AM SO PICKY when it comes to movies, but this one was
unbelievable...I had doubts b4 I saw the screening, but those doubts
were taken away 100% when I saw it. Very Necessary.
>
> If graded, it would get 110%.
>
> No matter howhigh your expectations are, they will be met.
>
> Hoping for the Best,
>
> Al
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>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.

Did any one else noticed the femal chimp along side Ari in ,what I
think is the first trailer ? She looks more human then Ari ! I read
that Ari has siblings in her profiel at the officel site .Did any one
else notice that ?

I just talked to Joe Russo. He's been interviewed by E!, "Starlog",
newspapers, etc. It looks like he's going to the premiere as Kim Hunter's
guest, since they are doing a signing together later. It's great to hear,
since he worked so hard on that book and it's been such a long journey.
Overall, it's been a good experience for him and he's considering a sequel
book. He said he even sent a copy to Zanuck, who wrote him back with kind
words.

Brian - - -

Are you really going to the premiere? Are you going to do promo stuff
there?

- - - - Jeff
K.

----- Original Message -----
From: <CrystalRoses16@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 11:54 AM
Subject: [pota] Ari


> Did any one else noticed the femal chimp along side Ari in ,what I
> think is the first trailer ? She looks more human then Ari ! I read
> that Ari has siblings in her profiel at the officel site .Did any one
> else notice that ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

>The three designs I did were of a
> Baboon, Mandrill, and a Gibbon.

Do you have your designs online? I'm a (curious) illustrator who
enjoys drawing the pota characters and I'd love to see any other
artist's renditions online. Any links would be great.

Well I'm assuming your designs are illustrations. If I'm totally off
track here it's because I just joined this list. ;)

Thanks,

-Syrena

.htmlThis Wednesday we will have another Apes chat in the AOL chats. (As usual,
the start time will be 7:30 central / 8:30 eastern.)

However, due to the interuptions of our chats, this time the room will be a
"private" chat. To enter it, click on "enter a private chat" and then type in
the name of the room (which will be Planet of the Apes).

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.htmlDid this room enter the level of the humans in Planet of the Apes / Beneath??

It is way too quiet in here.As Zira would tell you "Go on, speak again."

I realize a lot of you are probably getting primed for Friday night, and
thats fine.But lets not forget the postings.<.html

.htmlMan, I know I did some "yelling" as to what I think is 'real' Apes and what
isn't...But I will say, this has to be one of THE BIGGEST misuses of the Apes
name I have ever seen. If this is an Apes item, then I really know that the
Apes name is on the way to hell in a handbasket.

Check this thing out and see if you don't agree with me. I'm sure even those
that disagreed with me in the past will have to say I'm right in this
case.This item should "hang for high treason": eBay item 1169648881 (Ends
Jul-28-01 16:30:45 PDT ) - Pink Panther "PLANET OF THE APES" Prod CEL

I just hope they know they aren't going to fool anyone by saying this is
Apes. If they do,then there really are some very gullible people out there.<.html

.html

----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 8:51 PM

Subject: [pota] Mute??

Did this room enter the level of the humans in Planet of the Apes / Beneath??

It is way too quiet in here.As Zira would tell you "Go on, speak again."

I realize a lot of you are probably getting primed for Friday night, and
thats fine.But lets not forget the postings.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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> Man, I know I did some "yelling" as to what I think is 'real' Apes

and what

> I just hope they know they aren't going to fool anyone by saying

this is

> Apes. If they do,then there really are some very gullible people

out there.

Wow.. That's really pushing it. A Pink Panther cel listed
under 'Planet of the Apes'. We all know that seller did that just to
bring attention to his item.. very inappropriately..

-Syrena

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----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 9:09 PM

Subject: [pota] If this is what is going to pass as an Apes item.....

Man, I know I did some "yelling" as to what I think is 'real' Apes and what
isn't...But I will say, this has to be one of THE BIGGEST misuses of the Apes
name I have ever seen. If this is an Apes item, then I really know that the
Apes name is on the way to hell in a handbasket.

Check this thing out and see if you don't agree with me. I'm sure even those
that disagreed with me in the past will have to say I'm right in this
case.This item should "hang for high treason": eBay item 1169648881 (Ends
Jul-28-01 16:30:45 PDT ) - Pink Panther "PLANET OF THE APES" Prod CEL

I just hope they know they aren't going to fool anyone by saying this is
Apes. If they do,then there really are some very gullible people out there.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

<.html

.html

----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 9:09 PM

Subject: [pota] If this is what is going to pass as an Apes item.....

Man, I know I did some "yelling" as to what I think is 'real' Apes and what
isn't...But I will say, this has to be one of THE BIGGEST misuses of the Apes
name I have ever seen. If this is an Apes item, then I really know that the
Apes name is on the way to hell in a handbasket.

Check this thing out and see if you don't agree with me. I'm sure even those
that disagreed with me in the past will have to say I'm right in this
case.This item should "hang for high treason": eBay item 1169648881 (Ends
Jul-28-01 16:30:45 PDT ) - Pink Panther "PLANET OF THE APES" Prod CEL

I just hope they know they aren't going to fool anyone by saying this is
Apes. If they do,then there really are some very gullible people out there.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

<.html

Well, my friends at Fox remember me AND my obsession and have invited me
to their staff screening on Wednesday night. I promise no spoilers and
will refrain from voicing my opinion until others in the group have seen
it. One thing I will tell you though.....the suspense is killing me!!
Best,
KEN

.html OooBoy.  They're packed away in boxes from 11 years ago.  I'll have to dig them out for everyone after the nuttiness of the coming week subsides.

B

syrena@... wrote:

>The three designs I did were of a
> Baboon, Mandrill, and a Gibbon.

Do you have your designs online? I'm a (curious) illustrator who
enjoys drawing the pota characters and I'd love to see any other
artist's renditions online. Any links would be great.

Well I'm assuming your designs are illustrations. If I'm totally off
track here it's because I just joined this list. ;)

Thanks,

-Syrena
 
 

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