.htmlIn a message dated 8/11/01 11:05:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
kurt.martin@... writes:

I found a photo still gallery with an extra right
click at the bottom of the bonus materials menu.

Any others ?

Kurt

Yeah, that's the only one I found, too, and of course there weren't that many
stills.

-- Rory<.html

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 8:49 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] "Behind" Special Edition DVD

In a message dated 8/10/01 10:58:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, slave1@...
writes:

I like the fact that he said he was surprised no sequels had come out in
thirty years.

When the idea of a re-make was brought up, he said that idea was stupid and
there was nothing wrong with the original.  If anything they should
re-release that for the big screen.

Remake stupid?  You had that pegged right Roddy!

He sure did.   And he was so right when he talked about how unbelivable it
was that Fox hadn't restored the original and re-released it to theatres.   
Back in 1998 that's EXACTLY what they should have done.  Jeff Krueger saw the
restored print at the one anniversary showing they had for it in L.A. and. .
. well you tell them, Jeff.

But the point is that if Fox had made up a new ad campaign telling people
PLANET was back on the big screen, and made up some really cool TV
commercials, I'll bet PLANET would have made at least another $20 to $30
million in North America, maybe more!  Think of all the parents that saw it
as kids who would have brought their kids.  Everyone would have seen a better
movie than what they got with the 're-imaging' and Fox wouldn't have had to
spend $100 million!

-- Rory
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.htmlIn a message dated 8/11/01 11:26:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
apeman@... writes:

There were Gorillas on the ship, that we never saw.  Howard Berger, of KNB
Effects Group, actually wore one of the mountain gorilla suits and was
filmed (and credited on screen right above Rick Baker's acting credit).  So
they were there, just got cut out like most of the scenes that maybe could
have explained the dang film. B

Dang film?   Do I take it you didn't care for it much, Brian?  We have yet to
hear your opinion, I believe.

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 8/11/01 11:28:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

But what were you trying to say with your dump, Rory? It's in and out of
there so fast it doesn't commit to a relationship either.

                                                                     - - -
- Jeff
                                                                      "the
Dumpmeister"



I'm planning on having Eric Greene 'anal'lize it!

-- Rory<.html

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 9:07 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Dr

In a message dated 8/11/01 12:06:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
locutusatwolf359@... writes:

Once again we get sent this virus!!!! The hackers must love us!!!

Loc

Yeah, I deleted that fast.

Rory
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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 9:39 PM

Subject: [pota] Check out A Leader in Planet of the Apes Information

Click here: A Leader in Planet of the Apes Information

Here's one POTA site confirming the November 27th release date of the DVD.

-- Rory
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.htmlIn a message dated 8/11/01 11:50:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Yeah, I saw the restored original at the 30th party and then last year at
the Egyptian. It was awesome.

                                                                          
- - - Murray the K



I know you said the crowd at the 30th was mostly older people, what about at
The Egyptian (also the title of a Fox film Leon Shamroy shot)?   What was the
size of the crowd and how was their reaction to this old, cheesy, camp film?  
(Which is probably what the Ivy League execs at Fox think of it as, the
bastards.)

-- Rory<.html

a) Baker has said in interviews his character smokes a hookah, a kind of
pipe (but what was he smoking when he designed Ari?)

b) Baker wanted to go ape but because of time constraints he only did the 3
kinds of apes

c) It's one of many lame monkey jokes

- -
- - Jeff K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 4:31 AM
Subject: RE: [pota] Nova


> And what was that Rick Baker was smoking by the way?
>
> Did anyone notice any apes other than Chimps, Orangs and Gorillas? Ie
were
> there any monkeys?
>
> If not, how could they refer to monkeys as lower down the evolutionary
> chain?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2001 4:19
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pota] Nova
>
> I didn't see her get branded. The only one I remember was Estella Warren
> (which I thought was a pretty good scene). Linda's in the wagon. Wahlberg
> asks where they are, she shakes her head and moves away. She's easier to
> spot in the trailer. Also there's a good shot of Rick Baker smoking as the
> wagon goes by. And the very first ape face we see, in both the trailer and
> the movie (the one going "Rrrrar!", full face) is Terry Notary, who taught
> them how to move like apes. Doesn't make sense for them to do a closeup of
> an ape movement expert but he's probably used elsewhere as well.
>
>
> - - - - Jeff K.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben" <averyb@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 10:06 AM
> Subject: [pota] Nova
>
>
> > I said this earlier, but never got a confirmation from anyone.
> >
> > I did not see Nova in the cage wagon. I thought she was one of the
> > people that got branded, though. Was she or wasn't she? Sure looked
> > like her to me, but I've been wrong before . . .
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
> >
>
>
>
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From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:57 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] "Behind" Special Edition DVD

In a message dated 8/11/01 11:50:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Yeah, I saw the restored original at the 30th party and then last year at
the Egyptian. It was awesome.

                                                                          
- - - Murray the K

I know you said the crowd at the 30th was mostly older people, what about at
The Egyptian (also the title of a Fox film Leon Shamroy shot)?   What was the
size of the crowd and how was their reaction to this old, cheesy, camp film?  
(Which is probably what the Ivy League execs at Fox think of it as, the
bastards.)

-- Rory
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Haristas@... wrote:

Dang film?   Do I take it you didn't care for it much, Brian?  We have yet to
hear your opinion, I believe.

-- Rory

Well, it's pretty much already been said by everyone else, over and over and over, so I won't re-hash it all again.

I was very disappointed, needless to say.  With all  we have learned (regarding writing and movie making) in 30 years since the original, I expected more.  Much more.

Rick's work was, of course, excellent, and eventhough they had an unrealistic build time, his studio came still through.  I feel Ari is not his fault.  I believe it was Burton's traditional attempt to get at least one character with a pale face, dark eyes,  and ratty hair (ala: Vincent, Beetlejuice, Scissorhands, Penguin, Chris Walken's headless horseman in Sleepy Hollow, etc., etc., etc.).  You know, his running theme of an anemic character that is "on-the-outside" and misunderstood by everyone.

I haven't jumped in on any of these webgroup convos, because it is a sore spot with me.  I go to the movies to escape and be entertained.  It bothers me to no end when I find myself rewriting every friggin scene with better choices while I'm watching a film.

I'll put this one on my list of "films that owe me time", so when I'm on my death bed, my last gasping breath will be the phone call to them demanding, "YOU OWE ME 90 Minutes FOR PLANET OF THE APES 2001, I WANT THEM BACK  NOW!!!"  In the meantime, I'm still trying to get the stink out of my clothes, hair, eyes, ears, and mouth.

I do hope it does well and inspires a sequel, though.  Good or bad, it's helping to keep the ape saga alive!!!

There,  I've said my piece.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 10:55 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

 

Haristas@... wrote:

Dang film?   Do I take it you didn't care for it much, Brian?  We have yet to
hear your opinion, I believe.

-- Rory

Well, it's pretty much already been said by everyone else, over and over and over, so I won't re-hash it all again.

I was very disappointed, needless to say.  With all  we have learned (regarding writing and movie making) in 30 years since the original, I expected more.  Much more.

Rick's work was, of course, excellent, and eventhough they had an unrealistic build time, his studio came still through.  I feel Ari is not his fault.  I believe it was Burton's traditional attempt to get at least one character with a pale face, dark eyes,  and ratty hair (ala: Vincent, Beetlejuice, Scissorhands, Penguin, Chris Walken's headless horseman in Sleepy Hollow, etc., etc., etc.).  You know, his running theme of an anemic character that is "on-the-outside" and misunderstood by everyone.

I haven't jumped in on any of these webgroup convos, because it is a sore spot with me.  I go to the movies to escape and be entertained.  It bothers me to no end when I find myself rewriting every friggin scene with better choices while I'm watching a film.

I'll put this one on my list of "films that owe me time", so when I'm on my death bed, my last gasping breath will be the phone call to them demanding, "YOU OWE ME 90 Minutes FOR PLANET OF THE APES 2001, I WANT THEM BACK  NOW!!!"  In the meantime, I'm still trying to get the stink out of my clothes, hair, eyes, ears, and mouth.

I do hope it does well and inspires a sequel, though.  Good or bad, it's helping to keep the ape saga alive!!!

There,  I've said my piece.

Brian

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.html Yeah, especially the "YOU OWE ME 90 MINUTES" of my life line!

B

Jack Krueger wrote:

    Great review, Brian! It'll be on the ads next week I'm sure.                                                                                 - - - Jeff K.

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Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 10:55 AM

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Haristas@... wrote:

Dang film?   Do I take it you didn't care for it much, Brian?  We have yet to
hear your opinion, I believe.

-- Rory

Well, it's pretty much already been said by everyone else, over and over and over, so I won't re-hash it all again.

I was very disappointed, needless to say.  With all  we have learned (regarding writing and movie making) in 30 years since the original, I expected more.  Much more.

Rick's work was, of course, excellent, and eventhough they had an unrealistic build time, his studio came still through.  I feel Ari is not his fault.  I believe it was Burton's traditional attempt to get at least one character with a pale face, dark eyes,  and ratty hair (ala: Vincent, Beetlejuice, Scissorhands, Penguin, Chris Walken's headless horseman in Sleepy Hollow, etc., etc., etc.).  You know, his running theme of an anemic character that is "on-the-outside" and misunderstood by everyone.

I haven't jumped in on any of these webgroup convos, because it is a sore spot with me.  I go to the movies to escape and be entertained.  It bothers me to no end when I find myself rewriting every friggin scene with better choices while I'm watching a film.

I'll put this one on my list of "films that owe me time", so when I'm on my death bed, my last gasping breath will be the phone call to them demanding, "YOU OWE ME 90 Minutes FOR PLANET OF THE APES 2001, I WANT THEM BACK  NOW!!!"  In the meantime, I'm still trying to get the stink out of my clothes, hair, eyes, ears, and mouth.

I do hope it does well and inspires a sequel, though.  Good or bad, it's helping to keep the ape saga alive!!!

There,  I've said my piece.

Brian
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.htmlIn a message dated 8/11/01 2:17:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
apeman@... writes:

There,  I've said my piece. Brian

Very well said.   This movie simply wasn't made for the APES fans, unless all
they thought they needed to throw us was a few lame references to the old
fims.  From the reviews I'm reading on the Internet Movie Database -- and
there are over 500! -- 90% are not just negative, but angry.

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.htmlIn a message dated 8/11/01 3:36:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
apeman@... writes:

Yeah, especially the "YOU OWE ME 90 MINUTES" of my life line! B

Unfortunately it's two hours!   Damn, dang thing has a longer running time
than the original, and half the story!

Well, at least Alex likes it, and has seen it HOW MANY TIMES?!!!

Becareful Alex, it may be a plot by Dr. Zaius on the planet Soror, to
lobotomize the human population.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 12:39 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

Yeah, especially the "YOU OWE ME 90 MINUTES" of my life line!

B

Jack Krueger wrote:

    Great review, Brian! It'll be on the ads next week I'm sure.                                                                                 - - - Jeff K.

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 10:55 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

Haristas@... wrote:

Dang film?   Do I take it you didn't care for it much, Brian?  We have yet to
hear your opinion, I believe.

-- Rory

Well, it's pretty much already been said by everyone else, over and over and over, so I won't re-hash it all again.

I was very disappointed, needless to say.  With all  we have learned (regarding writing and movie making) in 30 years since the original, I expected more.  Much more.

Rick's work was, of course, excellent, and eventhough they had an unrealistic build time, his studio came still through.  I feel Ari is not his fault.  I believe it was Burton's traditional attempt to get at least one character with a pale face, dark eyes,  and ratty hair (ala: Vincent, Beetlejuice, Scissorhands, Penguin, Chris Walken's headless horseman in Sleepy Hollow, etc., etc., etc.).  You know, his running theme of an anemic character that is "on-the-outside" and misunderstood by everyone.

I haven't jumped in on any of these webgroup convos, because it is a sore spot with me.  I go to the movies to escape and be entertained.  It bothers me to no end when I find myself rewriting every friggin scene with better choices while I'm watching a film.

I'll put this one on my list of "films that owe me time", so when I'm on my death bed, my last gasping breath will be the phone call to them demanding, "YOU OWE ME 90 Minutes FOR PLANET OF THE APES 2001, I WANT THEM BACK  NOW!!!"  In the meantime, I'm still trying to get the stink out of my clothes, hair, eyes, ears, and mouth.

I do hope it does well and inspires a sequel, though.  Good or bad, it's helping to keep the ape saga alive!!!

There,  I've said my piece.

Brian

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 12:57 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

In a message dated 8/11/01 3:36:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
apeman@... writes:

Yeah, especially the "YOU OWE ME 90 MINUTES" of my life line! B

Unfortunately it's two hours!   Damn, dang thing has a longer running time
than the original, and half the story!

Well, at least Alex likes it, and has seen it HOW MANY TIMES?!!!

Becareful Alex, it may be a plot by Dr. Zaius on the planet Soror, to
lobotomize the human population.

-- Rory

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In a message dated 08/11/2001 4:10:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< And more good things could come if there's a sequel. "Star Wars" and
"Star Trek" fans keep it going despite weak entries, why not us. >>

Well, you do have a point there. Would you believe that I really like "Star
Trek: The Motion Picture" and am looking forward to the director's cut DVD
coming out? It's true!!!

-- Rory

I liked it too. Better than the one everybody likes, #4 with the whales.

Off topic? I think not! John Chambers designed Mr. Spock's ears.

- -
- - Jeff K.

----- Original Message -----
From: <Haristas@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)


> In a message dated 08/11/2001 4:10:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> williejoe@... writes:
>
> << And more good things could come if there's a sequel. "Star Wars" and
> "Star Trek" fans keep it going despite weak entries, why not us. >>
>
> Well, you do have a point there. Would you believe that I really like
"Star
> Trek: The Motion Picture" and am looking forward to the director's cut DVD
> coming out? It's true!!!
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>

.html Just think how APEMANIA feels when we're doing a gig and people make comments like "I liked you guy's version better" or the new film "SUCKED!!!"  We still have to smile and keep things positive.  Our best line is Zaius', "Ahh Yes.  It was amusing,  Humans acting like apes!"

B

Jack Krueger wrote:

   No, they'll just put line "Rick Baker's makeup was excellent!" or maybe "I loved that ending!" (you and Roger Ebert have a lot in common).  But I agree we have to hope for it. If it wasn't for this remake, the documentary probably wouldn't have been made, nor the new DVD of it, Joe's book wouldn't have been published (after 15 years), etc. etc. And more good things could come if there's a sequel. "Star Wars" and "Star Trek" fans keep it going despite weak entries, why not us.  So when your friends ask what you thought of the movie, say , "No comment".                                                                       - - - - Jeff K.   

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 12:39 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

 Yeah, especially the "YOU OWE ME 90 MINUTES" of my life line!

B

Jack Krueger wrote:

    Great review, Brian! It'll be on the ads next week I'm sure.                                                                                 - - - Jeff K.

----- Original Message -----

From:Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 10:55 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

Haristas@... wrote:

Dang film?   Do I take it you didn't care for it much, Brian?  We have yet to
hear your opinion, I believe.

-- Rory

Well, it's pretty much already been said by everyone else, over and over and over, so I won't re-hash it all again.

I was very disappointed, needless to say.  With all  we have learned (regarding writing and movie making) in 30 years since the original, I expected more.  Much more.

Rick's work was, of course, excellent, and eventhough they had an unrealistic build time, his studio came still through.  I feel Ari is not his fault.  I believe it was Burton's traditional attempt to get at least one character with a pale face, dark eyes,  and ratty hair (ala: Vincent, Beetlejuice, Scissorhands, Penguin, Chris Walken's headless horseman in Sleepy Hollow, etc., etc., etc.).  You know, his running theme of an anemic character that is "on-the-outside" and misunderstood by everyone.

I haven't jumped in on any of these webgroup convos, because it is a sore spot with me.  I go to the movies to escape and be entertained.  It bothers me to no end when I find myself rewriting every friggin scene with better choices while I'm watching a film.

I'll put this one on my list of "films that owe me time", so when I'm on my death bed, my last gasping breath will be the phone call to them demanding, "YOU OWE ME 90 Minutes FOR PLANET OF THE APES 2001, I WANT THEM BACK  NOW!!!"  In the meantime, I'm still trying to get the stink out of my clothes, hair, eyes, ears, and mouth.

I do hope it does well and inspires a sequel, though.  Good or bad, it's helping to keep the ape saga alive!!!

There,  I've said my piece.

Brian
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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 2:08 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

Just think how APEMANIA feels when we're doing a gig and people make comments like "I liked you guy's version better" or the new film "SUCKED!!!"  We still have to smile and keep things positive.  Our best line is Zaius', "Ahh Yes.  It was amusing,  Humans acting like apes!"

B

Jack Krueger wrote:

   No, they'll just put line "Rick Baker's makeup was excellent!" or maybe "I loved that ending!" (you and Roger Ebert have a lot in common).  But I agree we have to hope for it. If it wasn't for this remake, the documentary probably wouldn't have been made, nor the new DVD of it, Joe's book wouldn't have been published (after 15 years), etc. etc. And more good things could come if there's a sequel. "Star Wars" and "Star Trek" fans keep it going despite weak entries, why not us.  So when your friends ask what you thought of the movie, say , "No comment".                                                                       - - - - Jeff K.   

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 12:39 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

 Yeah, especially the "YOU OWE ME 90 MINUTES" of my life line!

B

Jack Krueger wrote:

    Great review, Brian! It'll be on the ads next week I'm sure.                                                                                 - - - Jeff K.

----- Original Message -----

From:Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 10:55 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

Haristas@... wrote:

Dang film?   Do I take it you didn't care for it much, Brian?  We have yet to
hear your opinion, I believe.

-- Rory

Well, it's pretty much already been said by everyone else, over and over and over, so I won't re-hash it all again.

I was very disappointed, needless to say.  With all  we have learned (regarding writing and movie making) in 30 years since the original, I expected more.  Much more.

Rick's work was, of course, excellent, and eventhough they had an unrealistic build time, his studio came still through.  I feel Ari is not his fault.  I believe it was Burton's traditional attempt to get at least one character with a pale face, dark eyes,  and ratty hair (ala: Vincent, Beetlejuice, Scissorhands, Penguin, Chris Walken's headless horseman in Sleepy Hollow, etc., etc., etc.).  You know, his running theme of an anemic character that is "on-the-outside" and misunderstood by everyone.

I haven't jumped in on any of these webgroup convos, because it is a sore spot with me.  I go to the movies to escape and be entertained.  It bothers me to no end when I find myself rewriting every friggin scene with better choices while I'm watching a film.

I'll put this one on my list of "films that owe me time", so when I'm on my death bed, my last gasping breath will be the phone call to them demanding, "YOU OWE ME 90 Minutes FOR PLANET OF THE APES 2001, I WANT THEM BACK  NOW!!!"  In the meantime, I'm still trying to get the stink out of my clothes, hair, eyes, ears, and mouth.

I do hope it does well and inspires a sequel, though.  Good or bad, it's helping to keep the ape saga alive!!!

There,  I've said my piece.

Brian
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In a message dated 08/11/2001 5:06:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
apeman@... writes:

<< Just think how APEMANIA feels when we're doing a gig and people make
comments like "I liked you guy's version better" or the new film
"SUCKED!!!" We still have to smile and keep things positive. Our best
line is Zaius', "Ahh Yes. It was amusing, Humans acting like apes!"

B >>


I can well imagine how you guys (and gals) feel. That was one of the things
that so depressed me after I saw the film -- here was something I can't
defend. That's why it's important that APES always have something
sophisticated going on "beneath" the surface -- without a serious allegorical
message, then it is just silly adventures among monkeys. Boulle wrote that
way, the makers of the first film understood it (pretty much), the sequels
unevenly got it, even the TV show tried to say something important about the
stupidity of racism, but the makers of the new film not only didn't half
understand it (ala Dr. Milo), they weren't even trying very hard.

When you get to the point in the movie where the two gorillas finally face
each other and the first thing they do is fly in the air and slam into one
another, well you've gotten as from Boulle as the earth is from Orion's belt.

-- Rory

I wonder how Linda Harrison is doing. She faces fans regularly and her
ex-husband produced it ("You tell that ***@@#!!!.."). And then they say to
her ,"Where were you, I didn't see
- - - - Jeff K.

----- Original Message -----
From: <Haristas@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)


> In a message dated 08/11/2001 5:06:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> apeman@... writes:
>
> << Just think how APEMANIA feels when we're doing a gig and people make
> comments like "I liked you guy's version better" or the new film
> "SUCKED!!!" We still have to smile and keep things positive. Our best
> line is Zaius', "Ahh Yes. It was amusing, Humans acting like apes!"
>
> B >>
>
>
> I can well imagine how you guys (and gals) feel. That was one of the
things
> that so depressed me after I saw the film -- here was something I can't
> defend. That's why it's important that APES always have something
> sophisticated going on "beneath" the surface -- without a serious
allegorical
> message, then it is just silly adventures among monkeys. Boulle wrote
that
> way, the makers of the first film understood it (pretty much), the sequels
> unevenly got it, even the TV show tried to say something important about
the
> stupidity of racism, but the makers of the new film not only didn't half
> understand it (ala Dr. Milo), they weren't even trying very hard.
>
> When you get to the point in the movie where the two gorillas finally face
> each other and the first thing they do is fly in the air and slam into one
> another, well you've gotten as from Boulle as the earth is from Orion's
belt.
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> -- Rory
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-----Original Message-----
From: Staci [foxybabe07@...]
Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2001 1:25
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

maybe they were native?? lol but they said it was an inhabited planet

From: "Shelby Rhodes" <slave1@...>
Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 09:50:25 -0400
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

Well, I was willing to suspend my disbelief to the point of thinking there
were gorillas, tying in to the research and all, and they were there we just
didn't see them.

I can't imagine why they'd have horses on board however, nor do I believe it
crossed the writers' minds.

I brought the horse thing up to a couple of friends who saw the film too and
they just started laughing.


> Should read:
>
> They were on the floor below the Gorillas (did you see ANY gorillas on the
> ship?).
>
> There were no gorillas in the cages.  Nor were there any horses.  So I
guess
> there were parts of the ship we missed seeing.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shelby Rhodes [slave1@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2001 23:43
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)
>
> Ant gorillas?  Sorry, I don't get the joke.
>
>
> > They were on the floor below the Gorillas (did you see ant gorillas on
the
> > ship?).
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shelby Rhodes [slave1@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2001 21:53
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [pota] Nova
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> > I still just want to know where the damn horses came from.
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> > > And what was that Rick Baker was smoking by the way?
> > >
> > > Did anyone notice any apes other than Chimps, Orangs and Gorillas?  Ie
> > were
> > > there any monkeys?
> > >
> > > If not, how could they refer to monkeys as lower down the evolutionary
> > > chain?
> > >
> > > Michael
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2001 4:19
> > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [pota] Nova
> > >
> > >  I didn't see her get branded. The only one I remember was Estella
> Warren
> > > (which I thought was a pretty good scene). Linda's in the wagon.
> Wahlberg
> > > asks where they are, she shakes her head and moves away. She's easier
to
> > > spot in the trailer. Also there's a good shot of Rick Baker smoking as
> the
> > > wagon goes by. And the very first ape face we see, in both the trailer
> and
> > > the movie (the one going "Rrrrar!", full face) is Terry Notary, who
> taught
> > > them how to move like apes. Doesn't make sense for them to do a
closeup
> of
> > > an ape movement expert but he's probably used elsewhere as well.
> > >
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> > > From: "Ben" <averyb@...>
> > > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 10:06 AM
> > > Subject: [pota] Nova
> > >
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> > > > I said this earlier, but never got a confirmation from anyone.
> > > >
> > > > I did not see Nova in the cage wagon.  I thought she was one of the
> > > > people that got branded, though.  Was she or wasn't she?  Sure
looked
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian [apeman@...]
Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2001 1:29
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

There were Gorillas on the ship, that we never saw.  Howard Berger, of KNB Effects Group, actually wore one of the mountain gorilla suits and was filmed (and credited on screen right above Rick Baker's acting credit).  So they were there, just got cut out like most of the scenes that maybe could have explained the dang film.

B

Michael Whitty wrote:

Should read:

They were on the floor below the Gorillas (did you see ANY gorillas on the
ship?).

There were no gorillas in the cages.  Nor were there any horses.  So I guess
there were parts of the ship we missed seeing.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From:   Shelby Rhodes [mailto:slave1@...]
Sent:   Saturday, 11 August 2001 23:43
To:     pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject:        Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

Ant gorillas?  Sorry, I don't get the joke.

> They were on the floor below the Gorillas (did you see ant gorillas on the
> ship?).
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shelby Rhodes [mailto:slave1@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2001 21:53
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pota] Nova
>
> I still just want to know where the damn horses came from.
>
>
> > And what was that Rick Baker was smoking by the way?
> >
> > Did anyone notice any apes other than Chimps, Orangs and Gorillas?  Ie
> were
> > there any monkeys?
> >
> > If not, how could they refer to monkeys as lower down the evolutionary
> > chain?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2001 4:19
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [pota] Nova
> >
> >  I didn't see her get branded. The only one I remember was Estella
Warren
> > (which I thought was a pretty good scene). Linda's in the wagon.
Wahlberg
> > asks where they are, she shakes her head and moves away. She's easier to
> > spot in the trailer. Also there's a good shot of Rick Baker smoking as
the
> > wagon goes by. And the very first ape face we see, in both the trailer
and
> > the movie (the one going "Rrrrar!", full face) is Terry Notary, who
taught
> > them how to move like apes. Doesn't make sense for them to do a closeup
of
> > an ape movement expert but he's probably used elsewhere as well.
> >
> >
> >   - - - - Jeff K.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ben" <averyb@...>
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 10:06 AM
> > Subject: [pota] Nova
> >
> >
> > > I said this earlier, but never got a confirmation from anyone.
> > >
> > > I did not see Nova in the cage wagon.  I thought she was one of the
> > > people that got branded, though.  Was she or wasn't she?  Sure looked
> > > like her to me, but I've been wrong before . . .
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-----Original Message-----
From: Staci [foxybabe07@...]
Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2001 1:39
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Dr (spoiler)

that was a VIRUS???  eek!  what kind of virus??  what's weird is i have my outlook set to partially receive messages over 40K and when i saw that message i deleted it before receiving the rest of it cause i had a feeling it was something no good... although i have a mac and most viruses don't work on it :)  btw i saw pota again last night i noticed a lot more things!  at the beginning i noticed that when the captain of the oberaun (name of the big ship right?) was looking at the screen after cptn. leo went after his chimp there was a staticy transmission on his screen that was saying "mayday mayday!" ... it didn't look like captain leo though who was it???  was it the captain himself saying mayday mayday in the future because the storm was transmitting things back from all time???  hmmm.

From: locutusatwolf359@...
Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:06:32 EDT
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Dr

Once again we get sent this virus!!!! The hackers must love us!!!

Loc


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<< Hi! How are you?

I send you this file in order to have your advice

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From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 5:53 PM

Subject: [pota] More Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

Maybe they are a result of in-breeding (unless there were a LOT more humans on that ship, they sure did inter-breed).

 

That would explain ho the humans got less intelligent.....but if Semos killed all the humans, where did the humans come from?

 

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Staci [foxybabe07@...]
Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2001 1:25
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

maybe they were native?? lol but they said it was an inhabited planet

From: "Shelby Rhodes" <slave1@...>
Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 09:50:25 -0400
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

Well, I was willing to suspend my disbelief to the point of thinking there
were gorillas, tying in to the research and all, and they were there we just
didn't see them.

I can't imagine why they'd have horses on board however, nor do I believe it
crossed the writers' minds.

I brought the horse thing up to a couple of friends who saw the film too and
they just started laughing.


> Should read:
>
> They were on the floor below the Gorillas (did you see ANY gorillas on the
> ship?).
>
> There were no gorillas in the cages.  Nor were there any horses.  So I
guess
> there were parts of the ship we missed seeing.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shelby Rhodes [slave1@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2001 23:43
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)
>
> Ant gorillas?  Sorry, I don't get the joke.
>
>
> > They were on the floor below the Gorillas (did you see ant gorillas on
the
> > ship?).
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shelby Rhodes [slave1@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2001 21:53
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [pota] Nova
> >
> > I still just want to know where the damn horses came from.
> >
> >
> > > And what was that Rick Baker was smoking by the way?
> > >
> > > Did anyone notice any apes other than Chimps, Orangs and Gorillas?  Ie
> > were
> > > there any monkeys?
> > >
> > > If not, how could they refer to monkeys as lower down the evolutionary
> > > chain?
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2001 4:19
> > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [pota] Nova
> > >
> > >  I didn't see her get branded. The only one I remember was Estella
> Warren
> > > (which I thought was a pretty good scene). Linda's in the wagon.
> Wahlberg
> > > asks where they are, she shakes her head and moves away. She's easier
to
> > > spot in the trailer. Also there's a good shot of Rick Baker smoking as
> the
> > > wagon goes by. And the very first ape face we see, in both the trailer
> and
> > > the movie (the one going "Rrrrar!", full face) is Terry Notary, who
> taught
> > > them how to move like apes. Doesn't make sense for them to do a
closeup
> of
> > > an ape movement expert but he's probably used elsewhere as well.
> > >
> > >
> > >   - - - - Jeff K.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ben" <averyb@...>
> > > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 10:06 AM
> > > Subject: [pota] Nova
> > >
> > >
> > > > I said this earlier, but never got a confirmation from anyone.
> > > >
> > > > I did not see Nova in the cage wagon.  I thought she was one of the
> > > > people that got branded, though.  Was she or wasn't she?  Sure
looked
> > > > like her to me, but I've been wrong before . . .
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-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2001 1:39
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] "Behind" Special Edition DVD DELETED SCENES?????

In a message dated 8/11/01 9:34:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

So Rory

Are there any DELETED scenes?

Michael

Unfortunately there are no deleted scenes, however there are shots you never
saw in PLANET, including a great crane shot that was cut from the hunt, and
in one of the featurettes there's Heston saying some lines while he's in the
cage with Nova (just before getting 'hosed') that were cut from the final
edit.   Lots of cool stuff like that.  In the outakes and dallies you'll also
be able to see on what dates in 1967 certain scenes were shot.

Maybe in a couple of years Fox will give us a Five Star DVD of PLANET that
will include more (then again maybe monkeys will fly out of my butt!).

-- Rory
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-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2001 1:43
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

In a message dated 8/11/01 9:42:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

Should read:

They were on the floor below the Gorillas (did you see ANY gorillas on the
ship?).

There were no gorillas in the cages.  Nor were there any horses.  So I guess
there were parts of the ship we missed seeing.

Michael

Okay, the ship contained all sorts of DNA samples of various species and
after it crashed on the planet they started breeding these things.   Why?  I
don't know.   Oh, and actually the horses could talk, too, only they had
nothing to say (of course, of course).

-- Rory

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we can rule out tobacco from the Cheech and Chong expression on his face
after toking!).

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2001 2:13
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Nova

a) Baker has said in interviews his character smokes a hookah, a kind of
pipe (but what was he smoking when he designed Ari?)

b) Baker wanted to go ape but because of time constraints he only did the 3
kinds of apes

c) It's one of many lame monkey jokes

- -
- - Jeff K.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2001 5:13
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

   Great review, Brian! It'll be on the ads next week I'm sure.

 

                                                                                - - - Jeff K.

 

 

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From: Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 10:55 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

 

Haristas@... wrote:

Dang film?   Do I take it you didn't care for it much, Brian?  We have yet to
hear your opinion, I believe.

-- Rory

Well, it's pretty much already been said by everyone else, over and over and over, so I won't re-hash it all again.

I was very disappointed, needless to say.  With all  we have learned (regarding writing and movie making) in 30 years since the original, I expected more.  Much more.

Rick's work was, of course, excellent, and eventhough they had an unrealistic build time, his studio came still through.  I feel Ari is not his fault.  I believe it was Burton's traditional attempt to get at least one character with a pale face, dark eyes,  and ratty hair (ala: Vincent, Beetlejuice, Scissorhands, Penguin, Chris Walken's headless horseman in Sleepy Hollow, etc., etc., etc.).  You know, his running theme of an anemic character that is "on-the-outside" and misunderstood by everyone.

I haven't jumped in on any of these webgroup convos, because it is a sore spot with me.  I go to the movies to escape and be entertained.  It bothers me to no end when I find myself rewriting every friggin scene with better choices while I'm watching a film.

I'll put this one on my list of "films that owe me time", so when I'm on my death bed, my last gasping breath will be the phone call to them demanding, "YOU OWE ME 90 Minutes FOR PLANET OF THE APES 2001, I WANT THEM BACK  NOW!!!"  In the meantime, I'm still trying to get the stink out of my clothes, hair, eyes, ears, and mouth.

I do hope it does well and inspires a sequel, though.  Good or bad, it's helping to keep the ape saga alive!!!

There,  I've said my piece.

Brian
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-- Rory
 

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At least Star Trek makes you think - I like all things Star Trek too (but
not fanatically).

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2001 6:36
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

In a message dated 08/11/2001 4:10:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< And more good things could come if there's a sequel. "Star Wars" and
"Star Trek" fans keep it going despite weak entries, why not us. >>

Well, you do have a point there. Would you believe that I really like "Star
Trek: The Motion Picture" and am looking forward to the director's cut DVD
coming out? It's true!!!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Shelby Rhodes [slave1@...]
Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2001 8:18
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] More Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

When did they say Semos killed  ALL the humans?  I assumed they maimed and mutilated and left them to die and or that some got away.

 

 

BTW, I continue also to ask why the humans didn't just shoot the apes when they began to go amok.  How smart were these scientists anyway that they passively allowed the simians to whip them into submission? 

 

 

 

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From: Shelby Rhodes

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 3:18 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] More Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

When did they say Semos killed  ALL the humans?  I assumed they maimed and mutilated and left them to die and or that some got away.

 

 

BTW, I continue also to ask why the humans didn't just shoot the apes when they began to go amok.  How smart were these scientists anyway that they passively allowed the simians to whip them into submission? 

 

 

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 5:53 PM

Subject: [pota] More Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

Maybe they are a result of in-breeding (unless there were a LOT more humans on that ship, they sure did inter-breed).

 

That would explain ho the humans got less intelligent.....but if Semos killed all the humans, where did the humans come from?

 

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Staci [foxybabe07@...]
Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2001 1:25
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

maybe they were native?? lol but they said it was an inhabited planet

From: "Shelby Rhodes" <slave1@...>
Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 09:50:25 -0400
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

Well, I was willing to suspend my disbelief to the point of thinking there
were gorillas, tying in to the research and all, and they were there we just
didn't see them.

I can't imagine why they'd have horses on board however, nor do I believe it
crossed the writers' minds.

I brought the horse thing up to a couple of friends who saw the film too and
they just started laughing.


> Should read:
>
> They were on the floor below the Gorillas (did you see ANY gorillas on the
> ship?).
>
> There were no gorillas in the cages.  Nor were there any horses.  So I
guess
> there were parts of the ship we missed seeing.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shelby Rhodes [slave1@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2001 23:43
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)
>
> Ant gorillas?  Sorry, I don't get the joke.
>
>
> > They were on the floor below the Gorillas (did you see ant gorillas on
the
> > ship?).
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shelby Rhodes [slave1@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2001 21:53
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [pota] Nova
> >
> > I still just want to know where the damn horses came from.
> >
> >
> > > And what was that Rick Baker was smoking by the way?
> > >
> > > Did anyone notice any apes other than Chimps, Orangs and Gorillas?  Ie
> > were
> > > there any monkeys?
> > >
> > > If not, how could they refer to monkeys as lower down the evolutionary
> > > chain?
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2001 4:19
> > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [pota] Nova
> > >
> > >  I didn't see her get branded. The only one I remember was Estella
> Warren
> > > (which I thought was a pretty good scene). Linda's in the wagon.
> Wahlberg
> > > asks where they are, she shakes her head and moves away. She's easier
to
> > > spot in the trailer. Also there's a good shot of Rick Baker smoking as
> the
> > > wagon goes by. And the very first ape face we see, in both the trailer
> and
> > > the movie (the one going "Rrrrar!", full face) is Terry Notary, who
> taught
> > > them how to move like apes. Doesn't make sense for them to do a
closeup
> of
> > > an ape movement expert but he's probably used elsewhere as well.
> > >
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> > >   - - - - Jeff K.
> > >
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looked
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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 3:13 PM

Subject: [pota] DVD DELETED SCENES?????

Rory

 

I don''t think Fox even know what they are looking for.

 

That's wht I asked quite some time ago for some help in compiling a master list of deleted scenes that could be sent to Fox so they know there could be things out there (but no one can tell me if they might indeed exist).

 

If you guys are ready to pitch in, I'd still like to compile this list and forward it to our friend at Fox (what is her name again Bryan?).

 

Michael

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.html I just got an email from Amazon advising that my order for "Behind" would be delayed for up to 3 weeks. Dang!!!
KT

Jack Krueger wrote:

  The guy at Fox video who did that online conversation didn't know there was an alternate version of "Conquest" until it was brought to his attention.                                                                            - - - - - Jeff K.  

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 3:13 PM

Subject: [pota] DVD DELETED SCENES?????

 RoryI don''t think Fox even know what they are looking for.That's wht I asked quite some time ago for some help in compiling a master list of deleted scenes that could be sent to Fox so they know there could be things out there (but no one can tell me if they might indeed exist).If you guys are ready to pitch in, I'd still like to compile this list and forward it to our friend at Fox (what is her name again Bryan?).Michael

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In a message dated 8/11/01 8:45:32 AM Central Daylight Time, slave1@...
writes:

<< I can't imagine why they'd have horses on board however, nor do I believe
it
crossed the writers' minds. >>

Perhaps monkey's and horses were the dominate lifeforms on the planet before
the ship crashed. And perhaps all the monkeys were eaten by the chimps. I'd
say that was a fair bet.

.htmlJane at fox Bryan<.html

In a message dated 8/11/01 10:38:50 AM Central Daylight Time,
foxybabe07@... writes:

<< was it
the captain himself saying mayday mayday in the future because the storm was
transmitting things back from all time??? hmmm. >>

That's right. I guess since it had happened already he felt obligated to
rescue himself. But didn't he notice it was him? I mean, didn't look like
his father or couldn't he recognize himself?

In a message dated 8/11/01 10:52:06 AM Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:

<< 'm planning on having Eric Greene 'anal'lize it! >>

You guys crack me up!



T

.htmlRoddy, on a remake was opposed to it ,but i heard him say he would have liked
a sequal that he might consider if a good script was done,The old make up
brought back would be cool to see again.He said that improvements on facial
that could move but the same.Did anyone catch that part on disc 2 interview?<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 8/11/01 6:45:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

The scientists probably gave up hope and were apathetic like in Boulle's
novel. The ship transmissions kinda reminded me of Boulle, where the humans
relate their history under the scalpel (snatches of history).               
              - - - -Jeff K.

And did you catch what other classic Fox sci-fi film made an appearance in
the new POTA during those transmissions?

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 8/11/01 6:46:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

The guy at Fox video who did that online conversation didn't know there was
an alternate version of "Conquest" until it was brought to his attention.

                                                                          
- - - - - Jeff K.



Yeah, and he was kind of fuzzy about "Journey to the Center of the Earth"!!!  
  Who are these guys who work at Fox?   A bunch of bloody baboons?!!!

"Of course!":  Dr. Zaius, PLANET

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 8/11/01 6:55:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kentaylor@... writes:

I just got an email from Amazon advising that my order for "Behind" would be
delayed for up to 3 weeks. Dang!!!
KT

It must be selling well.   GOOD!

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 8/11/01 5:35:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

I wonder how Linda Harrison is doing. She faces fans regularly and her
ex-husband produced it ("You tell that ***@@#!!!.."). And then they say to
her ,"Where were you, I didn't see
     - - - - Jeff K.

She did an on-line chat yesterday at www.planetoftheapesonline.com!!!   
Missed it!!!    I would have liked to have asked her about that pregnancy
scene in the original.  Oh well!!<.html

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----- Original Message -----

From: Ken & Heather Taylor

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 6:59 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] DVD DELETED SCENES?????

I just got an email from Amazon advising that my order for "Behind" would be delayed for up to 3 weeks. Dang!!!
KT

Jack Krueger wrote:

  The guy at Fox video who did that online conversation didn't know there was an alternate version of "Conquest" until it was brought to his attention.                                                                            - - - - - Jeff K.  

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 3:13 PM

Subject: [pota] DVD DELETED SCENES?????

 RoryI don''t think Fox even know what they are looking for.That's wht I asked quite some time ago for some help in compiling a master list of deleted scenes that could be sent to Fox so they know there could be things out there (but no one can tell me if they might indeed exist).If you guys are ready to pitch in, I'd still like to compile this list and forward it to our friend at Fox (what is her name again Bryan?).Michael

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Dang Bri,

It wasn't all that bad.
When you consider all the crap that Hollywood has made in the last couple few
years, it was actually quite good. It wasn't a classic, like the original.
It wasn't even classic Burton! But I guess we all know who we can blame for
that! And I'm not talking about Rick. But it rhymes with it. Dick in name,
dick in nature. Then again, if it wasn't for him none of us would even have
any Apes films to compare it too. Food for thought.




T

In a message dated 8/11/01 2:58:12 PM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:

<< Unfortunately it's two hours! Damn, dang thing has a longer running time
than the original, and half the story! >>

An hour & fifty I believe.
Close but no cigar.

In a message dated 8/11/01 5:21:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< Yeah and they had cows and stuff to slaughter and eat >>

Yeah, but horse burgers?
What is this spacestation?
A flying Dee's restaurant?
Any folks in SLC should appreciate that one.

>
> << Yeah and they had cows and stuff to slaughter and eat >>
>
> Yeah, but horse burgers?

Maybe belowdecks they had a whole dude ranch where you roped your own
cattle. Yep, I guess spacestations do need horses.

Hmmm, would that make Leo a space cowboy?

Did anyone tape Paul Giamatti on Conan O'Brian?
How about any of the other stars on the other chat shows?
I'd be happy to trade a tape of the specials for it, or some other
compensation.

I taped the Roddy McDowall and Helena Bonham Carter biography's on A & E and
would be happy to trade for any POTA specials that you may have. I can't
promise how clear they will be since I have interference on my cheap cable
co. but I will test taping portions of it and let you know if anyone is
interested in swapping.

Loc


In a message dated 8/11/01 9:01:36 PM Central Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:

<< Did anyone tape Paul Giamatti on Conan O'Brian?
How about any of the other stars on the other chat shows?
I'd be happy to trade a tape of the specials for it, or some other
compensation.

>>

Now I know I'm replying to my own messages but I also taped the HBO first
look and the Fox special and a portion of dateline that compares the original
makeup to the new stuff. Let me know if anyone is interested in a copy.


Loc


In a message dated 8/11/01 9:17:32 PM Central Daylight Time,
locutusatwolf359@... writes:

<< I taped the Roddy McDowall and Helena Bonham Carter biography's on A & E
and
would be happy to trade for any POTA specials that you may have. I can't
promise how clear they will be since I have interference on my cheap cable
co. but I will test taping portions of it and let you know if anyone is
interested in swapping.

Loc

>>

.htmlIn a message dated 8/11/01 9:20:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

That would explain ho the humans got less intelligent.....but if Semos
killed all the humans, where did the humans come from?

Semos must have kept some for "breeding stock".
<.html

.htmlClick here: Welcome to Digital Eyes DVD - Your home for DVD and the best in
audio!

Here's that Digital Eyes place.  Don't know if they ship to Aussie land.

-- Rory <.html

.htmlIn a message dated 8/11/01 9:40:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:

 Dang Bri,

It wasn't all that bad.
When you consider all the crap that Hollywood has made in the last couple
few
years, it was actually quite good.  It wasn't a classic, like the original.
 
It wasn't even classic Burton!  But I guess we all know who we can blame
for
that!  And I'm not talking about Rick.  But it rhymes with it.  Dick in
name,
dick in nature.  Then again, if it wasn't for him none of us would even
have
any Apes films to compare it too.  Food for thought.




T

I blame it more on nameless Fox executives who don't know DICK about APES!

-- Rory<.html

.html Thanks for the tip guys. I'll check it out.
Best,
KT

Haristas@... wrote:

 Click here: Welcome to Digital Eyes DVD - Your home for DVD and the best in
audio!

Here's that Digital Eyes place.  Don't know if they ship to Aussie land.

-- Rory
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In a message dated 8/11/01 9:21:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
locutusatwolf359@... writes:

<< Now I know I'm replying to my own messages but I also taped the HBO first
look and the Fox special and a portion of dateline that compares the
original
makeup to the new stuff. Let me know if anyone is interested in a copy. >>

Got 'em. I was hoping for talk shows.
Like HB-C on Letterman or Leno.

Hi!

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 9:20 PM
Subject: [pota] Digest Number 609


[snip]

> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 15:48:59 -0700
> From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
> Subject: Re: DVD DELETED SCENES?????
>
> The guy at Fox video who did that online conversation didn't know there

was an alternate version of

> "Conquest" until it was brought to his attention.

Dang! We MUST have this!

Wouldn't it be cool to get the original films out as a mini-fest with this
as a hook?

Any indication that ol' J. Lee would like to re-cut BATTLE?

Best Wishes!
J.

There is a longer "TV version " of "Battle" but I don't know how involved
J. Lee was in it's editing. Perhaps "Battle" isn't a movie he wants to go
back to. But I've heard he's interested in a director's cut of "Conquest".
And, according to Joe Russo's book, he tried to buy the rights from Fox in
the '80's to do a new one for Cannon Films, purveyors of quality like "Rambo
3".

-
- - - Jeff K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "J. Crawford" <jcraw1@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 7:45 AM
Subject: [pota] alt. version of CONQUEST/BATTLE


> Hi!
>
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 9:20 PM
> Subject: [pota] Digest Number 609
>
>
> [snip]
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 15:48:59 -0700
> > From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
> > Subject: Re: DVD DELETED SCENES?????
> >
> > The guy at Fox video who did that online conversation didn't know
there
> was an alternate version of
> > "Conquest" until it was brought to his attention.
>
> Dang! We MUST have this!
>
> Wouldn't it be cool to get the original films out as a mini-fest with this
> as a hook?
>
> Any indication that ol' J. Lee would like to re-cut BATTLE?
>
> Best Wishes!
> J.
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 10:55 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Horse Crap (and Monkey Poo)

 

Haristas@... wrote:

Dang film?   Do I take it you didn't care for it much, Brian?  We have yet to
hear your opinion, I believe.

-- Rory

Well, it's pretty much already been said by everyone else, over and over and over, so I won't re-hash it all again.

I was very disappointed, needless to say.  With all  we have learned (regarding writing and movie making) in 30 years since the original, I expected more.  Much more.

Rick's work was, of course, excellent, and eventhough they had an unrealistic build time, his studio came still through.  I feel Ari is not his fault.  I believe it was Burton's traditional attempt to get at least one character with a pale face, dark eyes,  and ratty hair (ala: Vincent, Beetlejuice, Scissorhands, Penguin, Chris Walken's headless horseman in Sleepy Hollow, etc., etc., etc.).  You know, his running theme of an anemic character that is "on-the-outside" and misunderstood by everyone.

I haven't jumped in on any of these webgroup convos, because it is a sore spot with me.  I go to the movies to escape and be entertained.  It bothers me to no end when I find myself rewriting every friggin scene with better choices while I'm watching a film.

I'll put this one on my list of "films that owe me time", so when I'm on my death bed, my last gasping breath will be the phone call to them demanding, "YOU OWE ME 90 Minutes FOR PLANET OF THE APES 2001, I WANT THEM BACK  NOW!!!"  In the meantime, I'm still trying to get the stink out of my clothes, hair, eyes, ears, and mouth.

I do hope it does well and inspires a sequel, though.  Good or bad, it's helping to keep the ape saga alive!!!

There,  I've said my piece.

Brian

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.htmlWell, it looks like it's gonna be a hard climb to $200 million!

"Planet of the Apes" was number 5 this weekend with only $13.3 million.

I think we can all begin to wonder now if there will be a sequel.

It doesn't look too good.

-- Rory<.html

.htmlI've just read this at Daily Variety.com. . . .

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end up with about $180 million, said an executive at Twentieth Century Fox

And after eight years in development -- that's all she wrote!

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.htmlIn a message dated 8/12/01 5:00:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

Well, it looks like it's gonna be a hard climb to $200 million!

"Planet of the Apes" was number 5 this weekend with only $13.3 million.

I think we can all begin to wonder now if there will be a sequel.

It doesn't look too good.

The magic number is $200 million (world wide) for a sequel.
So it does look very good.

Best,
Al



Well, according to Jeff Krueger, who got it off Movieheadlines.com (and who
knows where they got it), Fox wants "Planet of the Apes" to gross $200
million in just North America before they will greenlight a sequel.

As far as domestic plus worldwide grosses, yes, APES will do far above $200
million.  Then there's the DVD and Video sales and rentals later this year
and into the next.

But I think we're counting our chimps too soon if we're all getting excited
that there will be a sequel in 2003.

It's still 'wait and see' time.

-- Rory<.html

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 1:31 PM

Subject: [pota] To be, or not to be

I've just read this at Daily Variety.com. . . .

Director Tim Burton's POTA has spun $148 million after 17 days, and should
end up with about $180 million, said an executive at Twentieth Century Fox

And after eight years in development -- that's all she wrote!

-- Rory
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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 2:03 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Box office?

Well, it looks like it's gonna be a hard climb to $200 million!

"Planet of the Apes" was number 5 this weekend with only $13.3 million.

I think we can all begin to wonder now if there will be a sequel.

It doesn't look too good.

The magic number is $200 million (world wide) for a sequel.

So it does look very good.

 

Best,

Al

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 2:10 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Box office?

In a message dated 8/12/01 5:00:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

Well, it looks like it's gonna be a hard climb to $200 million!

"Planet of the Apes" was number 5 this weekend with only $13.3 million.

I think we can all begin to wonder now if there will be a sequel.

It doesn't look too good.

The magic number is $200 million (world wide) for a sequel.
So it does look very good.

Best,
Al

Well, according to Jeff Krueger, who got it off Movieheadlines.com (and who
knows where they got it), Fox wants "Planet of the Apes" to gross $200
million in just North America before they will greenlight a sequel.

As far as domestic plus worldwide grosses, yes, APES will do far above $200
million.  Then there's the DVD and Video sales and rentals later this year
and into the next.

But I think we're counting our chimps too soon if we're all getting excited
that there will be a sequel in 2003.

It's still 'wait and see' time.

-- Rory

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.htmlIn a message dated 8/12/01 5:18:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

I read in the new "Toy Shop" that "Shrek" merchandise is getting mixed
results, and that's the top movie of the year. If kids decide the "Ape"
stuff looks cool it might balance out. There's still hope (just please, oh
please, don't pull the plug on the TV show DVDs!).

                                                                           
- - - Jeff K.



Considering the Ari, Deana, and Limbo figures -- I don't know about how
'cool' kids are going to find things.

-- Rory<.html

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
Sent: Monday, 13 August 2001 7:20
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] To be, or not to be

  If it hits $180 million that won't be too bad. They'll consider overseas, DVD, merchandising, etc. And hopefully they'll get it into their thick skulls that the big opening showed people wanted to see it (this wasn't a sequel like "Rush Hour 2", "Mummy Returns", or "MI:2", remeber; the only connection was some ancient movies) . The film dropped the ball.

 

 I read in the new "Toy Shop" that "Shrek" merchandise is getting mixed results, and that's the top movie of the year. If kids decide the "Ape" stuff looks cool it might balance out. There's still hope (just please, oh please, don't pull the plug on the TV show DVDs!).

 

                                                                            - - - Jeff K.

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 1:31 PM

Subject: [pota] To be, or not to be

I've just read this at Daily Variety.com. . . .

Director Tim Burton's POTA has spun $148 million after 17 days, and should
end up with about $180 million, said an executive at Twentieth Century Fox

And after eight years in development -- that's all she wrote!

-- Rory
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
Sent: Monday, 13 August 2001 7:21
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Box office?

 They mean $200 million in North America, Alex.

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 2:03 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Box office?

Well, it looks like it's gonna be a hard climb to $200 million!

"Planet of the Apes" was number 5 this weekend with only $13.3 million.

I think we can all begin to wonder now if there will be a sequel.

It doesn't look too good.

The magic number is $200 million (world wide) for a sequel.

So it does look very good.

 

Best,

Al

 

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.htmlIn a message dated 8/12/01 5:44:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

It's OK Jeff,

If they do pull the plug you can get yourself some of the Aussie videos and
transform them.....hang on, there are none left on the shelves and they
have been deleted...........

Michael


They're not going to pull the plugs on the DVDs.  Fox probably expects
Burton's POTA to be a huge Christmas Video, and the TV series will only help.

Stop teasing Jeff, you mean Aussie!!!

-- Rory<.html

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-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Monday, 13 August 2001 7:40
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] To be, or not to be

In a message dated 8/12/01 5:18:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

I read in the new "Toy Shop" that "Shrek" merchandise is getting mixed
results, and that's the top movie of the year. If kids decide the "Ape"
stuff looks cool it might balance out. There's still hope (just please, oh
please, don't pull the plug on the TV show DVDs!).

                                                                           
- - - Jeff K.

Considering the Ari, Deana, and Limbo figures -- I don't know about how
'cool' kids are going to find things.

-- Rory
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.htmlIn a message dated 8/12/01 5:44:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

Yeah,

That is considered the "WORLD" to a lot of Americans.

Tragic.

Michael


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.htmlIn a message dated 8/12/01 5:46:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

I'm just hoping this will kick off a POTA Saturday morning cartoon.

If it's anything like the dark horse comics of THE HUMAN WARS, I would be
in Cartoon Heaven!

Best,
Al



I'd rather watch a repeat of "Dexter's Lab."

Best,
Rory<.html

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-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Monday, 13 August 2001 7:48
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] WORLD Box office?

In a message dated 8/12/01 5:44:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

Yeah,

That is considered the "WORLD" to a lot of Americans.

Tragic.

Michael

JEALOUS!!!!
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.htmlIn a message dated 8/12/01 5:55:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

Yeah,

That is considered the "WORLD" to a lot of Americans.

Tragic.


Hey, were would the world be without America?
Human Slavery under Russian and Chinese Rule.
Or if you'd rather, Hittler Rule a few decades earlier.

God Bless America.
My home sweet home.

Best,
Al



Well, now I think I'm about to be as sick as when I saw the new movie!

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whitty@... writes:

Even the POTA movies make no reference anywhere to any other continent - it
is just plain silly.

Well, I remember as a kid after I saw CONQUEST, I wanted to see in the next
movie the apes revolting in other countries around the world.

Little did I know, Fox decided it wasn't in the budget.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 3:07 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: WORLD Box office?

Well, now I think I'm about to be as sick as when I saw the new movie!

GOD BLESS AMERICA....MY HOME SWEET HOOOOME!!! :o)

la.la.....la..laaaaaaa...

 

I also do concerts!

Not as much as Modana prices...but close! :o)

 

Best,

Al

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz [prophecysite@...]
Sent: Monday, 13 August 2001 8:07
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: WORLD Box office?

Well, now I think I'm about to be as sick as when I saw the new movie!

GOD BLESS AMERICA....MY HOME SWEET HOOOOME!!! :o)

la.la.....la..laaaaaaa...

 

I also do concerts!

Not as much as Modana prices...but close! :o)

 

Best,

Al

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz [prophecysite@...]
Sent: Monday, 13 August 2001 8:35
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Out of site

Alex! Where's your site? I thought you were going to keep it on limited hours. How are we supposed to watch the clips? If Fox sees it down they'll decide "Apes" isn't popular anymore and not do a sequel. You want to be responsible for that? Hmmmm?                                                                - - - Jeff

 

 

The site is being relocated to another server with better prices.

Coming soon if all goes well: www.calima5021.com will be online soon.

5021 is the year the Spacestation crashed on the planet, for all who don't know.

 

It will only be new pota based: Sorry but Bandwidth is a bitch of a cost and I know that no one will help me with the prices but me. And since the new pota is what's hot right now, I had to make a choice.

 

Coming Soon...and sooner than you think.

If all goes well.

 

Best,

Al

 

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