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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 3:34 PM

Subject: RE: [pota] To be, or not to be

I really think Box Office will head back up next week and I am positive the $200mil will be achieved in the US.  Even if they get close the sequel is a given me thinks.

 

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [mailto:Haristas@...]
Sent: Monday, 13 August 2001 7:47
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] To be, or not to be

In a message dated 8/12/01 5:44:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

It's OK Jeff,

If they do pull the plug you can get yourself some of the Aussie videos and
transform them.....hang on, there are none left on the shelves and they
have been deleted...........

Michael

They're not going to pull the plugs on the DVDs.  Fox probably expects
Burton's POTA to be a huge Christmas Video, and the TV series will only help.

Stop teasing Jeff, you mean Aussie!!!

-- Rory

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.htmlIn a message dated 8/12/01 6:49:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

Good luck Al.

Is there someone in Fox you could discuss getting some help with?

Michael


No, but that's cool. I'm sure that FOX dosen't help the half a million Star
Wars sites out there either. But if cost have to be cut, I see no other way.
Rock On!

Best,
Al




Alex, you're precious!

Best,
Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 8/12/01 6:50:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

Hi Robin, welcome to the group.

There are not a lot of single hairy females on this site, so is it OK to
talk to us fellas?

How is the cricket going?

Michael (from Australia)


That reminds me, where's Mez?

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 8/12/01 6:56:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

I really think Box Office will head back up next week and I am positive the
$200mil will be achieved in the US.  Even if they get close the sequel is a
given me thinks.

Michael


The box office head back up next week for POTA?!!!   Now that truly would be
science fiction!

(Alternative joke line:  When monkeys fly out my butt -- again!)

-- Rory<.html

<< And after eight years in development -- that's all she wrote! >>

Eight years of development and eight months of production. What the hell
were they expecting on a rushed film with that half-assed writing? With the
opening numbers it should be obvious to even those Hollywood idiots, that had
they made a better film they would be packing them in. The interest was
certainly there. You can't have legs on a film that's as hollow as a
chocolate Santa. Enough soulless films have been made that we don't need
more. This should be a wake up call to Craptown that even with a popular
concept you can't force mediocre movies down the publics throat.

.htmlHi, I'm Jackie I just joined today. I'm a big fan of Planet of The Apes. I'm
missing a few episodes of the TV show. If anyone could help me out. I'd
sure appreciate it thanks.

Jackie<.html

<< Even when I visited the US I got questons like "So how long did it take
y'all to drive here form Australia?". That was before Crocodile Dundee -
then when I visited the next time it was "Do you really have to fight
crocodiles to get your food?". >>

Now hold on there! Sure we have some first class morons roaming around, more
than our share. But you can't tell me there aren't any world class bozos
down under. I mean after all, how else could they talk you into disarming
yourselves?

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jcschmitt@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 5:25 PM

Subject: [pota] TV Show

Hi, I'm Jackie I just joined today. I'm a big fan of Planet of The Apes. I'm
missing a few episodes of the TV show. If anyone could help me out. I'd
sure appreciate it thanks.

Jackie
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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<< Cougar (real name Mike) quit the group a while ago. >>

Cougar IM'ed me after the Memphis festival and haven't heard from him since.
I told him about spending the last night in the lobby when there was a power
failure. Kim got very little sleep and I didn't get any, what with the staff
shining flashlights around and pounding on doors for wake up calls since the
phones were out. Need less to say I had a very long drive home. I talked to
Kim after the reported success of the book signing and B & N. She was almost
caught up on her sleep. I'm still trying to get on a proper schedule. No
luck so far, but it's only been a week. I woke up today at 5:30pm and my
alarm was set for 1:30, but I'm still hopeful.
As far as all the talk about the new film, I think H B-C said it best, when
asked if she watched the original or if she felt it would detract from her
performance, "Oh no no no, I went back, and watched it, just to get all my
ideas, you know, crib Kim Hunter. But um, no I watched it, and it's a really
great film. And our film can't ever pretend ever to be as good as that, but
it's a very different film."

.htmlIn a message dated 08/12/2001 7:45:18 PM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Get a DVD player. The episodes are slated to be out in a couple months

Hi Jeff,

      Thanks Jeff. I don't have a DVD Player yet, but would still love to
have the
episodes on tape too.

Jackie<.html

In a message dated 8/12/01 6:00:21 PM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:

<< That reminds me, where's Mez? >>

I believe Mez dropped out to avoid the spoilers before the Brit release.

Nope,

No morons down here at all - how dare you even suggest!!

Well, then again maybe the Prime Minister, Paul Hogan (sold out), all
Queenslanders.......aw crap, there are morons everywhere here too!!

T, my only point was that a lot of Americans think the US is the WORLD. I
did not mean to start WW3 or insult anyone. But I must say every Aussie I
know would realise that there are a LOT of countries out there. When we
have a WORLD CUP, there are at least 5 other countries playing (not just the
States within OUR country).

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Monday, 13 August 2001 10:32
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] WORLD Box office?

<< Even when I visited the US I got questons like "So how long did it take
y'all to drive here form Australia?". That was before Crocodile Dundee -
then when I visited the next time it was "Do you really have to fight
crocodiles to get your food?". >>

Now hold on there! Sure we have some first class morons roaming around,
more
than our share. But you can't tell me there aren't any world class bozos
down under. I mean after all, how else could they talk you into disarming
yourselves?

<< Thanks Jeff. I don't have a DVD Player yet, but would still love to
have the
episodes on tape too. >>

Hey Jackie,
You need to talk to Terry. But he's moving this site on Wednesday
( <A HREF="http://www.dlcwest.com/~comicsape/ape.htm">Planet of the Apes
International Fan Club Fanzine with Charlton Heston, Roddy M</A>)
http://www.dlcwest.com/~comicsape/ape.htm
to :
WE ARE MOVING TO www.HOKNES.com on 8/15/01 hoknes@... This current
page will cease to exist

<< T, my only point was that a lot of Americans think the US is the WORLD. I
did not mean to start WW3 or insult anyone. >>

Well, I've been prepared for that eventuality since late '99. But no offense
taken. There are plenty of walking brain-dead here, especially in Texas.
Howard Stern and Jay Leno often do street Jeopardy, and the number of people
who haven't a clue, even on common knowledge questions, never fails to amaze
me. And there are plenty who over estimate the US' size and influence on the
rest of the world. Movies like Apes help people think more about such
issues. Too bad the new film has been dumbed down. I still hope it makes
it's projected $200 mil. mark. I'm doing my bit. I've been twice in 3
weeks. I just hope after the Brit release we don't lose more group members.

.htmlHi Jackie,the word from Fox is Nov 20th they will have all 14 episodes on dvd
5 dvds !First time ever in U.S.A not available on VHS tape maybe some behind
the scenes! Aug 21 2001 will be the 5 films on dvd with a special dvd behind
planet apes,Or you can get the Behind planet apes collectors edition two dvd
set sold separately with more stuff ! Bryan collectors edition available now.<.html

A word of warning Jackie.
If Terry's on tour those DVD's will prabably be out before you can get those
tapes.

.htmlIn a message dated 8/12/01 8:45:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

 Hi Jackie - - -

Get a DVD player. The episodes are slated to be out in a couple months.

                                                                          
- - - - Jeff K.


Now, now, Jeffrey.  I recuited Jackie into this group.  She doesn't have a
DVD player, and simply wants some TV episodes on VHS.  So, if anyone knows
where she can get them without having to send away to Australia, then that
would be nice.

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 8/12/01 10:27:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Kay53531@... writes:

Hi Jackie,the word from Fox is Nov 20th they will have all 14 episodes on
dvd
5 dvds !First time ever in U.S.A not available on VHS tape maybe some
behind
the scenes! Aug 21 2001 will be the 5 films on dvd with a special dvd
behind
planet apes,Or you can get the Behind planet apes collectors edition two
dvd
set sold separately with more stuff ! Bryan collectors edition available
now.

I don't think Jackie wants to get a DVD player right now, so if any of you
have the TV series on VHS and are willing to make Jackie some copies, please
speak up.  I don't have them myself.

I told her to join this group because I figured we could, so please show what
good APES fans you are.

-- Rory <.html

.htmlIn a message dated 8/12/01 10:49:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:

A word of warning Jackie.
If Terry's on tour those DVD's will prabably be out before you can get
those
tapes.

Yeah, Terry Hokens is in Europe right now (So says Jeff Krueger), so forget
that.

-- Rory<.html

.html 5021??  how did you get that? hmm

From: "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@...>
Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:35:03 -0400
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [pota] Re: Out of site

Alex! Where's your site? I thought you were going to keep it on limited hours. How are we supposed to watch the clips? If Fox sees it down they'll decide "Apes" isn't popular anymore and not do a sequel. You want to be responsible for that? Hmmmm?                                                                - - - Jeff


The site is being relocated to another server with better prices.
Coming soon if all goes well: www.calima5021.com <http://www.calima5021.comOM>  will be online soon.
5021 is the year the Spacestation crashed on the planet, for all who don't know.

It will only be new pota based: Sorry but Bandwidth is a bitch of a cost and I know that no one will help me with the prices but me. And since the new pota is what's hot right now, I had to make a choice.

Coming Soon...and sooner than you think.
If all goes well.

Best,
Al

<.html

In a message dated 8/12/01 6:56:35 PM, Haristas@... writes:

<< Cougar (real name Mike) quit the group a while ago. He e-mailed me
privately
to tell me why. Seems he couldn't stand all the talk about what this or that
meant in the new movie. He hasn't seen the new movie and has no intention to
ever see it. He's classic APES all the way. >>

Wait, someone quit the group without asking how? Is that possible?

Matt

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> Hey, were would the world be without America?
> Human Slavery under Russian and Chinese Rule.
> Or if you'd rather, Hittler Rule a few decades earlier.
>

Hey Alex,

I hope you are not serious with your above post, there are a lot of
people worldwide on this list who I'm sure like me feel a tad
offended, having lost both grandfathers trying to repel the Nazis
from these shores decades ago I just presume your depression over the
overall reception to the remake has sent you gaga.

Lets keep this list PotA and not venture into discussions that could
upset a lot of people. By the way there is only one 't' in Hitler.

Daniel
UK

'PLANET OF THE APES'
Anyone watching the new movie "Planet of the Apes" and
hoping to see an on-screen mating between British actress
Helena Bonham Carter's passionate human rights activist
chimpanzee and Mark Wahlberg's heroic human astronaut
are out of luck. Although Carter admits there is a strong
attraction between their characters, she insisted rumors
that director Tim Burton ("Sleepy Hollow," "Batman") cut a
steamy inter-species sex scene out of the final version of
the movie is completely false. "I would have been up for
it, absolutely, but I don't think this movie is a manifesto
of bestiality," she exclaimed. " ... This is ultimately a
family film." Carter might not know where those nasty
rumors about monkey love got started, but Wahlberg ("The
Perfect Storm," "Boogie Nights") certainly does. "What
happened was me and Tim (Burton) talked about this
relationship early on before I saw the script. I had
seen it on paper and there was a potential for it to go
further. And I just started talking in interviews, 'Yeah,
it's hard-core. We're just bleeping away.' I was messing
around and people started to believe it," confessed the
30-year-old actor. "So next we're at the press junket
and people started asking, 'So why did you cut out the
scene?' And Tim is saying, 'What are you talking about?'
(and they say) 'Mark said ... ' (and Burton replied)
'Well, if they shot it, I wasn't there that day and I
don't know what the hell he's talking about.'"

> Hi Robin, welcome to the group.
>
> How is the cricket going?
>
> Michael (from Australia)

Hey Robin,

Pay no attention to Michael, he welcomes all UK members with a
reference to the damn cricket (revenge will be sweet.... one day)!

Dan

I received my copy of Joe Russo's book today. Can't wait to read it. The
pictures are very cool with about 90% shots I haven't seen before. A
rare occurrence for this veteran fan. Only gripe is that I wish it had
been a larger format with a hard cover and more colour ( color) pics.
There's just no pleasing SOME Ape fans!
Worth getting for sure.
Best,
KEN

Hey Robin and Dan,

Just takin' the piss - and in a friendly way.

I am still recovering from the first Test I ever went to in Sydney (around
1987)- Gower and co. made about 1/350 that day. Man I was angry (and drunk,
and sunburnt). That was in the days Aussies were crap and were setting all
time low score records.....and the Poms will come back for sure. They are
actually competing fairly well.

All the best to my Pommy mates.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: daniel225nma@... [daniel225nma@...]
Sent: Monday, 13 August 2001 17:33
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Welcome

> Hi Robin, welcome to the group.
>
> How is the cricket going?
>
> Michael (from Australia)

Hey Robin,

Pay no attention to Michael, he welcomes all UK members with a
reference to the damn cricket (revenge will be sweet.... one day)!

Dan

.htmlIn a message dated 08/12/2001 10:34:28 PM Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:

<I recuited Jackie into this group.>

Thanks for recruiting me here Rory, I
really enjoy being here. Thanks everyone
for the info about the show coming to DVD.

Jackie


<.html

A lot of Americans have an ingrained "We're #1!" attitude, I guess from
tradition. But I think the younger generations, especially with the
internet, see things as a world community. In terms of movies, we contribute
more to the box office than any other country and are the top movie industry
in terms of revenue. That's why studios get so anal about the U.S. box
office.

- - - Jeff K. ,
American

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] WORLD Box office?


>
> << T, my only point was that a lot of Americans think the US is the WORLD.
I
> did not mean to start WW3 or insult anyone. >>
>
> Well, I've been prepared for that eventuality since late '99. But no
offense
> taken. There are plenty of walking brain-dead here, especially in Texas.
> Howard Stern and Jay Leno often do street Jeopardy, and the number of
people
> who haven't a clue, even on common knowledge questions, never fails to
amaze
> me. And there are plenty who over estimate the US' size and influence on
the
> rest of the world. Movies like Apes help people think more about such
> issues. Too bad the new film has been dumbed down. I still hope it makes
> it's projected $200 mil. mark. I'm doing my bit. I've been twice in 3
> weeks. I just hope after the Brit release we don't lose more group
members.
>
>
>
>
>
>

.html

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 8:42 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] TV Show

In a message dated 8/12/01 10:49:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:

A word of warning Jackie.
If Terry's on tour those DVD's will prabably be out before you can get
those
tapes.

Yeah, Terry Hokens is in Europe right now (So says Jeff Krueger), so forget
that.

-- Rory

<.html

.html

----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 2:10 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: To be, or not to be

I've just read this at Daily Variety.com. . . .

Director Tim Burton's POTA has spun $148 million after 17 days, and should
end up with about $180 million, said an executive at Twentieth Century Fox

And after eight years in development -- that's all she wrote!

Made more than the original comparing prices towards today. And the original spawned 4 sequels. Not bad. POTA Burton Sequel here we come.

 

Best,

Al

 

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

<.html

Are you alright, T? You don't sound like yourself today.

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 12:19 AM
Subject: [pota] Entertainment Today 8/1/01


> 'PLANET OF THE APES'
> Anyone watching the new movie "Planet of the Apes" and
> hoping to see an on-screen mating between British actress
> Helena Bonham Carter's passionate human rights activist
> chimpanzee and Mark Wahlberg's heroic human astronaut
> are out of luck. Although Carter admits there is a strong
> attraction between their characters, she insisted rumors
> that director Tim Burton ("Sleepy Hollow," "Batman") cut a
> steamy inter-species sex scene out of the final version of
> the movie is completely false. "I would have been up for
> it, absolutely, but I don't think this movie is a manifesto
> of bestiality," she exclaimed. " ... This is ultimately a
> family film." Carter might not know where those nasty
> rumors about monkey love got started, but Wahlberg ("The
> Perfect Storm," "Boogie Nights") certainly does. "What
> happened was me and Tim (Burton) talked about this
> relationship early on before I saw the script. I had
> seen it on paper and there was a potential for it to go
> further. And I just started talking in interviews, 'Yeah,
> it's hard-core. We're just bleeping away.' I was messing
> around and people started to believe it," confessed the
> 30-year-old actor. "So next we're at the press junket
> and people started asking, 'So why did you cut out the
> scene?' And Tim is saying, 'What are you talking about?'
> (and they say) 'Mark said ... ' (and Burton replied)
> 'Well, if they shot it, I wasn't there that day and I
> don't know what the hell he's talking about.'"
>
>
>
>
>
>

We need a POTA Classic coffee table book. That's next.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken & Heather Taylor" <kentaylor@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 1:49 AM
Subject: [pota] apes revisited


> I received my copy of Joe Russo's book today. Can't wait to read it. The
> pictures are very cool with about 90% shots I haven't seen before. A
> rare occurrence for this veteran fan. Only gripe is that I wish it had
> been a larger format with a hard cover and more colour ( color) pics.
> There's just no pleasing SOME Ape fans!
> Worth getting for sure.
> Best,
> KEN
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

No, that's not off topic. Rupert Murdoch owns Fox, mate. So there.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 2:02 AM
Subject: [pota] Welcome


> Hey Robin and Dan,
>
> Just takin' the piss - and in a friendly way.
>
> I am still recovering from the first Test I ever went to in Sydney (around
> 1987)- Gower and co. made about 1/350 that day. Man I was angry (and
drunk,
> and sunburnt). That was in the days Aussies were crap and were setting
all
> time low score records.....and the Poms will come back for sure. They are
> actually competing fairly well.
>
> All the best to my Pommy mates.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: daniel225nma@... [daniel225nma@...]
> Sent: Monday, 13 August 2001 17:33
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Welcome
>
> > Hi Robin, welcome to the group.
> >
> > How is the cricket going?
> >
> > Michael (from Australia)
>
> Hey Robin,
>
> Pay no attention to Michael, he welcomes all UK members with a
> reference to the damn cricket (revenge will be sweet.... one day)!
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

According to today's "Variety", "Apes" is opening well in countries and
then dropping. Read between the lines Fox, even if you need glasses. You
have a potential franchise but you need to provide more than cool looking
monkeys.

-
- - Jeff K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] apes revisited


> We need a POTA Classic coffee table book. That's next.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken & Heather Taylor" <kentaylor@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 1:49 AM
> Subject: [pota] apes revisited
>
>
> > I received my copy of Joe Russo's book today. Can't wait to read it. The
> > pictures are very cool with about 90% shots I haven't seen before. A
> > rare occurrence for this veteran fan. Only gripe is that I wish it had
> > been a larger format with a hard cover and more colour ( color) pics.
> > There's just no pleasing SOME Ape fans!
> > Worth getting for sure.
> > Best,
> > KEN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

.htmlIn a message dated 8/13/01 11:47:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

 "Rush Hour 2" is making more than POTA. It's the final degradation! Is
there no God?                       - - - - Jeff K.

Isn't it ironic that it was comedies that ran the POTA TV series off the air.

-- Rory M.<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 8/13/01 11:51:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

 We need a POTA Classic coffee table book. That's next.

Yeah, I saw the "Making of Burton's POTA" at a bookstore this weekend.  The
only reason I'd buy it is for the nice color photos from the original.  There
weren't enough of them to get me to buy it!

They didn't have the new Starlog, BTW.

-- Rory<.html

In a message dated 8/13/01 10:30:05 AM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< In terms of movies, we contribute more to the box office than any other
country and are the top movie industry in terms of revenue. >>

Uhh...true. But most isn't always best. Hollywood thinks if the do
something big they can shove it down everyone's throats. Hence Apes. Too
bad it wasn't a smaller independent film. IMHO the best film of 2000 was
Crouching Tiger from China. Hence Apes. Oh well, get out and support it!
Pay and don't go. The next one, if it ever gets made will be more like the
book. I like having something to look forward to. I knew and said all along
they were blowing it, but at least I had something to look forward to, so
I'll see it a third time!

In a message dated 8/13/01 10:47:18 AM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< "Rush Hour 2" is making more than POTA. It's the final degradation! Is
there no God? >>

Yes, there is. And He wanted a better Apes movie as well! You hear that
Fox? Zanuck? Burton? You let the whole world down! Don't take on a
project if you're not up to it. And that doesn't mean having the money to
throw at it. Big budgets are no substitute for good film making.

In a message dated 8/13/01 10:49:45 AM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< Are you alright, T? You don't sound like yourself today. >>

That's cause it's not me. I didn't write it.
I'm just passing it along.
That's why the subject line says Entertainment Today 8/1/01

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> Read between the lines Fox, even if you need glasses. You
> have a potential franchise but you need to provide more than cool looking
> monkeys.
>
> -
> - - Jeff K.

like what?

M

Sadly, they'll be thinking "Our advertising blitz made 'em come and then
when we slowed down the ads they stopped coming." They will not be thinking
about trivial stuff like having a shitty script.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2001 2:02
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Droppety, drop drop

According to today's "Variety", "Apes" is opening well in countries and
then dropping. Read between the lines Fox, even if you need glasses. You
have a potential franchise but you need to provide more than cool looking
monkeys.

-
- - Jeff K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] apes revisited


> We need a POTA Classic coffee table book. That's next.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken & Heather Taylor" <kentaylor@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 1:49 AM
> Subject: [pota] apes revisited
>
>
> > I received my copy of Joe Russo's book today. Can't wait to read it. The
> > pictures are very cool with about 90% shots I haven't seen before. A
> > rare occurrence for this veteran fan. Only gripe is that I wish it had
> > been a larger format with a hard cover and more colour ( color) pics.
> > There's just no pleasing SOME Ape fans!
> > Worth getting for sure.
> > Best,
> > KEN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

You could take a group of friends and all say "Bow your heads" at the same
time. Even dress up and go a la Rocky Horror. "It's just a leap to the
left......And then a tantrum to the ri-i-i-i-i-ight."

Man, if any of the POTA movies are campy............

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2001 5:01
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] WORLD Box office?

In a message dated 8/13/01 10:30:05 AM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< In terms of movies, we contribute more to the box office than any other
country and are the top movie industry in terms of revenue. >>

Uhh...true. But most isn't always best. Hollywood thinks if the do
something big they can shove it down everyone's throats. Hence Apes. Too
bad it wasn't a smaller independent film. IMHO the best film of 2000 was
Crouching Tiger from China. Hence Apes. Oh well, get out and support it!
Pay and don't go. The next one, if it ever gets made will be more like the
book. I like having something to look forward to. I knew and said all
along
they were blowing it, but at least I had something to look forward to, so
I'll see it a third time!

.htmlIn a message dated 8/13/01 5:34:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

Sadly, they'll be thinking "Our advertising blitz made 'em come and then
when we slowed down the ads they stopped coming."  They will not be thinking
about trivial stuff like having a shitty script.

Michael

Firstly, I wanted to change the subject line to the better one above.

Secondly, I've just heard on E! News Daily that with all the success of
sequels and remakes this summer, the thinking in the industry is that we can
expect more of the same.  About APES specifically they said, "The question
for Fox now is (since this was made to start a franchise), 'Can we make a
sequel for a decent amount of money, and still MAKE money?'"

So, I'll bet that if we get a sequel it will be a cheaper movie than this
one, but hopefully the spend what they need to for a better script, otherwise
I think Fox can kiss this APES franchise goodbye. <.html

.htmlAccess Hollywood just asked Mark Wahlberg if he was pleased with how APES has
done at the boxoffice, and he said he was, BUT that he was more pleased with
what he's heard about how people like the movie AND HOW THE APES' FANS LIKE
IT!!!

Alex, have you been talking to Wahlberg?

He also said that if Burton comes back for a sequel, he will too.

Oh, boy.

-- Rory<.html

.html <.html

.htmlClick here: A Leader in Planet of the Apes Information

There's a live chat going on right now here with "Planet of the Apes
Revisited" co-author Larry Landsman.

-- Rory <.html

A coherent story perhaps, maybe some characters that interact with each
other, not at each other, that kind of stuff. But then I guess it wouldn't
be a summer movie.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Gould" <mark.gould@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Droppety, drop drop


>
> > Read between the lines Fox, even if you need glasses. You
> > have a potential franchise but you need to provide more than cool
looking
> > monkeys.
> >
> > -
> > - - Jeff K.
>
> like what?
>
> M
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Ssssh! Don't compare them. I hear Fox was unhappy with the response to the
"Rocky Horror" DVD.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 2:36 PM
Subject: [pota] Let's do the Ape Warp Again


> You could take a group of friends and all say "Bow your heads" at the same
> time. Even dress up and go a la Rocky Horror. "It's just a leap to the
> left......And then a tantrum to the ri-i-i-i-i-ight."
>
> Man, if any of the POTA movies are campy............
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2001 5:01
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pota] WORLD Box office?
>
> In a message dated 8/13/01 10:30:05 AM Central Daylight Time,
> williejoe@... writes:
>
> << In terms of movies, we contribute more to the box office than any other
> country and are the top movie industry in terms of revenue. >>
>
> Uhh...true. But most isn't always best. Hollywood thinks if the do
> something big they can shove it down everyone's throats. Hence Apes. Too
> bad it wasn't a smaller independent film. IMHO the best film of 2000 was
> Crouching Tiger from China. Hence Apes. Oh well, get out and support it!
> Pay and don't go. The next one, if it ever gets made will be more like
the
> book. I like having something to look forward to. I knew and said all
> along
> they were blowing it, but at least I had something to look forward to, so
> I'll see it a third time!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Well, having a shitty script didn't stop people from going to "MI:2" last
year. I don't know what the answer is. Certainly audiences don't always
flock to the best movies.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 2:25 PM
Subject: [pota] Droppety, drop drop


> Sadly, they'll be thinking "Our advertising blitz made 'em come and then
> when we slowed down the ads they stopped coming." They will not be
thinking
> about trivial stuff like having a shitty script.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2001 2:02
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Droppety, drop drop
>
> According to today's "Variety", "Apes" is opening well in countries and
> then dropping. Read between the lines Fox, even if you need glasses. You
> have a potential franchise but you need to provide more than cool looking
> monkeys.
>
>
-
> - - Jeff K.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 8:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [pota] apes revisited
>
>
> > We need a POTA Classic coffee table book. That's next.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ken & Heather Taylor" <kentaylor@...>
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 1:49 AM
> > Subject: [pota] apes revisited
> >
> >
> > > I received my copy of Joe Russo's book today. Can't wait to read it.
The
> > > pictures are very cool with about 90% shots I haven't seen before. A
> > > rare occurrence for this veteran fan. Only gripe is that I wish it had
> > > been a larger format with a hard cover and more colour ( color) pics.
> > > There's just no pleasing SOME Ape fans!
> > > Worth getting for sure.
> > > Best,
> > > KEN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

.html

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 3:54 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Going. . .going. . .gone.

In a message dated 8/13/01 5:34:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

Sadly, they'll be thinking "Our advertising blitz made 'em come and then
when we slowed down the ads they stopped coming."  They will not be thinking
about trivial stuff like having a shitty script.

Michael

Firstly, I wanted to change the subject line to the better one above.

Secondly, I've just heard on E! News Daily that with all the success of
sequels and remakes this summer, the thinking in the industry is that we can
expect more of the same.  About APES specifically they said, "The question
for Fox now is (since this was made to start a franchise), 'Can we make a
sequel for a decent amount of money, and still MAKE money?'"

So, I'll bet that if we get a sequel it will be a cheaper movie than this
one, but hopefully the spend what they need to for a better script, otherwise
I think Fox can kiss this APES franchise goodbye.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

<.html

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 4:19 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Access Hollywood

Access Hollywood just asked Mark Wahlberg if he was pleased with how APES has
done at the boxoffice, and he said he was, BUT that he was more pleased with
what he's heard about how people like the movie AND HOW THE APES' FANS LIKE
IT!!!

Alex, have you been talking to Wahlberg?

 

Wahlberg's Official Web Site did contact me the other day.

And I did say that I was very pleased with Roth and Wahlberg's performance.

Outstanding.

 

Best,

Al

 

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<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 8/13/01 7:54:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

  You were pleased with WAHLBERG'S performance? Do you also like to watch
paint dry?

I think anything with APES turns Alex on.  Hey Alex, did you like "Lancelot
Link"?    I did.  Never missed an episode.  Wahlberg would make a great Lance!

-- Rory<.html

.html

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 5:01 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Alex Hollywood

In a message dated 8/13/01 7:54:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

  You were pleased with WAHLBERG'S performance? Do you also like to watch
paint dry?

I think anything with APES turns Alex on.  Hey Alex, did you like "Lancelot
Link"?    I did.  Never missed an episode.  Wahlberg would make a great Lance!

-- Rory

<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 8/13/01 8:11:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

What happened with Larry's chat? Is there a way to view transcripts of that
and Linda's?

Larry's chat just ended.  I don't know about transcripts.  I'll bet not.

-- Rory<.html

.html <.html

Now this is getting kind of childish. You guys are making personal attacks
against Alex just because he loves the new film. He also loves the original.
He probably loves it more than anyone in here, enough to make a great website
about it. I'm a fan of both and one of the rules I made for myself was to
respect everyone else's opinion on how they felt about the new film, even
though most of you hate it. Those that don't hate it seem to be afraid to say
so. All I'm saying is if you expect everyone to respect your opinion then
respect those of others. That's all. I'm off my soapbox now.

Loc


In a message dated 8/13/01 7:20:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< You were pleased with WAHLBERG'S performance? Do you also like to watch
paint dry?


I think anything with APES turns Alex on. Hey Alex, did you like "Lancelot
Link"? I did. Never missed an episode. Wahlberg would make a great
Lance!


Well la.... haaary.... har har...
Give the guy a break, he did an excellent jod.

Best,
Al

from www.calima5021.com
You aint seen nothin yet! :o)

P.S. Calima has already been spoiled by the official site, so no harm done.

>>

--- In pota@y..., "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@e...> wrote:

> Cheaper means no Tim Burton and no Mark Wahlberg.

And this is a bad thing how?

Oh shit - Joel Schumacher and Val Kilmer???

--- In pota@y..., "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@e...> wrote:

> Well, having a shitty script didn't stop people from going

to "MI:2" last

> year. I don't know what the answer is. Certainly audiences don't

always

> flock to the best movies.

This is the part where I mention that "Memento" and "Ghost World"
were the two best films I've seen this year, and they're playing in
major cities. Please give them some cash.

>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>
> To: <pota@y...>
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 2:25 PM
> Subject: [pota] Droppety, drop drop
>
>
> > Sadly, they'll be thinking "Our advertising blitz made 'em come

and then

> > when we slowed down the ads they stopped coming." They will not

be

> thinking
> > about trivial stuff like having a shitty script.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@e...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2001 2:02
> > To: pota@y...
> > Subject: [pota] Droppety, drop drop
> >
> > According to today's "Variety", "Apes" is opening well in

countries and

> > then dropping. Read between the lines Fox, even if you need

glasses. You

> > have a potential franchise but you need to provide more than cool

looking

> > monkeys.
> >
>
>

> -
> > - - Jeff K.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@e...>
> > To: <pota@y...>
> > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 8:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: [pota] apes revisited
> >
> >
> > > We need a POTA Classic coffee table book. That's next.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ken & Heather Taylor" <kentaylor@w...>
> > > To: <pota@y...>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 1:49 AM
> > > Subject: [pota] apes revisited
> > >
> > >
> > > > I received my copy of Joe Russo's book today. Can't wait to

read it.

> The
> > > > pictures are very cool with about 90% shots I haven't seen

before. A

> > > > rare occurrence for this veteran fan. Only gripe is that I

wish it had

> > > > been a larger format with a hard cover and more colour (

color) pics.

> > > > There's just no pleasing SOME Ape fans!
> > > > Worth getting for sure.
> > > > Best,
> > > > KEN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
> >

.htmlI called Fox today to see if any news of an anouncement of an earlyer release
date.and found out Jane no longer works there,she left two weeks ago.The new
woman I spoke to said apes the series is still coming to dvd,but the Nov 20th
date has been stopped! there is no date as of yet fox is waiting for the new
date.she told me to call back in a couple weeks maybe they are bumping up the
date or need more time to add the extras current interviews with Ron harper
and James Naughton! Booth Colman! Bryan<.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Kay53531@... [Kay53531@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2001 16:43
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Planet apes tv series date has changed

I called Fox today to see if any news of an anouncement of an earlyer release
date.and found out Jane no longer works there,she left two weeks ago.The new
woman I spoke to said apes the series is still coming to dvd,but the Nov 20th
date has been stopped! there is no date as of yet fox is waiting for the new
date.she told me to call back in a couple weeks maybe they are bumping up the
date or need more time to add the extras current interviews with Ron harper
and James Naughton! Booth Colman! Bryan
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<.html

<< Those that don't hate it seem to be afraid to say so. >>

I'm not afraid of anyone, though I'd rather be chased by hundreds of armored
gorillas than have Clinton's goon squad after me, with their track record. I
didn't hate the movie. I said so. I didn't think it was a great film, but a
good popcorn cruncher, which felt forced, and rushed. Which is also about
what I expected, so . . .
Sure there was a lot that could have been better, and parts that just plain
sucked.
But on the whole a good entertainment value for my four dollars. Go to
matinees, you won't feel ripped off.

As you can see by the date I'm still trying to catch up on a back log of
e-mail.
As far as the Hasbro toys being based on the characters, it must be loosely
based.

-----------------------------------------------------------


MORE 'PLANET OF THE APES'
Director Tim Burton confesses he doesn't understand what
motivates news reports about last-minute perfectionizing on
is new movie "Planet of the Apes." Recent news accounts
indicated that previews were delayed because the movie
wasn't ready, but Burton said there was never any doubt
the movie would be ready for this Friday's nationwide
opening. In an interview with the Toronto Sun, the director
of "Sleepy Hollow" and "Mars Attacks!" wondered: "How is
this news?" According to Burton, last-minute fussing over
a movie is par for the course -- not just for him, but for
just about any director. "What person who's working on a
film isn't, like, going crazy or working on it right to the
end?" he wondered. Most often, said Burton, the studio has
to "grab the film can from your clenched fist." Asked
about speculation on the Internet earlier this summer that
studio suits shot down a love scene between a human and an
ape -- played by Mark Wahlberg and Helena Bonham Carter --
Burton was incredulous. "Oh, my God!" he said. "What kind
of people are on the Internet? I mean, animal sex scenes? I
don't know if that's even possible in a Hollywood American
movie." Burton also talked about the ending of "Planet of
the Apes" -- but he didn't go so far as to give it away, as
Internet gossip Matt Drudge did. "It's totally out in left
field," said Burton, "and reminded me of those 'X-Files'
episodes that end so crazily, you're compelled to watch the
next episode to see how ... they'll explain it." According
to various reports in Hollywood, a sequel is contemplated.


------------------------------------------------------------
'PLANET OF THE APES'
Mark Wahlberg was at FAO Schwarz in New York Wednesday to
help Hasbro launch the action figures based on "Planet of
the Apes." Wahlberg greeted fans and autographed the action
figures, which are now available nationwide. The line features
figures based on the film's major heroes and villains,
including characters played by Wahlberg, Tim Roth, Helena
Bonham Carter, Michael Clarke Duncan and supermodel Estella
Warren. The movie opens in theaters nationwide this Friday.


------------------------------------------------------------

"PS The toy sucked!"
Gee it's amazing what they can get toys to do these days. Was it good for you
too?
Sorry Matt, couldn't help myself. "Small things"....whoops, there I go again.
Best,
KEN
PS Milk, milk lemonaide 'round the corner chocolate's made.

MTotsky@... wrote:

> I saw the twelve inch electronic talking Attar doll at Toys R Us last night
> and one of the lines that it says is:
>
> "The only good human, is a dead human!"
>
> I don't recall that line in the new film.
>
> Confused Matt
>
> PS The toy sucked!
>
>
>
>
>

.htmlIn a message dated 8/13/01 10:57:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
locutusatwolf359@... writes:

Now this is getting kind of childish. You guys are making personal attacks
against Alex just because he loves the new film. He also loves the
original.
He probably loves it more than anyone in here, enough to make a great
website
about it. I'm a fan of both and one of the rules I made for myself  was to
respect everyone else's opinion on how they felt about the new film, even
though most of you hate it. Those that don't hate it seem to be afraid to
say
so. All I'm saying is if you expect everyone to respect your opinion then
respect those of others. That's all. I'm off my soapbox now.

Loc

I'm not attacking Alex.  I just can't help poke fun at him because he seems
such an uncritical fan, but okay I won't do it any more.

-- Rory<.html

.html Keep up the great work, Bryan.

You RULE!

Brian

Kay53531@... wrote:

I called Fox today to see if any news of an anouncement of an earlyer release
date.and found out Jane no longer works there,she left two weeks ago.The new
woman I spoke to said apes the series is still coming to dvd,but the Nov 20th
date has been stopped! there is no date as of yet fox is waiting for the new
date.she told me to call back in a couple weeks maybe they are bumping up the
date or need more time to add the extras current interviews with Ron harper
and James Naughton! Booth Colman! Bryan
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Get off it, T. You heard what they said, it wasn't rushed.

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Alex Hollywood


>
> << Those that don't hate it seem to be afraid to say so. >>
>
> I'm not afraid of anyone, though I'd rather be chased by hundreds of
armored
> gorillas than have Clinton's goon squad after me, with their track record.
I
> didn't hate the movie. I said so. I didn't think it was a great film,
but a
> good popcorn cruncher, which felt forced, and rushed. Which is also about
> what I expected, so . . .
> Sure there was a lot that could have been better, and parts that just
plain
> sucked.
> But on the whole a good entertainment value for my four dollars. Go to
> matinees, you won't feel ripped off.
>
>
>
>
>
>

.html

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:48 PM

Subject: RE: [pota] Planet apes tv series date has changed

Are you there Jeff K?

 

Just teasing again.....

 

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Kay53531@... [mailto:Kay53531@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2001 16:43
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Planet apes tv series date has changed

I called Fox today to see if any news of an anouncement of an earlyer release
date.and found out Jane no longer works there,she left two weeks ago.The new
woman I spoke to said apes the series is still coming to dvd,but the Nov 20th
date has been stopped! there is no date as of yet fox is waiting for the new
date.she told me to call back in a couple weeks maybe they are bumping up the
date or need more time to add the extras current interviews with Ron harper
and James Naughton! Booth Colman! Bryan
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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:36 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Alex Hollywood

I'm not attacking Alex.  I just can't help poke fun at him because he seems
such an uncritical fan, but okay I won't do it any more.

No harm done, I mean after all I am the one along with many others enjoying the new ape franchise. So pretty much I'm in ape heaven right now.

 

Best,

Al

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 4:20 PM

Subject: [pota] Check out A Leader in Planet of the Apes Information

Click here: A Leader in Planet of the Apes Information

There's a live chat going on right now here with "Planet of the Apes
Revisited" co-author Larry Landsman.

-- Rory

<.html

.html

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 4:20 PM

Subject: [pota] Check out A Leader in Planet of the Apes Information

Click here: A Leader in Planet of the Apes Information

There's a live chat going on right now here with "Planet of the Apes
Revisited" co-author Larry Landsman.

-- Rory

<.html

While we're on the subject of DVDs, here's a question for the group.....do
you think that DVDs are in any way hurting the box office performance of
certain movies? For example, do you think that people will be inclined to
skip a movie in the theater because it is so expensive, crowded, etc and
people know that they will be able to watch it on DVD (probably with a bunch
of extras) in a matter of months.

Personally speaking, I know this is the case for me. I have a 3 year old son
and another baby on the way in October, so I rarely get a chance to get out
and see a movie. I had to make an exception for POTA and before that, the
last one I saw in a theater was Hannibal. I am lucky to have a pretty nice
home theater set up, so I am of the mindset that I can just wait to see films
on DVD rather than go out. Do you think that there are enough others like me
to cut into a film's box office take?

Matt

.htmlIn a message dated 8/14/01 10:46:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
apeman@... writes:

I called Fox today to see if any news of an anouncement of an earlyer release

date.and found out Jane no longer works there,she left two weeks ago.The new

woman I spoke to said apes the series is still coming to dvd,but the Nov
20th
date has been stopped! there is no date as of yet fox is waiting for the new

date.she told me to call back in a couple weeks maybe they are bumping up
the
date or need more time to add the extras current interviews with Ron harper
and James Naughton! Booth Colman! Bryan


POTA question for the day:  Is the release of the APES TV series on DVD
nothing more or less than 'mere illusion'?

-- Rory<.html

.htmlMatt I agree,people i work with say the same thing,that they will wait.I go
to see if the film is good and to see what i might buy on dvd.If i never seen
the film i rent it,and if it is great i buy!I recently picked up all three
DIE Hards on dvd Fox did a great job each has two dvds in the collectors
edition and disc two is Loaded with featurettes if your a Bruce Willis die
hard fan you must get these!Fox should do the apes tv series the same
way.there must be tons of footage from the show.Didnt Roddy take home movies
all the time?Bryan<.html

I live in a rural country area with the nearest theater 30 minutes away and
it is a tiny one. There have been many times that my theater doesn't even get
a movie, like with the Exorcist Special Edition even though that movie was
number 2 in the box office for a week. So, absolutely I skip movies and wait
for the dvd. I don't really feel, however, this hurts the box office success
of a movie. I think the time a movie is released has a lot to do with its
success. Summer movies do the best then followed by winter releases.

Loc

In a message dated 8/14/01 11:54:05 AM Central Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:

<< While we're on the subject of DVDs, here's a question for the group.....do
you think that DVDs are in any way hurting the box office performance of
certain movies? For example, do you think that people will be inclined to
skip a movie in the theater because it is so expensive, crowded, etc and
people know that they will be able to watch it on DVD (probably with a bunch
of extras) in a matter of months.

Personally speaking, I know this is the case for me. I have a 3 year old son
and another baby on the way in October, so I rarely get a chance to get out
and see a movie. I had to make an exception for POTA and before that, the
last one I saw in a theater was Hannibal. I am lucky to have a pretty nice
home theater set up, so I am of the mindset that I can just wait to see
films
on DVD rather than go out. Do you think that there are enough others like me
to cut into a film's box office take?

Matt

>>

.htmlI saw this movie last night called "Shakma" from 1990.  In it a murderous
baboon escapes from a lab and roams a research building, killing teenage
students.  Roddy McDowall played their teacher and he got cornered in a
elevator where the baboon got him and ate his face off.

Poor Roddy!!

-- Rory<.html

.htmlJust saw footage on Access Hollywood of the London Premiere of APES.  They
questioned Wahlberg on a sequel, but he said Burton will need a come-down
period.  He only had two months to cut the film.

-- Rory<.html

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he said Burton will need a come-down
period.  He only had two months to cut the film.

Heh, it shows ;)

 

 

 

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.htmlIn a message dated 8/14/01 12:54:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:

While we're on the subject of DVDs, here's a question for the group.....do
you think that DVDs are in any way hurting the box office performance of
certain movies? For example, do you think that people will be inclined to
skip a movie in the theater because it is so expensive, crowded, etc and
people know that they will be able to watch it on DVD (probably with a
bunch
of extras) in a matter of months.

Personally speaking, I know this is the case for me. I have a 3 year old
son
and another baby on the way in October, so I rarely get a chance to get out
and see a movie. I had to make an exception for POTA and before that, the
last one I saw in a theater was Hannibal. I am lucky to have a pretty nice
home theater set up, so I am of the mindset that I can just wait to see
films
on DVD rather than go out. Do you think that there are enough others like
me
to cut into a film's box office take?

Matt

I don't think DVDs hurt the boxoffice.  First off, there really aren't that
many people with DVD players as compared to those that go to movies.  Also,
VHS rentals have been around for over twenty years and they haven't hurt the
boxoffice.

The studios know how to hype movies as if you're really going to be missing
something if you don't see it right away, and today's multiplex theatres
almost guarantee you'll get a seat to the film on some screen.

When it comes to theatres, DVDs, video. . . . It's all good.

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 8/14/01 7:14:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, slave1@...
writes:

he said Burton will need a come-down
period.  He only had two months to cut the film.

Heh, it shows ;)



I wanted to say something like that, but I'm kind of taking a break on
knocking the mentally handicapped (and I'm talking about how stupid the movie
is, not anybody in this group!).

-- Rory<.html

--- Jack Krueger <williejoe@...> wrote:

> I cannot fault anyone who's enjoying the new
> movie. I wish more people could, then the movie
> would be doing better. I think people will ease up
> on it when they examine it on DVD. It does have some
> really good things in it.
>
>
> - - - - - Unsigned
>

What a load of hugger-mugger!

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alexander Ruiz
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:36 AM
> Subject: [pota] Re: Alex Hollywood
>
>
> I'm not attacking Alex. I just can't help poke
> fun at him because he seems
> such an uncritical fan, but okay I won't do it any
> more.
>
>
> No harm done, I mean after all I am the one along
> with many others enjoying the new ape franchise. So
> pretty much I'm in ape heaven right now.
>
> Best,
> Al
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
> Terms of Service.
>
>

Wow!
That is the most revealing thing I've heard about the making of this picture
yet!
That certainly give us some insight into the machinations behind the scenes.

In a message dated 8/14/01 11:54:03 AM Central Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:

<< For example, do you think that people will be inclined to
skip a movie in the theater because it is so expensive, crowded, etc >>

I only know of one reason people don't like to go to movies. The disruptions!
People who talk during the film and kick the backs of chairs and bring
infants who cry all during it, but they never take them to the lobby. What
ever happened to ushers?

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----- Original Message -----

From: Kay53531@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 12:47 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] DVDetails

Matt I agree,people i work with say the same thing,that they will wait.I go
to see if the film is good and to see what i might buy on dvd.If i never seen
the film i rent it,and if it is great i buy!I recently picked up all three
DIE Hards on dvd Fox did a great job each has two dvds in the collectors
edition and disc two is Loaded with featurettes if your a Bruce Willis die
hard fan you must get these!Fox should do the apes tv series the same
way.there must be tons of footage from the show.Didnt Roddy take home movies
all the time?Bryan

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Rory! How come your e-mail doesn't say Haristas?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rory Monteith" <haristas@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Alex Hollywood


>
> --- Jack Krueger <williejoe@...> wrote:
> > I cannot fault anyone who's enjoying the new
> > movie. I wish more people could, then the movie
> > would be doing better. I think people will ease up
> > on it when they examine it on DVD. It does have some
> > really good things in it.
> >
> >
> > - - - - - Unsigned
> >
>
> What a load of hugger-mugger!
>
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alexander Ruiz
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:36 AM
> > Subject: [pota] Re: Alex Hollywood
> >
> >
> > I'm not attacking Alex. I just can't help poke
> > fun at him because he seems
> > such an uncritical fan, but okay I won't do it any
> > more.
> >
> >
> > No harm done, I mean after all I am the one along
> > with many others enjoying the new ape franchise. So
> > pretty much I'm in ape heaven right now.
> >
> > Best,
> > Al
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
> > Terms of Service.
> >
> >
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:07 PM

Subject: [pota] Poor Roddy

I saw this movie last night called "Shakma" from 1990.  In it a murderous
baboon escapes from a lab and roams a research building, killing teenage
students.  Roddy McDowall played their teacher and he got cornered in a
elevator where the baboon got him and ate his face off.

Poor Roddy!!

-- Rory

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 8/14/01 8:00:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Rory! How come your e-mail doesn't say Haristas?

Sometimes I answer from my Yahoo address.  (Interesting, isn't it?)<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 8/14/01 8:01:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Well, Roddy usually gives a good performance but his name in a movie is not
always a mark of quality. The guy was a workaholic and would take anything.
Did you see him in "Jungle Book 2" where he's this crazy leader of a chimp
society.

                                                                      - -
- - Jeff K.



Yeah, I saw that and I felt sorry for him, but I guess a gig is a gig.  Did
you notice the chimps in that movie?  They were almost hairless.  That means
they were under too much stress to perform and were probably being beaten.  
It made me sick to watch them.

-- Rory <.html

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Here's a funny pic. Especially if you are a sports fan...


Loc

.html I can imagine the casting director at the pre-production meetings: "Let's get that guy who was the king of the Apes in all those Ape moves!" I'd hate to think that Roddy's later career would emulate that of his screen charecter Peter Vincent from "Fright Night".
Best,
KEN

Jack Krueger wrote:

  Well, Roddy usually gives a good performance but his name in a movie is not always a mark of quality. The guy was a workaholic and would take anything. Did you see him in "Jungle Book 2" where he's this crazy leader of a chimp society.                                                                        - - - - Jeff K.  

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:07 PM

Subject: [pota] Poor Roddy

 I saw this movie last night called "Shakma" from 1990.  In it a murderous
baboon escapes from a lab and roams a research building, killing teenage
students.  Roddy McDowall played their teacher and he got cornered in a
elevator where the baboon got him and ate his face off.

Poor Roddy!!

-- Rory

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

<.html

You can blame the video age for the way people behave ( ahem) during movies. I
tend to think most people are use to talking during movies like they do at home
during a video. People with crying babies don't hear their own babies cry. We
never took our son to the movies until he was old enough to sit still. Even THAT
was a challenge when we took him to see the new APES film.
Best,
KEN

LordTZer0@... wrote:

> In a message dated 8/14/01 11:54:03 AM Central Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
> writes:
>
> << For example, do you think that people will be inclined to
> skip a movie in the theater because it is so expensive, crowded, etc >>
>
> I only know of one reason people don't like to go to movies. The disruptions!
> People who talk during the film and kick the backs of chairs and bring
> infants who cry all during it, but they never take them to the lobby. What
> ever happened to ushers?
>
>
>
>

In a message dated 8/15/01 3:28:44 AM Central Daylight Time,
kentaylor@... writes:

<< You can blame the video age for the way people behave ( ahem) during
movies.>>

I didn't

In a message dated 8/15/01 3:28:44 AM Central Daylight Time,
kentaylor@... writes:

<< You can blame the video age for the way people behave ( ahem) during
movies. >>

Oops. Not only can I type faster than I can think. I type faster than I
read.
But then again, no. I remember some rude people before they had video.
I don't know if there are more rude people or just less emphasis on manners.
I blame the break up of the home. Don't these people have fathers who'd
smack 'em when they get out of line? I'm sure mister cell phone in Canada
didn't.

SPOILER....



Some of you may have heard that Kevin Smith claimed that Tim Burton stole the
"Ape Lincoln" idea from one of his comic books. Here's what Kevin Smith has
to say about it....

BURTON

Lest anyone think some sort of holy jihad is brewing betwixt me and the
mighty Tim, I'd like to set the record straight here.

I've always enjoyed the films of Tim Burton to varying degrees. Nothing's
going to change that.

Yes - I worked on a 'Superman Lives' script that he shit-canned when he got
the gig helming it. Yes - I've told a very long-winded story about the saga
of 'Superman' at college gigs, comic book conventions, the Stern show, and on
Conan O'Brien (only when asked about it, though). Yes - I've signed many a
bootleg copy of my 'Superman Lives' script "Fuck Tim Burton," (with tongue
firmly planted in cheek).

But, no - I do not think the 'Planet of the Apes' ending was stolen from the
Jay and Silent Bob mini-series 'Chasing Dogma', nor am I thinking about
taking anyone to court. I called the similarities (which I believe are simply
coincidental) to the attention of my good friend Lou Loumenick over at the NY
Post and made a few jokey comments about being pissed and litigious that seem
to have been taken seriously by a slew of other news outlets (doesn't anybody
pick up a phone to confirm shit anymore, rather than just poaching a piece
out of another paper?). This story has gotten way out of hand.

If Tim, indeed, made that statement about never wanting to read anything I
created (although, in truth, the statement didn't come directly from his
lips; it was provided by the office of his publicist, Bumble Ward), that's
fine. I'll still be there on opening day for any Tim Burton movie, and I urge
you all to do the same. Because, whether he tells a coherent story or not,
he's still one of the most interesting (albeit testy, apparently) directors
working today. And that should always be supported.

So please, folks - let's drop the call to arms against the guy who gave us
'Beetlejuice' just because he's not a fan of my stuff. Shit, if you're gonna
go on the war-path against every motherfucker who doesn't care for my
particular brand of whimsy, you'll never have enough energy left to get your
asses to the theater on August 24th when 'Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back'
opens.

.html Well put Rory.
And who would want to own Shrek and all it's DVD added features if they hadn't seen it first at the movies?
Best,
KEN

Haristas@... wrote:

In a message dated 8/14/01 12:54:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:
 
 

While we're on the subject of DVDs, here's a question for the group.....do
you think that DVDs are in any way hurting the box office performance of
certain movies? For example, do you think that people will be inclined to
skip a movie in the theater because it is so expensive, crowded, etc and
people know that they will be able to watch it on DVD (probably with a
bunch
of extras) in a matter of months.

Personally speaking, I know this is the case for me. I have a 3 year old
son
and another baby on the way in October, so I rarely get a chance to get out
and see a movie. I had to make an exception for POTA and before that, the
last one I saw in a theater was Hannibal. I am lucky to have a pretty nice
home theater set up, so I am of the mindset that I can just wait to see
films
on DVD rather than go out. Do you think that there are enough others like
me
to cut into a film's box office take?

Matt
 
 
 

I don't think DVDs hurt the boxoffice.  First off, there really aren't that
many people with DVD players as compared to those that go to movies.  Also,
VHS rentals have been around for over twenty years and they haven't hurt the
boxoffice.

The studios know how to hype movies as if you're really going to be missing
something if you don't see it right away, and today's multiplex theatres
almost guarantee you'll get a seat to the film on some screen.

When it comes to theatres, DVDs, video. . . . It's all good.

-- Rory

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

<.html

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 4:20 PM

Subject: [pota] Check out A Leader in Planet of the Apes Information

Click here: A Leader in Planet of the Apes Information

There's a live chat going on right now here with "Planet of the Apes
Revisited" co-author Larry Landsman.

-- Rory

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