Hey Joe (no pun intended),

How old is Cougar?

Not that it matters, I would just LOVE to know.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: CheeseGOTAS@... [CheeseGOTAS@...]
Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2001 13:11
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Greetings!

Hey there, and welcome to the group!

My name's Joe. I'm the 'kid' (as Rory likes to say) here being only 15.
I've been growing up with APES all my life, so I'm not a 'newbie'. Meh.
Anyway, I look forward to discussing different things here with you. Have a
nice stay. ;)

-Joe.

You haven't seen Braveheart?

Well, it was a bit of a formula movie but pure entertainment and got you to
sit up in your chair and cheer for the "good" guy (though it was
historically inaccurate, but not so much as Battle for the POTA....).....

Oh never mind....

Oh yeah, and what the hell is Digest Number 660?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2001 17:31
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Digest Number 660

No offense, T. I haven't even seen "Braveheart". I was just providing a
little infighting to make Rich feel at home.

- - - - T's pal
Jeff

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From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Digest Number 660


> > You actually LIKED "Braveheart"?? You worthless piece of crap. You
wouldn't
> > know a good movie if Zanuck pointed it out to you!
>
> Hey Krueger!!! I never call people worthless pieces of crap, just the
> movies
> they like. No, wait a minute. . . Oh, never mind.
>
> -- Rory >>
>
> Oh was that Jeff? Sorry Rory. It just sounded like something you'd say.
>
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 12:13 AM

Subject: [pota] May Justice be served!

P.S. I admire Zanuck too, to a certain extent.

 

 

As all things of course. May Justice be served.

 

Just uploaded an exclusive with Mark Wahlberg:

He talks about the Planet of the Apes ending, Tim Burton and the sequel as well as his own plans for the sequel. This real player file also contains Walhberg and Heston at the premiere together...pretty cool.

 

www.calima5021.com/latest-news.htm

 

Best.

Al

 

P.S. Didn't mean to sound so hard on Eric Greene's review but all this comparing between Classic and Remake is really getting out of hand. Both films have their own imperfections so i just set the record straight.

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Yeah and how about that Aussie - what's his name?

And speaking of, when do you get the tape from Bryan???

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2001 17:53
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Digest Number 660

<< No offense, T. I haven't even seen "Braveheart". I was just providing a
little infighting to make Rich feel at home. >>

None taken. I thought as much. Back at ya!
But, if you must know...I did enjoy Braveheart.
Not only does it have infighting... But any film with
decapitations, can't be all bad. Pardon my reference, but...

Freeeeeeedooooommmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!

Everything is relative - and Ken and I are standin upside down in relation
to you guys on the other side of the world.

And Ken is Rupert Murdoch's bastard son, so be nice.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken & Heather Taylor [kentaylor@...]
Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2001 18:02
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] I thought NYC was in East America?

Thanks for geography lesson gang. I was actually being facetious.
Sorry...next topic?

In a message dated 9/2/01 2:24:42 AM, williejoe@... writes:

<< I admire Zanuck too, to a certain extent. >>

I think everyone is just jealous of Zanuck because he was the one doing Linda
Harrison back when she was the hottest girl on the PLANET.

Matt

.htmlIn a message dated 9/1/2001 10:07:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
alan@... writes:

No, that's only the Lawgiver statue in "Beneath". The Caesar statue in
"Battle" is a real tear, which is the ambiguity we're talking about.

Alan

You sure? I donno, maybe I got my movies messed up. I could have sworn that
Caesar cried blood at the end.

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/2/01 3:28:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

 No offense, T. I haven't even seen "Braveheart". I was just providing a
little infighting to make Rich feel at home.

                                                            - - - - T's pal
Jeff

"Braveheart" was excellent, by the way.  Too bad Gibson wasn't a POTA fan and
starred and directed the new movie (with his pal George Miller).

-- Rory

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/2/01 4:27:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@...
writes:

The original ape actors were supposed to do the monkey shines!  Those apes
were more like people who happened to look like apes!  And I found their
performances totally convincing for what they were supposed to be!          
 
Rory, back me!

Yes, the apes in the original film were supposed to be more advanced than
those in the new movie -- higher up on the evolutionary scale -- just as the
original is higher up on the scale than Burton's monkey mess on the floor.

Now, Ari and those other female chimps in Burton's poop?  Genetically
mixed-up FREAKS!

-- Rory<.html

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whitty@... writes:

Hey Joe (no pun intended),

How old is Cougar?

Not that it matters, I would just LOVE to know.

Michael

Michael,

Your pal, Mike (aka Mlccougar), is in his early thirties.   AND HE LOVES YOU
TOO!!!!!

-- Rory<.html

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whitty@... writes:

So does Rory,

He just has an anal monkey problem!!!

Oh, never mind.

And so do I appreciate your work.  And Rory's opinions.  And oxygen.  I
really, really appreciate oxygen.

Michael



Hey Mate,

Were you once bit by a rabid koala or a kookaburra?

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whitty@... writes:

Yeah and how about that Aussie - what's his name?

Michael

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/2/01 8:31:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:

<< I admire Zanuck too, to a certain extent. >>

I think everyone is just jealous of Zanuck because he was the one doing
Linda
Harrison back when she was the hottest girl on the PLANET.

Matt

You got that right, Matt!!!    God damn that Zanuck!  The lucky dog!

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williejoe@... writes:

Yes, Rory. That's pretty silly. We all know that the mutants of "Beneath"
and the mutants of "Battle" had nothing to do with each other. The mutants
of "Battle" became the Underdwellers of "Return to the POTA". Duh!          
                - - - - Jeff

STOOOOOPPP!!!  I CAN'T TAKE YOUR ILLUSIONS ANYMORE!!!  I CAN'T SEPERATE
THEM!!!

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williejoe@... writes:

Yes, Rory. That's pretty silly. We all know that the mutants of "Beneath"
and the mutants of "Battle" had nothing to do with each other. The mutants
of "Battle" became the Underdwellers of "Return to the POTA". Duh!          
                - - - - Jeff

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I have always been a fan of the POTA films
I just saw the film last night. I could not for the life of me,
understand the meaning of the end of the film!
Can someone clarify it for me?
R

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revadesigns@... writes:

I have always been a fan of the POTA films
I just saw the film last night. I could not for the life of me,
understand the meaning of the end of the film!
Can someone clarify it for me?
R

The meaning of the end of the film?   That the filmmakers hadn't a clue what
they were doing.  Pathetic.  I can still hear Boulle spinning in his grave.

-- Rory<.html

Like Rory said (kind of) - He is 30.

-Joe.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:40 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Oh nice!

In a message dated 9/2/01 4:27:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@...
writes:

The original ape actors were supposed to do the monkey shines!  Those apes
were more like people who happened to look like apes!  And I found their
performances totally convincing for what they were supposed to be!          
 
Rory, back me!

Yes, the apes in the original film were supposed to be more advanced than
those in the new movie -- higher up on the evolutionary scale -- just as the
original is higher up on the scale than Burton's monkey mess on the floor.

Now, Ari and those other female chimps in Burton's poop?  Genetically
mixed-up FREAKS!

-- Rory

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Burton's been watching too many Michael J. Fox movies.

----- Original Message -----
From: "reva mattson" <revadesigns@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 8:08 AM
Subject: [pota] re question


> I have always been a fan of the POTA films
> I just saw the film last night. I could not for the life of me,
> understand the meaning of the end of the film!
> Can someone clarify it for me?
> R
>
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 8:25 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] re question

In a message dated 9/2/01 11:09:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
revadesigns@... writes:

I have always been a fan of the POTA films
I just saw the film last night. I could not for the life of me,
understand the meaning of the end of the film!
Can someone clarify it for me?
R

The meaning of the end of the film?   That the filmmakers hadn't a clue what
they were doing.  Pathetic.  I can still hear Boulle spinning in his grave.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 10:35 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Oh nice!

Part of it is, I don't think the original had a lot of the options the new one had. A lavish set, ape school, CG FX. I'm sure it was like pulling teeth to get the makeup budget Chambers had. But the new movie had the option of a better script and chose not to use it.

 

                                                                            - - - - Jeff

 

 

 

I agree with you 100% Jeff. But that's just my point.

Instead of being so damn picky about it (not you). Just enjoy it for what it is. And that both have their imperfections. So the bottom line is that no one has the right to be so judgemental and just enjoy it for what it is. Two great and separate adventures on the Planet of the Apes.

 

Best.

Al

 

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In a message dated 9/2/01 7:14:47 AM Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< And speaking of, when do you get the tape from Bryan??? >>

I'd like to know that myself.
Hellooooo out there!
What's the word?

In a message dated 9/2/01 7:31:56 AM Central Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:

<< I think everyone is just jealous of Zanuck because he was the one doing
Linda
Harrison back when she was the hottest girl on the PLANET. >>

Who says money and power aren't aphrodisiacs?
You think he could get her if he managed a grocery store?
NO WAY!

In a message dated 9/2/01 8:12:49 AM Central Daylight Time, mflulder@...
writes:

<< You sure? I donno, maybe I got my movies messed up. I could have sworn
that
Caesar cried blood at the end. >>

Now that would have been cool!
And then we see the head explode in 3Ds.

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B

LordTZer0@... wrote:

In a message dated 9/2/01 8:12:49 AM Central Daylight Time, mflulder@...
writes:

<< You sure? I donno, maybe I got my movies messed up. I could have sworn
that
 Caesar cried blood at the end. >>

Now that would have been cool!
And then we see the head explode in 3Ds.

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<< More time than me. I would have to disagree with you there Chief. >>

Nonsense!
Now hold on there...
Both Hunter and Heston are Academy Award winning actors. And I would put
their performances against anyone in the new cast including Roth.
Granted Bonham-Carter and Duncan have both been nominated, but neither have
ever won. I won't even mention Wahlbergs performance. But to get back to
the facts. Yes, the new cast seemed more like apes, because they were asked
to be. The original cast weren't. Anyway, I'm trying to jack up the box
office as well. I'm on your side! I like the new movie. I've seen the thing
half a dozen times. And I'll probably see it again on Labor Day. Maybe you
have seen it more, but other than a few things I would have changed, (and if
Burton was honest, he probably would have to, if he had a chance to step back
from the work and look at it objectively) I enjoyed it. So get off my tits!
(this is just an expression, and is in no way meant to imply that I have
breasts)

In a message dated 9/2/01 12:47:08 PM Central Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< From moving lips to charater depth (on both sides) is only the beginning.
So lets just drop nonsence shall we. >>

By the way you misspelled nonsense as well.

<< Thank God things are sarting to come around again. Due in part with
Cameron and his hit Titanc, people just started to get sick of nonscenes
action and wanted more of meaningful stories. >>

Oh and I didn't think much of Titanic either.

How many ways can you misspell nonsense. anyway?

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 11:59 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Oh nice!

I agree with you Alex, except that if we're not picky then Hollywood doesn't get the message and keeps making movies that could be better. There's too many movie goers who aren't picky. So I'm glad there are people saying, "Uh uh. If you're going to call it "Planet of the Apes" you have to do a better job". But there's also a lot to admire in the new one too.

 

                                                                                   - - - Jeff

 

Well I think Hollywood stoped making good scripts about 20 years ago. When they sarted replacing charater depth with action. We can all thank Arnold and Sly for that. Thank God things are sarting to come around again. Due in part with Cameron and his hit Titanc, people just started to get sick of nonscenes action and wanted more of meaningful stories. After Titanic things were never the same for Arnold and Sly...THANK GOD! Although I wouldn't mind seeing a Terminator III :o)

 

Got to have my Terminator.

hehehe!!

 

Best.

Al

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Here's a couple of things...

Ari and Leo both lost their horses and had to cross on their own.
How did they get the extra horse later in the film?

Also, the effect where the sky isn't quite blue was achieved with a set of
varicolor lenses. They're only made for still cameras so they had to track
down the President on Paris and get a custom set made. There is only the
one. And it wouldn't fit the filter holders and was just barely big enough
to cover the lens, so it had to be taped over it. No mean feat in a dusty
location like Trona. I think the combination they used the most was orange
and purple. Then they would time the color to be about normal keying off the
flesh tones. But the filters are hard to get apart, and it was very hard for
them to get the exact same degree of rotation on them. Plus the effect is
unique. So it's different every time you change the camera angle to get a
different shot. Which if why the shots don't quite match up from scene to
scene. Not that it mattered much last night at one of the local schmega-plex
theaters. After the first reel they cut the wattage on the projectors bulb
and it was even darker than usual and you could hardly see the colors at all.
Can't really blame them though. They only pulled in 25 bucks on that last
show.

Well, Ari just fell off her horse. I'm guessing it didn't just run away.
Wouldn't it follow the other horses? I know I would.

-Joe.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 12:54 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Oh nice!

One month until the "Terminator" special edition DVD (the original).  He he he!

 

                                                                             - - - Jeff

 

 

I was going to ask you about that Jeff.

Thanks for the heads up.

 

Al

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<< How many ways can you misspell nonsense. anyway?

As many times as you talk shit. >>

Must have touched a nerve there.

I've seen some boxoffice sites that have it at # 10 and others that have it
at # 9.
Where's a good place to get the numbers, other than Variety.com.

.html In a message dated 9/2/01 3:28:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

 No offense, T. I haven't even seen "Braveheart". I was just providing a
little infighting to make Rich feel at home.

                                                            - - - - T's pal
Jeff

"Braveheart" was excellent, by the way.  Too bad Gibson wasn't a POTA fan and
starred and directed the new movie (with his pal George Miller).

-- Rory



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.html In a message dated 9/2/01 8:14:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

Yeah and how about that Aussie - what's his name?

Michael

Actually, Mel Gibson was born in upstate New York, in a town I used to live
in.

-- Rory

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.html In a message dated 9/2/01 8:31:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:

<< I admire Zanuck too, to a certain extent. >>

I think everyone is just jealous of Zanuck because he was the one doing
Linda
Harrison back when she was the hottest girl on the PLANET.

Matt

You got that right, Matt!!!    God damn that Zanuck!  The lucky dog!

-- Rory

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"Tim Roth's performance along would blow away any of the original actors...And you know that for a fact."

 

After everything was said and done, I thought that Thade was a pretty one-dimensional villain.  A little too over-the-top, jumping around and just seething.  More like a characature of a villain.  The only thing he didn't say was the ole one-liner "After them you fools!" ala Skeletor.

 

Still, you have to grab onto whatever you can with this film, so when compared with the rest of the film, I guess that yes that performance was pretty good.

 

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Shelby Rhodes

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 2:41 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Oh nice!

 

"Tim Roth's performance along would blow away any of the original actors...And you know that for a fact."

 

After everything was said and done, I thought that Thade was a pretty one-dimensional villain.  A little too over-the-top, jumping around and just seething.  More like a characature of a villain.  The only thing he didn't say was the ole one-liner "After them you fools!" ala Skeletor.

 

Still, you have to grab onto whatever you can with this film, so when compared with the rest of the film, I guess that yes that performance was pretty good.

 

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 1:50 PM

Subject: [pota] A Contradicting World

No No No!!!  Zanuck is gay!!!  Linda was just assisting his illusion!!!!

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [mailto:Haristas@...]
Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 0:52
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: A Contradicting World

In a message dated 9/2/01 8:31:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:

<< I admire Zanuck too, to a certain extent. >>

I think everyone is just jealous of Zanuck because he was the one doing
Linda
Harrison back when she was the hottest girl on the PLANET.

Matt

You got that right, Matt!!!    God damn that Zanuck!  The lucky dog!

-- Rory

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/2/01 4:58:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

Ummm.....I heard it was New Zeaand but I believe you.

He does consider himself an Aussie though.....

Oh never mind!

Michael



He was born on January 3, 1956 in Peekskill, New York, but I believe his
father moved the family to Australia when Mel was between 5 and 10 years old.
 Yeah, he does consider himself Australian -- not that there's anything wrong
with that!

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 9/2/01 1:24:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

 Part of it is, I don't think the original had a lot of the options the new
one had. A lavish set, ape school, CG FX. I'm sure it was like pulling
teeth to get the makeup budget Chambers had. But the new movie had the
option of a better script and chose not to use it.

                                                                           
- - - - Jeff



Did they have the option of a better script?  Who's writing the better
scripts these days, and more importantly who at the top knows good from bad
anymore?

-- Rory<.html

At Suncoast Video they have their "Ape" stuff marked down 25%. I picked up
a coffee cup and some stickers. My favorite paws down is the Attar keychain
Rory mentioned. You can make his lips curl back and bare his teeth. It's
more entertaining than the movie! Most of the stuff (T-shirts, glasses, a
calendar) is pedestrian.

There's as big display for, of all things, "Beetlejuice". There's T-shirts,
cups, same stuff as "Apes". I guess thanks to the selling power of "The
Nightmare Before Christmas" there's a run on all things Burtonian. Even Pee
Wee Herman is making a comeback. As Tim Burton's accountant would say, "He
he he he!".


Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 1:32 PM
Subject: [pota] Numbers


>
>
> I've seen some boxoffice sites that have it at # 10 and others that have
it
> at # 9.
> Where's a good place to get the numbers, other than Variety.com.
>
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.htmlIn a message dated 9/2/01 1:47:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

More time than me. I would have to disagree with you there Chief.

As for the originals, I love the original actors just as much as anyone
here, but truth is truth. Tim Roth's performance along would blow away any
of the original actors...And you know that for a fact. But while each has
it's own imperfections they both stand as two great and balanced films. All
I'm saying is stop being so damn picky. BECAUSE NO ONE HERE HAS THE RIGHT
TO BE.



No one here has the right to be so picky?!!!!    Who says?  And who says what
anyone else knows for a fact?    This is a very disturbing e-mail here.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:01 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Mel

In a message dated 9/2/01 4:58:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

Ummm.....I heard it was New Zeaand but I believe you.

He does consider himself an Aussie though.....

Oh never mind!

Michael

He was born on January 3, 1956 in Peekskill, New York, but I believe his
father moved the family to Australia when Mel was between 5 and 10 years old.
 Yeah, he does consider himself Australian -- not that there's anything wrong
with that!

-- Rory

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/2/01 1:30:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Wasn't it nice of them to acknowledge Boulle, Serling and Wilson? I bet
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In a message dated 9/2/01 3:58:29 PM Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< Ummm.....I heard it was New Zeaand but I believe you. >>

Nope he's right.
Mel's a native New Yawker.

<< Not at all, just speaking the truth as I always do. >>


Then allow me to do the same.
You sitting back and watching your bootleg video isn't helping the cause.
How many times have you plunked down money at the box-office?

In a message dated 9/2/01 4:36:03 PM Central Daylight Time, slave1@...
writes:

<< "After them you fools!" ala Skeletor. >>

I never heard Zanuck say that.

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<< He was born on January 3, 1956 in Peekskill, New York, but I believe his
father moved the family to Australia when Mel was between 5 and 10 years
old. >>


I heard he was 12 when he moved.

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Brian

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

 You are all making me cry with this silly discussion.  Sheesh!

Check out the CAESAR fund raiser and you can make it cry whatever you want!
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Great piece of work there Brian.

As you know I always tell the truth.

Best.

Al
 
 
 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 4:23 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Crying Lawgiver's & CAESARs

Well then, Alex, tell me what you thought of Jeepers Creepers, and don't hold back!  I can take it.  Just remember that we made and shot everything for that film in 14 and a half weeks!!!   Make-up effects at the speed of light!!!

-Brian

 

Sorry Brian but...YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

Just kidding, I haven't see it yet but planing on going tomorrow after I drop by Suncoast Video for my POTA goodies. I'll give you a full report tomorrow.

Is Tim Roth in it? Just kidding.

Over and out again.

hehehe!!!

Al

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/2/01 7:09:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@...
writes:

<< He was born on January 3, 1956 in Peekskill, New York, but I believe his
father moved the family to Australia when Mel was between 5 and 10 years
old. >>


I heard he was 12 when he moved.

Okay, I stand corrected.  I really couldn't remember.

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/2/01 7:59:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

I feel kinda guilty now about bringing up the details about Zanuck and
Linda. Even though it's public knowledge in books. It was kinda tacky to
bring it up. Everybody's human. Sorry, Mr. Zanuck, wherever you are.

Alex - -

Ape stuff is on sale at my Suncoast, don't know about yours. Hope it works
out.                                          

                                                                      - -
- - Jeff



It didn't bother half as much as certain other person's postings today.  Boy,
does he give APES' fans a bad name!  And he's just as judgmental as they come
-- hypocrite.  And I know you're so vain, you'll think it is YOU!

-- Rory

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<< It didn't bother half as much as certain other person's postings today.
Boy,
does he give APES' fans a bad name! And he's just as judgmental as they
come
-- hypocrite. And I know you're so vain, you'll think it is YOU! >>

I know it can't be me. Because I know, as someone pointed out, I'm full of
shit.
So, you can bet, I know it when I see it.

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I would be very grateful if any US readers (who are also advanced POTA
collectors and might have a list of the new POTA film's US or
international licensee listing) can mention if any US company issued
any 4 x 6 color postcard/s on decent cardboard stock (whether they can
be purchased or are free doesn't matter) featuring the new POTA film's
same color film poster artwork and the title of the film,on the
front.

I'd appreciate it if the company's name and address can be passed
on,or if any tip on how to find out their address,can be offered.
Plus do they issue in the US,other similar 4 x 6 postcards of other
new films,featuring the film poster artwork and / or film title,
minitiarised onto a 4 x 6 size postcard.

I'm not referring to stills sets,that are 11 x 14 or 8 x 10 in size.

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No, but if you find any let me know.

<< I know it can't be me. Because I know, as someone pointed out, I'm full
of
shit. So, you can bet, I know it when I see it.>>

<< Don't be so hard on yourself. >>

Is Alex the only one who didn't get this?
I sure hope so! But enough of this infighting.
I'm sure Rich feels right at home by now.
If he hasn't unsubscribed that is.

<< No No No!!! Zanuck is gay!!! Linda was just assisting his illusion!!!!

>>

I hope he is!
I'm glad she split the square!
She should be with a real man!
Like ummmmm ............. Me !

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:01 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Mel

In a message dated 9/2/01 4:58:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

Ummm.....I heard it was New Zeaand but I believe you.

He does consider himself an Aussie though.....

Oh never mind!

Michael

He was born on January 3, 1956 in Peekskill, New York, but I believe his
father moved the family to Australia when Mel was between 5 and 10 years old.
 Yeah, he does consider himself Australian -- not that there's anything wrong
with that!

-- Rory

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I speak only the truth.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 17:28
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] A Contradicting World


<< No No No!!! Zanuck is gay!!! Linda was just assisting his illusion!!!!

>>

I hope he is!
I'm glad she split the square!
She should be with a real man!
Like ummmmm ............. Me !

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prophecysite@... writes:

Hey Hey Hey!!!

Don't you dare talk about SIR GENERAL THADE like that! SIR GENERAL THADE
will take LISA and have his way with her right in front of CAESAR! Then
he'll take CAESAR and kick his ass up and down and all around the PLANET OF
THE APES. Then he'll separate the cheaks of his ass and ask "IS THERE A
SOUL IN THERE??!!"

hehehe!!!
Just joking Shelby. :o)
Al


This is what comes from seeing a certain movie too many times!

-- Rory
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.htmlIn a message dated 9/3/01 3:59:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

Sorry Jeff - can you clarify?  Are you saying Mel is homo-phobic?

Michael



Not only that, but he votes Republican!!!   Damn conservative orangutan!  
(Although maybe because in Australia the conservatives are the liberals, he's
a little confused here in the States.)

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Hey Hey Hey!!!

Don't you dare talk about SIR GENERAL THADE like that! SIR GENERAL THADE will take LISA and have his way with her right in front of CAESAR! Then he'll take CAESAR and kick his ass up and down and all around the PLANET OF THE APES. Then he'll separate the cheaks of his ass and ask "IS THERE A SOUL IN THERE??!!"

 

hehehe!!!

Just joking Shelby. :o)

Al

 

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>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@...>
>Subject: SIR GENERAL THADE
>After everything was said and done, I thought that Thade was a pretty

one-dimensional villain.

>Hey Hey Hey!!!
>Don't you dare talk about SIR GENERAL THADE like that! SIR GENERAL THADE

will take LISA and have his way with her right in front of CAESAR! Then
he'll take CAESAR and kick his ass up and down and all around the PLANET OF
THE APES. Then he'll separate the cheaks of his ass and ask "IS THERE A
SOUL IN THERE??!!"

>hehehe!!!
>Just joking Shelby. :o)

Oh.... my......

>From: LordTZer0@...
>Subject: Re: Re: Hanging my head in shame
>Is Alex the only one who didn't get this?
>I sure hope so! But enough of this infighting.
>I'm sure Rich feels right at home by now.
>If he hasn't unsubscribed that is.

Heh heh -- oh, I'm still here, and no, I didn't get it either. :)

>From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
>Subject: RE: Mel
>Sorry Jeff - can you clarify? Are you saying Mel is homo-phobic?

If so, he did a pretty good job of putting that aside in "What Women Want"
when dressed in panty hose, a bra, and make-up. So my guess would be, "No,
he's not." But, then, what do I know...

>From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
>Subject: Re: Digest Number 660
>No offense, T. I haven't even seen "Braveheart". I was just providing a
>little infighting to make Rich feel at home.

LOL!!

>From: LordTZer0@...
>Subject: Re: Digest Number 660
>None taken. I thought as much. Back at ya!
>But, if you must know...I did enjoy Braveheart.
>Not only does it have infighting... But any film with
>decapitations, can't be all bad. Pardon my reference, but...
>Freeeeeeedooooommmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!

Personally, I loved Braveheart and am surprised at how many people here
seem not to. To each, their own, of course.

>I agree with you Alex, except that if we're not picky then Hollywood

doesn't get the message and keeps making movies that could be better.
There's too many movie goers who aren't picky. So I'm glad there are people
saying, "Uh uh. If you're going to call it "Planet of the Apes" you have to
do a better job". But there's also a lot to admire in the new one too.

>

- - - Jeff

I agree. While the originals are certainly better, there were a lot of
things I liked about the new one as well, faults though it may have.

>From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
>Subject: What the hell is Digest Number 660?
>Oh yeah, and what the hell is Digest Number 660?

Well, here's the thing -- yahoogroups gives the option of receiving list
emails all at once, in digest form, or as they come one at a time. On a
list like this, where you could get 100 a day, some prefer not to have
thier mailboxes filled, so they change their preferences at yahoogroups.com
to get it in digests of 25. When they arrive, they have the subject line
"[pota] Digest Number ___" and right now, this list is almost up to #670.
I hope that clears it up for ya'!

>From: MTotsky@...
>Subject: Re: Re: A Contradicting World
>I think everyone is just jealous of Zanuck because he was the one doing

Linda

>Harrison back when she was the hottest girl on the PLANET.

I'll admit it -- I sure am.

>From: Haristas@...
>Subject: Re: Mel
>Actually, Mel Gibson was born in upstate New York, in a
>town I used to live in.

You're from Peekskill, then, if my memory serves me, right? Greetings,
Highlander -- I'm from Poughkeepsie and know your area well.

>> Yes, Rory. That's pretty silly. We all know that the mutants of "Beneath"
>> and the mutants of "Battle" had nothing to do with each other. The mutants
>> of "Battle" became the Underdwellers of "Return to the POTA". Duh!

Okay, everyone chant with me... "Usa! Usa! Usa! Usa! Usa! Usa!"

>From: reva mattson <revadesigns@...>
>Subject: re question
>I have always been a fan of the POTA films
>I just saw the film last night. I could not for the life of me,
>understand the meaning of the end of the film!
>Can someone clarify it for me?

Sure -- Tim Burton did a little too much drugs in the 60s.

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.htmlRight now on the Sci-Fi Channel they are showing "The Island of Dr. Moreau"
(and letterboxed, too!).  What I'm struck by, not having seen this film in
years, is how close some of Chambers 'manimal' make-ups are to what Rick
Baker did in the new POTA.  Richard Basehart's "Sayer of the Law" looks
almost exactly like David Warner's make-up.

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.htmlI want to tell anyone interested here that if you have the American Movie
Classics Channel you might want to check out, if you've never seen it, a film
called "100 Rifles" (1969).  It's on three times on Wednesday, Sept. 5th (at
2 pm, 10 pm, and 3:45 am EST).

It stars Raquel Welch, Jim Brown and Burt Reynolds, but it's Fernando Lamas
who's a real hoot as a Mexican General.  The movie is not great but it has
its moments.  If you need to relate it to APES, think of the Mexican army as
the gorillas and the Yaqui Indians as the humans.

But what really connects this to APES is that it's a Fox film, has another
kick-ass Jerry Goldsmith score, and there's this actor named Hans Gudegast in
it you might want to check out.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:50 AM

Subject: RE: [pota] Mel

Sorry Jeff - can you clarify?  Are you saying Mel is homo-phobic?

 

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 8:11
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Mel

 Yeah, but Mel thinks there's anything wrong with being gay.

 

                                                                                   - - - Jeff

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:01 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Mel

In a message dated 9/2/01 4:58:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

Ummm.....I heard it was New Zeaand but I believe you.

He does consider himself an Aussie though.....

Oh never mind!

Michael

He was born on January 3, 1956 in Peekskill, New York, but I believe his
father moved the family to Australia when Mel was between 5 and 10 years old.
 Yeah, he does consider himself Australian -- not that there's anything wrong
with that!

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 11:35 PM

Subject: [pota] SIR GENERAL THADE

After everything was said and done, I thought that Thade was a pretty one-dimensional villain. 

 

Shelby

 

Hey Hey Hey!!!

Don't you dare talk about SIR GENERAL THADE like that! SIR GENERAL THADE will take LISA and have his way with her right in front of CAESAR! Then he'll take CAESAR and kick his ass up and down and all around the PLANET OF THE APES. Then he'll separate the cheaks of his ass and ask "IS THERE A SOUL IN THERE??!!"

 

hehehe!!!

Just joking Shelby. :o)

Al

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 8:01 AM

Subject: [pota] John Chambers' labors on Labor Day

Right now on the Sci-Fi Channel they are showing "The Island of Dr. Moreau"
(and letterboxed, too!).  What I'm struck by, not having seen this film in
years, is how close some of Chambers 'manimal' make-ups are to what Rick
Baker did in the new POTA.  Richard Basehart's "Sayer of the Law" looks
almost exactly like David Warner's make-up.

-- Rory

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williejoe@... writes:

Hey Rory, did you ever find "Starlog"? Even Rick Baker told me he read it.
Get away from that boob tube and go find it, young man!                     
                                    - - - Jeff

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