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Group: pota Message: 10708 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 9/3/2001
Subject: Re: Lisa Marie on Ebay
Group: pota Message: 10709 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/3/2001
Subject: Here's my wallclock
Group: pota Message: 10710 From: Lynne Miller Date: 9/3/2001
Subject: Re: Oh nice!
Group: pota Message: 10711 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/3/2001
Subject: Re: Oh nice!
Group: pota Message: 10712 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/3/2001
Subject: Re: Lisa Marie on Ebay
Group: pota Message: 10713 From: Shelby Rhodes Date: 9/3/2001
Subject: Re: Lisa Marie on Ebay
Group: pota Message: 10714 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/3/2001
Subject: Re: Lisa Marie on Ebay
Group: pota Message: 10715 From: CheeseGOTAS@aol.com Date: 9/3/2001
Subject: Horses and evolution.
Group: pota Message: 10716 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/3/2001
Subject: Re: Horses and evolution.
Group: pota Message: 10717 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Oh nice!
Group: pota Message: 10718 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Horses and evolution.
Group: pota Message: 10719 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Oh nice!
Group: pota Message: 10720 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Horses and evolution.
Group: pota Message: 10721 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Oh nice!
Group: pota Message: 10722 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Horses and evolution.
Group: pota Message: 10723 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Horses and evolution.
Group: pota Message: 10724 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Horses and evolution.
Group: pota Message: 10725 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10726 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: CAESAR
Group: pota Message: 10727 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Horses and evolution.
Group: pota Message: 10728 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Oh nice!
Group: pota Message: 10729 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Horses and evolution.
Group: pota Message: 10730 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10731 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Here's my wallclock
Group: pota Message: 10732 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Jeepers, Brian!
Group: pota Message: 10733 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Horses and evolution.
Group: pota Message: 10734 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Pauline Kael (1919 - 2001)
Group: pota Message: 10735 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: New POTA 2001 Kubrick Figures
Group: pota Message: 10736 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Here's my wallclock
Group: pota Message: 10737 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Jeepers, Brian!
Group: pota Message: 10738 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Pauline Kael (1919 - 2001)
Group: pota Message: 10739 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Jeepers, Brian!
Group: pota Message: 10740 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10741 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: New POTA 2001 Kubrick Figures?
Group: pota Message: 10742 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10743 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10744 From: Brian Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Jeepers Creepers vs APES
Group: pota Message: 10745 From: Brian Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: CAESAR FUND RAISER
Group: pota Message: 10746 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: "Apes" 2?
Group: pota Message: 10747 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Jeepers, look at Brian's wallet!
Group: pota Message: 10748 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10749 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10750 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Jeepers Creepers vs APES
Group: pota Message: 10751 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Jeepers Creepers vs APES
Group: pota Message: 10752 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: "Apes" 2?
Group: pota Message: 10753 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10754 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10755 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10756 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: "Apes" 2?
Group: pota Message: 10757 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: WOW!
Group: pota Message: 10758 From: Melkor Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: New POTA 2001 Kubrick Figures
Group: pota Message: 10759 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: WOW!
Group: pota Message: 10760 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Being fair with Rory
Group: pota Message: 10761 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: WOW!
Group: pota Message: 10762 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: WOW!
Group: pota Message: 10763 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Being fair with Rory
Group: pota Message: 10764 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Being fair with Rory
Group: pota Message: 10765 From: Melkor Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: "Apes" 2?
Group: pota Message: 10766 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Film Score Monthly and Cinescape
Group: pota Message: 10767 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: "Apes" 2?
Group: pota Message: 10768 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Being fair with Rory
Group: pota Message: 10769 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10770 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Film Score Monthly and Cinescape
Group: pota Message: 10771 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Being fair with Rory
Group: pota Message: 10772 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Film Score Monthly and Cinescape
Group: pota Message: 10773 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: "Apes" 2?
Group: pota Message: 10774 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Film Score Monthly and Cinescape
Group: pota Message: 10775 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Being fair with Rory
Group: pota Message: 10776 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: "Apes" 2?
Group: pota Message: 10777 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Being fair with Rory
Group: pota Message: 10778 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Film Score Monthly and Cinescape
Group: pota Message: 10779 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Being fair with Rory
Group: pota Message: 10780 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
Subject: Re: Being fair with Rory
Group: pota Message: 10781 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Re: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10782 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Re: Film Score Monthly and Cinescape
Group: pota Message: 10783 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10784 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Re: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10785 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Sam
Group: pota Message: 10786 From: J. Crawford Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: rather watch [was Re: [pota] Digest Number 661]
Group: pota Message: 10787 From: J. Crawford Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: spinning Boulle (was Re: [pota] Digest Number 664)
Group: pota Message: 10788 From: J. Crawford Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Some Asian Box Office #'s
Group: pota Message: 10789 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Re: New POTA 2001 Kubrick Figures?
Group: pota Message: 10790 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Re: rather watch [was Re: [pota] Digest Number 661]
Group: pota Message: 10791 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Jeff Kruegar's emails
Group: pota Message: 10792 From: CheeseGOTAS@aol.com Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Re: Jeff Kruegar's emails
Group: pota Message: 10793 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Re: Jeff Kruegar's emails
Group: pota Message: 10794 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Yeah!
Group: pota Message: 10795 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Re: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10796 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Re: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10797 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: New POTA 2001 Kubrick Figures?
Group: pota Message: 10798 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: The skinny
Group: pota Message: 10799 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Re: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10800 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Check out NFR Nominations
Group: pota Message: 10801 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Re: Yeah!
Group: pota Message: 10802 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Re: Yeah!
Group: pota Message: 10803 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/5/2001
Subject: Re: Yeah!
Group: pota Message: 10804 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/6/2001
Subject: sMel
Group: pota Message: 10805 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/6/2001
Subject: Re: Yeah!
Group: pota Message: 10806 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/6/2001
Subject: Re: Yeah!
Group: pota Message: 10807 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/6/2001
Subject: Re: Yeah!



Group: pota Message: 10708 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 9/3/2001
Subject: Re: Lisa Marie on Ebay
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Shelby Rhodes wrote:

Hey guys, check out the autographed pic of Lisa Marie on Ebay.  I didn't realize how ugly she was without makeup.  That's Hollywood I guess  :( http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1459737892
 



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Group: pota Message: 10709 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/3/2001
Subject: Here's my wallclock
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    Thanks again Jeff!
    I owe you one!
     
    Best.
    Al
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    Group: pota Message: 10710 From: Lynne Miller Date: 9/3/2001
    Subject: Re: Oh nice!
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    OK, Alex, how many times have you seen it now?  It's been 5 for me, and I would have gone more if I didn't have to work all the blasted time...

    ....a short note from *Lynne*...a longer one probably tomorrow....

    >From: "Alexander Ruiz"
    >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    >To:
    >Subject: [pota] Re: Oh nice!
    >Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 15:42:25 -0400
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    >Nonsense!
    >Now hold on there...
    >
    >
    >Hold on to what?
    >The fact that I have it 2001 on VHS, or the fact that I know all 5 original films word for word?
    >
    >You've seen it more times than me? I don't think so.
    >
    >Best.
    >Al
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    Group: pota Message: 10711 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/3/2001
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    OK, Alex, how many times have you seen it now?  It's been 5 for me, and I would have gone more if I didn't have to work all the blasted time...

     

    Ten times...and it would have been an 11th today after Jeepers Creepers but I had some things to do. Buy POTA merchandise! hehehe!!

    Best.

    Al

     

     

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    Group: pota Message: 10712 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/3/2001
    Subject: Re: Lisa Marie on Ebay
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    Hey guys, check out the autographed pic of Lisa Marie on Ebay.  I didn't realize how ugly she was without makeup.  That's Hollywood I guess  :( http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1459737892
     
     
    I'm sorry Shelby...but that is NOT SIR LISA MARIE!
    I AM SORRY...
     
    Best.
    Al :o)
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    Group: pota Message: 10713 From: Shelby Rhodes Date: 9/3/2001
    Subject: Re: Lisa Marie on Ebay
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    Hey guys, check out the autographed pic of Lisa Marie on Ebay.  I didn't realize how ugly she was without makeup.  That's Hollywood I guess  :( http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1459737892
     
     
    I'm sorry Shelby...but that is NOT SIR LISA MARIE!
    I AM SORRY...
     
    Best.
    Al :o)
     
    Oh Alex, it was a joke . . . just like the flick from this summer ;)
     
     
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    Group: pota Message: 10714 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/3/2001
    Subject: Re: Lisa Marie on Ebay
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    Oh Alex, it was a joke . . . just like the flick from this summer ;)
     
     
    Oh Oh...now that did hurt.
    May the ALMIGHTY SIR GENERAL THADE forgive you.
     
    Best.
    Al
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    Group: pota Message: 10715 From: CheeseGOTAS@aol.com Date: 9/3/2001
    Subject: Horses and evolution.
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    This has been bugging me for awhile -

    There's horses in the Apes films, right? Well then... how come these
    horses don't 'evolve' at all, eh? I mean, they're just there - You
    don't really seem to notice them much. They only serve as
    transportation, nothing great.

    So, yeah, wanna give your theories on why the horses didn't evolve at
    all? This is really starting to annoy me... well, not really. I
    just want opinions. :)

    -Joe.
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    Group: pota Message: 10716 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/3/2001
    Subject: Re: Horses and evolution.
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    This has been bugging me for awhile -

    There's horses in the Apes films, right?  Well then... how come these
    horses don't 'evolve' at all, eh?  I mean, they're just there - You
    don't really seem to notice them much.  They only serve as
    transportation, nothing great.

    So, yeah, wanna give your theories on why the horses didn't evolve at
    all?  This is really starting to annoy me... well, not really.  I
    just want opinions.  :)

    -Joe.
     
    I guess for the same reason they don't evolve beyond the point they do here on earth. You want Mr. ED the talking horse? Go rent the video. (just kidding)
    These apes were geneticly engineered...were you paying attention at all to the movie? "Geneticly Cromozone Inhansed". As Leo put it.
     
    Best.
    Al
     
     
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    Group: pota Message: 10717 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: Re: Oh nice!
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    << OK, Alex, how many times have you seen it now? It's been 5 for me, and I
    would have gone more if I didn't have to work all the blasted time... >>

    Today makes 7 for me.

    And I was gratified to see I was not alone. There were about 30 others watch
    as well. When you consider that there are only about three other movies that
    have had a bigger opening day. And other block busters like Shrek and The
    Mummy Returns have been at the box office for weeks and weeks, it really
    hasn't done badly for it's self. There may be a sequel yet! Let's just get
    a better story next time.
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    Group: pota Message: 10718 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: Re: Horses and evolution.
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    << So, yeah, wanna give your theories on why the horses didn't evolve at
    all? This is really starting to annoy me... well, not really. I
    just want opinions. :) >>


    They started with Eohippuses and bred them up.
    They're easier to store on the space station than evolved horses.
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    Group: pota Message: 10719 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: Re: Oh nice!
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    Today makes 7 for me.

    And I was gratified to see I was not alone.  There were about 30 others watch
    as well.  When you consider that there are only about three other movies that
    have had a bigger opening day.  And other block busters like Shrek and The
    Mummy Returns have been at the box office for weeks and weeks, it really
    hasn't done badly for it's self.  There may be a sequel yet!  Let's just get
    a better story next time.
     
    I fully agree with you.
    At least with some more depth in the characters. The story was fast pased and never a daul moment for me, but that's no sub for character depth.
    At least the next time around I want to know what size underwear everyone is using!
     
    Geeez, it that too much to ask?
     
    Best.
    Al
     
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    Group: pota Message: 10720 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
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    They started with Eohippuses and bred them up.
    They're easier to store on the space station than evolved horses.
     
    Works for me! :o)
     
    Best.
    Al
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    Group: pota Message: 10721 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: Re: Oh nice!
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    << At least the next time around I want to know what size underwear everyone
    is using!

    Geeez, it that too much to ask? >>

    I dunno Al . . . maybe the underpants gnomes can find out for you.
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    Group: pota Message: 10722 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: Re: Horses and evolution.
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    .htmlIn a message dated 9/3/01 10:40:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    CheeseGOTAS@... writes:


    This has been bugging me for awhile -

    There's horses in the Apes films, right?  Well then... how come these
    horses don't 'evolve' at all, eh?  I mean, they're just there - You
    don't really seem to notice them much.  They only serve as
    transportation, nothing great.

    So, yeah, wanna give your theories on why the horses didn't evolve at
    all?  This is really starting to annoy me... well, not really.  I
    just want opinions.  :)

    -Joe.




    Maybe before it was the planet of the apes it was the planet of the horses.  
    But I think there were horses in the new film simply because there were
    horses in the original, and the new movie really is just a pale copy of the
    original with a few changes.

    Oh no, there I go again.  I guess I'll be hearing from Alex now.

    -- Rory
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    Group: pota Message: 10723 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: Re: Horses and evolution.
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    Maybe before it was the planet of the apes it was the planet of the horses.  
    But I think there were horses in the new film simply because there were
    horses in the original, and the new movie really is just a pale copy of the
    original with a few changes.

    Oh no, there I go again.  I guess I'll be hearing from Alex now.

    -- Rory
     
     
    SAY WHAT!!!
    HOW DARE YOU!!!
     
    Or maybe they were used in the movie just to save time traveling to Calima.
    No internet at the time. :o)
     
    Best.
    Al
     
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    Group: pota Message: 10724 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: Horses and evolution.
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    Maybe they just CHOOSE not to talk - I mean the way they treat them.....

    Michael

    -----Original Message-----
    From: CheeseGOTAS@... [CheeseGOTAS@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 12:39
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] Horses and evolution.

    This has been bugging me for awhile -

    There's horses in the Apes films, right? Well then... how come these
    horses don't 'evolve' at all, eh? I mean, they're just there - You
    don't really seem to notice them much. They only serve as
    transportation, nothing great.

    So, yeah, wanna give your theories on why the horses didn't evolve at
    all? This is really starting to annoy me... well, not really. I
    just want opinions. :)

    -Joe.





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    Group: pota Message: 10725 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/4/2001
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    Hmmm....I guess it is his choice to be homophopic (if he is), but it would also be his choice to be homicidal - not a good choice in either scenario.
     
    I never heard any of those statements and I certainly would not agree with them.  People should be free to choose and express their individual preferences - and respect each other for them.
     
    No, there is nothing wrong with being a devout Catholic - but there is something wrong with thinking that being a devout Catholic means you have to say bad things about homosexuals.  I mean Jesus was a radical in his time, and whether he was the son of god or not, he taught that above all things we should treat one another as we expect to be treated.....and that's just plain common sense!
     
    So sorry about Mel.  I hear he was born in New York............let's talk about some Aussies!  Now Russell Crowe......he can act....
     
    Michael
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 3:01
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel

      I don't know if he's homophobic or not - - which is his choice. But there's been some statements along those lines attributed to him. Hurtful statements.  I hear he's a devout Catholic. Not that there's anything wrong with that.                       - - - Jeff
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:50 AM
    Subject: RE: [pota] Mel

    Sorry Jeff - can you clarify?  Are you saying Mel is homo-phobic?
     
    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
    Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 8:11
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel

     Yeah, but Mel thinks there's anything wrong with being gay.
     
                                                                                       - - - Jeff
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:01 PM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel

    In a message dated 9/2/01 4:58:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    whitty@... writes:


    Ummm.....I heard it was New Zeaand but I believe you.


    He does consider himself an Aussie though.....

    Oh never mind!

    Michael



    He was born on January 3, 1956 in Peekskill, New York, but I believe his
    father moved the family to Australia when Mel was between 5 and 10 years old.
     Yeah, he does consider himself Australian -- not that there's anything wrong
    with that!

    -- Rory


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    Group: pota Message: 10726 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: CAESAR
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    Man, that's pretty!
     
    Michael
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Brian [apeman@...]
    Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 5:31
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] Crying Lawgiver's & CAESARs

    You are all making me cry with this silly discussion.  Sheesh!

    Check out the CAESAR fund raiser and you can make it cry whatever you want!
    <http://apemania.com/CaesarFund.htm>

    B


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    Group: pota Message: 10727 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
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    Presumably the horses were native to the planet. They weren't tampered
    with genetically, so they're just horses. For that matter there may have
    been apes and humans native to the planet. The new arrival apes perhaps
    interbred with them (Hasslein's nightmare come true) helping along the
    species. The movie asks us to swallow a lot more than that.
    - -
    - - Jeff


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: <CheeseGOTAS@...>
    To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 7:38 PM
    Subject: [pota] Horses and evolution.


    > This has been bugging me for awhile -
    >
    > There's horses in the Apes films, right? Well then... how come these
    > horses don't 'evolve' at all, eh? I mean, they're just there - You
    > don't really seem to notice them much. They only serve as
    > transportation, nothing great.
    >
    > So, yeah, wanna give your theories on why the horses didn't evolve at
    > all? This is really starting to annoy me... well, not really. I
    > just want opinions. :)
    >
    > -Joe.
    >
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    Told you! "Jay and Silent Bob" are inspiring people to see it
    - - - - Jeff


    ----- Original Message -----
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    Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 3:06 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Oh nice!


    >
    > << OK, Alex, how many times have you seen it now? It's been 5 for me, and
    I
    > would have gone more if I didn't have to work all the blasted time... >>
    >
    > Today makes 7 for me.
    >
    > And I was gratified to see I was not alone. There were about 30 others
    watch
    > as well. When you consider that there are only about three other movies
    that
    > have had a bigger opening day. And other block busters like Shrek and The
    > Mummy Returns have been at the box office for weeks and weeks, it really
    > hasn't done badly for it's self. There may be a sequel yet! Let's just
    get
    > a better story next time.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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      If it were planet of the horses the "Gulliver's Travels" people would sue. Fox would get a taste of their own medicine.
     
                                                                                  - - - Jeff
     
     
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 5:03 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Horses and evolution.

    In a message dated 9/3/01 10:40:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    CheeseGOTAS@... writes:


    This has been bugging me for awhile -

    There's horses in the Apes films, right?  Well then... how come these
    horses don't 'evolve' at all, eh?  I mean, they're just there - You
    don't really seem to notice them much.  They only serve as
    transportation, nothing great.

    So, yeah, wanna give your theories on why the horses didn't evolve at
    all?  This is really starting to annoy me... well, not really.  I
    just want opinions.  :)

    -Joe.




    Maybe before it was the planet of the apes it was the planet of the horses.  
    But I think there were horses in the new film simply because there were
    horses in the original, and the new movie really is just a pale copy of the
    original with a few changes.

    Oh no, there I go again.  I guess I'll be hearing from Alex now.

    -- Rory


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      As Ari said, "It's disgusting the way we treat humans!".
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 6:16 AM
    Subject: [pota] sMel

    Hmmm....I guess it is his choice to be homophopic (if he is), but it would also be his choice to be homicidal - not a good choice in either scenario.
     
    I never heard any of those statements and I certainly would not agree with them.  People should be free to choose and express their individual preferences - and respect each other for them.
     
    No, there is nothing wrong with being a devout Catholic - but there is something wrong with thinking that being a devout Catholic means you have to say bad things about homosexuals.  I mean Jesus was a radical in his time, and whether he was the son of god or not, he taught that above all things we should treat one another as we expect to be treated.....and that's just plain common sense!
     
    So sorry about Mel.  I hear he was born in New York............let's talk about some Aussies!  Now Russell Crowe......he can act....
     
    Michael
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 3:01
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel

      I don't know if he's homophobic or not - - which is his choice. But there's been some statements along those lines attributed to him. Hurtful statements.  I hear he's a devout Catholic. Not that there's anything wrong with that.                       - - - Jeff
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:50 AM
    Subject: RE: [pota] Mel

    Sorry Jeff - can you clarify?  Are you saying Mel is homo-phobic?
     
    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
    Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 8:11
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel

     Yeah, but Mel thinks there's anything wrong with being gay.
     
                                                                                       - - - Jeff
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:01 PM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel

    In a message dated 9/2/01 4:58:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    whitty@... writes:


    Ummm.....I heard it was New Zeaand but I believe you.


    He does consider himself an Aussie though.....

    Oh never mind!

    Michael



    He was born on January 3, 1956 in Peekskill, New York, but I believe his
    father moved the family to Australia when Mel was between 5 and 10 years old.
     Yeah, he does consider himself Australian -- not that there's anything wrong
    with that!

    -- Rory





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     Wow! Are you giving that to Rory for Christmas? Ooops! I spoiled the surprise.     
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 4:12 PM
    Subject: [pota] Here's my wallclock

    Thanks again Jeff!
    I owe you one!
     
    Best.
    Al


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    Group: pota Message: 10732 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
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     "Jeepers Creepers" was #1 at the box office this weekend with about $15 million.  Good job, Brian! That motherf***** "Rush Hour 2" is still #2 and is about $1 million away from the $200 million mark. POTA may have it's problems, but could that movie be much better?                                            - - - Jeff
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 4:12 PM
    Subject: [pota] Here's my wallclock

    Thanks again Jeff!
    I owe you one!
     
    Best.
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    Group: pota Message: 10733 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
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    Presumably the horses were native to the planet. They weren't tampered
    with genetically, so they're just horses. For that matter there may have
    been apes and humans native to the planet. The new arrival apes perhaps
    interbred with them (Hasslein's nightmare come true) helping along the
    species. The movie asks us to swallow a lot more than that.
                                                                            - -
    - - Jeff

    Also monkeys. Krull did say monkeys were above humans in the evolutionary latter. So there were monkeys. And that jungle did make a lot of aminal noises.
     
     
    Best.
    Al
     
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    Group: pota Message: 10734 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: Pauline Kael (1919 - 2001)
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      The legends keep leaving us. To many, former "New Yorker" critic Pauline Kael (retired: 1991) was the best American movie critic ever and considered her reviews as much self-expression and art as many of the movies she reviewed. She gave a positive review to the original "Apes" at a time when sci-fi was looked down on and perhaps helped it with the "high brow " crowd. For myself, I was honored to be listed just a couple lines below her in the "Bibliography " of Eric Greene's book. She died yesterday at 82.
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 9:04 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] sMel

      As Ari said, "It's disgusting the way we treat humans!".
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 6:16 AM
    Subject: [pota] sMel

    Hmmm....I guess it is his choice to be homophopic (if he is), but it would also be his choice to be homicidal - not a good choice in either scenario.
     
    I never heard any of those statements and I certainly would not agree with them.  People should be free to choose and express their individual preferences - and respect each other for them.
     
    No, there is nothing wrong with being a devout Catholic - but there is something wrong with thinking that being a devout Catholic means you have to say bad things about homosexuals.  I mean Jesus was a radical in his time, and whether he was the son of god or not, he taught that above all things we should treat one another as we expect to be treated.....and that's just plain common sense!
     
    So sorry about Mel.  I hear he was born in New York............let's talk about some Aussies!  Now Russell Crowe......he can act....
     
    Michael
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 3:01
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel

      I don't know if he's homophobic or not - - which is his choice. But there's been some statements along those lines attributed to him. Hurtful statements.  I hear he's a devout Catholic. Not that there's anything wrong with that.                       - - - Jeff
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:50 AM
    Subject: RE: [pota] Mel

    Sorry Jeff - can you clarify?  Are you saying Mel is homo-phobic?
     
    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
    Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 8:11
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel

     Yeah, but Mel thinks there's anything wrong with being gay.
     
                                                                                       - - - Jeff
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:01 PM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel

    In a message dated 9/2/01 4:58:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    whitty@... writes:


    Ummm.....I heard it was New Zeaand but I believe you.


    He does consider himself an Aussie though.....

    Oh never mind!

    Michael



    He was born on January 3, 1956 in Peekskill, New York, but I believe his
    father moved the family to Australia when Mel was between 5 and 10 years old.
     Yeah, he does consider himself Australian -- not that there's anything wrong
    with that!

    -- Rory


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    Group: pota Message: 10735 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: New POTA 2001 Kubrick Figures
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    This site has a pic of the new Kubrick figures for the "reimagining" - Thade,
    Attar, Gorilla Soldier and a horse.

    http://www.toyboxdx.com/set-rumble.html"

    Matt
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    Group: pota Message: 10736 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: Re: Here's my wallclock
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    .htmlIn a message dated 9/4/01 12:27:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    williejoe@... writes:


    Wow! Are you giving that to Rory for Christmas? Ooops! I spoiled the
    surprise.      




    I DON'T WANT IT!!!!    IT'S SO DAMNED UGLY!!!
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    Group: pota Message: 10737 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: Re: Jeepers, Brian!
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    .htmlIn a message dated 9/4/01 12:35:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    williejoe@... writes:


    "Jeepers Creepers" was #1 at the box office this weekend with about $15
    million.  Good job, Brian! That motherf***** "Rush Hour 2" is still #2 and
    is about $1 million away from the $200 million mark. POTA may have it's
    problems, but could that movie be much better?                              
                  - - - Jeff




    No, it's not any better, but it just goes to show you what low standards
    people have for movies these days.  Anything for a laugh or cheap thrill.

    -- Rory
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    Group: pota Message: 10738 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: Re: Pauline Kael (1919 - 2001)
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    .htmlIn a message dated 9/4/01 12:53:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    williejoe@... writes:


     The legends keep leaving us. To many, former "New Yorker" critic Pauline
    Kael (retired: 1991) was the best American movie critic ever and considered
    her reviews as much self-expression and art as many of the movies she
    reviewed. She gave a positive review to the original "Apes" at a time when
    sci-fi was looked down on and perhaps helped it with the "high brow "
    crowd. For myself, I was honored to be listed just a couple lines below her
    in the "Bibliography " of Eric Greene's book. She died yesterday at 82.




    Yeah, they're all going fast.  Soon we won't have any legends left, just
    celebs like..... oh, take your pick.

    -- Rory
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    Group: pota Message: 10739 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: Re: Jeepers, Brian!
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    In a message dated 9/4/01 11:35:28 AM Central Daylight Time,
    williejoe@... writes:

    << POTA may have it's problems, but could that movie be much better? >>

    Movies, like music, are only percieved as being as good, or bad, as most
    people think they are. Art, as a business, is very subjective. Otherwise
    all that crap music wouldn't make a fortune.
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    Group: pota Message: 10740 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: Re: sMel
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    .html Hey Michael,
    Russell Crowe was actually born in New Zealand. Nicole Kidman in Hawaii ( just in case she was your next back up.)
    Best,
    KEN

    Michael Whitty wrote:

    Hmmm....I guess it is his choice to be homophopic (if he is), but it would also be his choice to be homicidal - not a good choice in either scenario.I never heard any of those statements and I certainly would not agree with them.  People should be free to choose and express their individual preferences - and respect each other for them.No, there is nothing wrong with being a devout Catholic - but there is something wrong with thinking that being a devout Catholic means you have to say bad things about homosexuals.  I mean Jesus was a radical in his time, and whether he was the son of god or not, he taught that above all things we should treat one another as we expect to be treated.....and that's just plain common sense!So sorry about Mel.  I hear he was born in New York............let's talk about some Aussies!  Now Russell Crowe......he can act....Michael 
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 3:01
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
     
      I don't know if he's homophobic or not - - which is his choice. But there's been some statements along those lines attributed to him. Hurtful statements.  I hear he's a devout Catholic. Not that there's anything wrong with that.                       - - - Jeff  
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:50 AM
    Subject: RE: [pota] Mel
     Sorry Jeff - can you clarify?  Are you saying Mel is homo-phobic?Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
    Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 8:11
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
     
     Yeah, but Mel thinks there's anything wrong with being gay.                                                                                    - - - Jeff  
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:01 PM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
     In a message dated 9/2/01 4:58:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    whitty@... writes:
     
     
    Ummm.....I heard it was New Zeaand but I believe you.

    He does consider himself an Aussie though.....

    Oh never mind!

    Michael
     

    He was born on January 3, 1956 in Peekskill, New York, but I believe his
    father moved the family to Australia when Mel was between 5 and 10 years old.
     Yeah, he does consider himself Australian -- not that there's anything wrong
    with that!

    -- Rory

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    Group: pota Message: 10741 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/4/2001
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    I could not find them...????

    HELP!!!!

    Michael

    -----Original Message-----
    From: MTotsky@... [MTotsky@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2001 4:22
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] New POTA 2001 Kubrick Figures

    This site has a pic of the new Kubrick figures for the "reimagining" -
    Thade,
    Attar, Gorilla Soldier and a horse.

    http://www.toyboxdx.com/set-rumble.html"

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    Group: pota Message: 10742 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: Re: sMel
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    You're making this up........
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ken & Heather Taylor [kentaylor@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2001 7:16
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] sMel

    Hey Michael,
    Russell Crowe was actually born in New Zealand. Nicole Kidman in Hawaii ( just in case she was your next back up.)
    Best,
    KEN

    Michael Whitty wrote:

    Hmmm....I guess it is his choice to be homophopic (if he is), but it would also be his choice to be homicidal - not a good choice in either scenario.I never heard any of those statements and I certainly would not agree with them.  People should be free to choose and express their individual preferences - and respect each other for them.No, there is nothing wrong with being a devout Catholic - but there is something wrong with thinking that being a devout Catholic means you have to say bad things about homosexuals.  I mean Jesus was a radical in his time, and whether he was the son of god or not, he taught that above all things we should treat one another as we expect to be treated.....and that's just plain common sense!So sorry about Mel.  I hear he was born in New York............let's talk about some Aussies!  Now Russell Crowe......he can act....Michael 

     

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    Group: pota Message: 10743 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: Re: sMel
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    Sam Neil?
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ken & Heather Taylor [kentaylor@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2001 7:16
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] sMel

    Hey Michael,
    Russell Crowe was actually born in New Zealand. Nicole Kidman in Hawaii ( just in case she was your next back up.)
    Best,
    KEN

    Michael Whitty wrote:

    Hmmm....I guess it is his choice to be homophopic (if he is), but it would also be his choice to be homicidal - not a good choice in either scenario.I never heard any of those statements and I certainly would not agree with them.  People should be free to choose and express their individual preferences - and respect each other for them.No, there is nothing wrong with being a devout Catholic - but there is something wrong with thinking that being a devout Catholic means you have to say bad things about homosexuals.  I mean Jesus was a radical in his time, and whether he was the son of god or not, he taught that above all things we should treat one another as we expect to be treated.....and that's just plain common sense!So sorry about Mel.  I hear he was born in New York............let's talk about some Aussies!  Now Russell Crowe......he can act....Michael 
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 3:01
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
      I don't know if he's homophobic or not - - which is his choice. But there's been some statements along those lines attributed to him. Hurtful statements.  I hear he's a devout Catholic. Not that there's anything wrong with that.                       - - - Jeff  
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:50 AM
    Subject: RE: [pota] Mel
     Sorry Jeff - can you clarify?  Are you saying Mel is homo-phobic?Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
    Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 8:11
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
     Yeah, but Mel thinks there's anything wrong with being gay.                                                                                    - - - Jeff  
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:01 PM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
     In a message dated 9/2/01 4:58:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    whitty@... writes:
     
     
    Ummm.....I heard it was New Zeaand but I believe you.

    He does consider himself an Aussie though.....

    Oh never mind!

    Michael

    He was born on January 3, 1956 in Peekskill, New York, but I believe his
    father moved the family to Australia when Mel was between 5 and 10 years old.
     Yeah, he does consider himself Australian -- not that there's anything wrong
    with that!

    -- Rory

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    Group: pota Message: 10744 From: Brian Date: 9/4/2001
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    .html Oh I hate to toot my own horn, but:

    "Jeeperes Creepers"

    • $15.8 Mil at the box office for the weekend.
    • Largest Labor day film opening EVER!!!
    • And we pushed PLANET OF THE APES out of the top ten!!!!
    Oh, the irony.  Hate me if you will.

    Brian

    PS:  Of course next week we'll get pushed out of the top ten by "Revenge or the Rugrats' or something as admirable.
     
     

    Jack Krueger wrote:

    Told you! "Jay and Silent Bob" are inspiring people to see it
           - - - - Jeff

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    To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 3:06 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Oh nice!

    >
    > << OK, Alex, how many times have you seen it now?  It's been 5 for me, and
    I
    > would have gone more if I didn't have to work all the blasted time... >>
    >
    > Today makes 7 for me.
    >
    > And I was gratified to see I was not alone.  There were about 30 others
    watch
    > as well.  When you consider that there are only about three other movies
    that
    > have had a bigger opening day.  And other block busters like Shrek and The
    > Mummy Returns have been at the box office for weeks and weeks, it really
    > hasn't done badly for it's self.  There may be a sequel yet!  Let's just
    get
    > a better story next time.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 10745 From: Brian Date: 9/4/2001
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    .html Thanks Michael.

    We are hoping it will raise some decent money for the fund in both John Chambers and Roddy's names.

    Brian

    Subject:
               [pota] CAESAR
         Date:
               Tue, 4 Sep 2001 23:19:22 +1000
         From:
               "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
     Reply-To:
               pota@yahoogroups.com
           To:
               <pota@yahoogroups.com>
     
     
     

    Man, that's pretty!
     
    Michael
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Brian [mailto:apeman@...]
    Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 5:31
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] Crying Lawgiver's & CAESARs

    You are all making me cry with this silly discussion.  Sheesh!

    Check out the CAESAR fund raiser and you can make it cry whatever you want!
    <http://apemania.com/CaesarFund.htm>

    B
     

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    Group: pota Message: 10746 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
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      According to movieheadlines.com, Tim Roth says he'd be glad to return as Thade if Burton comes back. He added there's a chance Burton would return despite his recent comments. Mr. Roth suspects our savior was just exhausted and tired of talking to the press.
     
     Yeah, but does he get the point? We want a good script this time!                      
     
                                                                               - - - Jeff
     
     
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    Thanks again Jeff!
    I owe you one!
     
    Best.
    Al


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    Group: pota Message: 10747 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
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     Movieheadlines.com reports they are already planning a sequel to "Jeepers Creepers". If this keeps up we'd better save up for "Apemania"'s going out of business sale.
     
                                                                                   - - - - Jeff
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 4:12 PM
    Subject: [pota] Here's my wallclock

    Thanks again Jeff!
    I owe you one!
     
    Best.
    Al


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    Group: pota Message: 10748 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/4/2001
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    In a message dated 9/4/01 4:41:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
    kentaylor@... writes:

    << Russell Crowe was actually born in New Zealand. Nicole Kidman in Hawaii
    ( just in case she was your next back up.) >>


    There's always Paul Hogan.
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    Group: pota Message: 10749 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/4/2001
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    << Sam Neil? >>

    Is it just me, or does anyone else thank Sam would make a great James Bond?
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    << * And we pushed PLANET OF THE APES out of the top ten!!!!

    Oh, the irony. Hate me if you will. >>

    Nah Brian, it had to happen sooner or later. Better a film you worked on
    than something like Rugrats. Rush Hour 2 seems unshakable in the # 2 slot.
    Maybe you can knock it down to 3rd. And Apes pulled a respectable # 9 in the
    dailies for Labor Day with over $900.000. And after a little more than a
    month is already in the top 100 of all time. Considering the bad word of
    mouth and mixed reviews, I remain optimistic for a sequel.
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    In a message dated 09/04/2001 6:15:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    apeman@... writes:

    << Oh I hate to toot my own horn, but:

    "Jeeperes Creepers"

    * $15.8 Mil at the box office for the weekend.
    * Largest Labor day film opening EVER!!!
    * And we pushed PLANET OF THE APES out of the top ten!!!!

    Oh, the irony. Hate me if you will.

    Brian >>

    Brain, you know very well what you pushed out of the top ten is a walking
    pestilence!

    -- Rory
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    In a message dated 09/04/2001 6:28:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    williejoe@... writes:

    << According to movieheadlines.com, Tim Roth says he'd be glad to return as
    Thade if Burton comes back. He added there's a chance Burton would return
    despite his recent comments. Mr. Roth suspects our savior was just exhausted
    and tired of talking to the press.

    Yeah, but does he get the point? We want a good script this time!


    -
    - - Jeff >>

    Jeff, it's not about good scripts, it's about getting all the
    fifteen-year-olds -- and Alex -- to give up their money.

    -- Rory
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    In a message dated 09/04/2001 7:35:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    LordTZer0@... writes:

    << << Sam Neil? >>

    Is it just me, or does anyone else thank Sam would make a great James Bond?
    >>

    Too old now.
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    In a message dated 09/04/2001 6:39:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    LordTZer0@... writes:

    << There's always Paul Hogan. >>

    That sell-out?!!!!!

    -- Rory
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    In a message dated 9/4/01 7:35:32 PM, LordTZer0@... writes:

    << Is it just me, or does anyone else thank Sam would make a great James
    Bond? >>

    Nah, I don't think Sam would be a good 007, but I nominate another Aussie:
    Hugh Jackman.

    Matt
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    Group: pota Message: 10756 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
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    According to movieheadlines.com, Tim Roth says he'd be glad to return as Thade if Burton comes back. He added there's a chance Burton would return despite his recent comments. Mr. Roth suspects our savior was just exhausted and tired of talking to the press.
     
    YEEEEE HAAAAA!!!!
    Bring on the sequel so that all of us 15 year olds can enjoy apes once again!
    YEEEE HAAAAA!!!!!
     
    Congrats on the Biggest Boxoffice hit for Labor Day Brian. But please just don't release the sequel in 2003...
    YEEEE HAAAAA!!!!
     
    Best.
    Al
     
     
     
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    Wow now this is heavy!
    Planet of the apes is at number 9! and has made up to 173 million!!! in the U.S.??
    Man, that 180 is looking better and better as we speak!!
     
    YEEEEE HAAAAA!!!!
     
    Best.
    Al :o)
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    To: pota@yahoogroups.com

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    >This site has a pic of the new Kubrick figures for the "reimagining" - Thade,
    >Attar, Gorilla Soldier and a horse.
    >
    >http://www.toyboxdx.com/set-rumble.html"
    >
    >Matt
    >
    >

    Will North Americans get to pay import prices for the Kubricks again?

    -Tom


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    .htmlIn a message dated 9/4/01 11:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    prophecysite@... writes:


    Wow now this is heavy!

    Planet of the apes is at number 9! and has made up to 173 million!!! in the
    U.S.??

    Man, that 180 is looking better and better as we speak!!

    http://www.showbizdata.com/contacts/dailybox.htm


    One of the reasons for this is because it's like the only film Fox has out
    right now.  Notice that it's still on over 1,500 screens.  It was on over
    3000 screens for three weeks!   It's basically being pushed to 180 million.

    -- Rory
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    Group: pota Message: 10760 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
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    Being fair with Rory:
    While Planet of the Apes 2001 has made more money than POTA Original comparing past to present prices. Planet of the Apes Original did make 3 TIMES what the film cost worldwide. So the Original Planet of the Apes is the more successful of the two.
     
    Okay Rory, you can start having your field day now.
     
    BUT, If Planet of the Apes 2001 makes up to 400 million worldwide itself, both films will be head to head making them both 3 time profit makers.
    How interesting!
     
    Cool.
    Al
     
     
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      $2 million away from "Jurassic Park". It can still make #5 for the summer. Come on, baby!                   
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 8:53 PM
    Subject: [pota] WOW!

    Wow now this is heavy!
    Planet of the apes is at number 9! and has made up to 173 million!!! in the U.S.??
    Man, that 180 is looking better and better as we speak!!
     
    YEEEEE HAAAAA!!!!
     
    Best.
    Al :o)


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    One of the reasons for this is because it's like the only film Fox has out
    right now.  Notice that it's still on over 1,500 screens.  It was on over
    3000 screens for three weeks!   It's basically being pushed to 180 million.

    -- Rory
     
     
    Hey, whatever works right?
    You act as though someone is cheating or something. :o)
     
    Best.
    Al
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    Group: pota Message: 10763 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
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     Yeah, but in 10 years who will be making more in video rentals (especially under Roger Ebert's account)?
     
     
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    Subject: [pota] Being fair with Rory

    Being fair with Rory:
    While Planet of the Apes 2001 has made more money than POTA Original comparing past to present prices. Planet of the Apes Original did make 3 TIMES what the film cost worldwide. So the Original Planet of the Apes is the more successful of the two.
     
    Okay Rory, you can start having your field day now.
     
    BUT, If Planet of the Apes 2001 makes up to 400 million worldwide itself, both films will be head to head making them both 3 time profit makers.
    How interesting!
     
    Cool.
    Al
     
     


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    Yeah, but in 10 years who will be making more in video rentals (especially under Roger Ebert's account)?
     
     
    An very Interesting point.
     
    Best.
    Al 
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    Group: pota Message: 10765 From: Melkor Date: 9/4/2001
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    >According to movieheadlines.com, Tim Roth says he'd be glad to return as =
    >Thade if Burton comes back. He added there's a chance Burton would return d=
    >espite his recent comments. Mr. Roth suspects our savior was just exhausted=
    > and tired of talking to the press.=20
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    > Yeah, but does he get the point? We want a good script this time! =
    > =
    >- - - Jeff

    If we get a good script, it's more likely to be an accident than
    something Burton insists upon. I don't think we have to have
    Burton nor any of the POTA 2001 actors back. What will make or
    break the franchise is the script.

    -Tom


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    Group: pota Message: 10766 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
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    .htmlThe latest issue of Film Score Monthly has Danny Elfman and APES on the
    cover.  Inside is an article about Elfman's attitudes toward APES both old
    and new, and what he had to go through scoring the picture.  One interesting
    fact:  "Veteran percussionist Emil Richards is one of the few musicians to
    have performed on both the original 'Planet of the Apes' score (he played the
    famous mixing bowls in two key cues early in the film) and the new version."

    Also I just got the reborn Cinescape magazine.  Nothing much in it, but it
    does have a really good essay "Summer of Our Discontent: A season of
    unmemorable flicks had genre buffs wondering, 'What happened?'"    Of course
    APES is talked about -- and Alex won't like it!

    And, no, Jeff, I still haven't seen the Starlog with the Natalie Trundy
    interview, but I will, I will.

    -- Rory   
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    Group: pota Message: 10767 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
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    If we get a good script, it's more likely to be an accident than
    something Burton insists upon.   I don't think we have to have
    Burton nor any of the POTA 2001 actors back.  What will make or
    break the franchise is the script.
     
     
    Rubish!
    SIR TIM BURTON would have everything to do with it.
     
    Best.
    Al
     
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    .htmlIn a message dated 9/5/01 12:04:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
    prophecysite@... writes:


    Being fair with Rory:

    While Planet of the Apes 2001 has made more money than POTA Original
    comparing past to present prices. Planet of the Apes Original did make 3
    TIMES what the film cost worldwide. So the Original Planet of the Apes is
    the more successful of the two.


    Okay Rory, you can start having your field day now.

    BUT, If Planet of the Apes 2001 makes up to 400 million worldwide itself,
    both films will be head to head making them both 3 time profit makers.

    How interesting!

    Cool.
    Al



    Alex, I know you don't understand this, but ALL I really care about is how
    good is the film from a critical standpoint.  Now I know that if something
    you love is dismissed by the critics you're attitude is just "What do they
    know."   But, I think they know something, and I go along with it.  There are
    many films I look forward to right up to opening day, but if I see most of
    the reviews are bad -- I skip it -- like "Jeepers Creepers."  It got some
    really bad ones.   But that's okay -- I'll rent damn near anything on DVD!

    -- Rory
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    Group: pota Message: 10769 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 9/4/2001
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    .html NZ also. Sorry.

    Michael Whitty wrote:

     Sam Neil?
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ken & Heather Taylor [mailto:kentaylor@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2001 7:16
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] sMel
     
    Hey Michael,
    Russell Crowe was actually born in New Zealand. Nicole Kidman in Hawaii ( just in case she was your next back up.)
    Best,
    KEN

    Michael Whitty wrote:

    Hmmm....I guess it is his choice to be homophopic (if he is), but it would also be his choice to be homicidal - not a good choice in either scenario.I never heard any of those statements and I certainly would not agree with them.  People should be free to choose and express their individual preferences - and respect each other for them.No, there is nothing wrong with being a devout Catholic - but there is something wrong with thinking that being a devout Catholic means you have to say bad things about homosexuals.  I mean Jesus was a radical in his time, and whether he was the son of god or not, he taught that above all things we should treat one another as we expect to be treated.....and that's just plain common sense!So sorry about Mel.  I hear he was born in New York............let's talk about some Aussies!  Now Russell Crowe......he can act....Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 3:01
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
      I don't know if he's homophobic or not - - which is his choice. But there's been some statements along those lines attributed to him. Hurtful statements.  I hear he's a devout Catholic. Not that there's anything wrong with that.                       - - - Jeff
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:50 AM
    Subject: RE: [pota] Mel
    Sorry Jeff - can you clarify?  Are you saying Mel is homo-phobic?Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
    Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 8:11
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
     Yeah, but Mel thinks there's anything wrong with being gay.                                                                                    - - - Jeff
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    Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:01 PM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
     In a message dated 9/2/01 4:58:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    whitty@... writes:
     
     
    Ummm.....I heard it was New Zeaand but I believe you.

    He does consider himself an Aussie though.....

    Oh never mind!

    Michael

    He was born on January 3, 1956 in Peekskill, New York, but I believe his
    father moved the family to Australia when Mel was between 5 and 10 years old.
     Yeah, he does consider himself Australian -- not that there's anything wrong
    with that!

    -- Rory

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    Group: pota Message: 10770 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/4/2001
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    Also I just got the reborn Cinescape magazine.  Nothing much in it, but it
    does have a really good essay "Summer of Our Discontent: A season of
    unmemorable flicks had genre buffs wondering, 'What happened?'"    Of course
    APES is talked about -- and Alex won't like it!

    RUBISH! RUBISH!
    I WILL NOT HEAR OF SUCH THINGS!!
    lalalalalala...I can't hear you....lalalalalala...I can't hear you....
     
    The magazine is in news stands now Rory. Got my copy of the dynamic dual.
    Very cool Jef!!
     
    Best.
    Al
     
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    Group: pota Message: 10771 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
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    .htmlIn a message dated 9/5/01 12:09:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
    williejoe@... writes:


    Yeah, but in 10 years who will be making more in video rentals (especially
    under Roger Ebert's account)?




    OH!!!  That reminds me.  I was in the other of two Blockbusters near me this
    weekend.  Now this Blockbuster has never had the original APES in stock
    before, but I saw that now they have two VHS copies of the 30th Anniversary
    edition (with the cover I love!!) and one DVD.   All three were checked
    out!!!!    Three cheers for the new film -- at least it's getting people
    interested in seeing the original again!    Strangely this Blockbuster had
    three copies of the "Behind" special edition DVD and none of them were
    checked out.  Somebody there must have thought they were buying a movie
    getting three copies like that.

    -- Rory
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    Group: pota Message: 10772 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
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      I've heard Elfman has only seen the original once and isn't a fan. He did alright by the score.
     
     If you don't have "Starlog" yet you should look around. The issue's almost over with.
     
    What did Mark Altman think of "Apes"?
     
     This week the "Apes" DVD was #4 at my local Tower (down a notch) and the VHS was #5.                          
     
                                                                                - - - - Jeff
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 9:13 PM
    Subject: [pota] Film Score Monthly and Cinescape

    The latest issue of Film Score Monthly has Danny Elfman and APES on the
    cover.  Inside is an article about Elfman's attitudes toward APES both old
    and new, and what he had to go through scoring the picture.  One interesting
    fact:  "Veteran percussionist Emil Richards is one of the few musicians to
    have performed on both the original 'Planet of the Apes' score (he played the
    famous mixing bowls in two key cues early in the film) and the new version."

    Also I just got the reborn Cinescape magazine.  Nothing much in it, but it
    does have a really good essay "Summer of Our Discontent: A season of
    unmemorable flicks had genre buffs wondering, 'What happened?'"    Of course
    APES is talked about -- and Alex won't like it!

    And, no, Jeff, I still haven't seen the Starlog with the Natalie Trundy
    interview, but I will, I will.

    -- Rory   


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    Group: pota Message: 10773 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
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    .htmlIn a message dated 9/5/01 12:18:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
    prophecysite@... writes:


    If we get a good script, it's more likely to be an accident than
    something Burton insists upon.   I don't think we have to have
    Burton nor any of the POTA 2001 actors back.  What will make or
    break the franchise is the script.



    Rubish!
    SIR TIM BURTON would have everything to do with it.

    Best.
    Al



    Oh, Alex, please!!!   You're so blinded by your love of the new movie!  Get
    over it!  Wait until you wake up in the morning and find out what you've been
    sleeping with!   BOW!!  WOW!!!  WOW!!!   THIS MOVIE'S A DOG!!!!

    -- Rory
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    Group: pota Message: 10774 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
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      See Rory! Rick Baker, Alex...they know what's going on. "Starlog"!
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 9:28 PM
    Subject: [pota] Re: Film Score Monthly and Cinescape

    Also I just got the reborn Cinescape magazine.  Nothing much in it, but it
    does have a really good essay "Summer of Our Discontent: A season of
    unmemorable flicks had genre buffs wondering, 'What happened?'"    Of course
    APES is talked about -- and Alex won't like it!

    RUBISH! RUBISH!
    I WILL NOT HEAR OF SUCH THINGS!!
    lalalalalala...I can't hear you....lalalalalala...I can't hear you....
     
    The magazine is in news stands now Rory. Got my copy of the dynamic dual.
    Very cool Jef!!
     
    Best.
    Al
     


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    Group: pota Message: 10775 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/4/2001
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    Oh!!! That reminds me! The new "Entertainment Weekly " has a thing about what to do with your (American) tax rebate. If you're a single income resident, they recommend a DVD player and a box set of either "The Godfather" or "POTA:Evolution". Let's see them say Burton's flick and "The Godfather "  in the same breath.
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 9:24 PM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Being fair with Rory

    In a message dated 9/5/01 12:09:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
    williejoe@... writes:


    Yeah, but in 10 years who will be making more in video rentals (especially
    under Roger Ebert's account)?




    OH!!!  That reminds me.  I was in the other of two Blockbusters near me this
    weekend.  Now this Blockbuster has never had the original APES in stock
    before, but I saw that now they have two VHS copies of the 30th Anniversary
    edition (with the cover I love!!) and one DVD.   All three were checked
    out!!!!    Three cheers for the new film -- at least it's getting people
    interested in seeing the original again!    Strangely this Blockbuster had
    three copies of the "Behind" special edition DVD and none of them were
    checked out.  Somebody there must have thought they were buying a movie
    getting three copies like that.

    -- Rory


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    Oh, Alex, please!!!   You're so blinded by your love of the new movie!  Get
    over it!  Wait until you wake up in the morning and find out what you've been
    sleeping with!   BOW!!  WOW!!!  WOW!!!   THIS MOVIE'S A DOG!!!!

    -- Rory
     
     
    That hurt Rory...really....sniff sniff. :o(
     
    shhhhhh....but apes will rule again in 2003.......hehehehehe... :o)
     
    Best.
    Al
     
     
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    In a message dated 9/5/01 12:25:34 AM, Haristas@... writes:

    << Strangely this Blockbuster had
    three copies of the "Behind" special edition DVD and none of them were
    checked out. Somebody there must have thought they were buying a movie
    getting three copies like that. >>

    Yeah, my Blockbuster has 3 copies of "Behind" as well (they don't seem too
    popular). They don't have the original film on DVD though.

    Matt
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    Group: pota Message: 10778 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
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    .htmlIn a message dated 9/5/01 12:27:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
    williejoe@... writes:


     I've heard Elfman has only seen the original once and isn't a fan. He did
    alright by the score.


    If you don't have "Starlog" yet you should look around. The issue's almost
    over with.


    What did Mark Altman think of "Apes"?

    This week the "Apes" DVD was #4 at my local Tower (down a notch) and the
    VHS was #5.                           


                                                                               
    - - - - Jeff




    This is what Elfman says in FSM. . . .  "Although Elfman has admitted to
    being a fan of genre movies, he's the first to admit that he never became
    pert of the cult that grew up around 'Planet of the Apes' and its four
    sequels.  'This is a movie that I saw as a kid and I liked it, but I didn't
    think anything more about it, I wasn't crazy about it.  It wasn't like 'The
    Exorcist' and '2001' where I saw those movies probably six or seven times
    when they came out.  'Apes' I saw and it was fun, but I really didn't want to
    revisit it.  I never saw it again until I was on my way to New York to spot
    the movie with Tim, and I popped a DVD in and watched it.  I really enjoyed
    it, and definitely one of the more intriguing and interesting parts of the
    movie was Jerry Goldsmith's score."

    And he has more to say, but you can read it yourself later.  Mark Altman did
    not comment.  He's more worried about "Enterprise" right now.  I guess APES
    is pretty much history, except it's still making money and will continue to.

    -- Rory
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    Subject: Re: Being fair with Rory
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    .htmlIn a message dated 9/5/01 12:33:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
    williejoe@... writes:


    Oh!!! That reminds me! The new "Entertainment Weekly " has a thing about
    what to do with your (American) tax rebate. If you're a single income
    resident, they recommend a DVD player and a box set of either "The
    Godfather" or "POTA:Evolution". Let's see them say Burton's flick and "The
    Godfather "  in the same breath.




    They really say "The Godfather" or "POTA: Evolution"?!!!   WOW!  That's great!

    -- Rory
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    Group: pota Message: 10780 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/4/2001
    Subject: Re: Being fair with Rory
    .html
    .htmlIn a message dated 9/5/01 12:39:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
    writes:


    Yeah, my Blockbuster has 3 copies of "Behind" as well (they don't seem too
    popular). They don't have the original film on DVD though.

    Matt



    Why don't you tell them you wish they did because you REALLY, REALLY want to
    rent it?!

    -- Rory
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    Group: pota Message: 10781 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: Re: sMel
    .html
    Yes, remember when you Americans loved him in the late 80's. Where was that
    support for Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles..you fickle bunch! ;o)
    Look, I've finally succumbed to using seldom used keys to create cute email
    icons so you know when I'm kidding.
    I don't hear anyone LOL-ing....
    Best,
    KEN

    LordTZer0@... wrote:

    > In a message dated 9/4/01 4:41:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
    > kentaylor@... writes:
    >
    > << Russell Crowe was actually born in New Zealand. Nicole Kidman in Hawaii
    > ( just in case she was your next back up.) >>
    >
    > There's always Paul Hogan.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 10782 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: Re: Film Score Monthly and Cinescape
    .html
    I did buy the soundtrack.
    Oh, and a hat.
    And some Band-Aids and the book but that's it!
    Okay I have a poster and a banner coming but.
    That book. I don't know where that author dredges up the shite he spouts
    about things that had nothing to do with the story, while other areas of the
    plot are left out completely! I guess they don't call him Billy T. Quick for
    nothing!
    <.html
    Group: pota Message: 10783 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: sMel
    .html
    How ironic.

    Paul Hogan used to be really good you know.

    Now I think we're hoping he was born in Canada or something.........

    Michael

    -----Original Message-----
    From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2001 8:06
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] sMel

    In a message dated 9/4/01 4:41:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
    kentaylor@... writes:

    << Russell Crowe was actually born in New Zealand. Nicole Kidman in Hawaii
    ( just in case she was your next back up.) >>


    There's always Paul Hogan.




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    Group: pota Message: 10784 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: Re: sMel
    .html
    It's just you....

    Michael

    -----Original Message-----
    From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2001 9:21
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] sMel


    << Sam Neil? >>

    Is it just me, or does anyone else thank Sam would make a great James Bond?




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    Group: pota Message: 10785 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: Sam
    .html
    He was a very good Damien Thorne.

    Michael

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2001 10:18
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] sMel

    In a message dated 09/04/2001 7:35:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    LordTZer0@... writes:

    << << Sam Neil? >>

    Is it just me, or does anyone else thank Sam would make a great James Bond?
    >>

    Too old now.




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    Group: pota Message: 10786 From: J. Crawford Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: rather watch [was Re: [pota] Digest Number 661]
    .html
    Hi!

    I've been on holiday, so I've been keeping up via digest format.
    Please excuse my tardiness in this matter.

    I think that Burton's film is actually a 'better' version or 're-telling' of
    BATTLE than maybe of the original film. It's not hard to re-imagine, say
    maybe Brent's search for Taylor along similar lines. No way am I watching
    the new film before CONQUEST though, IMO best of the original 'sequels'.

    Hey, by the way, who do we write to get that 'directors cut' of CONQUEST on
    DVD?

    Best Wishes!
    J.

    > Message: 11
    > Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 18:58:20 EDT
    > From: LordTZer0@...
    > Subject: Re: Re: Testing
    >
    > In a message dated 9/1/01 8:36:37 AM Central Daylight Time,
    > dballard@... writes:
    >
    > << Personally I'd rather watch this than "Battle" or "Conquest" >>
    >
    > Thank you! I now feel vindicated...
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    Group: pota Message: 10787 From: J. Crawford Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: spinning Boulle (was Re: [pota] Digest Number 664)
    .html
    Hi!

    > The meaning of the end of the film? That the filmmakers hadn't a clue
    what
    > they were doing. Pathetic. I can still hear Boulle spinning in his
    grave.
    >
    > -- Rory

    I was wondering what that low hum I've been hearing is!

    :)

    Best Wishes!
    J.
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    Group: pota Message: 10788 From: J. Crawford Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: Some Asian Box Office #'s
    .html
    Hi!

    I thought this may be of interest.

    Left to right:
    Current Position[Last Weeks' Position] Title Opening Date

    >HONG KONG 9-15 August 2001
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    01 [--] Jurassic Park III 9 Aug 01 US
    02 [--] The Legend of Zu 9 Aug 01 HK
    03 [01] Fulltime Killer 2 Aug 01 HK
    04 [--] Doraemon 9 Aug 01 JP
    05 [02] Kiss of the Dragon 2 Aug 01 US
    06 [03] Shaolin Soccer 5 Jul 01 HK
    07 [04] Planet of the Apes 26 Jul 01 US
    08 [05] Para Para Sakura 26 Jul 01 HK
    09 [07] Shrek 5 Jul 01 US
    10 [06] Lara Croft: Tomb Raider 19 Jul 01 US

    >TAIPEI [TAIWAN] 10-12 August 2001
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    01 [--] Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within 10 Aug 01 JP
    02 [02] Planet of the Apes 3 Aug 01 US
    03 [01] Jurassic Park III 27 Jul 01 US
    04 [--] Scary Movie 2 10 Aug 01 US
    05 [03] Kiss of the Dragon 3 Aug 01 US
    06 [04] Lara Croft: Tomb Raider 13 Jul 01 US
    07 [05] Atlantis: The Lost Empire 20 Jul 01 US
    08 [--] See Spot Run 11 Aug 01 US
    09 [07] Shrek 29 Jun 01 US
    10 [06] Cats & Dogs 6 Jul 01 US


    >TOKYO [JAPAN] 11-12 August 2001
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    01 [01] Spirited Away 21 Jul 01 JP
    02 [02] Jurassic Park III 4 Aug 01 US
    03 [03] Planet of the Apes 28 Jul 01 US
    04 [04] AI Artificial Intelligence 30 Jun 01 US
    05 [05] Pearl Harbour 14 Jul 01 US
    06 [--] Red Shadow 11 Aug 01 JP
    07 [06] Pokemon 4: Celebi - A Timelss Encounter 7 Jul 01 JP
    08 [07] Ultraman Cosmos: The First Contact 21 Jul 01 JP
    09 [--] Exit Wounds 11 Aug 01 US
    10 [09] Dr Dolittle 2 21 Jul 01 US

    Best Wishes!
    J.
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    Group: pota Message: 10789 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: Re: New POTA 2001 Kubrick Figures?
    .html
    In a message dated 9/4/01 6:01:46 PM, whitty@... writes:

    << I could not find them...????

    HELP!!!! >>

    Just go to:

    http://www.toyboxdx.com/set-rumble.html"

    and scroll down a bit. It's the news item from 9-1-01 entitled "Once Again".
    Look for the Medicom logo.

    Matt
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    Group: pota Message: 10790 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: Re: rather watch [was Re: [pota] Digest Number 661]
    .html
    The encouraging thing is that the 87 -year-old director seems to have an
    interest in DVD. He did the commentary for "The Guns of Navarone" and a
    special edition of his "Cape Fear" comes out this month. Reportedly he wants
    to do a director's cut of "Conquest". I think they should do a 2-disc set of
    his cuts of "Conquest" and "Battle". But that probably depends on how well
    the current "Apes" DVDs
    - - - Jeff


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "J. Crawford" <jcraw1@...>
    To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 6:45 AM
    Subject: rather watch [was Re: [pota] Digest Number 661]


    > Hi!
    >
    > I've been on holiday, so I've been keeping up via digest format.
    > Please excuse my tardiness in this matter.
    >
    > I think that Burton's film is actually a 'better' version or 're-telling'
    of
    > BATTLE than maybe of the original film. It's not hard to re-imagine, say
    > maybe Brent's search for Taylor along similar lines. No way am I watching
    > the new film before CONQUEST though, IMO best of the original 'sequels'.
    >
    > Hey, by the way, who do we write to get that 'directors cut' of CONQUEST
    on
    > DVD?
    >
    > Best Wishes!
    > J.
    >
    > > Message: 11
    > > Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 18:58:20 EDT
    > > From: LordTZer0@...
    > > Subject: Re: Re: Testing
    > >
    > > In a message dated 9/1/01 8:36:37 AM Central Daylight Time,
    > > dballard@... writes:
    > >
    > > << Personally I'd rather watch this than "Battle" or "Conquest" >>
    > >
    > > Thank you! I now feel vindicated...
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 10791 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: Jeff Kruegar's emails
    .html
    In a message dated 9/5/01 12:50:33 PM, williejoe@... writes:

    << The encouraging thing is that the 87 -year-old director seems to have an
    interest in DVD. He did the commentary for "The Guns of Navarone" and a
    special edition of his "Cape Fear" comes out this month. Reportedly he wants
    to do a director's cut of "Conquest". I think they should do a 2-disc set of
    his cuts of "Conquest" and "Battle". But that probably depends on how well
    the current "Apes" DVDs >>

    Jeff,

    Is it me or do all of your emails seem to end in mid sentance? The one above
    is just an example of something I notice all of the time.

    Just curious,

    Matt
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    Group: pota Message: 10792 From: CheeseGOTAS@aol.com Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: Re: Jeff Kruegar's emails
    .html
    Yeah, I've noticed that they just

    ..

    ...


    ...Heh, I'm joking. I've also noticed that they seem to just stop in mid
    sentence. Very weird indeed.

    -Joe
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    Group: pota Message: 10793 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: Re: Jeff Kruegar's emails
    .html
    Yes, sometimes the last word of my e-mails cuts off. Maybe I should do the
    last word twice. But that would probably confuse people too. too too too

    - - -
    Jeff


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: <MTotsky@...>
    To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:52 AM
    Subject: [pota] Jeff Kruegar's emails


    >
    > In a message dated 9/5/01 12:50:33 PM, williejoe@... writes:
    >
    > << The encouraging thing is that the 87 -year-old director seems to have
    an
    > interest in DVD. He did the commentary for "The Guns of Navarone" and a
    > special edition of his "Cape Fear" comes out this month. Reportedly he
    wants
    > to do a director's cut of "Conquest". I think they should do a 2-disc set
    of
    > his cuts of "Conquest" and "Battle". But that probably depends on how well
    > the current "Apes" DVDs >>
    >
    > Jeff,
    >
    > Is it me or do all of your emails seem to end in mid sentance? The one
    above
    > is just an example of something I notice all of the time.
    >
    > Just curious,
    >
    > Matt
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 10794 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: Yeah!
    .html
    My bro Dave Ballard sent me the British SFX "Apes" Special. This is a must
    have. It's all "Apes", all the time. Plus a special sleeve, 2 lobby cards
    and "stat cards" for Cornelius and Thade. Book a ticket for the U.K. and go
    there NOW.

    - - -
    Dave's pal,

    Jeff



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: <MTotsky@...>
    To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:52 AM
    Subject: [pota] Jeff Kruegar's emails


    >
    > In a message dated 9/5/01 12:50:33 PM, williejoe@... writes:
    >
    > << The encouraging thing is that the 87 -year-old director seems to have
    an
    > interest in DVD. He did the commentary for "The Guns of Navarone" and a
    > special edition of his "Cape Fear" comes out this month. Reportedly he
    wants
    > to do a director's cut of "Conquest". I think they should do a 2-disc set
    of
    > his cuts of "Conquest" and "Battle". But that probably depends on how well
    > the current "Apes" DVDs >>
    >
    > Jeff,
    >
    > Is it me or do all of your emails seem to end in mid sentance? The one
    above
    > is just an example of something I notice all of the time.
    >
    > Just curious,
    >
    > Matt
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 10795 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: Re: sMel
    .html
    .html
    Hey Ken where were you born?
     
    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ken & Heather Taylor [kentaylor@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2001 14:26
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] sMel

    NZ also. Sorry.

    Michael Whitty wrote:

     Sam Neil?
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ken & Heather Taylor [mailto:kentaylor@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2001 7:16
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] sMel
    Hey Michael,
    Russell Crowe was actually born in New Zealand. Nicole Kidman in Hawaii ( just in case she was your next back up.)
    Best,
    KEN

    Michael Whitty wrote:

    Hmmm....I guess it is his choice to be homophopic (if he is), but it would also be his choice to be homicidal - not a good choice in either scenario.I never heard any of those statements and I certainly would not agree with them.  People should be free to choose and express their individual preferences - and respect each other for them.No, there is nothing wrong with being a devout Catholic - but there is something wrong with thinking that being a devout Catholic means you have to say bad things about homosexuals.  I mean Jesus was a radical in his time, and whether he was the son of god or not, he taught that above all things we should treat one another as we expect to be treated.....and that's just plain common sense!So sorry about Mel.  I hear he was born in New York............let's talk about some Aussies!  Now Russell Crowe......he can act....Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 3:01
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
      I don't know if he's homophobic or not - - which is his choice. But there's been some statements along those lines attributed to him. Hurtful statements.  I hear he's a devout Catholic. Not that there's anything wrong with that.                       - - - Jeff
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:50 AM
    Subject: RE: [pota] Mel
    Sorry Jeff - can you clarify?  Are you saying Mel is homo-phobic?Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
    Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 8:11
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
     Yeah, but Mel thinks there's anything wrong with being gay.                                                                                    - - - Jeff
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:01 PM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
     In a message dated 9/2/01 4:58:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    whitty@... writes:
     
     
    Ummm.....I heard it was New Zeaand but I believe you.

    He does consider himself an Aussie though.....

    Oh never mind!

    Michael

    He was born on January 3, 1956 in Peekskill, New York, but I believe his
    father moved the family to Australia when Mel was between 5 and 10 years old.
     Yeah, he does consider himself Australian -- not that there's anything wrong
    with that!

    -- Rory

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    Group: pota Message: 10796 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: Re: sMel
    .html
    hehehehehehehehehehehhehe

    Michael

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ken & Heather Taylor [kentaylor@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2001 14:37
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] sMel

    Yes, remember when you Americans loved him in the late 80's. Where was that
    support for Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles..you fickle bunch! ;o)
    Look, I've finally succumbed to using seldom used keys to create cute email
    icons so you know when I'm kidding.
    I don't hear anyone LOL-ing....
    Best,
    KEN

    LordTZer0@... wrote:

    > In a message dated 9/4/01 4:41:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
    > kentaylor@... writes:
    >
    > << Russell Crowe was actually born in New Zealand. Nicole Kidman in Hawaii
    > ( just in case she was your next back up.) >>
    >
    > There's always Paul Hogan.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >





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    Group: pota Message: 10797 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: New POTA 2001 Kubrick Figures?
    .html
    Thanks - that's better!

    They look quite good.

    Michael


    Just go to:

    http://www.toyboxdx.com/set-rumble.html"

    and scroll down a bit. It's the news item from 9-1-01 entitled "Once Again".
    Look for the Medicom logo.
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    Group: pota Message: 10798 From: Jack Krueger Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: The skinny
    .html
    "Variety" and "The Hollywood Reporter" have their reports for the summer.
    Fox was the #3 studio, thanks to those reJacobsed flicks POTA and Dr.
    Dolittle. Fox got 12.8% of the market. #1 was Universal with 17.4% ("Mummy
    Returns", "Jurassic Park", "American Pie 2" and "The Fast and the
    Furious" - - - quite a lineup). #2 was Disney (13.4%) thanks to "Pearl
    Harbor" and "The Princess Diaries".

    Fox seems pleased with "Apes", especially the opening, which was the
    biggest in Fox history. Fox chairman Jim Gianopulos said, "It was a
    tremendous feat for both Tim Burton and Dick Zanuck". Jim went on to thank
    Alex for seeing the movie so often. OK, I made that last part up.

    "Apes" just made $3.9 million in Spain, the biggest movie opening ever
    there.

    - -
    - - Jeff


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "J. Crawford" <jcraw1@...>
    To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 6:45 AM
    Subject: rather watch [was Re: [pota] Digest Number 661]


    > Hi!
    >
    > I've been on holiday, so I've been keeping up via digest format.
    > Please excuse my tardiness in this matter.
    >
    > I think that Burton's film is actually a 'better' version or 're-telling'
    of
    > BATTLE than maybe of the original film. It's not hard to re-imagine, say
    > maybe Brent's search for Taylor along similar lines. No way am I watching
    > the new film before CONQUEST though, IMO best of the original 'sequels'.
    >
    > Hey, by the way, who do we write to get that 'directors cut' of CONQUEST
    on
    > DVD?
    >
    > Best Wishes!
    > J.
    >
    > > Message: 11
    > > Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 18:58:20 EDT
    > > From: LordTZer0@...
    > > Subject: Re: Re: Testing
    > >
    > > In a message dated 9/1/01 8:36:37 AM Central Daylight Time,
    > > dballard@... writes:
    > >
    > > << Personally I'd rather watch this than "Battle" or "Conquest" >>
    > >
    > > Thank you! I now feel vindicated...
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 10799 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: Re: sMel
    .html
    .html Jolly old England, my good fellow.

    Michael Whitty wrote:

     Hey Ken where were you born?Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ken & Heather Taylor [mailto:kentaylor@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2001 14:26
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] sMel
     
    NZ also. Sorry.

    Michael Whitty wrote:

    Sam Neil?
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ken & Heather Taylor [mailto:kentaylor@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2001 7:16
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] sMel
    Hey Michael,
    Russell Crowe was actually born in New Zealand. Nicole Kidman in Hawaii ( just in case she was your next back up.)
    Best,
    KEN

    Michael Whitty wrote:

    Hmmm....I guess it is his choice to be homophopic (if he is), but it would also be his choice to be homicidal - not a good choice in either scenario.I never heard any of those statements and I certainly would not agree with them.  People should be free to choose and express their individual preferences - and respect each other for them.No, there is nothing wrong with being a devout Catholic - but there is something wrong with thinking that being a devout Catholic means you have to say bad things about homosexuals.  I mean Jesus was a radical in his time, and whether he was the son of god or not, he taught that above all things we should treat one another as we expect to be treated.....and that's just plain common sense!So sorry about Mel.  I hear he was born in New York............let's talk about some Aussies!  Now Russell Crowe......he can act....Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 3:01
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
      I don't know if he's homophobic or not - - which is his choice. But there's been some statements along those lines attributed to him. Hurtful statements.  I hear he's a devout Catholic. Not that there's anything wrong with that.                       - - - Jeff
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:50 AM
    Subject: RE: [pota] Mel
    Sorry Jeff - can you clarify?  Are you saying Mel is homo-phobic?Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
    Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 8:11
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
     Yeah, but Mel thinks there's anything wrong with being gay.                                                                                    - - - Jeff
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:01 PM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
     In a message dated 9/2/01 4:58:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    whitty@... writes:
     
     
    Ummm.....I heard it was New Zeaand but I believe you.

    He does consider himself an Aussie though.....

    Oh never mind!

    Michael

    He was born on January 3, 1956 in Peekskill, New York, but I believe his
    father moved the family to Australia when Mel was between 5 and 10 years old.
     Yeah, he does consider himself Australian -- not that there's anything wrong
    with that!

    -- Rory

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    Group: pota Message: 10800 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: Check out NFR Nominations
    .html
    .htmlClick here: NFR Nominations

    Hey Gang,

    Why don't we really try to get the original "Planet of the Apes" on the
    National Film Registry?   Click above and nominate it.

    -- Rory
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    Group: pota Message: 10801 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/5/2001
    Subject: Re: Yeah!
    .html
    .html
    My bro Dave Ballard sent me the British SFX "Apes" Special. This is a must
    have. It's all "Apes", all the time. Plus a special sleeve, 2 lobby cards
    and "stat cards" for Cornelius and Thade. Book a ticket for the U.K. and go
    there NOW.
     
    Excellent to hear!
    Mines coming soon, thanks to SIR DAVID BALLARD as well.
     
    I'm now up to 6 hours of POTA 2001 T.V. Coverages.
    Once ready I'll be offering them on the site for fans that want a little piece of POTA 2001 history. (3 VHS's worth of T.V. Coverages)
     
    Thanks again SIR DAVE, yours are coming soon as well as SIR KURT.
    You guys have been a BIG help to me and the site.
    May the ALMIGHTY SIR SEMOS smile upon you and all those who loved POTA 2001 as much as I. :o)
     
    Best.
    Al
     
     
     
     
     
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    In a message dated 9/5/01 10:27:03 PM Central Daylight Time,
    prophecysite@... writes:

    << Once ready I'll be offering them on the site for fans that want a little
    piece of POTA 2001 history. (3 VHS's worth of T.V. Coverages) >>

    I have all the specials....any H B C on Letterman or Leno?
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    Group: pota Message: 10803 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/5/2001
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    I have all the specials....any H B C on Letterman or Leno?
     
    What these tapes contain of the top of my head?
     
    E! Channel 30. Special
    MTV 30 min Special
    HBO 30 min Special
    FOX 30 min Special
    InSide Entertainment 30 min Special Canada (thanks to Kurt)
    10 T.V. Trailers
    2 Movie Trailers
    Interview with the Stars (all talk shows)
    About 20 or so Short Spots on E! Channel
    10 or so Shot Spots on E.T.
    10 or so Short Spots on Access Hollywood
    CNN Primere Taday in New York (thanks to Kurt)
    Sci-Fi Channels Special trimed down to 30 min (only POTA)
    Discovey Channels Special trimed to 30 min (only POTA)
    2 or 3 more Canada Specials (thanks to Kurt)
    POTA Spoofs
     
    And a few more things I don't remeber off the top of my head. 6 hours of POTA coverages. A record of about 80% of all that was shown on both U.S. and Canadian Television. And about 60% of it that won't ever be seen again, not even on DVD
     
    Something for the fans.
     
    All the best.
    Al
     
    P.S. Tapes should be ready by mid September.
     
     
     
     
     
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    Group: pota Message: 10804 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/6/2001
    Subject: sMel
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    That explains a lot (old chap)!
     
    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ken & Heather Taylor [kentaylor@...]
    Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 11:04
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] sMel

    Jolly old England, my good fellow.

    Michael Whitty wrote:

     Hey Ken where were you born?Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ken & Heather Taylor [mailto:kentaylor@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2001 14:26
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] sMel
    NZ also. Sorry.

    Michael Whitty wrote:

    Sam Neil?
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ken & Heather Taylor [mailto:kentaylor@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2001 7:16
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] sMel
    Hey Michael,
    Russell Crowe was actually born in New Zealand. Nicole Kidman in Hawaii ( just in case she was your next back up.)
    Best,
    KEN

    Michael Whitty wrote:

    Hmmm....I guess it is his choice to be homophopic (if he is), but it would also be his choice to be homicidal - not a good choice in either scenario.I never heard any of those statements and I certainly would not agree with them.  People should be free to choose and express their individual preferences - and respect each other for them.No, there is nothing wrong with being a devout Catholic - but there is something wrong with thinking that being a devout Catholic means you have to say bad things about homosexuals.  I mean Jesus was a radical in his time, and whether he was the son of god or not, he taught that above all things we should treat one another as we expect to be treated.....and that's just plain common sense!So sorry about Mel.  I hear he was born in New York............let's talk about some Aussies!  Now Russell Crowe......he can act....Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 3:01
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
      I don't know if he's homophobic or not - - which is his choice. But there's been some statements along those lines attributed to him. Hurtful statements.  I hear he's a devout Catholic. Not that there's anything wrong with that.                       - - - Jeff
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:50 AM
    Subject: RE: [pota] Mel
    Sorry Jeff - can you clarify?  Are you saying Mel is homo-phobic?Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jack Krueger [mailto:williejoe@...]
    Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 8:11
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
     Yeah, but Mel thinks there's anything wrong with being gay.                                                                                    - - - Jeff
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    Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:01 PM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Mel
     In a message dated 9/2/01 4:58:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    whitty@... writes:
     
     
    Ummm.....I heard it was New Zeaand but I believe you.

    He does consider himself an Aussie though.....

    Oh never mind!

    Michael

    He was born on January 3, 1956 in Peekskill, New York, but I believe his
    father moved the family to Australia when Mel was between 5 and 10 years old.
     Yeah, he does consider himself Australian -- not that there's anything wrong
    with that!

    -- Rory

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    Group: pota Message: 10805 From: Michael Whitty Date: 9/6/2001
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    Al
     
    Could you please get the good lord to smile on Rory too and all his fellow conpitators who did NOT like the movie so much?
     
    Michael
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Alexander Ruiz [prophecysite@...]
    Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 13:32
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] Re: Yeah!

    My bro Dave Ballard sent me the British SFX "Apes" Special. This is a must
    have. It's all "Apes", all the time. Plus a special sleeve, 2 lobby cards
    and "stat cards" for Cornelius and Thade. Book a ticket for the U.K. and go
    there NOW.
     
    Excellent to hear!
    Mines coming soon, thanks to SIR DAVID BALLARD as well.
     
    I'm now up to 6 hours of POTA 2001 T.V. Coverages.
    Once ready I'll be offering them on the site for fans that want a little piece of POTA 2001 history. (3 VHS's worth of T.V. Coverages)
     
    Thanks again SIR DAVE, yours are coming soon as well as SIR KURT.
    You guys have been a BIG help to me and the site.
    May the ALMIGHTY SIR SEMOS smile upon you and all those who loved POTA 2001 as much as I. :o)
     
    Best.
    Al
     
     
     
     
     


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    Group: pota Message: 10806 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/6/2001
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    Al
     
    Could you please get the good lord to smile on Rory too and all his fellow conpitators who did NOT like the movie so much?
     
    Michael
     
     
    ahhh...Rory's cool.
    He just takes this whole POTA 2001 a little too personal.
    Me, I'm just having funny.
     
    Best.
    Al
     
     
     
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    Group: pota Message: 10807 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 9/6/2001
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    Me, I'm just having funny.
     
     
    Damn, I mean fun.
    Time for me to get some sleep.
     
    Best.
    Al
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