Maybe you should call yourself "T". There's enough "T" for two.

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To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 3:36 PM
Subject: [pota] What's in a name?


> Well thank you.
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> Makes you kinda wonder about me, doesn't it?
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> Michael
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> Sent: Monday, 8 October 2001 8:42
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> In a message dated 10/7/01 5:19:33 PM Central Daylight Time,
> whitty@... writes:
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> << I seem to have now evolved to
> Mikey. COOL! >>
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> I think Mick is a much cooler name than Mike.
> Mick Jones, Mick Jagger, can get much cooler than that.
> Mike? Makes me think of Mike Tyson...very uncool.
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<< I did read that Burton wanted the Oberon to look like a cross. Maybe
Alex is onto something. >>

Yeah, it looks like a cross, but it also looks like a pitchfork.
Read something into that.

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<< Makes you kinda wonder about me, doesn't it? >>

No, I know all about you.
My spys are everywhere!

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Oh well, if it is Alex giving you the dirt, don't believe a word.

Michael

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> << Makes you kinda wonder about me, doesn't it? >>
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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 4:52 PM

Subject: RE: [pota] Double Realities BATMAN!!!

That's unreal.

 

I bought an Akai for $500 (reduced from $750).  It was ok but when I tried to play Disney's "Dinosaur" it would not work - kept skipping and breaking up.

 

Then when I got the Toy Story box it would not load the menu for the supplemental disc - the whole idea I got the Box after having purchased the 2 originals separately.

 

So I bought a Sony ($550, Reduced from $800).  It works great, had Dolby 5.1 and DTS.  It only plays one zone (zone 4) and you cannot copy to VHS.

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz [prophecysite@...]
Sent: Monday, 8 October 2001 9:56
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Double Realities BATMAN!!!

My DVD player cost $100 and it plays fine. It was a floor model and an off brand (Apex, cute huh?). I spent almost as much for the "Apes" box set.

 

 

An APEX!!!

Holy moly Jeff, I bought the same one a while back!

 

Mine is an AD-500W model that plays Region Free DVDs in Pal and NTSC formats and also CODE free DVDs. Meaning I can record my DVDs on VHS. Make backups of my DVDs.

 

WOW! MIRROR REALITIES!

 

Best.

Al

 

P.S. Mine cost $169.00 Brand new.

 

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<< My DVD player cost $100 and it plays fine. It was a floor model and an
off brand (Apex, cute huh?). I spent almost as much for the "Apes" box set. >>

Whether I get the multi-disc player for an Apes fest or not, I'll be going
with Sony. They've never been know to make crap. Though I have nothing
against Apex.

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One of the things I always liked about BENEATH as a sequel was the fact that it was a story unto itself as opposed to a rehash of the original. If you watch PLANET and BENEATH back to back and try to see it as one long story, it doesn't work. They're independent of each other, and to me that speaks to the overall strength of BENEATH.

Chris L.




Well, I agree that not only BENEATH but ALL the sequels are really "stories unto themselves."  Roddy McDowall talked about this in the interview on the S.E. BEHIND DVD.  He didn't like to hear from fans asking or telling him how this brought about that from sequel to sequel.  He wouldn't have been interested in an APES timeline.  I like an analogy he used were he talked about the old Frankenstein films and he says, "Now, you're telling me in the last film the Monster was frozen in ice or blown up, but now he's alive?"   It's the same with the APES movies.   OF course TELL THAT TO FOX!  For them POTA is ALL Five of the movies as one thing -- the APES saga.  But it really isn't, it is five separate films.

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Mine can only load one disc at a time. You want multi-disc, you pay for
it. They have players that'll load your whole DVD collection, and you'll
never have to get out of your Attar Signature chair, but you could finance
a new "Apes" movie for the cost.

- - -
- Jeff

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Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Just go spend $2 000!


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> << My DVD player cost $100 and it plays fine. It was a floor model and
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set. >>
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> Whether I get the multi-disc player for an Apes fest or not, I'll be going
> with Sony. They've never been know to make crap. Though I have nothing
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It was a bit like comparing POTA to that thing Burton and Alex re-imagined.  You only really need to see the inferior 2001 version once and you know what you would pay more for!:) hehehehehehe

Michael



Oh, you poor Aussies!  Hehehehehe!    Well, most people would hear the difference between a surround system that's $300 and another that's $1200.  And with Dolby Digital it's all so. . . . well, DIGITAL. . . . it pretty much the same.  Now, more expensive speakers. . . . yes, yes.   But for the average "Joe,"  I don't know.

Anyway, if I were any of you out there without a DVD player yet, just go get one that'd between $150 and $250.  Just make sure it's a major brand.  It'll be okay.  EXCEPT if you're an Aussie, then it'll break on you!  hehehehehe!

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It was a bit like comparing POTA to that thing Burton and Alex re-imagined.  You only really need to see the inferior 2001 version once and you know what you would pay more for!:) hehehehehehe

Michael



Oh, you poor Aussies!  Hehehehehe!    Well, most people would hear the difference between a surround system that's $300 and another that's $1200.  And with Dolby Digital it's all so. . . . well, DIGITAL. . . . it pretty much the same.  Now, more expensive speakers. . . . yes, yes.   But for the average "Joe,"  I don't know.

Anyway, if I were any of you out there without a DVD player yet, just go get one that'd between $150 and $250.  Just make sure it's a major brand.  It'll be okay.  EXCEPT if you're an Aussie, then it'll break on you!  hehehehehe!

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How do I still to Mickey Mouse movies?

Michael



Alex the incomprehensible strikes again!  Heheheheheh  :-D

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Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 5:13 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] giving away the ending

In a message dated 10/7/01 5:32:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lawford42@... writes:

One of the things I always liked about BENEATH as a sequel was the fact that it was a story unto itself as opposed to a rehash of the original. If you watch PLANET and BENEATH back to back and try to see it as one long story, it doesn't work. They're independent of each other, and to me that speaks to the overall strength of BENEATH.

Chris L.

Well, I agree that not only BENEATH but ALL the sequels are really "stories unto themselves."  Roddy McDowall talked about this in the interview on the S.E. BEHIND DVD.  He didn't like to hear from fans asking or telling him how this brought about that from sequel to sequel.  He wouldn't have been interested in an APES timeline.  I like an analogy he used were he talked about the old Frankenstein films and he says, "Now, you're telling me in the last film the Monster was frozen in ice or blown up, but now he's alive?"   It's the same with the APES movies.   OF course TELL THAT TO FOX!  For them POTA is ALL Five of the movies as one thing -- the APES saga.  But it really isn't, it is five separate films.

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How do I still to Mickey Mouse movies?

Michael

I meant "stick", but I see you understood what I said anyhow.
Which only proves my point.

Best.
Al




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What does everyone else in the group think of Alex's genius revelation?

Michael



I think Alex is the greatest of all APES fans.  He's the BEST!  Heheheh.  The Lawgiver himself bows before Alex.   Hey, you all MUST agree that POTA 2001 really, REALLY needs a fan like Alex.

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In a message dated 10/7/01 6:29:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

How do I still to Mickey Mouse movies?

Michael

Alex the incomprehensible strikes again!  Heheheheheh  :-D

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From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 5:13 PM

Subject: [pota] Einstein.

Alex

 

If you are such a genius, tell me how much it will cost to make this baby work in Australia with a 240 volt power source.

 

Oh yeah and while you are there, convert $500 Aus to US$.  It is around $250US.

 

Also, APEX?  Who makes them?  Mine's a SONY!!

 

Oh dear, looks to me like you are really an ignorant fuck!  Well, I am surprised, you come across as being so knowledgable!

 

Well, at least you didn't just make this one up!!!!

 

hehehehe all the way home!

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz [prophecysite@...]
Sent: Monday, 8 October 2001 10:14
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] DVD Region FREE Mikey

That's unreal.

 

I bought an Akai for $500 (reduced from $750).  It was ok but when I tried to play Disney's "Dinosaur" it would not work - kept skipping and breaking up.

 

Then when I got the Toy Story box it would not load the menu for the supplemental disc - the whole idea I got the Box after having purchased the 2 originals separately.

 

So I bought a Sony ($550, Reduced from $800).  It works great, had Dolby 5.1 and DTS.  It only plays one zone (zone 4) and you cannot copy to VHS.

 

Michael

 

SEEK AND YOU SHALL FIND!

 

http://search.ebaystores.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&sid=2420509&store=www.cmttrading.com&colorid=6&fp=0&query=dvd+region+free+player&srchdesc=y

 

I am a f**ken Genius Mike.

You payed $500-800!!!???

 

Poor baby...  :o(

 

Best.

Al

 

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What does everyone else in the group think of Alex's genius revelation?

Michael



I think Alex is the greatest of all APES fans.  He's the BEST!  Heheheh.  The Lawgiver himself bows before Alex.   Hey, you all MUST agree that POTA 2001 really, REALLY needs a fan like Alex.

OH BOY!  DOES IT NEED A FAN LIKE ALEX!

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What does everyone else in the group think of Alex's genius revelation?

Michael



I think Alex is the greatest of all APES fans.  He's the BEST!  Heheheh.  The Lawgiver himself bows before Alex.   Hey, you all MUST agree that POTA 2001 really, REALLY needs a fan like Alex.

OH BOY!  DOES IT NEED A FAN LIKE ALEX!

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What is your point?

Are you making personal attacks Alex?

Michael



I think at this time we ALL need to make personal attacks to relieve some of the tension.   So, I'm now going to make a personal attack on EVERYONE in this group:

You're all a bunch of LOUSY HUMAN BASTARDS!!!!!

Okay, now I feel better.

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What is your point?

Are you making personal attacks Alex?

Grow up Mike, that's all I'm saying.
My explanations are on the site, you don't like them?
That's your problem not mine.

So learn to deal with it.

Best.
Al



Alex. . . You're soooo mean!

Best,
Rory  :-)


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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 5:13 PM

Subject: [pota] Einstein.

Alex

 

If you are such a genius, tell me how much it will cost to make this baby work in Australia with a 240 volt power source.

 

Oh yeah and while you are there, convert $500 Aus to US$.  It is around $250US.

 

Also, APEX?  Who makes them?  Mine's a SONY!!

 

Oh dear, looks to me like you are really an ignorant fuck!  Well, I am surprised, you come across as being so knowledgable!

 

Well, at least you didn't just make this one up!!!!

 

hehehehe all the way home!

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, 8 October 2001 10:14
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] DVD Region FREE Mikey

That's unreal.

 

I bought an Akai for $500 (reduced from $750).  It was ok but when I tried to play Disney's "Dinosaur" it would not work - kept skipping and breaking up.

 

Then when I got the Toy Story box it would not load the menu for the supplemental disc - the whole idea I got the Box after having purchased the 2 originals separately.

 

So I bought a Sony ($550, Reduced from $800).  It works great, had Dolby 5.1 and DTS.  It only plays one zone (zone 4) and you cannot copy to VHS.

 

Michael

 

SEEK AND YOU SHALL FIND!

 

http://search.ebaystores.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&sid=2420509&store=www.cmttrading.com&colorid=6&fp=0&query=dvd+region+free+player&srchdesc=y

 

I am a f**ken Genius Mike.

You payed $500-800!!!???

 

Poor baby...  :o(

 

Best.

Al

 

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Alex is a genius.

He is very wise too.

If he says Pluto is not a Planet, he is right.



ALEX IS WRONG!!!!!    Pluto is Mickey's dog!   Or is that Mikey?  Or Mike?  Or Mick?

D'oh!!!!

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What is your point?

Are you making personal attacks Alex?

Grow up Mike, that's all I'm saying.
My explanations are on the site, you don't like them?
That's your problem not mine.

So learn to deal with it.

Best.
Al



Alex. . . You're soooo mean!

Best,
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Alex is a genius.

He is very wise too.

If he says Pluto is not a Planet, he is right.



ALEX IS WRONG!!!!!    Pluto is Mickey's dog!   Or is that Mikey?  Or Mike?  Or Mick?

D'oh!!!!

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  If there isn't a sequel Burton's going to look like a fool because the whole reason for that movie's existence is to have a sequel. Here's what I've considered. Some feel that "Mars Attacks" is Burton's comment on the mindlessness of event movies: a big cast, lots of explosions and not much else. Perhaps "Apes" is his big comment on the preoccupation with sequels. He takes a story that is infamous for being milked to death, makes a movie that is one long prelude to a sequel, then doesn't do a sequel. The joke's on US. Get it?                                                    - - - - Jeff

Jeff, why are you writing this stuff when you should be telling us about the dedication of Roddy's Rose Garden?

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 The first half of "Beneath" is a complete rehash of the original. "Escape" is a reversal. "Conquest" and "Battle" are actually fairly original, after Dehn had run out of Boulle's novel to use. The second half of Boulle's novel is similar to "Escape". But, it's based on the Christ story.

CONQUEST is based on a chapter in Boulle's novel.  Chapter 34.  Go read it sometime.

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Sent: Monday, 8 October 2001 10:56
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Subject: [pota] Re: SEMOS HELP IDIOTS!!!!

You are full of shit Alex.  You are making this up.  Prove it.

 

Michael

 

 

You will wait til doomsday and like it.

ahh....freedom. :o)

 

Best.

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I read the novel earlier this year for the first time. Yes, you're right that
in the book it talks about things later made into Conquest and Escape. Those
were some of my favorite parts.

Loc


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<< In a message dated 10/7/01 7:40:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:

> The first half of "Beneath" is a complete rehash of the original.

"Escape"

> is a reversal. "Conquest" and "Battle" are actually fairly original, after
> Dehn had run out of Boulle's novel to use. The second half of Boulle's
> novel is similar to "Escape". But, it's based on the Christ story.
>
>

CONQUEST is based on a chapter in Boulle's novel. Chapter 34. Go read it
sometime.

How long has it been since most of you read Boulle's book?

-- Rory

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What is your point?

Are you making personal attacks Alex?

Michael



I think at this time we ALL need to make personal attacks to relieve some of the tension.   So, I'm now going to make a personal attack on EVERYONE in this group:

You're all a bunch of LOUSY HUMAN BASTARDS!!!!!

Okay, now I feel better.

Best,
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 Jesus Christ, you're right. Semos IS an anagram for Moses! And Broyles said Thade is an anagram for death. He likes those things.

And All the King's horses, and all the King's men -- including Alex -- can't make this Humpty-Dumpty hodgepodge of half-baked shallow claptrap piece of crap no idea of a stupid 're-imagining' movie any better!!!!

Just go ask Roger EGGbert!   POTA 1968 RULES FOREVER!!!!

I AM A POTA RADICAL FUNDAMENTALIST!!!!   THE LAWGIVER IS GREAT!!!  AND. . . . I declare HOLY JIHAD on POTA 2001!!!

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 Jesus Christ, you're right. Semos IS an anagram for Moses! And Broyles said Thade is an anagram for death. He likes those things.

And All the King's horses, and all the King's men -- including Alex -- can't make this Humpty-Dumpty hodgepodge of half-baked shallow claptrap piece of crap no idea of a stupid 're-imagining' movie any better!!!!

Just go ask Roger EGGbert!   POTA 1968 RULES FOREVER!!!!

I AM A POTA RADICAL FUNDAMENTALIST!!!!   THE LAWGIVER IS GREAT!!!  AND. . . . I declare HOLY JIHAD on POTA 2001!!!

Best,
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Can I join your group?

Michael



All are welcome who will proclaim PLANET OF THE APES 1968 as the one true POTA film, and join me to rid the world of the menace and walking pestilence of Alex bin Laden and the forces of POTA 2001!

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One that plugs into MY power point?  You fuck up.

And on that four-letter note, I'm joining Alex for some popcorn!

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veetus@... writes:

<< My DVD player cost $100 and it plays fine. It was a floor model and an off
brand (Apex, cute huh?). I spent almost as much for the "Apes" box set. >>

I'm getting a new DVD player with my B-Day money, and I won't pay over 150
for one. I just need one with a detachable remote, which my older one
didn't. It got very annoying having to get off of my ass just to fast
forward, something I didn't have to do with my old, junky VCR. Now, this
just proves I'm lazy...

-Joe

In a message dated 10/7/01 7:48:17 PM, veetus@... writes:

<< Jesus Christ, you're right. Semos IS an anagram for Moses! And Broyles
said Thade is an anagram for death. He likes those things. >>

I hear Krull was an anagram for Ulkrl.

Matt

In a message dated 10/7/01 8:14:10 PM, Haristas@... writes:

<< Well, I agree that not only BENEATH but ALL the sequels are really
"stories
unto themselves." Roddy McDowall talked about this in the interview on the
S.E. BEHIND DVD. He didn't like to hear from fans asking or telling him how
this brought about that from sequel to sequel. He wouldn't have been
interested in an APES timeline. I like an analogy he used were he talked
about the old Frankenstein films and he says, "Now, you're telling me in the
last film the Monster was frozen in ice or blown up, but now he's alive?"
It's the same with the APES movies. OF course TELL THAT TO FOX! For them
POTA is ALL Five of the movies as one thing -- the APES saga. But it really
isn't, it is five separate films. >>

You know, one of the reasons I like POTA so much is because of the saga. I
like the way the first four films work as a complete story. BATTLE is a
throwaway and doesn't advance the story so that's why I could care less about
it.

Matt

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<< I hear Krull was an anagram for Ulkrl. >>

Urkle? Heh

-Joe

In a message dated 10/7/01 8:27:40 PM, veetus@... writes:

<< I watched that Roddy interview with Bill Blake last night. He didn't
think he'd be able to sit through 2 hours of it but the time flew by. I wish
it had chapter stops. >>

It does have chapter stops, but no menu, so unless you take notes the first
time you watch it you won't know what chapter discusses what.

You also can barely hear the interviewer's questions. I wish they would have
subtitled them. It kind of seems like a rush job, but I guess it's better
than nothing.

What did Roddy mean when he referred to Arthur Jacobs as "delicious?"

Matt

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In a message dated 10/7/01 7:26:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

  If there isn't a sequel Burton's going to look like a fool because the whole reason for that movie's existence is to have a sequel. Here's what I've considered. Some feel that "Mars Attacks" is Burton's comment on the mindlessness of event movies: a big cast, lots of explosions and not much else. Perhaps "Apes" is his big comment on the preoccupation with sequels. He takes a story that is infamous for being milked to death, makes a movie that is one long prelude to a sequel, then doesn't do a sequel. The joke's on US. Get it?                                                    - - - - Jeff

Jeff, why are you writing this stuff when you should be telling us about the dedication of Roddy's Rose Garden?

-- Rory


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From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] SEMOS HELP IDIOTS!!!!

In a message dated 10/7/01 9:14:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

One that plugs into MY power point?  You fuck up.

And on that four-letter note, I'm joining Alex for some popcorn!

Best,
Rory

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What did Roddy mean when he referred to Arthur Jacobs as "delicious?"

Matt

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.htmlIn a message dated 10/7/01 11:17:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

  I already said I was late. That's Brian's department now. Except that it was populated by a bunch of rich people who sniffed at us. It was a fund raiser for the Fund. These people can find $1,000,000 under their seat cushion. Not my crowd - - - - yet.

                                                                    - - - - Jeff



Yeah, I'll bet Liz "Taylor!" is an old-Hollywood snob!  (Roddy probably was, too)   I'd have sniffed right back!

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In a message dated 10/7/01 9:49:48 PM Central Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:

<< I hear Krull was an anagram for Ulkrl. >>

Or was that Urkle?

Holy Cow, you're right! Matt, you're delicious! Here's the chapter stops I
came up with. I had my friend Liz Taylor come over and christen them, so
they're official.

1. Walk Like An Ape - - - 00:00:00

2. A Tough Sell - - - 00:08:09

3. The Makeup - - - 00:14:49

4. Makeup Maintenance - - - 00:24:06

5. Co-existing with Ape Actors/The Storytelling
- - - 00:32:40

6. The First Film - - - 00:42:41

7. Success/the Sequels - - - 00:54:36

8. Dark Themes/Caesar - - - 01:11:24

9. The TV Show - - - 01:20:14

10. Franchise/Arthur - - - 01:28:36

11. A Remake/Walk Like An Ape (Reprise)
- - - 01:40:10

12. Room Tone - - - 01:50:01

- -
- Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] giving away the ending


>
> In a message dated 10/7/01 8:27:40 PM, veetus@... writes:
>
> << I watched that Roddy interview with Bill Blake last night. He didn't
> think he'd be able to sit through 2 hours of it but the time flew by. I
wish
> it had chapter stops. >>
>
> It does have chapter stops, but no menu, so unless you take notes the
first
> time you watch it you won't know what chapter discusses what.
>
> You also can barely hear the interviewer's questions. I wish they would
have
> subtitled them. It kind of seems like a rush job, but I guess it's better
> than nothing.
>
> What did Roddy mean when he referred to Arthur Jacobs as "delicious?"
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Can I join your group?

Michael



All are welcome who will proclaim PLANET OF THE APES 1968 as the one true POTA film, and join me to rid the world of the menace and walking pestilence of Alex bin Laden and the forces of POTA 2001!

The Lawgiver is great!!   Semos is a false god!

-- Rory Akbah!

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Arthur Jacobs completeists take note! His production of "Play It Again,
Sam", the Woody Allen comedy, is scheduled to hit DVD on the 23rd. It's a
$30 package, so I don't know if it's a 2-disc set or what. Jacobs' output
was almost exactly half musicals and half "Ape" movies, so this was an odd
choice. But Jacobs loved movies and he loved "Casablanca" so this story of
Bogie giving Woody tips on his love life obviously appealed to Jacobs. It's
unlikely Jacobs' remaining flicks ("What A Way To Go", "Goodbye, Mr. Chips",
"The Chairman", "Tom Sawyer", "Huckleberry Finn") will be on DVD any time
soon.

- - - - -
Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <veetus@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 11:19 PM
Subject: [pota] Roddy Chapter Stops


> Holy Cow, you're right! Matt, you're delicious! Here's the chapter stops
I
> came up with. I had my friend Liz Taylor come over and christen them, so
> they're official.
>
> 1. Walk Like An Ape - - - 00:00:00
>
> 2. A Tough Sell - - - 00:08:09
>
> 3. The Makeup - - - 00:14:49
>
> 4. Makeup Maintenance - - - 00:24:06
>
> 5. Co-existing with Ape Actors/The Storytelling
> - - - 00:32:40
>
> 6. The First Film - - - 00:42:41
>
> 7. Success/the Sequels - - - 00:54:36
>
> 8. Dark Themes/Caesar - - - 01:11:24
>
> 9. The TV Show - - - 01:20:14
>
> 10. Franchise/Arthur - - - 01:28:36
>
> 11. A Remake/Walk Like An Ape (Reprise)
> - - - 01:40:10
>
> 12. Room Tone - - - 01:50:01
>
> -
-
> - Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <MTotsky@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 7:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [pota] giving away the ending
>
>
> >
> > In a message dated 10/7/01 8:27:40 PM, veetus@... writes:
> >
> > << I watched that Roddy interview with Bill Blake last night. He didn't
> > think he'd be able to sit through 2 hours of it but the time flew by. I
> wish
> > it had chapter stops. >>
> >
> > It does have chapter stops, but no menu, so unless you take notes the
> first
> > time you watch it you won't know what chapter discusses what.
> >
> > You also can barely hear the interviewer's questions. I wish they would
> have
> > subtitled them. It kind of seems like a rush job, but I guess it's
better
> > than nothing.
> >
> > What did Roddy mean when he referred to Arthur Jacobs as "delicious?"
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Semos is pathetic.

Hey Rory, do you think that "pod" looks more like a necklace?  Or maybe a modern toilet......????

Michael



Well, let's see. . . . . . It's in the service of shit, therefore I vote for a modern toilet.

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.htmlIn a message dated 10/8/01 2:32:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

 Arthur Jacobs completeists take note! His production of "Play It Again,
Sam", the Woody Allen comedy, is scheduled to hit DVD on the 23rd. It's a
$30 package, so I don't know if it's a 2-disc set or what. Jacobs' output
was almost exactly half musicals and half "Ape" movies, so this was an odd
choice. But Jacobs loved movies and he loved "Casablanca" so this story of
Bogie giving Woody tips on his love life obviously appealed to Jacobs. It's
unlikely Jacobs' remaining flicks ("What A Way To Go", "Goodbye, Mr. Chips",
"The Chairman", "Tom Sawyer", "Huckleberry Finn") will be on DVD any time
soon.

                                                                  - - - - -
Jeff

Are you going to buy it, Jeff?   How many here have seen it.  I haven't watched it in years.  I'll probably wait and see if Blockbuster gets the DVD, then I'll just rent it.  I have "Casablanca" on DVD, so maybe I'll eventually buy "Play It Again, Sam" but I don't know.  I'm so confused.

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From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 4:45 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Play Jacobs Again, Sam

In a message dated 10/8/01 2:32:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

 Arthur Jacobs completeists take note! His production of "Play It Again,
Sam", the Woody Allen comedy, is scheduled to hit DVD on the 23rd. It's a
$30 package, so I don't know if it's a 2-disc set or what. Jacobs' output
was almost exactly half musicals and half "Ape" movies, so this was an odd
choice. But Jacobs loved movies and he loved "Casablanca" so this story of
Bogie giving Woody tips on his love life obviously appealed to Jacobs. It's
unlikely Jacobs' remaining flicks ("What A Way To Go", "Goodbye, Mr. Chips",
"The Chairman", "Tom Sawyer", "Huckleberry Finn") will be on DVD any time
soon.

                                                                  - - - - -
Jeff

Are you going to buy it, Jeff?   How many here have seen it.  I haven't watched it in years.  I'll probably wait and see if Blockbuster gets the DVD, then I'll just rent it.  I have "Casablanca" on DVD, so maybe I'll eventually buy "Play It Again, Sam" but I don't know.  I'm so confused.

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Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:

> You can get a DVD player for $150.00 and a decent surround system for
> $250.00. $400 to $500 dollars. What's that?

Yeah, but don't forget a nice big TV too - if you're going to go for the
whole hog, you'll be wanting a massive telly too!

Alan

Does anyone know how many different labels released the soundtrack to the
original film? I have the Project 3 version on CD (as well as Lp and
cassette), and the Intrada and Varese Sarabande versions on CD (I don't
believe those labels bothered releasing it any other format). I've heard
there was a fourth label that issued a version this year but haven't been
able to find anything out.


Chris L.
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In a message dated 10/7/01 5:32:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lawford42@... writes:

One of the things I always liked about BENEATH as a sequel was the fact that it was a story unto itself as opposed to a rehash of the original. If you watch PLANET and BENEATH back to back and try to see it as one long story, it doesn't work. They're independent of each other, and to me that speaks to the overall strength of BENEATH.

Chris L.

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On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 22:49:40 EDT MTotsky@... writes:

> You know, one of the reasons I like POTA so much is because of the
> saga. I like the way the first four films work as a complete story.

BATTLE

> is a throwaway and doesn't advance the story so that's why I could care

> less about it.

I have to disagree with your comments about BATTLE. It's been defended on
this list before (and quite well by that one guy who wrote that three
part essay a month or so back). I believe it does advance the story
inasmuch as you get to see the result of the events of CONQUEST (at the
beginning of the film) and the main bulk of the story is about Caesar
trying to learn what had happened so far (the history of his parents and
the original 'Planet') and how to avoid the fate that had already
befallen the Earth once. The relationship between apes and humans is
somewhat improved at the end of the film, but questions remain i.e. how
long will the goodwill last between the two species, what will the
mutants do next since even though they lost the war they still have the
Alpha-Omega bomb, and so forth. The extended version of the film is
better, but if you really want to get the full gist of the story you
should read Marvel's adaptation.


Chris L.
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  What? Since when is science based on "sentimental favorites"?

 

 

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From: Chris Lawless

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 1:05 PM

Subject: [pota] PLUTO

 

Umm...Alex? I hate to throw a kink in everything you wrote out, but:

 

http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast17feb99_1.htm

 

 

It's a long article (worth reading though) but the gist of it is "Mistaken reports that the IAU intended to strip Pluto of its planetary status caused an uproar among astronomers and in the popular press. It seems that Pluto is a sentimental favorite to remain a planet among both scientists and the public."

 

 

BTW, did you get that e-mail I sent you on 9/30?

 

 

Chris L.

On Sat, 6 Oct 2001 17:14:45 -0400 "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@...> writes:

If you'd notice the image of Semos, there are 7 stars (planets) with Semos being the 8th. A total of 8 Planets. 8 Planets in our solar system (Pluto is no longer considered a planet) With the image of Calima below as the SUN.

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Thought I'd get a discussion going here, so: which upcoming POTA DVD
release are you MORE looking forward to- the TV Series or the Burton
film? Being a huge fan of the series, it'll be nice to finally get
complete, uncut versions of the episodes. Sci-Fi Channel used to butcher
those so badly, going as far as to cut out Urko's final lines at the end
of 'The Tyrant". But the saving grace there was Roddy's commentary, which
would've been nice to include with this release.

And I believe I've already (barf) made my feeling known (puke) about the
new film (blows chunks) so I'm not going to get into that discussion
again. ;-)

So let your thoughts be known!


Chris L.
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Good points Chris.

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Lawless [lawford42@...]
Sent: Monday, 8 October 2001 6:44
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Kubrick

On Mon, 1 Oct 2001 20:25:04 +1000 "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> writes:

Rory,

 

I thought "Eyes Wide Shut" was an excuse for Kubrick to masturbate while filming.  I got no deep message except that maybe contemplating betraying your partner can lead to more danger than one ever bargained for. 

 

I thought that was part of the message, but also there was the theme of Cruise's character being out of his element. Feeling betrayed by his wife, he romanticized a sexually charged lifestyle in his head and thought he could walk right into said lifestyle. It'd be like a guy just showing up on the set of a porno movie looking to star in a feature. It doesn't happen that way because you have to earn your way into that industry (unless you're doing the homegrown thing, in which case everyone is a star).

 

 

I will never understand why the movie would end with Nicole's shallow suggestion. 

 

Can't answer that one for you, unless you want to see it as some sort of reference to the fact that the simple answer to a problem (in this case, their marital problems) is often the correct one. The shortest distance between two points is a straight line, after all.

 

 

Chris L.

 

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In a message dated 10/8/01 3:01:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
lawford42@... writes:

<< And I believe I've already (barf) made my feeling known (puke) about the
new film (blows chunks) so I'm not going to get into that discussion
again. ;-) >>

What, you get so excited over it that it makes you blow chunks?

Anyway, I'm excited over Apes 2001 DVD release. If it didn't have anything
extra, like the deleted scenes, I'd have to say the TV series, but the extras
were included. Although, it still is a close call...

-Joe

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Hello, anybody knows sites where i can find good pics
of the NEW MOVIE (not the old ones), speccialy of
ARI (helena bonham carter) ?

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Rory will know!!!

Really though, try ebay or the new gum cards.

Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: daisyduckbr@... [daisyduckbr@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2001 8:17
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Pictures
>
>
> Hello, anybody knows sites where i can find good pics
> of the NEW MOVIE (not the old ones), speccialy of
> ARI (helena bonham carter) ?
>
>
>
>
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Good points Chris.

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Lawless [lawford42@...]
Sent: Monday, 8 October 2001 6:44
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Kubrick

On Mon, 1 Oct 2001 20:25:04 +1000 "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> writes:

Rory,

 

I thought "Eyes Wide Shut" was an excuse for Kubrick to masturbate while filming.  I got no deep message except that maybe contemplating betraying your partner can lead to more danger than one ever bargained for. 

 

I thought that was part of the message, but also there was the theme of Cruise's character being out of his element. Feeling betrayed by his wife, he romanticized a sexually charged lifestyle in his head and thought he could walk right into said lifestyle. It'd be like a guy just showing up on the set of a porno movie looking to star in a feature. It doesn't happen that way because you have to earn your way into that industry (unless you're doing the homegrown thing, in which case everyone is a star).

 

 

I will never understand why the movie would end with Nicole's shallow suggestion. 

 

Can't answer that one for you, unless you want to see it as some sort of reference to the fact that the simple answer to a problem (in this case, their marital problems) is often the correct one. The shortest distance between two points is a straight line, after all.

 

 

Chris L.

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TV Series.

And stop upsetting Alex with your opinions about POTA 2001. He says it is
great and he has 4 DVD players so he is an authority.

Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Lawless [lawford42@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2001 5:18
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] DVD vote
>
>
> Thought I'd get a discussion going here, so: which upcoming POTA DVD
> release are you MORE looking forward to- the TV Series or the Burton
> film? Being a huge fan of the series, it'll be nice to finally get
> complete, uncut versions of the episodes. Sci-Fi Channel used to butcher
> those so badly, going as far as to cut out Urko's final lines at the end
> of 'The Tyrant". But the saving grace there was Roddy's commentary, which
> would've been nice to include with this release.
>
> And I believe I've already (barf) made my feeling known (puke) about the
> new film (blows chunks) so I'm not going to get into that discussion
> again. ;-)
>
> So let your thoughts be known!
>
>
> Chris L.
> ____

I certainly hope the extras make more sense of that ridiculous plot, but I
am not all that confident!

Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: CheeseGOTAS@... [CheeseGOTAS@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2001 6:18
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pota] DVD vote
>
>
> In a message dated 10/8/01 3:01:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
> lawford42@... writes:
>
> << And I believe I've already (barf) made my feeling known (puke)
> about the
> new film (blows chunks) so I'm not going to get into that discussion
> again. ;-) >>
>
> What, you get so excited over it that it makes you blow chunks?
>
> Anyway, I'm excited over Apes 2001 DVD release. If it didn't
> have anything
> extra, like the deleted scenes, I'd have to say the TV series,
> but the extras
> were included. Although, it still is a close call...
>
> -Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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I have been sent this e-mail address from Fox Broadcasting:

foxmovies@...

Now, I haven't sent anything yet, and I don't know if this is the studio or
the home video division.

BUT. . . it's worth a try.  Let the e-mail requests commence.

-- Rory

 

 

 

On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:16:03 EDT Haristas@... writes:

 

Yeah what's the address for letters to Fox.  
I'd like to write.

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I can't remember now- in Escape, did Cornelius specify what species Aldo
was?


Chris L.


On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:44:24 -0400 (EST) "Melkor"
<melkor@...> writes:

> > Paul Dehn was the sole writer on "Conquest" and was good friends
> with
> >Arthur Jacobs (staying at his house when he was in L.A. to write
> the
> >scripts) so I'm sure he made his intentions known to Jacobs. There
> were a
> >lot of changes made on "Conquest" that I don't think have been
> fully
> >addressed in interviews. - - - -
> Jeff
>
> Jacobs was not the director of CONQUEST. J. Lee Thompson was the
> director,
> and he probably didn't think it mattered that Aldo was supposed to
> be a
> gorilla instead of a chimp. I doubt that Paul Dehn (or Jacobs) even
> knew.
> I agree that there were a lot of changes made in CONQUEST, even more
> in
> BATTLE.
>
>
> > I think Aldo was made a gorilla in "Conquest" after the fact.
> Both the
> >comic and the novelization were done after "Battle" was produced
> and Aldo
> >was established as a gorilla in "Battle".
>
> Aldo was definitely supposed to be a gorilla in CONQUEST, not a
> chimp. The
> script came before the film, and both the book and the Marvel
> adaptation
> were based on the script, common in the days before VCRs. Marvel
> says that
> their adaptations were "nearly verbatim" from the scripts. Here is a
> quote,
> including emphasis, from the Marvel magazine [#27, p.23] explaining
> all this.
>
>

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
---

> All of the Apes adaptations done for this magazine were done from
> the SHOOTING
> SCRIPTS. For those unfamilar with the term, it refers to the script
> as it
> stands at the time principal photography is begun on a film. In
> most cases
> changes are made by the time the film is complete, both by the
> director
> or actors while the film is being shot and in the editing room where
> the
> film is put together...neither Doug Moench nor anyone at Marvel
> Comics made
> those changes...What you have been reading is a nearly verbatim
> adaptation
> of the SHOOTING SCRIPT provided by Fox...
>

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
> >I think it was intentional that
> >Aldo is beaten up and silenced in "Conquest" as a sly way of
> playing with
> >the history as established in "Escape" (for those who picked up on
> it. I'm
> >not sure why they decided to make Aldo a gorilla in "Battle".
>
> Yes, Aldo's character in both CONQUEST and BATTLE was meant to build
> upon
> his history in the earlier movies. Aldo makes sense as a gorilla
> in
> BATTLE because he was a military leader, and when the Corringtons
> wrote the
> script for BATTLE they didn't even realize that he had been turned
> from a
> gorilla into a chimp in CONQUEST. It's a shame that Aldo's
> character was
> messed up by Thompson in CONQUEST, because it would have provided
> great
> insight into his background in BATTLE and why Caesar put up with him
> for
> so long. Marvel (#17 p.26) describes Aldo in CONQUEST as "Caesar's
> accomplice in revolt, a battered messenger Gorilla".
>
> -Tom

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Boy, do I know how your husband feels.  I really think Hollywood has lost the
art of doing good narrative film.  Everything seems just aimed at the lowest
common denominator.  Everybody at Fox is probably slapping each other on the back over the 'success' of the new PLANET OF THE APES, and that's fine I
guess since just making money off crap seems to be more and more what the
Hollywood studios are all about.

-- Rory

 

 

In a message dated 8/2/01 4:41:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
boiledkelp@... writes:

I'm actually quite sad that we won't have a revival of something good to see
in theatres for a few years to come; that is, we won't have a really,
really
a$$-kicking POTA series. Not that all the sequels to the original were
kick-ass. Well, maybe we'll get lucky and they'll make the second new POTA
with driven characters and heart wrenching/pounding plot developement.
It's either that or it's like my husband commented:
"You know, I haven't seen a fantastic - I mean really fantastic - movie in
five or six years!"
They don't all have to be "fantastic", unless of course, they claim to be.
In that event, then they damn well better be!

All we really need is good story, good writing, good acting. Is that really
so diffiult to find in hollywood? It seems the answer is for the most part
yes.
The 2 movies I enjoyed most last year were both foreign. Not a hint of
tinsel on them.

jvb

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Don Post was the name of a company that licensed characters and made
Halloween costumes based on them back in the 70's. In fact, there was a
joke on one of the episodes of the Simpsons that made a reference to
them. Lisa was talking to Milhouse before embarking on trick-or-treating
and said something like"I doubt Radioactive Man goes around with a
costume on it that says Radioactive Man". I laughed and immediately
thought of the Lone Ranger costume I once wore.

Whoever wrote the text for that eBay sale was certainly taking a few
liberties with the truth.


Chris L.


On Thu, 02 Aug 2001 02:35:28 -0000 andygarringer@... writes:

> You know, I always thought that John Chambers did all the makeup on
> the original Planet of the Apes movies then I see this auction on
> ebay!!
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1452081540
>
> The seller states - This is an authentic "Don Post" original mask
> from the 1970's original series of Planet of the Apes movies. It was
> worn by an "extra" in one of the films, who is a person that is
> walking around in the background of the scenes, but has no close
> ups. Don Post made all of the makeup, masks and costumes for the

original

> Planet of the Apes movies.
>
> My brother has one of those masks too but I didn't know it was used
> in the movies!
>
> Sheesh!
> Andy

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OK Phil, which sequel are we talking about?


Chris L.


On Wed, 01 Aug 2001 09:33:52 -0400 "Philip Nobile"
<pjn1209@...> writes:

> "It'll all be explained in the sequel." Where've I heard that one

before .

> . . oh, yeah, now I remember. Same studio, too.


> >We'll all be trying to suss out that ending for some time to come.
> >Everyone has a theory as to exactly what happened, but until the
> >sequel clears it up it's anyone's best guess.

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Yeah, I remember when the Sci-Fi Channel was showing it around eight years
ago (along with the cartoon series for "Fantastic Voyage," and "Journey to
the Center of the Earth").  The shows would end with the '20th Century-Fox
Television' logo.

-- Rory

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.htmldefinetly the tv series. now if i can upgrade my apes cartoons to dvd......



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In a message dated 10/8/01 6:03:35 PM Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< What, with a speck of dust you are now claiming is Pluto because suddenly
everyone says Pluto is a planet? Are you sure that isn't the mark you left
when your brain fell out Alex?

Amazing how you claim one thing, then another when that is challenged!

Michael

>>

Third star from the left. There's a tiny speck to its right with its own
glow. Look harder.

-Joe

.htmlIn a message dated 10/8/01 3:14:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, alan@... writes:

Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:
> You can get a DVD player for $150.00 and a decent surround system for
> $250.00.   $400 to $500 dollars.  What's that?

Yeah, but don't forget a nice big TV too - if you're going to go for the
whole hog, you'll be wanting a massive telly too!

Alan

Yeah, I currently have a 32 inch 'telly' (don't know what that is in metric), but I want something bigger.  I'm just waiting for these digital TVs to come down in price.  But now with this economy going in the tank, who knows?!

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 10/8/01 7:24:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lawford42@... writes:

I can't remember now- in Escape, did Cornelius specify what species Aldo
was?


Chris L.

No, he didn't.

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.htmlIn a message dated 10/8/01 7:49:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

I have let this go for a LONG time Alex, thinking to myself "that's just poor old Alex being enthusiastic".

But when I give my opinion and you dismiss it by being condescending to me instead of just saying "Yes I know I can't PROVE it but I do believe it", you go too far.

Michael



Michael, stop wasting your time trying to reason with Alex.  He's Cubian.  There's no reasoning with those people.  I know, my step-father was Cubian, and when he made up his mind he was right about something, that was that.  We just have to ignore Alex.  He's mad, I tell you.  Hopelessly MAD!

-- Rory


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.htmlIn a message dated 10/8/01 4:04:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lawford42@... writes:

This is off topic, but does anyone know of a website that has a detailed list/description of the old Universal monster movies (the Frankenstein series especially). I'm not looking for an IMBD site so much as a knowledgeable fan site. Did anyone pick up those Frankenstein two on one DVDs that came out? I can't remember which titles were released, but I do know that Son of Frankenstein was one of them. Great movie BTW for those of you who haven't seen it (especially compared to that piece of crap BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN. I cannot believe there are some serious film historians that consider BRIDE superior to the original.

Yeah, I got three of those Universal double feature DVDs.  I got "Son of Frankenstein/Ghost of Frankenstein,"  Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man/House of Frankenstein," and "Werewolf of London/She-wolf of London."  They are a mixed bag, and they really skimped on the extras.  The print for "Son of Frankenstein" is very good.  That for "Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man" is in rough shape.  It could have used some digital restoration BIG TIME.

As for a website on the Universal Monster movies, all I can say is use a search engine and see what comes up.

However,  "Bride of Frankenstein" is one of the best movies of all time -- BRILLIANT!!, it's THE BEST of the Universal classic horror films, AND a better movie than "Frankenstein" (1931)!!!!   A piece of crap?!!!  You're crazy!!!!

I know 'alot' about the Universal Monster films, so feel free to ask me any questions.

-- Rory <.html