----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Are you game?


> By saying that the Sega system on play 'their games' do you mean only Sega
> developed games? I can tell you right now that that is not true.
>
> Like I said, I don't know much about them. Anyway until there's a
clear-cut
> winner, I'll stick with my 64. I'm not going to splash out a couple few
> hundred buck unless it's going to be around for a while. And of course
this
> has to have a version of Apes! I didn't even get a 64 until Goldeneye had
> been out for some time. I saw my nephew and brother playing it and had to
> have one that week. The last game system I had before that played Missile
> Command, Moon Patrol and Pac-Man.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Are you game?


> By saying that the Sega system on play 'their games' do you mean only Sega
> developed games? I can tell you right now that that is not true.
>
> Like I said, I don't know much about them. Anyway until there's a
clear-cut
> winner, I'll stick with my 64. I'm not going to splash out a couple few
> hundred buck unless it's going to be around for a while. And of course
this
> has to have a version of Apes! I didn't even get a 64 until Goldeneye had
> been out for some time. I saw my nephew and brother playing it and had to
> have one that week. The last game system I had before that played Missile
> Command, Moon Patrol and Pac-Man.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 7:41 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Dinosaurs extinct

I just checked www.worldwideboxoffice.com . POTA has overtaken "Jurassic Park 3". POTA has made $344 million to "Jurassic's $340. Where's Alex when you need him? He'd celebrate better.

That's cool Jeff.

I've always meant to check that out but kept on forgeting. And it seems it's going to stay on top as JP3 came out before APES. And as Michael said himself not too long ago. "America isn't the whole world." And I couldn't agree more.

 

POTA exclusives are coming on DVD.

I now officially have DVD fever. :o)

 

Best.

Al

 

 

 

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----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Baker vs. Baker


>
> In a message dated 10/25/01 11:42:53 PM, veetus@... writes:
>
> << In "Variety" they had an article about how "Phantom Menace" made $45
> million from DVDs it's first week and they were talking about the upcoming
> competition. For Nov. 20 they didn't say "Apes", they said "Grinch". But
> according to worldwide "Apes" surpassed "Grinch". I thought "Grinch" was a
> terrible movie. Since "Grinch" is formidable competition, if "Apes" whoops
> it, maybe that'll be what pushes it over into sequelville. But "Grinch"
will
> be tough. It's perfect for Christmas. >>
>
> I think the "Grinch" was quite possibly the worst movie ever made. They
> should have renamed it "How Ron Howard Raped the Memory of Ted Geisel."
What
> a travesty. I actually had high hopes for it considering that it had Jim
> Carrey, Baker and even Howard (who I am hit and miss with), but man what a
> waste. Still I think it will do good on DVD, kids always push things over
the
> top at Christmas and "Grinch" is definately more kid friendly than "Apes."
I
> wonder what kind of extras "Grinch" will have on it? Not that I
necessarily
> watch it, but if they could get footage of Dr. Seuss turning in his grave,
> that would really be something.
>
> No matter what you think of POTA 2001, just be thankful that they didn't
crap
> all over the Apes memory as much as they did the Grinch.
>
> Matt (hoping they don't do a live action version of "The Lorax" or "To
Think
> That I Saw It on Mulberry Street")
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: <veetus@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Baker vs. Baker


> I hear they want to do "The Cat in the Hat" with Mike meyers. I kid you
> not. By the way, Dr. Seuss was one of Burton's biggest influences (perhaps
> seen in "Nightmare B.C.").
>
> Baker sure has bad luck. His good makeup seems to wind up in mediocre to
> bad movies. The only really good one I can think of is "Gorillas in the
> Mist", maybe "Men in Black". "American Werewolf was OK. Stan Winston has
> better luck.
>
> - - - -
> Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <MTotsky@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [pota] Baker vs. Baker
>
>
> >
> > In a message dated 10/25/01 11:42:53 PM, veetus@... writes:
> >
> > << In "Variety" they had an article about how "Phantom Menace" made
$45
> > million from DVDs it's first week and they were talking about the
upcoming
> > competition. For Nov. 20 they didn't say "Apes", they said "Grinch". But
> > according to worldwide "Apes" surpassed "Grinch". I thought "Grinch" was
a
> > terrible movie. Since "Grinch" is formidable competition, if "Apes"
whoops
> > it, maybe that'll be what pushes it over into sequelville. But "Grinch"
> will
> > be tough. It's perfect for Christmas. >>
> >
> > I think the "Grinch" was quite possibly the worst movie ever made. They
> > should have renamed it "How Ron Howard Raped the Memory of Ted Geisel."
> What
> > a travesty. I actually had high hopes for it considering that it had Jim
> > Carrey, Baker and even Howard (who I am hit and miss with), but man what
a
> > waste. Still I think it will do good on DVD, kids always push things
over
> the
> > top at Christmas and "Grinch" is definately more kid friendly than
"Apes."
> I
> > wonder what kind of extras "Grinch" will have on it? Not that I
> necessarily
> > watch it, but if they could get footage of Dr. Seuss turning in his
grave,
> > that would really be something.
> >
> > No matter what you think of POTA 2001, just be thankful that they didn't
> crap
> > all over the Apes memory as much as they did the Grinch.
> >
> > Matt (hoping they don't do a live action version of "The Lorax" or "To
> Think
> > That I Saw It on Mulberry Street")
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:51 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Dinosaurs extinct

I just checked www.worldwideboxoffice.com . POTA has overtaken "Jurassic Park 3". POTA has made $344 million to "Jurassic's $340. Where's Alex when you need him? He'd celebrate better.

Uhhhhh...true.  But don't start the sequel celebration yet.  Domestically JPIII is still about a million five above Apes beating it to the elusive $180 mil mark.  And well short of the $200 mil dom. sequel guarantee.  Expensive films like these need to do double their cost domestic to ensure the sequel.  If it comes to pass there's little doubt it will suffer from the same budget cuts that plagued the first series.


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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 5:28 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Exclusives

What's this about exclusives - tell me more Al!!!!

 

Michael

 

 

I'm getting the DVD recorder in 2 weeks. So I'm putting every known POTA Classic and Remake exclusive on DVD. Everything never used on an official POTA DVD is going on it. I'll have two separate collections, POTA Classic and POTA Remake. I also have Battle for the Planet of the Apes (uncut version) on Japanese Laser Disc that I'll be trasfering over to DVD as well as the POTA Cartoons.

 

Then soon after, very soon after, I'll be offering the exclusives on my site. But now, rather than VHS Tape, it will be on DVD. I can't wait to get started. In the end, it will not only be in better quality, but a hell of a lot easier for me to make mutiple copies to offer on the site, than making mutiple copies on VHS. You can burn a DVD, but you can't burn a VHS. (well you can if you had matches) :o)

 

But now it's a lot more possible for me to do, both work and time wise.

These will be a Collector's Item for those interested. Collector to Collector.

 

Best.

Al

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 5:28 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Don't bother to play it again, Sam

In a message dated 10/25/01 7:42:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

The DVD of Jacobs' "Play It Again, Sam" came out Tuesday . It's nothing
except expensive ($30) with no frills, not even the trailer. Paramount has
the worst DVD program around.

                                                                          -
- - - Jeff

Yes, I agree.  Except in the case of films like "The Godfather."

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 9:25 AM
Subject: [pota] TB & H B-C sittin' in a tree . . .


>
> I had read this in the tabloids but now I just heard it again on Stern,
so
> there must be something to it. Tim Burton and Lisa Marie have broken up,
and
> the reason is Helena Bonham-Carter. Though appearently it's not entirely
her
> fault. They've been on the skids for over a year, so when they got
together
> for the project . . . Well, lets face it as hot as Lisa Marie is, if you'd
> been with her for over ten years and H B-C came along what would you do?
> Especially if you look like Tim Burton. If he wasn't a successful movie
> director he wouldn't be getting either one of them! Let's face it, it he
was
> still painting vans, they would give him the time of day.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] TB & H B-C sittin' in a tree . . .


> Not to put her down or anything but this isn't the first relationship
she's
> broken up. She split up Kenneth Branagh marriage and he had kids. So
she'll
> probably dump Burton as well. But from what they said on Howard, they
both
> went on the show to promote Planet of the Apes and wouldn't come in
together.
> So this must have been an on set romance. I didn't notice anything amiss
> when they did the thing for Sci Fi.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Haristas@... wrote:
I thought the "Grinch" sucked, too.  Unfortunately, the part in POTA 2001 where we first are taken through Ape City reminded me of "Grinch."  Just awful.

 
-- Rory

I have to agree with you there Rory, 'The Grinch' was a dull, shallow mess with no heart and no likeable characters. It amazes me that it was so huge in the U.S box office wise, considering it 's a seasonal movie.Although we had the book, the 'Grinch' TV special was never a huge holiday favourite down here, when I was a kid it was always the Rankin Bass Xmas specials like Rudolph and Frosty that seemed to dominate the TV during the holidays.
Hmmm, 'Frosty the Movie' starring John Candy..no wait, starring Chris Farley..no........
Dang, there goes that idea!

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] TB & H B-C sittin' in a tree . . .


> They hadn't been together quite 10 years. I think they met in '93 or '94.
> Anyway, I take that rumor with a grain of salt.But if it's true I guess a
> sequel would mean Ari's back!
>
> Not if I had my way. I would only let Burton direct on the Planet. Since
> the next one will be on Earth I wouldn't have any of they other stars in
it.
> And I would get Gilliam to direct. And, since Thade be dade, I wouldn't
have
> him either. Maybe a cameo playing his own Grandson or something. Let the
> rest of the cast take a break on the next one. Then if they want to come
> back for the sequel after that. Burton can dcome back and bring whoever
he
> wants, as long as the script is good and he sticks to it. No artsy fartsy
> crap, just good story telling.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:41 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Dinosaurs extinct

In a message dated 10/26/01 1:21:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

  They could do with a budget cut. I heard from a source close to the production that the $100 m. figure is a sham and it was closer to $140 m. This source tells me that Fox is disappointed and no sequel has been greenlit yet ("X-Men 2" had been greenlit at this time last year). Less production value (or a director who can spend wisely), a better script and we're off.

                                                                             - - - Jeff

Boy, Oh Boy!!!   This is where I'm going to have to say, "I told you so!"   When you factor in the costs of promotion and such I'm not surprised the true figure is $140 Million, and sure Fox is disappointed, but what did they expect?   They should have made a better movie.  This was a film made by committee and it shows.  The original is actually a film by committee, too, but luckily back in '67 it all gelled.  In 2001 it fell flat.

Anyway, I still say to all of you -- there will be no sequel.  Too much damage has been done to the concept.  It has been made to look ridiculous -- AND AN "APES" MOVIE CANNOT AFFORD TO BE MADE TO LOOK RIDICULOUS!!!

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:44 PM

Subject: [pota] Cartoons

That sounds great Al.

 

I bought the cartoons years ago but I got sick of rewinding and changing tapes so I gave up.  The guy who recorded them had them all over the place and not in sequence so PLEASE Al, record them in order (because there actually is an order to them).

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz [prophecysite@...]
Sent: Friday, 26 October 2001 22:29
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Exclusives

What's this about exclusives - tell me more Al!!!!

 

Michael

 

 

I'm getting the DVD recorder in 2 weeks. So I'm putting every known POTA Classic and Remake exclusive on DVD. Everything never used on an official POTA DVD is going on it. I'll have two separate collections, POTA Classic and POTA Remake. I also have Battle for the Planet of the Apes (uncut version) on Japanese Laser Disc that I'll be trasfering over to DVD as well as the POTA Cartoons.

 

Then soon after, very soon after, I'll be offering the exclusives on my site. But now, rather than VHS Tape, it will be on DVD. I can't wait to get started. In the end, it will not only be in better quality, but a hell of a lot easier for me to make mutiple copies to offer on the site, than making mutiple copies on VHS. You can burn a DVD, but you can't burn a VHS. (well you can if you had matches) :o)

 

But now it's a lot more possible for me to do, both work and time wise.

These will be a Collector's Item for those interested. Collector to Collector.

 

Best.

Al

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Ken & Heather Taylor

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:11 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Baker vs. Baker

 

Haristas@... wrote:
I thought the "Grinch" sucked, too.  Unfortunately, the part in POTA 2001 where we first are taken through Ape City reminded me of "Grinch."  Just awful.

-- Rory

I have to agree with you there Rory, 'The Grinch' was a dull, shallow mess with no heart and no likeable characters. It amazes me that it was so huge in the U.S box office wise, considering it 's a seasonal movie.Although we had the book, the 'Grinch' TV special was never a huge holiday favourite down here, when I was a kid it was always the Rankin Bass Xmas specials like Rudolph and Frosty that seemed to dominate the TV during the holidays.
Hmmm, 'Frosty the Movie' starring John Candy..no wait, starring Chris Farley..no........
Dang, there goes that idea!

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:01 PM

Subject: [pota] Don't bother to play it again, Tim

Oh Rory you are only saying that because you are so precious about it!

 

I was actually thinking about this yesterday when I watched "Mummy Returns" for the first time on DVD.  I really did not like the first "Mummy" very much, and enthusiasts of the original would have been horrified!!!  Much like POTA 2001.

 

I don't really understand WHY, but I thought Mummy Returns was great (let me clarify, I mean great as in FX, a giggle or 2 and no chance of taking it seriously).  And that's where I'll come to my point.  Maybe Burton really thought POTA was cheesy and not to be taken seriously - maybe even thought it should be "campy".

 

I can't understand why anyone would even consider the possibility of no sequel.  This thing did all right at the box office and there will be more.  Fox must know it could have done better and they might even want it to make MORE at the box office this time and act accordingly.  I hope if they do, there is a lot of fan input.

 

I am serious when I say that if a sequel is given the green light this group needs to attempt to contact those involved in the project and volunteer input.  So long as this is done in a professional manner I cannot imagine too much difficilty (I mean look at all the stars in this group who have been mentioned in novels recently).

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2001 7:44
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Don't bother to play it again, Sam

In a message dated 10/26/01 1:24:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

 Well, even corporate dunderheads can see DVD is the best thing to happen to the movie business in a while. They are making a fortune, even in this economy.

Rory, you said you like "Planet of the Vampires"? Well, Burton is a HUGE fan of Mario Bava. Do you see any similarities to it and Burton's POTA?

                                                                 - - - - Jeff

Yes, both films are cheesy.   AND AN "APES" MOVIE CANNOT AFFORD TO BE MADE TO LOOK CHEESY!!!

-- Rory

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>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@...>
>Subject: Re: Exclusives
>I'm getting the DVD recorder in 2 weeks. So I'm putting every known POTA

>From: LordTZer0@...
>Subject: TB & H B-C sittin' in a tree . . .
> I had read this in the tabloids but now I just heard it again on Stern, so
>there must be something to it. Tim Burton and Lisa Marie have broken up,

>the reason is Helena Bonham-Carter. Though appearently it's not entirely her
>fault. They've been on the skids for over a year, so when they got together
>for the project . . . Well, lets face it as hot as Lisa Marie is, if you'd
>been with her for over ten years and H B-C came along what would you do?

>Especially if you look like Tim Burton.

>From: <veetus@...>
>Subject: Re: Re: Exclusives
>Everyone be nice to Alex!

>From: <veetus@...>
>Subject: Re: TB & H B-C sittin' in a tree . . .
>They hadn't been together quite 10 years. I think they met in '93 or '94.