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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 11:25 AM

Subject: [pota] Check out DVD Review - Planet of the Apes: Special Edition (2001)

Click here: DVD Review - Planet of the Apes: Special Edition (2001)


I didn't notice this before, but here's a early review of the DVD for you.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 2:33 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Exclusives

I can't wait to see this, Alex!  I was going to ask you about the clips on the site..especially the dinner scene one...love the look on Attar's face, and Thade's, as well, when Marky walks into the room...gets me laughing every time 'cause you know that s**t is going to hit the fan!

Lynne

Yeah, I'm pumped myself.

But nothing on the official DVD releases will be included in my DVDs.

Just rare POTA spots. I don't want to go to POTA prison. :o)

Best.

Al

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Lynne Miller

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 2:42 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Digest Number 758

That is just what it is!!!  Christmas ornament film making!!  I might have to borrow that one! LOL!!  Beautiful to look at but hollow inside.   I can't think of anyone else who does it this way...well, maybe.  Lucas seemed to catch it for Episode One.

Lynne

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>Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 04:39:27 EDT

>

>

> > He's really the only artsy-fartsy guy in that league. He's more like David

> > Lynch or John Waters, but with a lot more box office. I think he undersells

> > himself.

>

>He's an illustrator, not that there's anything wrong with that, but that's

>how he got his start -- at Disney of all places. Granted, film is a visual

>story telling medium, but now matter how good you are visually, the story

>can't be crap. And I don't think the stories were all crap. I really liked

>some of them. But, stunning visuals aside, it seemed to me he could have

>brought out a lot more in them. It always seemed like he could have given

>five more minutes to the story, but put all that effort into a visual for a

>five-second establishing shot. Makes me wonder how much input he had on the

>writing for Ed Wood and Sleepy Hollow. And speaking of hollow, sometimes he

>tends to slip into the Christmas ornament mode of film making. Beautiful to

>look at, but hollow inside.

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----- Original Message -----

From: veetus@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 3:42 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Check out DVD Review - Planet of the Apes: Special Edition (2001)

 Alright! A trailer for "Dr. Dolittle 2" . I always connected the two this summer because they're both Jacobs remakes.

                                                                   - - - - Jeff

 

 

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From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 11:25 AM

Subject: [pota] Check out DVD Review - Planet of the Apes: Special Edition (2001)

Click here: DVD Review - Planet of the Apes: Special Edition (2001)


I didn't notice this before, but here's a early review of the DVD for you.

-- Rory

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I bought the Nov. MAD mag w/ the POTA 2001 parody in it today. First time I've
bought that mag since about 1977!
I wonder if they originally planned an 'APE' cover before opting for the
patriotic cover they ran with.
Best,
KEN

LordTZer0@... wrote:

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You didn't buy it! You're in Australia. Quit yanking our chain. But I'm
sure someone in the U.S. will send you a copy.

- - - Jeff

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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Cartoons


> I bought the Nov. MAD mag w/ the POTA 2001 parody in it today. First time
I've
> bought that mag since about 1977!
> I wonder if they originally planned an 'APE' cover before opting for the
> patriotic cover they ran with.
> Best,
> KEN
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In a message dated 10/31/01 6:42:38 PM Central Standard Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:

<< And speaking of Snowflake, did anyone notice that Ari's father was an
albino?
Blue eyes and no pigment in his fingernails.

>>

Yeah, I think you told us about that before. I checked it out, too. Also,
there is the 'Ice in the drink' incident you reminded us of.

-Joe

In a message dated 11/1/01 2:42:00 PM Central Standard Time,
alan@... writes:

<< I have to say that Danny Elfman's music for PotA2001 is top notch, >>

Yes, I love the soundtrack to 2001! The percussion is very awesome in the
begining. That's why I got the VINYL! Great things come on vinyl, you know.

Well, I think that Apes68 is superior is character developement. The
character developement is spectacular. The make-up in 2001 I think is much
better, except for Ari. She looks like stink. The storyling -I THINK- plays
out nice in both of the movies.

Anyway, Conquest of the Planet of the Apes beats out both of them.

-Joe

Oh, that's right. I forgot. Anything that leaves the United states falls of the
edge of the world, including exported magazines. Actually we have Borders here
who air freight in a wide range of Yanky rags.
Best,
KEN

veetus@... wrote:

> You didn't buy it! You're in Australia. Quit yanking our chain. But I'm
> sure someone in the U.S. will send you a copy.
>
> - - - Jeff
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> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 6:04 PM
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> I've
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> > patriotic cover they ran with.
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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 11:25 AM

Subject: [pota] Check out DVD Review - Planet of the Apes: Special Edition (2001)

Click here: DVD Review - Planet of the Apes: Special Edition (2001)


I didn't notice this before, but here's a early review of the DVD for you.

-- Rory

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Uuum, there was no attachment. JoAndra

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.htmlIn a message dated 11/1/01 3:42:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, alan@... writes:

This is not the first and won't be the last argument like this. Just the
other day, I was thinking of the remake and comparing it to the classic that
went before.

I have to say that Danny Elfman's music for PotA2001 is top notch, but in
the areas of make-up, coherent storyline, high quality performances and
overall character development, I would have to say the classic Time of the
Apes wins hands down.

Alan

This is obviously a joke.  POTA 2001 may not be that good, but it's better than Time of the Apes.

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 11/1/01 7:34:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

You can tell DVD is going mainstream. Trailers for other movies are starting to appear, and more pan and scan versions are coming out. Soon it'll be just like VHS. They'll decide Joe Sixpack doesn't like widescreen and those'll be few and far between.

                                                                             - - - - Jeff



Well, when they came out with the Special Edition of "Willy Wonka" and it was only in Pan & Scan, there was this incredible internet protest and now Warners is going back and doing a letterboxed version.  But, I agree it does look like DVD is becoming like VHS.  I had to rent the Pan & Scan "Cats and Dogs," but I really didn't mind.  (I didn't think the movie was that great, BTW.)

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 11/1/01 11:38:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Rory, I picked up "The Studio" at a used book store. I like how in the Cast of Characters Natalie Trundy is listed as "Arthur Jacobs' friend". Arthur is listed as "Dr. Dolittle producer" so I guess that was still when they thought it would be a big hit (no mention of that trifle "Planet of the Apes").                              - - - Jeff

The writer mentions at the end how much of a hit PLANET was, and that thankfully for Jacobs the profits on PLANET weren't used to make up for loses on DOLITTLE (business!).

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Hi, anyone have seen the parody from Mad Magazine ?
I think the art is great but i prefer artist Angelo Torres, with
his more realistic style of drawing.
They lost great oportunities to get laugh in the story, but however
this is good.
Sorry my poor english !

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Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:

> This is obviously a joke. POTA 2001 may not be that good, but it's better
> than Time of the Apes.

Thank you - from the replies I received I was beginning to wonder if anyone
had noticed.

Guess I can wave goodbye to a career as a comedy writer.

Alan

Nothing can top the classic. Notice nostalgic scenes in the 2001 version?
JoAndra

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Alan Maxwell wrote:
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Alan

Unless they're planning a revival of "On the Buses" or are you just channelling Benny Hill?  ;-)

 
 
 
 
 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 7:45 AM

Subject: [pota] Star Wars Episode II Teaser is out!

Ep II Teaser Trailer on Monsters, Inc.
October 29, 2001

Pixar Animation Studios and Walt Disney Studios today announced that Lucasfilm Ltd. has created an exclusive teaser trailer for Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones that will only appear at the head of the new animated Disney/Pixar film Monsters, Inc. The film premieres on November 2nd in theaters across the United States and Canada.

 

 

I only hope that FoX is smart enough to include it in the POTA DVD.

Best.

Al

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 7:40 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Star Wars Episode II Teaser is out!

Sorry, Alex, if the trailer is just coming out now there probably wasn't time to put it on the DVD. I'm interested to see it now that I have the "Episode One" DVD. What a coincidence that it's coming out so soon after the DVD. Like a well-oiled machine. Almost as if they planned it ...Wait a minute! D'oh!!                     - - - Jeff

 

 

Yeah, I hear ya.

Too little, too late for DVD. It would have been nice though.

If the the VHS version comes out later, then there may be a chance that FoX will put the SW II Teaser on the VHS version of POTA 2001.

 

Now that would really be a kick in the head! :o)

 

Best.

Al

 

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 7:40 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Star Wars Episode II Teaser is out!

Sorry, Alex, if the trailer is just coming out now there probably wasn't time to put it on the DVD. I'm interested to see it now that I have the "Episode One" DVD. What a coincidence that it's coming out so soon after the DVD. Like a well-oiled machine. Almost as if they planned it ...Wait a minute! D'oh!!                     - - - Jeff

 

 

Yeah, I hear ya.

Too little, too late for DVD. It would have been nice though.

If the the VHS version comes out later, then there may be a chance that FoX will put the SW II Teaser on the VHS version of POTA 2001.

 

Now that would really be a kick in the head! :o)

 

Best.

Al

 

 

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In a message dated 11/2/01 5:56:09 AM Central Standard Time, Haristas@...
writes:

<< I had to rent the Pan & Scan "Cats and
Dogs," but I really didn't mind. (I didn't think the movie was that great,
BTW.)

>>

Oh well. I thought it was pretty funny, with the parachuting siamese ninja
cats and all.

-Joe

.html I doubt very much that Lucasfilm will allow fox to use The 'Ep2' teaser to help sell non-Lucas products by putting the trailer on either VHS or DVD products. Playing the trailer in a cinema is different to letting people buy it as part of a product.
Best,
KEN

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

Sorry, Alex, if the trailer is just coming out now there probably wasn't time to put it on the DVD. I'm interested to see it now that I have the "Episode One" DVD. What a coincidence that it's coming out so soon after the DVD. Like a well-oiled machine. Almost as if they planned it ...Wait a minute! D'oh!!                     - - - Jeff  Yeah, I hear ya.Too little, too late for DVD. It would have been nice though.If the the VHS version comes out later, then there may be a chance that FoX will put the SW II Teaser on the VHS version of POTA 2001. Now that would really be a kick in the head! :o) Best.Al  

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I thought it was clever technically but a little mean spirited for a kiddie
flick.
But that's just me.
Best,
KEN

CheeseGOTAS@... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/2/01 5:56:09 AM Central Standard Time, Haristas@...
> writes:
>
> << I had to rent the Pan & Scan "Cats and
> Dogs," but I really didn't mind. (I didn't think the movie was that great,
> BTW.)
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>
> Oh well. I thought it was pretty funny, with the parachuting siamese ninja
> cats and all.
>
> -Joe
>
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.htmlIn a message dated 11/2/01 10:46:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

 I got the latest newsletter from the Motion Picture Academy today. On Nov. 16 they will premiere "a newly restored 70 mm print with 6 - track stereo sound" of Franklin Schaffner's "Patton". That flick gave him his first large measure of respect (many Oscars) after a distinguished career in the Golden Age of Live TV, a few features and that cute children's film "Planet of the Apes". He went on to do other stuff, including "The Boys From Brazil", which I hear is slated to be remade (he just rolled over in his grave over POTA 2001 and now he has turn over again). Anyway, the screening will be hosted by Karl Malden. All for $5. Only in California!

Sounds like a new DVD to me. Last month the Academy screen ed a restored print of Fox's "All That Jazz" and I know they are priming a big DVD release for that. Aren't Fox DVDs wonderful? I'm glad I don't already have a "Patton" DVD, aren't you, Rory?

                                                                          - - - - Jeff




You wise-ass!!    Actually, NO, I didn't bother buying the "Patton" Special Edition DVD.  Why?  Because I bought "Patton" TWICE on Laserdisc, and they weren't cheap and one of the laserdiscs includes 5.1 Dolby Digital sound plus the Frank Schaffner tribute documentary where Jerry Goldsmith talks about how Schaffner told him not to use so many piccolos in the PLANET main title cue, and how glad Goldsmith was that he got pulled from scoring BENEATH to go do "Patton."  Good stuff.  That documentary is included with the DVD.  You might want to rent it, Jeffery!  BTW, it was PLANET that put Schaffner on the map and got him "Patton."

Jeffery, why don't you try to find out when Fox will do a Five-Star DVD Special Edition of PLANET, and when the hell is "Journey To The Center of the Earth" coming out on DVD?

Oh boy!!  Less than twenty days now to the APES DVDs!!!  Is everybody excited?

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"Ken & Heather Taylor" <kentaylor@...> wrote:

> Unless they're planning a revival of "On the Buses" or are you just

channelling

> Benny Hill? ;-)

Benny Hill meets Planet of the Apes... There's a sequel idea I'd like to see
happen.

Alan

"Planet of the Apes" was mean-spirited too and I saw that when I was a
kid. - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken & Heather Taylor" <kentaylor@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Check out DVD Review - Planet of the Apes: Special
Edition (2001)


> I thought it was clever technically but a little mean spirited for a
kiddie
> flick.
> But that's just me.
> Best,
> KEN
>
> CheeseGOTAS@... wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 11/2/01 5:56:09 AM Central Standard Time,
Haristas@...
> > writes:
> >
> > << I had to rent the Pan & Scan "Cats and
> > Dogs," but I really didn't mind. (I didn't think the movie was that
great,
> > BTW.)
> > >>
> >
> > Oh well. I thought it was pretty funny, with the parachuting siamese
ninja
> > cats and all.
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >

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From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 4:00 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Patton - ted

In a message dated 11/2/01 10:46:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

 I got the latest newsletter from the Motion Picture Academy today. On Nov. 16 they will premiere "a newly restored 70 mm print with 6 - track stereo sound" of Franklin Schaffner's "Patton". That flick gave him his first large measure of respect (many Oscars) after a distinguished career in the Golden Age of Live TV, a few features and that cute children's film "Planet of the Apes". He went on to do other stuff, including "The Boys From Brazil", which I hear is slated to be remade (he just rolled over in his grave over POTA 2001 and now he has turn over again). Anyway, the screening will be hosted by Karl Malden. All for $5. Only in California!

Sounds like a new DVD to me. Last month the Academy screen ed a restored print of Fox's "All That Jazz" and I know they are priming a big DVD release for that. Aren't Fox DVDs wonderful? I'm glad I don't already have a "Patton" DVD, aren't you, Rory?

                                                                          - - - - Jeff

You wise-ass!!    Actually, NO, I didn't bother buying the "Patton" Special Edition DVD.  Why?  Because I bought "Patton" TWICE on Laserdisc, and they weren't cheap and one of the laserdiscs includes 5.1 Dolby Digital sound plus the Frank Schaffner tribute documentary where Jerry Goldsmith talks about how Schaffner told him not to use so many piccolos in the PLANET main title cue, and how glad Goldsmith was that he got pulled from scoring BENEATH to go do "Patton."  Good stuff.  That documentary is included with the DVD.  You might want to rent it, Jeffery!  BTW, it was PLANET that put Schaffner on the map and got him "Patton."

Jeffery, why don't you try to find out when Fox will do a Five-Star DVD Special Edition of PLANET, and when the hell is "Journey To The Center of the Earth" coming out on DVD?

Oh boy!!  Less than twenty days now to the APES DVDs!!!  Is everybody excited?

-- Rory
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Had a spare 48 minutes or so yesterday and I was going through some old VHS
tapes that I'd taped of TV. I came across 'Escape From Tomorrow' and got
caught up watching it again. This time I made the following observations:

Near the beginning when the chimp kid goes back to the village to tell his
father the prefect what he'd seen. They hop on horses to check it out. There
is a long shot of the posse riding towards the crash site, but it's actually a
shot of Urko's troop as his white horse clearly visible. When they arrive,
there is no white horse to be seen. Obviously they used stock footage of apes
on horseback.

When Virdon and Burke are looking at the Farrow's 'old story book' they see a
picture of a very futuristic ( Logan's Run-esque ) New York dated 2305. So
according to this timeline, NYC was still in tact by this time. Has this been
covered before? Virdon also exclaims that the book was printed 500 years after
they left Earth. That means they left earth in 1805. It appears that 2000
years of jet lag messes with your logic.

In the scene when Zaius says goodnight to his house servant and says he's
going to read ( or something like that) he is wearing Knee high boots. He goes
to his office door and enters. When he moves inside, he is wearing regular,
Orang ape feet shoes. This is when Virdon and Burke take him hostage with the
grenade in order to rescue Galen. In the very next scene Zaius has the knee
high boots on again.

Anyone else got bloopers from the TV show? I guess the 'eagle eyes' will be
out on Nov. 20.
Best,
KEN

And look how you turned out ;-)

veetus@... wrote:

> "Planet of the Apes" was mean-spirited too and I saw that when I was a
> kid. - - - Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken & Heather Taylor" <kentaylor@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [pota] Check out DVD Review - Planet of the Apes: Special
> Edition (2001)
>
> > I thought it was clever technically but a little mean spirited for a
> kiddie
> > flick.
> > But that's just me.
> > Best,
> > KEN
> >
> > CheeseGOTAS@... wrote:
> >
> > > In a message dated 11/2/01 5:56:09 AM Central Standard Time,
> Haristas@...
> > > writes:
> > >
> > > << I had to rent the Pan & Scan "Cats and
> > > Dogs," but I really didn't mind. (I didn't think the movie was that
> great,
> > > BTW.)
> > > >>
> > >
> > > Oh well. I thought it was pretty funny, with the parachuting siamese
> ninja
> > > cats and all.
> > >
> > > -Joe
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.htmlIn a message dated 11/3/01 3:33:56 PM Central Standard Time, kentaylor@... writes:

When Virdon and Burke are looking at the Farrow's 'old story book' they see a
picture of  a very futuristic ( Logan's Run-esque ) New York dated 2305. So
according to this timeline, NYC was still in tact by this time. Has this been
covered before? Virdon also exclaims that the book was printed 500 years after
they left Earth. That means they left earth in 1805. It appears that 2000
years of jet lag messes with your logic.

You were right on your other "bloopers", but not this one...The picture in question is actually dated 2503, NOT 2305 as you stated above...So, yeah, it was taken "500" years after they left (500 years being an approximate time, not a specific number.)<.html

.html Whoops, my mistake. Even so, it still doesn't fit with the timelines established in the movies.
Best,
KEN

mlccougar@... wrote:

In a message dated 11/3/01 3:33:56 PM Central Standard Time, kentaylor@... writes:
 
 

When Virdon and Burke are looking at the Farrow's 'old story book' they see a
picture of  a very futuristic ( Logan's Run-esque ) New York dated 2305. So
according to this timeline, NYC was still in tact by this time. Has this been
covered before? Virdon also exclaims that the book was printed 500 years after
they left Earth. That means they left earth in 1805. It appears that 2000
years of jet lag messes with your logic.

You were right on your other "bloopers", but not this one...The picture in question is actually dated 2503, NOT 2305 as you stated above...So, yeah, it was taken "500" years after they left (500 years being an approximate time, not a specific number.)
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.htmlIn a message dated 11/3/01 3:48:54 PM Central Standard Time, kentaylor@... writes:

Whoops, my mistake. Even so, it still doesn't fit with the timelines established in the movies.
Best,
KEN

Well, actually it does in my timeline. I had my timeline here in the postings a few months ago, and as a matter of fact, I went thru the archives and dug it up to help Rory awhile back when he was saying that there are indeed 2 seperate Apes timelines. Look under the subject The Original Planet of the Apes- A Little Help For Rory (I believe that's what it was called,) it should be in there somewhere...Now I'm not saying my timeline is chisled in stone by any means, but it shows how the tv series "can" be worked into the timeline established in the movies.



mlccougar@... wrote:

In a message dated 11/3/01 3:33:56 PM Central Standard Time, kentaylor@... writes:

 
 

When Virdon and Burke are looking at the Farrow's 'old story book' they see a

picture of  a very futuristic ( Logan's Run-esque ) New York dated 2305. So
according to this timeline, NYC was still in tact by this time. Has this been
covered before? Virdon also exclaims that the book was printed 500 years after
they left Earth. That means they left earth in 1805. It appears that 2000
years of jet lag messes with your logic.

You were right on your other "bloopers", but not this one...The picture in question is actually dated 2503, NOT 2305 as you stated above...So, yeah, it was taken "500" years after they left (500 years being an approximate time, not a specific number.)


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Monsters Inc Teaser Trailer Problems
Fri, Nov 02, 01 09:29:15 PM EDT

We've been receiving many irate emails from fans who have gone to their local theaters to see Monsters Inc., only to find that the teaser trailer wasn't shown. There has been no official word on why this is the case, but as soon as we learn more, we'll let you know. As one member of the TFN Staff put it, "It would be a good idea to call the theater and check if the trailer is playing".

 

 

hehehe....

Now that's just sad.

Best to wait until it hits the web.

 

Best.

Al

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<mlccougar@...> wrote:

> You were right on your other "bloopers", but not this one...The picture in
> question is actually dated 2503, NOT 2305 as you stated above...

If I remember correctly, Pete even exclaims "Twenty-five oh-three?!?" or
something like that. Ken's definitely right about it not fitting into movie
chronology though (or not easily at least).

Alan

.htmlIn a message dated 11/3/01 4:34:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, kentaylor@... writes:

When Virdon and Burke are looking at the Farrow's 'old story book' they see a
picture of  a very futuristic ( Logan's Run-esque ) New York dated 2305. So
according to this timeline, NYC was still in tact by this time. Has this been
covered before? Virdon also exclaims that the book was printed 500 years after
they left Earth. That means they left earth in 1805. It appears that 2000
years of jet lag messes with your logic.

That's why it's best to look at the TV series as an entity BASED on the movie series.  Of course, fans like Matt don't agree with this at all, but then to paraphrase Brent in BENEATH, "That's their insanity."

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 11/3/01 4:58:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

Whoops, my mistake. Even so, it still doesn't fit with the timelines established in the movies.
Best,
KEN

Well, actually it does in my timeline. I had my timeline here in the postings a few months ago, and as a matter of fact, I went thru the archives and dug it up to help Rory awhile back when he was saying that there are indeed 2 seperate Apes timelines. Look under the subject The Original Planet of the Apes- A Little Help For Rory (I believe that's what it was called,) it should be in there somewhere...Now I'm not saying my timeline is chisled in stone by any means, but it shows how the tv series "can" be worked into the timeline established in the movies.


Oh God, Help ME!!!!

You ask me to help you?!!!   <.html

.htmlIn a message dated 11/3/01 4:15:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

"The Studio" is COOL! It came out in, what, 1968? And it quotes the Doors' "Twentieth Century Fox". Of course over 30 years later we don't even know who the Doors are (does Joe Russo know about this book)? I like where Warners wanted to borrow the cornfield and are told "The apes tromped the s*** out of it"

f) - - - Jeff



You sound like you've never read "The Studio" before, Jeff.  I found that book in a library back in 1974.  I believe you were still pooping your pants in those days.  In fact, I believe you still are pooping your pants.

F Jeff?   Okay, F Jeff!!!

-- Rory<.html

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----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 1:56 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] APE-TV

In a message dated 11/3/01 3:48:54 PM Central Standard Time, kentaylor@... writes:

Whoops, my mistake. Even so, it still doesn't fit with the timelines established in the movies.
Best,
KEN

Well, actually it does in my timeline. I had my timeline here in the postings a few months ago, and as a matter of fact, I went thru the archives and dug it up to help Rory awhile back when he was saying that there are indeed 2 seperate Apes timelines. Look under the subject The Original Planet of the Apes- A Little Help For Rory (I believe that's what it was called,) it should be in there somewhere...Now I'm not saying my timeline is chisled in stone by any means, but it shows how the tv series "can" be worked into the timeline established in the movies.



mlccougar@... wrote:

In a message dated 11/3/01 3:33:56 PM Central Standard Time, kentaylor@... writes:

 
 

When Virdon and Burke are looking at the Farrow's 'old story book' they see a

picture of  a very futuristic ( Logan's Run-esque ) New York dated 2305. So
according to this timeline, NYC was still in tact by this time. Has this been
covered before? Virdon also exclaims that the book was printed 500 years after
they left Earth. That means they left earth in 1805. It appears that 2000
years of jet lag messes with your logic.

You were right on your other "bloopers", but not this one...The picture in question is actually dated 2503, NOT 2305 as you stated above...So, yeah, it was taken "500" years after they left (500 years being an approximate time, not a specific number.)




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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 4:14 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Patton - ted

In a message dated 11/3/01 4:15:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

"The Studio" is COOL! It came out in, what, 1968? And it quotes the Doors' "Twentieth Century Fox". Of course over 30 years later we don't even know who the Doors are (does Joe Russo know about this book)? I like where Warners wanted to borrow the cornfield and are told "The apes tromped the s*** out of it"

f) - - - Jeff

You sound like you've never read "The Studio" before, Jeff.  I found that book in a library back in 1974.  I believe you were still pooping your pants in those days.  In fact, I believe you still are pooping your pants.

F Jeff?   Okay, F Jeff!!!

-- Rory

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 4:14 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Patton - ted

In a message dated 11/3/01 4:15:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

"The Studio" is COOL! It came out in, what, 1968? And it quotes the Doors' "Twentieth Century Fox". Of course over 30 years later we don't even know who the Doors are (does Joe Russo know about this book)? I like where Warners wanted to borrow the cornfield and are told "The apes tromped the s*** out of it"

f) - - - Jeff

You sound like you've never read "The Studio" before, Jeff.  I found that book in a library back in 1974.  I believe you were still pooping your pants in those days.  In fact, I believe you still are pooping your pants.

F Jeff?   Okay, F Jeff!!!

-- Rory

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

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----- Original Message -----

From: Ken & Heather Taylor

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 1:56 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] APE-TV

Whoops, my mistake. Even so, it still doesn't fit with the timelines established in the movies.
Best,
KEN

mlccougar@... wrote:

In a message dated 11/3/01 3:33:56 PM Central Standard Time, kentaylor@... writes:
 
 

When Virdon and Burke are looking at the Farrow's 'old story book' they see a
picture of  a very futuristic ( Logan's Run-esque ) New York dated 2305. So
according to this timeline, NYC was still in tact by this time. Has this been
covered before? Virdon also exclaims that the book was printed 500 years after
they left Earth. That means they left earth in 1805. It appears that 2000
years of jet lag messes with your logic.

You were right on your other "bloopers", but not this one...The picture in question is actually dated 2503, NOT 2305 as you stated above...So, yeah, it was taken "500" years after they left (500 years being an approximate time, not a specific number.)
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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In a message dated 11/4/01 12:08:44 AM Central Standard Time,
veetus@... writes:

<< Check out this French comic book on e-bay. Mr. Greene is trying to snag
it. I hope this link works >>

Sorry, it didn't work. I got the 'HTTP Error 403' error.

-Joe

.htmlIn a message dated 11/3/01 8:20:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

 Never read it before. But I'd already read about the waste on "Dr. Dolittle" in Medved's book "The Hollywood Hall of Shame". I think Natalie's in a little denial about how well that movie did. It was a special movie to them.

                                                                       - - - - Jeff



Michael Medved. . . . can't stand that right-winger.  

I'll bet Dr. Dolittle (business) eventually made it's money back, but that was probably just last week, but, hey, it was no "Cleopatra."<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 11/3/01 8:25:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

The new "Entertainment Weekly" says that Burton's people confirmed that he and Lisa Marie are splitsville and he's taken up with Helena Bonham Carter. I guess that means Ari is a shoo-in for the sequel, my favorite character. They noted that Carter did the same thing with Kenneth branaugh on "Frankenstein" ( I guess she has a thing for guys who direct her in remakes of classic sci-fi movies). Anyway, I know he and Lisa had a long relationship and parting is sad.

                                                                    - - - - Jeff



Who knows what reality is in Hollyweird, and unless Fox is going to pay Bonham-Carter more money next time, well. . . .

Anyway, I just got the latest Cinescape (I have to go look for that MAD mag tomorrow, especially after Alex gave it such a rave review -- sounds like I could have written it.). . . . As for an APES 2 this is what they've written, "INSIDE BUZZ: Fox wanted to relaunch the old franchise and did so with great success.  A sequel is going to happen, with or without Burton, Wahlberg or Roth."  (This issue was 'put to bed' in September, a week after 9-11.)

Later in the issue they do say the ending made a monkey of us all.

There's also a short piece on the late John Chambers.

-- Rory<.html

.html I felt that in 'The Studio' Natalie Trundy was portrayed as a bit of a 'hanger-on' and not to mention, a kleptomaniac. I refer to her desire to lift a silver platter ( or something like that) from a restaurant. I can't recall the exact details, it's been a while since I've read it.
Best,
KEN

Haristas@... wrote:

In a message dated 11/3/01 8:20:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
 
 

 Never read it before. But I'd already read about the waste on "Dr. Dolittle" in Medved's book "The Hollywood Hall of Shame". I think Natalie's in a little denial about how well that movie did. It was a special movie to them.

                                                                       - - - - Jeff
 

Michael Medved. . . . can't stand that right-winger.

I'll bet Dr. Dolittle (business) eventually made it's money back, but that was probably just last week, but, hey, it was no "Cleopatra."

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

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.html I think you DID write that MAD POTA parody Rory, it features jabs at most of the plot holes and inconsistencies raised by this group on various occasions. There are also many nods and references to the original films.
Best,
KEN

Haristas@... wrote:

In a message dated 11/3/01 8:25:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
 
 

The new "Entertainment Weekly" says that Burton's people confirmed that he and Lisa Marie are splitsville and he's taken up with Helena Bonham Carter. I guess that means Ari is a shoo-in for the sequel, my favorite character. They noted that Carter did the same thing with Kenneth branaugh on "Frankenstein" ( I guess she has a thing for guys who direct her in remakes of classic sci-fi movies). Anyway, I know he and Lisa had a long relationship and parting is sad.

                                                                    - - - - Jeff
 

Who knows what reality is in Hollyweird, and unless Fox is going to pay Bonham-Carter more money next time, well. . . .

Anyway, I just got the latest Cinescape (I have to go look for that MAD mag tomorrow, especially after Alex gave it such a rave review -- sounds like I could have written it.). . . . As for an APES 2 this is what they've written, "INSIDE BUZZ: Fox wanted to relaunch the old franchise and did so with great success.  A sequel is going to happen, with or without Burton, Wahlberg or Roth."  (This issue was 'put to bed' in September, a week after 9-11.)

Later in the issue they do say the ending made a monkey of us all.

There's also a short piece on the late John Chambers.

-- Rory

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

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Just when you thought your POTA autograph collection was complete.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1481825330

.htmlIn a message dated 11/4/01 1:55:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, kentaylor@... writes:

Just when you thought your POTA autograph collection was complete.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1481825330

Who the hell is Eileen Deitz?  And is this her claim to fame?!!!<.html

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0296148

Check that link out. Evidently, someone thought it might be fun to have Ape
Porn.

-Joe

.html Dude, she has her own 'official' website! I'm wondering when this Time machine guy is going to start an 'official' website for the dog in 'Escape to tomorrow' or the chick who did Nova's voice in the cartoon series. It's only a matter of time.
Best,
KEN

Haristas@... wrote:

In a message dated 11/4/01 1:55:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, kentaylor@... writes:
 
 

Just when you thought your POTA autograph collection was complete.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1481825330

Who the hell is Eileen Deitz?  And is this her claim to fame?!!!

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

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Dr. Cornholeous..that's a riot!! I'm still laughing.

CheeseGOTAS@... wrote:

> http://us.imdb.com/Title?0296148
>
> Check that link out. Evidently, someone thought it might be fun to have Ape
> Porn.
>
> -Joe
>
>
>
>
>

.htmlIn a message dated 11/4/01 2:06:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, CheeseGOTAS@... writes:

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0296148

Check that link out.  Evidently, someone thought it might be fun to have Ape
Porn.

-Joe

"Playmate of the Apes"!!!  'Coming' in 2002!  This sounds like a must-have.  I'm sure Alex will be able to supply us with some bootlegs.  I'll bet it's really Jeff Krueger as 'Dr. Cornholeous.'

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 11/4/01 2:09:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, kentaylor@... writes:

Dude, she has her own 'official' website! I'm wondering when this Time machine guy is going to start an 'official' website for the dog in 'Escape to tomorrow' or the chick who did Nova's voice in the cartoon series. It's only a matter of time.
Best,
KEN

Or what about the guy was swept the stage after the sets were torn down?

-- Rory Cornholeous Jr.<.html

In a message dated 11/4/01 1:17:10 AM Central Standard Time, Haristas@...
writes:

<< Or what about the guy was swept the stage after the sets were torn down?

-- Rory Cornholeous Jr. >>

I have his autograph. I'm holding onto it in hopes that I can retire on it.

Oh, and nice name.

-Joe

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 10:35 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] A match made on the POTA

In a message dated 11/3/01 8:25:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

The new "Entertainment Weekly" says that Burton's people confirmed that he and Lisa Marie are splitsville and he's taken up with Helena Bonham Carter. I guess that means Ari is a shoo-in for the sequel, my favorite character. They noted that Carter did the same thing with Kenneth branaugh on "Frankenstein" ( I guess she has a thing for guys who direct her in remakes of classic sci-fi movies). Anyway, I know he and Lisa had a long relationship and parting is sad.

                                                                    - - - - Jeff

Who knows what reality is in Hollyweird, and unless Fox is going to pay Bonham-Carter more money next time, well. . . .

Anyway, I just got the latest Cinescape (I have to go look for that MAD mag tomorrow, especially after Alex gave it such a rave review -- sounds like I could have written it.). . . . As for an APES 2 this is what they've written, "INSIDE BUZZ: Fox wanted to relaunch the old franchise and did so with great success.  A sequel is going to happen, with or without Burton, Wahlberg or Roth."  (This issue was 'put to bed' in September, a week after 9-11.)

Later in the issue they do say the ending made a monkey of us all.

There's also a short piece on the late John Chambers.

-- Rory

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

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----- Original Message -----

From: Ken & Heather Taylor

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 10:45 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Patton - ted

I felt that in 'The Studio' Natalie Trundy was portrayed as a bit of a 'hanger-on' and not to mention, a kleptomaniac. I refer to her desire to lift a silver platter ( or something like that) from a restaurant. I can't recall the exact details, it's been a while since I've read it.
Best,
KEN

Haristas@... wrote:

In a message dated 11/3/01 8:20:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
 
 

 Never read it before. But I'd already read about the waste on "Dr. Dolittle" in Medved's book "The Hollywood Hall of Shame". I think Natalie's in a little denial about how well that movie did. It was a special movie to them.

                                                                       - - - - Jeff
 

Michael Medved. . . . can't stand that right-winger.

I'll bet Dr. Dolittle (business) eventually made it's money back, but that was probably just last week, but, hey, it was no "Cleopatra."

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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Well, whoever Eileen Dietz is, she signed over Bobby Porter.

- -
- Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken & Heather Taylor" <kentaylor@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 11:03 PM
Subject: [pota] THE MILKING OF THE PLANET THAT WENT APE..INDEED


> Just when you thought your POTA autograph collection was complete.....
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1481825330
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 11:13 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] This is pretty disturbing... eh.

In a message dated 11/4/01 2:06:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, CheeseGOTAS@... writes:

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0296148

Check that link out.  Evidently, someone thought it might be fun to have Ape
Porn.

-Joe

"Playmate of the Apes"!!!  'Coming' in 2002!  This sounds like a must-have.  I'm sure Alex will be able to supply us with some bootlegs.  I'll bet it's really Jeff Krueger as 'Dr. Cornholeous.'

-- Rory

<.html

Never read it before. But I'd already read about the waste on "Dr. Dolittle" in Medved's book "The Hollywood Hall of Shame". I think Natalie's in a little denial about how well that movie did. It was a special movie to them.

Hey, I liked that movie.  Liked it then...liked it now.  You tell 'em Natalie!
It maybe no POTA, but I'd rather watch it than the remake anyday!

.htmlIn a message dated 11/4/2001 1:09:05 AM Central Standard Time, kentaylor@... writes:

Who the hell is Eileen Deitz?  And is this her claim to fame?!!!

She was Jillia in the episode "The Good Seeds", and I'm going to assume it "is" her claim to fame......<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 11/4/2001 2:04:40 AM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Well, whoever Eileen Dietz is, she signed over Bobby Porter.

Yeah, that was a bad pic to use. I mean there has to be better pics, some that might actually show her character in the episode.<.html

I like Ari as a character, but I don't know how much I like H B-C as a
person. I guess that's the difference between her and Kim Hunter. I have to
quote some review on the new flick. "Helena Bonham-Carter does a great job
with the character Ari, but she's just a patch on Kim Hunter.

Check that link out.  Evidently, someone thought it might be fun to have Ape
Porn.

Ahhh, I thought of that idea a million billion years ago.
Only it was called Planet of the Rapes
Someone actually did something called Planet of the Gapes
Didn't see it.

In a message dated 11/4/2001 1:14:54 AM Central America Standard Tim, Haristas@... writes:

I'll bet it's really Jeff Krueger as 'Dr. Cornholeous.'

Says here She's a girl!  Doesn't sound like Jeff.
No offence, Jeff.  I'm sure you'd have made a fetching female.

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----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 3:08 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] This is pretty disturbing... eh.

In a message dated 11/4/2001 1:14:54 AM Central America Standard Tim, Haristas@... writes:

I'll bet it's really Jeff Krueger as 'Dr. Cornholeous.'

Says here She's a girl!  Doesn't sound like Jeff.
No offence, Jeff.  I'm sure you'd have made a fetching female.

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

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That's how I tasted my first caviar, she brought me some from a "Vanity Fair " party

Did she nick the spoons?

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-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
Sent: Sunday, 4 November 2001 22:13
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] This is pretty disturbing... eh.

 A" fetching" female as in "a dog"?

 

                                                          - - - Cornholeus

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 3:08 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] This is pretty disturbing... eh.

In a message dated 11/4/2001 1:14:54 AM Central America Standard Tim, Haristas@... writes:

I'll bet it's really Jeff Krueger as 'Dr. Cornholeous.'

Says here She's a girl!  Doesn't sound like Jeff.
No offence, Jeff.  I'm sure you'd have made a fetching female.

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Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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.htmlIn a message dated 11/4/01 2:56:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

 I don't suppose they said where they came by that information. But if they're willing to do it with or without Burton...ah, give him another shot.                     

Did Altman say what he thought of it?

                                                                             - - - Jeff



No, Altman has been strangely silent, but I'll bet I know what he thinks.

-- Rory<.html

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.htmlHope this link works:

Slacker's Sci-Fi Source

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Hey, i publish in the photos section the Mad Magazine parody about
the new movie. I made my best to scan the magazine. Enjoy it !

Yeah, b/c in the book and script it tells that there was Gorillas in
cages. It also said it was like a zoo in there so maybe there were
horses and birds, etc....

--- In pota@y..., "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@h...> wrote:
> Could even be deleted scenes - the start was so quick they must
have snipped
> SOMETHING.
>
> Then again, the sequel might suggest that the horses and the
gorillas were
> already there or something - who knows?
>
> Michael
>
>
> I'm really looking foward to the 5 extended scenes on the DVD.
> I can't wait to see what they contain, most likely the 5021 year
will appear when Leo encounters the Oberon. At least then my domain
name will make a lot more sence to those who vist. :o)
>
> Best.
> Al

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LordTZer0@... wrote:
Sorry....I just got back from seeing The Damned and had to get that out of my system.

The Damned are still together? Who was the opening act? Thomas Dolby or Howard Jones?

<.html

This could be more entertaining than a sequel to POTA 2k....

http://www.seductioncinema.com/2001/playmate_of_apes/large_playmate_of_apes.jpg

I'm sure it'll make 'Time of the Apes' look like POTA 2k by comparison.
Best,
KEN
P.S..and no, I don't spend all day surfing for internet porn. That's my story
and I'm sticking to it.

Hopefully Alex will provide us with outtakes and stuff we can't get on the
DVD...oh, uh, I mean I wouldn't buy that trash. Don't insult our
intelligence, Ken! Michael Medved wouldn't approve.

-
- - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken & Heather Taylor" <kentaylor@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 5:58 PM
Subject: [pota] PLAYMATE OF THE APES


> This could be more entertaining than a sequel to POTA 2k....
>
>
http://www.seductioncinema.com/2001/playmate_of_apes/large_playmate_of_apes.
jpg
>
> I'm sure it'll make 'Time of the Apes' look like POTA 2k by comparison.
> Best,
> KEN
> P.S..and no, I don't spend all day surfing for internet porn. That's my
story
> and I'm sticking to it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

.htmlI finally went out and got the Mad magazine with the parody of POTA 2001.   While I thought it was funny (I especially like the guest appearances of Mojo Jojo and Curious George, looking up Lisa Marie's dress.), it can't hold a candle to the March 1973 Mad issue parody "The Milking of the Planet That Went Ape" starring Rowdy McDowelstick.  What can I say?  I'm just Classic Apes all the way.

What I thought was really funny was the "What the Film 2001 Predicted/What the Year 2001 Actually Delivered" piece.

2001 the Film:  Dark, vast spaces totally devoid of any human life.
2001 the Year:  Theaters showing "Moulin Rouge."

Also while I was at Borders I looked at the latest issue of Cinefantastique.  Their review of the new APES was that it was not only mediocre, but a crime!  Yep, I know I felt ripped-off.  I'm still not sure I'll even bother getting the DVD!

Don't read the above, Alex.  Oops!  Too late.

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The Damned are still together?

A Damned of sorts.  Dave Vanian and Captain Sensible are in it. Rat is off on his own, and has been replaced by some geezer named Pinch on drums and Monty Oxy Moron on keys.  And with the lovely Patricia Morrison on bass.  They rocked the roof off the joint!

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From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 7:00 PM

Subject: [pota] It's a MAD Magazine! A MAD Magazine!!!

I finally went out and got the Mad magazine with the parody of POTA 2001.   While I thought it was funny (I especially like the guest appearances of Mojo Jojo and Curious George, looking up Lisa Marie's dress.), it can't hold a candle to the March 1973 Mad issue parody "The Milking of the Planet That Went Ape" starring Rowdy McDowelstick.  What can I say?  I'm just Classic Apes all the way.

What I thought was really funny was the "What the Film 2001 Predicted/What the Year 2001 Actually Delivered" piece.

2001 the Film:  Dark, vast spaces totally devoid of any human life.
2001 the Year:  Theaters showing "Moulin Rouge."

Also while I was at Borders I looked at the latest issue of Cinefantastique.  Their review of the new APES was that it was not only mediocre, but a crime!  Yep, I know I felt ripped-off.  I'm still not sure I'll even bother getting the DVD!

Don't read the above, Alex.  Oops!  Too late.

-- Rory  

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Already have. And here's hoping that Playmates do action figures from
the same episode.
Best,
KEN

veetus@... wrote:
Speaking of parody, go to your local comic book shop and pick up the new
"Simpsons" Pop Up People with the "Apes" musical characters.

Parodies aside, I agree with Rory, that a planet of the apes film cannot
afford to be made to look ridiculous.

Every film has suffered from this in some form. But they knew from the
beginning that the premise of apes talking was so incredulous that the makeup
had to be good enough to pull it off. Even the first film had a slip when
some kooks went for a tension breaker and let the 3 monkeys joke slide.
Luckily the story material was stong enough to survive the tongue in cheek
humor. But they all had problems. Beneath had the bad masks. Escape had
the gorilla, and tread perilously close to getting cutesy. Conquest had the
orangs and moments of bad acting. And Battle . . . well, too many things to
list here.

I think that's where they went astray with the new one. Aside from not
having a stronger story, they went for that sort of humor, which never should
have been in there in the first place. In their attempt to appease the fans
with bits of 'omage, they paid homage to the flaws as well. Bad move. Keep
it real I say. If you're going to have humor in it, don't go for one liners,
or in jokes that make the audience conscious of them. Just make it a truly
humous situation. 'Human see human do', only goes so far.

ALL THEY NEEDED WAS 3 FREAKEN OUTS!
3 FREAKEN OUTS!

Yeah, the Yankee's could have won the pennant...again.
Kim Hunter could have invited me to spend the holidays with her.
Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes could have been a really great film.
When these things happen I'll know I've died and gone to heaven.
Except for the Yankees, they can't win every year!  Give someone else a turn.
But since I live on earth for now I'll just be happy with what I've got.
It's been a good year.

In a message dated 11/3/01 7:03:08 PM, Haristas@... writes:

<< That's why it's best to look at the TV series as an entity BASED on the
movie
series. Of course, fans like Matt don't agree with this at all, but then to
paraphrase Brent in BENEATH, "That's their insanity." >>

I love the way that the TV series fits into the circular timeline established
by the films.

Matt