In a message dated 11/9/01 2:02:38 PM, Haristas@... writes:

<< Born November 12, 1922 -- JANET COLE >>

Ah yes....Natalie's mom. Gotcha.

Seriously, it's Kim Hunter right? Another proud native Detroiter.

Matt

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 Here's a review of the new DVD by a guy who liked the film. As usual, he thinks the DVD is top notch, which seems to be the general consensus. Gives details about the extras. http://www.dvdtalk.com/

. - - - Jeff




That's a good price they offer, too.  $17.94.

-- Rory

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From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:59 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] birthday suit

In a message dated 11/9/01 8:42:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, MTotsky@... writes:

In a message dated 11/9/01 7:31:32 AM, Haristas@... writes:

<< Don't anyone forget who's birthday it is on Monday. >>

Whose?

Born November 12, 1922 -- JANET COLE

-- Rory

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.htmlIn a message dated 11/9/2001 3:07:36 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

I can afford to buy 2 - one for Mr Cougar!

Michael


Whitty, Whitty, Whitty.......All I'll say is a heartfelt NO THANKS. You can pass the one you offered me onto Mr. "Haristas"... I'm sure he'd love it.<.html

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In a message dated 11/9/2001 3:07:36 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

I can afford to buy 2 - one for Mr Cougar!

Michael



Whitty, Whitty, Whitty.......All I'll say is a heartfelt NO THANKS. You can pass the one you offered me onto Mr. "Haristas"... I'm sure he'd love it.


Yeah, I'll take it.  If nothing else it might make for a nice pair of coasters.

By the way, let me clue you in about "Mr. Haristas," in case you've forgotten.

"La Planete des singes"  Chapter 22, paragraph 11.

"I have mentioned the sort of works the orangutans produce.  The unfortunate thing is, as Zira frequently deplores, they thus write all the educational books, propagating grotesque errors among simian youth.  Not long ago, she assures me, these school textbooks still stated that the planet Soror was the center of the world, although this heresy had been rejected long before by every ape of even mediocre intelligence; and the only reason for this was that there once existed on Soror, thousands of years ago, an ape of considerable authority called Haristas who held such beliefs and whose dogmas have been repeated by the orangutans ever since.  It is easier to understand Zira's attitude toward me now that I have learned that this Haristas believed that apes alone can have a soul.  The chimpanzees, fortunately, have a far more critical mind.  In the last few years, it seems, they have embarked on a regular campaign to desparage the old idol's axioms."

If you want to give the movie's Lawgiver a name, I would say it's Haristas.

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.htmlIn a message dated 11/9/01 5:32:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, Artessatwork@... writes:

Hey, Rory.
   I'm still your friend.   Some others just are not worth your time.         JoAndra

Thanks, JoAndra, but it's just that these guys in the group are so jealous of me they can't stand it.  I just know more about POTA than any of them and they hate me for it, but I long ago got used to their insults.  What else can you expect from humans, especially those Aussies?!!

Oh, by the way, JoAndra, today I mailed to you the VHS copy I made of the Roddy McDowall interview from the "Behind the POTA" S.E. DVD.  Yes!!  That's right, you jealous guys, the DVD has no copyguard on it, and I'm turning into Alex -- a bootlegger!!!

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:53 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Rory has a crush on you

In a message dated 11/9/01 5:32:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, Artessatwork@... writes:

Hey, Rory.
   I'm still your friend.   Some others just are not worth your time.         JoAndra

Thanks, JoAndra, but it's just that these guys in the group are so jealous of me they can't stand it.  I just know more about POTA than any of them and they hate me for it, but I long ago got used to their insults.  What else can you expect from humans, especially those Aussies?!!

Oh, by the way, JoAndra, today I mailed to you the VHS copy I made of the Roddy McDowall interview from the "Behind the POTA" S.E. DVD.  Yes!!  That's right, you jealous guys, the DVD has no copyguard on it, and I'm turning into Alex -- a bootlegger!!!

-- Rory

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:45 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Another review

In a message dated 11/9/01 7:36:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

In a message dated 11/9/2001 3:07:36 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

I can afford to buy 2 - one for Mr Cougar!

Michael

Whitty, Whitty, Whitty.......All I'll say is a heartfelt NO THANKS. You can pass the one you offered me onto Mr. "Haristas"... I'm sure he'd love it.

Yeah, I'll take it.  If nothing else it might make for a nice pair of coasters.

By the way, let me clue you in about "Mr. Haristas," in case you've forgotten.

"La Planete des singes"  Chapter 22, paragraph 11.

"I have mentioned the sort of works the orangutans produce.  The unfortunate thing is, as Zira frequently deplores, they thus write all the educational books, propagating grotesque errors among simian youth.  Not long ago, she assures me, these school textbooks still stated that the planet Soror was the center of the world, although this heresy had been rejected long before by every ape of even mediocre intelligence; and the only reason for this was that there once existed on Soror, thousands of years ago, an ape of considerable authority called Haristas who held such beliefs and whose dogmas have been repeated by the orangutans ever since.  It is easier to understand Zira's attitude toward me now that I have learned that this Haristas believed that apes alone can have a soul.  The chimpanzees, fortunately, have a far more critical mind.  In the last few years, it seems, they have embarked on a regular campaign to desparage the old idol's axioms."

If you want to give the movie's Lawgiver a name, I would say it's Haristas.

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In a message dated 11/8/01 9:42:41 PM Central Standard Time,
veetus@... writes:

<< Hey, someone gave me a Burton POTA T-shirt for my birthday. Isn't it
funny that they used that early makeup everybody hated for the garments and
posters? No wonder they're having trouble selling that stuff.

>>

I've bought 2 already, at reduced prices, of course. I don't spend more than
5 bucks for a shirt. Anyway, the one I have is the ultra-dull one with
Attar's face on the front, and 'Planet of the Apes' in the upper-left. The
Ultra-cool one has the 2 golden apes from Thade's breastplate on it, with an
image of the Oberon between them. 'Planet of the Apes' is written in gray
below it. Cool deal.

-Joe

Oh, yeah. Happy Birthday!

-Joe

In a message dated 11/9/01 7:47:13 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@...
writes:

<< If you want to give the movie's Lawgiver a name, I would say it's Haristas.

>>

Funny, I just got done reading the book again a few minutes ago...

Anyway, I thought his name was Zeno. Wasn't it that in the earlier script
for Battle?

-Joe

Thanks for the wishes, Joe. The shirt I got says "Rule the Planet" across
the top and has that awful early Attar makeup and below him is a horde of
apes and it says "Planet of the Apes" at the bottom. Not very creative, like
the whole enterprise, but I'll wear it with
- - - - Jeff

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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] birthday suit


> In a message dated 11/8/01 9:42:41 PM Central Standard Time,
> veetus@... writes:
>
> << Hey, someone gave me a Burton POTA T-shirt for my birthday. Isn't it
> funny that they used that early makeup everybody hated for the garments
and
> posters? No wonder they're having trouble selling that stuff.
> >>
>
> I've bought 2 already, at reduced prices, of course. I don't spend more
than
> 5 bucks for a shirt. Anyway, the one I have is the ultra-dull one with
> Attar's face on the front, and 'Planet of the Apes' in the upper-left.
The
> Ultra-cool one has the 2 golden apes from Thade's breastplate on it, with
an
> image of the Oberon between them. 'Planet of the Apes' is written in gray
> below it. Cool deal.
>
> -Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

In a message dated 11/9/01 9:54:39 PM Central Standard Time,
veetus@... writes:

<< Thanks for the wishes, Joe. The shirt I got says "Rule the Planet" across
the top and has that awful early Attar makeup and below him is a horde of
apes and it says "Planet of the Apes" at the bottom. Not very creative, like
the whole enterprise, but I'll wear it with >>

Yep, have a great birthday. You see, that's the shirt I didn't want. I saw
it at Suncoast and it just looked 'blah'. Plus, it was 18 bucks, so that
didn't help out. The one I want is all red with 'Planet of the Apes' in cool
writing across the front.

Best wishes, again.

-Joe

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I just got the new Director's Edition of "Star Trek: the Motion Picture" on DVD.  I haven't watched much of it, but one thing I did view and listen to was the commentary track during the overture.  I had a hunch it might be Jerry Goldsmith talking and it was.  And what's the first SF movie he mentions?  "Planet of the Apes" of course, and how avant-garde the score was, and how the 'director' encouraged him to be as far-out with it as he wanted.  Goldsmith ends by telling how his approach with Star Trek was to write more romantic music -- "The complete opposite of 'Planet of the Apes,'" he says.   Pretty cool.

I do hope that Fox gets around to doing a Five-Star Edition of PLANET so that hopefully we can get some Goldsmith comments on APES before Jerry's no longer with us.  Please hurry Fox, the guy's over 70!

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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:40 PM

Subject: [pota] Star Trek meets the Planet of the Apes

Hey you bunch of apes!

I just got the new Director's Edition of "Star Trek: the Motion Picture" on DVD.  I haven't watched much of it, but one thing I did view and listen to was the commentary track during the overture.  I had a hunch it might be Jerry Goldsmith talking and it was.  And what's the first SF movie he mentions?  "Planet of the Apes" of course, and how avant-garde the score was, and how the 'director' encouraged him to be as far-out with it as he wanted.  Goldsmith ends by telling how his approach with Star Trek was to write more romantic music -- "The complete opposite of 'Planet of the Apes,'" he says.   Pretty cool.

I do hope that Fox gets around to doing a Five-Star Edition of PLANET so that hopefully we can get some Goldsmith comments on APES before Jerry's no longer with us.  Please hurry Fox, the guy's over 70!

-- Rory

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  Damn, they could do an awesome commentary track right now. Heston's here , Hunter's here, Goldsmith's here, Mort Abrahams, William Creber, Buck Kartalian.

They could even use the stuff they just did for the anniversary, though it's be nice to hear some new stories.  But I have a feeling getting new info out of Heston is like pulling teeth. 

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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:40 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Star Trek meets the Planet of the Apes

  Damn, they could do an awesome commentary track right now. Heston's here , Hunter's here, Goldsmith's here, Mort Abrahams, William Creber, Buck Kartalian.

They could even use the stuff they just did for the anniversary, though it's be nice to hear some new stories.  But I have a feeling getting new info out of Heston is like pulling teeth. 
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.html In a message dated 11/9/01 5:32:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, Artessatwork@... writes:

Hey, Rory.
   I'm still your friend.   Some others just are not worth your time.         JoAndra

Thanks, JoAndra, but it's just that these guys in the group are so jealous of me they can't stand it.  I just know more about POTA than any of them and they hate me for it, but I long ago got used to their insults.  What else can you expect from humans, especially those Aussies?!!

Oh, by the way, JoAndra, today I mailed to you the VHS copy I made of the Roddy McDowall interview from the "Behind the POTA" S.E. DVD.  Yes!!  That's right, you jealous guys, the DVD has no copyguard on it, and I'm turning into Alex -- a bootlegger!!!

-- Rory

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 Well, a commentary is supposed to be while watching the film. Memories get jogged that way. They could show the film to them separately and then use the best comments. I'm sure Heston is pretty Aped-out.  The alternative is an Eric Greene vs. Rory track.                                                   - - - Jeff

Eric Greene and I see pretty much eye to eye.  I've had some e-mail exchanges with him.  He found out John Chambers died through me.

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From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:57 AM

Subject: [pota] Second Star Wars Trailer

I just got the new Director's Edition of "Star Trek: the Motion Picture" on DVD.  

 

I've been waiting for this DVD to come out. Thanks Rory.

Out of all the Star Trek Movies, I've always found this one to be most interesting one of all. I'll be picking up a copy.

 

Speaking of off topic...Rory

Aas for those who haven't seen the new Star Wars Trailer. (2nd Trailer) I'll have it posted on my server at: www.calima5021.com/ep2_trailer.mpg

 

Just a weekend exclusive for you guys on the e-group.

I won't have it officially posted until after the Harry Potter (3rd Trailer) is released.

So enjoy it just for this weenend.

 

Best.

Al

 

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Go to the "About the Movie" tab and click "Apes Insight"!!!

 

It sends you to a beautiful website and tells how Thade gets to Earth!!!

 

You have to see it!

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From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:45 AM

Subject: [pota] NEW POTA WEB SITE LAYOUT

Is it just me or does anyone else see what I see?

The flash site has an all new layout.

 

Here's a just one snapshot of the site.

 

Best.

Al

 

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From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 6:45 AM

Subject: [pota] NEW POTA WEB SITE LAYOUT

Is it just me or does anyone else see what I see?

The flash site has an all new layout.

 

Here's a just one snapshot of the site.

 

Best.

Al

 

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 7:39 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Star Trek meets the Planet of the Apes

In a message dated 11/10/01 2:26:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

 Well, a commentary is supposed to be while watching the film. Memories get jogged that way. They could show the film to them separately and then use the best comments. I'm sure Heston is pretty Aped-out.  The alternative is an Eric Greene vs. Rory track.                                                   - - - Jeff

Eric Greene and I see pretty much eye to eye.  I've had some e-mail exchanges with him.  He found out John Chambers died through me.

-- Rory

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From: Mike Le Master

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 7:44 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Second Star Wars Trailer

Go to the "About the Movie" tab and click "Apes Insight"!!!

 

It sends you to a beautiful website and tells how Thade gets to Earth!!!

 

You have to see it!

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From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:57 AM

Subject: [pota] Second Star Wars Trailer

I just got the new Director's Edition of "Star Trek: the Motion Picture" on DVD.  

 

I've been waiting for this DVD to come out. Thanks Rory.

Out of all the Star Trek Movies, I've always found this one to be most interesting one of all. I'll be picking up a copy.

 

Speaking of off topic...Rory

Aas for those who haven't seen the new Star Wars Trailer. (2nd Trailer) I'll have it posted on my server at: www.calima5021.com/ep2_trailer.mpg

 

Just a weekend exclusive for you guys on the e-group.

I won't have it officially posted until after the Harry Potter (3rd Trailer) is released.

So enjoy it just for this weenend.

 

Best.

Al

 

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From: veetus@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:14 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Second Star Wars Trailer

"It sends you to a beautiful website"? Sounds like you die. Are there angels who look like Linda Harrison? 

   

                                                          - - - Jeff

 

 

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 7:44 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Second Star Wars Trailer

Go to the "About the Movie" tab and click "Apes Insight"!!!

 

It sends you to a beautiful website and tells how Thade gets to Earth!!!

 

You have to see it!

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From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:57 AM

Subject: [pota] Second Star Wars Trailer

I just got the new Director's Edition of "Star Trek: the Motion Picture" on DVD.  

 

I've been waiting for this DVD to come out. Thanks Rory.

Out of all the Star Trek Movies, I've always found this one to be most interesting one of all. I'll be picking up a copy.

 

Speaking of off topic...Rory

Aas for those who haven't seen the new Star Wars Trailer. (2nd Trailer) I'll have it posted on my server at: www.calima5021.com/ep2_trailer.mpg

 

Just a weekend exclusive for you guys on the e-group.

I won't have it officially posted until after the Harry Potter (3rd Trailer) is released.

So enjoy it just for this weenend.

 

Best.

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.htmlOkay, if I was in charge at Fox this is how I would 'direct' a commentary track for PLANET.  I would first try to get the cooperation of Heston, Kim Hunter, Mort Abrahams, Natalie Trundy, William Creber, Linda Harrison, Lou Wagner, Buck Kartalian, and Jerry Goldsmith.  I would also lift stuff that's already been recorded from Roddy McDowall and John Chambers.

From Heston I'd try not to have him just repeat what's been said before, but as he watches the movie try to get him to talf about Frank Schaffner, their history together, their working relationship, and their choices on this film.  From Hunter I'd get her to talking about just the daily effort of working in the makeup and doing this scene or that with McDowall.  I'd drop in previous comments from McDowall during Hunter's reminiscences. (Remember, McDowall was just a co-star on PLANET, which is essentially a Heston flick.)

From Mort Abrahams I'd like mostly just to hear an insider history of the pre-production, especially how the script developed and what it was each writer, including the mysterious John T. Kelley, brought to the story.  I'd also like to hear Abrahams' remembrances of Jacobs, and at that point I'd drop in some comments from Trundy.   

From William Creber I'd like to hear as much as he can recall about the nuts and bolts of the production.  Harrison, Wagner, and Kartalian could be used to fill in any gaps, hopefully with amusing stories.  Hey, maybe we could even get some words from James Whitmore.

I'd used stuff that has already been recorded to get comments from Chambers, but I'd also try to get Rick Baker to 'guest comment' in order to 'flesh out' more details of the makeup.  I wouldn't want to hear anything negative from Baker, though.

From Goldsmith I'd like to hear about his working relationship with Schaffner and his choices with the music, in fact Goldsmith would be on a second audio track so that each music cue could be isolated.  That way you could get comments from Goldsmith then listen to what it was he composed for the film, then listen to Goldsmith again while you wait for the next cue.

It would be quite a project to construct such a thing and probably cost some bucks -- and that's why I don't think it'll ever happen, but for now it doesn't hurt to dream.

By the way, Joe Russo met with Ted Post at Post's house many years ago, and they watched BENEATH on VHS.  Russo recorded the entire conversation they had while they watched the movie.  I've listened to some of it, and it's mostly Post complaining how this and that should have been better.  Some of it is funny.

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Hey, check out the latest creation from Apemania.  Nice, but they haven't quite nailed it for me.  Roddy's hair was more tight and slicked down in the movie, and of course he didn't have the green 'ape shoes.'

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From: Alexander Ruiz [prophecysite@...]
Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2001 6:46
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] REPLIES TO ALL

Mike...

Well, first of all, welcome aboard Mike.

Mike Le Master was one who helped out a lot on the site when the countdown to POTA 2001 was going on. He gave me a lot of great pics and links.

But I warn you Mike, not many POTA 2001 lovers here, this is mostly Original POTA Fans with a hand full of POTA 2001 lovers. And as I love the Original just as much I enjoy chatting with the gang here. A cool gang.

 

Jeff...

Dude, I am not a lair, a bootlicker, maybe, but not a lair. :o)

 

DVD Recorder...

The DVD recorder will have to wait until after the holidays gang, my computer is going ape shit on me and I had to upgrade it. Just bought a 1.6 gig MHZ Computer with DVD rom, CD burner and Flat Screen along with all the top of the line goodies, memory and so forth. I had to do it. So now I'll be away for awhile whlie I put this baby together, reinstall all my programs and get reconnected to the web.

The DVD recorder I'm buying in January after the holidays. For you know how the holidays can be. $$$$

But I will begin the exclusive DVD line in January.

 

The Ending of Planet of the Apes.

FUCK ME!

I liked the ending I gave on the site a lot better. And sorry Michael, you were right and I was wrong. I can't believe the shitty explanation they gave on the site.

Half ass, soap opera tale here we come! What a stupid ending!

I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS SHIT (pardon my french) Well, you were right too Jeff, pod in the lake.

OH FUCK ME!

 

Sorry again, but this now a movie that makes no sence AND REALLY STUPID!

Hell, I should write the damn sequel, but I can see FoX doesn't hire bright people.

 

Here are the snap shots explaning the ending for those who don't have FLASH.

 

I'll be back gang.

OH FUCK ME!

 

Best.

Al

 

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I made the mistake of thinking too much about the horse (is it actually Earth somehow?), and the answer was simple - they did not think about it.

And how did the horse get on earth?  It evolved here!  Maybe that's just how life works.  Just because they said it was uninhabited doesn't mean there was no life.  Maybe they just meant no intelligent life.  I think you do think too much . . . or maybe not enough.  It would be a little ridiculous to have a planet with oxygen rich atmosphere and water and plant-life, but no animals.  And in an environment so Earth-like there's no reason not to have Earth type animals filling the niches.

I can't believe the shitty explanation they gave on the site.

Half ass, soap opera tale here we come! What a stupid ending!
I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS SHIT (pardon my french) Well, you were right too Jeff, pod in the lake.

My screenplay explains all that shit.  I'd tell you guys, but then you'd be knocking on Fox's door and I'd be stuck out in the cold.  But they probably won't listen to me anyway, and produce some other morons half-assed ideas again. 

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From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:45 AM

Subject: [pota] REPLIES TO ALL

Mike...

Well, first of all, welcome aboard Mike.

Mike Le Master was one who helped out a lot on the site when the countdown to POTA 2001 was going on. He gave me a lot of great pics and links.

But I warn you Mike, not many POTA 2001 lovers here, this is mostly Original POTA Fans with a hand full of POTA 2001 lovers. And as I love the Original just as much I enjoy chatting with the gang here. A cool gang.

 

Jeff...

Dude, I am not a lair, a bootlicker, maybe, but not a lair. :o)

 

DVD Recorder...

The DVD recorder will have to wait until after the holidays gang, my computer is going ape shit on me and I had to upgrade it. Just bought a 1.6 gig MHZ Computer with DVD rom, CD burner and Flat Screen along with all the top of the line goodies, memory and so forth. I had to do it. So now I'll be away for awhile whlie I put this baby together, reinstall all my programs and get reconnected to the web.

The DVD recorder I'm buying in January after the holidays. For you know how the holidays can be. $$$$

But I will begin the exclusive DVD line in January.

 

The Ending of Planet of the Apes.

FUCK ME!

I liked the ending I gave on the site a lot better. And sorry Michael, you were right and I was wrong. I can't believe the shitty explanation they gave on the site.

Half ass, soap opera tale here we come! What a stupid ending!

I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS SHIT (pardon my french) Well, you were right too Jeff, pod in the lake.

OH FUCK ME!

 

Sorry again, but this now a movie that makes no sence AND REALLY STUPID!

Hell, I should write the damn sequel, but I can see FoX doesn't hire bright people.

 

Here are the snap shots explaning the ending for those who don't have FLASH.

 

I'll be back gang.

OH FUCK ME!

 

Best.

Al

 

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From: LordTZer0@...

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Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 2:46 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] REPLIES TO ALL

I can't believe the shitty explanation they gave on the site.

Half ass, soap opera tale here we come! What a stupid ending!
I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS SHIT (pardon my french) Well, you were right too Jeff, pod in the lake.

My screenplay explains all that shit.  I'd tell you guys, but then you'd be knocking on Fox's door and I'd be stuck out in the cold.  But they probably won't listen to me anyway, and produce some other morons half-assed ideas again. 
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From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:45 AM

Subject: [pota] REPLIES TO ALL

Mike...

Well, first of all, welcome aboard Mike.

Mike Le Master was one who helped out a lot on the site when the countdown to POTA 2001 was going on. He gave me a lot of great pics and links.

But I warn you Mike, not many POTA 2001 lovers here, this is mostly Original POTA Fans with a hand full of POTA 2001 lovers. And as I love the Original just as much I enjoy chatting with the gang here. A cool gang.

 

Jeff...

Dude, I am not a lair, a bootlicker, maybe, but not a lair. :o)

 

DVD Recorder...

The DVD recorder will have to wait until after the holidays gang, my computer is going ape shit on me and I had to upgrade it. Just bought a 1.6 gig MHZ Computer with DVD rom, CD burner and Flat Screen along with all the top of the line goodies, memory and so forth. I had to do it. So now I'll be away for awhile whlie I put this baby together, reinstall all my programs and get reconnected to the web.

The DVD recorder I'm buying in January after the holidays. For you know how the holidays can be. $$$$

But I will begin the exclusive DVD line in January.

 

The Ending of Planet of the Apes.

FUCK ME!

I liked the ending I gave on the site a lot better. And sorry Michael, you were right and I was wrong. I can't believe the shitty explanation they gave on the site.

Half ass, soap opera tale here we come! What a stupid ending!

I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS SHIT (pardon my french) Well, you were right too Jeff, pod in the lake.

OH FUCK ME!

 

Sorry again, but this now a movie that makes no sence AND REALLY STUPID!

Hell, I should write the damn sequel, but I can see FoX doesn't hire bright people.

 

Here are the snap shots explaning the ending for those who don't have FLASH.

 

I'll be back gang.

OH FUCK ME!

 

Best.

Al

 

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.htmlIn a message dated 11/10/01 7:47:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, prophecysite@... writes:

Already have lost hope, Jeff.
What they're telling us is, that Thade traveled back in time AND LEAD AN APE REVOLT? Holy Bullshit, apes are too dumb to think, little lone revolt.

If he had changed the course of evolution, then centuries later apes take over. Hell yeah! That works. But Thade lead a revolt?
This is nothing but a kiddie movie, not that a kid would be so dumb enough to believe it. Now that would really be insulting.

This movie, Jeff, will go down as the STUPIDEST movie in the history of Hollywood.
I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!

I left a post in their forum under "movie ending" or whatever it was titled.
Posted by DarthThade, yours truly. FUCK THEM!

I HATE THIS MOVE.

Pardon my french bud.
Best.
Al

Wait a minute here!!!!   Have I been given a lobotomy?  Is this Alex writing this, OR ME?!!!   Have I traveled back in time and taken over the mind of Alex (in a revolt of his brain cells), or has Alex evolved into me?   A planet where Alex evolves into Rory?  There's got to be an answer.  I better not look for it -- I may not like what I find!

Hey, guess what I did today?  I pre-ordered Burton's POTA on the net!!!   Pray for me, Alex!!!  I'm DEvolving!

-- Rory<.html

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 5:16 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: REPLIES TO ALL

In a message dated 11/10/01 7:47:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, prophecysite@... writes:

Already have lost hope, Jeff.
What they're telling us is, that Thade traveled back in time AND LEAD AN APE REVOLT? Holy Bullshit, apes are too dumb to think, little lone revolt.

If he had changed the course of evolution, then centuries later apes take over. Hell yeah! That works. But Thade lead a revolt?
This is nothing but a kiddie movie, not that a kid would be so dumb enough to believe it. Now that would really be insulting.

This movie, Jeff, will go down as the STUPIDEST movie in the history of Hollywood.
I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!

I left a post in their forum under "movie ending" or whatever it was titled.
Posted by DarthThade, yours truly. FUCK THEM!

I HATE THIS MOVE.

Pardon my french bud.
Best.
Al

Wait a minute here!!!!   Have I been given a lobotomy?  Is this Alex writing this, OR ME?!!!   Have I traveled back in time and taken over the mind of Alex (in a revolt of his brain cells), or has Alex evolved into me?   A planet where Alex evolves into Rory?  There's got to be an answer.  I better not look for it -- I may not like what I find!

Hey, guess what I did today?  I pre-ordered Burton's POTA on the net!!!   Pray for me, Alex!!!  I'm DEvolving!

-- Rory

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.htmlIn a message dated 11/10/01 9:00:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, prophecysite@... writes:

It doesn't add up, Jeff.
Even if Thade traveled back to the point where they just began to tamper with Apes Geneticly, apes at that point were at the point of exstinction. (according to Leo in the Movie) Point of exstinction vs. 6 billion humans doesn't add up.
Hell, not even a nuclear war could help these apes.

Any further then that (backward) you have more apes, but dumber than a door nob.
And if this is on the official web site, then there's no doubt Fox approved it.
I'll leave the site up, hell, what choice do I have now. Calima5021 I'm stuck with.
But as far as a sequel goes, they can countdown that sad excuse for an ending without me. I won't touch it with a ten foot pole.

Jesus Christ! Even the creation of Jar Jar binks was more cleaver than this crap!
Jesus Christ, I'm in Jar Jar hell!

Oh, man!

Best.
Al

Maybe Thade went back in time to a period years after Leo disappeared, a time when, through the genetic re-engineering, ape populations on earth had soared, while at the same time the human population had dropped.  This large population of apes weren't animals anymore, but something between animals and humans.  The human population had to deal with them in some way, so in many countries they were laborers, household servants, even slaves.  Into this world comes bad-ass Thade and when he sees what's going on he's more pissed than ever.  He decides to do something about it.

Now I think I see what Fox may have in mind for a sequel -- a remake of CONQUEST!   It actually has me interested.  Take it easy, Alex.  You're supposed to be the optimist.  Look on the bright side --if this is what Fox has planned, APES may rule this planet.  All is not lost.

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In a message dated 11/10/01 12:30:19 PM, Haristas@... writes:

<< Hey, check out the latest creation from Apemania. Nice, but they haven't
quite nailed it for me. Roddy's hair was more tight and slicked down in the
movie, and of course he didn't have the green 'ape shoes.' >>

I agree, it's an awesome piece, but just a tad off. I think the eyes is
what's doing it for me.

Whatever happened to Brian anyway? I miss his commentary here.

Matt

In a message dated 11/10/01 10:08:05 PM, Haristas@... writes:

<< Maybe Thade went back in time to a period years after Leo disappeared, a
time
when, through the genetic re-engineering, ape populations on earth had
soared, while at the same time the human population had dropped. This large
population of apes weren't animals anymore, but something between animals and
humans. The human population had to deal with them in some way, so in many
countries they were laborers, household servants, even slaves. Into this
world comes bad-ass Thade and when he sees what's going on he's more pissed
than ever. He decides to do something about it. >>

So does this mean that the timeline of POTA 2001 is circular? Think about it,
if it wasn't for Leo going after Pericles and landing on the POTA, then Thade
never would have came back to Earth and started the revolt.

I love those circular time lines!

Matt

Alex,

The link did not work. Is it still up?

Matt

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.htmlIn a message dated 11/10/01 11:56:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, Artessatwork@... writes:

Apes  are  a hell of a lot smarter than one is led to believe.  Besides,  we share 98percent of their  DNA.          JoAndra

The chimpanzee is more closely related to man than he is the gorilla!   One way to look at ourselves is that we're human chimpanzees, or that we are the human great apes.  In fact, we are -- apes.

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 11/10/01 11:58:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, mslpel5@... writes:

Then centuries later, Leo arrives on Earth only to find it ruled by apes.  The reason it all looks the same is because the Apes could only CONSUME our technology.  

The proper term would be that they could only "ape" our society.
This is straight out of Boulle-school.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 7:07 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: REPLIES TO ALL

In a message dated 11/10/01 9:00:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, prophecysite@... writes:

It doesn't add up, Jeff.
Even if Thade traveled back to the point where they just began to tamper with Apes Geneticly, apes at that point were at the point of exstinction. (according to Leo in the Movie) Point of exstinction vs. 6 billion humans doesn't add up.
Hell, not even a nuclear war could help these apes.

Any further then that (backward) you have more apes, but dumber than a door nob.
And if this is on the official web site, then there's no doubt Fox approved it.
I'll leave the site up, hell, what choice do I have now. Calima5021 I'm stuck with.
But as far as a sequel goes, they can countdown that sad excuse for an ending without me. I won't touch it with a ten foot pole.

Jesus Christ! Even the creation of Jar Jar binks was more cleaver than this crap!
Jesus Christ, I'm in Jar Jar hell!

Oh, man!

Best.
Al

Maybe Thade went back in time to a period years after Leo disappeared, a time when, through the genetic re-engineering, ape populations on earth had soared, while at the same time the human population had dropped.  This large population of apes weren't animals anymore, but something between animals and humans.  The human population had to deal with them in some way, so in many countries they were laborers, household servants, even slaves.  Into this world comes bad-ass Thade and when he sees what's going on he's more pissed than ever.  He decides to do something about it.

Now I think I see what Fox may have in mind for a sequel -- a remake of CONQUEST!   It actually has me interested.  Take it easy, Alex.  You're supposed to be the optimist.  Look on the bright side --if this is what Fox has planned, APES may rule this planet.  All is not lost.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:06 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: REPLIES TO ALL

In a message dated 11/10/01 11:56:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, Artessatwork@... writes:

Apes  are  a hell of a lot smarter than one is led to believe.  Besides,  we share 98percent of their  DNA.          JoAndra

The chimpanzee is more closely related to man than he is the gorilla!   One way to look at ourselves is that we're human chimpanzees, or that we are the human great apes.  In fact, we are -- apes.

-- Rory
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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:08 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: REPLIES TO ALL

In a message dated 11/10/01 11:58:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, mslpel5@... writes:

Then centuries later, Leo arrives on Earth only to find it ruled by apes.  The reason it all looks the same is because the Apes could only CONSUME our technology.  

The proper term would be that they could only "ape" our society.
This is straight out of Boulle-school.

-- Rory

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Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:

> From Heston I'd try not to have him just repeat what's been said before,

but

> as he watches the movie try to get him to talf about Frank Schaffner,

their

> history together, their working relationship, and their choices on this

film.

Good idea. Heston might not be one for coming up with new stories very often
(but then he has probably spoken about it countless times, it's difficult to
say much that's new) but perhaps if he was actually sitting down watching
the film as he spoke it might jog his memory a bit.

> From Goldsmith I'd like to hear about his working relationship with

Schaffner

> and his choices with the music, in fact Goldsmith would be on a second

audio

> track so that each music cue could be isolated. That way you could get
> comments from Goldsmith then listen to what it was he composed for the

film,

> then listen to Goldsmith again while you wait for the next cue.

Yeah, I'd love to hear this. A good example is the commentary track by
Elfman on Edward Scissor hands - an entire audio track consisting solely of
the music and Elfman's commentary. Something like this for Planet of the
Apes would be fantasic.

> It would be quite a project to construct such a thing and probably cost

some

> bucks -- and that's why I don't think it'll ever happen, but for now it
> doesn't hurt to dream.

Yep, I think it's little more than wishful thinking. However, if you'd
mentioned to me ten years ago that all (or nearly all) of the PotA
soundtracks would be available on CD, there'd be a PotA computer game, and
that someone would make a PotA documentary over two hours in length, I'd
probably have said the same thing.

> By the way, Joe Russo met with Ted Post at Post's house many years ago,

and

> they watched BENEATH on VHS. Russo recorded the entire conversation they

had

> while they watched the movie. I've listened to some of it, and it's

mostly

> Post complaining how this and that should have been better. Some of it is
> funny.

There we are, a ready-made commentary for Beneath too - and Rosenman's still
around, too! More wishful thinking...

Alan

Matt <MTotsky@...> wrote:

> So does this mean that the timeline of POTA 2001 is circular? Think about

it,

> if it wasn't for Leo going after Pericles and landing on the POTA, then

Thade

> never would have came back to Earth and started the revolt.
>
> I love those circular time lines!

Almost as much as you love trying to wind up Rory...?

Alan

Even if Thade traveled back to the point where they just began to tamper with Apes Geneticly, apes at that point were at the point of exstinction. (according to Leo in the Movie) Point of exstinction vs. 6 billion humans doesn't add up.

Yes, it does, but I'm not going to tell you why.  The surprise will not be given away on any news group.  You'll have to go see the movie.

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Does anyone have a clue where I can find the Planet of the Apes font? I've been looking forever.

Any help is appreciated.

-Mike



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.htmlIn a message dated 11/11/01 2:25:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

 Yes, with a sequel in 2003, the 40th anniversary of the novel. Stick around, Alex, make it so!

                                                          - - - Jeff



Hey, has anyone seen any commercials for the POTA 2001 on DVD and video yet?  What happened to Fox spending $10 Million to promote it?  I'm seeing commercials for "The Grinch" coming out on November 20th.  Fox better get there act together, otherwise the sales won't be that great for APES and a sequel that less likely.

-- Rory<.html

Well, at least with the Elfman comments we'll get something exactly like
that. On the new DVD Elfman does indeed comment on his "Ape" music between
tracks, just like on "Edward Scissorhands". Dreams do come true.

- - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] APES commentary track.


> Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:
> > From Heston I'd try not to have him just repeat what's been said before,
> but
> > as he watches the movie try to get him to talf about Frank Schaffner,
> their
> > history together, their working relationship, and their choices on this
> film.
>
> Good idea. Heston might not be one for coming up with new stories very
often
> (but then he has probably spoken about it countless times, it's difficult
to
> say much that's new) but perhaps if he was actually sitting down watching
> the film as he spoke it might jog his memory a bit.
>
> > From Goldsmith I'd like to hear about his working relationship with
> Schaffner
> > and his choices with the music, in fact Goldsmith would be on a second
> audio
> > track so that each music cue could be isolated. That way you could get
> > comments from Goldsmith then listen to what it was he composed for the
> film,
> > then listen to Goldsmith again while you wait for the next cue.
>
> Yeah, I'd love to hear this. A good example is the commentary track by
> Elfman on Edward Scissor hands - an entire audio track consisting solely
of
> the music and Elfman's commentary. Something like this for Planet of the
> Apes would be fantasic.
>
> > It would be quite a project to construct such a thing and probably cost
> some
> > bucks -- and that's why I don't think it'll ever happen, but for now it
> > doesn't hurt to dream.
>
> Yep, I think it's little more than wishful thinking. However, if you'd
> mentioned to me ten years ago that all (or nearly all) of the PotA
> soundtracks would be available on CD, there'd be a PotA computer game, and
> that someone would make a PotA documentary over two hours in length, I'd
> probably have said the same thing.
>
> > By the way, Joe Russo met with Ted Post at Post's house many years ago,
> and
> > they watched BENEATH on VHS. Russo recorded the entire conversation
they
> had
> > while they watched the movie. I've listened to some of it, and it's
> mostly
> > Post complaining how this and that should have been better. Some of it
is
> > funny.
>
> There we are, a ready-made commentary for Beneath too - and Rosenman's
still
> around, too! More wishful thinking...
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 6:32 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: REPLIES TO ALL

In a message dated 11/11/01 2:25:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

 Yes, with a sequel in 2003, the 40th anniversary of the novel. Stick around, Alex, make it so!

                                                          - - - Jeff

Hey, has anyone seen any commercials for the POTA 2001 on DVD and video yet?  What happened to Fox spending $10 Million to promote it?  I'm seeing commercials for "The Grinch" coming out on November 20th.  Fox better get there act together, otherwise the sales won't be that great for APES and a sequel that less likely.

-- Rory

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Who the hell has been teaching you guys to play Rugby (Union AND League!!!)?

Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Maxwell [alan@...]
> Sent: Monday, 12 November 2001 0:05
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: REPLIES TO ALL
>
>
> Matt <MTotsky@...> wrote:
> > So does this mean that the timeline of POTA 2001 is circular?
> Think about
> it,
> > if it wasn't for Leo going after Pericles and landing on the POTA, then
> Thade
> > never would have came back to Earth and started the revolt.
> >
> > I love those circular time lines!
>
> Almost as much as you love trying to wind up Rory...?
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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"Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:

> Who the hell has been teaching you guys to play Rugby (Union AND

League!!!)?

Don't ask me... I can't stand the sport.

Nice attempt though...

Alan

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Now I know how Burton felt towards Fox after making Planet of the Apes

Yeah, I just checked out a fox site.  It barely mentioned Ape only in passing, citing that they had always had luck with sequels, squeezed in between the Sherlock Homes and Omen and Alien franchises.  They didn't seem too proud of the Series that saved their asses.  I'll be working on the screenplay next month after the end of the semester.  Once I have something to copyright and register I'll fill you in if you don't mind spoilers.

.htmlIn a message dated 11/11/2001 9:42:08 PM Central Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

They didn't seem too proud of the Series that saved their asses.

If you're referring to Fox and their attitude towards APES, you're right. I felt that way for along time. No, I can't give any specific reasons, but to me, it's always just been a feeling I get.They like the money aspect of what APES gave them, but they really do seem to cast it aside otherwise. <.html

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 9:43 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: REPLIES TO ALL

In a message dated 11/11/2001 9:42:08 PM Central Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

They didn't seem too proud of the Series that saved their asses.

If you're referring to Fox and their attitude towards APES, you're right. I felt that way for along time. No, I can't give any specific reasons, but to me, it's always just been a feeling I get.They like the money aspect of what APES gave them, but they really do seem to cast it aside otherwise.
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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 7:41 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: REPLIES TO ALL

Now I know how Burton felt towards Fox after making Planet of the Apes

Yeah, I just checked out a fox site.  It barely mentioned Ape only in passing, citing that they had always had luck with sequels, squeezed in between the Sherlock Homes and Omen and Alien franchises.  They didn't seem too proud of the Series that saved their asses.  I'll be working on the screenplay next month after the end of the semester.  Once I have something to copyright and register I'll fill you in if you don't mind spoilers.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 10:07 PM

Subject: [pota] Testing 1-2-3

Just testing my e-mail gang.

I hope it gets through.

 

And if it does, let me tell you something.

AVOID GETTING THE NEW WINDOWS XP!

IT SUCKS!

 

Half the software and hardware I have that works on my Windows 98 doesn't work with Windows XP. You have to get the XP upgrade drives from the sofware, hardware companies on the web for free. But if they don't have it, or no longer in production...

YOUR SCREWED!

 

Thank God this XP garbage came with my system. Because $200 plus half your programs don't work?

It's a rip off! And if you do get it, be ready to repurchase most of your software and hardware so that it could work with WINDOWS XP. I guess 100 Billion Dollars is not enough for Bill Gates, bloody bastard.

 

First POTA 2001, and now this? Oh Lord, where does it end?!

Thank God I still have my trusty Windows 98.

Thanks Bill! :o)

 

Best.

Al

 

 

 

 

 

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If you're talking about an "Apes" script, don't waste your time. Fox owns it lock, stock and Cornelius. Write something original. What am I saying? If you write something original they won't make that either. Rip something off and put your own title on it.

Well, they can hire some hack who doesn't give a shit and make a piece of crap, or they can buy my script for the sequel and make a good film for a change!  What am I saying?  When pigs fly!  I'll have a go anyway.  It's not like I don't have time.  It's not like they're rushing the next one into production.  They'll wait years . . . and then rush it into production.

.htmlIn a message dated 11/12/01 1:25:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

There's a review of the TV show DVDs at http://www.dvdangle.com/

. This guy loves the show and calls it the "Holy Grail" of his collection but is disappointed by the presentation. Apparently there are no TV commercials for the series, just an ad for the "Evolution" box set and one for the Burton movie. In other words, zippo extras. But perhaps that was the only way to keep the price down ( but face it, if you want this series you'll be willing to pay $70; if you don't want it you're not even going to pay $40. They might as well have went all out).

                                                          - - - Jeff



You'll also notice this reviewer isn't too crazy about the quality of the transfers, or the lack there of.  I knew it would be like this.  The original movie looked like shit on video right up to 1998!  What else to expect from Fox!!

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  Hilarious!

 

 Alex, I hope you're kidding. That website was just written by some bozo, the same kind of bozo that put the statue on the cover of the DVD. And anyway, if the apes could take over on the other planet, they could take over on Earth. The Oberon apes were Earth apes, their genetics were tampered with. "Conquest" was a bit iffy, too. You gotta go with the flow.

 

                                                      - - - Jeff

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 5:16 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: REPLIES TO ALL

In a message dated 11/10/01 7:47:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, prophecysite@... writes:

Already have lost hope, Jeff.
What they're telling us is, that Thade traveled back in time AND LEAD AN APE REVOLT? Holy Bullshit, apes are too dumb to think, little lone revolt.

If he had changed the course of evolution, then centuries later apes take over. Hell yeah! That works. But Thade lead a revolt?
This is nothing but a kiddie movie, not that a kid would be so dumb enough to believe it. Now that would really be insulting.

This movie, Jeff, will go down as the STUPIDEST movie in the history of Hollywood.
I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!

I left a post in their forum under "movie ending" or whatever it was titled.
Posted by DarthThade, yours truly. FUCK THEM!

I HATE THIS MOVE.

Pardon my french bud.
Best.
Al

Wait a minute here!!!!   Have I been given a lobotomy?  Is this Alex writing this, OR ME?!!!   Have I traveled back in time and taken over the mind of Alex (in a revolt of his brain cells), or has Alex evolved into me?   A planet where Alex evolves into Rory?  There's got to be an answer.  I better not look for it -- I may not like what I find!

Hey, guess what I did today?  I pre-ordered Burton's POTA on the net!!!   Pray for me, Alex!!!  I'm DEvolving!

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:58 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: REPLIES TO ALL

Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday dear Ki-im
Happy Birthday toooooo yooooooou
And many moooooooore

Others born today are...
Born on this date under the sign of of Scorpio:

French physicist Jacques Charles in 1746

Women's suffrage activist Elizabeth Cady Stanton in 1815

Baha'u'llah (born Mirza Husayn Ali), founder-prophet of the
Baha'i faith, in 1817

Retired Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun in 1908

Actress Kim Hunter in 1922 (age 78)

Princess Grace of Monaco, the former American movie star
Grace Kelly, in 1929

Actress Stephanie Powers in 1943 (age 58)

Rock musician Neil Young in 1945 (age 56)

Actress Megan Mullally in 1958 (age 43)

Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci in 1961 (age 40)

Actor David Schwimmer ("Friends") in 1966 (age 35)

Baseball player Sammy Sosa in 1968 (age 33)

Figure skater Tonya Harding in 1970 (age 31)



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Umm, wouldn't she be 79 today?

 

 

Chris L.

 

 

 

 

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:58:24 EST LordTZer0@... writes:

Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday dear Ki-im
Happy Birthday toooooo yooooooou
And many moooooooore

Others born today are...
Born on this date under the sign of of Scorpio:


Actress Kim Hunter in 1922 (age 78)

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 5:21 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: REPLIES TO ALL

I must have missed this somehow- could someone repost the link?

 

 

Chris L.

 

It's at www.planetoftheapes.com

 

Go to "About the Movie" then got to "Ape Insights".

Once there, click the center of the screen and then click "Thade's Plot" and Thade's Earth".

 

Then go to "Discuss" (message forum) and tell them how stupid the plot is.

 

Best.

Al

 

 

 

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