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Is it me or does the site freeze on anyone else?   JoAndra

It screwed up my computer and I had to just close out and get off-line.  To hell with that site.

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.htmlIn a message dated 11/12/01 5:43:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, prophecysite@... writes:

Although I don't mind it at all, the screenwriter for the sequel may use an even more brilliant idea (like yours) to use for the movie.

I sure hope so, because although the whole Conquest theory would be nice to see, remember that if it wasn't for nuclear war, Caesar wouldn't of had a snow balls chance in hell to rule the planet.

I just hope they're bright enough to know that.
This film has clearly gone from motion picture status, to comic book status. In a very cometic way.

Best.
Al

Hey Alex, where's your imagination?  While the genetically-enhanced apes are breeding like rabbits, a genetically-enhanced virus could have been accidentally released, wiping out masses of humans, creating a labor shortage that would require the apes to be put to work.  Into this world lands Thade, in a scene like the beginning of ESCAPE.  Sounds good to me.  I hope they get Tim Roth back to play it.  It could be a real hoot!

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.htmlIn a message dated 11/12/01 5:45:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, katand9@... writes:

please take me off your mail list

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:39 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: REPLIES TO ALL

In a message dated 11/12/01 5:43:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, prophecysite@... writes:

Although I don't mind it at all, the screenwriter for the sequel may use an even more brilliant idea (like yours) to use for the movie.

I sure hope so, because although the whole Conquest theory would be nice to see, remember that if it wasn't for nuclear war, Caesar wouldn't of had a snow balls chance in hell to rule the planet.

I just hope they're bright enough to know that.
This film has clearly gone from motion picture status, to comic book status. In a very cometic way.

Best.
Al

Hey Alex, where's your imagination?  While the genetically-enhanced apes are breeding like rabbits, a genetically-enhanced virus could have been accidentally released, wiping out masses of humans, creating a labor shortage that would require the apes to be put to work.  Into this world lands Thade, in a scene like the beginning of ESCAPE.  Sounds good to me.  I hope they get Tim Roth back to play it.  It could be a real hoot!

-- Rory

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 Maybe it's an alternate Earth with a set up more to Thade's advantage. The way they left off anything could happen, probably why they did it. They didn't have time to think about it while they made the movie.

                                                            - - - Jeff



Well, that's the way they did it the first time around.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:49 PM

Subject: [pota] Behind the Scenes

Hey Alex, where's your imagination?  While the genetically-enhanced apes are breeding like rabbits, a genetically-enhanced virus could have been accidentally released, wiping out masses of humans, creating a labor shortage that would require the apes to be put to work.  Into this world lands Thade, in a scene like the beginning of ESCAPE.  Sounds good to me.  I hope they get Tim Roth back to play it.  It could be a real hoot!

-- Rory

 

 

 

Well, like Mike, I hope your right.

Check out this behind the scenes of POTA 2001, (screen tests) I guess this will be on the DVD.

The music in the background is from Jerry Goldsmith himself. Original Planet of the Apes Score.

 

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/316064p1.html"

 

The options are 56K 100K and 300K

 

Enjoy the music.

That's all I did.

 

Best.

Al

 

 

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 That's some cool stuff. Too bad Alex hates the movie just before the DVD comes out.

It's a Madhouse!!!!  A world turned upside down, where Alex hates POTA 2001.  What I think is really going on is Alex is pissed that his "brilliant" theory wasn't adopted by Fox, and he proclaimed lord mayor of Ape City.  Of course, it seems Alex does like apes that much after all -- thinks they're not much better than monkeys.  Go figure!

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'THE HUMAN WARS'

Yeah, I just ordered one of those.  Thought I'd check it out.
I never got into the original ones, ezcept those in the magazine.
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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:19 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Behind the Scenes

Hey, Al.

Do you know the difference between an ape and a monkey?    Ape:  strong, fully built;
Monkey: tail, scrawny, thin built.   We apes take offense to being called a monkey.
JoAndra

 

Speak for yourself.

I'm not an ape nor a monkey.

 

Best.

Al

 

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From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:12 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Cool New Website

Yeah, I just ordered one of those.  Thought I'd check it out.
I never got into the original ones, ezcept those in the magazine.
Are they any good?

 

I think there great.

The story remians on Planet of the Apes and not Thade's earth. Although it would be fitting seeing that Thade's earth is at comic level.

 

Best.

Al

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 6:03 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Cool New Website

Not to make light of someone else's efforts, but . . .

Go the link on Extreme Fans and then the POTA 2003 Sequel.
A gal named Sylvia with a loose grasp of English has a wacky script idea.
It should drive Al nuts!

 

Nuts is not the word.

Ape is more like it.

It seems this person never read 'THE HUMAN WARS'. The comic book that follows the film decades later.

 

Comic Book?

There's that phrase again.

hehehe....

 

Best.

Al

 

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Jeff,

Could you please post the exact link because I can't find this info on
movieheadlines.com

Thanks,

Matt

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Jeff,

Could you please post the exact link because I can't find this info on
movieheadlines.com

Thanks,

Matt

Yeah, I couldn't find it either.  I think this is bogus!  Right, Alex?

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From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:25 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: "Apes" 2 is a go!

Yeah, I couldn't find it either.  I think this is bogus!  Right, Alex?

-- Rory

 

www.movieheadlines.net

 

it's .net not .com

 

Countdown here we come.

 

Will I countdown it?

A captain always goes down with his ship.

 

Best.

Al

 

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From: Artessatwork@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:27 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Behind the Scenes

Al,
Whom do you think we evolved from?
JoAndra

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From: Artessatwork@... [Artessatwork@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2001 7:40
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] birthday suit

How 'bout we all - who agree with this -  list our birthdays?
JoAndra   2/18/1964
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Jeff,

Could you please post the exact link because I can't find this info on
movieheadlines.com

Thanks,

Matt

Yeah, I couldn't find it either.  I think this is bogus!  Right, Alex?

-- Rory

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In a message dated 11/13/2001 11:43:27 AM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

  Boy, Alex, when you turn you really turn. Anakin Skywalker has nothing on you.                 - - - Jeff

Play the wav attachment Luke.

I'm lookin' but I'm not seein'.

How 'bout a link?

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>From: Artessatwork@...
>Subject: Re: Re: Behind the Scenes
>Whom do you think we evolved from?

Pre-humanoids, not apes. The theory of evolution doesn't say we evolved
from apes, despite what some people mistakenly quote it as saying. It says
we and apes evolved from the same beginnings, which is why we're so
amazingly close to them genetically.

>From: "Mike Le Master" <mslpel5@...>
>Subject: Re: Re: Behind the Scenes
>Adam and Eve

I wasn't aware Adam and Eve were supposed to have been less evolved than
modern man.

>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@...>
>Subject: Re: Behind the Scenes
>I don't know, I wasn't there.
>But if we see apes living with man side by side as we see now, then
>my question would be. "Why did we evolve and they didn't?"

They did, just as we did. We just evolved a little further along.

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In a message dated 11/13/01 11:51:25 AM Central Standard Time,
veetus@... writes:

<< Check out movieheadlines.com . They got it from Internet Movie Database.
It's a go for 2003. Zanuck says so. Get that script over there, Lord T! >>

Good, good! I'll have to start the camp-out. :)

-Joe

In a message dated 11/13/01 2:42:18 PM Central Standard Time,
Artessatwork@... writes:

<< How 'bout we all - who agree with this - list our birthdays?
JoAndra 2/18/1964 >>

Joe 9/30/1985

Well, I've been gone for 2 days, and you guys talk A LOT. I have to catch
up. ;)

-Joe

It's sad to here FOX's explanation about the ending. Alex, yours was much
better, seeing that it was thought through... I think FOX's explanation is
just the obvious, and that is very sad.

-Joe

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 Alright, alright. It's all a con. I called my good friend Richard Zanuck and told him to contact Internet Movie Database and tell them there's going to be a sequel. The truth is Rich (yeah, his friends call him Dick but his TRUE friends get to call him Rich) said Fox doesn't want a sequel because they felt the artistic integrity was compromised with the last one. In fact, the prez of Fox told Rich, "The originals are classics and I just can't compromise them any more. There's more important things than money". Instead Fox has announced a remake of "My Dinner With Andre". The truth is out there.

                                                        


Hey Jeff, why so touchy?   Don't you think it's a little early to assume this is true?  The Internet Moviebase as a source?  Anyone can give them misinformation.  I've had to correct them on several things, including Robert Gunner's credits.

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.htmlIn a message dated 11/13/01 3:29:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, Artessatwork@... writes:

Al,
Whom do you think we evolved from?
JoAndra

JoAndra,

If you mean to say we evolved from apes, that's not exactly true.  The orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees and man share a common ape-like ancestor, but man did not evolve from the great apes as we know them.   Jeff Krueger perhaps, but not us.  :)

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.htmlIn a message dated 11/13/01 3:30:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, mslpel5@... writes:

Adam and Eve

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Behind the Scenes


Al,
Whom do you think we evolved from?
JoAndra




Yes, Adam and Eve, two ape-like creatures who lived in a garden in Africa about 4 to 6 Million years ago.

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How 'bout we all - who agree with this -  list our birthdays?
JoAndra   2/18/1964

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.htmlIn a message dated 11/13/01 6:34:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, prophecysite@... writes:

Al,
Whom do you think we evolved from?
JoAndra

I don't know, I wasn't there.
But if we see apes living with man side by side as we see now, then my question would be.
"Why did we evolve and they didn't?"

Just being honest.

Best.
Al



Orangs, Chimps and Gorillas haven't evolved much in the last four million years for the very simple reason that they didn't need to.  They each found a comfortable niche and stayed there.  Man, metaphorically speaking, left the garden and evolved because it was that or die.  Life is tough.  By the way, evolution is not a theory -- it is a scientific fact.  It's only a theory as to how life forms evolved, which we may never totally know the truth about.

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.htmlIn a message dated 11/13/01 6:44:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, prophecysite@... writes:

I don't know, I wasn't there.
But if we see apes living with man side by side as we see now, then my question would be.
"Why did we evolve and they didn't?"

Just being honest.

Best.
Al


Or better yet.
Why is man the only animal that evolved to the level where he can build and create?

I mean after all, we all did begin as little specks in a great ocean, right?

There are just somethings evolution can't explain. And that is why it's called a 'theory'.

Best.
Al
  

Alex, for someone who's into POTA as much as you, you don't seem to like apes very much.  Why so little respect for them?  You think you're better than they are?  Do you really?

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.htmlIn a message dated 11/13/01 6:53:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, prophecysite@... writes:

Yeah,  you are right, Al.  I was thinking the same thing.  I guess they never evolved because they reached potential.   I'm not sure if Man will.
JoAndra

All I'm saying is that if deno lived for millions of years, and man has only lived for hundereds of thousands of years. (as they say)

How come man evolved higher than deno.
And that can also be said for every other animal on earth for that matter.

Why? because it's a theory, nothing more, nothing less.

And that's the last I'll speak on this subject, because in the end. No one was there, so no one really knows.

Best.
Al




Alex, I've rarely seen anyone as closed-minded and dismissive as you.  Modern Man has only been around for the last forty thousand years or so, but our human ancestors have walked this planet for over four million years.  Read a good book on the history of man, Al, like Richard E. Leakey's "Origins."

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Well, I've been gone for 2 days, and you guys talk A LOT.

Yeah, bet you wish it said more.

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In a message dated 11/13/2001 10:15:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, prophecysite@... writes:

Hey, All.
   
    Could we please get off the Revolution Road?  POTA means Planet of the Apes, not
    Picking up Old Times Again.
    JoAndra

Al?
Who's Al?
I'm Anakin. :o)

I fully agree, not only that but it's a pointless topic.

Best.
Anakin




    Anakin,  I said All [everone], not Al.
    JoAndra

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From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:28 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Behind the Scenes

In a message dated 11/13/01 6:34:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, prophecysite@... writes:

Al,
Whom do you think we evolved from?
JoAndra

I don't know, I wasn't there.
But if we see apes living with man side by side as we see now, then my question would be.
"Why did we evolve and they didn't?"

Just being honest.

Best.
Al

Orangs, Chimps and Gorillas haven't evolved much in the last four million years for the very simple reason that they didn't need to.  They each found a comfortable niche and stayed there.  Man, metaphorically speaking, left the garden and evolved because it was that or die.  Life is tough.  By the way, evolution is not a theory -- it is a scientific fact.  It's only a theory as to how life forms evolved, which we may never totally know the truth about.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:08 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: "Apes" 2 is a go!

In a message dated 11/13/01 3:20:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

 Alright, alright. It's all a con. I called my good friend Richard Zanuck and told him to contact Internet Movie Database and tell them there's going to be a sequel. The truth is Rich (yeah, his friends call him Dick but his TRUE friends get to call him Rich) said Fox doesn't want a sequel because they felt the artistic integrity was compromised with the last one. In fact, the prez of Fox told Rich, "The originals are classics and I just can't compromise them any more. There's more important things than money". Instead Fox has announced a remake of "My Dinner With Andre". The truth is out there.

                                                        

Hey Jeff, why so touchy?   Don't you think it's a little early to assume this is true?  The Internet Moviebase as a source?  Anyone can give them misinformation.  I've had to correct them on several things, including Robert Gunner's credits.

-- Rory

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From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:13 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Behind the Scenes

In a message dated 11/13/01 3:29:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, Artessatwork@... writes:

Al,
Whom do you think we evolved from?
JoAndra

JoAndra,

If you mean to say we evolved from apes, that's not exactly true.  The orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees and man share a common ape-like ancestor, but man did not evolve from the great apes as we know them.   Jeff Krueger perhaps, but not us.  :)

-- Rory

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:16 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] birthday suit

In a message dated 11/13/01 3:42:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, Artessatwork@... writes:

How 'bout we all - who agree with this -  list our birthdays?
JoAndra   2/18/1964

Rory  6/22/1959   I'm the old-fart of the group!   I've also been a POTA fan the longest, so there!!

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----- Original Message -----

From: Artessatwork@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:17 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Evolution Revolution

In a message dated 11/13/2001 10:15:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, prophecysite@... writes:

Hey, All.
   
    Could we please get off the Revolution Road?  POTA means Planet of the Apes, not
    Picking up Old Times Again.
    JoAndra

Al?
Who's Al?
I'm Anakin. :o)

I fully agree, not only that but it's a pointless topic.

Best.
Anakin

    Anakin,  I said All [everone], not Al.
    JoAndra

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In a message dated 11/13/2001 10:34:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

I'll meet you partway: Jeff   11/08/6?

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] birthday suit

In a message dated 11/13/01 3:42:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, Artessatwork@... writes:

How 'bout we all - who agree with this -  list our birthdays?
JoAndra   2/18/1964

Rory  6/22/1959   I'm the old-fart of the group!   I've also been a POTA fan the longest, so there!!

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    Fine,  Jeff.     That'll work.  Thanx,
    JoAndra

In a message dated 11/13/2001 10:34:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

  I am certainly not ashamed to be the spawn of an ape. Some of my favorite actors are apes.

                                                           - - - Jeff



      I'm totally w/ U, Jeff.
      JoAndra

In a message dated 11/13/2001 10:40:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

JoAndra - - -

Is Artess STILL at work?

                                                         - - - - Jeff


     Yes, as a matter of fact, I am.    Well,  sort of.

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:42 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Evolution Revolution

In a message dated 11/13/2001 10:40:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

JoAndra - - -

Is Artess STILL at work?

                                                         - - - - Jeff

     Yes, as a matter of fact, I am.    Well,  sort of.

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From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:44 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Evolution Revolution

Yeah, and yet we evolved from the same sourse.

On the one hand . . .

We are stardust
We are golden
And we've got to get ourselves back to the garden

                                                             ~~CSN~~~
But on the other hand . . .

''Man has not evolved one inch from the slime that spawned him''.

                ~~Mark Blankfield Jekyll and Hyde Together Again~~~













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.: What? You want me to say something about evolution again?

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:03 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] 34rth Anniversary

In a message dated 11/13/2001 10:51:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

.: What? You want me to say something about evolution again?

     O, please don't.   Let's move to the future.   Say, 3955?

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I'll meet you partway: Jeff   11/08/6?

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I'll meet you partway: Jeff   11/08/6?

Yeah, here ya go . . . 0?/??/6?



    O, yeah, big help.  Tho' I respect your privacy, Lord.
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  Hey! Get back to work on that script. Zanuck needs it soon.

Hey!  I have a silent 16 mm proj due on the 19th and then a group sound sync proj due by Dec. 10th.  Then I have to find someone who actually knows the guy, so . . .
Despite what you may have heard to the contrary, it is who you know and not what you know that counts in Hollywood.  Some of the films they've released lately should convince you of that.  Buy unlike T Burton, T Zero will - Not - be - rushed!

                   "Shuuuut Uuuup!  You'll get words when I want to give 'em to you!"
       ~~Bill Murray, as HST, to the Mojo Wire in Where The Buffalo Roam~~~

In the information age anonymity is the new frontier.
Remember The Residents theory of obscurity.
Many people don't even know that The Ex-Cops and Gwar are the same band!
They get paid twice for the same show! Nice work if you can get it.

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Michael 25th August 1965.

I'm not into the whole idea of making private info public.
You'll note that in the POTA book my full name isn't given.
On a lighter note, Michael, I think I found a web site with the POTA Soapers sponges.  I'll try and contact them ans if they have some in stock I'll let ya know.



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We all know that "Apes" is the current record holder for three day
non-holiday weekend. But what's to become of it's record this weekend when
Harry Potter comes to town? It's opening on the most screens ever (7,000)
and people are predicting it will not only topple "Apes" but the all time
record holder "Jurassic Park 2". Please, enjoy it while you can. Call a
friend and say, "Did you know 'Planet of the Apes' had the biggest
non-holiday opening ever?" You'll be glad you did. Darkness is almost upon
us. - - - Jeff

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Digest Number 787


> >From: Artessatwork@...
> >Subject: Re: Re: Behind the Scenes
> >Whom do you think we evolved from?
>
> Pre-humanoids, not apes. The theory of evolution doesn't say we evolved
> from apes, despite what some people mistakenly quote it as saying. It
says
> we and apes evolved from the same beginnings, which is why we're so
> amazingly close to them genetically.
>
> >From: "Mike Le Master" <mslpel5@...>
> >Subject: Re: Re: Behind the Scenes
> >Adam and Eve
>
> I wasn't aware Adam and Eve were supposed to have been less evolved than
> modern man.
>
> >From: "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@...>
> >Subject: Re: Behind the Scenes
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We all know that "Apes" is the current record holder for three day
non-holiday weekend. But what's to become of it's record this weekend when
Harry Potter comes to town?

It' Evil, Eeeeeeeeeeeviiiiiiiiil
~~ Grandpa Simpson~~~

Well, we had it for a few months there. At least, when we fall they'll have
to mention us once more. I think even Titanic's record will sink after this
media blitz. The good news is most of the little bastards can't drive. The
bad news is a lot of them will have a parent take them. So that's double the
ticket sales right off the bat. Just like Tenacious D it's . . . FUELED BY
SATAN!

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:22 PM

Subject: [pota] POTA 2?

Well, I haven't seen anywhere else on the web any news of a POTA 2, so I guess it's still wait and see time.

-- Rory

 

 

 I think it could be true.

Because way back when epiosode 1 was being created, there was word that episode 2 would be coming out in 2003. That's why you see that after my countdown was finished, I went ahead with countdown to 2003.

 

But then removed it because no official word was ever given. Just news on the web way back then.

But if it is 2003, I would think that they would give word by now. Just to build up the hype for those who want to learn how exactly Thade ruled the planet.

 

Best.

Al

 

 

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The "Apes" record is already getting mentioned. I saw it today in the
trades and movieheadlines.net (actually, that's what made me think of it. He
he he ). But if by some fluke of nature "Harry Potter" doesn't do as well as
they expect, "Apes" record will be that much more impressive (like "Star
Wars" Ep. 1 not beating "Titanic").

The review for the TV show DVDs is up at www.dvdfile.com . This guy didn't
like the show but thought the disc quality was fine. Compared Virdon and
Burke to Bo and Luke Duke - - - I'd always heard Starsky and Hutch. Either
way, V and B predate all of them! - - - Jeff

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From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Alas!


> We all know that "Apes" is the current record holder for three day
> non-holiday weekend. But what's to become of it's record this weekend when
> Harry Potter comes to town?
>
> It' Evil, Eeeeeeeeeeeviiiiiiiiil
> ~~ Grandpa Simpson~~~
>
> Well, we had it for a few months there. At least, when we fall they'll
have
> to mention us once more. I think even Titanic's record will sink after
this
> media blitz. The good news is most of the little bastards can't drive.
The
> bad news is a lot of them will have a parent take them. So that's double
the
> ticket sales right off the bat. Just like Tenacious D it's . . . FUELED
BY
> SATAN!
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I recently purchased (from SCRIPTCITY) the screenplays for PLANET,
BENEATH (i.e. POTA REVISITED), ESCAPE and BATTLE (and about 8 of the
14 TV episodes)--but they don't carry the screenplay of CONQUEST for
some reason. I know that Eric Greene had access to a copy for his book
POTA AS AMERICAN MYTH (since he quotes directly from the screenplay),
but I don't quite know how to go about acquiring a copy. Does anybody
have a suggestion? SCRIPTCITY charges around $15 per script; if anyone
happens to have a copy (and, since it isn't currently being printed
anywhere, I assume the 'copyright' laws wouldn't kick in if someone
were to mail me a photocopied version in exchange for $15...?). If
whoever owns the copyright is reading this, hey, please drop me a line
at the address below, and sell me a copy!
PATRICK MICHAEL TILTON
1206 2nd St. E. #36
West Fargo, ND 58078
Perhaps Mr. Greene himself has information regarding my possible
acquisition of said CONQUEST script? If so, please post here, or send
me a postcard.
P.S. I loved your book, Eric. Also agreed wholeheartedly with your
critique of Burton's "re-imagining".

I never really thought about trying to aquire the Conquest script. In fact I
only recently notice that my Escape script is missing the last scenes.

Hey Al,

Whatever happened to the chat shows ape tape?
Will that be a DVD now?

I'm the guy who posted about the CONQUEST script. For those of you
who have APESFAN #2, I'm the guy who wrote an article for it entitled
"A Chronology of the POTA". For those of you who are interested, I
posted a number of times on a POTA/"ANSA" website (type in "ANSA",
"Hasslein" and "Icarus" on a Lycos search engine, and you'll find it),
doing my best to explain my scenario for "un-flubbing the flubs" of
POTA chronology (the guy who runs that website and I, well, we
vehemently disagree, to put it mildly).
I've been working on a POTA novel project for a number of years
(being a POTA fan from way back); I wanted to tell one humongous story
that uses all the filmed POTA movies & TV episodes as "canon",
basically novelizing PLANET and its 4 movie sequels as well as all 14
TV episodes (of course, this involves RE-adaptation: the existing
novelizations take liberties with their sources, and what appears on
screen is often not what we read in Avallone's BENEATH book, etc.).
The major hurdle for this project of mine was to find a way to
explain how Taylor could see his EARTH-TIME clock read 11-25-3978
after landing--yet Brent (and the "Ape-onauts") see it reading the
year 3955.
The bitter truth is that Paul Dehn flubbed. However...
Taking the chronological info from the TV series, I noticed that
Virdon's ship's EARTH-TIME clock clicks ahead from 08-19-1980 (19
August 1980) to 07-14-3085 (14 July 3085) in the opening credit
sequence... and yet the day after their landing (and also more than a
week later, at the episode's end) Virdon & Burke see the EARTH-TIME
clock frozen on the date 03-21-3085 (21 March 3085), which is 115
days EARLIER than the date given for the Time Warp from Present-to-
Future.
Since this Time Warp occurs when they approach Alpha Centauri, that
means that they also managed to be zipped along back to Earth 4.34
LightYears (after Jones activates the "Emergency Homing Device" that
Virdon tells Burke he'd ordered him to do).
By a happy coincidence, the ratio of "retro-temporal" time Virdon's
ship experiences (115 "retro-days") to Distance in LightYears
traveled (4.34) just so happens to match what Taylor's ship
experiences: Taylor tells Landon & Dodge that they were (as far as he
knew & believed) "320 LightYears from Earth on an unnamed planet in
orbit around a star in the constellation of Orion". Divide 320 by 4.34
and then multiply by 115 and you get 8479.26 "retro-days". Divide
8479.26 by 365.2422 and you get 23.215 "retro-years". Since noon of 25
November 3978 (a 365-day year) is exactly 9/10ths through the year,
subtract 23.215 from 3978.90 and you get 3955.685! In other words, if
the same sort of thing that happens to Virdon's ship (zipping "x"
number of LightYears in "y" number of "retro-temporal days") also
happens to Taylor's ship, then the actual EARTH-TIME date that Taylor
arrives is about the 251st day of 3955. Assuming, of course, that
Taylor's ship's EARTH-TIME clock fails to register the "back-thru-
time" jump it nonetheless experiences.
Anyway, when I happened to discover that convenient coincidence, I
proceeded to weave a scenario around it, and I'm using it in my on-
going magnum opus (I'm calling it "DESTINY OF THE PLANET OF THE
APES"). As I've said, the guy running the website mentioned above (he
calls himself "Ansanaut") disagrees with my scenario. Quite frankly,
he believes things about the APES series that are patently ridiculous
(he thinks that the stars Taylor sees out the front window of his
ship in PLANET's opening scene aren't stars at all; he also thinks
that Taylor's mission was to Alpha Centauri--which isn't referenced
anywhere in the film, of course!).
Anyhow, I've been waiting 27 friggin' years for the TV show to be
released UN-CUT, and this up-coming DVD release is none too soon. I
want my novel to have all the details that were presented on screen,
and whatever details exist that are (or seem to be) flubs... well,
it's my modus operandi to "un-flub" them!
It's going to be a long book, and it'll take a long time for me to
finish it, and there's no guarantee I'll be given the rights to
publish it... but if I do get it published, I hope all you other POTA
fans out there will like it.
Mr. "Ansanaut" might not like it (I don't think he particularly likes
ME!), but I'm not writing it for him. I'm writing it for me.
And, no, I'm not going to try to reconcile Burton's "re-imagining"
and the cartoon show "RETURN..." to the original live-action stuff. I
don't know about you, but the "new" movie was about as good (compared
to the original) as Ralph Fiennes' "The Avengers" was (compared to
the original series)...!
Ecch!

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