RE:  this thing about picking Mark Wahlburg, Charleton Heston or James Franciscus:

When I first got a vcr I got the original POTA movie and my girlfriends and I "paused" all the fanny shots and the flapping loin cloth shots.  We had a good time (sigh). I loved Chuck Heston and not for his brain.  But there again, Mark W. looks pretty good to me.  James is all right, but he was a wimp.  

I am setting myself up for a lot of 'cracks' in this group, but am feeling fearless today :)

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 6:46 PM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Check out MapQuest: Maps

Click here: MapQuest: Maps

Okay, folks, this is the best I can do.  I hope clicking on what I'm sending gets you to what I'm looking at.  One of you guys with better computer skills than me can turn it sideways, blow it up a little, and put it next to Cornelius's map.  I hope anyway.

I know know this won't change any minds, but what the hell.

-- Rory

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--- In pota@y..., LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> > If NBC had known then how many guys were watching the show thay never would
> > have cancelled.
>
> Oh they knew. And there were all kinds of protests and letters. But the guy
> at NBC didn't care. His wife wanted to watch Gunsmoke. And that was that.

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 2/27/02 3:04:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> agnosticdragon@y... writes:
>
>
> > I may be beating a dead horse here but these key points seem to indicate
> > these maps are of the same area.
> >
> > [Unable to display image]
> >
> >
> > Just my 2 cents worth. (OK, maybe more like 1.5 cents worth. :o)
> >
> > ThyPentacle
>
> I think even James would agree that Cornelius'map is showing an area much
> larger than the greater New York City area.
>
> Why don't you try the same thing with Chesapeake Bay?
>
> -- Rory

--- In pota@y..., "ThyPentacle" <agnosticdragon@y...> wrote:
> Hope this is sufficient. :o)
>
>
>
> ThyPentacle
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Haristas@a...
> To: pota@y...
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 6:46 PM
> Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Check out MapQuest: Maps
>
>
> Click here: MapQuest: Maps
>
> Okay, folks, this is the best I can do. I hope clicking on what I'm sending gets you to what I'm looking at. One of you guys with better computer skills than me can turn it sideways, blow it up a little, and put it next to Cornelius's map. I hope anyway.
>
> I know know this won't change any minds, but what the hell.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:55 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Ape hair style

I think Lolo's hair looks fine. You have to keep in mind that she's an ape of
course. I think you guys are basing your hair-style judgment on humans a
little too much. Ape hair is a bit different than human hair.

No no no no no.  That is not what I'm saying.  Sure, there are some chimps
with longer hair.  Binobos come to mind . . . But, what I'm taking about, and
what other's have said as well is this Janet Jackson thing.  Other's have
said, and quite rightly I think, that Burton has this kind of Edward
Scissorhands / Robert Smith looking characters running through his films and
that's where it came from.  But I like Zira's hair style.  It's perfect for
female chimps.  It has nothing to do with humans hair.  As far as Ape Hair
goes no ape has bangs.  So if Zira's hair seems a little long in back for and
ape then Ari's is too long in front.  And Nova's (ape) is just too long
period.


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--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 2/27/02 8:05:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> calima5021com@m... writes:
>
>
> > Well, the Fobidden Zone is the New York area (in my opinion)
> > with the Jersey Apes living in the east.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best.
> > Al
>
> So, you think the apes live in New Jersey in BENEATH? Well, now we have to
> get ThyPentacle to capture that matte painting of a ruined Manhattan shown in
> BENEATH so you guys can see that the apes march on the city from the east!
> Putting their city on Long Island! Oh, BENEATH is a mess!
>
> -- Rory

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 2/27/02 8:17:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@a... writes:
>
>
> > Thanks. Now that I see Cornelius' map sideways, I can see it's impossible
> > that it's the Cheasapeke Bay area. If it were then the rivers would be
> > flowing south to north.
> >
> >
>
> Rivers flow downhill to the ocean. Nice try, but you hang in there. Hey,
> I'm not trying to change your mind.
>
> -- Rory

--- In pota@y..., "Sammo Law" <sammo_of_borg@h...> wrote:
>

--- In pota@y..., "Calima 5021" <calima5021com@m...> wrote:
>
> Now I'm not sure if they lived in Jersey or Ney York?
> Check out this snap shot of a deleted scene from the original Planet of the
> Apes.
>
> I guess it will remain as another timeless POTA question, like circle
> timeline or not.
>
> Oh, well.
> Enjoy.
>
> Best.
> Al
>
>
>
> _____

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> Let's not fight.
>
> -- Rory

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 2/27/02 9:11:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> calima5021com@m... writes:
>
>
> > Now I'm not sure if they lived in Jersey or Ney York?
> >
> >
> > I guess it will remain as another timeless POTA question, like circle
> > timeline or not.
> >
> > Oh, well.
> >
> >
> > Best.
> > Al
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Oh, wait a minute.... The Ursus did have a trace of Brooklyn accent. Some
> areas in Brooklyn kind of already look like the Planet of the Apes (if you
> know what I mean), don't they, James?
>
> THIS IS A JOKE, OF COURSE!!!
>
> -- Rory

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 2/27/02 8:17:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@a... writes:
>
>
> > Thanks. Now that I see Cornelius' map sideways, I can see it's impossible
> > that it's the Cheasapeke Bay area. If it were then the rivers would be
> > flowing south to north.
> >
> >
>
> Rivers flow downhill to the ocean. Nice try, but you hang in there. Hey,
> I'm not trying to change your mind.
>
> -- Rory

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Ape hair style


> I think Lolo's hair looks fine. You have to keep in mind that she's an ape
of
> course. I think you guys are basing your hair-style judgment on humans a
> little too much. Ape hair is a bit different than human hair.
>
> No no no no no. That is not what I'm saying. Sure, there are some chimps
> with longer hair. Binobos come to mind . . . But, what I'm taking about,
and
> what other's have said as well is this Janet Jackson thing. Other's have
> said, and quite rightly I think, that Burton has this kind of Edward
> Scissorhands / Robert Smith looking characters running through his films
and
> that's where it came from. But I like Zira's hair style. It's perfect
for
> female chimps. It has nothing to do with humans hair. As far as Ape Hair
> goes no ape has bangs. So if Zira's hair seems a little long in back for
and
> ape then Ari's is too long in front. And Nova's (ape) is just too long
> period.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:58 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OH YEAH BABY!! [OT]

If NBC had known then how many guys were watching the show thay never would have cancelled.

Oh they knew.  And there were all kinds of protests and letters.  But the guy at NBC didn't care.  His wife wanted to watch Gunsmoke.  And that was that.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Calima 5021" <calima5021com@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:02 PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Fobidden Zone is the New York Area


>
> Well, the Fobidden Zone is the New York area (in my opinion)
> with the Jersey Apes living in the east.
>
> Here's another side by side pic.
>
> Best.
> Al
>
>
>
> _____

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:18 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Fobidden Zone is the New York Area

In a message dated 2/27/02 8:05:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, calima5021com@... writes:

Well, the Fobidden Zone is the New York area (in my opinion)
with the Jersey Apes living in the east.



Best.
Al

So, you think the apes live in New Jersey in BENEATH?  Well, now we have to get ThyPentacle to capture that matte painting of a ruined Manhattan shown in BENEATH so you guys can see that the apes march on the city from the east!  Putting their city on Long Island!   Oh, BENEATH is a mess!

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Eileen Rankin

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:32 AM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Nova or Deana?

I have to put my 2 cents in here, even if I'm not a guy.  All the female apes looked good, with the exception of Thade's sister.  It was her who was having a bad hair day.  Why did the females all look much more human than their male counterparts?  So we didn't get offended by the hinted attraction between Leo and Ari?  As for Daena!  Don't get me started!!!!!!!  All the other humans had looked dirty and greasy, yet her hair looked like she just left the salon.  Did you catch when she reached up and touched Leo's face towards the end?  "You came...."  There was some dirt on her hand but the fingernails were perfectly manicured.  The closeups on her face... the dumb looks... guess they were supposed to reflect innocence?  If she had anymore collagen injections into her lips... her face would've prolly exploded!

 

Guess the movie was trully male oriented, because they managed to sneak in yet another stereotypical blonde.  Kinda makes me glad I'm a brunette!!!!!

 

Eileen

 

----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:24 PM

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Nova or Deana?

 

Hehe. She looks cute to me. I think she's as cute as Ari actually. Wish they would have given her character some more screen time, but Tiffany Smith, who played the part BTW, did a good job in her little role.

I don't care for that hair style.  But then again I thought all the chimpettes had bad hair.  Many didn't like their makeup (they really should have done something with Leeta's awful lower jaw, and Lisa Marie's teeth!), but that hair!  All wrong.  Ari's hair was okay in some of the publicity photo's But it was usually a windswept mass in the film.  And speaking of Nova and Daena, Nova had a wild, primitive sort of beauty.  Deana was running through jungles and deserts looking like a super model in a Conan movie.  I've heard more than one critic ask, where'd she get the lip gloss?
Perhaps it was rendered wild boar fat?  Hey, if Leo's beard never grows, why not?

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>>

--- In pota@y..., <veetus@e...> wrote:
> That "guy" (William Paley, Mr. Paley to you) was also the arch enemy of the "Apes" TV show and hated having an "ape" show on his network; probably never saw it. Even if the ratings were decent he probably would've scuttled it. - - - Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: LordTZer0@A...
> To: pota@y...
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OH YEAH BABY!! [OT]
>
>
>
>
> If NBC had known then how many guys were watching the show thay never would have cancelled.
>
>
> Oh they knew. And there were all kinds of protests and letters. But the guy at NBC didn't care. His wife wanted to watch Gunsmoke. And that was that.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

>>

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 2/27/02 11:18:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> veetus@e... writes:
>
>
> > Maybe they took the long way. - - - Jeff
> >
> >
>
> Yeah, the long way around, through the Bronx. Maybe they stayed overnight at
> Fort Apache. Maybe monkeys will fly out of my butt.
>
> Look, if you watch BENEATH, as James will attest, the gorilla army marches
> from Ape City to the subways of New York in about a total movie running time
> of four minutes, therefore the two must be close together, and Brent leaves
> one of the green belts and rightaway finds Queensboro Plaza then only walks
> down a subway for two minutes is is under Manhattan. What out proof do you
> need that Ape City in BENEATH is on Long Island. Probably Hempstead.
>
> Gee, can't you guys figure out anything?!!!
>
> -- Rory

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:29 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Fobidden Zone is the New York Area

In a message dated 2/27/02 11:18:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

  Maybe they took the long way.              - - - Jeff

Yeah, the long way around, through the Bronx.  Maybe they stayed overnight at Fort Apache.  Maybe monkeys will fly out of my butt.

Look, if you watch BENEATH, as James will attest, the gorilla army marches from Ape City to the subways of New York in about a total movie running time of four minutes, therefore the two must be close together, and Brent leaves one of the green belts and rightaway finds Queensboro Plaza then only walks down a subway for two minutes is is under Manhattan.  What out proof do you need that Ape City in BENEATH is on Long Island.  Probably Hempstead.

Gee, can't you guys figure out anything?!!!

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:39 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Nova or Deana?

In a message dated 2/27/02 11:23:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

  On the other hand, the Flintstones had lip stick and had their hair done. That's a scientific fact! Just because they're primitive doesn't mean they have to be barbaric.                                               - - - Jeff

I think you got something there, Jeff, other 'ol' buddy.'  Here's something else we should all debate:  What did the apes wipe their asses with?  They had guns, medical instruments, high-pressure hoses, clearly they must have also had toilet paper -- "They couldn't have all been morons."    Now.... agreeing that they had such paper to wipe their asses, were they folders or crunchers?  I vote Chimps folders, Gorillas crunchers, and the Orangs got the gorillas to wipe their asses.  Okay, let's debate!

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----
From: "james611102" <JamesA1102@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OH YEAH BABY!! [OT]


> Actually, Paley was the champion of the POTA series. It was Fred
Silverman, who was then CBS' Head of Programming, that hated having the POTA
series forced on him. He was the one that moved the show at the last minute
from the originally intended time slot of Tuesday at 8 to the death slot on
Friday.
>
> --- In pota@y..., <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > That "guy" (William Paley, Mr. Paley to you) was also the arch enemy
of the "Apes" TV show and hated having an "ape" show on his network;
probably never saw it. Even if the ratings were decent he probably would've
scuttled it. - - - Jeff
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: LordTZer0@A...
> > To: pota@y...
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OH YEAH BABY!! [OT]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If NBC had known then how many guys were watching the show thay
never would have cancelled.
> >
> >
> > Oh they knew. And there were all kinds of protests and letters. But
the guy at NBC didn't care. His wife wanted to watch Gunsmoke. And that
was that.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In pota@y..., <veetus@e...> wrote:
> No, no, no it was Paley. He was cantankerous. He said, "I won't have any
> "ape" show on my network". Then he said, " There is only the original and
> that's it. The rest are sequels to "Beneath". And I won't have any sequels
> to "Beneath" on my network!" - - -
> Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "james611102" <JamesA1102@a...>
> To: <pota@y...>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OH YEAH BABY!! [OT]
>
>
> > Actually, Paley was the champion of the POTA series. It was Fred
> Silverman, who was then CBS' Head of Programming, that hated having the POTA
> series forced on him. He was the one that moved the show at the last minute
> from the originally intended time slot of Tuesday at 8 to the death slot on
> Friday.
> >
> > --- In pota@y..., <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > > That "guy" (William Paley, Mr. Paley to you) was also the arch enemy
> of the "Apes" TV show and hated having an "ape" show on his network;
> probably never saw it. Even if the ratings were decent he probably would've
> scuttled it. - - - Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: LordTZer0@A...
> > > To: pota@y...
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:58 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OH YEAH BABY!! [OT]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If NBC had known then how many guys were watching the show thay
> never would have cancelled.
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh they knew. And there were all kinds of protests and letters. But
> the guy at NBC didn't care. His wife wanted to watch Gunsmoke. And that
> was that.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

>From: "james611102" <JamesA1102@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Fobidden Zone is the New York Area
>Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 04:55:41 -0000
>

--- In pota@y..., LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> > Gunsmoke was on CBS, T!
>
> Sorry, that was Gilligans Island.

----- Original Message -----
From: "james611102" <JamesA1102@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OH YEAH BABY!! [OT]


> Well that's not the story I heard when I worked at CBS. And the one time I
met Paley he was very gracious.
>
> --- In pota@y..., <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > No, no, no it was Paley. He was cantankerous. He said, "I won't have
any
> > "ape" show on my network". Then he said, " There is only the original
and
> > that's it. The rest are sequels to "Beneath". And I won't have any
sequels
> > to "Beneath" on my
network!" - - -
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "james611102" <JamesA1102@a...>
> > To: <pota@y...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OH YEAH BABY!! [OT]
> >
> >
> > > Actually, Paley was the champion of the POTA series. It was Fred
> > Silverman, who was then CBS' Head of Programming, that hated having the
POTA
> > series forced on him. He was the one that moved the show at the last
minute
> > from the originally intended time slot of Tuesday at 8 to the death slot
on
> > Friday.
> > >
> > > --- In pota@y..., <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > > > That "guy" (William Paley, Mr. Paley to you) was also the arch
enemy
> > of the "Apes" TV show and hated having an "ape" show on his network;
> > probably never saw it. Even if the ratings were decent he probably
would've
> > scuttled it. - - - Jeff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: LordTZer0@A...
> > > > To: pota@y...
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:58 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OH YEAH BABY!! [OT]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If NBC had known then how many guys were watching the show thay
> > never would have cancelled.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh they knew. And there were all kinds of protests and letters.
But
> > the guy at NBC didn't care. His wife wanted to watch Gunsmoke. And
that
> > was that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > >
> > >
>
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>

----- Original Message -----

From: CheeseGOTAS@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:47 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Nova or Deana?

In a message dated 2/27/02 10:41:24 PM Central Standard Time,
Haristas@... writes:

<< What did the apes wipe their asses with?  They
had guns, medical instruments, high-pressure hoses, clearly they must have
also had toilet paper -- "They couldn't have all been morons."    Now....
agreeing that they had such paper to wipe their asses, were they folders or
crunchers?  I vote Chimps folders, Gorillas crunchers, and the Orangs got
the
gorillas to wipe their asses.  Okay, let's debate!

-- Rory
  >>

<<Ahem...

Wouldn't it get stuck in all that hair?

-Joe>>

 

 

 

They don't have hair in that particular area. I think. I really don't have an ape to bend over and look at to be sure. :o)

 

ThyPentacle

----- Original Message -----

From: veetus@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:05 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Ape hair style

  I have a problem with the nostrils on the Burton chimps. They don't look
right. Maybe the nostrils on the original chimps aren't anatomically
correct, but they look natural.                                 - - - Jeff


----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Ape hair style


> I think Lolo's hair looks fine. You have to keep in mind that she's an ape
of
> course. I think you guys are basing your hair-style judgment on humans a
> little too much. Ape hair is a bit different than human hair.
>
> No no no no no.  That is not what I'm saying.  Sure, there are some chimps
> with longer hair.  Binobos come to mind . . . But, what I'm taking about,
and
> what other's have said as well is this Janet Jackson thing.  Other's have
> said, and quite rightly I think, that Burton has this kind of Edward
> Scissorhands / Robert Smith looking characters running through his films
and
> that's where it came from.  But I like Zira's hair style.  It's perfect
for
> female chimps.  It has nothing to do with humans hair.  As far as Ape Hair
> goes no ape has bangs.  So if Zira's hair seems a little long in back for
and
> ape then Ari's is too long in front.  And Nova's (ape) is just too long
> period.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 2/27/02 10:55:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@a... writes:
>
>
> > Name one river in the Northern Hemisphere that runs South to North.
> >
> >
>
> I think the Oder River between Germany and Poland runs north in Europe. In
> North America, the Red River of the North, between North Dakota and
> Minnesota, runs north into Canada and Lake Winnipeg.
>
> -- Rory

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:36 AM

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Economy vs Deluxe Display Busts

 

Hey Rory,

No reason to dispair.
We developed the ECONOMY versions for folks who can't swing the higher price tags of the DELUXE busts.
The Econs still look good; take a look at the APE-O-NAUT versions (enclosed).  They still are impressive conversation pieces, for a fraction of the cost of the DELUXE busts.
And there's always Ebay.   We fix up the less than perfect castings and put them up for auction from time to time, so you might get lucky sometime.  Who knows?

B

Haristas@... wrote:

The problem is I want the deluxe version, but $2,250?!!!  Too steep for me!  Hell, if I had that kind of money to spend on this stuff I'd have bought the Lawgiver courtroom bust from you guys long ago.

-- Rory

--- In pota@y..., <veetus@e...> wrote:
> I think Roddy mentioned Paley in the documentary and the "no "ape" show on
> my network" was quoted by Mark Lenard in the POTA mag. But if you actually
> talked to Paley about it I would have to defer to
> - - - Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "james611102" <JamesA1102@a...>
> To: <pota@y...>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OH YEAH BABY!! [OT]
>
>
> > Well that's not the story I heard when I worked at CBS. And the one time I
> met Paley he was very gracious.
> >
> > --- In pota@y..., <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > > No, no, no it was Paley. He was cantankerous. He said, "I won't have
> any
> > > "ape" show on my network". Then he said, " There is only the original
> and
> > > that's it. The rest are sequels to "Beneath". And I won't have any
> sequels
> > > to "Beneath" on my
> network!" - - -
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "james611102" <JamesA1102@a...>
> > > To: <pota@y...>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:42 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OH YEAH BABY!! [OT]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Actually, Paley was the champion of the POTA series. It was Fred
> > > Silverman, who was then CBS' Head of Programming, that hated having the
> POTA
> > > series forced on him. He was the one that moved the show at the last
> minute
> > > from the originally intended time slot of Tuesday at 8 to the death slot
> on
> > > Friday.
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@y..., <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > > > > That "guy" (William Paley, Mr. Paley to you) was also the arch
> enemy
> > > of the "Apes" TV show and hated having an "ape" show on his network;
> > > probably never saw it. Even if the ratings were decent he probably
> would've
> > > scuttled it. - - - Jeff
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: LordTZer0@A...
> > > > > To: pota@y...
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> > > > > Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OH YEAH BABY!! [OT]
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> > > > > If NBC had known then how many guys were watching the show thay
> > > never would have cancelled.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh they knew. And there were all kinds of protests and letters.
> But
> > > the guy at NBC didn't care. His wife wanted to watch Gunsmoke. And
> that
> > > was that.
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> > > > >
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>>

> I'm thinking Mr. Tilton needs to weigh in on this one. Do apes in

> Well, I think that just the fact that the forbidden zone is desert,

> had to be some sort of land shift. I mean after all, the trek of

> Dodge and Landon aross the forbidden zone was not just nuclear

> (if that was the case), but also clearly, MOUNTAINS, HUGE

> are not in New York nor Verginia. So clearly land masses did shift.

> does explain map differance between now and then.
>
> In the words of Elvis.
> "Thank you very muuuch'.
>
> But on the other hand, that would bring us right back to square one

> it. For it would suit both Verginia and New York Map Theories.
>
> I'm not helping am I :o)
>
> Best.
> Al

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:21 PM

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Beneath the Planet of the Maps

 

In a message dated 2/27/02 8:50:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

OK Than name one major river in North America  that runs south to north.

Of course, there isn't one, but wasn't it you, sir, who once mentioned 'topographical shifts' to help explain how things can be in different places in 3955?   Come on, James ol' buddy, fair is fair!
Let's not fight.

-- Rory

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 6:31 PM

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] For the Girls

 

In a message dated 2/27/02 4:17:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, emr1623@... writes:

I remember the name... can't see the face tho.  They're all too old now anyway.

James Franciscus is dead.

Brian

Eileen Rankin wrote:

 The workmanship is really impressive! Eileen 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:36 AM

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Economy vs Deluxe Display Busts

 Hey Rory,

No reason to dispair.
We developed the ECONOMY versions for folks who can't swing the higher price tags of the DELUXE busts.
The Econs still look good; take a look at the APE-O-NAUT versions (enclosed).  They still are impressive conversation pieces, for a fraction of the cost of the DELUXE busts.
And there's always Ebay.   We fix up the less than perfect castings and put them up for auction from time to time, so you might get lucky sometime.  Who knows?

B

Haristas@... wrote:

The problem is I want the deluxe version, but $2,250?!!!  Too steep for me!  Hell, if I had that kind of money to spend on this stuff I'd have bought the Lawgiver courtroom bust from you guys long ago.

-- Rory

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--- In pota@y..., "brentdrew2002" <brentg@g...> wrote:
> Greetings ....I was watching the opening sequences of The Planet Of
> The Apes last night in beautiful widescreen and noticed a mistake
the
> crew made in filming the ship after splashdown?
> Now I'm just new to this message board so forgive me if
> this was discussed before. Also don't get me wrong... this is my
> favorite film of all time so it doesn't take away from the film
it's
> just a error which most people would never notice.
>
> Any guesses?
>
> Brent

Are you refering to the shot of the ship with the hatch gone before
Dodge blows it?

--- In pota@y..., "brentdrew2002" <brentg@g...> wrote:
> Greetings ....I was watching the opening sequences of The Planet Of
> The Apes last night in beautiful widescreen and noticed a mistake
the
> crew made in filming the ship after splashdown?
> Now I'm just new to this message board so forgive me if
> this was discussed before. Also don't get me wrong... this is my
> favorite film of all time so it doesn't take away from the film
it's
> just a error which most people would never notice.
>
> Any guesses?
>
> Brent





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In a message dated 2/28/02 1:21:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Are you refering to the shot of the ship with the hatch gone before
Dodge blows it?

Have you ever also noticed that when the hatch blows off so too do the windows and and a panel in front of one of the windows.  You can also see that a panel on the prop ship has been left open when Heston comes out of the hatch.

-- Rory
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----- Original Message -----

From: brentdrew2002

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:33 AM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Can you spot the mistake?

Greetings ....I was watching the opening sequences of The Planet Of
The Apes last night in beautiful widescreen and noticed a mistake the
crew made in filming the ship after splashdown?
Now I'm just new to this message board so forgive me if
this was discussed before. Also don't get me wrong... this is my
favorite film of all time so it doesn't take away from the film it's
just a error which most people would never notice.

Any guesses?

Brent


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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 1:56 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Beneath the Planet of the Maps

In a message dated 2/28/02 10:23:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, emr1623@... writes:

I dunno about rivers running south to north.  As for changes to the geography of a landmass, I saw a tv program not too long ago that predicted than sometime in the next few thousand years, maybe as little as 100 or as long as 10,000, a thing called a "mega-tsumani" would hit the east coast of North America and destroy everything up to 25 miles inland from along the entire eastern seaboard.  Goodbye New York, Atlanta, Miami, etc.,etc....

You mean the planet of the apes isn't going to come true?!!!

BLAHHH!!!  BLAHHH!   NOOOOO!!!!

-- Rory

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--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 2/28/02 1:21:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@a... writes:
>
>
> > Are you refering to the shot of the ship with the hatch gone before
> > Dodge blows it?
> >
> >
>
> Have you ever also noticed that when the hatch blows off so too do the
> windows and and a panel in front of one of the windows. You can also see
> that a panel on the prop ship has been left open when Heston comes out of the
> hatch.
>
> -- Rory

 

Hey Gang,

The folks at  DIAMOND wanted me to rate the  Medicom Ultra Detail Figures on the scale of "GREAT-GOOD-LAME" for each figure listed below.
I also asked him if we (the fans) should start a letter writing campaign to FOX to get them to green lite the US release of the figures for DIAMOND.  He said,"No need to address FOX.   Let’s just say the situation is under control."  Also, when I commented that it would be better if the ZIRA ape-o-naut could be packaged with her helmet off, he agreed and would bring that issue up with Medicom.

I also mentioned that figures that fans wanted to see that were not made were:  Julius the Zoo Keeper, Bobby Porter's CORNELIUS (Jr) and Paul William's VIRGIL (both from Battle).
I told him that fans have also expressed interest in the MUTANTS from BENEATH with removable masks and fall-out faces. His comment: "There are no plans for additional POTA figs at this time."

So anyone that want s to contribute to this POLL, look at the list below, and next to each figure place your "GREAT-GOOD-LAME" votes.

Thanx,

Brian

 
CORNELIUS
 
SOLDIER APE
 
LUCIUS
 
GENERAL URSUS
 
ZIRA
 
DR ZAIUS
 
GENERAL URKO
 
SOLDER APE 3
 
TAYLOR
 
NOVA
 
GENERAL ALDO
 
ZIRA ASTRONAUT
 
TAYLOR ASTRONAUT
 
CAESAR
 
CAESAR'S LAND APE
 
MILO ASTRONAUT
 
CORNELIUS ASTRONAUT
 
GREATEST APE
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 4:03 PM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] MEDICOM's USA!!!

 

Hey Gang,

The folks at  DIAMOND wanted me to rate the  Medicom Ultra Detail Figures on the scale of "GREAT-GOOD-LAME" for each figure listed below.
I also asked him if we (the fans) should start a letter writing campaign to FOX to get them to green lite the US release of the figures for DIAMOND.  He said,"No need to address FOX.   Let’s just say the situation is under control."  Also, when I commented that it would be better if the ZIRA ape-o-naut could be packaged with her helmet off, he agreed and would bring that issue up with Medicom.

I also mentioned that figures that fans wanted to see that were not made were:  Julius the Zoo Keeper, Bobby Porter's CORNELIUS (Jr) and Paul William's VIRGIL (both from Battle).
I told him that fans have also expressed interest in the MUTANTS from BENEATH with removable masks and fall-out faces. His comment: "There are no plans for additional POTA figs at this time."

So anyone that want s to contribute to this POLL, look at the list below, and next to each figure place your "GREAT-GOOD-LAME" votes.

Thanx,

Brian

CORNELIUS
 
SOLDIER APE
 
LUCIUS
 
GENERAL URSUS
 
ZIRA
 
DR ZAIUS
 
GENERAL URKO
 
SOLDER APE 3
 
TAYLOR
 
NOVA
 
GENERAL ALDO
 
ZIRA ASTRONAUT
 
TAYLOR ASTRONAUT
 
CAESAR
 
CAESAR'S LAND APE
 
MILO ASTRONAUT
 
CORNELIUS ASTRONAUT
 
GREATEST APE
 

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----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:03 AM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Where's Patrick?

Where is Patrick?  We haven't seen him for a while.

I'm sure Pat's just editing the thesis for his next post.

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>>

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 2/28/02 10:59:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> LordTZer0@A... writes:
>
>
> >
> > >> Zira - - another one that's been done a lot; no one has done her better
> >> than Mego, but I think she'd be a popular choice - - GOOD
> >
> > Are you Insane? Mego's suck!
> >
>
> Yeah, what the hell is Veetus talking about? By the way, Joe Russo told me
> (yes, yes, I know) that Kim Hunter told him she didn't think the Medicom Zira
> looked like her. If true, what the hell is she talking about?
>
> -- Rory

----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 7:52 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] MEDICOM's USA!!!

  Zira - - another one that's been done a lot; no one has done her better than Mego, but I think she'd be a popular choice - - GOOD

Are you Insane?  Mego's suck!

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:21 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] MEDICOM's USA!!!

In a message dated 2/28/02 10:24:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Lucius - - my man! Only Lucius ever done; excellent hair style - - GREAT

Joe Russo told me that Lou Wagner told him that that was Lou's real hair on the top and back of his head when he played Lucius.

-- Rory

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B

veetus@... wrote:

  Yes, I'm insane. P.S.: Has anyone recreated Zira's double chin better?                               - - - Jeff  

----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 7:52 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] MEDICOM's USA!!!

 

  Zira - - another one that's been done a lot; no one has done her better than Mego, but I think she'd be a popular choice - - GOOD

Are you Insane?  Mego's suck!

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:25 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] MEDICOM's USA!!!

In a message dated 2/28/02 10:59:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

  Zira - - another one that's been done a lot; no one has done her better than Mego, but I think she'd be a popular choice - - GOOD

Are you Insane?  Mego's suck!

Yeah, what the hell is Veetus talking about?  By the way, Joe Russo told me (yes, yes, I know) that Kim Hunter told him she didn't think the Medicom Zira looked like her.  If true, what the hell is she talking about?

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] MEDICOM's USA!!!


> Cornelius - Dead on likeness. A must have. - GREAT.
>
>
> Soldier Ape - GREAT
>
>
> Lucius - GREAT
>
>
> Ursus - GREAT
>
>
> Zira - GREAT
>
> Zaius - GREAT
>
>
> Urko - An OK figure, but I agree with Jeff. It needs a repaint. - LAME
>
>
> Soldier Ape 3 - I would buy repaints with the "V" and the "II" on the
chest.
> - GOOD
>
>
> Taylor - A must have character, but the figure sucks. It is too tall. One
leg
> is longer than the other (at least on mine) and it looks more like Landon
> than Taylor. This one needs some reworking. - LAME
>
>
> Nova - GREAT
>
>
> Aldo - An OK figure, but not essential. - GOOD
>
>
> Zira Astronaut - I wish she could be resculpted so she could hold her
helmet
> like the others. - GOOD
>
>
> Taylor Astronaut - Still too tall, but less problems than the loincloth
> version. - GOOD
>
>
> Conquest Caesar - I love this figure. - GREAT
>
> Battle Caesar - An OK figure, but not essential. - GOOD
>
>
> Caesar's Land Ape - Gorilla - GREAT - Chimp - GOOD
>
>
> Milo Astronaut - GREAT
>
>
> Cornelius Astronaut - - GREAT
>
>
> Greatest Ape - An awesome figure but it needs a repaint. I dislike the
green
> paint they used. It should look more like marble. Still....GREAT
>
> Since I have all of the originals, I see no need to rebuy any of these
unless
> they have new paint jobs or have been reworked. Like most of you, I would
> love to see new figures (Julius, Virdon, Burke and Galen are at the top of
my
> list).
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 6:57 AM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Zira's double chin

Isn't Zira's double chin more of a Beneath/Escape thing?

B

veetus@... wrote:

  Yes, I'm insane. P.S.: Has anyone recreated Zira's double chin better?                               - - - Jeff  

----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 7:52 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] MEDICOM's USA!!!

 

  Zira - - another one that's been done a lot; no one has done her better than Mego, but I think she'd be a popular choice - - GOOD

Are you Insane?  Mego's suck!

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Are you refering to the shot of the ship with the hatch gone before
Dodge blows it?


Oooooh..that scene. Yeah, I do recall that.
I thought you were talking about this scene.

Best.
Al




_____

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Wahlberg's wooden man bit.  Brent was a good character.  Figuring things out
as he went.  But once the Mutants got him...Over the top!  Grip my Hands! 
'Round her Throat!




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