> Hah! The kid ape's name was Quintus. Patrick got it wrong!

> - - - Jeff

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "patrickmichaeltilton" <patrickmichaeltilton@y...>
> To: <pota@y...>
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 6:33 AM
> Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: POTA Remake
>
>
> > --- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> > > In a message dated 8/3/02 11:41:47 AM Eastern Daylight

> > > patrickmichaeltilton@y... writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > My preferences for a re-make cast would be:
> > > >
> > > > TAYLOR--George Clooney (or Bruce Willis); both are

> > > > was Mark Wahlberg), and Willis at least has the

> > > > credentials to follow in Heston's footsteps. I almost put in

> > > > here, just because his "ADRIAN!!!" scream puts him in

> > > > the "IT'S A MADHOUSE!!!" line.
> > > >
> > > > ZIRA--Emma Thompson (no question)
> > >
> > > TOO BIG!
> > >
> > > > CORNELIUS--Kenneth Branaugh (I'm sure he & Emma

> > > > terms by now! They worked great together in their

> > >
> > > TOO BIG!!
> > >
> > > > ZAIUS--Charles Durning or What's-his-name (the actor

> > > > cop in "FX", played killer-clown John Wayne Gacy, was

> > > > "10", and one of the alien guys in "Cocoon"... Jeezus,

> > > > name?!). I would have chosen Kenneth McMillan (Baron

> > > > Lynch's "DUNE"), because he's intimidating enough, but

> > > > deceased.
> > >
> > > TOO OLD!
> > >
> > > > NOVA--Heidi Klum (insert Homer Simpson drooling

> > >
> > > WHO?
> > >
> > > > JULIUS--James Gandolfini (hey, he's a blue-collar

> > > > there was one!)
> > >
> > > TOO BIG!
> > >
> > > > LUCIUS--Robert Downey Jr. (he's done the

> > > > quite nicely before--remember "Back to School"?--and

> > > > hippie youth" role would fit a misfit like him)
> > >
> > > TOO BIG and TOO OUT OF IT!
> > >
> > > > HUNT LEADER--Governor Jesse Ventura (remember his

> > > > "hunting Man" some time back?); either him or Ted

> > > > Nugent be one of the primitive hunted humans, just so he

> > > > it's like on the receiving end of a hunter's bullet!)
> > >
> > > WAY TOO BIG!
> > >
> > > > HONORIUS--Kevin Spacey
> > >
> > > THINKS HE'S TOO BIG!
> > >
> > > > MAXIMUS--Gary Oldman
> > >
> > > WANTS TOO MUCH MONEY!
> > >
> > > > PRESIDENT OF THE ASSEMBLY--The guy who played

> > > > Lampoon's ANIMAL HOUSE". What the smeg was his

> > >
> > > YEAH, ONLY ONE PROBLEM --- HE'S BEEN DEAD

> > >
> > > > LANDON--Tom Cruise (the "golden boy"... sounds like a

> > > > gun" kinda guy to me).
> > >
> > > TOO SMALL!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > > DODGE--Don Cheadle
> > >
> > > THINKS HE'S TOO BIG!
> > >
> > > > STEWART--Pamela Anderson (before)... then Joan

> > > > makeup needed!)
> > >
> > > TOO BIG BOOBED and TOO UGLY!
> > >
> > > > and, last but not least...
> > > >
> > > > QUENTIN--Haley Joel Osment
> > >
> > > WHO?!!
> > >
> > > > Patrick
> >
> > *** What do you mean by "TOO BIG", etc.? Too large,

> > TALL)? Too "big" of a star to do a POTA remake? What?
> > And how can an actor portraying Zaius be "too old", since

> > grandfather? ["What does this prove? My GRANDDAUGHTER

> > dolls." Zaius, to Cornelius] By the way, I remembered the

> > actor's name: Brian Dennehy.
> > By "TOO BIG BOOBED", I'm guessing you're referring to

> > but do you think that she (Pamela) is "TOO UGLY", or is it

> > you think is too ugly? I think Joan Rivers looks like the

> > up corpse Taylor & Dodge & Landon see before the

> > the cabin, so that's why I think she'd be good for the part--and

> > a part which, blessedly, wouldn't require her to speak!
> > Lastly, by "WHO?!!", are you referring to Haley Joel Osment or

> > Quentin? Quentin--as I'm sure you'll recall--was the kid

> > in the Zaius Museum with his mother when Taylor was on

> > on, Quentin!" sez mama chimp to her kid]. And please don't

> > that you don't know who Haley Joel Osment is! Hint: he saw

> > people.
> >
> > Patrick

> And how can an actor portraying Zaius be "too old", since Zaius is a
> grandfather?

> Jeff is right.. Listen to that mother chimp, she clearly says

> "s" sound is audible...

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> Yeah, I knew something was wrong there, and why would you want to
bother
> casting someone for a minor walk-on? That's like writing Robert
DeNiro for
> one of the apes that throws fruit at Heston.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
> Sent: Monday, 5 August 2002 1:59
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: "SIGNS" (OT) SPOILER ALERT!
>
>
> I saw "Sixth Sense" with Natalie Trundy at the Motion Picture
> Academy and
> we were so bore we walked out. This was before it became a big
> sleeper hit.
> We were so bored we walked out. It seemed like a cheap horror movie to me.
> Though we agreed Osment was a talented tyke in the vein of Roddy. After it
> became a sensation I watched the video and found it to be pretty
> good. But I
> wasn't blown away like Spielberg was (who, afterward wanted to cast Osment
> in everything from "Harry Potter" to "A.I."). Etc.
> - - - Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "patrickmichaeltilton" <patrickmichaeltilton@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 7:47 AM
> Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: "SIGNS" (OT) SPOILER ALERT!
>
>
> > --- In pota@y..., <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > > His friends (like Bruce Willis and Steven Spielberg) just call him
> Night. Just like we call you Lord. So you guys should be good, then we can
> call you Good Night and Good Lord. Etc. - - - Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: LordTZer0@A...
> > > To: pota@y...
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 7:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Signs! Signs! Signs!
> (They're gonna
> get Ya'!) OT
> > >
> > >
> > > Mid-Night Shambala
> > >
> > >
> > > N. Day Shalamar
> > > Whatever his name is . . .
> >
> > *** M. Emmet Shamalamadingdong...?
> >
> > I saw "SIGNS" the other day, too... and aside from Shyamalan's ability
> > to create an eerie, creepy, spooky mood and a few genuinely funny
> > moments, I thought this movie was RIDICULOUS. Mind you, I thought "THE
> > SIXTH SENSE" was fantastic, and I was one of the few who thought
> > "UNBREAKABLE" was pretty damn good (although not quite as good as "6th
> > Sense"); but "SIGNS" is built on a premise that is so bogus
> > theologically as to be laughable.
> >
> > SPOILER ALERT!!! Don't read any further if you haven't seen "SIGNS"
> > and don't want to know about it's "twist" ending, etc.
> >
> > What kind of "God" character is it who is "looking out for" the sad
> > family portrayed by Mel Gibson & the others? Hmmm, let's see...
> > 1.) Malevolent "beings" in invisible spaceships are on the "scouting"
> > phase of an impending invasion... and they're bound to harm Mel
> > Gibson's family especially, since their Crop Circle ends up in his
> > field. And so...
> > 2.) God causes a tired driver to fall asleep at the EXACTLY worst time
> > he possibly could--Shyamalan (who plays the character) says it's as if
> > it was FATED to happen (or something along those lines)--and his
> > vehicle slams Mel's wife into a tree (reminiscent of an episode of
> > "HOMICIDE" guest-starring Vincent d'Onofrio, who was pinned between a
> > subway car and the platform & doomed to die when they pull him out,
> > since his guts would go >ploosh< without the subway car's pressure
> > holding them in...). Why does God do this?
> > 3.) So that God can give Mel's soon-to-croak Wife prophetic insight
> > regarding the crucial moment near the end of the flick (the Baseball
> > bat: "Keep swinging"), which she imparts to her Job-like husband (i.e.
> > he's a good, religious man to whom rotten things happen, in part as a
> > test of his faith, presumably) who, unfortunately, misinterprets it as
> > a misfiring of neurons resulting in some random memories surfacing
> > during the "dying moment". Thus, he loses his faith and abandons his
> > role as a minister.
> > 4.) God also gave Joaquin Phoenix's character the "feeling" that it
> > was wrong NOT to swing at every pitch--which ruins his baseball
> > career, since he achieves the record for most strike-outs. Why does
> > God do this? So that Joaquin--no longer a contender for the major
> > leagues--will be able to move in with his older brother (after Wifey
> > dies) and be present in the house--with the Baseball bat within his
> > reach--at THE CRITICAL MOMENT.
> > 5.) God gives Mel's son (played by Rory Culkin) asthma, so that his
> > lungs will not be able to ingest the ALIEN WRIST-GAS which he's
> > threatened with. How lucky for him! Asthma turns out to be a BLESSING
> > in disguise! The Lord sure works in mysterious ways, now, doesn't He?
> > 6.) God somehow makes little Abigail Breslin's character have a
> > peculiar phobia about the quality of the tap water: she tends to leave
> > lots of nearly-filled glasses of water all around the house, because
> > it tastes "contaminated" to her. It's a "thing" she's had all her
> > life, according to her brother. As the climax of the movie happens, we
> > see that this, too, was all a part of God's Grand Design, since
> > Joaquin's baseball bat makes judicious use of those glasses of
> > water...
> >
> > All of this happens in order to thwart the malevolent plans of the
> > Crop Circle-making aliens, who--Rory Culkin's character informs us (do
> > to his study of a book on UFOs)--intend to take over the planet
> > eventually. But there's just one little thing wrong: these aliens have
> > a similar sort of reaction to WATER that the extraterrestrials in
> > "ALIEN NATION" had--it's like a corrosive to them (or something).
> > Now, aside from the sheer bullshittery of this notion (that WATER, the
> > Universal Solvent, fer Christ's sake!, could somehow be HARMFUL to a
> > lifeform upon mere contact with the skin!), this leads me to the BIG
> > QUESTION: if God was so concerned about the fates of his beloved human
> > children on this good ol' Planet Earth (especially the ex-reverend Mel
> > and his family), WHY go to all that trouble (making Shyamalan's
> > character fall asleep & commit vehicular homicide on Mel's wife... so
> > that she can give "deathbed" prophetic insight to her grief-stricken
> > husband... afflicting their kids with Asthma and Hydrophobia... and
> > ruining Joaquin's baseball career)... when ALL THAT THIS "GOD" HAD TO
> > DO WAS SIMPLY MAKE IT RAIN?!!! If these mean aliens react badly to
> > water, why doesn't God simply do a MINOR miracle and make it rain on
> > them? That would have foiled their dastardly plan--and it's not as if
> > God doesn't know how to make it rain. Remember Noah & his big boat?
> > Making it rain is EASY, if you're a Supreme Being. So why doesn't THIS
> > Supreme Being opt for that SIMPLE solution to the problem?
> >
> > Because the "god" of Shyamalan's flick is as DUMB AS A BRICK. And He's
> > a creep, too, because He evidently wants fragile human beings to find
> > solace in something as inconsequential (usually) as a deathbed final
> > utterance... which requires that utterer, of course, to LOSE HER LIFE
> > in a horrendous auto "accident" (which, of course, was NOT really an
> > accident, since God made Shyamalan's character fall asleep at the
> > wheel)... leaving behind a loving widower husband who has lost his
> > faith and two young demi-orphan children. And, even though Mel's
> > character should, too, have wondered why God didn't just magically
> > make it rain, he somehow regains his faith and returns to the
> > ministry! Somehow, Mel has let God "off the hook" for the death of his
> > wife (It was really a GOOD thing after all!), and the infliction of
> > asthma on his son. If I were him, I'd have asked God: "Hey, God? If
> > mere WATER was all it takes to fight these bug-eyed monsters, why the
> > f*ck didn't you just make it RAIN? Or at least raise the HUMIDITY high
> > enough, so that the friggin' WATER VAPOR in the air could've made it
> > too unpleasant for the aliens to hang around? Why not do THAT, God,
> > instead of KILLING MY WIFE?!!!"
> > But, then, given my agnostic views on religion in general, it
> > shouldn't be surprising that I wouldn't find Shyamalan's theatrical
> > idea of "God" (and "the Problem of Evil" and "the Reasons for Human
> > Suffering") to be not only ridiculous but ethically abhorrent. I don't
> > think the Biblical notion of "God" is worthy of Belief, let alone of
> > Worship; Shyamalan's "God", too, is unworthy of the appellation.
> >
> > Newsweek magazine is touting Shyamalan as "the next Spielberg"; aside
> > from a few crappy movies ("HOOK" comes to mind), Spielberg has a
> > damned good track record, with his first films being the first real
> > "blockbusters" ("JAWS", "CLOSE ENCOUNTERS", "RAIDERS", "ET", etc.),
> > and his most recent films being more mature ("SCHINDLER'S LIST",
> > "SAVING PRIVATE RYAN", "MINORITY REPORT"--which is the best SF film of
> > the last decade, in my opinion). Shyamalan's first 2 major films ("6TH
> > SENSE" & "UNBREAKABLE") were--I hope--not mere flukes. "SIGNS" is
> > getting good reviews--which it does NOT deserve, in my opinion. It's
> > LAUGHABLY BAD. One of the stupidest movies I've ever seen. Yeah, I was
> > expecting it to be subtly brilliant... profound, even. His last two
> > movies led me to believe that he had the Midas touch. As Meat Loaf
> > sang, "Two out of three ain't bad"... but Shyamalan would do well to
> > have some critical friends of his look over his story treatments &
> > scripts first, before going into top-secret production of his next
> > flick. Had I had the opportunity to read his script prior to casting &
> > preproduction, I'd have pointed out the glaring plot hole which--like
> > a Black Hole--swallowed the story's plausibility and crushed it into
> > quarks and gravitons.
> > Burton's "re-imagined" version of POTA was a work of BRILLIANCE in
> > comparison... and we all know how much "POTA 2000" stunk.
> >
> > Patrick Michael Tilton
> > EARTH-TIME 8-04-2002
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 11:51 AM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: POTA Remake

In a message dated 8/4/02 12:32:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

*** Is it "Quintus"? I don't think he's listed in the end credits, is
he? Is "Quintus" from the script? I'll have to check my copy of it;
the version online at
http://scifiscripts.com/scripts/planetofapes67.txt
doesn't have the mother ape's line. Here's an excerpt:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
251 FLASH SHOT - TAYLOR

He runs again.

252 MED. SHOT - AN APE MOTHER AND CHILD

Looking at the stuffed animals as Taylor races past. The mother
gives a startled SCREAM.

253 REACTION SHOT - A MUSEUM GUARD

He starts after the fugitive.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As you can see, there's no dialogue in (at least this version of)
the script, so the chimp kid's name isn't officially Quintus or
Quentin, or anything else. It sure sounds like "Quentin" to me,
but that's just subjective on my part. Where did you hear that the
name was "Quintus"? Is it in any other version/draft of the
screenplay? Inquiring minds want to know...

Patrick

I just played that section of the DVD.  I hear, and have always heard, the she-ape say "Quintus," but the closed-captioning  in English does have it as "Quentin."  However, I've listen to the line several times now and it's "Quintus" to me.

-- Rory

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

>From: pota@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Planet of the Apes] New poll for pota
>Date: 5 Aug 2002 08:04:54 -0000
>
>
>Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
>pota group:
>
>Would you like to see a follow-up to
>last year's "re-imagining" of Planet of
>the Apes?
>
> o Yes
> o No
>
>
>To vote, please visit the following web page:
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/surveys?id=952543
>
>Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
>not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
>web site listed above.
>
>Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
>

> I vote, yes.
> But I sure as hell won't countdown it.
> I learned my leason the first time.
> Wasted my time creating a very unpopular web site.
> Not again.
>
> Best.
> Al
>
>
>
> >From: pota@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> >To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Planet of the Apes] New poll

> >Date: 5 Aug 2002 08:04:54 -0000
> >
> >
> >Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
> >pota group:
> >
> >Would you like to see a follow-up to
> >last year's "re-imagining" of Planet of
> >the Apes?
> >
> > o Yes
> > o No
> >
> >
> >To vote, please visit the following web page:
> >
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/surveys?id=952543
> >
> >Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
> >not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
> >web site listed above.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> _____

>From: mlccougar@...
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New poll for pota
>Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 00:49:48 EDT
>
>In a message dated 8/5/2002 6:19:58 PM Central Standard Time,
>whitty@... writes:
>
>
> > Al
> >
> > I thought your website was awesome - just that the movie was a piece
> > of shit. That's not your fault. With all the money, time and
> > resources allocated to it, the movie should have been at least good
> > if not terrific.
> >
> > I'd have to agree with Whitty on this one. I'll admit curiousity had
>gotten
> > the best of me while, and I had checked out your sight (albeit only very
> > shortly.) Your sight itself was well designed, thought out, maintained,
> > etc., you have nothing to regret in doing it. The movie was something
>you
> > were looking forward to very much, there was nothing wrong with your
> > "countdown" to it's release.
>
>
>
> > I'm wondering how Cougar knew the whole time it would be
> > garbage...maybe a little sabotage Mr. C?
> >
> > Whitty... Nope, no sabotage on my part. Just a gut feeling, a feeling
>that
> > they were going to try to "reinvent the wheel" so to speak. They took a
> > good name and (basically) killed it. "Killed it" with their MTVing it,
> > taking that great name and bringing it down to the level of every other
>sfx
> > movie. SFX and a modern twist on the make-up do not make it POTA... I
>said
> > it then, and I'll say it now. I could go on, but my views on it are
>pretty
> > much known to those who've been in the group awhile. I know there are
>some
> > in here that "did" like it, so I won't start up the "battle" again... At
> > least not right now... I'll wait 'til we have another quiet week like we
> > had last week... J/K.
>
>
>
>

>From: "Melkor" <melkor@...>
>Thanks Rich. Anyone with a web site want to make 44 megs available
>temporarily for these files? If not I might be able to set something up
>next week. What we could really use is a permanment site for stuff like
>this.

Not that my opinion matters much, but I like it for the most part. Two things though, I don't like background sounds on web pages and you could use a menu of some sort in the left frame. Like a DHTML or Java menu. Maybe even a fancy area map. On a scale of 1 - 10, I'd give it a 6.

Thy

 Alexander Ruiz wrote:

--- In pota@y..., LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> Yesterday was the 100 and umpteenth anniversary of the Statue of
Liberty, and
> what did Fox news show? The shot of Chuck Heston bowing down
before the Ol'
> Stumpy of Livery! Well, it is a Fox icon after all! They don't
even have to
> ask permission. While I'm writing, I decided hence forward M.
Night
> Shyamalan shall be referred to as Midnight Shablahblah. And Joaquin
Phoenix
> shall be referred to as Walking Penix. Thank you, that is all.

>From: thypentacle <thypentacle@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Terminator [OT]
>Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:23:55 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>Not that my opinion matters much, but I like it for the most part. Two
>things though, I don't like background sounds on web pages and you could
>use a menu of some sort in the left frame. Like a DHTML or Java menu. Maybe
>even a fancy area map. On a scale of 1 - 10, I'd give it a 6.
>Thy
> Alexander Ruiz wrote:On a scale from 1 to 10
>How would you rate this site? It's still under contruction but from the
>presentation and what you see so far. What do you think?
>
>Please be honest.
>www.calima5021.com
>
>Best.
>Al
>
>
>
>
>_____

>From: Haristas@...
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Check out All Time Box Office - Top Grossing
>Pictures, Adjusted for Inflation
>Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 16:17:30 EDT
>
> Who in this group says TITANIC is the highest grossing movie of all
>time?!!
> (I'm sure Jeff will find this site interesting.)
>
><A HREF="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted/">Click here: All
>Time Box Office - Top Grossing Pictures, Adjusted for
>Inflation</A>

--- In pota@y..., "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@h...> wrote:
> Well, I agree with, Gone with the wind being #1 U.S. Wise.
> But world wide? Titanic is #1
>
> Remember, Rory.
> The U.S. ain't the whole world.
>
> Best.
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> >From: Haristas@a...
> >Reply-To: pota@y...
> >To: pota@y...
> >Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Check out All Time Box Office - Top
Grossing
> >Pictures, Adjusted for Inflation
> >Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 16:17:30 EDT
> >
> > Who in this group says TITANIC is the highest grossing movie of
all
> >time?!!
> > (I'm sure Jeff will find this site interesting.)
> >
> ><A HREF="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted/">Click
here: All
> >Time Box Office - Top Grossing Pictures, Adjusted for
> >Inflation</A>
>
>
>
>
> _____

----- Original Message -----
From: "james611102" <JamesA1102@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Check out All Time Box Office - Top
Grossing Pictures, Adjusted for Inflation


> Titanic?!?! Poor Eric Braeden. Everytime he steps on a boat he ends
> up dead. Think he would of learned his lesson by now.
>
>
> --- In pota@y..., "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@h...> wrote:
> > Well, I agree with, Gone with the wind being #1 U.S. Wise.
> > But world wide? Titanic is #1
> >
> > Remember, Rory.
> > The U.S. ain't the whole world.
> >
> > Best.
> > Alex
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Haristas@a...
> > >Reply-To: pota@y...
> > >To: pota@y...
> > >Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Check out All Time Box Office - Top
> Grossing
> > >Pictures, Adjusted for Inflation
> > >Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 16:17:30 EDT
> > >
> > > Who in this group says TITANIC is the highest grossing movie of
> all
> > >time?!!
> > > (I'm sure Jeff will find this site interesting.)
> > >
> > ><A HREF="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted/">Click
> here: All
> > >Time Box Office - Top Grossing Pictures, Adjusted for
> > >Inflation</A>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Check out All Time Box Office - Top
Grossing Picture...


> Hmmm... Grease, Blazing Saddles, and Animal House all made more than POTA?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 10:21 PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Terminator [OT]


> On a scale from 1 to 10
> How would you rate this site? It's still under contruction but from the
> presentation and what you see so far. What do you think?
>
> Please be honest.
> www.calima5021.com
>
> Best.
> Al
>
>
>
>
> _____

>
>
> Just got the Lord of the Rings DVD 2 -Disc Set.
> Has the movie, trailers, t.v. spots, Fox Special, Sci-Fi Special

> other tid bits including Two Towers preview. Not bad.
> Now the real amazing thing here is that in the DVD we find out

> to be a 4-Dics Set coming out in a couple of months with ten times

> Including a director's cut of an extra 30 min. of footage.
>
> Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> They know everyone who is a fan is going to buy this DVD 2 disc set

> buy the 4-disc set later on. That's now two copies of LOTR every

> will have.
>
> I would love to see a special edition 4 disc of TITANIC!
> Hell, I would buy two, one for me and one for, Rory. I'm sure he'll

> :o)
>
> Best and...
> Cameron, Rules :o)
>
> Al
>
> _____

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 8:55 PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]


>
>
> Just got the Lord of the Rings DVD 2 -Disc Set.
> Has the movie, trailers, t.v. spots, Fox Special, Sci-Fi Special and a few
> other tid bits including Two Towers preview. Not bad.
> Now the real amazing thing here is that in the DVD we find out there's
going
> to be a 4-Dics Set coming out in a couple of months with ten times as
much.
> Including a director's cut of an extra 30 min. of footage.
>
> Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> They know everyone who is a fan is going to buy this DVD 2 disc set only
to
> buy the 4-disc set later on. That's now two copies of LOTR every LOTR fan
> will have.
>
> I would love to see a special edition 4 disc of TITANIC!
> Hell, I would buy two, one for me and one for, Rory. I'm sure he'll love
it!
> :o)
>
> Best and...
> Cameron, Rules :o)
>
> Al
>
> _____

----- Original Message -----
From: <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]


> I got mine yesterday too.
>
> What a great movie.
>
> Yes, I'll also be lining up for the next release (I heard it is
> actually a 5 disc set), but many will be happy with their cheap movie
> DVD and not need the special edition.
>
> Michael
>
>
> --- "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Just got the Lord of the Rings DVD 2 -Disc Set.
> > Has the movie, trailers, t.v. spots, Fox Special, Sci-Fi Special
> and a few
> > other tid bits including Two Towers preview. Not bad.
> > Now the real amazing thing here is that in the DVD we find out
> there's going
> > to be a 4-Dics Set coming out in a couple of months with ten times
> as much.
> > Including a director's cut of an extra 30 min. of footage.
> >
> > Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> > They know everyone who is a fan is going to buy this DVD 2 disc set
> only to
> > buy the 4-disc set later on. That's now two copies of LOTR every
> LOTR fan
> > will have.
> >
> > I would love to see a special edition 4 disc of TITANIC!
> > Hell, I would buy two, one for me and one for, Rory. I'm sure he'll
> love it!
> > :o)
> >
> > Best and...
> > Cameron, Rules :o)
> >
> > Al
> >
> > _____

----- Original Message -----
From: <veetus@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]


> Since you brought it up, Cameron shot an IMAX documentary about the
> Titanic with Bill Paxton as narrator. They dove at the actual wreck and
they
> also recreated some stuff where at the studio where they filmed the movie.
> They also filmed stuff for the "Titanic" Special Ed. DVD. The movie is
> called "Ghosts of the Abyss". It'll be 45 minutes at Imax, then a 90
minute
> DVD. Check out his nonfiction website www.earthship.com for details. - -
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 8:55 PM
> Subject: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]
>
>
> >
> >
> > Just got the Lord of the Rings DVD 2 -Disc Set.
> > Has the movie, trailers, t.v. spots, Fox Special, Sci-Fi Special and a
few
> > other tid bits including Two Towers preview. Not bad.
> > Now the real amazing thing here is that in the DVD we find out there's
> going
> > to be a 4-Dics Set coming out in a couple of months with ten times as
> much.
> > Including a director's cut of an extra 30 min. of footage.
> >
> > Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> > They know everyone who is a fan is going to buy this DVD 2 disc set only
> to
> > buy the 4-disc set later on. That's now two copies of LOTR every LOTR
fan
> > will have.
> >
> > I would love to see a special edition 4 disc of TITANIC!
> > Hell, I would buy two, one for me and one for, Rory. I'm sure he'll love
> it!
> > :o)
> >
> > Best and...
> > Cameron, Rules :o)
> >
> > Al
> >
> > _____

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:55 PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]


>
>
> Just got the Lord of the Rings DVD 2 -Disc Set.
> Has the movie, trailers, t.v. spots, Fox Special, Sci-Fi Special and a few
> other tid bits including Two Towers preview. Not bad.
> Now the real amazing thing here is that in the DVD we find out there's
going
> to be a 4-Dics Set coming out in a couple of months with ten times as
much.
> Including a director's cut of an extra 30 min. of footage.
>
> Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> They know everyone who is a fan is going to buy this DVD 2 disc set only
to
> buy the 4-disc set later on. That's now two copies of LOTR every LOTR fan
> will have.
>
> I would love to see a special edition 4 disc of TITANIC!
> Hell, I would buy two, one for me and one for, Rory. I'm sure he'll love
it!
> :o)
>
> Best and...
> Cameron, Rules :o)
>
> Al
>
> _____

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken and Heather Taylor" <ktaylor@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]


> Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
>
> The studio would call it Marketing. Pretty smart too as they now they'll
> sell a shit load more. I think the Aussie Distributor ( Village Roadshow)
> have factored in the potential consumer backlash to the extra extra 4 disc
> special edition by making the 2 disc set comparable to most single disc
> releases. Check out DVDfile.com for all the latest announcements of
upcoming
> DVD releases.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:55 PM
> Subject: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]
>
>
> >
> >
> > Just got the Lord of the Rings DVD 2 -Disc Set.
> > Has the movie, trailers, t.v. spots, Fox Special, Sci-Fi Special and a
few
> > other tid bits including Two Towers preview. Not bad.
> > Now the real amazing thing here is that in the DVD we find out there's
> going
> > to be a 4-Dics Set coming out in a couple of months with ten times as
> much.
> > Including a director's cut of an extra 30 min. of footage.
> >
> > Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> > They know everyone who is a fan is going to buy this DVD 2 disc set only
> to
> > buy the 4-disc set later on. That's now two copies of LOTR every LOTR
fan
> > will have.
> >
> > I would love to see a special edition 4 disc of TITANIC!
> > Hell, I would buy two, one for me and one for, Rory. I'm sure he'll love
> it!
> > :o)
> >
> > Best and...
> > Cameron, Rules :o)
> >
> > Al
> >
> > _____

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken and Heather Taylor" <ktaylor@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]


> Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
>
> The studio would call it Marketing. Pretty smart too as they now they'll
> sell a shit load more. I think the Aussie Distributor ( Village Roadshow)
> have factored in the potential consumer backlash to the extra extra 4 disc
> special edition by making the 2 disc set comparable to most single disc
> releases. Check out DVDfile.com for all the latest announcements of
upcoming
> DVD releases.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:55 PM
> Subject: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]
>
>
> >
> >
> > Just got the Lord of the Rings DVD 2 -Disc Set.
> > Has the movie, trailers, t.v. spots, Fox Special, Sci-Fi Special and a
few
> > other tid bits including Two Towers preview. Not bad.
> > Now the real amazing thing here is that in the DVD we find out there's
> going
> > to be a 4-Dics Set coming out in a couple of months with ten times as
> much.
> > Including a director's cut of an extra 30 min. of footage.
> >
> > Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> > They know everyone who is a fan is going to buy this DVD 2 disc set only
> to
> > buy the 4-disc set later on. That's now two copies of LOTR every LOTR
fan
> > will have.
> >
> > I would love to see a special edition 4 disc of TITANIC!
> > Hell, I would buy two, one for me and one for, Rory. I'm sure he'll love
> it!
> > :o)
> >
> > Best and...
> > Cameron, Rules :o)
> >
> > Al
> >
> > _____

>From: <veetus@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]
>Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 05:46:23 -0700
>
> From what I understand, there are no repeats. The current DVD is
>promotional stuff, TV specials, etc. Plus the original cut. The next one is
>all original extras plus the director's cut. So it's not like you're paying
>twice for stuff. At least it's a good movie. I think they put out 3
>editions
>of "Pearl Harbor". Plus the 4 discs is just for fans. Most people won't
>bother with it. Etc. - - - Jeff
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ken and Heather Taylor" <ktaylor@...>
>To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 12:07 AM
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]
>
>
> > Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> >
> > The studio would call it Marketing. Pretty smart too as they now they'll
> > sell a shit load more. I think the Aussie Distributor ( Village
>Roadshow)
> > have factored in the potential consumer backlash to the extra extra 4
>disc
> > special edition by making the 2 disc set comparable to most single disc
> > releases. Check out DVDfile.com for all the latest announcements of
>upcoming
> > DVD releases.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@...>
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:55 PM
> > Subject: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just got the Lord of the Rings DVD 2 -Disc Set.
> > > Has the movie, trailers, t.v. spots, Fox Special, Sci-Fi Special and a
>few
> > > other tid bits including Two Towers preview. Not bad.
> > > Now the real amazing thing here is that in the DVD we find out there's
> > going
> > > to be a 4-Dics Set coming out in a couple of months with ten times as
> > much.
> > > Including a director's cut of an extra 30 min. of footage.
> > >
> > > Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> > > They know everyone who is a fan is going to buy this DVD 2 disc set
>only
> > to
> > > buy the 4-disc set later on. That's now two copies of LOTR every LOTR
>fan
> > > will have.
> > >
> > > I would love to see a special edition 4 disc of TITANIC!
> > > Hell, I would buy two, one for me and one for, Rory. I'm sure he'll
>love
> > it!
> > > :o)
> > >
> > > Best and...
> > > Cameron, Rules :o)
> > >
> > > Al
> > >
> > > _____

>From: <veetus@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Terminator [OT]
>Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:05:20 -0700
>
> It's hard to rate it 'cause you're just getting started. I like the
>music
>playing. I think Alex is always inventive and surprising with his
>websites.
>He puts the "me" in multimedia. I like the easy downloads. And graphically
>it looks great. "Terminator" is the perfect subject for a high-tech
>website. - - - Jeff
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@...>
>To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 10:21 PM
>Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Terminator [OT]
>
>
> > On a scale from 1 to 10
> > How would you rate this site? It's still under contruction but from the
> > presentation and what you see so far. What do you think?
> >
> > Please be honest.
> > www.calima5021.com
> >
> > Best.
> > Al
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____

> Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
>
> The studio would call it Marketing. Pretty smart too as they now

> sell a shit load more. I think the Aussie Distributor ( Village

> have factored in the potential consumer backlash to the extra extra

> special edition by making the 2 disc set comparable to most single

> releases. Check out DVDfile.com for all the latest announcements of

> DVD releases.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:55 PM
> Subject: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]
>
>
> >
> >
> > Just got the Lord of the Rings DVD 2 -Disc Set.
> > Has the movie, trailers, t.v. spots, Fox Special, Sci-Fi Special

> > other tid bits including Two Towers preview. Not bad.
> > Now the real amazing thing here is that in the DVD we find out

> going
> > to be a 4-Dics Set coming out in a couple of months with ten

> much.
> > Including a director's cut of an extra 30 min. of footage.
> >
> > Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> > They know everyone who is a fan is going to buy this DVD 2 disc

> to
> > buy the 4-disc set later on. That's now two copies of LOTR every

> > will have.
> >
> > I would love to see a special edition 4 disc of TITANIC!
> > Hell, I would buy two, one for me and one for, Rory. I'm sure

> it!
> > :o)
> >
> > Best and...
> > Cameron, Rules :o)
> >
> > Al
> >
> > _____

----- Original Message -----
From: <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]


> You negative nelly you!
>
> The 4 (or 5) disc set is ALL NEW.
>
> Deleted scenes have been added where they were missing from, not just
> thrown on separately and with different colouration/crap all over the
> screen as with most deleted scenes. All the extras on the other
> discs are different to those on the 2 disc set too.
>
> The 2 disc set only cost $30 AUS, compared to POTA 2001 that cost
> $54.95 AUS (almost twice the price for a fifth of the movie - good
> work Fox). So long as the 5 disc set does not cost a fortune (I
> think it will be around $50 AUS) it will actually reflect good value
> for money to me and those who just want the movie get it for $30 -
> less than most new DVD releases here.
>
> My gripe is with releases like the Twilight Zone original series.
> They have released discs with 3 or 4 episodes, with no continuity to
> them (on one disc you often get an episode from 3 or for different
> series) and no extras! At $35 each! And you just know when they
> have milked that dry they will release season Box Sets where you will
> pay so much less.
>
> Oh well, that's Hollywood......
>
> Michael
>
> --- "Ken and Heather Taylor" <ktaylor@...> wrote:
> > Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> >
> > The studio would call it Marketing. Pretty smart too as they now
> they'll
> > sell a shit load more. I think the Aussie Distributor ( Village
> Roadshow)
> > have factored in the potential consumer backlash to the extra extra
> 4 disc
> > special edition by making the 2 disc set comparable to most single
> disc
> > releases. Check out DVDfile.com for all the latest announcements of
> upcoming
> > DVD releases.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@...>
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:55 PM
> > Subject: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just got the Lord of the Rings DVD 2 -Disc Set.
> > > Has the movie, trailers, t.v. spots, Fox Special, Sci-Fi Special
> and a few
> > > other tid bits including Two Towers preview. Not bad.
> > > Now the real amazing thing here is that in the DVD we find out
> there's
> > going
> > > to be a 4-Dics Set coming out in a couple of months with ten
> times as
> > much.
> > > Including a director's cut of an extra 30 min. of footage.
> > >
> > > Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> > > They know everyone who is a fan is going to buy this DVD 2 disc
> set only
> > to
> > > buy the 4-disc set later on. That's now two copies of LOTR every
> LOTR fan
> > > will have.
> > >
> > > I would love to see a special edition 4 disc of TITANIC!
> > > Hell, I would buy two, one for me and one for, Rory. I'm sure
> he'll love
> > it!
> > > :o)
> > >
> > > Best and...
> > > Cameron, Rules :o)
> > >
> > > Al
> > >
> > > _____

----- Original Message -----
From: <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]


> You negative nelly you!
>
> The 4 (or 5) disc set is ALL NEW.
>
> Deleted scenes have been added where they were missing from, not just
> thrown on separately and with different colouration/crap all over the
> screen as with most deleted scenes. All the extras on the other
> discs are different to those on the 2 disc set too.
>
> The 2 disc set only cost $30 AUS, compared to POTA 2001 that cost
> $54.95 AUS (almost twice the price for a fifth of the movie - good
> work Fox). So long as the 5 disc set does not cost a fortune (I
> think it will be around $50 AUS) it will actually reflect good value
> for money to me and those who just want the movie get it for $30 -
> less than most new DVD releases here.
>
> My gripe is with releases like the Twilight Zone original series.
> They have released discs with 3 or 4 episodes, with no continuity to
> them (on one disc you often get an episode from 3 or for different
> series) and no extras! At $35 each! And you just know when they
> have milked that dry they will release season Box Sets where you will
> pay so much less.
>
> Oh well, that's Hollywood......
>
> Michael
>
> --- "Ken and Heather Taylor" <ktaylor@...> wrote:
> > Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> >
> > The studio would call it Marketing. Pretty smart too as they now
> they'll
> > sell a shit load more. I think the Aussie Distributor ( Village
> Roadshow)
> > have factored in the potential consumer backlash to the extra extra
> 4 disc
> > special edition by making the 2 disc set comparable to most single
> disc
> > releases. Check out DVDfile.com for all the latest announcements of
> upcoming
> > DVD releases.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@...>
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:55 PM
> > Subject: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just got the Lord of the Rings DVD 2 -Disc Set.
> > > Has the movie, trailers, t.v. spots, Fox Special, Sci-Fi Special
> and a few
> > > other tid bits including Two Towers preview. Not bad.
> > > Now the real amazing thing here is that in the DVD we find out
> there's
> > going
> > > to be a 4-Dics Set coming out in a couple of months with ten
> times as
> > much.
> > > Including a director's cut of an extra 30 min. of footage.
> > >
> > > Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> > > They know everyone who is a fan is going to buy this DVD 2 disc
> set only
> > to
> > > buy the 4-disc set later on. That's now two copies of LOTR every
> LOTR fan
> > > will have.
> > >
> > > I would love to see a special edition 4 disc of TITANIC!
> > > Hell, I would buy two, one for me and one for, Rory. I'm sure
> he'll love
> > it!
> > > :o)
> > >
> > > Best and...
> > > Cameron, Rules :o)
> > >
> > > Al
> > >
> > > _____

----- Original Message -----
From: <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]


> You negative nelly you!
>
> The 4 (or 5) disc set is ALL NEW.
>
> Deleted scenes have been added where they were missing from, not just
> thrown on separately and with different colouration/crap all over the
> screen as with most deleted scenes. All the extras on the other
> discs are different to those on the 2 disc set too.
>
> The 2 disc set only cost $30 AUS, compared to POTA 2001 that cost
> $54.95 AUS (almost twice the price for a fifth of the movie - good
> work Fox). So long as the 5 disc set does not cost a fortune (I
> think it will be around $50 AUS) it will actually reflect good value
> for money to me and those who just want the movie get it for $30 -
> less than most new DVD releases here.
>
> My gripe is with releases like the Twilight Zone original series.
> They have released discs with 3 or 4 episodes, with no continuity to
> them (on one disc you often get an episode from 3 or for different
> series) and no extras! At $35 each! And you just know when they
> have milked that dry they will release season Box Sets where you will
> pay so much less.
>
> Oh well, that's Hollywood......
>
> Michael
>
> --- "Ken and Heather Taylor" <ktaylor@...> wrote:
> > Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> >
> > The studio would call it Marketing. Pretty smart too as they now
> they'll
> > sell a shit load more. I think the Aussie Distributor ( Village
> Roadshow)
> > have factored in the potential consumer backlash to the extra extra
> 4 disc
> > special edition by making the 2 disc set comparable to most single
> disc
> > releases. Check out DVDfile.com for all the latest announcements of
> upcoming
> > DVD releases.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@...>
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:55 PM
> > Subject: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just got the Lord of the Rings DVD 2 -Disc Set.
> > > Has the movie, trailers, t.v. spots, Fox Special, Sci-Fi Special
> and a few
> > > other tid bits including Two Towers preview. Not bad.
> > > Now the real amazing thing here is that in the DVD we find out
> there's
> > going
> > > to be a 4-Dics Set coming out in a couple of months with ten
> times as
> > much.
> > > Including a director's cut of an extra 30 min. of footage.
> > >
> > > Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> > > They know everyone who is a fan is going to buy this DVD 2 disc
> set only
> > to
> > > buy the 4-disc set later on. That's now two copies of LOTR every
> LOTR fan
> > > will have.
> > >
> > > I would love to see a special edition 4 disc of TITANIC!
> > > Hell, I would buy two, one for me and one for, Rory. I'm sure
> he'll love
> > it!
> > > :o)
> > >
> > > Best and...
> > > Cameron, Rules :o)
> > >
> > > Al
> > >
> > > _____

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:28 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]

In a message dated 8/7/02 10:21:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ktaylor@... writes:

What, you think the DVD format was created to satisfy the fans? It's so we
can shell out more money for movies we already own on VHS because the VHS
market had levelled out and something was needed to rejuvenate hardware (
and subsequently software ) sales.

Just count yourself lucky you never got into Laserdiscs.  I'm eating those.  DVD is around so video looks better on the big screen TVs.  Now we have D-VHS and soon HD-DVDs.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:28 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]

In a message dated 8/7/02 10:21:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ktaylor@... writes:

What, you think the DVD format was created to satisfy the fans? It's so we
can shell out more money for movies we already own on VHS because the VHS
market had levelled out and something was needed to rejuvenate hardware (
and subsequently software ) sales.

Just count yourself lucky you never got into Laserdiscs.  I'm eating those.  DVD is around so video looks better on the big screen TVs.  Now we have D-VHS and soon HD-DVDs.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Ken and Heather Taylor

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:32 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]

Yeah, Ah piddy the poor fool who collected laser discs. They've join the ranks of Video-discs and Beta as future museum pieces.

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:28 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]

In a message dated 8/7/02 10:21:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ktaylor@... writes:

What, you think the DVD format was created to satisfy the fans? It's so we
can shell out more money for movies we already own on VHS because the VHS
market had levelled out and something was needed to rejuvenate hardware (
and subsequently software ) sales.

Just count yourself lucky you never got into Laserdiscs.  I'm eating those.  DVD is around so video looks better on the big screen TVs.  Now we have D-VHS and soon HD-DVDs.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: veetus@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:42 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]

  What the hell. For 15 years or so I was awestruck by people who had laserdiscs. I couldn't afford 'em. That's a small price to pay for all those years of fun. - - Jeff

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Ken and Heather Taylor

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:32 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]

Yeah, Ah piddy the poor fool who collected laser discs. They've join the ranks of Video-discs and Beta as future museum pieces.

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:28 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]

In a message dated 8/7/02 10:21:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ktaylor@... writes:

What, you think the DVD format was created to satisfy the fans? It's so we
can shell out more money for movies we already own on VHS because the VHS
market had levelled out and something was needed to rejuvenate hardware (
and subsequently software ) sales.

Just count yourself lucky you never got into Laserdiscs.  I'm eating those.  DVD is around so video looks better on the big screen TVs.  Now we have D-VHS and soon HD-DVDs.

-- Rory

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> Not negative, realistic.
> What, you think the DVD format was created to satisfy the fans?

> can shell out more money for movies we already own on VHS because

> market had levelled out and something was needed to rejuvenate

> and subsequently software ) sales.
> Also, it's my understanding that Roadshow will only be releasing

> special edition as they do not have distribution rights in this

> the National Geographic DVD. The National Geographic DVD is part of

> collectors edition packaging to be released in the U.S. that also

> set of figurines.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <whitty@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]
>
>
> > You negative nelly you!
> >
> > The 4 (or 5) disc set is ALL NEW.
> >
> > Deleted scenes have been added where they were missing from, not

> > thrown on separately and with different colouration/crap all over

> > screen as with most deleted scenes. All the extras on the other
> > discs are different to those on the 2 disc set too.
> >
> > The 2 disc set only cost $30 AUS, compared to POTA 2001 that cost
> > $54.95 AUS (almost twice the price for a fifth of the movie - good
> > work Fox). So long as the 5 disc set does not cost a fortune (I
> > think it will be around $50 AUS) it will actually reflect good

> > for money to me and those who just want the movie get it for $30 -
> > less than most new DVD releases here.
> >
> > My gripe is with releases like the Twilight Zone original series.
> > They have released discs with 3 or 4 episodes, with no continuity

> > them (on one disc you often get an episode from 3 or for different
> > series) and no extras! At $35 each! And you just know when they
> > have milked that dry they will release season Box Sets where you

> > pay so much less.
> >
> > Oh well, that's Hollywood......
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --- "Ken and Heather Taylor" <ktaylor@...> wrote:
> > > Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> > >
> > > The studio would call it Marketing. Pretty smart too as they now
> > they'll
> > > sell a shit load more. I think the Aussie Distributor ( Village
> > Roadshow)
> > > have factored in the potential consumer backlash to the extra

> > 4 disc
> > > special edition by making the 2 disc set comparable to most

> > disc
> > > releases. Check out DVDfile.com for all the latest

> > upcoming
> > > DVD releases.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@...>
> > > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:55 PM
> > > Subject: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Just got the Lord of the Rings DVD 2 -Disc Set.
> > > > Has the movie, trailers, t.v. spots, Fox Special, Sci-Fi

> > and a few
> > > > other tid bits including Two Towers preview. Not bad.
> > > > Now the real amazing thing here is that in the DVD we find out
> > there's
> > > going
> > > > to be a 4-Dics Set coming out in a couple of months with ten
> > times as
> > > much.
> > > > Including a director's cut of an extra 30 min. of footage.
> > > >
> > > > Boy, can some say...RIP OFF!
> > > > They know everyone who is a fan is going to buy this DVD 2

> > set only
> > > to
> > > > buy the 4-disc set later on. That's now two copies of LOTR

> > LOTR fan
> > > > will have.
> > > >
> > > > I would love to see a special edition 4 disc of TITANIC!
> > > > Hell, I would buy two, one for me and one for, Rory. I'm sure
> > he'll love
> > > it!
> > > > :o)
> > > >
> > > > Best and...
> > > > Cameron, Rules :o)
> > > >
> > > > Al
> > > >
> > > >

> In a message dated 8/7/02 7:51:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
>
> > My gripe is with releases like the Twilight Zone original

> > They have released discs with 3 or 4 episodes, with no continuity

> > them (on one disc you often get an episode from 3 or for

> > series) and no extras! At $35 each! And you just know when they
> > have milked that dry they will release season Box Sets where you

> > pay so much less.
> >
> > Oh well, that's Hollywood......
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
>
> Have you guys ever thought of just renting? Over here in the

> Blockbuster has gotten on the DVD bandwagon, and there are plenty

> on the web that have the rarer stuff.
>
> -- Rory
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:49 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]

In a message dated 8/7/02 10:42:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ktaylor@... writes:

That was then..this is now.

And you get a hold of that and hang on to it or you might as well be dead?  Is that your point?


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> In a message dated 8/7/2002 9:45:06 PM Central Standard Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
>
> >
> > I just read a review of the set at DVDFile,com. Says all the

> > pretty good. I've been watching them for months now -- the Sci-

> > shows them during the day and I've been taping them. I loved the

> > kid, but there are a few bad episodes, especially in the second

> >
>
>
> But are they chopped apart like Sci-Fi did to Planet of the Apes?
>
>

--- In pota@y..., "Ken and Heather Taylor" <ktaylor@z...> wrote:
> Yeah, Ah piddy the poor fool who collected laser discs. They've join the ranks of Video-discs and Beta as future museum pieces.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Haristas@a...
> To: pota@y...
> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]
>
>
> In a message dated 8/7/02 10:21:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ktaylor@z... writes:
>
>
>
> What, you think the DVD format was created to satisfy the fans? It's so we
> can shell out more money for movies we already own on VHS because the VHS
> market had levelled out and something was needed to rejuvenate hardware (
> and subsequently software ) sales.
>
>
>
> Just count yourself lucky you never got into Laserdiscs. I'm eating those. DVD is around so video looks better on the big screen TVs. Now we have D-VHS and soon HD-DVDs.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.

> "Since Lucas will NOT be releasing the "untweaked" original cuts
> of SW, TESB, & ROTJ, then the ONLY way to see widescreen versions of
> those flicks as they were originally conceived is on the laserdisc
> version (which, of course, is now no longer in production)."
>
> Not true, the trilogy was released on VHS in both Pan & Scan and Widescreen
> in 1995. at least in Australia and the U.K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "patrickmichaeltilton" <patrickmichaeltilton@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Laserdiscs


> --- In pota@y..., "Ken and Heather Taylor" <ktaylor@z...> wrote:
> > "Since Lucas will NOT be releasing the "untweaked" original cuts
> > of SW, TESB, & ROTJ, then the ONLY way to see widescreen versions of
> > those flicks as they were originally conceived is on the laserdisc
> > version (which, of course, is now no longer in production)."
> >
> > Not true, the trilogy was released on VHS in both Pan & Scan and
Widescreen
> > in 1995. at least in Australia and the U.K.
>
> *** Are you sure that the pre-Special Edition versions were released
> in widescreen on VHS? I held off buying STAR WARS (etc) on tape
> because it was NOT in widescreen, and wasn't available (as far as I
> could tell) until the "updated" Special Editions were put out. I
> bought the boxed-set of widescreen Special Edition trilogy, but I
> thought that that was the first release on VHS of any widescreen STAR
> WARS stuff. I could be wrong about this, though; however, it IS true
> that Lucas has informed us that the SW trilogy--when it is released on
> DVD--will NOT be the "original" versions, but the Special Edition
> versions ("Greedo-shoots-first", Jabba's scene, Biggs at Yavin, etc.).
> The original versions will never be made available by Lucas (unless
> somebody with a working voodoo doll of him can "force" him to do so!),
> since "his" films are continual "works-in-progress".
> Regardless, those VHS tapes will eventually deteriorate and/or get
> "eaten" by VCRs. The laserdiscs will last much much longer.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:48 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] LOTR [OT]

In a message dated 8/7/02 10:38:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

What the hell. For 15 years or so I was awestruck by people who had laserdiscs. I couldn't afford 'em. That's a small price to pay for all those years of fun. - - Jeff

Yes, that is my attitude.  There was no living without them back in the late Eighties and early Nineties.  It was the only place you were going to get anything letterboxed for a long time.  If you were a movie nut it was a must have.  Luckily for me I didn't have the money to buy everything I wanted.  I know guys who bought hundreds!   Joe Russo bought the entire original Star Trek series on LD.  Now he's using them for Frisbees.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----
From: "patrickmichaeltilton" <patrickmichaeltilton@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Laserdiscs


> --- In pota@y..., "Ken and Heather Taylor" <ktaylor@z...> wrote:
> > "Since Lucas will NOT be releasing the "untweaked" original cuts
> > of SW, TESB, & ROTJ, then the ONLY way to see widescreen versions of
> > those flicks as they were originally conceived is on the laserdisc
> > version (which, of course, is now no longer in production)."
> >
> > Not true, the trilogy was released on VHS in both Pan & Scan and
Widescreen
> > in 1995. at least in Australia and the U.K.
>
> *** Are you sure that the pre-Special Edition versions were released
> in widescreen on VHS? I held off buying STAR WARS (etc) on tape
> because it was NOT in widescreen, and wasn't available (as far as I
> could tell) until the "updated" Special Editions were put out. I
> bought the boxed-set of widescreen Special Edition trilogy, but I
> thought that that was the first release on VHS of any widescreen STAR
> WARS stuff. I could be wrong about this, though; however, it IS true
> that Lucas has informed us that the SW trilogy--when it is released on
> DVD--will NOT be the "original" versions, but the Special Edition
> versions ("Greedo-shoots-first", Jabba's scene, Biggs at Yavin, etc.).
> The original versions will never be made available by Lucas (unless
> somebody with a working voodoo doll of him can "force" him to do so!),
> since "his" films are continual "works-in-progress".
> Regardless, those VHS tapes will eventually deteriorate and/or get
> "eaten" by VCRs. The laserdiscs will last much much longer.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

On Thursday, August 8, 2002, at 01:49 AM, patrickmichaeltilton wrote:

> By the way, I know a guy who has the original ("real") versions of the
> STAR WARS trilogy on laserdisc

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken and Heather Taylor" <ktaylor@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Laserdiscs


> "Since Lucas will NOT be releasing the "untweaked" original cuts
> of SW, TESB, & ROTJ, then the ONLY way to see widescreen versions of
> those flicks as they were originally conceived is on the laserdisc
> version (which, of course, is now no longer in production)."
>
> Not true, the trilogy was released on VHS in both Pan & Scan and
Widescreen
> in 1995. at least in Australia and the U.K.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

>From: "Ken and Heather Taylor" <ktaylor@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Laserdiscs
>Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 18:35:54 +1000
>
>"Since Lucas will NOT be releasing the "untweaked" original cuts
>of SW, TESB, & ROTJ, then the ONLY way to see widescreen versions of
>those flicks as they were originally conceived is on the laserdisc
>version (which, of course, is now no longer in production)."
>
>Not true, the trilogy was released on VHS in both Pan & Scan and Widescreen
>in 1995. at least in Australia and the U.K.
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 8:27 AM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Laserdiscs

In a message dated 8/8/02 2:50:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

the APES discs I
managed to track down before they were put on moratorium were PLANET,
ESCAPE, and CONQUEST (both BENEATH and BATTLE were nowhere to be found
by the time I started investing in laserdiscs, dammit!).
By the way, I know a guy who has the original ("real") versions of the
STAR WARS trilogy on laserdisc--before the "special editions" came
out. Since Lucas will NOT be releasing the "untweaked" original cuts

In the early Nineties only PLANET, BENEATH, ESCAPE and CONQUEST were released in Widescreen Editions on Laserdisc.  PLANET looked horrible and had fake stereo made from mono tracks.  I sold my BENEATH LD to Chris Sausville because he wanted it for his collection.  I couldn't have cared less by that time.  Once the THX LDs came out of all five that was all I'd look at, although as soon as they did come out I started writing to Fox asking them to get the movies out on DVD as soon as possible.

I have those THX LDs of the original versions of the STAR WARS movies.  My laserdiscs still have some use.  I have a very nice letterboxed edition of THE OMEGA MAN.  Who knows why that'll ever get released on LD.  Also, Roman Polanski's THE FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS letterboxed, that's another favorite of mine.  Ape-wise, I have a nice double feature LD of KING KONG and SON OF KONG.  Now why KING KONG isn't yet on DVD I have no idea.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Ruiz" <thaderules@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Laserdiscs


> For thos who would like SW Original and Special Edition on DVD.
> Here's a booty site.
>
> http://areax.bizhosting.com/
>
> These are taken direct from Laser Disc to DVD.
>
> Best.
> Al
>
>
>
> >From: "Ken and Heather Taylor" <ktaylor@...>
> >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> >To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Laserdiscs
> >Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 18:35:54 +1000
> >
> >"Since Lucas will NOT be releasing the "untweaked" original cuts
> >of SW, TESB, & ROTJ, then the ONLY way to see widescreen versions of
> >those flicks as they were originally conceived is on the laserdisc
> >version (which, of course, is now no longer in production)."
> >
> >Not true, the trilogy was released on VHS in both Pan & Scan and
Widescreen
> >in 1995. at least in Australia and the U.K.
> >
>
>
>
>
> _____

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 8:34 AM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Laserdiscs

In a message dated 8/8/02 9:18:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

Laserdiscs are forever, VHS isn't. Come to think of it, we're not forever
either so who cares? But if Cornelius digs up the laserdisc, he can watch
the original "Star Wars". Not so if he digs up the VHS. Etc.      - - - Jeff

Actually the glue that holds both sides of the laserdiscs together rots with time putting white specks in the picture.  I have a few that are very annoying to watch because of that.  Just another reason why DVDs are so much better.  Also LDs are analog and that's fast going the way of the dinosaur.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:12 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Laserdiscs

  

Laserdiscs are forever

Nothing is forever.  All media degrades.  It's just a question of how long?

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 5:01 PM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] King Kong on DVD

Well, next year is the 70th Anniversary of KING KONG's 1933 release, so maybe they're (whoever "they" are?) are waiting until then.  But you always wonder if perhaps you'll get run over and killed by a car before then? 

I WANT MY DVDs NOW, NURSE RATSHIT!

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 9:50 AM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA POLL

Oh yeah, I forgot. . .

3.  Who gave the single worst performance as an ape in all of POTAdom, and why?

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 5:06 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] King Kong on DVD

In a message dated 8/8/02 8:05:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

Next year is also POTA's 40th Anniversary (the book). It's an anniversary double-header. Etc. - - Jeff

It's enough to make one GO APE!!

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From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:01 AM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] King Kong on DVD

Well, next year is the 70th Anniversary of KING KONG's 1933 release, so maybe they're (whoever "they" are?) are waiting until then.  But you always wonder if perhaps you'll get run over and killed by a car before then? 

I WANT MY DVDs NOW, NURSE RATSHIT!

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:11 AM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA POLL

In a message dated 8/8/02 8:08:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ktaylor@... writes:

I'd have to say that I've never been inspired by Natalie Trundy's performance as Lisa in Battle. She just didn't 'work' the appliances as well as Kim Hunter did. I don't know how much that has to do with the less elaborate make-up in comparison to Planet.

Yeah, I agree.  I don't think Natalie Trundy was really that into it in BATTLE.  She was a little better in CONQUEST but of course had little to do.  I think Jeff might disagree here.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Ken and Heather Taylor

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:18 AM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] King Kong on DVD

If you're tardy, they'll be no fruit cup.

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:01 AM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] King Kong on DVD

Well, next year is the 70th Anniversary of KING KONG's 1933 release, so maybe they're (whoever "they" are?) are waiting until then.  But you always wonder if perhaps you'll get run over and killed by a car before then? 

I WANT MY DVDs NOW, NURSE RATSHIT!

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--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> Okay since it's slowed down yet again let me ask these questions
of ya all
> (and give reasons when you answer):
>
> 1. In order of preference what would you rate as the top FIVE
performances
> by an actor (and actress) as an ape in all the POTA films and TV
series,
> including the new movie? (And don't just give the TV show, but
name the
> episode.)
>
> 2. Which do you think was Roddy McDowall's best performance as a
chimpanzee:
> PLANET, ESCAPE, CONQUEST, BATTLE or a certain TV show episode,
and why?
> Which do you think was his worst?
>
> OK, discuss amongst yourselves.
>
> -- Rory