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Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:03 AM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] OFF TOPIC post

In a message dated 9/12/2002 8:37:00 AM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Look at what Fox is making: "Fat Albert",

I heard this is NOT happening now, because Cosby didn't like the way they were taking the characters, etc...

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From: "Melkor" <melkor@...>
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Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 1:33 PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Blacklisted POTA people


> >
> > Hunter, whose role in a 1943 Ginger Rogers film about women who lived
> > communally during World War II led to her being blacklisted as a
suspected
> > communist during the 1950s, died of natural causes at her Greenwich
Village
> > apartment, upstairs from the Cherry Lane Theater, her son, Sean Emmett
said.
> >
>
> Mike Wilson was also blacklisted for being a "communist". I wonder who
else
> in POTA besides Kim Hunter and Mike Wilson was blacklisted?
>
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From: Ken and Heather Taylor

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 4:44 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Hello All...new to the group

Hi Tim,
Welcome to the group. Spooky that you should happen to join today, of all
days. I have a pretty extensive collection also and have most of the items
you mentioned. I've been collecting for about 12 years now but have gotten
to the point where anything I don't have is too expensive for me to buy
anyway ( the Aussie $ is only worth 54 U.S. cents..ouch!). If you can view
PC pics, let me know and I can post some if you like.
Best,
KEN
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Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Hello All...new to the group


> Hey Rory---oh no...i don't think they drug the bomb across the
> US! There were probably several of them...including one in
> NYC.....you know I never thought about Conquest not being in
> LA...i just assumed since Z/C/M landed there....but Armando
> could have taken Ceaser to....Wyoming!
>
> my collection has grown to the point of i had to kick my roomate
> out and fill the room up with APESHIT! Let's see.... just got all 5
> UK puzzles....only need 3 more MOC Megos....still have my Don
> Post cornelius mask......have been concentrating lately on
> foreign press material...just got a very cool Spanish Escape
> poster (Huida del Planeta de Los Simios!!) ...a few Mexican
> lobbys....am still looking for frisbees, sleeping bag, the 5'
> playhouse, fake feet, bathmat,..etc.....anybody got those? Have
> been up for some very cool rare items on Ebay only to be beat by
> Eric Greene! (Damn him all to hell!! lol)
>
> I still can't figure out how to post pics....do I send them thru email
> to somebody?
>
> tim
>
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From: Melkor

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Ape Writing System

> In a message dated 9/11/02 2:11:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> melkor@... writes:
>
>
> > Yes it was the budget but also the fact that the suits are cool and people
> > wanted to see them again.  I liked that they used the same suits.  Since
> > the
> > Lawgiver statue in PLANET had the same suit as Dr. Zaius we know the suit
> > design is very old and so using the same designs in BATTLE is plausible. 
> > What
> > is less plausible than keeping the same fashions is that the apes in PLANET
> > and
> > BENEATH still use the same dialect of English after 2000 years.  It would
> > have been easier for the suits to remain the same than the language.
>
> We don't have any clue from the first two films when the Lawgiver statue was
> made.  It could have been done centuries after his death when no ape would
> remember what the Lawgiver actually did wear.

Even if that were the case you could subtract 300 more years and the orangutan
suit design would still be 900 years old.  And if it is 900 years old it could
easily be 2000 years old.  We don't know what Jesus looked like but no one
depicts him wearing a modern business suit.


>
> I find it a little funny that you don't mind that the costumes remain
> unchanged for two thousand years, but you still want to beat up the series
> for having the apes speaking English. 

I imagine almost no one today would be able to understand someone speaking
English from 2000 years ago, or even 1000 years ago.


> Were the filmmakers supposed to use a
> language no audience could understand?  As a kid would you have wanted to
> read subtitles everytime an ape spoke?  Cut the series some slack.
>
> -- Rory

Cut the sequels some slack.  The point is that PLANET has flaws just like
the sequels do.   It was PLANET, not BATTLE, which first established that the
suit designs may be very, very old.  And it is PLANET which depicts
no language changes in 2000 years of time.  But since these movies are
works of fiction, I can accept that the apes language and fashions, like their
technology, could remain static for 2000 years because it was established
that way by the writers.  The ape's social conservatism was probably intended
to fit in with their political conservatism.

-Tom


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----- Original Message -----

From: Melkor

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 4:56 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Apes Writing

I remember reading somewhere (Marvel?) that the ape costumes were designed
to appear medievalistic.  I wasn't serious about the glyphs being Chinese
characters but all the ape costumes look somewhat like medieval Chinese
fashions so maybe that was the inspiration for the POTA costumes.


>
> Thanks Mr Cougar
>
> I believe the answer is out there.
>
> I'll assume nobody want to go through and get stills of the glyphs???
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mlccougar@... [mlccougar@...]
> Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2002 14:44
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Apes Writing
>
>
> In a message dated 9/11/2002 6:24:32 PM Central Standard Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
>
>
>     Thanks Mr Cougar.  I wonder if anyone did actually get an answer from
>     Hack???  It is possible - I don't think we are the only people in the
>     world who have wanted an answer to this question.
>
>     Another point....did Hack design costumes in all the films and in the
>     TV Series or just the first film and it was adapted after that???
>     Mr. Cougar, do you know the answer to this one?
>
>     Michael
>
>
> I'll dig thru those Marvel mags and see if I can find anything else about
> the costume designs... I'll post it in the next few days if I do...


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This Apes Chronology was first printed in 1975 in Marvel Comics' Planet of the Apes comics magazine (Issue #11). It was provided by NetTrekker, who beefed up the passing references to how they described filmed events. It also features Marvel's Apes stories in the timeline. NetTrekker integrated the animated series, fit into the timeline. The Adventure Comics stories are not included, but hopefully they will in time. RogerApple has added the film, TV, and comic references where appropriate.

February:
Astronauts Taylor, Dodge, Landon and Stewart are launched on the first interstellar exploration flight. (Planet of the Apes)

November:
Astronauts "Skipper" and Brent are launched along the same flight path as the previous vessel to probe its unexplained disappearance from detection. (Beneath the Planet of the Apes)

1973

April:
The first vessel reappears mysteriously within nearby space. It lands off the California coast, slightly north of San Clemente and is met my mobilized United States Navy spaceflight recovery crews. The capsule is found to be piloted by three speaking chimpanzees who identify themselves as Doctors Cornelius, Zira and Milo. The apes are taken to the Los Angeles Zoo, where Milo is killed by a primitive gorilla. Cornelius and Zira are brought before a scientific inquiry and are accepted as friends of the planet Earth. (Escape From the Planet of the Apes)

June:
Through underhanded interrogation and analysis of the spacecraft, Doctor Victor Hasslein learns of the ultimate fate of the human race and the planet Earth. He convinces the President that the apes are a threat to Humankind. Cornelius and Zira are taken to a military base for further interrogation. After escaping, they flee to a circus where Zira, now pregnant, gives birth to the baby Milo. Shortly thereafter, Cornelius and Zira are killed, and Milo begins his long education under the care of Armando, the owner of the circus. (Escape From the Planet of the Apes)

1973

Eight complex years marked by contradictory developments in two aspects of society. Space exploration expands. Unmanned space probes range to the stars and back. Manned flights over greater distances are becoming more common. At the same time however, the governments of Earth are becoming more totalitarian in order to cope with increasing economic, political and energy pressures. All information concerning the two lost spaceships and the secrets of the future as revealed by Cornelius and Zira is locked away under heavy security clearance. Few are allowed access to it. Publicly, it is spread that the two talking chimpanzees were merely a hoax, and nothing more. Armando gives Milo the name of "Caesar."

1979

August:
Astronauts Allen, Hudson and Franklin are launched from Earth. Their vessel enters a strange energy distortion and disappears. (Animated Planet of the Apes)

1981

March:
Astronauts Virdon, Burke and Jones are launched from Earth. Their ship encounters a strange electrical storm near Alpha Centauri and disappears. Caesar, aged 8 1/2, begins his bareback riding acrobatics with Armando's circus. With political repression, the smaller circuses are forced to play to dwindling country audiences, thus helping Caesar avoid dangerous publicity. (Planet of the Apes TV)

1984

The year of the Plague from space. Possibly brought back to Earth by an unmanned space probe (Many records were lost in the War), the Plague spreads over the planet in weeks, killing all cats and dogs. "Apparently" harmless to humans and other animal species.

1984 to 1991

It is during this period of time that the repercussions of the Plague begin to be felt. Humans, to replace their lost pets, turn to keeping small primates, birds, lizards, etc. The primates are found to be the most useful and gradually become the most common household animal. Gradually, larger and larger ones are taken in. It is in this generation of primates that the Plague's genetic effects show themselves: stature increases and so does intelligence in the larger orders. The Government increases to be more and more authoritarian. A reverse migration of people from suburbs into cities results in large towns becoming mostly feudal ports surrounded by farmland; the "provinces." Pollution in many areas is brought under control. A massive air purification plant in the Rockies keeps California air perfectly clean. However, with this increase in governmental structure a slave class develops: the apes. Ape Management, Incorporated becomes a semi-public branch of the Government in late 1989. By 1991 they are a monolith, now fully government operated, with a huge range of responsibilities.
The apes' training and day-to-day life with humans brings on an acceleration in the mental development of the apes.

1991

April:
Armando decides that Caesar, now nearly eighteen and an accomplished performer, is old enough to see the truth of the "ape condition." He brings the circus to play at an unnamed city on the west coast (very likely San Francisco). There, Caesar unwittingly reveals his intelligence to police officers engaged in subduing a rebellious gorilla. Caesar runs and Armando goes to the Governor, attempting to bluff their way out of the situation. He is arrested. The Governor, fully believing that the runaway chimpanzee possesses human intelligence, is almost panic-stricken at the thought of ape rebellion. Caesar, in an attempt to blend in with the other apes, hides with a shipment of apes going to Ape Management. There, he is conditioned, though he understands the process and avoids the harsher punishments. He is purchased by Governor Breck, who is unaware of his prize. After learning of Armando's death as a result of interrogation about him, Caesar begins to plant the seeds of rebellion in the clouded minds of the apes. (Conquest of the Planet of the Apes)

June:
Eighteen years after his birth, Caesar comes of age at the head of the Ape Rebellion. The fall of Humankind begins. (Conquest of the Planet of the Apes)

June 1991 to late 1992

Caesar leads his people from the city into the provinces. In this case, the San Francisco peninsula. Here, Caesar attempts to build a new home for his people with the aid of a few human advisors. Massive educational programs within the community are developed. They face little harassment because elsewhere in the country and perhaps the world, the Ape Rebellion is spreading. The Government's breakdown has begun and it cannot police itself as in the past. Tension grows, until...

1992

December:
NUCLEAR WAR.
The work of a single madman? International political pressure? Some country taking advantage of a U.S. governmental paralysis? Unknown. It is swift and effective. Laser defensive systems prevent the war from utterly destroying all life. Major cities are destroyed, but surrounding areas remain livable... to a certain degree.

1992 to 2001

The human population that remains is in a state of shock. There is little or no communication over great distances, so Caesar's community, now completely isolated, accepts the survivors in its area and a new ape/human society begins to grow. Despite Caesar's wishes, humans become effectively second-class citizens, and cultural divisions among the apes begin to develop. A gorilla named Aldo declares himself General and begins to train an "army" of gorilla soldiers. In 1995, Caesar's son is born by his wife, Lisa, and named Cornelius.
During this time residual radiation is having its effect on both humans and apes. The Plague-altered genes of the apes increase their already rapid intellectual development, in some cases (i.e., Virgil and Mandemus) incredibly so. Humans tend to become more docile, less given to action when angered. It is not clear at this time whether that is a radiation effect, Plague effect or just living with the evolved apes, the weakest of whom could kill the average human easily.
Meanwhile, another branch of Humanity is developing: the ones that survived the War but stayed in the cities, the Mutants. Inspector Kolp, a former aide to Governor Breck, has taken over in the remains of San Francisco and runs a scavenger city full of repressed hate.

2001

December:
Caesar, along with Virgil and a human, MacDonald, venture to the remains of San Francisco in search of the tapes made of Cornelius and Zira, thereby unlocking the secrets of the future. They are discovered by Mutants and just barely escape. However, they are followed back to Ape City. Kolp launches an attack on Caesar's community in a last-ditch effort to destroy the Ape Rebellion. The attack is repelled by the apes. The humans living in the Ape City win a slightly ideological victory and temporary equal status with the apes. Kolp, Aldo and young Cornelius die. (Battle for the Planet of the Apes)

2001 to 2040

This, the first Ape City, grows. Caesar rules benevolently and well but human position in the community continues to erode, seemingly without solution. The Forbidden Zone begins to become a real danger as animal and plant mutations get out of hand. In the city of San Francisco, the Mutants are splitting into factions under the leadership of Mendez and the being destined to become One with the Gesalt Mind.

2038

August:
Lisa dies.

2040

May:
Caesar dies, at 67. Not survived by children, his rule is turned over to a council of apes and humans under the leadership of a particularly well-respected orangutan. He and the office are christened "Lawgiver."

2040 to 2052

Conditions between apes and humans get worse. While educational programs maintain that there is no difference, humans labor under an aura of inferiority. Voluntarily, they tend to withdraw from active participation in the council and draw themselves into a community-within-the-community, separated by a river from the apes. It is only partially a ghetto. The level of culture is falling.
In the city, the Mutant factions have gone to war with one another, the followers of the Gesalt Mind winning out. Mendez and his loyal followers manage to escape into transnational transport tubes and work their way towards an unknown new home. They take with them the Alpha-Omega device, which has begun to carry an almost religious significance with it.

2052

Jason the human and Alexander the chimpanzee are born. (Marvel Comics Planet of the Apes)

2052 to 2069

A gorilla named Brutus rises to a position of power in the Ape City hierarchy. He is appointed Peace Officer under the second Lawgiver. Jason and Alexander become friends. Human position grows slowly but steadily worse. (Marvel Comics Planet of the Apes)

2069

July:
General Brutus' scouts encounter the Inheritors in caves near the Forbidden City. Brutus investigates and becomes ally/underling of the Gesalt Mind in a power ploy aimed at taking control of Ape City. The original scouts are "persuaded" to forget what they saw. (Marvel Comics Planet of the Apes)

2070

Jason, Alexander and the Lawgiver are embroiled in a conflict with the Inheritors. At the same time they begin to get a hint of what is happening in the world outside Ape City's tiny boundaries. A man/ape mute mutation has begun to live in the Forbidden Zone, some serving as slaves of the Mutants. Gigantic animals roam everywhere. Many small, semi-nomadic communities of apes and humans also exist, each as isolated as the others. In certain of these, a startling equity of apes and humans has developed. But, can it last? (Marvel Comics Planet of the Apes)

2070 to 2220

A large leap of time that can only roughly be filled in. Both ape and human cultures expand into the Forbidden Zones, taming them as population needs demand. However, these cultures tend to isolate and grow bitter towards one another. Humans, devolving due to the radiation, are becoming more barbaric. A sudden, fierce strain develops out of the docility in evidence just after the War. Clearly, the human and gorilla armies are in their way to war.
n this period, Mendez's mutant groups have reached what was once New York City and have established themselves there. Mixture of their bloodline with the local mutants begins to produce rudimentary telepathic powers.

2220

October:
Gorilla and human armies slaughter one another in battle thirty or forty miles north of San Francisco. Two survivors, Solomon the gorilla and Jovan the human, form an uneasy but necessary truce. They are healed and taught by the hermit man/ape Mordecai and meet their death in San Francisco at the hands of the animalistic ape and human mutants.
This is the balancing point in the history. It is where the human devolvement coincides with the ape evolution most clearly. It is also the last gasp of human aggressiveness.

2220 to 2750

Humans are defeated and become, primarily, a slave culture tolerated but completely unrespected by the apes. Gorillas dominate the apes now, and it is an age of exploration. Populations push out in all directions. Land is tamed and with slave help, cultivated. New outposts are set up and contact is made with other surviving groups from the War. Not a few minor wars are caused by gorilla aggressiveness. On the whole, however, a peaceful time as energies are channeled into retaking a world.
The cultural heritage of Caesar's Ape City gains a widespread usage and regional governments are often designed after the Lawgiver/Council mold.
Some bands of renegade humans do exist and continually harass ape outposts.

2750

One particularly daring raid into a fairly large ape population causes an outraged public cry from the apes. Systematic destruction of the outlaw bands is instituted. The Lawgiver of the day (whether only a regional level Lawgiver or more is unknown) writes the Sacred Scrolls and their rather unflattering portrait of Humanity.

2750 to 3085

The general spread of the Sacred Scrolls proves to be a reactionary move, and their influence reinstates the earlier days of isolation. When growth has slowed in the previous century, orangutans take more and more of the power formerly in the hands of the gorillas. Now they rule completely.
The loss of communication between population centers is slow at first but speeds up when Forbidden Zones start to become unlivable again.
This time, it is largely the result of poor conservation techniques. The radiation-blasted soil starts to give up and the deserts, as deserts, bloom.
Humankind grows completely docile.
Cultural patterns in the isolated areas retain shards and snippets of others. Thus, one area might continue to have the Lawgiver officer while another might operate completely differently. The Ape City near New York City becomes isolated in this period after its incorporation into the Pan American Ape Society in the previous growth period. It was not a colony of the first Ape City, but developed independently and therefore does not have an historical record that accurately chronicles the west coast developments.

3085

June:
Astronauts Alan Virdon and Peter Burke crash-land but survive (unlike their fellow astronaut) in the region of the United States that was once southwestern California. At this time the ape government which rules over most of the area is an orangutan faction headed by Doctor Zaius. General Urko, a gorilla, works cooperatively with him, with continual "reminding" that Zaius is in charge. Urko chafes at the situation. To Zaius and Urko, the constant threat of the renegade astronauts starting a human rebellion leaves the apes with the task of apprehending and executing them. The astronauts gain the chimpanzee Galen as a friend and traveling companion. Between them they leave a few traces of twentieth century human culture, like certain agricultural and farming techniques, that don't do much good for the humans but eventually serve to advance ape civilization. Virdon, Burke and Galen have fates as yet untold. (TV Planet of the Apes)

3085

The fall of Humankind is complete. By approximately 3400, the combination of radiation deterioration and general demoralization succeeds in wiping the minds from Humanity. They are forced away from the ape cities as unproductive and useless animals. They begin to live in the forests, wild.

3479

February:
Astronauts Bill Allen, Jeff Hudson and Judy Franklin crash-land in a lagoon southwest of New York. While traversing the desert, Franklin disappears into a chasm that mysteriously closes in on itself. Allen and Hudson continue on to find a forested glade inhabited by savage humans. In a raid by gorilla soldiers, Allen is captured along with several of the primitive humans. Shortly thereafter, he escapes and along with Hudson, returns to the Forbidden Zone. There, they discover the now buried ruins of New York City. After finding Franklin, they escape the mutants of the city. It is unknown as to what eventually became of the astronauts. (Animated Planet of the Apes)

3479

Continually encroaching Forbidden Zones have brought on a complete Dark Age. Progress slows to a halt in some areas, like the New York Ape City. There, all knowledge that humans once had a major civilization is lost. It becomes mere legend, and then almost nothing at all. It is either lost or concealed by conservative orangutans. Progressive chimpanzee elements are stifled.
Late in this period humans begin to be used as experimental animals and entertaining hunting diversions for the gorillas. A certain instinctive survival pattern remains in the humans but it is less than successful.

3955

March:
The spacecraft containing three surviving males (Taylor, Dodge and Landon), along with one dead female (Stewart), crash-lands in an inland sea somewhere in the area south of what was once Long Island. Land masses have shifted so that is no longer ocean. The astronauts journey across the barren desert to a forested area, where they find representatives of what was once the human race. In a gorilla raid, Taylor and Landon are captured but are separated, and Dodge is killed. Taken to Ape City, Doctors Zira and Cornelius discover Taylor's intelligence. The council perceives this as a threat and makes plans to exterminate the human. During a mock trial, Taylor discovers that Landon has undergone brain surgery, leaving him a mental vegetable. Zira and Cornelius take Taylor and his female companion, Nova, into the Forbidden Zone to the site of an archeological expedition conducted by Cornelius. Taylor and Nova escape from Zaius and the gorilla patrols farther into the Forbidden Zone. There, Taylor discovers that he has in fact returned to Earth. (Planet of the Apes)

July:
Ape City is awash in political undercurrents. Zaius has succeeded in quashing the ripples caused by Taylor's appearance and abilities, but General Ursus, campaigning for war, is beyond his control. Several scouts are lost in the Forbidden Zone not long after Taylor disappears and war is on. There is also a chimpanzee undercurrent, and while pretending to go along with Zaius, Cornelius and Zira have secretly been aiding the genius chimpanzee Doctor Milo in his studies of a rescued spacecraft, the one Taylor had arrived in. He is analyzing it and attempting to ready it for flight. They plan to use it as the kind of traumatic evidence they feel Ape City needs to escape the total loss of the light of Truth.

September:
Brent's ship lands. He is the only survivor. He encounters Nova, lost after Taylor's strange disappearance at the ruins of New York City. After an encounter with Zira, Cornelius, the gorillas and Ape City, Brent and Nova travel to the Forbidden City in search of Taylor. (Beneath the Planet of the Apes)

Brent's arrival plus two days:
THE END.
The Alpha-Omega bomb, originally stored in the vaults of a San Francisco missile complex and cherished by twenty generations of the House of Mendez, is detonated while in Saint Patrick's Cathedral in the ruins of New York City.
The end of everything.
A catalytic reaction spreads across the globe in minutes. Shockwaves of the blast are sent into space and strike the spacecraft containing Doctors Milo, Cornelius and Zira. The ship is thrown into a time warp, cast back to.... (Beneath the Planet of the Apes)

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Now all 14 episodes (including "The Liberator," which never aired during the show's original run) have been compiled and are available to own for the first time. After their spacecraft travels through a time warp, two astronauts (Ron Harper, James Naughton) from 1981 crash-land back on Earth in the year 3085-a time when... read more See all editorial reviews... Spotlight Reviews (what's this) Write an online review and share your thoughts with other customers. 2 of 2 people found the following review helpful: Wonderful!, January 9, 2002 Reviewer: Don Wurzelbacher (see more about me) from Cincinnati, Ohio USA This 4 Disk set of Planet of the Apes episodes from the 1974 series is a treasure for anyone who is a fan of the Apes films. Ron Harper and James Naughton play two astronauts who crash land on earth and eventually befriend an ape named Galen played by Roddy McDowell. The three are running away from Gorilla leader Urko who believes that the humans threaten the existence of their society. The plots are simple, the makeup is certainly not as believable as in the movies (The TV budget was minimal), but if you expect to find a series set as today's standards and budget, you are looking in the wrong place anyway. The series was entertaining and it's fun to watch today. Unfortunately in its original airing it never found an audience so it was cancelled after only a few months, but if you enjoy the Planet of the Apes movies, you will probably enjoy these wonderful stories...you get 14 episodes in the package. I love it and will continue to enjoy these teleplays for years to come. Was this review helpful to you?   11 of 12 people found the following review helpful: IT'S ABOUT TIME!, September 5, 2001 Reviewer: chucky (see more about me) from Orono, Me USA First let me say I believe this is the first time ever 20th century fox has released the t.v. series on home video, and better yet--it's on DVD! This television series I feel is very underrated. I watched this show when I was a kid and I felt all the episodes were very worthy short stories. The series is about two astronauts that wind up on the PLANET OF THE APES! The series timeline is supposed to be a few thousand years before the first movie! The astronauts are played by RON HARPER & JAMES NAUGHTON! Of course, RODDY MCDOWALL plays Galen and MARK LEONARD(Sarek of "STAR TREK")plays Urko, leader of the gorrila apes. Every episode is done very well and should be in your collection if you're a fan of THE PLANET OF THE APES at all. One of the episodes even has a young MARC SINGER(V, THE BEASTMASTER)! All in all, a very fine series, despite what the critics thought at the time! Buy it today! Was this review helpful to you?   All Customer Reviews Avg. Customer Review: Write an online review and share your thoughts with other customers. 1 of 2 people found the following review helpful: AT LAST, The release of the Planet of the Apes TV series, June 29, 2002 Reviewer: drzaius3085 (see more about me) from Anderson, Indiana United States AT Last,the wait is over Ape fans! 20th Century Fox has released the Planet of the Apes TV series on DVD! This DVD release is outstanding. No more cut up reruns on Sci-Fi, no more compiled 2 hour versions with cut out parts and worn out dark film. Here they are in clear, crisp,format like they were ment to be seen. I bought 4 of the VHS sets from Austraila a few years ago when Fox released them over there. (Still have one entire set sealed. Any one want to buy it?) I thought that that would be the best I would ever get them but the DVD's blow the VHS out of the water. As far as some of the complaints about the occasional white specks, I own The Deception and the 2 hour compiled made for TV movie Back to the Planet of the Apes (Escape from Tomorrow and The Trap) on 16MM film. They have the same specks. I think that maybe Fox used lower quality film for TV. (The Adam West and Burt Ward Batman series does the same thing.)Just be happy that Fox finally released them after all of these years. Now if we could just get them to release the anamiated Planet of the Apes TV series we would be set! Was this review helpful to you?   2 of 2 people found the following review helpful: Better than you would think, May 17, 2002 Reviewer: Marshall L. Smith Jr. (see more about me) from Greensboro, NC USA I just barely remember this series on TV when I was a kid. I remembered no episode plots or details, only the fact that there was a series. But being a fan of the movies (sans the recent Tim Burton fiasco) I decided to see how well the series holds up. I was pleasantly surprised that the episodes, having been produced in the 70's, were quite entertaining. I've watched all the episodes and not once found myself skipping scenes. I truly enjoyed watching -- enough so that I purchased it after renting first. Since this is a period series, albeit in the future, it holds up pretty well. There are things in the old city ruins and onboard the spaceship in the pilot that give away the time period in which the show was made, but it doesn't detract from the enjoyment of the show. A real plus for PotA movie fans. Was this review helpful to you?   See all customer reviews... 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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:49 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Ape Writing System

In a message dated 9/12/02 11:20:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rcisak@... writes:

Don't forget one thing, with each sequel, the budgets got smaller and smaller.  They didn't have too much money to design new ape costumes for each movie.

Yeeeeeeeeeeesssss.  Hey, who are you?

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:48 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Hello All...new to the group

In a message dated 9/12/02 11:17:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rcisak@... writes:

I was in the Virgin Megastore in Times Square the other day, and what did I come across, but the collected episodes of the live action tv show on DVD.  It wasn't too expensive, either.

Don't get around much, do 'ya?

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--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> You know as much about the intentions of the filmmakers as I do,
James, and a
> lot of what they've been quoted as saying is "contestable." So
don't speak
> to me in absolutes as to what the filmmakers intented. YOU GOT
> THAT!!!!!!!!!!! YOU BLOODY. . . .!!!
>
> -- Rory

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> I love when those guys in New York say stuff like that! What a
bunch of
> mommalukes!

> In a message dated 9/12/02 5:43:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
>
> > Now tell me....what do you call a rare Apes collectible?
> >
> > Surely a few years ago you would have said "Poppin' Shotguns -

> > heard of these!", just before a case of 50 was found. The drum

> > still
> > up there with the radio, what else do you consider RARE?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
>
> Not meaning any offense to you guys who collect this stuff, but I

> to get it out that a lot of the "POTA collectibles" kind of depress

> Hong Kong made piece of crap that has the POTA logo on it is for me

> removed from Boulle and the movies as to be from another PLANET.

> it's just me, so please go on and discuss a POTA drum kit and

> sort of interesting.
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> Take it easy, big guy!

On Thursday, September 12, 2002, at 11:02 PM, Richard Cisak Jr. wrote:

> I get around a lot. What's your point?

> In a message dated 9/13/02 12:16:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
>
> > Some of the stuff is crap and far removed, but there was a lot of
> > great stuff too. I would have killed to have a POTA Transistor

> >
> > When I got older I decided that if I have the movies, why would I
> > need stills, photos, books, lobby cards etc. Luckily I grew out

> > this!
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
>
> I was the same way. I was still collecting POTA poster and stills

> home video thing happened and I had the movies on tape. At that

> stopped collecting the other stuff. It wasn't until around 1998

> started collecting again.
>
> What made the radio a POTA radio? Did it just have a POTA logo on

>
> -- Rory
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 8:47 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Blacklisted POTA people

In a message dated 9/12/02 9:16:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

  Jeff Corey was. By the way, "Variety" just got around to publishing his
obit yesterday. Better late than never. He's going to have a memorial Sept.
28. - - - Jeff

That Variety needs to keep on the ball.  I'll be interested when Mort Abrahams goes.  I expect I'll only hear about that in someplace like Variety.  Abrahams knows all the production dirt that would make a good commentary track on a S.E. POTA DVD.  When he goes, that's that.  Bill Creber still knows some stuff.  But the one person still living that was involved with PLANET that I'll be most upset when he dies is. . . . guess

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Richard Cisak Jr.

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Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 8:53 PM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Amazon.com buying info Planet of the Apes - The Complete TV Series.htm

 

Richard's Gold Box

DVD Used DVDs VHS DVD & VHS Movie Showtimes All Products   Explore This DVD     buying info     technical information     Amazon.com articles     editorial reviews     customer reviews I dislike it I love it! 1 2 3 4 5 I own it Edit your ratings Favorite Magazines! Subscribe to entertainment magazines today. 7-Day Cruises from only $599. Visit the Books Store Planet of the Apes Revisited by Joe Russo, et al Save $20 on your next Amazon.com purchase when you spend $99 in Kitchen & Housewares. So You'd Like to... watch dvd's on night long: A guide by miketheman, amateur movie critic, movie goer, movie maker Create your guide

Ship to: Richard Cisak Jr.Brooklyn- NYJeanne Scanlon & Rosalie TricaRichard Cisa- [2]----OR----Add an address Add gift-wrap/note Used & new from $32.99 Have one to sell? - or - Don't have one? We'll set one up for you. Planet of the Apes - The Complete TV Series (1974) see larger picture List Price: $49.98 Our Price: $44.98 You Save: $5.00 (10%) Used & new from $32.99 Availability: Usually ships within 24 hours Edition:   This item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping. See details. See more product details Great Buy Buy this DVD with Planet of the Apes - The Evolution (Complete Serie... DVD today! Total List Price: $139.96 Buy Together Today: $125.96 Customers who bought this DVD also bought: DVDs from The Star Trek Feature Films Series. Behind the Planet of the Apes DVD DVDs from The Star Trek: The Original Series Series. DVDs from The Space: 1999 Series. Explore similar items Product Details Starring : Planet of the Apes, Roddy Mcdowell, See more Encoding: Region 1 (US and Canada only) Format: Color, Closed-captioned, Box set Rated: NR Studio: Twentieth Century Fox DVD Features: Collectible 4-disc set includes all 14 episodes Number of discs: 4 ASIN: B00005PJ8W Average Customer Review: Based on 28 reviews. Write a review. Amazon.com Sales Rank (DVD): 4,874 Click here for more technical details about this edition... What's Your Advice? Is there an item you'd recommend instead of or in addition to this one? Let the world know! Enter the item's ASIN (what's an ASIN?) in the box below, select advice type, then click Submit. I recommend: in addition to this product instead of this product Editorial Reviews Amazon.com Those immersed in the Planet of the Apes universe will go bananas for this DVD-only boxed set containing all 14 episodes of this obscure 1974 TV series based on the 1968 sci-fi classic. Ron Harper and James Naughton star as two astronauts who crash-land on the simian-ruled planet. Roddy McDowall (Cornelius in the Apes films) is Emmy-worthy as "renegade ape" Galen, who befriends them and helps them elude capture by the relentless General Urko. At its best, this series presented thoughtful stories in which the fugitives bridged the human-ape gap ("The Deception"). Of special interest is the episode "The Liberators," which was never broadcast during the series' fleeting run. Notable guest stars include Marc "Beastmaster" Singer ("The Gladiators"), Roscoe Lee Browne ("Tomorrow's Tide"), Sondra Locke ("The Cure"), and a pre-Bad News Bears Jackie Earle Haley ("The Legacy"). --Donald Liebenson From the Back Cover It changed the face of television forever. Based on the enormously popular and successful Planet of the Apes movie, the 1974 TV series has become a true cult classic. Now all 14 episodes (including "The Liberator," which never aired during the show's original run) have been compiled and are available to own for the first time. After their spacecraft travels through a time warp, two astronauts (Ron Harper, James Naughton) from 1981 crash-land back on Earth in the year 3085-a time when... read more See all editorial reviews... Spotlight Reviews (what's this) Write an online review and share your thoughts with other customers. 2 of 2 people found the following review helpful: Wonderful!, January 9, 2002 Reviewer: Don Wurzelbacher (see more about me) from Cincinnati, Ohio USA This 4 Disk set of Planet of the Apes episodes from the 1974 series is a treasure for anyone who is a fan of the Apes films. Ron Harper and James Naughton play two astronauts who crash land on earth and eventually befriend an ape named Galen played by Roddy McDowell. The three are running away from Gorilla leader Urko who believes that the humans threaten the existence of their society. The plots are simple, the makeup is certainly not as believable as in the movies (The TV budget was minimal), but if you expect to find a series set as today's standards and budget, you are looking in the wrong place anyway. The series was entertaining and it's fun to watch today. Unfortunately in its original airing it never found an audience so it was cancelled after only a few months, but if you enjoy the Planet of the Apes movies, you will probably enjoy these wonderful stories...you get 14 episodes in the package. I love it and will continue to enjoy these teleplays for years to come. Was this review helpful to you?   11 of 12 people found the following review helpful: IT'S ABOUT TIME!, September 5, 2001 Reviewer: chucky (see more about me) from Orono, Me USA First let me say I believe this is the first time ever 20th century fox has released the t.v. series on home video, and better yet--it's on DVD! This television series I feel is very underrated. I watched this show when I was a kid and I felt all the episodes were very worthy short stories. The series is about two astronauts that wind up on the PLANET OF THE APES! The series timeline is supposed to be a few thousand years before the first movie! The astronauts are played by RON HARPER & JAMES NAUGHTON! Of course, RODDY MCDOWALL plays Galen and MARK LEONARD(Sarek of "STAR TREK")plays Urko, leader of the gorrila apes. Every episode is done very well and should be in your collection if you're a fan of THE PLANET OF THE APES at all. One of the episodes even has a young MARC SINGER(V, THE BEASTMASTER)! All in all, a very fine series, despite what the critics thought at the time! Buy it today! Was this review helpful to you?   All Customer Reviews Avg. Customer Review: Write an online review and share your thoughts with other customers. 1 of 2 people found the following review helpful: AT LAST, The release of the Planet of the Apes TV series, June 29, 2002 Reviewer: drzaius3085 (see more about me) from Anderson, Indiana United States AT Last,the wait is over Ape fans! 20th Century Fox has released the Planet of the Apes TV series on DVD! This DVD release is outstanding. No more cut up reruns on Sci-Fi, no more compiled 2 hour versions with cut out parts and worn out dark film. Here they are in clear, crisp,format like they were ment to be seen. I bought 4 of the VHS sets from Austraila a few years ago when Fox released them over there. (Still have one entire set sealed. Any one want to buy it?) I thought that that would be the best I would ever get them but the DVD's blow the VHS out of the water. As far as some of the complaints about the occasional white specks, I own The Deception and the 2 hour compiled made for TV movie Back to the Planet of the Apes (Escape from Tomorrow and The Trap) on 16MM film. They have the same specks. I think that maybe Fox used lower quality film for TV. (The Adam West and Burt Ward Batman series does the same thing.)Just be happy that Fox finally released them after all of these years. Now if we could just get them to release the anamiated Planet of the Apes TV series we would be set! Was this review helpful to you?   2 of 2 people found the following review helpful: Better than you would think, May 17, 2002 Reviewer: Marshall L. Smith Jr. (see more about me) from Greensboro, NC USA I just barely remember this series on TV when I was a kid. I remembered no episode plots or details, only the fact that there was a series. But being a fan of the movies (sans the recent Tim Burton fiasco) I decided to see how well the series holds up. I was pleasantly surprised that the episodes, having been produced in the 70's, were quite entertaining. I've watched all the episodes and not once found myself skipping scenes. I truly enjoyed watching -- enough so that I purchased it after renting first. Since this is a period series, albeit in the future, it holds up pretty well. There are things in the old city ruins and onboard the spaceship in the pilot that give away the time period in which the show was made, but it doesn't detract from the enjoyment of the show. A real plus for PotA movie fans. Was this review helpful to you?   See all customer reviews... 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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:22 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ape fashions

In a message dated 9/13/02 12:18:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Please don't make me quote Dehn again.

You may quote Dehn whenever you wish, Mr. James.

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

--- In pota@y..., <veetus@e...> wrote:
> "Rory is right. My father decided it didn't make sense for there
to be only one timeline and asked Arthur Jacobs, the producer, to
remove the bomb scenes from "Battle of the Planet of the Apes". Mr.
Jacobs did it as a favor to my father because he loved his work
on "Escape From the Planet of the Apes". Unfortunately, my father
did not live long enough to see the Marvel chronology. He would have
been very flattered." Etc. - - - Paul Dehn, Jr.

----- Original Message -----
From: "apefan23" <apefan23@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 6:02 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] morning


> man !! I have alot of catching up to do so I'll throw in my
> comments before I have to get to work.....not sure who said what
> but...
>
> T, I believe, no problem about the hazel eyes thing...they always
> looked blue to me but they were beautiful and sparkling
> regardless....from your pics it looks like you knew Kim very well
> so this must be particularly hard on you....i am so sorry. How did
> you meet her? would love to see more pics of you two...and
> would like to know anything about where to send cards and
> such....
>
> I will have to look for 9/11 in Beneath.....spooky.....
>
> I am not 23 years old......23 is a lucky number...was born on
> september 23.......
>
> The collectible discussion...I started collecting in 1974 when all
> this crap was coming out because I had just recently seen most
> of the movies and was so into them and then the series and the
> toys and MAN was I flyin'!! I kept it all in a big box that had been
> floating around from my parents attic to a warehouse.....then
> when I decided just a few years ago to get rid of my warehouse
> storage space i opened this box and was swept over with a wave
> of nostalgia ...i had kept things in pretty good shape and that Ape
> euphoria just hit me again.....started going online...ebay etc....just
> to see if any of this stuff was worth anything...and discovered it
> was...but then started seeing all the stuff I wanted then but never
> got (of course it wan't 47 cents anymore either!)...that did it and
> so my collection has blown into this obsession.......i know that
> most of it is just cheap plastic hong kong crap...but if it has THE
> logo or any pics on it.....I gotta have it!!! (it has to be official
> APJAC /20thCF licensed stuff...no Japanese rip offs for me
> thanks...)
>
> The rarer things i consider to be the stuff that shows up very very
> rarely on ebay...like the bath mat or the drumset.....It is wierd that
> something will surface like kites or iron ons and then all of a
> sudden they are everywhere.....I'll take some pics of my ape
> room and post them soon.....
>
> .UNFORTUNATELY this crappy new movie (and I am not tim
> Burton by the way.....i don't think I'd be calling the movie crap!)
> used THE logo so I started getting stuff from it before I saw the
> movie...and still get some new stuff but mostly just dealing with
> Thade and Attar ....
>
> Before july 27 2001 i was very much looking forward to the film
> and the official website was full of very cool insight into the ape
> world and mythology and production designs and GREAT
> stuff....then they threw all that out the window when they
> filmed.....! oh well.......
> what else haven't I covered....i'm not sure yet of all the distinctive
> personalities of all the members here but that will take
> time....like I said I'm just glad to talk to people that even know
> what a Hasslein theory or Grapejuice Plus are!
>
> Have a great day fellas (and ladies? any ladies?) and I'll catch
> youze later.......
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "james611102" <JamesA1102@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 6:05 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ape fashions


> Boy you 2 timeline theory people are getting desperate, making up
> quotes. Here's Dehn biograghy, it doesn't mention him having a son.
>
> "Paul Dehn
> Born 5th. November, 1912, in Manchester, Britain; died 30th.
> September, 1976.
> British film critic, writer, poet, librettist, screenwriter.
>
> Full name: Paul Edward Dehn.
>
> His parents were Helen and Frederick Dehn. He was James Agate's
> godson.
>
> He went to Shrewsbury School and Brasenose College, Oxford
> University.
>
> From 1936 to 1939 he was a film critic and columnist for the Sunday
> Referee.
>
> During the Second World War he served as a major in the Special
> Forces from 1939 to 1945.
>
> From 1945 to 1953 he was a film critic for the Sunday Chronicle.
>
>
> In 1949/50 he met the composer James Bernard with whom he started a
> professional relationship but who also became his life partner. Paul
> Dehn asked James Bernard to collaborate with him on the original
> screen story for the Boulting Brothers film Seven Days To Noon,
> (1950). For this Paul Dehn and Jame Bernard shared the 1952 Academy
> Award for the Best Writing, Motion Picture Story.
>
> He was a film critic for the News Chronicle from 1954 to 1960, and
> for the Daily Herald from 1960 to 1963. He then concentrated on his
> writing for the film and theatre. In addition to the work listed
> below he wrote many songs and sketches for West End reviews. In 1957
> he received the Cheltanham Festival Poetry Prize.
>
> His hobby was ornithology and for a while he was a councillor for
> the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB). "
>
>
> --- In pota@y..., <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > "Rory is right. My father decided it didn't make sense for there
> to be only one timeline and asked Arthur Jacobs, the producer, to
> remove the bomb scenes from "Battle of the Planet of the Apes". Mr.
> Jacobs did it as a favor to my father because he loved his work
> on "Escape From the Planet of the Apes". Unfortunately, my father
> did not live long enough to see the Marvel chronology. He would have
> been very flattered." Etc. - - - Paul Dehn, Jr.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken and Heather Taylor" <ktaylor@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 4:01 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re:ape radio


> Here 'tis.
> Not mine though. I lifted this pic from Ebay when it was on auction.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In pota@y..., <veetus@e...> wrote:
> If he didn't have a son, then how would I be able to get the
quote, sir?
> He was supposedly gay, but there's plenty of gay people with kids.
As I said
> to my wife...Morgan Fairchild, yeah, that's the ticket...the ass
is always
> greener on the other side of the fence. Etc. - - - Jeff

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> Yeah, those planes really did a job on the city. James, how do
you stand
> living there?

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> James, have you lost your sense of humor?

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> I hear it's a hell of a town. The Bronx is up and the Battery's
down. And
> did you know that people ride around in a hole in the ground?

> knows some stuff. But the one person still living that was involved with
> PLANET that I'll be most upset when he dies is. . . . guess
>
> -- Rory

> Keeping that stuff around would be pretty incriminating. And how

> Caesar know what the gorillas and orangs wore. Why is it so hard to

> that Armando was curious about their culture and during a discussion

> Cornelius some sketches were drawn.

> Hey Rory---oh no...i don't think they drug the bomb across the
> US! There were probably several of them...including one in
> NYC.....you know I never thought about Conquest not being in
> LA...i just assumed since Z/C/M landed there....but Armando
> could have taken Ceaser to....Wyoming!

> In a message dated 9/12/02 2:31:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> writes:
>
> > go over to the left over there <<<<<<, and click on photos...my
> > "album: file folder is there as Apefan23
> >
> There is no "left" over there, no photos to click on.

> here's the shot. It's hard to tell but it looks more like a 19 than

> me.

>
> Mike Wilson was also blacklisted for being a "communist". I wonder

> in POTA besides Kim Hunter and Mike Wilson was blacklisted?

> Hardly. It is of course the master Jerry Goldsmith. Still active

> seventies. Boy, will I miss him when he's gone.

----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 6:16 AM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re:ape radio

In a message dated 9/13/2002 10:11:18 AM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Funny looking thing, isn't it.  Of course, I'd rather its photos were all from PLANET.

"All"??? "All"??? There's not one photo on there from Planet, just an Escape photo, and that drawing of Caesar & Aldo...

Which leads to my question to anyone who may know... Why did they use SOOOO MANY photos from Escape and Battle, (rather than Planet, Beneath, & Conquest?) on those toys, puzzles, etc...? Were they cheaper to license or something? It certainly can't be from a lack of photos from Planet, etc, as we all know there are plenty of them...

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .

--- In pota@y..., "Alan Maxwell" <alan@a...> wrote:
> <JamesA1102@a...>
> > here's the shot. It's hard to tell but it looks more like a 19
than
> a 9 to
> > me.
>
> Yeah, it's not the clearest, but it must be a 9 - why would it say
> "Tracks 19-11"?
>
> Alan

Hehe, that's the petition I started. :o) Please do sign if you haven't already.

ThyPentacle aka Pentaclese

 james611102 wrote: