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From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 8:52 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Hasslein's theory vs. ANSA's rescue mission

In a message dated 9/29/02 6:28:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, melkor@... writes:

Notice that Dr. Hasslein seemed to be the only one who figured out
that the ESCAPE apes had came from the future before Zira said so.  If his
theory had been popular then everyone else would have guessed where the apes
came from too, but no one else seemed to have a clue.

Yeah, that Dr. Hasslein got no respect.  Hey, wait a minute. . . . Why do we assume that the Dr. Hasslien of ESCAPE is the same one who came up with the Hasslien Theory?   Maybe it was his grandfather who was the Hasslien of the theory?

-- Rory

> Yeah, I mean Adam and Eve works in the Bible cos nobody was game to
> ask who Cane and Abel were humping (or they would have been burned

> the stake).
>
> Hmmm... If they were the first people, then who were all those

> dwelling in the land of Nod? Cavemen? Apes?
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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 9:25 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Unanswered Questions

In a message dated 9/29/02 9:08:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

  Yeah, and Nova covers up Taylor's mouth when he speaks. And in "Beneath"
she tries to talk. There's more going on here then meets the ear. - - Jeff

She covers his mouth because it's the apes that speak and she doesn't like hearing voices, but the writing in the sand thing. . . give me a break.  Not even Boulle would have Nova doing that in the book.  Hey, maybe this is a good question to ask Linda Harrison.  Somebody go post it on her website and let's see if she answers.

-- Rory

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 9:58 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Check out eBay item 1771831229 (Ends Oct-04-02 21:15...

In a message dated 9/29/02 11:29:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

  Joe Farrell has one with the sucker still in it and it's his pride and joy. And he's got a hell of a collection. - - - Jeff

That kind of POTA collecting I just don't get.  I think you have to BE A SUCKER to get excited about such an item.

-- Rory

----- Original Message -----
From: <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Check out eBay item 1771831229 (Ends O


> I just sent an email to the seller to ask WHY he is selling this....
>
> His answer....he just bought Joe Farrell's intact one.
>
> Small world.
>
> Michael
>
> --- <veetus@...> wrote:
> > His collection is pretty awesome and he's got rare "Superman"
> stuff too.
> > But he moved and I lost touch with him. Last I heard he was going
> to be a
> > lawyer (all great POTA collectors become lawyers...Eric Greene, Joe
> Farrell,
> > the founder of "Sacred Scrolls" magazine...). - - - Jeff
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <whitty@...>
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 8:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Check out eBay item 1771831229
> (Ends O
> >
> >
> > > Joe Farrell is the undisputed king of known POTA collectors.
> > >
> > > I hopr one day to view his collection.
> > >
> > > He said he would send me photos about 2 years ago, but he must
> have
> > > forgotten......
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > > --- <veetus@...> wrote:
> > > > Joe Farrell has one with the sucker still in it and it's his
> > > pride and jo
> > > > y. And he's got a hell of a collection. - - - Jeff
> > > >
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> > > this?!!!! I just
> > > > can't believe it! It's a madhouse!!! A Madhouse!!!! You
> don't
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> > > > the sucker!!!
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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 10:17 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Check out eBay item 1771831229 (Ends O

In a message dated 9/30/02 1:11:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

I just sent an email to the seller to ask WHY he is selling this....

His answer....he just bought Joe Farrell's intact one.

Small world.

Michael

Where in the world does Joe Farrell live?  How old is he?  Did he see PLANET in '68 or first found APES from seeing the TV series?  Why isn't he in this group?

-- Rory

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 10:42 PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Gorilla Warfare


> <PRE>If you want something to compare it to, it's a bit smaller than the
44-40
> round that the cowboys used for their Winchesters. Contrary to popular
> belief, Winchesters in .45 LC were not in production in the 1800s. There
my
> have been some custom special orders, but if a cowboys six-gun was in .45,
he
> had to carry two kinds of ammo. One for the Colt and one for the
Winchester.
> Though the Colt 45 is better know, many carried 44s to avoid having to
carry
> two different types of ammo in their belt and avoid a possible mix-up
during
> the heat of a gunfight. But I'm sounding like Patrick now, so I'll shut
up.
>
>
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>
>
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>

> In a message dated 9/30/02 1:21:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> veetus@... writes:
>
>
> > Funny stuff tonight, Rory! - - Jeff
> >
> >
>
> Yeah, I'm on a roll. So, what else do we want to talk about? Has

> left yet because his boss just caught him on the computer?!!! I

> has gone to bed. It's 1:28 am here ON THE EAST COAST!!! I've got

> as usual.
>
> -- Rory
>

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 LordTZer0@... wrote:

> In a message dated 9/30/02 2:04:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
>
> > My boss says hi!
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
>
> Get to work! How's the weather in Australia today? Where are you

> I want to go look it up on a map!
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 10:37 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Check out eBay item 1771831229 (Ends O

In a message dated 9/30/02 1:34:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

He doesn't like to be bothered by pesky "Ape" fans. He wants to be referred to as "Ape-O-Holics Anonymous" (oh, there's a picture of his collection in Eric Greene's book, maybe even the sucker). He's in his late 30's and he went college with director Bryan Singer (X-Men) and they traveled cross country back East to visit home during college. Singer is a big Lucas/Spielberg fan and when Joe mentioned POTA he said, "Oh, that paved the way for "Star Wars". But he moved, so I can't contact him. - - - Jeff

Well, he sounds like he thinks his monkey poo doesn't stink, so F him!
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From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 8:40 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Precious Cargo

And they couldn't even take Stewart to dinner and a movie before. - - - Jeff

Yeah, space sticks and Tang.
I believe the inflight movie was Planet of the Apes
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----- Original Message -----
From: <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Check out eBay item 1771831229 (Ends O


> Canberra - the Capital.
>
> Look South East.
>
>
> --- Haristas@... wrote:
> > In a message dated 9/30/02 2:04:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > whitty@... writes:
> >
> >
> > > My boss says hi!
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Get to work! How's the weather in Australia today? Where are you
> exactly.
> > I want to go look it up on a map!
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: <veetus@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 12:14 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Mad Max 4 you?


> Since we've been keeping abreast of news on that very POTA-like
franchise
> "Mad Max", here's the latest on the sequel. www.comingsoon.net says
director
> George Miller, Fox and Icon Prod. (Mel Gibson's company) are hammering out
> the details for it to start shooting in March at Fox Studios in Aussie.
I'll
> believe it when I see it but that would be cool. - - - Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <whitty@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 11:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Check out eBay item 1771831229 (Ends O
>
>
> > Canberra - the Capital.
> >
> > Look South East.
> >
> >
> > --- Haristas@... wrote:
> > > In a message dated 9/30/02 2:04:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > whitty@... writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > My boss says hi!
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Get to work! How's the weather in Australia today? Where are you
> > exactly.
> > > I want to go look it up on a map!
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
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----- Original Message -----
From: <veetus@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Check out eBay item 1771831229 (Ends O


> WHAT?! That's Joe's pride and joy! He always used to say, "Do you know
how
> hard it is to find a sucker that hasn't been eaten? From the '70's?!" He
was
> proud of that more than anything in his collection. Maybe he got
> married. - - - Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <whitty@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 10:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Check out eBay item 1771831229 (Ends O
>
>
> > I just sent an email to the seller to ask WHY he is selling this....
> >
> > His answer....he just bought Joe Farrell's intact one.
> >
> > Small world.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --- <veetus@...> wrote:
> > > His collection is pretty awesome and he's got rare "Superman"
> > stuff too.
> > > But he moved and I lost touch with him. Last I heard he was going
> > to be a
> > > lawyer (all great POTA collectors become lawyers...Eric Greene, Joe
> > Farrell,
> > > the founder of "Sacred Scrolls" magazine...). - - - Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <whitty@...>
> > > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 8:34 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Check out eBay item 1771831229
> > (Ends O
> > >
> > >
> > > > Joe Farrell is the undisputed king of known POTA collectors.
> > > >
> > > > I hopr one day to view his collection.
> > > >
> > > > He said he would send me photos about 2 years ago, but he must
> > have
> > > > forgotten......
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- <veetus@...> wrote:
> > > > > Joe Farrell has one with the sucker still in it and it's his
> > > > pride and jo
> > > > > y. And he's got a hell of a collection. - - - Jeff
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Haristas@...
> > > > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 1:57 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Check out eBay item 1771831229
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> > > > > -02 21:15:50 PDT ) - Planet of the
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Click here: eBay item 1771831229 (Ends Oct-04-02 21:15:50
> > PDT ) -
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> > > > > of the Apes Chocolate Lollipop 1974
> > > > >
> > > > > How's this for being nuts over anything APES? $200 for
> > > > this?!!!! I just
> > > > > can't believe it! It's a madhouse!!! A Madhouse!!!! You
> > don't
> > > > even get
> > > > > the sucker!!!
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--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> I really don't think Nova was that bright. She didn't even know
how to smile
> or play with dolls. I think she was just rubbing the sand because
Taylor did
> it.
>
> -- Rory

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> No! I don't want him to. He'll just screw it up on purpose to
ridicule and
> humiliate me! Oh, he's a wicked man! Wicked, I saaaaaay!!!

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> Well, they would treat him in the field because they wanted a
certain number
> of humans for research and it didn't look like the wound would
kill him very
> fast. The blood isn't spurting out of his neck so the jugular
vein wasn't
> hit, either was his neck bones or his voice box. Come to think of
it, Taylor
> was pretty lucky with that throat wound, what with being hit with
a rifle
> shot at close range. The bullet didn't even go through his neck!
What
> calibre were those gorilla rifles? You'd think they'd be .45s,
but that
> would have taken Taylor's head off at the neck. Probably
just .22s. Maybe
> the apes didn't know how to make the ammo larger.
>
> -- Rory

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> And, Zaius referring to an eastern desert implies that there's
also a western
> desert. What do you think is going on there?
>
> -- Rory

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> I've been away from the computer for a while, so maybe somebody
has already
> answered this, but, James, the cornfield where Zira and Lucius
meet up with
> Cornelius IS the same cornfield where the hunt was. Remember
Taylor says
> that Nova is close to home, "she knows it," that tells you it's
the same
> place, AND the fact that in reality it was shot on the same
location. Also,
> look at how fast the wagon was traveling when the party head out
to the
> Forbidden Zone, when Taylor drives the wagon. I'll bet that's
about as fast
> as Zira and Lucius went after they left Ape City. If they went
faster than
> they'd wear out the horses, and the horses didn't look too tired
when they
> did meet Cornelius.
>
> You know what my biggest problem is with the map and where the
escape party
> go after they enter the Forbidden Zone is? It's that on
Cornelius' map it
> shows that you'd have to cross either the river on the left, or
the entrance
> to the inland sea in order to get to the ocean. How did they
cross? It had
> to have been after they left the wagon, you couldn't get that
across. I
> guess they swam across with the horses, but I wish there was a
scene of that.
> That's why I wouldn't mind if the travel scenes in PLANET were
longer. I
> also just love looking at the desert and listening to that Jerry
Goldsmith
> music. I love the mood and atmosphere. I can't believe T skips
those
> scenes!
>
> -- Rory

>>

----- Original Message -----
From: <apefan23@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Chocolate Lollipop


> can you open this pic? i have to find a new way to post pics....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> What the hell? Looks like a forgery. I never heard of such a

> for real? But $700? - - - Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <apefan23@a...>
> To: <pota@y...>
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 6:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Chocolate

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> In a message dated 9/29/02 5:46:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> melkor@... writes:
>
>
> > I checked the movie database and saw Don Murray in a bunch of stuff, but
> > only
> > one thing that I've seen before which was Peggy Sue Got Married. I don't
> > remember seeing him in the movie or which character he played.
> >
> > If those damn dirty apes hadn't captured our beloved Republican Governor
> > Breck I bet he would have been President but Bush is the next best thing
> > to Breck.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Bush stole the election, the pussy rich boy! I think Don Murry played Peggy
> Sue's pop. You need to see more movies, man. Make time for it.
>
> -- Rory
>

>
> > The newsguy says he's written several learned dissertations on the nature
> > of time, so we can assume. - - - Jeff
> >
> >
>
> Well, it's just that Albert's theory has been around since like 1910 and all.
> That's all I mean.

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 9/30/02 9:43:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Apefan23 writes:
>
>
> > Anyone know what happened to the missing scene of Zira and Lucius
meeting a
> > guard on the wagon as in this pic?
> >
> [Unable to display image]
> This scene was shot (according to Lou Wagner [Lucius]) and I first
saw this
> photo on card 38 of the Topps set, then later in Famous Monsters of
Filmland,
> where the actor playing the gorilla was identified as Bob Lombardo,
which
> would make the gorilla the photographer at the hunt or Marcus, Head
of
> Security Police. The object over Zira's and Lucius' head is the
structure on
> the causeway across the lake in front of Ape City, where the
Lawgiver statue
> was. I don't know if Fox still has this scene in its vaults but I
hope so.
> One thing we can tell from the movie is that this scene was cut
before
> Goldsmith scored the picture.
>
> For those who've never read this scene in the screenplay or comic
adaptation,
> here it is:
>
> EXT. ANIMAL COMPOUND - MED. SHOT - NIGHT
>
> A horse-drawn caged wagon (like that used in the hunt) stands near
the
> building. Zira waits at the rear of the wagon. Lucius, Taylor and
Nova emerge
> from a doorway or archway and join her. Zira notes Nova's presence
with
> disapproval. They speak in undertones.
>
>
ZIRA
> (to
Lucius)
> I told you not to bring the other
one.
>
>
>
LUCIUS
> He wouldn't leave
her.
>
>
>
ZIRA
> (with a
sigh)
> All right...
> (to the
humans)
> Get in...hurry. Put this
on.
>
>
>
TAYLOR
> Listen-
>
>
ZIRA
> Taylor -- just keep quiet and we
may get
>
> away with this. Remember that men
all
>
> look alike to most apes.
>
> Taylor and Nova comply, climbing into the cage. Lucius closes the
tailgate.
> Lucius and Zira move to the front of the wagon and climb aboard.
Lucius takes
> the reins. As they move off:
>
> WIPE TO:
>
> EXT. LAKE AND CAUSEWAY - LONG HIGH ANGLE SHOT - NIGHT
>
> As previously established, the animal compound is on the outskirts
of
> Apetown. The abductors must cross the causeway on their route of
escape.
> In the distance, near the gazebo, we can see the lights of several
torches.
> The caged wagon rolls into scene and out onto the causeway. At the
same time
> a mounted gorilla leading two pack animals appears on the far side
of the
> causeway, coming toward CAMERA. Lucius stops the wagon.
>
> CLOSE TWO SHOT - LUCIUS AND ZIRA - ON THE WAGON
>
> LUCIUS
>
(apprehensively)
> Gorilla hunters ...
>
> ZIRA
> Keep moving. We can't turn back now.
>
> BOOM SHOT - THE CAUSEWAY
>
> As the mounted hunter nears the wagon, we can see two bodies slung
across the
> backs of the pack animals.
>
> FLASH SHOT - TAYLOR AND NOVA - IN WAGON CAGE
>
> They look out at:
>
> THE PASSING HORSES - FROM THEIR P.O.V.
>
> The bodies on the horses are naked human corpses.
>
> MED. LONG SHOT - THE CAUSEWAY - REVERSE ANGLE
>
> In immediate f.g., near the gazebo, is a similar wagon. It has
lost a wheel,
> and its rear axle lies on the edge of the causeway. Two naked
primitive
> males can be dimly seen within the cage. Four or five armed gorilla
hunters
> stand near the wagon: two of them carry torches; the others are
passing a jug
> from hand to hand. The leader of the Hunt Club, still on
horseback, holds up
> his hand as the lab wagon approaches.
> LEADER
> Hold it!
>
> Lucius obeys. The hunters on foot swarm around his wagon as their
leader
> calls authoritatively:
>
> LEADER
> Ah, Doctor Zira! Our wagon broke down!
I'm
>
> afraid we'll have to commandeer yours.
>
> 304 CLOSER ANGLE - THE LAB WAGON
>
> as the Hunt Club Leader rides over, recognizing the animal
psychologist.
>
> ZIRA
> You can't! I've two sick humans in
the
> cage. We're taking them to the chief
vet
>
> at the zoo ...
>
>
LEADER
> (indicating his own
wagon)
> We bagged two live ones today. I'll have
> to ask you to take them along.
>
> He moves to the rear of the wagon.
>
>
ZIRA
> (following him;
frantically)
> No, no, my animals are diseased...
Leave
>
> them alone! They're diseased, I tell
you!
>
> Lucius jumps down and runs toward the rear of the wagon.
>
> REVERSE ANGLE - REAR OF WAGON
>
> The hunters have opened the tailgate and are shining their torches
on the
> humans. They sound ready for sport.
>
> FIRST
HUNTER
> Give him a taste of
fire!
>
> One of the hunters points his torch at Taylor, who, quite
naturally, shrinks
> back as Lucius runs into scene.
>
>
LUCIUS
> Stand back! He's
dangerous!
>
>
> FIRST
HUNTER
> Why?
>
>
ZIRA
> He's rabid! His bite is
fatal!
>
>
> FIRST
HUNTER
> You serious?
>
>
LUCIUS
> You would die in
agony!
> (with appropriate
gestures)
> Frothing at the mouth!
>
> The hunters fall back. Lucius promptly locks the tailgate and he
and Zira run
> back to the front of the wagon. Lucius snaps the reins and the
wagon moves
> off. The hunters follow it a few paces, pausing near their mounted
leader.
>
> FIRST HUNTER
> They treat those animals better than they treat
us.
>
>
> LEADER
> I still say the only good human is a dead
human.
>
> The fugitives' wagon recedes beyond the gazebo, as
we:
>
> DISSOLVE TO:
>
> EXT. AN OPEN RANGE - LONG SHOT - DAWN
>
> The horse-drawn wagon is silhouetted-against the dawn light,
bumping across a
> semi-arid plain studded with mesquite and sage. (This SCENE can
be SHOT
> either on the Navajo reservation near Page or on the Ranch). [It
was shot at
> the ranch.]
>
> DISSOLVE TO:
>
> EXT. SAVANNA (OR CULTIVATED FIELDS) - LONG SHOT - MORNING
>
> This is the same area described on page 24, where the hunt
occurred. [Got
> that, James?] As the wagon rolls along a dirt track, the tall
grasses of the
> savanna (or cultivated field) can be seen in b.g.
>
> CLOSE TWO SHOT - TAYLOR AND NOVA - IN WAGON CAGE
>
> Taylor is dozing, but the girl is alert and nervous. She peers out
at the
> field, apparently recognizing or remembering this terrain. She
nudges Taylor,
> waking him.
>
> EXT. GROVE OF WILD FRUIT TREES - LONG PANNING SHOT - DAY
>
> This, too, is the location described on page 24. CAMERA PANS with
the wagon
> as it rolls into the grove and HOLDS on three horses. Cornelius
sits astride
> one horse; the other two nags are heavily burdened with packs and
saddlebags.
>
> 310 CLOSER ANGLE - THE GROVE - FAVORING CORNELIUS
>
> He dismounts as Zira and Lucius jump down from the wagon and hurry
toward
> him. Cornelius and his fiancee embrace and kiss lightly, ape-
fashion.
>
>
> CORNELIUS
> How did it
go?
>
> ZIRA
> There was one bad moment -- some hunters
stopped us.
>
>
LUCIUS
>
(calmly)
> I pursuaded them our beasts had rabies.

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
ZIRA
>
(reading)
> 'Do you have maps?'
>
> Cornelius puts the paper plane on his desk, crosses to a wall map
designed
> like a window shade. He pulls it down Taylor and Zira join him at
the map.
>
> CLOSE ON MAP
>
> It's not a map of the whole planet, of course, but only of that
portion known
> to the apes. Therefore it has the antique and fragmentary aspect of
a map
> drawn by some Babylonian cartographer. A swatch of blue at the
right margin
> indicates a sea. [Read it and weep, James, "A swatch of blue at the
right
> margin indicates a sea." That would be the Atlantic Ocean, and it
proves
> that the filmmakers didn't want to give away too much, so they had
the map
> made sideways with the ocean on the bottom.] In the southwest
quadrant are
> the "greenbelts" of the ape civilization, looking on the map like
jade stones
> strung on crescent-shaped necklace. Rubyidots in the lade indicate
ape
> communities. ["The southwest quadrant." See, as I've told you all,
esp. you
> James, the apes live southwest of the New York area, FAR southwest,
and the
> lake, the 'inland sea' is northeast of them and is, I contend,
Chesapake
> Bay.] The northwest quadrant, colored brown, is apparently
uninhabited. East
> of the green belts is a patch of green savanna, and next to it the
darker
> green of a jungle. The eastern quadrants are rendered in yellow,
and except
> for a blue lake, appear to be lifeless desert and barren mountain.
This area
> is marked FORBIDDEN ZONE. [The "eastern quadrant," The Forbidden
Zone, would
> be the entire east coast all the way UP TO New York. This area of
the US
> would have been heavily nuked.] Using a pointer, Cornelius orients
Taylor,
> indicating a red dot in the middle of the green belt.
>
>
CORNELIUS
> We are here ...
> (moving
pointer)
> You were captured about
here.
>
> Taylor studies the map, then pointing at the lake in the eastern
desert, he
> goes into a brief charade, dramatizing the astronauts' landing and
trek.
>
>
>
ZIRA
> (interpreting his
movements)
>
> You fell in the water here? ...
you came
>
> ashore ... you marched across the
desert ...
>
> the mountains ... many days and
nights ...
>
> and reached the jungle.
>
> Taylor nods, smiles gratefully.
>
>
CORNELIUS
>
(flatly)
> Out - of - the -
question!.
>
> Taylor slams his fist against the wall in frustration.
>
>
> <A HREF="http://scifiscripts.com/scripts/planetofapes67.txt">Click
here: http://scifiscripts.com/scripts/planetofapes67.txt</A>
>
> Here's the link to the script on the web, if you all want to read
it for
> yourselves.
>
> -- Rory

> Maybe he got married. - - - Jeff
>
> Now THAT's funny!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <veetus@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Check out eBay item 1771831229

>
>
> > WHAT?! That's Joe's pride and joy! He always used to say, "Do

> how
> > hard it is to find a sucker that hasn't been eaten? From

> was
> > proud of that more than anything in his collection. Maybe he got
> > married. - - - Jeff
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <whitty@...>
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 10:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Check out eBay item 1771831229

> >
> >
> > > I just sent an email to the seller to ask WHY he is selling

> > >
> > > His answer....he just bought Joe Farrell's intact one.
> > >
> > > Small world.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --- <veetus@...> wrote:
> > > > His collection is pretty awesome and he's got

> > > stuff too.
> > > > But he moved and I lost touch with him. Last I heard he was

> > > to be a
> > > > lawyer (all great POTA collectors become lawyers...Eric

> > > Farrell,
> > > > the founder of "Sacred Scrolls" magazine...). - - - Jeff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <whitty@...>
> > > > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 8:34 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Check out eBay item

> > > (Ends O
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Joe Farrell is the undisputed king of known POTA collectors.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hopr one day to view his collection.
> > > > >
> > > > > He said he would send me photos about 2 years ago, but he

> > > have
> > > > > forgotten......
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- <veetus@...> wrote:
> > > > > > Joe Farrell has one with the sucker still in it and

> > > > > pride and jo
> > > > > > y. And he's got a hell of a collection. - - - Jeff
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Haristas@...
> > > > > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 1:57 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Check out eBay item

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> > > > > > of the Apes Chocolate Lollipop 1974
> > > > > >
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> In a message dated 9/30/02 12:19:45 AM, whitty@...

>
> do you know his ebay name? maybe i've bid against him...it's

> it?...That guy has alot...uh..sorry...a lot of rare shit he's

> always selling or buying.....
>
> << Joe Farrell is the undisputed king of known POTA collectors.
>
> I hopr one day to view his collection.
>
> He said he would send me photos about 2 years ago, but he must have
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> In a message dated 9/30/02 12:19:45 AM, whitty@...

>
> do you know his ebay name? maybe i've bid against him...it's

> it?...That guy has alot...uh..sorry...a lot of rare shit he's

> always selling or buying.....
>
> << Joe Farrell is the undisputed king of known POTA collectors.
>
> I hopr one day to view his collection.
>
> He said he would send me photos about 2 years ago, but he must have
> forgotten......
>
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>

> how much did he pay for it?
>
> In a message dated 9/30/02 1:27:43 AM, veetus@... writes:
>
> << WHAT?! That's Joe's pride and joy! He always used to say, "Do

> hard it is to find a sucker that hasn't been eaten? From

> proud of that more than anything in his collection. Maybe he got
> married. - - - Jeff
> >>
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>

> it's in theSausville price Guide:
> Stain Glass Craft Kit from Winner Promotions 1974..listed at
> 50-100 bucks (page77) of course he has all that custom
> mattthew Sotis stuff in there too>!---
>
> In pota@y..., <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > What the hell? Looks like a forgery. I never heard of such a
> thing. Is it
> > for real? But $700? - - - Jeff
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <apefan23@a...>
> > To: <pota@y...>
> > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 6:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Chocolate
> Lollipop
> >
> >
> > > can you open this pic? i have to find a new way to post pics....
> > >
> > >
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> I bet most people would prefer quality in POTA postings instead of

>>

> In a message dated 9/30/02 7:01:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
>
> > His ebay ID is WAYCOOLSTUFF2000 or something similar.
> >
> > Smolen is the guy currently selling the lollipop card.
> >
> > I think Joe might be getting a bit frightened by the awfully low
> > prices being fetched on ebay.
> >
> >
>
> Oh yeah! I've talked to WAYCOOLSTUFF2000. He was kind of a dick.

> lost the auction for the door panel posters (which for over $1000

> glad I got out bid), he contacted me and wanted to know if I had

> address of the person who won them. When I told him I didn't he

> pissed. I didn't like him.
>
> -- Rory
>

>
> In a message dated 9/30/02 12:19:45 AM, whitty@...

>
> do you know his ebay name? maybe i've bid against him...it's

> it?...That guy has alot...uh..sorry...a lot of rare shit he's

> always selling or buying.....
>
> << Joe Farrell is the undisputed king of known POTA collectors.
>
> I hopr one day to view his collection.
>
> He said he would send me photos about 2 years ago, but he must have
> forgotten......
>
> Michael >>
>
>
>
>

>>

> What are yours and ken's ebay names? Waycoolstuff has asked for

> prices sometimes....he's got a boxed Zaius Halloween costume for 99

> think that's too high....
> In a message dated 9/30/02 7:01:36 PM, whitty@...

>
> << His ebay ID is WAYCOOLSTUFF2000 or something similar.
>
> Smolen is the guy currently selling the lollipop card.
>
> I think Joe might be getting a bit frightened by the awfully low
> prices being fetched on ebay.
>
> Either that or he has a better one (he often finds a better

> item then sells his own to finance buying the better one).
>
> There are only a few mor hard hitting collectors I know of on eBay -

> one is called "little italy" (who I think has changed his/her name -

> possibly to the high bidder at the moment).
>
> Then there is "GoApeBilly".
>
> Then there is yourself, Ken and me.
>
> The latter 2 are trying to kick the habbit I think.
>
> So currently, after these 6 people have any said item, only greedy
> sellers who are unaware that the aforementioned have an item will

> good money for them.
>
> Michael
>
> --- apefan23@... wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 9/30/02 12:19:45 AM, whitty@...
> writes:
> >
> > do you know his ebay name? maybe i've bid against him...it's
> not "smolen" is
> > it?...That guy has alot...uh..sorry...a lot of rare shit he's
> either
> > always selling or buying.....
> >
> > << Joe Farrell is the undisputed king of known POTA collectors.
> >
> > I hopr one day to view his collection.
> >
> > He said he would send me photos about 2 years ago, but he must

> > forgotten......
> >
> > Michael >>
> >
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> In a message dated 9/30/02 9:34:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
>
> > Stop talking about Jeff's friend like that Rory, you mean ass!
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
>
> Are you starting with me too tonight?!!! What is this gang up on

> I can dish it out and I can take it. Go ahead, make my day!
>
> -- Rory
>

> In a message dated 9/30/02 9:34:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> writes:
>
>
> > As i just posted i didn't buy the stained glass.....That does

> > lot...i buy a foreign poster for say 50 bucks and then i see a

> > there going for less....
> > the most I've spent for items were indeed rare......300 bucks for

> > Mego village....too much!!!! 190 bucks for a MOC Zaius press

> > bubbles......I've done well on MOC mego figures...Got an Ursus

> >
> > and Toyfare says it's up to $300!
> > I can't believe I've spent as much money as I have for all this

> > But
> > it makes me happy.......
> >
> >
>
> I was very happy when I got on eBay a Topps box from the original

> I paid $75 for it. Sausville told me he paid $95 for his.
> [Unable to display image]
> -- Rory
>

> YES! i've been gathering pics for awhile....there's a merchandise

> Hokne's website but he rarely updates it...do you have the smarts

> web page...us'ns in north carolin don't know such things...(JUST

> --Tim
>
> In a message dated 9/30/02 7:08:38 PM, whitty@...

>
> <<
>
> Hey apefan23 (sorry, what's your name again?), wanna join me in
> making a POTA collectible website?
>
> I just wanna see everything that was made before I die! There was

> time when I wanted to own everything, but I am compromising as I

> older.
>
> If enough of us get together and photograph our collections, it can
> be done.
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----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 12:56 PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Eric Greene Doll


> Is this it:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1772277344
>
> Matt
>
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Eric Greene Doll


> Here's a site that has a pic of Eric from the show as well as a pic of the
doll out of the box. It's a pretty goofy looking toy.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/6009/spacea.htm
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>