> I would really like to see a lot of them too but I would hate to see
> them in "sell-out" bins, and limiting the release is the best way to
> assure that.
>
> Michael
>
> --- Melkor <melkor@...> wrote:
> >
> > If they release alternate version DVDs I want them to make as many
> as
> > possible. The last thing I want is a shortage where I may have to
> > pay $$$ on ebay to get them.
> >
> > What would be perfect would be a DVD with the alternate version and
> regular
> > version of the movie in the same set. I would especially want
> ESCAPE with an
> > opening scene before the spaceship lands.

>
>
> Stop the Planet of the Apes....I want to get off....
>
> When did this stuff stop becoming fun?
>
> Someone email me when this is all over. I just want to be in a group where I
> can get the latest Apes news and I can discuss things like the death of Kim
> Hunter when it happens. All of this other "BS" bores the
> crap out of me....
>
> Matt

----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 9:03 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Trouble in Paradise

You missed one...I think he was adressing his dog (spot) when he said "Out, out damned spot".

Nope, that's McBeth.


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----- Original Message -----

From: veetus@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 12:55 AM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] A Call to Arms

  Hi Michael. Since you didn't pick a film, we'll assume POTA2001 is your favorite. - - - Jeff

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 1:34 AM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] A Call to Arms

Well..I'm here...but I think you all know that.

 

Michael Whitty from Canberra, AUSTRALIA.

----- Original Message -----

From: veetus@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 3:34 PM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] A Call to Arms

  This probably isn't the best time to unite "Ape" fans, what with the infighting going on in this group and last night's announcement that any new POTA DVDs are a long way off (have you hugged your POTA DVD box set today? You two are going to be together for a while). But in about 3 weeks the 40th anniversary year begins and I want us to renew our faith. We can celebrate. Who needs Fox? Pierre Boulle didn't need them 40 years ago when he put pen to paper. No need to complain; Fox has been very generous with their DVDs, basically giving us the TV show collection out of the goodness of their hearts, because they know no other way. But we're on our own this anniversary.

  To begin with, this weekend I want to take stock and see where this group is at in terms of numbers. There's been some controversy and no one can be blamed for calling it quits after what's been going down here. So the Grand Experiment is this: I'm asking EVERYONE, please, if you still are in this group (and maybe even enjoy it), now is the time to be heard. I'd like everyone to e-mail the title of their favorite "Apes" films; not necessarily the best one, but their personal favorite. You don't even have to give your name, rank and serial #. Just send the movie title. We'll announce a winner. If you receive this group and you never post, just do this one thing.

  Remember "Horton Hears A Who"? Horton admonished the Whos to stand up and be counted. Now's the time to show each other and those who think honest communication isn't commercial enough that we're in this group because we want to share our interest and love of POTA in our own way. As Horton said, ""Bang on a pot, bang on a drum...call on a zilliphone, bang on your bum" (or something like that) and say, "I'm here!", "I'm heRE!", "I'M HERE!". One post, one movie from EVERYONE, even those we never hear from. That's my challenge. Otherwise, you don't exist, man! It must be weird being you.  And then what will you say when you're asked, "What did you do during the POTA group, Daddy?" Future generations are looking to you.

  One post, one movie, from everyone.

  Oh, and this weekend will be the conclusion of the Starcon panel, with more stuff to come. Thanks for your attention.

                                                      - - -  Jeff

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:19 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] "Patrick" in a rubber suit again! ...

OK - yeah, and you can add kangaroos - they are large varmin and are
treated as such.

But they're cute!  Not as cute as Kowalla Bears, but still, they're indiginous.  And the rabbits and cats weren't.
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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:07 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] A Call to Arms

I'm Rory (aka the troublemaker) and my favorite is the BEST, you know its name, PLANET OF THE APES!

----- Original Message -----
From: "mtotsky" <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:19 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: [PotaDG] Re: "Ground Rules"? (OT in that
it's not Ape r


> --- In pota@y..., "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
>
> <<This is what James predicted.
>
> I'm surprised, and still waiting for others' opinions.>>
>
> I don't get it...
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melkor" <melkor@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] RE: FAVORITE movie and other stuff (rated
M for language)


>
> I may be the only one but Battle is my favorite Apes movie.
>
> I think of the POTA movie series as a saga, with BATTLE the conclusion
> of the story.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: <Apefan23@...>
To: <MTotsky@...>; <melkor@...>;
<Michael.Whitty@...>; <abmac@...>;
<alan@...>; <apeman@...>;
<dballard@...>; <goosegansler@...>; <JamesA1102@...>;
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Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "Ground Rules"? (OT in that it's not Ape related


>
>
> > ----------
> > From: Apefan23@...[SMTP:APEFAN23@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 6:17:32 AM
> > To: MTotsky@...; melkor@...;
Michael.Whitty@...; abmac@...;
alan@...; apeman@...;
dballard@...; goosegansler@...; JamesA1102@...;
LordTZer0@...; martike69@...
> > Cc: MLCCOUGAR@...; mslpel5@...; MTotsky@...;
nfoster@...; sand_hill_school@...; thypentacle@...;
valwp@...; Haristas@...; pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "Ground Rules"? (OT in that it's not Ape
related
> > Auto forwarded by a Rule
> >
> I agree with Matt.....Just let me know if and when all of this crap is
over in one or both groups.....
>
> Tim
>
> In a message dated Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:04:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,
MTotsky writes:
>
> >
> >
> > Stop the Planet of the Apes....I want to get off....
> >
> > When did this stuff stop becoming fun?
> >
> > Someone email me when this is all over. I just want to be in a group
where I
> > can get the latest Apes news and I can discuss things like the death of
Kim
> > Hunter when it happens. All of this other "BS" bores the
> > crap out of me....
> >
> > Matt
>
>

--- In pota@y..., "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

<<Matt and Tim have been removed from the list now.>>

And what did I do to get removed?

Matt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melkor" <melkor@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] As the Planet of the Apes Turns...
"Patrick" again! ...


> >
> > The scene in "Beneath" in the steam room ruins an otherwise
outstanding f=
> > ilm. - - - Jeff
> >
>
> Why?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melkor" <melkor@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 4:26 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] comic idea


>
> I wonder why no one (Marvel?) ever did comic stories from the TV series?
I
> would love to see original stories from the TV series. I would buy them
either
> as comics or paperbacks. We don't have any original TV stories except the
> Power Records stories, and those appear to be either unused or rejected
> scripts.
>
> I wonder if it would do any good asking Fox to license books based on
> the TV series. They probably don't think anyone would be interested
> but almost every sci-fi series has fans and fictional stories published
> in books. Since POTA nearly created the concept of a blockbuster
> sci-fi franchise how come it has so few fictional stories published?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

>
> Okay, whoever the FUCK is reading this CANCEL me out of the other group. I
> wouldn't be caught DEAD there with that ASSHOLE JAMES! And he's the fucker
> that was sending the bogus e-mails, you can bet your ass on that. Whitty how
>

--- In pota@y..., <veetus@e...> wrote:
> I think they can only do people who joined that new group. As they said
in "The Exorcist": "Take me! Come into me!" - - - Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Melkor
> To: pota@y...
> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 8:30 PM
> Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Warning
>
> Challenge accepted!
>
> ---- In pota@y..., Melkor <melkor@e...> wrote:
> >
> > Whoever's been forging these emails, can you do one from me? Consider
> > it a challenge. I'll check back tomorrow to see. I haven't changed
any
> > passwords.
> >

>
> --- In pota@y..., Melkor <melkor@e...> wrote:
> >
> > I wonder why no one (Marvel?) ever did comic stories from the
> TV series?
>
> Back in the 70's There were three British annuals each of which
> contained TV based comic strips.
>
> Dave
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>
>

>
> I think the ape suits are hideous!
>
> Michael
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Melkor" <melkor@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 6:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] As the Planet of the Apes Turns...
> "Patrick" again! ...
>
>
> > >
> > > The scene in "Beneath" in the steam room ruins an otherwise
> outstanding f=
> > > ilm. - - - Jeff
> > >
> >
> > Why?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>
>

> Conquest.
>
> I like it the most, very thought provoking.
>
> -Joe Milik

>
> Never new about those. I wish someone would scan them.

----- Original Message -----

From: Melkor

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 9:26 AM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] comic idea

I wonder why no one (Marvel?) ever did comic stories from the TV series?  I
would love to see original stories from the TV series.  I would buy them either
as comics or paperbacks.  We don't have any original TV stories except the
Power Records stories, and those appear to be either unused or rejected
scripts.

I wonder if it would do any good asking Fox to license books based on
the TV series.  They probably don't think anyone would be interested
but almost every sci-fi series has fans and fictional stories published
in books.  Since POTA nearly created the concept of a blockbuster
sci-fi franchise how come it has so few fictional stories published?



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----- Original Message -----

From: CheeseGOTAS@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 3:26 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] A Call to Arms

Conquest.

I like it the most, very thought provoking.

-Joe Milik

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----- Original Message -----

From: Kassidy Rae <valwp@...>

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 6:05 PM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: A Call to Arms

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, CheeseGOTAS@a... wrote:
> Conquest.
>
> I like it the most, very thought provoking.
>
> -Joe Milik

Hey, you know, I love that one too.  I remember writing a poem based
on the concept of the oppressed rising up and becoming the oppressors
thanks to that movie.  It was published in my school newspaper :)
Kassidy
PS what is not to love about that line, "fight like apes!"


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----- Original Message -----

From: Kassidy Rae <valwp@...>

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 6:05 PM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: A Call to Arms

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, CheeseGOTAS@a... wrote:
> Conquest.
>
> I like it the most, very thought provoking.
>
> -Joe Milik

Hey, you know, I love that one too.  I remember writing a poem based
on the concept of the oppressed rising up and becoming the oppressors
thanks to that movie.  It was published in my school newspaper :)
Kassidy
PS what is not to love about that line, "fight like apes!"


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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
I'd like everyone to e-mail the title of their favorite "Apes" films;
not necessarily the best one, but their personal favorite.

Beneath.
Definetly not the best but still my favorite for some odd reason
that I can't quite figure out.

Neil, an Englishman stuck in Queensland, Australia

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> This probably isn't the best time to unite "Ape" fans, what with
the infighting going on in this group and last night's announcement
that any new POTA DVDs are a long way off (have you hugged your POTA
DVD box set today? You two are going to be together for a while). But
in about 3 weeks the 40th anniversary year begins and I want us to
renew our faith. We can celebrate. Who needs Fox? Pierre Boulle
didn't need them 40 years ago when he put pen to paper. No need to
complain; Fox has been very generous with their DVDs, basically
giving us the TV show collection out of the goodness of their hearts,
because they know no other way. But we're on our own this
anniversary.
> To begin with, this weekend I want to take stock and see where
this group is at in terms of numbers. There's been some controversy
and no one can be blamed for calling it quits after what's been going
down here. So the Grand Experiment is this: I'm asking EVERYONE,
please, if you still are in this group (and maybe even enjoy it), now
is the time to be heard. I'd like everyone to e-mail the title of
their favorite "Apes" films; not necessarily the best one, but their
personal favorite. You don't even have to give your name, rank and
serial #. Just send the movie title. We'll announce a winner. If you
receive this group and you never post, just do this one thing.
> Remember "Horton Hears A Who"? Horton admonished the Whos to
stand up and be counted. Now's the time to show each other and those
who think honest communication isn't commercial enough that we're in
this group because we want to share our interest and love of POTA in
our own way. As Horton said, ""Bang on a pot, bang on a drum...call
on a zilliphone, bang on your bum" (or something like that) and
say, "I'm here!", "I'm heRE!", "I'M HERE!". One post, one movie from
EVERYONE, even those we never hear from. That's my challenge.
Otherwise, you don't exist, man! It must be weird being you. And
then what will you say when you're asked, "What did you do during the
POTA group, Daddy?" Future generations are looking to you.
> One post, one movie, from everyone.
> Oh, and this weekend will be the conclusion of the Starcon panel,
with more stuff to come. Thanks for your attention.
> - - - Jeff

> You got your movies mixed up, Miss Rae. "Fight like apes" was

>

>
> The TV series is just thought of as a failure and they assume no one wou=
> ld be interested. I remember a reader of the early '90's comic books asked =
> them to do a TV show story and the editor just groaned. If Fox isn't even w=
> illing to do more stories about the original movies, they probably don't gi=
> ve the TV show a second thought. - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----

From: Kassidy Rae <valwp@...>

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:49 AM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: A Rae of Hope

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
>   You got your movies mixed up, Miss Rae. "Fight like apes" was
in "Battle".  I sentence you to watch "Conquest" and "Battle" again.
I won't throw the book at you this time. - - - Jeff
>

++++I didn't say they were from the same movies, that was a
random "P.S" thought.  I kind of like to jump topics.  You believe
me, don't you?

Patty me boy, it occured to me with all my blue language of the other
day that you might think I was irritated at you, so to set the record
straight, I have been irritated and impatient at the situation IN
GENERAL and waiting for things to get back to apes, as it should be.
I was kind of sounding off, is all. 

Normally I am sweetness and light.  You believe me, don't you?
Kassidy




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----- Original Message -----

From: Neil <nfoster@...>

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 9:52 PM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: A Call to Arms

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
I'd like everyone to e-mail the title of their favorite "Apes" films;
not necessarily the best one, but their personal favorite.

Beneath.
Definetly not the best but still my favorite for some odd reason
that I can't quite figure out.

Neil,  an Englishman stuck in Queensland, Australia

----- Original Message -----

From: Melkor

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 8:23 AM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] comic idea

>
>    The TV series is just thought of as a failure and they assume no one wou=
> ld be interested. I remember a reader of the early '90's comic books asked =
> them to do a TV show story and the editor just groaned. If Fox isn't even w=
> illing to do more stories about the original movies, they probably don't gi=
> ve the TV show a second thought. - - - Jeff

I wonder if Fox considers the TV DVDs a success.


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> Let us thank our lucky stars that such "list-making" types aren't in
> charge of this site. The Triumvirate had a list... McCarthy had
> a "Blacklist"... Nixon had his "Enemy's List"... Breck had
> his "Achilles List"...

>
> Alright Kass, I will let it slide this time. But you're on probation. - -=
> - Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Kassidy Rae <valwp@...>=20
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com=20
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:49 AM
> Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: A Rae of Hope
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > You got your movies mixed up, Miss Rae. "Fight like apes" was=20
> in "Battle". I sentence you to watch "Conquest" and "Battle" again.=20
> I won't throw the book at you this time. - - - Jeff
> >=20
>
> ++++I didn't say they were from the same movies, that was a=20
> random "P.S" thought. I kind of like to jump topics. You believe=20
> me, don't you?
>
> Patty me boy, it occured to me with all my blue language of the other=20
> day that you might think I was irritated at you, so to set the record=20
> straight, I have been irritated and impatient at the situation IN=20
> GENERAL and waiting for things to get back to apes, as it should be.=20
> I was kind of sounding off, is all.=20=20
>
> Normally I am sweetness and light. You believe me, don't you?
> Kassidy

> Jeff, I think even a man as kind as you will agree that Stuart, who

> finds 2 of Patrick's posts interesting and none of the others, is

> representative of the "norm".

> Have you noticed nobody agrees with you and nobody is responding?

> Beneath....
>
> I ain't saying it's the best, only that it's my favourite.

>
> I wonder why no one (Marvel?) ever did comic stories from the TV

----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:23 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] comic idea

MTM Show has action figures?

But "Mary Tyler Moore Show" flopped (kind of a surprise).

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On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 10:34 PM, <veetus@...> wrote:

> I'd like everyone to e-mail the title of their favorite "Apes" films; not
> necessarily the best one, but their personal favorite. You don't even have
> to give your name, rank and serial #. Just send the movie title.

----- Original Message -----

From: Anthony B. McElveen

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 4:48 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] A Call to Arms

Planet of the Apes (1968)

Anthony

On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 10:34  PM, <veetus@...> wrote:

> I'd like everyone to e-mail the title of their favorite "Apes" films; not
> necessarily the best one, but their personal favorite. You don't even have
> to give your name, rank and serial #. Just send the movie title.


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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
As we wait for a "Simpsons" musical set we can hope for something
from that. - - - Jeff

> I am waiting for some Simpsons figures base on the Apes episode!!
Wouldn't those rock?!! And how comne there's no Apes bobblehead yet?
There's one of every other character ever created...!

Tim
> >
>

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To: <MTotsky@...>; <melkor@...>;
<Michael.Whitty@...>; <abmac@...>;
<alan@...>; <apeman@...>;
<dballard@...>; <goosegansler@...>;
<JamesA1102@...>;
<LordTZer0@...>; <martike69@...>
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Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "Ground Rules"? (OT in that it's not Ape
related


>
>
> > ----------
> > From: Apefan23@...[SMTP:APEFAN23@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 6:17:32 AM
> > To: MTotsky@...; melkor@...;
Michael.Whitty@...; abmac@...;
alan@...; apeman@...;
dballard@...; goosegansler@...; JamesA1102@...;
LordTZer0@...; martike69@...
> > Cc: MLCCOUGAR@...; mslpel5@...; MTotsky@...;
nfoster@...; sand_hill_school@...;
thypentacle@...;
valwp@...; Haristas@...; pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "Ground Rules"? (OT in that it's not Ape
related
> > Auto forwarded by a Rule
> >
> I agree with Matt.....Just let me know if and when all of this crap is
over in one or both groups.....
>
> Tim
>
> In a message dated Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:04:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,
MTotsky writes:
>
> >
> >
> > Stop the Planet of the Apes....I want to get off....
> >
> > When did this stuff stop becoming fun?
> >
> > Someone email me when this is all over. I just want to be in a group
where I
> > can get the latest Apes news and I can discuss things like the death
of
Kim
> > Hunter when it happens. All of this other "BS" bores the
> > crap out of me....
> >
> > Matt
>
>

But if I'm not mistaken, wasn't the Chad Valley projector set
also based on the TV series? I think this was some kind of comic strip
adventure, yes? (I am saying this from memory, I don't actually own
it)

Alan

+++yep.  There's a picture of the Chad Valley on my site.

> Have you noticed nobody agrees with you and nobody is responding?

>
> I wonder why no one (Marvel?) ever did comic stories from the TV

> Jeff, I think even a man as kind as you will agree that Stuart, who

> finds 2 of Patrick's posts interesting and none of the others, is

> representative of the "norm".

--- In pota@y..., "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

<<Matt and Tim have been removed from the list now.>>

And what did I do to get removed?

Matt

>
> I think the ape suits are hideous!
>
> Michael
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Melkor" <melkor@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 6:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] As the Planet of the Apes Turns...
> "Patrick" again! ...
>
>
> > >
> > > The scene in "Beneath" in the steam room ruins an otherwise
> outstanding f=
> > > ilm. - - - Jeff
> > >
> >
> > Why?
> >
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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:19 AM

Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] As the Planet of the Apes Turns... "Patrick" again! ...

That's what I mean.

Another one for Patrick to explain!

Michael

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Sent: Saturday, 7 December 2002 11:36 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
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I kind of liked them.  But the apes were fatter naked than wearing
their suits just like CONQUEST.

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> Michael
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From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:19 AM

Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] As the Planet of the Apes Turns... "Patrick" again! ...

That's what I mean.

Another one for Patrick to explain!

Michael

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Sent: Saturday, 7 December 2002 11:36 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] As the Planet of the Apes Turns...
"Patrick" again! ...


I kind of liked them.  But the apes were fatter naked than wearing
their suits just like CONQUEST.

>
>  I think the ape suits are hideous!
>
> Michael
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> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
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From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:19 AM

Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] comic idea

There’s a reason we are few…..it is because the franchise has never had a soul, but has rather been treated as a money spinner.

 

Michael

 

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Sent: Sunday, 8 December 2002 10:15 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] comic idea

 

In a message dated 12/7/02 12:19:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

  Don't know. Nor do I know how the POTA2001 action figures sold. But judging from Fox's attitude toward "Apes" despite POTA2001 being "one of our most profitable films in the last 5 years" ( - - Fox head Hutch Parker) probably not too well. At the infamous forum the other night Peter Stoddard said "The Simpsons" is selling gangbusters, also "X-Files" and "Buffy". But "Mary Tyler Moore Show" flopped (kind of a surprise). Didn't mention "Apes" TV. I think the recent "Apes" stuff sold mediocre but not terrible. And it IS a bad economy. - - - Jeff

We APES fans are too few.  How can we take any initiative when they're in control?

-- Rory
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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 9:23 PM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Chad Valley Projector

But if I'm not mistaken, wasn't the Chad Valley projector set
also based on the TV series? I think this was some kind of comic strip
adventure, yes? (I am saying this from memory, I don't actually own
it)

Alan

+++yep.  There's a picture of the Chad Valley on my site.

Kassidy

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> In a message dated 12/8/02 7:44:34 AM Eastern Standard

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>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:

I'll never understand how you can like BENEATH the best.
There's something really depressing about the mood of that
movie.

Speaking personally, a large part of it is simply that not only was
Beneath the first Ape movie I ever saw but perhaps the first 'Adult'
movie too. (At least as far as seeing a movie at the cinema goes
-Seeing Brent gunned down was my personal 'Bambi")

I wonder how many other favourites are influenced by first
exposure?

Dave
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>

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Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 5:00 AM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: A Call to Arms

In a message dated 12/8/02 7:02:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, canislupusravus@... writes:

"Beneath the POTA" is my favourite, by a small difference, I really love all 5 movies.

Gui

Gui?  Gui?  Who he?   Joe Russo, who co-wrote PLANET OF THE APES REVISITED, says his favorite is BENEATH, but I'll never understand how you can like BENEATH the best.  There's something really depressing about the mood of that movie.

-- Rory

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 4:01 AM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: A Call to Arms

"Beneath the POTA" is my favourite, by a small difference, I really love all 5 movies.

Gui


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> Now, what is your favorite "Ape" movie?

> Gui? Gui? Who he? Joe Russo, who co-wrote PLANET OF THE APES

> says his favorite is BENEATH, but I'll never understand how you can

> BENEATH the best. There's something really depressing about the

> movie.

>
> I wonder how many other favourites are influenced by first
> exposure?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@A... wrote:
There's something really depressing about the mood of that movie.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
Something? I'd say everything -- background masks aside. The war
mongering general, the mind controlling aliens. Not to mention the
fake Cornelius and the lack of Zira's screen time. Oh, and everybody
dies! Well not them, but nobody knew that until Escape came out,
even them! Not many characters die twice, though James Bond pulled
it off. No wait, that was live twice. You can see how confusing it
is.

Ok, you two ARE entitled to your opinions, but I actually LIKE
BENEATH, quite a bit actually... I'd maybe rank it as my second
choice (tied with CONQUEST). I can see where it is the top choice of
a few of the "voters" in here... I'd say the # 1 reason I like it is
because it's the only sequel actually set "ON" the Planet of the
Apes... That's a big plus right there...

That "war mongering General" What's not to like about him? (OK, in
reality he probably IS the facist Rory has accused him of being, and
all of that...)He's one of my favorite APES characters though... As
for the "fake" Cornelius, yes I wish Roddy had taken a few days off
from his movie being made in England and had come back to play
Cornelius, but they did what they had to do,which was get a
replacement. One of my biggest problems with the casting choice was
that he was TOO TALL! For the few that have said that it wasn't until
years later that they didn't know it wasn't Roddy In BENEATH, that
was a big give away right there I always thought... But face it, for
the short amount of time he was on screen, Watson did a "passable"
job, though not great...

The Mutants, here I kinda agree depending on my mood. I always
thought they "were" a little too telepathic, and the illusion stuff
did get outta hand at times... BUT without the illusion creating
abilities, there would not be that cool scene with the crucified
Gorillas, and the bleeding Lawgiver, so that makes up for it... But
as I said, there are times I just wish they hadn't been "so"
telepathic...

I agree that the background masks will always be a problem, and it
bugs the hell outta me that one of the shots used so much is that
shot of the pullover masks Gorillas in the arena (The shot used on
the Famous Monsters of Filmland cover, that bootleg t-shirt, and the
recent postcard set to name a few...)I hate the fact that some of
those pullovers are "focused" on so much in the Forbidden Zone
hallucination scene...They should have just grouped all the made up
Soldiers together for that shot... Same with the shot of them leaving
Ape City... But we can't undo that and we're stuck looking at them...
Ok, that said, you know what bugs me about BENEATH's actual makeups:
the way that Zira doesn't look like Zira from PLANET... I wish she
woulda wore that chin piece for one thing, and I wish they woulda
looked at PLANET as a makeup reference to get her to look the same...
(By the way, does anyone know if Kim had the same makeup artist in
BENEATH as she had in PLANET?)

The Underground City... I wish they hadn't had it look so "melted"...
I like the way the Subway station looked for being aged, and the
exterior of the Church looked ok, but the interior... What's up with
all the foam? That's what I don't like about it... I mean if they
were trying to convey that this city was built within the ruins of
the old, it didn't cut it for me. The way the novel describes it, it
says something like that Brent could see "new" built onto the old or
something like that. I didn't get that impression from all that
styrene or whatever it was they used... I can handle the fact that
they lived "under" the atomic ashes/rubble, but I guess I woulda just
did it differently. I have to think of a better way to describe what
I woulda wanted before I post it, so it makes sense...

One more thing... Who was it that said the Steam Bath scene ruined
BENEATH? Were you serious when you said that? I don't think that
scene ruins anything... Its far better than (and makes a lot more
sense than) Taylor using the rifle butt to chop into, and then vanish
into "nothing"...

Anyway, though I agreed with some of what you said, and some I didn't
agree with, I like BENEATH...

> Gui? Gui? Who he? Joe Russo, who co-wrote PLANET OF THE APES

> says his favorite is BENEATH, but I'll never understand how you can

> BENEATH the best. There's something really depressing about the

> movie.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@A... wrote:
There's something really depressing about the mood of that movie.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
Something? I'd say everything -- background masks aside. The war
mongering general, the mind controlling aliens. Not to mention the
fake Cornelius and the lack of Zira's screen time. Oh, and everybody
dies! Well not them, but nobody knew that until Escape came out,
even them! Not many characters die twice, though James Bond pulled
it off. No wait, that was live twice. You can see how confusing it
is.

Ok, you two ARE entitled to your opinions, but I actually LIKE
BENEATH, quite a bit actually... I'd maybe rank it as my second
choice (tied with CONQUEST). I can see where it is the top choice of
a few of the "voters" in here... I'd say the # 1 reason I like it is
because it's the only sequel actually set "ON" the Planet of the
Apes... That's a big plus right there...

That "war mongering General" What's not to like about him? (OK, in
reality he probably IS the facist Rory has accused him of being, and
all of that...)He's one of my favorite APES characters though... As
for the "fake" Cornelius, yes I wish Roddy had taken a few days off
from his movie being made in England and had come back to play
Cornelius, but they did what they had to do,which was get a
replacement. One of my biggest problems with the casting choice was
that he was TOO TALL! For the few that have said that it wasn't until
years later that they didn't know it wasn't Roddy In BENEATH, that
was a big give away right there I always thought... But face it, for
the short amount of time he was on screen, Watson did a "passable"
job, though not great...

The Mutants, here I kinda agree depending on my mood. I always
thought they "were" a little too telepathic, and the illusion stuff
did get outta hand at times... BUT without the illusion creating
abilities, there would not be that cool scene with the crucified
Gorillas, and the bleeding Lawgiver, so that makes up for it... But
as I said, there are times I just wish they hadn't been "so"
telepathic...

I agree that the background masks will always be a problem, and it
bugs the hell outta me that one of the shots used so much is that
shot of the pullover masks Gorillas in the arena (The shot used on
the Famous Monsters of Filmland cover, that bootleg t-shirt, and the
recent postcard set to name a few...)I hate the fact that some of
those pullovers are "focused" on so much in the Forbidden Zone
hallucination scene...They should have just grouped all the made up
Soldiers together for that shot... Same with the shot of them leaving
Ape City... But we can't undo that and we're stuck looking at them...
Ok, that said, you know what bugs me about BENEATH's actual makeups:
the way that Zira doesn't look like Zira from PLANET... I wish she
woulda wore that chin piece for one thing, and I wish they woulda
looked at PLANET as a makeup reference to get her to look the same...
(By the way, does anyone know if Kim had the same makeup artist in
BENEATH as she had in PLANET?)

The Underground City... I wish they hadn't had it look so "melted"...
I like the way the Subway station looked for being aged, and the
exterior of the Church looked ok, but the interior... What's up with
all the foam? That's what I don't like about it... I mean if they
were trying to convey that this city was built within the ruins of
the old, it didn't cut it for me. The way the novel describes it, it
says something like that Brent could see "new" built onto the old or
something like that. I didn't get that impression from all that
styrene or whatever it was they used... I can handle the fact that
they lived "under" the atomic ashes/rubble, but I guess I woulda just
did it differently. I have to think of a better way to describe what
I woulda wanted before I post it, so it makes sense...

One more thing... Who was it that said the Steam Bath scene ruined
BENEATH? Were you serious when you said that? I don't think that
scene ruins anything... Its far better than (and makes a lot more
sense than) Taylor using the rifle butt to chop into, and then vanish
into "nothing"...

Anyway, though I agreed with some of what you said, and some I didn't
agree with, I like BENEATH...

>
> Never new about those. I wish someone would scan them.

>

----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar <mlccougar@...>

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:16 PM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] BENEATH is not that bad... (LONG POST)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@A... wrote:
There's something really depressing about the mood of that movie.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
Something?  I'd say everything -- background masks aside.  The war
mongering general, the mind controlling aliens.  Not to mention the
fake Cornelius and the lack of Zira's screen time.  Oh, and everybody
dies!  Well not them, but nobody knew that until Escape came out,
even them!  Not many characters die twice, though James Bond pulled
it off.  No wait, that was live twice.  You can see how confusing it
is.
 
Ok, you two ARE entitled to your opinions, but I actually LIKE
BENEATH, quite a bit actually... I'd maybe rank it as my second
choice (tied with CONQUEST). I can see where it is the top choice of
a few of the "voters" in here... I'd say the # 1 reason I like it is
because it's the only sequel actually set "ON" the Planet of the
Apes... That's a big plus right there...

That "war mongering General" What's not to like about him? (OK, in
reality he probably IS the facist Rory has accused him of being, and
all of that...)He's one of my favorite APES characters though... As
for the "fake" Cornelius, yes I wish Roddy had taken a few days off
from his movie being made in England and had come back to play
Cornelius, but they did what they had to do,which was get a
replacement. One of my biggest problems with the casting choice was
that he was TOO TALL! For the few that have said that it wasn't until
years later that they didn't know it wasn't Roddy In BENEATH, that
was a big give away right there I always thought... But face it, for
the short amount of time he was on screen, Watson did a "passable"
job, though not great...

The Mutants, here I kinda agree depending on my mood. I always
thought they "were" a little too telepathic, and the illusion stuff
did get outta hand at times... BUT without the illusion creating
abilities, there would not be that cool scene with the crucified
Gorillas, and the bleeding Lawgiver, so that makes up for it... But
as I said, there are times I just wish they hadn't been "so"
telepathic...

I agree that the background masks will always be a problem, and it
bugs the hell outta me that one of the shots used so much is that
shot of the pullover masks Gorillas in the arena (The shot used on
the Famous Monsters of Filmland cover, that bootleg t-shirt, and the
recent postcard set to name a few...)I hate the fact that some of
those pullovers are "focused" on so much in the Forbidden Zone
hallucination scene...They should have just grouped all the made up
Soldiers together for that shot... Same with the shot of them leaving
Ape City... But we can't undo that and we're stuck looking at them...
Ok, that said, you know what bugs me about BENEATH's actual makeups:
the way that Zira doesn't look like Zira from PLANET... I wish she
woulda wore that chin piece for one thing, and I wish they woulda
looked at PLANET as a makeup reference to get her to look the same...
(By the way, does anyone know if Kim had the same makeup artist in
BENEATH as she had in PLANET?)

The Underground City... I wish they hadn't had it look so "melted"...
I like the way the Subway station looked for being aged, and the
exterior of the Church looked ok, but the interior... What's up with
all the foam? That's what I don't like about it... I mean if they
were trying to convey that this city was built within the ruins of
the old, it didn't cut it for me. The way the novel describes it, it
says something like that Brent could see "new" built onto the old or
something like that. I didn't get that impression from all that
styrene or whatever it was they used... I can handle the fact that
they lived "under" the atomic ashes/rubble, but I guess I woulda just
did it differently. I have to think of a better way to describe what
I woulda wanted before I post it, so it makes sense...

One more thing... Who was it that said the Steam Bath scene ruined
BENEATH? Were you serious when you said that? I don't think that
scene ruins anything... Its far better than (and makes a lot more
sense than) Taylor using the rifle butt to chop into, and then vanish
into "nothing"...

Anyway, though I agreed with some of what you said, and some I didn't
agree with, I like BENEATH...

----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar <mlccougar@...>

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:16 PM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] BENEATH is not that bad... (LONG POST)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@A... wrote:
There's something really depressing about the mood of that movie.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
Something?  I'd say everything -- background masks aside.  The war
mongering general, the mind controlling aliens.  Not to mention the
fake Cornelius and the lack of Zira's screen time.  Oh, and everybody
dies!  Well not them, but nobody knew that until Escape came out,
even them!  Not many characters die twice, though James Bond pulled
it off.  No wait, that was live twice.  You can see how confusing it
is.
 
Ok, you two ARE entitled to your opinions, but I actually LIKE
BENEATH, quite a bit actually... I'd maybe rank it as my second
choice (tied with CONQUEST). I can see where it is the top choice of
a few of the "voters" in here... I'd say the # 1 reason I like it is
because it's the only sequel actually set "ON" the Planet of the
Apes... That's a big plus right there...

That "war mongering General" What's not to like about him? (OK, in
reality he probably IS the facist Rory has accused him of being, and
all of that...)He's one of my favorite APES characters though... As
for the "fake" Cornelius, yes I wish Roddy had taken a few days off
from his movie being made in England and had come back to play
Cornelius, but they did what they had to do,which was get a
replacement. One of my biggest problems with the casting choice was
that he was TOO TALL! For the few that have said that it wasn't until
years later that they didn't know it wasn't Roddy In BENEATH, that
was a big give away right there I always thought... But face it, for
the short amount of time he was on screen, Watson did a "passable"
job, though not great...

The Mutants, here I kinda agree depending on my mood. I always
thought they "were" a little too telepathic, and the illusion stuff
did get outta hand at times... BUT without the illusion creating
abilities, there would not be that cool scene with the crucified
Gorillas, and the bleeding Lawgiver, so that makes up for it... But
as I said, there are times I just wish they hadn't been "so"
telepathic...

I agree that the background masks will always be a problem, and it
bugs the hell outta me that one of the shots used so much is that
shot of the pullover masks Gorillas in the arena (The shot used on
the Famous Monsters of Filmland cover, that bootleg t-shirt, and the
recent postcard set to name a few...)I hate the fact that some of
those pullovers are "focused" on so much in the Forbidden Zone
hallucination scene...They should have just grouped all the made up
Soldiers together for that shot... Same with the shot of them leaving
Ape City... But we can't undo that and we're stuck looking at them...
Ok, that said, you know what bugs me about BENEATH's actual makeups:
the way that Zira doesn't look like Zira from PLANET... I wish she
woulda wore that chin piece for one thing, and I wish they woulda
looked at PLANET as a makeup reference to get her to look the same...
(By the way, does anyone know if Kim had the same makeup artist in
BENEATH as she had in PLANET?)

The Underground City... I wish they hadn't had it look so "melted"...
I like the way the Subway station looked for being aged, and the
exterior of the Church looked ok, but the interior... What's up with
all the foam? That's what I don't like about it... I mean if they
were trying to convey that this city was built within the ruins of
the old, it didn't cut it for me. The way the novel describes it, it
says something like that Brent could see "new" built onto the old or
something like that. I didn't get that impression from all that
styrene or whatever it was they used... I can handle the fact that
they lived "under" the atomic ashes/rubble, but I guess I woulda just
did it differently. I have to think of a better way to describe what
I woulda wanted before I post it, so it makes sense...

One more thing... Who was it that said the Steam Bath scene ruined
BENEATH? Were you serious when you said that? I don't think that
scene ruins anything... Its far better than (and makes a lot more
sense than) Taylor using the rifle butt to chop into, and then vanish
into "nothing"...

Anyway, though I agreed with some of what you said, and some I didn't
agree with, I like BENEATH...

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:28 PM

Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Re: A Call to Arms

Power corrupts

 

-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
Sent: Monday, 9 December 2002 5:23 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: A Call to Arms

 

  Alright, I appreciate those who have voted for their favorite "Ape" movies, but we're nowhere near the 100 mark. I think some of you are holding out on us. I'm going to have to get tough.

  Ten-hut! Now, some of you think you can join this group and just get by, right? Not in this man's ape army! You're soul belongs to God but this weekend your ass belongs to ME! Do you find this funny, Private? ! This isn't a Jim Carrey group, it's a POTA group, PRIVATE! Do I make myself clear? DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR?!! When I ask you a question, you say, "Yes, Sergeant, sir!" If I ask you to jump off a bridge, you say, "How high, Sergeant, sir?" If I ask you your favorite "Ape" movie, you say, "'Beneath', Sergeant, sir!" or "'Conquest', Sergeant, sir!' Do I make myself CLEAR? Now, what is your favorite "Ape"movie, Private?!

 

                                                        - - - Jeff

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Guilherme Abreu <canislupusravus@...>

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 4:01 AM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: A Call to Arms

 

"Beneath the POTA" is my favourite, by a small difference, I really love all 5 movies.

Gui


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From: mlccougar <mlccougar@...>

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 11:29 AM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: A Call to Arms

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, veetus@...... wrote:
> Now, what is your favorite "Ape" movie?

PLANET OF THE APES! (1968)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
I was the one who complained about the steam bath scene ( I was
also kidding when I said something like "it ruined an otherwise
perfect film"). I have the same reaction to the steam bath I do to
the "primitive" apes in "Escape" and "Conquest"; it brings it down to
an unacceptible level. Those ape suits make me cringe and I think are
a large reason for the perception of some people that the films
are "B" movies. The full body suits look ridiculous. They should have
done that scene in another setting and saved the steam bath for Burke
and Virdon (for Kassidy's sake). - - Jeff

Well, they are "bad" looking but not quite "that" bad looking, not to
me anyway... Now Caesar and those "Ex-Borneo" orangutans, not to
mention those HORRIBLE primitives in ESCAPE, they are that bad...
Ursus and Zaius, I can handle them... I mean Zaius is setting down
and covered with towels anyway, and when Ursus is walking, it's not
that long. It bothers me more that I can see that other Gorilla's
wrist when he's pouring the water than the way the Gorillas
themselves look.

Just be glad they didn't look like the artist had them drawn in the
MARVEL adaption... It's like Ape heads on human bodies... Just
pitiful...

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:

Roddy has said he regrets not doing "Beneath", which ruined his
perfect record in the films. However, he did turn down the cartoon.

Where did you find this out about the cartoon? And, did they
approach any of the other Apes actors (film or tv) to do any voice
work on there?