> Excellent Hunter! You're site is a great for POTA fans. Love those
> ads for Beneath. Have never seen them before.

I hadn't either. Chris said he found them on eBay.

Hunter

Shut up, you freak! I said SHUT UP! (This reads better if you
imagine Julius' voice along with the words)...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:

> Another POTA group? Why don't you call what it is?
>
> It's a madhouse! A madhouse!
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Well the more the merrier.

Glen tells me you had some really great scans that you shared with
the old Extreme group. It would be great if you could share them
here as well.

Also everyone should know the Rory provided the 4:30 movie ads on
the TV ads page of the internal site and the great window card at
the bottom of the Planet one sheet page.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
>
> Another POTA group? Why don't you call what it is?
>
> It's a madhouse! A madhouse!
>
> -- Rory
>

In a message dated 8/6/04 11:49:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
JamesA1102@... writes:

> Excellent Hunter! You're site is a great for POTA fans. Love those
> ads for Beneath. Have never seen them before.
>

Yes, nice site. I forwarded one of the BENEATH ads to Joe Russo to find out
if he's ever seen it before.

-- Rory


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Hey Mike. Come in, put your feet up and have a drink. Are you going to
Byrant Park next Monday night?

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> Welcome to the Planet of the Apes...Come on in and browse around...
>
> Glen
>

Why don't we all put our photos up in a members photo file? That way we all
know what we look like.

-- Rory


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Good idea Rory. I created a folder for it in the Photos section
called members photos and started it off with a picture of myself
and my old car.
Everyone feel free to add your pic to the folder.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
>
> Why don't we all put our photos up in a members photo file? That
way we all
> know what we look like.
>
> -- Rory
>

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> Hey Mike. Come in, put your feet up and have a drink. Are you going to
> Byrant Park next Monday night?
>

I hope you're going to this, James. I expect a full report on audience
response. Be sure to applaud loudly, maybe even cheer, when Jerry Goldsmith's
credit appears.

-- Rory


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I happy to annouce the addition of two new Databases in the Database
section. http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database
The first is a massive Character Database with over 175 entries from
all the POTA movies, TV Series and Comics.
The second is a Sacred Scrolls Database with entries from the
various films and comics.
Many thanks to Menluth for putting these together and giving us
permission to include them both here.
Everyone should check them out and feel free to add entries.

I fully plan to go. I missed it last year so I'm glad the Bryant
Park Film Festival decided to show Planet again this year.

I only wish they were showing Beneath too. The shot of the library
would get a huge laugh. (FYI for non-New Yorkers: Bryant Park is
adjacent to the New York Public Library.)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> I hope you're going to this, James. I expect a full report on
audience
> response. Be sure to applaud loudly, maybe even cheer, when Jerry
Goldsmith's
> credit appears.
>
> -- Rory
>

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James,

I luv the opening quote...Quite apropos...

G

Thanks to Greg P. and Greg#2, the first two issues of Adventure
Comics' "Blood of the Apes" mini-series are now available for download
in PDF format.

http://www.goatley.com/pota/

Hunter

I'd like that!

Neil, yiou'd like that to right?

Michael

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 8/7/04 3:37:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> HotScheetz@a... writes:
>
>
> > Welcome to the Planet of the Apes...Come on in and browse
around...
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> > Glen
> >
>
> Why don't we all put our photos up in a members photo file? That
way we all
> know what we look like.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Thanks to Greg P. and Greg#2, "Blood of the Apes" issue 3 is now
available!

http://www.goatley.com/pota/

Thanks Hunter, Greg P. and Greg#2. You guys do a great service to
POTA fans.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@g...> wrote:
> Thanks to Greg P. and Greg#2, "Blood of the Apes" issue 3 is now
> available!
>
> http://www.goatley.com/pota/

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Not a lot of posting going on in any of the groups fellas!

I think everybody is in shock.

Michael

PS I am not expecting to see this on the group - just wanted to make a
comment. ;)

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I guess I don't really understand everything going on and what the
question about Aldo is. Zira said that an ape spoke the first word to
a human and that word was no and that's how he Aldo started the apes
revolution. She wasn't specific as to what class of ape it was that
said no, just that it was an ape. To her saying ape was probably like
us saying the word human. What type of human? A white guy a black guy,
a Hispanic fellow. My point is that when she says ape she's probably
just talking about all apes in general, be it gorilla chimp or
orangutan. As to the Great lawgiver statue being an orangutan that
probably has to do with who wrote the sacred scrolls. Since the
Orangutans were the philosophers on the POTA I would figure that they
wrote the scrolls and most likely figured that it would have taken an
intellectual to actually start the revolution and thus it was only
obvious to them that the lawgiver was an orangutan. I'm sure if the
sacred scrolls were written by a gorilla Aldo would have been a
gorilla. One more thing, wasn't Aldo actually the name of Roddy's
character before he chose the name Ceasar? I'm pretty sure it was.

simianarms

NEW YORK TIMES (C) 2004

Fay Wray, an actress who appeared in about 100 movies but whose fame
is inextricably linked with the hours she spent struggling helplessly
and screaming in the eight-foot-hand of King Kong, died on Sunday
night at her apartment on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan. She was 96.
Rick McKay, a friend, announced her death.

The huge success of "King Kong," a beauty-and-the beast film that
opened in New York at both Radio City Music Hall and the Roxy in
1933, led to roles for Miss Wray in other 1930's films in which her
life or her virtue, or both, were imperiled: "Dr. X," "The Mystery of
the Wax Museum," "The Vampire Bat" and "The Most Dangerous Game."

But she was always aware that she would be remembered for the
culmination of "King Kong," in which the giant ape from Skull Island
carries her to the top of the Empire State Building, gently places
her on a ledge, lunges furiously at fighter planes peppering him with
bullets and falls to his death from the 102-story skyscraper, his
strength and power neutralized by love. "When I'm in New York," the
actress wrote in The New York Times in 1969, "I look at the building
and feel as though it belongs to me, or is it vice versa?"

The most hazardous part of filming "King Kong," Miss Wray recalled,
was the tendency of the giant gorilla hand to loosen its grasp while
she was suspended high above the set. When she felt she was about to
fall, she implored the director, Merian C. Cooper, to have her
lowered to the stage floor to rest a few minutes before being secured
once again in the hand and sent aloft.

She spent an entire day recording additional screams, variously
shrill and plaintive, that an editor later inserted in the
soundtrack — too often, she later emphasized. Asked how she was able
to muster such animated cries, she replied, "I made myself believe
that the nearest possible hope of rescue was at least a mile away."

Over the years, Miss Wray said, she came to feel that Kong
had "become a spiritual thing to many people, including me."

"Although he had tremendous strength and power to destroy, some kind
of instinct made him appreciate what he saw as beautiful," she said
in a 1993 interview. "Just before he dies, he reaches toward me, but
can't quite reach. The movie affects males of all ages. Recently, a 6-
year-old boy said to me, `I've been waiting to meet you for half my
life.' "

In a 1987 interview, Miss Wray said she had been sent a script for
the 1976 remake of "King Kong," in which Jessica Lange played Kong's
co-star, because its producers wanted her to play a small role. She
said she disliked the script and declined the offer, because "the
film I made was so extraordinary, so full of imagination and special
effects, that it will never be equaled."

"They shouldn't have tried," she added.

Fay Wray was born on Sept. 15, 1907, on a farm in Alberta, Canada,
the daughter of Jerry Wray, an inventor, and his wife, Vina. The
couple separated when Fay was 12, and her mother moved to Los Angeles
with her five children. As a teen-ager, Miss Wray began acting in bit
parts in movies, then won supporting roles.

After graduating from Hollywood High School, she was the ingénue in a
half-dozen silent westerns and played the bride in Erich von
Stroheim's 1928 silent classic "The Wedding March." Among her
prominent sound films were "The Four Feathers" (1929), "Dirigible"
(1931), "One Sunday Afternoon" (1933), "Viva Villa!" (1934) and "The
Affairs of Cellini" (1934).

Miss Wray was always drawn to writers, as she recounted in her 1989
autobiography, "On the Other Hand." She was just 19 when she married
John Monk Saunders, a Rhodes scholar and screenwriter known for films
like "Wings" and "The Dawn Patrol." Miss Wray recalled that her
husband "had this theme in his life of living dangerously and dying
young." He was a womanizer, an alcoholic and a drug addict, and she
divorced him, she said, after he injected her with drugs while she
slept, sold their house and their furniture and kept the money, and
disappeared for a time with their baby daughter, Susan. During the 11
years they were married, Miss Wray and her husband each earned half a
million dollars, but nothing was left. Mr. Saunders hanged himself in
1940, at 43.

She was pursued by Sinclair Lewis and had a long romance with
Clifford Odets. In 1942, she was married to Robert Riskin, the
Academy Award-winning screenwriter of "It Happened One Night," "Mr.
Deeds Goes to Town," and "Lost Horizon." They had two children, Vicki
and Robert Jr., who survive her, as does her daughter Susan. Mr.
Riskin had a stroke in 1950 and died five years later. In 1971, she
married Dr. Sanford Rothenberg, a neurosurgeon who had been one of
Mr. Riskin's doctors. Dr. Rothenberg died in 1991.

Miss Wray retired in 1942, but made occasional movies in the 1950's
and starred in "Gideon's Trumpet," a 1979 film with Henry Fonda. On
television, she starred in a situation comedy, "The Pride of the
Family," from 1953 to 1955. In later years, she also wrote plays that
were produced in regional theaters.

When Aljean Harmetz of The New York Times visited her in 1989, she
found Miss Wray, then 81, a "cheery woman, a mother hen with black
leather pumps, pearls at the throat, a splash of bright red lipstick
and auburn hair."

Miss Wray said: "I find it not acceptable when people blame Hollywood
for the things that happened to them. Films are wonderful. I've had a
beautiful life because of films."



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Caesar's original name was Milo, named after the ape-o-naut who made
the journey with C and Z and later died in the L.A. zoo from
Escape. If you notice though, the name Milo was never mentioned in
Conquest. The only time a name is mentioned is when Caesar picked
that name for himself. Did Armando rename him Caesar to avoid any
suspicion from the authorities?

Greg#2

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "simianarms" <markalyce@a...> wrote:
> I guess I don't really understand everything going on and what the
> question about Aldo is. Zira said that an ape spoke the first word
to
> a human and that word was no and that's how he Aldo started the
apes
> revolution. She wasn't specific as to what class of ape it was that
> said no, just that it was an ape. To her saying ape was probably
like
> us saying the word human. What type of human? A white guy a black
guy,
> a Hispanic fellow. My point is that when she says ape she's
probably
> just talking about all apes in general, be it gorilla chimp or
> orangutan. As to the Great lawgiver statue being an orangutan that
> probably has to do with who wrote the sacred scrolls. Since the
> Orangutans were the philosophers on the POTA I would figure that
they
> wrote the scrolls and most likely figured that it would have taken
an
> intellectual to actually start the revolution and thus it was only
> obvious to them that the lawgiver was an orangutan. I'm sure if the
> sacred scrolls were written by a gorilla Aldo would have been a
> gorilla. One more thing, wasn't Aldo actually the name of Roddy's
> character before he chose the name Ceasar? I'm pretty sure it was.
>
> simianarms

Armondo probably changed Milo/Caesar's name for security reasons. If
the authorities had ever found out that he had a chimp name Milo in
his circus they would have become suspicious. The weird part is that
he was about to find his name immediately in the Bible. (okay... so
this isn't really my own theory, I stole it from my other group. But
it does explain a lot. I don't own it!) Makes sense huh?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "greg" <gbharris1@y...> wrote:
> Caesar's original name was Milo, named after the ape-o-naut who
made
> the journey with C and Z and later died in the L.A. zoo from
> Escape. If you notice though, the name Milo was never mentioned
in
> Conquest. The only time a name is mentioned is when Caesar picked
> that name for himself. Did Armando rename him Caesar to avoid any
> suspicion from the authorities?
>
> Greg#2
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "simianarms" <markalyce@a...> wrote:
> > I guess I don't really understand everything going on and what
the
> > question about Aldo is. Zira said that an ape spoke the first
word
> to
> > a human and that word was no and that's how he Aldo started the
> apes
> > revolution. She wasn't specific as to what class of ape it was
that
> > said no, just that it was an ape. To her saying ape was probably
> like
> > us saying the word human. What type of human? A white guy a
black
> guy,
> > a Hispanic fellow. My point is that when she says ape she's
> probably
> > just talking about all apes in general, be it gorilla chimp or
> > orangutan. As to the Great lawgiver statue being an orangutan
that
> > probably has to do with who wrote the sacred scrolls. Since the
> > Orangutans were the philosophers on the POTA I would figure that
> they
> > wrote the scrolls and most likely figured that it would have
taken
> an
> > intellectual to actually start the revolution and thus it was
only
> > obvious to them that the lawgiver was an orangutan. I'm sure if
the
> > sacred scrolls were written by a gorilla Aldo would have been a
> > gorilla. One more thing, wasn't Aldo actually the name of Roddy's
> > character before he chose the name Ceasar? I'm pretty sure it
was.
> >
> > simianarms

Thanks Rory. It is a sad day for Ape fans.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> NEW YORK TIMES (C) 2004
>
> Fay Wray, an actress who appeared in about 100 movies but whose
fame
> is inextricably linked with the hours she spent struggling
helplessly
> and screaming in the eight-foot-hand of King Kong, died on Sunday
> night at her apartment on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan. She was 96.
> Rick McKay, a friend, announced her death.
>
> The huge success of "King Kong," a beauty-and-the beast film that
> opened in New York at both Radio City Music Hall and the Roxy in
> 1933, led to roles for Miss Wray in other 1930's films in which
her
> life or her virtue, or both, were imperiled: "Dr. X," "The Mystery
of
> the Wax Museum," "The Vampire Bat" and "The Most Dangerous Game."
>
> But she was always aware that she would be remembered for the
> culmination of "King Kong," in which the giant ape from Skull
Island
> carries her to the top of the Empire State Building, gently places
> her on a ledge, lunges furiously at fighter planes peppering him
with
> bullets and falls to his death from the 102-story skyscraper, his
> strength and power neutralized by love. "When I'm in New York,"
the
> actress wrote in The New York Times in 1969, "I look at the
building
> and feel as though it belongs to me, or is it vice versa?"
>
> The most hazardous part of filming "King Kong," Miss Wray
recalled,
> was the tendency of the giant gorilla hand to loosen its grasp
while
> she was suspended high above the set. When she felt she was about
to
> fall, she implored the director, Merian C. Cooper, to have her
> lowered to the stage floor to rest a few minutes before being
secured
> once again in the hand and sent aloft.
>
> She spent an entire day recording additional screams, variously
> shrill and plaintive, that an editor later inserted in the
> soundtrack â€" too often, she later emphasized. Asked how she was
able
> to muster such animated cries, she replied, "I made myself believe
> that the nearest possible hope of rescue was at least a mile away."
>
> Over the years, Miss Wray said, she came to feel that Kong
> had "become a spiritual thing to many people, including me."
>
> "Although he had tremendous strength and power to destroy, some
kind
> of instinct made him appreciate what he saw as beautiful," she
said
> in a 1993 interview. "Just before he dies, he reaches toward me,
but
> can't quite reach. The movie affects males of all ages. Recently,
a 6-
> year-old boy said to me, `I've been waiting to meet you for half
my
> life.' "
>
> In a 1987 interview, Miss Wray said she had been sent a script for
> the 1976 remake of "King Kong," in which Jessica Lange played
Kong's
> co-star, because its producers wanted her to play a small role.
She
> said she disliked the script and declined the offer, because "the
> film I made was so extraordinary, so full of imagination and
special
> effects, that it will never be equaled."
>
> "They shouldn't have tried," she added.
>
> Fay Wray was born on Sept. 15, 1907, on a farm in Alberta, Canada,
> the daughter of Jerry Wray, an inventor, and his wife, Vina. The
> couple separated when Fay was 12, and her mother moved to Los
Angeles
> with her five children. As a teen-ager, Miss Wray began acting in
bit
> parts in movies, then won supporting roles.
>
> After graduating from Hollywood High School, she was the ingénue
in a
> half-dozen silent westerns and played the bride in Erich von
> Stroheim's 1928 silent classic "The Wedding March." Among her
> prominent sound films were "The Four Feathers" (1929), "Dirigible"
> (1931), "One Sunday Afternoon" (1933), "Viva Villa!" (1934)
and "The
> Affairs of Cellini" (1934).
>
> Miss Wray was always drawn to writers, as she recounted in her
1989
> autobiography, "On the Other Hand." She was just 19 when she
married
> John Monk Saunders, a Rhodes scholar and screenwriter known for
films
> like "Wings" and "The Dawn Patrol." Miss Wray recalled that her
> husband "had this theme in his life of living dangerously and
dying
> young." He was a womanizer, an alcoholic and a drug addict, and
she
> divorced him, she said, after he injected her with drugs while she
> slept, sold their house and their furniture and kept the money,
and
> disappeared for a time with their baby daughter, Susan. During the
11
> years they were married, Miss Wray and her husband each earned
half a
> million dollars, but nothing was left. Mr. Saunders hanged himself
in
> 1940, at 43.
>
> She was pursued by Sinclair Lewis and had a long romance with
> Clifford Odets. In 1942, she was married to Robert Riskin, the
> Academy Award-winning screenwriter of "It Happened One
Night," "Mr.
> Deeds Goes to Town," and "Lost Horizon." They had two children,
Vicki
> and Robert Jr., who survive her, as does her daughter Susan. Mr.
> Riskin had a stroke in 1950 and died five years later. In 1971,
she
> married Dr. Sanford Rothenberg, a neurosurgeon who had been one of
> Mr. Riskin's doctors. Dr. Rothenberg died in 1991.
>
> Miss Wray retired in 1942, but made occasional movies in the
1950's
> and starred in "Gideon's Trumpet," a 1979 film with Henry Fonda.
On
> television, she starred in a situation comedy, "The Pride of the
> Family," from 1953 to 1955. In later years, she also wrote plays
that
> were produced in regional theaters.
>
> When Aljean Harmetz of The New York Times visited her in 1989, she
> found Miss Wray, then 81, a "cheery woman, a mother hen with black
> leather pumps, pearls at the throat, a splash of bright red
lipstick
> and auburn hair."
>
> Miss Wray said: "I find it not acceptable when people blame
Hollywood
> for the things that happened to them. Films are wonderful. I've
had a
> beautiful life because of films."
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I just heard -- how sad..."King Kong" was one of my first fav
movies...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> NEW YORK TIMES (C) 2004
>
> Fay Wray, an actress who appeared in about 100 movies but whose
fame
> is inextricably linked with the hours she spent struggling
helplessly
> and screaming in the eight-foot-hand of King Kong, died on Sunday
> night at her apartment on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan. She was 96.
> Rick McKay, a friend, announced her death.

For anyone who gets Trio and happens to be reading this, "Kolchak: The
Night Stalker" (another great show) is on now. The episode is
"The Werewolf" and one of the guest stars is Eric Braeden (from "Escape").

Just FYI....

In a message dated 8/9/04 7:37:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
JamesA1102@... writes:

> Thanks Rory. It is a sad day for Ape fans.
>

The lights will be dimmed on the Empire State Building tomorrow night in her
honor.

-- Rory


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Adventure Comics' "Blood of the Apes" issue 4 is available for
download now:

http://www.goatley.com/pota/

Hunter

> Adventure Comics' "Blood of the Apes" issue 4 is available for
> download now:

> http://www.goatley.com/pota/

I forgot to mention---the credit again goes to Greg#2 and Greg P.

This is a boring idea. It's a magazine, not a phone book. Anonymouse

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry" <hoknes@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 9:27 PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] would you like to have your name/email
published in the new AC #37 ?


> I would like to promote various POTA fans to getting in touch with
> each other to help build up the community again - would this interest
> you ? do you know of other fans that would like to be listed ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

I kept track of all this stuff and my "Ape Chronicles" collectibles
issues are going to rock. Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "James" <JamesA1102@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 9:46 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: is anybody keeping track of new POTA
product coming out ?


> I don't know if anyone has an official list. All I'm aware of are
> the Medicom figures, the Rittenhouse Heston Cards and the new
> Sideshow figures http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?
> category=apes_12. Of course those are all classic Apes stuff. I
> didn't keep track of all the remake stuff.
>
> My personal favorite are the Medicom figures. I have an original
> Japanese set MOC and a knock-off American set that I use to reenact
> the films on those lonely Saturday nights;-)
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Terry" <hoknes@h...> wrote:
> > does anybody have a website or list of different items that have
> come
> > out in the past couple years?
> >
> > what do you think is the best and/or most unique POTA products to
> > come out lately ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

I already have this covered in another issue. Anonymouse

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry" <hoknes@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 9:25 PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] what do you consider to be the best POTA
related websites?


> My pet peeve with the internet is that many great sites have come and
> gone and new ones have popped up but nobody finds about them except
> by word of mouth
>
> what are your favorites relating to the original movies, the tv
> series, the new movies, 20th century fox, fan based stuff etc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Thanks to Hunter and of course the Gregs!!!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@g...> wrote:
> > Adventure Comics' "Blood of the Apes" issue 4 is available for
> > download now:
>
> > http://www.goatley.com/pota/
>
> I forgot to mention---the credit again goes to Greg#2 and Greg P.

Oh come on Jeff, don't you want us all to have your phone number so
we can call you anytime of the day or night when we have a question
or better yet come visit you when we're in LA.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> This is a boring idea. It's a magazine, not a phone book.
Anonymouse
>

Which one? And is it still available?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> I already have this covered in another issue. Anonymouse
>

Great. Eagerly awaiting the next issue.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> I kept track of all this stuff and my "Ape Chronicles"
collectibles
> issues are going to rock. Jeff
>

I hope they are going to rock a lot harder than Sauseville's book!

Do you have reference to the drum kit and the stained glass window maker?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 2:52 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: is anybody keeping track of new
POTA product coming out ?


I kept track of all this stuff and my "Ape Chronicles" collectibles
issues are going to rock. Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "James" <JamesA1102@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 9:46 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: is anybody keeping track of new POTA
product coming out ?


> I don't know if anyone has an official list. All I'm aware of are
> the Medicom figures, the Rittenhouse Heston Cards and the new
> Sideshow figures http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?
> category=apes_12. Of course those are all classic Apes stuff. I
> didn't keep track of all the remake stuff.
>
> My personal favorite are the Medicom figures. I have an original
> Japanese set MOC and a knock-off American set that I use to reenact
> the films on those lonely Saturday nights;-)
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Terry" <hoknes@h...> wrote:
> > does anybody have a website or list of different items that have
> come
> > out in the past couple years?
> >
> > what do you think is the best and/or most unique POTA products to
> > come out lately ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>






Yahoo! Groups Links




--

I like Simian Scrolls better! ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: James [JamesA1102@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 3:02 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: is anybody keeping track of new POTA
product coming out ?


Great. Eagerly awaiting the next issue.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> I kept track of all this stuff and my "Ape Chronicles"
collectibles
> issues are going to rock. Jeff
>







Yahoo! Groups Links




--

That is a great POTA publication too. Please keep us informed when
the next issue comes out.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> I like Simian Scrolls better! ;)
>

"King Kong" was Arthur Jacobs favorite movie and the inspiration for his
learning of POTA. Without "Kong", POTA as the film series we know wouldn't
exist. The Queen is dead, long live the Queen! Too bad she missed Peter
Jackson's "King Kong". - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "James" <JamesA1102@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 4:34 PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Fay Wray dies


Thanks Rory. It is a sad day for Ape fans.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> NEW YORK TIMES (C) 2004
>
> Fay Wray, an actress who appeared in about 100 movies but whose
fame
> is inextricably linked with the hours she spent struggling
helplessly
> and screaming in the eight-foot-hand of King Kong, died on Sunday
> night at her apartment on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan. She was 96.
> Rick McKay, a friend, announced her death.
>
> The huge success of "King Kong," a beauty-and-the beast film that
> opened in New York at both Radio City Music Hall and the Roxy in
> 1933, led to roles for Miss Wray in other 1930's films in which
her
> life or her virtue, or both, were imperiled: "Dr. X," "The Mystery
of
> the Wax Museum," "The Vampire Bat" and "The Most Dangerous Game."
>
> But she was always aware that she would be remembered for the
> culmination of "King Kong," in which the giant ape from Skull
Island
> carries her to the top of the Empire State Building, gently places
> her on a ledge, lunges furiously at fighter planes peppering him
with
> bullets and falls to his death from the 102-story skyscraper, his
> strength and power neutralized by love. "When I'm in New York,"
the
> actress wrote in The New York Times in 1969, "I look at the
building
> and feel as though it belongs to me, or is it vice versa?"
>
> The most hazardous part of filming "King Kong," Miss Wray
recalled,
> was the tendency of the giant gorilla hand to loosen its grasp
while
> she was suspended high above the set. When she felt she was about
to
> fall, she implored the director, Merian C. Cooper, to have her
> lowered to the stage floor to rest a few minutes before being
secured
> once again in the hand and sent aloft.
>
> She spent an entire day recording additional screams, variously
> shrill and plaintive, that an editor later inserted in the
> soundtrack â?" too often, she later emphasized. Asked how she was
able
> to muster such animated cries, she replied, "I made myself believe
> that the nearest possible hope of rescue was at least a mile away."
>
> Over the years, Miss Wray said, she came to feel that Kong
> had "become a spiritual thing to many people, including me."
>
> "Although he had tremendous strength and power to destroy, some
kind
> of instinct made him appreciate what he saw as beautiful," she
said
> in a 1993 interview. "Just before he dies, he reaches toward me,
but
> can't quite reach. The movie affects males of all ages. Recently,
a 6-
> year-old boy said to me, `I've been waiting to meet you for half
my
> life.' "
>
> In a 1987 interview, Miss Wray said she had been sent a script for
> the 1976 remake of "King Kong," in which Jessica Lange played
Kong's
> co-star, because its producers wanted her to play a small role.
She
> said she disliked the script and declined the offer, because "the
> film I made was so extraordinary, so full of imagination and
special
> effects, that it will never be equaled."
>
> "They shouldn't have tried," she added.
>
> Fay Wray was born on Sept. 15, 1907, on a farm in Alberta, Canada,
> the daughter of Jerry Wray, an inventor, and his wife, Vina. The
> couple separated when Fay was 12, and her mother moved to Los
Angeles
> with her five children. As a teen-ager, Miss Wray began acting in
bit
> parts in movies, then won supporting roles.
>
> After graduating from Hollywood High School, she was the ingénue
in a
> half-dozen silent westerns and played the bride in Erich von
> Stroheim's 1928 silent classic "The Wedding March." Among her
> prominent sound films were "The Four Feathers" (1929), "Dirigible"
> (1931), "One Sunday Afternoon" (1933), "Viva Villa!" (1934)
and "The
> Affairs of Cellini" (1934).
>
> Miss Wray was always drawn to writers, as she recounted in her
1989
> autobiography, "On the Other Hand." She was just 19 when she
married
> John Monk Saunders, a Rhodes scholar and screenwriter known for
films
> like "Wings" and "The Dawn Patrol." Miss Wray recalled that her
> husband "had this theme in his life of living dangerously and
dying
> young." He was a womanizer, an alcoholic and a drug addict, and
she
> divorced him, she said, after he injected her with drugs while she
> slept, sold their house and their furniture and kept the money,
and
> disappeared for a time with their baby daughter, Susan. During the
11
> years they were married, Miss Wray and her husband each earned
half a
> million dollars, but nothing was left. Mr. Saunders hanged himself
in
> 1940, at 43.
>
> She was pursued by Sinclair Lewis and had a long romance with
> Clifford Odets. In 1942, she was married to Robert Riskin, the
> Academy Award-winning screenwriter of "It Happened One
Night," "Mr.
> Deeds Goes to Town," and "Lost Horizon." They had two children,
Vicki
> and Robert Jr., who survive her, as does her daughter Susan. Mr.
> Riskin had a stroke in 1950 and died five years later. In 1971,
she
> married Dr. Sanford Rothenberg, a neurosurgeon who had been one of
> Mr. Riskin's doctors. Dr. Rothenberg died in 1991.
>
> Miss Wray retired in 1942, but made occasional movies in the
1950's
> and starred in "Gideon's Trumpet," a 1979 film with Henry Fonda.
On
> television, she starred in a situation comedy, "The Pride of the
> Family," from 1953 to 1955. In later years, she also wrote plays
that
> were produced in regional theaters.
>
> When Aljean Harmetz of The New York Times visited her in 1989, she
> found Miss Wray, then 81, a "cheery woman, a mother hen with black
> leather pumps, pearls at the throat, a splash of bright red
lipstick
> and auburn hair."
>
> Miss Wray said: "I find it not acceptable when people blame
Hollywood
> for the things that happened to them. Films are wonderful. I've
had a
> beautiful life because of films."
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






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on 8/9/04 4:34 PM, simianarms at markalyce@... wrote:

I guess I don't really understand everything going on and what the
question about Aldo is. Zira said that an ape spoke the first word to
a human and that word was no and that's how he Aldo started the apes
revolution. She wasn't specific as to what class of ape it was that
said no, just that it was an ape. To her saying ape was probably like
us saying the word human. What type of human? A white guy a black guy,
a Hispanic fellow. My point is that when she says ape she's probably
just talking about all apes in general, be it gorilla chimp or
orangutan. As to the Great lawgiver statue being an orangutan that
probably has to do with who wrote the sacred scrolls. Since the
Orangutans were the philosophers on the POTA I would figure that they
wrote the scrolls and most likely figured that it would have taken an
intellectual to actually start the revolution and thus it was only
obvious to them that the lawgiver was an orangutan. I'm sure if the
sacred scrolls were written by a gorilla Aldo would have been a
gorilla. One more thing, wasn't Aldo actually the name of Roddy's
character before he chose the name Ceasar? I'm pretty sure it was.

simianarms



I always thought Ceasar's name was actually Milo. Cornelius and Zira named
him after Milo, the chimp who died in the zoo at the hands of the depressed
gorilla. We never actually hear Armando calling him Milo, but I'd be
willing to bet that that was his childhood name in the circus. I have
always thought he chose Ceasar in the presence of Governor Breck to make
subtle point and then, the name just stuck. Anybody else care to put their
two cents in on this one?

Will


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Part of the "To Do" list. - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "James" <JamesA1102@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] what do you consider to be the best POTA
related websites?


> Which one? And is it still available?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > I already have this covered in another issue. Anonymouse
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:

> That is a great POTA publication too. Please keep us informed when
> the next issue comes out.

Simian Scrolls Issue 9 will hopefully start shipping in about two to three weeks
time.

The announcement that Ape Chronicles is set to return unfortunately came
too late to be promoted in this latest issue but we wish Terry and Jeff every
success with it and would urge all true ape fans to subscribe.

The more fanzines that are out there the better.

Dave

on 8/10/04 1:17 AM, Dave B at dave@... wrote:

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> That is a great POTA publication too. Please keep us informed when
> the next issue comes out.

Simian Scrolls Issue 9 will hopefully start shipping in about two to three
weeks
time.

The announcement that Ape Chronicles is set to return unfortunately came
too late to be promoted in this latest issue but we wish Terry and Jeff
every
success with it and would urge all true ape fans to subscribe.

The more fanzines that are out there the better.

Dave


How would one go about subscribing to Ape Chronicles and/or Simian Scrolls?

Will


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I agree totally, and I hope John and Terry (and whoever else on both sides)
can get together and co-ordinate this (slightly) so that we don't have two
issues on the same theme coming out in the same month (etc).

I guess I really hope the two magazines can COMPLIMENT each other instead of
trying to COMPETE.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave B [dave@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:17 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Simian Scrolls
potaFC@yahoogroups.com

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> That is a great POTA publication too. Please keep us informed when
> the next issue comes out.

Simian Scrolls Issue 9 will hopefully start shipping in about two to three
weeks
time.

The announcement that Ape Chronicles is set to return unfortunately came
too late to be promoted in this latest issue but we wish Terry and Jeff
every
success with it and would urge all true ape fans to subscribe.

The more fanzines that are out there the better.

Dave

is there an official website that promotes Simian Scrolls ?
I doubt I would ever land up repeating much info anyways since the direction I take is not usually predictable (i hope haha)

Ape Chronicles subscription info = write me at Hoknes@...
thanks



I agree totally, and I hope John and Terry (and whoever else on both sides)
can get together and co-ordinate this (slightly) so that we don't have two
issues on the same theme coming out in the same month (etc).

I guess I really hope the two magazines can COMPLIMENT each other instead of
trying to COMPETE.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave B [dave@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:17 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Simian Scrolls
potaFC@yahoogroups.com

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> That is a great POTA publication too. Please keep us informed when
> the next issue comes out.

Simian Scrolls Issue 9 will hopefully start shipping in about two to three
weeks
time.

The announcement that Ape Chronicles is set to return unfortunately came
too late to be promoted in this latest issue but we wish Terry and Jeff
every
success with it and would urge all true ape fans to subscribe.

The more fanzines that are out there the better.

Dave













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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Will Hoover <will5967@v...> wrote:

> How would one go about subscribing to Ape Chronicles and/or Simian

Scrolls?

Hi Will,

For Ape Chronicles contact Terry Hoknes at : <hoknes@...>
For Simian Scrolls contact John Roche at: <mail@...>

John has email troubles at the moment so please be patient if you don't get a
reply straight away.

Dave

Hi James
Yes I know about your site - you have my model Icarus featured on there - my
name is Les Hemstock.

By the way - I now own an amazing Icarus original..I have the very last of
only a few pulls from the now destroyed moulds of the proto type Icarus
designed and cut by Mr Creeber.

Its a bit rough but a great original piece and very valuable.

I hope the site is going well its one of the best out there and certainly
the best Icarus site.

By the way - do you know if the Icarus miniature hanging at Floridas Planet
Hollywood Restaraunt is the original miniature used in the movies sinking
scenes - or a replica?

I also heard Bob Burns owns the original - any chnace of clearing this up as
Id love to know?

Thanks James

Best wishes
Les.

----- Original Message -----
From: <JamesA1102@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 6:43 PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: New pota member


>
> Welcome Ansanaut!!! This is the creator of the great Icarus website I
> mentioned earlier _http://www.goingfaster.com/icarus/tableofcontents.html
> (http://www.goingfaster.com/icarus/tableofcontents.html everyone should
check it out.
>
> In a message dated 8/6/2004 1:26:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> notify@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
> Hello,
>
> This is an automated email message to let you know that
> ansanaut <les.hemstock@...> joined your pota
> group.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

The SciFi Channel will be having a marathon showing of all 5 Apes films on Sunday, September 5 starting at 9:00 a.m. Eastern.

Greg P.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Oh! That is sooo exciting. It has been a long time since the Planet
of the Apes has been on TV. Wow! I can't wait. Thanks for info.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> The SciFi Channel will be having a marathon showing of all 5 Apes
films on Sunday, September 5 starting at 9:00 a.m. Eastern.
>
> Greg P.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Was a decision ever made to make back issues of SCROLLS available?

Dan

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave B
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:35 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Simian Scrolls


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Will Hoover <will5967@v...> wrote:

> How would one go about subscribing to Ape Chronicles and/or Simian
Scrolls?

Hi Will,

For Ape Chronicles contact Terry Hoknes at : <hoknes@...>
For Simian Scrolls contact John Roche at: <mail@...>

John has email troubles at the moment so please be patient if you don't get a
reply straight away.

Dave










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Guys

Your email addresses are not showing properly!

Michael

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Will Hoover <will5967@v...> wrote:
>
> > How would one go about subscribing to Ape Chronicles and/or
Simian
> Scrolls?
>
> Hi Will,
>
> For Ape Chronicles contact Terry Hoknes at : <hoknes@h...>
> For Simian Scrolls contact John Roche at: <mail@m...>
>
> John has email troubles at the moment so please be patient if you
don't get a
> reply straight away.
>
> Dave

> Your email addresses are not showing properly!

That's a security feature of Yahoo! when using the web interface (and
possibly the email interface).

Hunter

The email addresses are:

For Simian Scrolls mail @ mediationhouse.com
For Ape Chronicles hoknes @ hotmail.com

Just delete the spaces before and after the @ symbol.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@g...> wrote:
> > Your email addresses are not showing properly!
>
> That's a security feature of Yahoo! when using the web interface
(and
> possibly the email interface).
>
> Hunter

Welcome to the Planet of the Apes...Feel free to come on in and
browse around...And to post...

G

James, I just luv the new banner photo...I think you should be Dr.
Zaius, Dave should be the President of the Academy and I should be
Dr. Maximus...

G

Armando does refer to Caesar as Caesar early in Conquest:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Caesar1.jpg
Now originally he was named Milo and exchanged for a baby named
Salome then became Caesar at some point.
Now when he picked his name in front of Breck, why didn't Breck say
hey isn't Caesar the name of the talking chimp we're looking for. Of
course Armando may have given the authorities a fake name to throw
them off the track.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Will Hoover <will5967@v...> wrote:
> I always thought Ceasar's name was actually Milo. Cornelius and
Zira named
> him after Milo, the chimp who died in the zoo at the hands of the
depressed
> gorilla. We never actually hear Armando calling him Milo, but I'd
be
> willing to bet that that was his childhood name in the circus. I
have
> always thought he chose Ceasar in the presence of Governor Breck
to make
> subtle point and then, the name just stuck. Anybody else care to
put their
> two cents in on this one?
>
> Will
>

Hi Terry
I hope youre well - its good to hear about the mag..
Good luck with it - I hope I get a complimentary copy if I contribute?
;-)

I just did an interview on Sky Channel TV last week - they are making a documentary about the top 10 moments in sci-fi. I took my Chimp mannequin with me and he features in the background of my interview. They said it should go out in September. The Apes sequnces will feature new interviews with Linda Harrison and William Creeber.

I have an extensive ape props/costumes collection including;

Roddy McDowell Cornelius style Original 1968 Chimp costume with original
Roddy MCDowell Glyphs
Buck Kartalian Original 1968 leather Gorilla costume with all original boots
gloves and weapons
Original Chimp background mask from 1968 unrestored
Vinyl background Gorilla costume created for and used in Beneath the Planet
of the apes.
Original Orange Orangutan costume as worn by Thomas Gomez in his last movie
role before he died.
Roddy McDowell Chimp make up appliance Orig
Female Chimp appliance Orig Unused
Woodrow Parfrey Gorilla make up appliance Orig Unused
Original Icarus spaceship prototype cast - last one ever pulled before mould
was destroyed.
15" model case of Icarus spaceship
Original Gorilla boot toe moulds
Original Ursus/Urko screen used rare belt bandolier
Custom made prof. model of Beach scene
2001 Apes Gorilla costume complete
2001 Commander Vasich leather astronaut costume complete with headset
Conquest of the Planet of the apes Green cimp jumpsuit same as worn by Roddy
McDowell
All actors autographs in displays old and new apes movies
Full collection of figures - photos - lobby cards - books - cards -
magazines & posters.
2001 Apes Oberon ship computer panel large
2001 Apes screen used full size baby Chimp from Oberon ship scenes and in
Ape City

Lots more pieces including all the figures and rareties [dark cornelius etc] - magazines - books - photos including rare behind scenes photos not published.
If you would like to run a feature on my collection let me know. It would be great if each issue featured collectors and their pieces.

I have produced an apes tune at the studio too - maybe you would like to duplicate it and feature it in the mag?
Brian Penikas likes it too.

Look forward to hearing from you Terry
Cheers
Les.

----- Original Message -----
From: Hoknes
To: pota@yahoogroups.com ; apechronicles@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:20 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] APE CHRONICLES is back ! - the InternationalPOTA Fan Club Fanzine (started 1991)


Here is our current info
Ape Chronicles #37 is in the works - I would like YOU to help contribute to our first issue in 4 yrs

PUBLISHER
Terry Hoknes
2449 Eastview
Saskatoon, SK
Canada

(306) 373-5182
hoknes@... or terryhoknes@...
www.hoknes.com/apes.htm








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> In case anyone wanted to know the exact time:
>
> The Empire State Building plans to honor the legendary scream queen
> by dimming the tower lights Tuesday night from 9:30pm to 9:45pm EDT.

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The great "Twilight Zone' TV show is coming to DVD. Actually, it's been released before (every episode?) but in a scattershot manner. Now it's being released in season sets, in order the way it should be. The schedule right now is as such (courtesy www.tvshowsondvd.com ):
Season 1 - - - 12/28/04
Season 2 - - - 3/29/05
Season 3 - - - 6/28/05
Season 4 - - - 10/18/05
Season 5 - - - 12/27/05
What does this have to do with anything? Well, a certain dude named Rod Serling was the main force behind this show and he also slummed as the writer of the original POTA, as well as throwing in his two cents on "Beneath" and the TV show. There were also POTA stars like Roddy McDowell and Natalie Trundy in it. Serling also did "Night Gallery" and Season One of that comes out Aug. 24 (Roddy is in one of those eps too). Those who already have TZ on DVD and feel like they're in the twilight zone themselves, you're not alone. The original "Star Trek" also had a scattershot DVD release and now is being released season by season. I guess multiple releases is par for the course for sci-fi classics. POTA fans also know what it's like to rebuy DVDs.
"Picture a fan who buys a DVD and then the next time he goes into the store, he sees the same DVD in a new package. He knows he has that...but he doesn't. So he buys it. And then the next time it's new yet again. And again. Our fan will continue to buy the same DVD until the day he dies. He's just crossed over into the Business Zone".
- - - Jeff



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Oh man!

I just paid $500 for the Gold Edition - a limited set that was supposed to
be the only way we would see them in season sequence!

Thanks a lot Jeff! ;)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 9:37 AM
To: pota_Phenomenon@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; the gang
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] OT: "Do do do do, do do do do . . . "


The great "Twilight Zone' TV show is coming to DVD. Actually, it's been
released before (every episode?) but in a scattershot manner. Now it's being
released in season sets, in order the way it should be. The schedule right
now is as such (courtesy www.tvshowsondvd.com ):
Season 1 - - - 12/28/04
Season 2 - - - 3/29/05
Season 3 - - - 6/28/05
Season 4 - - - 10/18/05
Season 5 - - - 12/27/05
What does this have to do with anything? Well, a certain dude named Rod
Serling was the main force behind this show and he also slummed as the
writer of the original POTA, as well as throwing in his two cents on
"Beneath" and the TV show. There were also POTA stars like Roddy McDowell
and Natalie Trundy in it. Serling also did "Night Gallery" and Season One of
that comes out Aug. 24 (Roddy is in one of those eps too). Those who already
have TZ on DVD and feel like they're in the twilight zone themselves, you're
not alone. The original "Star Trek" also had a scattershot DVD release and
now is being released season by season. I guess multiple releases is par for
the course for sci-fi classics. POTA fans also know what it's like to rebuy
DVDs.
"Picture a fan who buys a DVD and then the next time he goes into the
store, he sees the same DVD in a new package. He knows he has that...but he
doesn't. So he buys it. And then the next time it's new yet again. And
again. Our fan will continue to buy the same DVD until the day he dies.
He's just crossed over into the Business Zone".
- - -
Jeff



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Yahoo! Groups Links




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I agree!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Glen [HotScheetz@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 6:56 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] New banner photo


James, I just luv the new banner photo...I think you should be Dr.
Zaius, Dave should be the President of the Academy and I should be
Dr. Maximus...

G

In a message dated 8/10/04 7:47:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Michael.Whitty@... writes:

> Oh man!
>
> I just paid $500 for the Gold Edition - a limited set that was supposed to
> be the only way we would see them in season sequence!
>
> Thanks a lot Jeff! ;)
>
> Michael
>

I told you!

-- Rory


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Yeah, I know!

You were right about the 35th Anniversary DVD too...it is not a rip off! It
is one of the most amazing things ever! I plead insanity and take the 5th.

I just bit the bullet and bought that Goldsmith interview. I'll get a copy
to you straight away and if you think it is deserving, I would ask that you
seek out a bunch of appropriate photos and we look for someone to throw them
together on a downloadable web location.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 11:57 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OT: "Do do do do, do do do do . . . "


In a message dated 8/10/04 7:47:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Michael.Whitty@... writes:

In a message dated 8/10/04 10:36:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Michael.Whitty@... writes:

> I just bit the bullet and bought that Goldsmith interview. I'll get a copy
> to you straight away and if you think it is deserving, I would ask that you
> seek out a bunch of appropriate photos and we look for someone to throw them
> together on a downloadable web location.
>
> Michael
>

What are you talking about?


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Thanks for the info...

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
>
> > In case anyone wanted to know the exact time:
> >
> > The Empire State Building plans to honor the legendary scream
queen
> > by dimming the tower lights Tuesday night from 9:30pm to 9:45pm
EDT.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

What can we do about it?...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@g...> wrote:
> > Your email addresses are not showing properly!
>
> That's a security feature of Yahoo! when using the web interface
(and
> possibly the email interface).
>
> Hunter

You're not that far off topic, Jeff...Twilight Zone to Rod Serling to
Planet of the Apes...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> The great "Twilight Zone' TV show is coming to DVD. Actually,
it's been released before (every episode?) but in a scattershot
manner. Now it's being released in season sets, in order the way it
should be. The schedule right now is as such (courtesy
www.tvshowsondvd.com ):
> Season 1 - - - 12/28/04
> Season 2 - - - 3/29/05
> Season 3 - - - 6/28/05
> Season 4 - - - 10/18/05
> Season 5 - - - 12/27/05
> What does this have to do with anything? Well, a certain dude
named Rod Serling was the main force behind this show and he also
slummed as the writer of the original POTA, as well as throwing in
his two cents on "Beneath" and the TV show. There were also POTA
stars like Roddy McDowell and Natalie Trundy in it. Serling also
did "Night Gallery" and Season One of that comes out Aug. 24 (Roddy
is in one of those eps too). Those who already have TZ on DVD and
feel like they're in the twilight zone themselves, you're not alone.
The original "Star Trek" also had a scattershot DVD release and now
is being released season by season. I guess multiple releases is par
for the course for sci-fi classics. POTA fans also know what it's
like to rebuy DVDs.
> "Picture a fan who buys a DVD and then the next time he goes into
the store, he sees the same DVD in a new package. He knows he has
that...but he doesn't. So he buys it. And then the next time it's new
yet again. And again. Our fan will continue to buy the same DVD until
the day he dies. He's just crossed over into the Business Zone".
>
- - - Jeff
>
>
>
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the Beast.....

Plans are underway to bring you the conclusion on Hunter's website.

The conclusion spans 4 pages and marks the beginning of the new
comic...based on the TV Show characters.

Here is where you can catch up with the story so far......

<http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/>
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/

<http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaFC/>
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaFC/

Michael

PS James & Glen - if you have a link from your group please replace it
above when you moderate this email.....







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Welcome to the Planet of the Apes...Feel free to come on in and
browse our features...And be sure to post...

Glen

An invitation to one and all...:

The moderators of the Planet of the Apes are beginning a
collaborative project, and you're all invited to participate...

We are in the discussion stages of a comic strip project...We'd like
your imput...:

Do you want to see it weekly or monthly, or something in between...
What is the venue you want to see:...Off the movies, if so
where...Off the TV series, if so where...Off the animated series, if
so where...Something original, give us details...
This is wide open right now...Do you want it in color or black and
white...
Here's the important one:...We have a few artists already, but if you
have ANY talent that you can lend to this project, we want to hear
from you...The more, the merrier...

So, get your ideas to us, and let's get the first project on the
Planet of the Apes off the ground...

G

Welcome to the Planet of the Apes...Feel free to browse around and to
post...

Glen

on 8/10/04 4:19 PM, James at JamesA1102@... wrote:

Armando does refer to Caesar as Caesar early in Conquest:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Caesar1.jpg
Now originally he was named Milo and exchanged for a baby named
Salome then became Caesar at some point.
Now when he picked his name in front of Breck, why didn't Breck say
hey isn't Caesar the name of the talking chimp we're looking for. Of
course Armando may have given the authorities a fake name to throw
them off the track.


Hey James, is that a screen capture with the captions on from your DVD of
Conquest? Either way, good work!

Will


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Welcome to the Planet of the Apes...Come on in and browse our
features...And post...

Glen

Welcome to the Planet of the Apes...Feel free to browse around our
site and to post...

Glen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Will Hoover <will5967@v...> wrote:

> Now when he picked his name in front of Breck, why didn't Breck say
> hey isn't Caesar the name of the talking chimp we're looking for. Of
> course Armando may have given the authorities a fake name to throw
> them off the track.

Will, My award winning suggestion for this discrepancy (it bagged me a
Medicom Greatest Ape!) was that Caesar may have only been known by that
name privately - and that on his papers, the ones that are shown to the guards
at the heliport and to Kolp and Breck - PERHAPS there was another name, a
public or stage name like "MARVELO the performing chimp".

He was the top act for Armando's circus so maybe Breck was looking for
'Marvelo - the performing chimp' and not Caeser?

feeble but possible.

Dave B

Neil Foster could help....but I think he's busy illustrating a book on
Philosophy....Neil?

Anyway, I'd like to offer the help and support of the members of the POTADG
and POTAFG, and wish you better luck than the first time you tried this and
the last "calendars" project...good luck fellas!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Glen [HotScheetz@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 3:30 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] First project on the POTA...


An invitation to one and all...:

The moderators of the Planet of the Apes are beginning a
collaborative project, and you're all invited to participate...

We are in the discussion stages of a comic strip project...We'd like
your imput...:

Do you want to see it weekly or monthly, or something in between...
What is the venue you want to see:...Off the movies, if so
where...Off the TV series, if so where...Off the animated series, if
so where...Something original, give us details...
This is wide open right now...Do you want it in color or black and
white...
Here's the important one:...We have a few artists already, but if you
have ANY talent that you can lend to this project, we want to hear
from you...The more, the merrier...

So, get your ideas to us, and let's get the first project on the
Planet of the Apes off the ground...

G

Since Ansanaut is here I thought I would bring up one of my pet
theories about Taylor's Spacecraft. (And please forgive me all those
that have heard this before.)

Much has been made that the ship in which C&Z landed in LA was
shorter than Taylor's ship seen in Planet.

It has always been my pet theories that the ANSA spacecraft were
multi-stage vehicles like real NASA ships of the period.

If you look at Brent's ship in Beneath it is even longer than the
portion of Taylor's ship seen in Planet.

Thus, each ship had a landing stage (destroyed on Brent's ship and
underwater on Taylor's) which would then act as a launch platform
for the re-launch stage (the tail end seen partially intact on both
Taylor's & Brent's ships) and finally the re-entry capsule (which is
what C&Z splashed down in).

Does it make any sense? I'm curious to know what Ansanaut or anyone
else thinks about this.

> By the way - do you know if the Icarus miniature hanging at Floridas Planet
> Hollywood Restaraunt is the original miniature used in the movies sinking
> scenes - or a replica?

I've wondered that, too. I had the impression for some reason that
they claimed it was the original, but I don't know if it is or not.
Still cool, either way (as is the giant Alien Queen hanging there).

Hunter

Welcome to the Planet of the Apes...Feel free to check out what we
have to offer...And to post...

Glen

Welcome to the Planet of the Apes...Come on in and browse around our
features...And post...

Glen