I don't remember anyone saying "oh wow" or being jealous, but I
thought it was cool. So I don't know how it compared to the other
play sets (I didn't have any others), like the fortress and the
village.

Maybe someone else has a better idea of their "ranking"?

John O.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...> wrote:
> so was the tree-house playset the most coveted item when you were
child?
> kind of like the star wars death star set a few years later?
>

.html.htmlLook at this picture... There is a SCI-FI Channel logo on it!!! Evans was deceased before that network ever existed, yet he signed a photo with it's logo on it? Someone on eBay had better get their sh*t straight...



eBay item 3860025630 (Ends Dec-19-04 14:51:00 PST) - MAURICE EVANS SIGNED BENEATH THE PLANET OF APES <.html<.html

I asked the seller if it was a 'sci fi channel' logo and reminded him that Evans passed away
three years prior to the network's launch. i am awaiting a reply.

mark t

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> Look at this picture... There is a SCI-FI Channel logo on it!!! Evans was
> deceased before that network ever existed, yet he signed a photo with it's logo
> on it? Someone on eBay had better get their sh*t straight...
>
>
>
> eBay item 3860025630 (Ends Dec-19-04 14:51:00 PST) - MAURICE EVANS SIGNED
> BENEATH THE PLANET OF APES

I had the treehouse. I remember my brother peeing on it too. All I have today from the
70's are some Topps cards and a gorilla soldier still sealed and on the card. I will post a
pic of me holding it.

Mark

I bet Kassidy Rae is the seller of this ebay fraud. We all know about her fraudulent
questions for the Ape TV show contest.
Ha! Kidding.
But I'm kidding in sunny Clearwater Florida.

Mark T

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@g...> wrote:

> Card 9 was the rare one in my hometown. I did finally trade for one,
> but I think it was months after I started collecting them that I
> finally got that one.

In the UK the TV cards appeared during the height of the Apemania that
gripped the nation. As soon as I heard my local store had them in stock I
broke open the piggy bank and bought 36 packs all in one go.

I think I was still about three short of a complete set but I had so many doubles
(swapsies) I remember trading 10-15 each for any ones I didn't have. I had a
complete set in just a couple of days.

Happy days!

Dave

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...> wrote:

> ray-
> please tell more about meeting linda harrison.
> i met her, too, and it was quite an experience, although she did

not try to hug me.

> although meeting don pedro colley was pretty great.
> btw, did i tell everyone that i recently met felix silla? he was

very nice.

> rob/ron
>

Rob,

Ms. Harrison was appearing at a SciFi/Toy show in South Jersey near
Philadelphia a few years ago.
She was delightful. Very pleasant.
Not to make you jealous, but she did hug me. :)
She agreed to a picture with me and I thought I'd just stand next to
her. I didn't want to presume to put my arm around her, but when I
got next to her, she put her arm around me.
Since "Nova" was one of my earliest crushes, I was thrilled. She
still looks great.

-Ray
rayalma.com

I love all my original 70's merch. such as the megos,board game,book
& records,colorforms etc. but I think my collection of autographed
8x10 photos (mostly from Time Machine collectibles) are my favorites
now. I now have over 30 autographed photos from various Planet of the
Apes stars.

"Where are they now" - regarding favorite POTA collectibles:
One of my Mego soldier apes is encased in the cement stoop of my
mother's house.
When I was a teenager, after I discovered girls and stopped playing
with toys, I had one beat up Soldier Ape left. The front stoop of my
house was being re-done. It's hollow inside. Before the workers
finished sealing it up, I chucked the Ape inside.
I thought that it would be cool thing for someone to find "in the
future". Too bad it didn't talk.

As far as I know, it's still in there.

-Ray
rayalma.com

> In the UK the TV cards appeared during the height of the Apemania that
> gripped the nation. As soon as I heard my local store had them in stock I
> broke open the piggy bank and bought 36 packs all in one go.

I always wanted to do that, but never had the money. I had to settle
for buying a pack or two each week.

> I think I was still about three short of a complete set but I had so many doubles
> (swapsies) I remember trading 10-15 each for any ones I didn't have.

Wow! I'd have traded with you, too! 8-)

> Happy days!

Indeed!

Hunter

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...> wrote:
> ray-
> please tell more about meeting linda harrison.
> i met her, too, and it was quite an experience, although she did
not try to hug me.
> although meeting don pedro colley was pretty great.
> btw, did i tell everyone that i recently met felix silla? he was
very nice.
> rob/ron
>

Rob,

Ms. Harrison was appearing at a SciFi/Toy show in South Jersey near
Philadelphia a few years ago.
She was delightful. Very pleasant.
Not to make you jealous, but she did hug me. :)
She agreed to a picture with me and I thought I'd just stand next to
her. I didn't want to presume to put my arm around her, but when I
got next to her, she put her arm around me.
Since "Nova" was one of my earliest crushes, I was thrilled. She
still looks great.

-Ray
rayalma.com









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go vegetarian!

I love all my original 70's merch. such as the megos,board game,book
& records,colorforms etc. but I think my collection of autographed
8x10 photos (mostly from Time Machine collectibles) are my favorites
now. I now have over 30 autographed photos from various Planet of the
Apes stars.








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go vegetarian!

My Favorites include one with Roddy and Kim's autographs on an 8x10
of them holding baby Milo from Escape. James Gregory as Ursus. I have
one with Lou Wagner and Linda Harrison that's pretty cool. I have 5
different Charlton Heston's, my favorite is a recent head shot that a
friend got for me through his work with the NRA. I really want James
Naughton and Ricardo Montalban's!!!

.html.htmlIn a message dated 12/17/04 2:35:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

I love all my original 70's merch. such as the megos,board game,book
& records,colorforms etc. but I think my collection of autographed
8x10 photos (mostly from Time Machine collectibles) are my favorites
now. I now have over 30 autographed photos from various Planet of the
Apes stars.

Got a Maurice Evans?

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 12/17/2004 12:56:20 AM Central Standard Time, rkid67@... writes:

I asked the seller if it was a 'sci fi channel' logo and reminded him that Evans passed away three years prior to the network's launch.  i am awaiting a reply.

I wrote them too after I seen that listing... I asked basically what you asked here, and I have not heard back from them either...

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No. He's one I never got... But I hear he's been signing 8x10's for
the SCI FI channel. Don't ya love Ebay? hehehe

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:

> I love all my original 70's merch. such as the megos,board

game,book & records,colorforms etc.

Hi John,
I loved that POTA game. It's another one that got given away (that
time my sister's yard sale a few years ago!). I have since bought
that one back on eBay. I was very pleased to have got the bilingual
(French-English) Canadian version, which is the one I had
originally. Having the French on it makes me feel that much closer
to P. Boulle. Call me strange, but it does! My best friend and I
played the Milton Bradley POTA board game for hours on end when we
were kids. I have since played it with my nephew. He loved getting
the humans to fall into that trap! He was also convinced that the
human male in the game must surely be Brent, and not Taylor, which I
found interesting.
Menluth.

I have yet to get the new 12" Dr. Zaius from Sideshow (regular
version), but I've seen it in the box. A couple of quick impressions:
-Color of outfit looks off to me. Not orange enough. More like a
light coffee color instead.
-Jacket looks a little too long. I think it should be higher above
his knees. Nitpicky, I know, but hey, where else can you be nitpicky
about how accurate a POTA collectible is, except here?
-Glyphs on jacket are very lightly embossed in vinyl. Detail of the
headsculpt is "soft". The pictures of the prototype (at Sideshow's
website and on the box) look much better.

That being said, I think he still looks pretty cool!
I know I'm gettin him for Christmas and I can't wait. He's not
perfect, but he's pretty good.

Here's a link to a site with a more extensive review (with pictures):

http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_121704a.htm

I'm curious to hear what other POTA fans will have to say after they
get him.

-Ray
www.rayalma.com

It seems appropriate that with all this talk about favorite POTA
collectibles, that the Mego figures are featured in the latest issue
of Tomart's Action Figure Digest (#129, Jan.'05).
Five and a half pages, starting on page 25. It's part of their
ongoing "History of Mego" series.
There are some good pictures.
There is also a good picture of the upcoming Sideshow, 12", Gorilla
Marauder on page 4.

-Ray
www.rayalma.com

.html.htmlIn a message dated 12/18/04 12:08:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, ursus3978@... writes:

Here's a link to a site with a more extensive review (with pictures):

http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_121704a.htm

I'm curious to hear what other POTA fans will have to say after they
get him.

-Ray
www.rayalma.com

Thanks for posting that.  I pretty much agree with everything you write.  I was disappointed in the exclusive figure.  Maybe with your pictures here others can see why.  The regular version is on the way.  I do think I'll like the mini Lawgiver.

-- Rory<.html <.html

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----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 6:50 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] PA68 references in PA01

In a message dated 12/13/2004 8:10:26 PM Central Standard Time, menluth@... writes:

One that comes to mind (and I think Burton
mentions this in the commentary, doesn't he?) is the look of Calima
(ruins of the USAF Oberon). The ruin was designed to be reminiscent
of the crown of the burnt-out Statue of Liberty from Schaffner's
film.

I never seen pota2001, but have seen pictures of the wrecked ship in the desert... To me, those ruins look more like the (RETURN ) Brent's ship than the Statue of Liberty...

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Nice to meet you, Ray. That Burton parody was a classic. I always thought
someone in the "Ape" know did that. - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray" <ursus3978@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:42 PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] New member


>
>
>
> Hello. I just joined.
> My name is Ray Alma. I'm a freelance cartoonist and huge POTA fan.
> One of my main clients is Mad magazine. I was lucky enough (or
> unlucky, depending on how you feel about it) to draw the Mad
> adapation of the Burton remake in 2001. It appeared in Mad #411. I
> threw in as many references to the original movie series that I could.
> I uploaded some excerpts from the Mad piece in the FanArt section.
> I hope you guys like them.
>
> I collect action figures, mainly G.I.Joes. They were the main toy I
> enjoyed as a kid, but I also loved my 8" Mego POTA figures and have
> been collecting them as well. I always wanted G.I.Joe scale Ape
> figures, and I'm very excited and hopeful about the upcoming Sideshow
> figures. The Hasbro ones just didn't cut it.
> Collecting the Megos and buying Sausville's POTA collectibles book
> has led me to expand my POTA collecting. I mainly tried to re-acquire
> the stuff I had as a kid; the Marvel comic/magazines, TV trading
> cards,puzzles,models, etc.
> I also like some new stuff. I just completed the Medicom 6" figures.
>
> I look forward to contributing to this site.
> Thanks.
> Happy Holidays!
>
> -Ray
> www.rayalma.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original POTA One
Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much
more...
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I've thought about this for awhile and as hard as it
is to pick one item from all that I have....I'd have
to pick out:

-Megos....Especially Zira Cornelius and Zaius...these
I had as a kid and were the closest likeness to
Apes....Had a lot of fun with them even tho I had
no playsets. Cornelius' elastic has disintegrated but
I have a couple others now and one on card.

-Don Post mask of Cornelius. Had a lot of fun with
that as well....wearing it to the mall and freaking
people out!

and my foreign poster collection......always enjoy
finding those!

Tim



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.html.htmlFrom imdb.com:

Liv Tyler Names Son Milo

Lord Of The Rings beauty Liv Tyler has announced the name of her newborn baby boy - Milo William Langdon. Tyler and her husband, Royston Langdon, welcomed Milo in the early hours of Tuesday morning at a New York hospital. The baby weighed in at 8 pounds. Tyler said she'd loved the name ever since she saw the movie "Escape from the Planet of the Apes" when she was a child.  In the 1971 film, one of the sequels to the science fiction classic from 1968, a baby chimp is named Milo by his smart simian parents. This is the first child for Tyler, 27, and her English rocker husband, 32. Tyler and Langdon married on 25 March 2003, in Barbados after a two-year engagement.




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You almost had me fooled.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> From imdb.com:
>
> Liv Tyler Names Son Milo
>
> Lord Of The Rings beauty Liv Tyler has announced the name of her newborn baby
> boy - Milo William Langdon. Tyler and her husband, Royston Langdon, welcomed
> Milo in the early hours of Tuesday morning at a New York hospital. The baby
> weighed in at 8 pounds. Tyler said she'd loved the name ever since she saw the
> movie "Escape from the Planet of the Apes" when she was a child. In the 1971
> film, one of the sequels to the science fiction classic from 1968, a baby chimp
> is named Milo by his smart simian parents. This is the first child for Tyler,
> 27, and her English rocker husband, 32. Tyler and Langdon married on 25 March
> 2003, in Barbados after a two-year engagement.

How ironic! I always thought Steve looked like an ape.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> From imdb.com:
>
> Liv Tyler Names Son Milo
>
> Lord Of The Rings beauty Liv Tyler has announced the name of her
newborn baby
> boy - Milo William Langdon. Tyler and her husband, Royston
Langdon, welcomed
> Milo in the early hours of Tuesday morning at a New York hospital.
The baby
> weighed in at 8 pounds. Tyler said she'd loved the name ever since
she saw the
> movie "Escape from the Planet of the Apes" when she was a child.
In the 1971
> film, one of the sequels to the science fiction classic from 1968,
a baby chimp
> is named Milo by his smart simian parents. This is the first child
for Tyler,
> 27, and her English rocker husband, 32. Tyler and Langdon married
on 25 March
> 2003, in Barbados after a two-year engagement.

I want to alert everyone of two new folders, one in the Photos
Section and the other in the Files Section. Both are named 'Rory's
Scans'.

These contain scans by group member Rory (Haristas) from his
personal collection.

The folder in the Photos Section
(http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/lst) contains rare stills
including some behind the scenes pics, French lobby cards and a
personally autographed photo of Kim Hunter.

The folder in the Files Section
(http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files) has vintage
Newspaper ads and even the cover of the very first POTA Home Video.

Thanks to Rory for providing these great pics.

Just speak up if you want to see the first 3 pages.

I could only get Neil Foster to do the artwork though, so just
pretend you like the shoddy artwork, OK? ;)

You'll find "teasers" on the POTADG homepage:

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/potadg

Michael

Rory's kidding in Fort Lauderdale, Florida!

Michael

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
>
>
> I bet Kassidy Rae is the seller of this ebay fraud. We all know
about her fraudulent
> questions for the Ape TV show contest.
> Ha! Kidding.
> But I'm kidding in sunny Clearwater Florida.
>
> Mark T

Not sure about my FAVOURITE collectibles, but there's a photo of
some I had in the PHOTOS section, Misc. Pics Folder, "Favourite
Toys".

I had to make my own playstation!

You will notice a mixture of megos and a knock off gorilla figure
(forgot the brand). When these all broke they were replaced with
Astro Apes!

The next photo is me reading the Aussie release of Monkey Planet.

I'm 11 in these, I think (1976).

Michael

As you can see, I sent this on Wednesday.

It is no longer "teasers", it is now the first 3 pages of the new
comic, set in the TV Show environment.

Hope everyone likes it.

Feedback is welcome.

Michael

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

>
>
> Just speak up if you want to see the first 3 pages.
>
> I could only get Neil Foster to do the artwork though, so just
> pretend you like the shoddy artwork, OK? ;)
>
> You'll find "teasers" on the POTADG homepage:
>
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/potadg
>
> Michael

Thank you so much for sharing this Michael. From the first three
pages this new comic looks as good as 'Beware the Beast'.

For the convience of all members, the PDF has been uploaded to the
files section:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/GoingHome_01.pdf

Everyone should take a look and then take a minute to give feedback
to Michael & Neil for their efforts.

Thanks again guys.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

>
>
> As you can see, I sent this on Wednesday.
>
> It is no longer "teasers", it is now the first 3 pages of the new
> comic, set in the TV Show environment.
>
> Hope everyone likes it.
>
> Feedback is welcome.
>
> Michael
>

As you can see, I sent this on Wednesday.

It is no longer "teasers", it is now the first 3 pages of the new
comic, set in the TV Show environment.

Hope everyone likes it.

Feedback is welcome.

Michael

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
>
>
> Just speak up if you want to see the first 3 pages.
>
> I could only get Neil Foster to do the artwork though, so just
> pretend you like the shoddy artwork, OK?  ;)
>
> You'll find "teasers" on the POTADG homepage:
>
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/potadg
>
> Michael








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.html.htmlIn a message dated 12/18/2004 8:27:11 PM Central Standard Time, at_deaths_door@... writes:

Might of already been brought up before, but why in all the houses and buildings that apes make the doors are all weirdly shaped? None of them seem rectangular... Wouldn't that be a bigger pain in the butt to have to fabricate a door all lopsided and round than an easy rectangle?

It's all called set design... Creber liked the look of the carved in stone Troglodyte City, and imitated the weird angles/shapes it has (had)... I guess incorporating odd sized doors went hand in hand with the rest of the designs he came up with... The odd doors are just something that look cool... There's no hidden meaning to it... (Unless you're Eric Greene of course, who would read into it that the odd shaped doors are a metaphor... The lopsided doors represent Taylor's entrance into the "lopsided" world ruled by Apes...)

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I don't have these yet, but I've found a site with a review and some
pix:

http://sideshowcollectors.com/review-POTA.htm

-Ray

There are no stupid questions.

True most of the doors were weirdly shaped. They would all need to
be perfect rectangles if doors were mass produced. The apes didn't
seem to have that type of capability. Doors were probably made one
at a time by ape carpenters who must have gotten creative;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, HollowedOut <at_deaths_door@y...> wrote:
> Might of already been brought up before, but, why in all the
houses and buildings that apes make the doors are all wierdly
shaped? None of them seem rectangular... wouldn't that be a bigger
pain in the butt to have to fabriacate a door all lopsided and
roundy than an easy rectangle?
>
> Just wondering!
>
>

Thanks Ray. And thank you for your latest contribution to the Group
Art Gallery. Everyone should take a look:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheArtGallery.htm
With Glen & Ray in the group, I think we have two of the most
talented 'Ape' artists around.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <ursus3978@a...> wrote:
>
>
> I don't have these yet, but I've found a site with a review and
some
> pix:
>
> http://sideshowcollectors.com/review-POTA.htm
>
> -Ray

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In a message dated 12/19/2004 3:32:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Thanks Ray. And thank you for your latest contribution to the Group
Art Gallery. Everyone should take a look:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheArtGallery.htm
With Glen & Ray in the group, I think we have two of the most
talented 'Ape' artists around.

Yes Ray the art is incredible!

Bruce

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And don't let me forget Neil's excellent work. The first three pages of his and Michael's new comic are available in the Files Section:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/GoingHome_01.pdf

Thanks again guys for sharing this with us. :-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Ray. And thank you for your latest contribution to the
Group
> Art Gallery. Everyone should take a look:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheArtGallery.htm
> With Glen & Ray in the group, I think we have two of the most
> talented 'Ape' artists around.
>
>

This is a very hard question for me because it is so hard to chose.
But I guess I'll always have a special place in my heart for stuff I
got when I was a kid.

The first POTA item I ever owned was the '68 trading cards. A
neighbor of ours worked as a secretary at FOX's office in New York
at the time. She brought us a full box of the cards. We were able to
make up 3 complete sets and sold off the rest. Unfortunately, due to
a flood in our basement all but a handful were ruined about a year
later. (I have since rebuilt an entire original set.) FYI scans of
these cards are available in the Group's Internal Website
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm) in the Art &
Info section.

When Beneath came out, the same neighbor gave us the Pressbook for
Beneath. (I have since collected all the others.) Since there were
so few POTA collectibles available when the films were around, I
wound up cutting the ads out of local newspapers. These were my
POTA "toys" so to speak. I remember trying to learn to draw the
logos from the films from these ads. (And I think anyone viewing the
internal website can still see my obsession with the original ads &
logos continues to this day;-)

After Battle came out, a friend of my parents who managed a movie
theater got me the One Sheets & Lobby Cards for CONQUEST & BATTLE
(And again I have since collected all the others.) Scans of these
are also available in the internal website in the POTA One Sheets
section.

Finally, the summer of 1974 was really a summer of POTA with the GO
APE! festival and the new TV series on the way. What was really
great was discovering Marvel's POTA magazine. I still have a copy of
that first issue I brought over 30 years ago. I was lucky I didn't
see or buy the first issue until August (I think it came our in
June) so I didn't have to wait a full 2 months for issue #2, just a
few weeks. (Again FYI scans of the all the Marvel covers are
available on the website in the Art & Info section.)

Anyway it's hard for me to chose one favorite. But these I guess
would be my top picks.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...> wrote:
>
> I've thought about this for awhile and as hard as it
> is to pick one item from all that I have....I'd have
> to pick out:
>
> -Megos....Especially Zira Cornelius and Zaius...these
> I had as a kid and were the closest likeness to
> Apes....Had a lot of fun with them even tho I had
> no playsets. Cornelius' elastic has disintegrated but
> I have a couple others now and one on card.
>
> -Don Post mask of Cornelius. Had a lot of fun with
> that as well....wearing it to the mall and freaking
> people out!
>
> and my foreign poster collection......always enjoy
> finding those!
>
> Tim
>

.html.htmlIn a message dated 12/19/2004 2:27:56 PM Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

They would all need to be perfect rectangles if doors were mass produced. The apes didn't seem to have that type of capability.

That's not entirely true... I mean the Apes have the capability to mass produce weapons, so they do have knowledge of mass production...

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Guys and gals this looks WONDERFUL!

I just received a comment from a POTADG member who says you may wish
to include a question mark in the heading "HAVE YOU SEEN THESE
MEN". Unless it is rhetoric? The same person says he can't wait to
see the final product, and he hopes none of you gets bogged down
with other projects you commited to, so this gets out as quickly as
possible! Great work!

I am available to proof-read this for you if you need another person
on the project team!

Michael

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, JamesA1102@a... wrote:
> As many POTA fans know, FOX produced and distributed promotional
Heralds for
> each of the five original films. The Heralds were fictional
newspapers that
> theaters distributed to promote each new film.
>
> It was long thought that the last Herald published was for Battle
in 1973.
> Recently a startling discovery was made in the vaults of 20th
Century Fox, a
> promotional Herald for the TV series.
>
>
>
> Originally produced to be distributed by theaters during the GO
APE festival
> in the summer of 1974, this 4 page TV Herald was held back due to
legal
> complications with CBS. Now after 30 years this piece of POTA
history has been
> found and can finally be seen by fans.
>
>
>
> OK I'm lying. FOX never produced a Herald to promote the TV
series.
>
> But they should have.
>
> Luckily, enough of us here in the POTA group thought so too. So
in
> partnership with SIMIAN SCROLLS, the 4 page TV Herald that FOX
should have produced in
> 1974 has now been published.
>
> Many thanks to Mark Rogers, Kassidy Rae, our own Glen Scheetz and
our
> friends at SIMIAN SCROLLS for the amazing job they've done.
>
> Details on how you can get your own copy of the TV Herald will be
announced
> here in the POTA group in the days and weeks ahead, so stay tuned.

My parents just came in from Miami to visit there Grandson for
Christmas and brought me a very special gift. My Mom found a good
amount of old Planet of the Apes Megos and accessories while cleaning
their storage room. There are 2 broken Urkos. One unbroken Urko. A
broken Zaius, a good Galen , The Throne trap which needed to be
cleaned but is complete and a bag full of Cabinets, ladders,
clothes , guns, etc. from when I was 2 yrs old!! I had posted a
picture in the members file Under DrZaiusDavis that my Mom put
together of me getting some of my favorite Apes toys when I was
little. It was so cool to see this stuff again. I have bought all the
Mego figures from ebay over the last couple of years but these were
special because even though most of the figures are incomplete I
remember how important these were to me as a kid. I remember my Dad
buying me a new Urko when one would get broken because he knew I
loved these Damn things! I hope the rest of you have a great Holiday
this year too!

Do they? I could be wrong but, I don't think it was ever established
in the films that the Apes' guns were mass produced.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
>
> That's not entirely true... I mean the Apes have the capability to
mass
> produce weapons, so they do have knowledge of mass production...

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Thanks Michael. Glad you like it. Coming from you this is high praise indeed.

 

 

The 4 page Herald has been printed and a few lucky people already have copies. Details on the first phase of distribution will be announced shortly.

 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

>
>
> Guys and gals this looks WONDERFUL!
>
> I just received a comment from a POTADG member who says you may wish
> to include a question mark in the heading "HAVE YOU SEEN THESE
>

MEN".  Unless it is rhetoric?  The same person says he can't wait to

> see the final product, and he hopes none of you gets bogged down
> with other projects you commited to, so this gets out as quickly as
> possible!  Great work!
>
> I am available to

proof-read this for you if you need another person

> on the project

team!

>
> Michael

<.html

Very cool John. Can your folks adopt me? LOL

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
>
>
> My parents just came in from Miami to visit there Grandson for
> Christmas and brought me a very special gift. My Mom found a good
> amount of old Planet of the Apes Megos and accessories while
cleaning
> their storage room. There are 2 broken Urkos. One unbroken Urko. A
> broken Zaius, a good Galen , The Throne trap which needed to be
> cleaned but is complete and a bag full of Cabinets, ladders,
> clothes , guns, etc. from when I was 2 yrs old!! I had posted a
> picture in the members file Under DrZaiusDavis that my Mom put
> together of me getting some of my favorite Apes toys when I was
> little. It was so cool to see this stuff again. I have bought all
the
> Mego figures from ebay over the last couple of years but these
were
> special because even though most of the figures are incomplete I
> remember how important these were to me as a kid. I remember my
Dad
> buying me a new Urko when one would get broken because he knew I
> loved these Damn things! I hope the rest of you have a great
Holiday
> this year too!

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

The announcement of this did not get much of a response as yet and
I am hoping people here can chime in with feedback and comments that
I can pass on; or alternatively you can go to the POTA group and
give them direct feedback there.

I think this mock-up looks great... I'll be looking forward to buying one when it's available... Out of curiousity, since it's being (partially) handled by the same people that put together Simian Scrolls, will this too be a charitable effort?<.html <.html

Thanks Cougar. That's not a mock-up but a scan of the front cover
reduced in size (which is why it's a bit blurry). The Herald will
not be for sale so to speak. There is a distribution plan in place,
the first phase of which will be annouced shortly.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
>
> I think this mock-up looks great... I'll be looking forward to
buying one
> when it's available... Out of curiousity, since it's being
(partially) handled by
> the same people that put together Simian Scrolls, will this too be
a
> charitable effort?

I am honored to be among the first to see the new TV Herald. Cheers to Glen, Dave
Ballard, Mark
Rogers, Kassidy Rae and James for putting together such a well written journal of the faces
and places in and around Central City. The layout and format look very professional. The
location and character references are well executed into the articles and parodies. This is
the perfect direction for the series to take.
Talk about favorite collectibles, this is definitely one of mine. I look forward to another
issue and have many ideas to contribute (Kassidy Rae, email me, I need your input on a
couple of things).

Thanks,

Mark T

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:

> Out of curiousity, since it's being (partially) handled by
> the same people that put together Simian Scrolls, will this too be a
> charitable effort?

Hi Cougar,
I'm glad you like the look of it. To answer your question, no, this isn't a charity
driven project. Simian Scrolls saw the fine work others were doing to help
celebrate the TV show anniversary and asked if the UK Apezine could
somehow be involved. The Herald is the result.

Dave B

POTA was the inspiration of a generation of make up artist.
Do anybody in the forum try mask or prothetics?

Can we share pics?

Ape rule in Spain too.

JR

Calling Helen!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "joseramonruizdiez"
<joseramonruizdiez@y...> wrote:

>
>
> POTA was the inspiration of a generation of make up artist.
> Do anybody in the forum try mask or prothetics?
>
> Can we share pics?
>
> Ape rule in Spain too.
>
> JR

The contest is now over. No more entries for week 14 will be
accepted. All that is left now is to announce the final week and
Grand Prize winners.

Well like Babe Ruth hitting a home run at his last at bat or Reggie
Jackson knocking 3 out of the park in the last game of the World
Series, Scott George is both the Weekly and Grand Prize winner.

Scott jumped out to an early lead in the contest and no one was ever
able to catch him. While he only won twice in the weekly rounds, he
built an impressive overall lead. His final score was 62 out of 70
total questions. Great job Scott!

For his efforts Scott has won the Archive trading card set & a copy
of Ape Chronicles (this week's prize) and the Grand Prize of a copy
of the Return DVDs and the 1974 Fall Preview TV Guide.

Special mention should also be made to Mark/rkid67@y... who racked
up an impressive 5 Weekly wins.

This contest has been a four month odyssey for some of us. Planning
started in August a few weeks prior to the start of the contest and
there are many people to thank for making it all possible.

First, I'd like to thank Terry Hoknes for providing the copies of
Ape Chronicles we've been giving out with the Weekly prizes as well
as promoting the contest on his site.

Thanks to Glen Sheetz for helping write the questions, pick the
clips and acting as a judge.

Special thanks to Kassidy Rae for hosting the contest on her site so
we could open it up to more than just POTA group members. Kassidy
also picked most of the clips as well as helping in writing the
questions and acting as a judge.

Finally, we'd like to thank all of you who entered and participated
in the contest. As a special thank you, and as a consolation prize,
everyone who entered will receive an advance copy of the TV Herald
we've been talking about. I'll be emailing everyone to get there
mailing addresses shortly. This is fitting since in many ways the TV
Herald was born out from the contest. (This is phase 1 of the
distribution schedule for the Herald. Phase 2 will be announced in
January.)

The final standings for the Grand Prize as well as the questions
and answers from all weeks are available in the Database
section.
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database

Thanks again to everyone involved. We hope you enjoyed the contest
as much as we did.

The contest is now over. No more entries for week 14 will be
accepted. All that is left now is to announce the final week and
Grand Prize winners.

Well like Babe Ruth hitting a home run at his last at bat or Reggie
Jackson knocking 3 out of the park in the last game of the World
Series, Scott George is both the Weekly and Grand Prize winner.

Scott jumped out to an early lead in the contest and no one was ever
able to catch him. While he only won twice in the weekly rounds, he
built an impressive overall lead. His final score was 62 out of 70
total questions. Great job Scott!

For his efforts Scott has won the Archive trading card set & a copy
of Ape Chronicles (this week's prize) and the Grand Prize of a copy
of the Return DVDs and the 1974 Fall Preview TV Guide.

Special mention should also be made to Mark/rkid67@y... who racked
up an impressive 5 Weekly wins.

This contest has been a four month odyssey for some of us. Planning
started in August a few weeks prior to the start of the contest and
there are many people to thank for making it all possible.

First, I'd like to thank Terry Hoknes for providing the copies of
Ape Chronicles we've been giving out with the Weekly prizes as well
as promoting the contest on his site.

Thanks to Glen Sheetz for helping write the questions, pick the
clips and acting as a judge. 

Special thanks to Kassidy Rae for hosting the contest on her site so
we could open it up to more than just POTA group members. Kassidy
also picked most of the clips as well as helping in writing the
questions and acting as a judge.

Finally, we'd like to thank all of you who entered and participated
in the contest. As a special thank you, and as a consolation prize,
everyone who entered will receive an advance copy of the TV Herald
we've been talking about. I'll be emailing everyone to get there
mailing addresses shortly. This is fitting since in many ways the TV
Herald was born out from the contest. (This is phase 1 of the
distribution schedule for the Herald. Phase 2 will be announced in
January.)

The final standings for the Grand Prize as well as the questions
and answers from all weeks are available in the Database
section.
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database

Thanks again to everyone involved. We hope you enjoyed the contest
as much as we did.








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Hey second is nothing to sneeze at.

Look at Buzz Aldrin, second man to walk on the moon. I think he's better known and recognized now than Neil Armstrong. And when they did 'Toy Story', they didn't name the character Neil Lightyear. :-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, HollowedOut <at_deaths_door@y...> wrote:
> 2nd place baby YEA!!! WHOOOO HOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I just want to
thank everyone involved.... especialy the mutant brain I came know
as Scott... you are a mutant and you know it! :) Thanks again from
the 2nd place winner or if you watch (or are in) the NAVY SEALS...
I'm FIRST PLACE LOSER!!! LOL!!!!
>
> 2nd ROCKS!!! 57 RIGHT!!! John was riding my butt the entire
contest too!!! John rocks too!!!
>
> SCOTT ROCKS TOO!! Not as much as second... but even so, he's got a
mutant brain up there!!!
>
> Thanks again!!!
>
> -Chris (I knew I could do it!)
>
>

Jose,

I saw a couple of your masks while browsing the apemania web site.
Those really look great! I like how you're able to make the mouth
move with just a mask. And the discolored gorilla mask - is there a
story behind that? Costumes look like they fit right in with pota.
Really great work! I'd like to see more.

I also noticed a huge model of Icarus (about Mego figure scale?).
Did you make that, too?

John O.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "joseramonruizdiez"
<joseramonruizdiez@y...> wrote:

>
>
> POTA was the inspiration of a generation of make up artist.
> Do anybody in the forum try mask or prothetics?
>
> Can we share pics?
>
> Ape rule in Spain too.
>
> JR

Hi JR,

With a lot of help and advice from Brian Penikas at
www.Apemania.com , our family, along with a group of local children
and some curious neighbors, put together a number of costumes and
masks for a local parade. I would love to share pictures of our
meager efforts. Is this what you are looking for? Contact me
privately and I will send along some pix.

--Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
>
> Calling Helen!
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "joseramonruizdiez"
> <joseramonruizdiez@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > POTA was the inspiration of a generation of make up artist.
> > Do anybody in the forum try mask or prothetics?
> >
> > Can we share pics?
> >
> > Ape rule in Spain too.
> >
> > JR

Ok, so I'm not the grand winner, but I am very thankful for all the prizes I have won. I
want to thank everybody involved for making this a fun contest.
And by the way, fragmentation cosmoline packs are not bombs. Cosmoline is the stuff
they are packed in so they won't rust or corrode over long-term storage.

Again, many thanks!

Mark

I've seen those pix, Jose! I didn't get that you were the same
guy! Glad to meet another Apes family!!

--Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "John O." <jspy6688@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Jose,
>
> I saw a couple of your masks while browsing the apemania web
site.
> Those really look great! I like how you're able to make the mouth
> move with just a mask. And the discolored gorilla mask - is there
a
> story behind that? Costumes look like they fit right in with
pota.
> Really great work! I'd like to see more.
>
> I also noticed a huge model of Icarus (about Mego figure scale?).
> Did you make that, too?
>
> John O.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "joseramonruizdiez"
> <joseramonruizdiez@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > POTA was the inspiration of a generation of make up artist.
> > Do anybody in the forum try mask or prothetics?
> >
> > Can we share pics?
> >
> > Ape rule in Spain too.
> >
> > JR

I had to look that up on the internet so that I would know if I
understood what they were saying or not. How in the world would I
know what cosmoline is? And cosmoline packed? I thought it had
something to do with pacts (agreements). Thanks for the insight. I
had no clue!! (Maybe if I had spelled it right "-ine".)

And dittos about the prizes! Thank you.

The contest was a lot of fun, too. A real treat.

--Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Ok, so I'm not the grand winner, but I am very thankful for all
the prizes I have won. I
> want to thank everybody involved for making this a fun contest.
> And by the way, fragmentation cosmoline packs are not bombs.
Cosmoline is the stuff
> they are packed in so they won't rust or corrode over long-term
storage.
>
> Again, many thanks!
>
> Mark

Hey second is nothing to sneeze at.

Look at Buzz Aldrin, second man to walk on the moon. I think he's better known and recognized now than Neil Armstrong. And when they did 'Toy Story', they didn't name the character Neil Lightyear. :-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, HollowedOut <at_deaths_door@y...> wrote:
> 2nd place baby YEA!!! WHOOOO HOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I just want to
thank everyone involved.... especialy the mutant brain I came know
as Scott... you are a mutant and you know it! :)  Thanks again from
the 2nd place winner or if you watch (or are in) the NAVY SEALS...
I'm FIRST PLACE LOSER!!! LOL!!!!
> 
> 2nd ROCKS!!! 57 RIGHT!!! John was riding my butt the entire
contest too!!! John rocks too!!!
> 
> SCOTT ROCKS TOO!! Not as much as second... but even so, he's got a
mutant brain up there!!!
> 
> Thanks again!!!
> 
> -Chris (I knew I could do it!)
> 
> 









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I know that Chris. I'm just playing with you. BTW your 'middle
names' in your entries were always a welcome laugh.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, HollowedOut <at_deaths_door@y...> wrote:
> Hey no way!! I had a great time in playing! Please don't think
this is was a blast for coming in second, I'd play again in a
second!!!
>
> -Chris
>

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In a message dated 12/20/2004 1:05:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

How in the world would I
know what cosmoline is

I know what cosmoline is.

<.html

Somehow, I would have guessed you would, LT.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 12/20/2004 1:05:30 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
> How in the world would I
> know what cosmoline is
>
>
> I know what cosmoline is.

Attachments :

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In a message dated 12/20/2004 7:07:20 A.M. Central Standard Time, joseramonruizdiez@... writes:

Do anybody in the forum try mask or prothetics?

Can we share pics?

 

I tried my hand at sculpting, but Brian's stuff is from

the original molds, so I made some molds from them.

The large chimp is mine and the others are from his.

 

<.html

All of a sudden --- there is was!
That will be how it will come...
Since I have been violated by every vile human living, I will not
announce the release of this book... It will just be there...
Perhaps I will create my own web-site... Care to collect a few
viruses??? It seems as if no one else cares how they screw up someone
elses p.c. so I think I might play with THEM NOW!!!
READY...???
I know MY people and I trust them, but do they know YOU? The
backdoor creeper whom I caught and know just where you are?
Prepare to die, scum...
I'm locating you right now...
And, just like General Thade, in the words of Krull; "He will not
stop..."
Go worm, GO...!

Did you / would you please post these in the photos section? I
don't receive attachments from the site and would like to see them.

Thanks.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 12/20/2004 7:07:20 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> joseramonruizdiez@y... writes:
>
> Do anybody in the forum try mask or prothetics?
>
> Can we share pics?
>
>
>
> I tried my hand at sculpting, but Brian's stuff is from
> the original molds, so I made some molds from them.
> The large chimp is mine and the others are from his.

Ummm....did I miss something here?

What on earth is this all about, please?

Michael


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "simlvr4beloved" <phallensthade@m...>
wrote:

>
>
> All of a sudden --- there is was!
> That will be how it will come...
> Since I have been violated by every vile human living, I will

not

> announce the release of this book... It will just be there...
> Perhaps I will create my own web-site... Care to collect a few
> viruses??? It seems as if no one else cares how they screw up

someone

> elses p.c. so I think I might play with THEM NOW!!!
> READY...???
> I know MY people and I trust them, but do they know YOU? The
> backdoor creeper whom I caught and know just where you are?
> Prepare to die, scum...
> I'm locating you right now...
> And, just like General Thade, in the words of Krull; "He will

not

> stop..."
> Go worm, GO...!

For the thousands of Apeslaywer fans out there, he gets a small
mention in a review of all things War of the Worlds at
http://www.comicworldnews.com Follow the link for 'Striker 3D lands
War of the Worlds Comics Deal'.Greg's scans for the UK Weekly will
soon be up to these issues,so you can get prepared! John, Scrolls.

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!

saludos desde México

Helen, how about uploading some of yours? I'm sure others would like
to see them, too.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Did you / would you please post these in the photos section? I
> don't receive attachments from the site and would like to see them.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 12/20/2004 7:07:20 A.M. Central Standard
Time,
> > joseramonruizdiez@y... writes:
> >
> > Do anybody in the forum try mask or prothetics?
> >
> > Can we share pics?
> >
> >
> >
> > I tried my hand at sculpting, but Brian's stuff is from
> > the original molds, so I made some molds from them.
> > The large chimp is mine and the others are from his.

Nice article on War of the Worlds !!
http://www.comicworldnews.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?column=crumpets&page=2

>
> For the thousands of Apeslaywer fans out there, he gets a small
> mention in a review of all things War of the Worlds at
> http://www.comicworldnews.com Follow the link for 'Striker 3D lands
> War of the Worlds Comics Deal'.Greg's scans for the UK Weekly will
> soon be up to these issues,so you can get prepared! John, Scrolls.

FYI There are scans of some the Apeslayer comics in the Files
Section: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Apeslayer/
for anyone that's interested.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes <terryhoknes@s...> wrote:
>
> Nice article on War of the Worlds !!
> http://www.comicworldnews.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?
column=crumpets&page=2
>

Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com

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mention in a review of all things War of the Worlds at
http://www.comicworldnews.com. Follow the link for 'Striker 3D lands
War of the Worlds Comics Deal'.Greg's scans for the UK Weekly will
soon be up to these issues,so you can get prepared! John, Scrolls.








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go vegetarian!

I've put some in member photos in a file called Sand Hill School
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/lst?.dir=/Member+Photos/San
d+Hill+School+Goes+Apes&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%
3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/

--Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "John O." <jspy6688@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Helen, how about uploading some of yours? I'm sure others would
like
> to see them, too.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Did you / would you please post these in the photos section? I
> > don't receive attachments from the site and would like to see
them.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> > >
> > > In a message dated 12/20/2004 7:07:20 A.M. Central Standard
> Time,
> > > joseramonruizdiez@y... writes:
> > >
> > > Do anybody in the forum try mask or prothetics?
> > >
> > > Can we share pics?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I tried my hand at sculpting, but Brian's stuff is from
> > > the original molds, so I made some molds from them.
> > > The large chimp is mine and the others are from his.

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This festive time of year makes me wonder what types of holidays or
festivities might the ape societies have marked? Anyone care to
speculate, either from the comics, series, or old and new movies?

One thing we see the apes celebrating are weddings. We know that
Cornelius and Zira got married, although we didn't see the nuptials.
The Adventure Comics series had an ape wedding it. Who was it that
got married?

What other events did (or might) ape societies have marked?

Menluth.

Death.

There was a funeral for the dead.

Michael

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Menluth" <menluth@y...> wrote:
>
>
> This festive time of year makes me wonder what types of holidays
or
> festivities might the ape societies have marked? Anyone care to
> speculate, either from the comics, series, or old and new movies?
>
> One thing we see the apes celebrating are weddings. We know that
> Cornelius and Zira got married, although we didn't see the
nuptials.
> The Adventure Comics series had an ape wedding it. Who was it that
> got married?
>
> What other events did (or might) ape societies have marked?
>
> Menluth.

.html.htmlIn a message dated 12/21/2004 12:09:35 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

What on earth is this all about, please?

Being that it involves pota2001, it is all about a lot of hype and no substance...

<.html <.html

Well Cornelius did say the day Aldo said 'No' was commemorated by
all Apes. So I would guess that's a holiday.
Maybe the Lawgiver's and Caesar's birthday too.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Menluth" <menluth@y...> wrote:
>
>
> This festive time of year makes me wonder what types of holidays
or
> festivities might the ape societies have marked? Anyone care to
> speculate, either from the comics, series, or old and new movies?
>
> One thing we see the apes celebrating are weddings. We know that
> Cornelius and Zira got married, although we didn't see the
nuptials.
> The Adventure Comics series had an ape wedding it. Who was it that
> got married?
>
> What other events did (or might) ape societies have marked?
>
> Menluth.

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What other events did (or might) ape societies have marked?

The day that the original Aldo said "No"...

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Just wanted to fix up that link. Thanks for sharing these with us
Helen.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
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>
> I've put some in member photos in a file called Sand Hill School
>
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/lst?.dir=/Member+Photos/Sand+Hill+School+Goes+Apes&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/
>
> --Helen
>
>
>

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In a message dated 12/21/2004 10:10:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Well Cornelius did say the day Aldo said 'No' was commemorated by
all Apes. So I would guess that's a holiday.
Maybe the Lawgiver's and Caesar's birthday too.

 

How could all Apes commemorate it if it was The Terrible Secret?

No one was supposed to know that the humans used to be masters.

I think it was commemorated by a couple of top Orangutans.

 

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How could all Apes commemorate it if it was The Terrible Secret?
No one was supposed to know that the humans used to be masters.
I think it was commemorated by a couple of top Orangutans.

I totally agree with you on this! It never made sense to me that the Apes were kept from knowing Humanity once ruled over them, and yet, they knew of the Ape that broke the silence and spoke in revolt... I know it (Aldo's speaking) really isn't a "holiday", but the Aldo thing was the first thing that popped into my head when I seen the question... I guess I'd rather have the Aldo theory going on, rather than having someone try to say they have Christmas on the Planet of the Apes...<.html <.html

The line of dialogue from the script goes as follows:

CORNELIUS
At first they barked their refusal.
And then, on a historic day comemorated
by my species and fully documented in
the secret scrolls, there came an Ape
called Aldo, who didn't bark. He
articulated. He spoke a word which
had been spoken to him, time without
number, by Humans. He said 'No'.

The line itself has an inherent contradiction. How could the event
be fully commemorated by the Apes if it is documented in 'Secret
Scrolls'. If everyone knows about it then the scroll can't be a
secret. In the film the line is changed to the Sacred Scrolls. I
guess they noticed the contradiction too.

However, the whole thing can be resolved by looking at the facts
presented and making some assumptions.

First, we know from the first film that the Ape populace knows
nothing about man once ruling over the earth. This is know only to
higher ups like Dr. Zaius who keep it a well guarded secret.

Second, There are history scrolls kept secret from the masses.
Cornelius states that in ESCAPE. (This is totally consistant with
the first point.) In these scrolls the knowledge of man's
civilization and the story of Aldo are documented.

Third, at some point between the end of PLANET and the beginning of
ESCAPE, Cornelius, and possibly Zira too, were given access to these
secret history scrolls. (This is not inconsistant with either of the
first two points.)

Fourth, the Apes commemorated the date Aldo said no. Now this is
inconsistant with the earlier points.

Now here's where you have to make an assumption. The Ape rulers
while wanting to keep the secret yet still commemorate the day built
a mythology around Aldo that was presented to the masses. Like an
Adam figure, he's the first ape to speak. What he said and whom he
said it to would be kept secret but he would still be seen
historically as the first Ape.

Well that's my take on it. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. If
anyone else has another theory, please present it. I'd love to hear
it.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
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> I totally agree with you on this! It never made sense to me that
the Apes
> were kept from knowing Humanity once ruled over them, and yet,
they knew of the
> Ape that broke the silence and spoke in revolt... I know it
(Aldo's speaking)
> really isn't a "holiday", but the Aldo thing was the first thing
that popped
> into my head when I seen the question... I guess I'd rather have
the Aldo theory
> going on, rather than having someone try to say they have
Christmas on the
> Planet of the Apes...

I'd like to thank Kass and everybody involved with the TV Series
project.It was a real joy to watch the series each week knowing that
others were as well.I was actually looking forward to next week's
episode and I was a little kid again.The comments and feedback on the
F+F Group have increased my understanding of the series tremendously
and it's been one of the bog highlights of 2004----thanks everyone!
John, Scrolls.

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In a message dated 12/22/2004 12:36:13 A.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

... I know it (Aldo's speaking) really isn't a "holiday", but the Aldo thing was the first thing that popped into my head when I seen the question...

It's probably a holiday for the SSA,

*Seecret Society of Apes) meaning

a majority percentage of the council.

They'd need a majority for the votes.

That way they can ensure that the

apes culture doesn't advance too

far too fast.  We've probably got

something similar or I'd have the

flying car I've been promised since

I was born by now. For more info

check out it's super slow progress

at  Moller International                          

 

 

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In a message dated 12/22/2004 1:23:25 A.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

The line itself has an inherent contradiction. How could the event
be fully commemorated by the Apes if it is documented in 'Secret
Scrolls'.

 

Maybe it's like Christmas!  Jesus was really born

in mid September.  It's the pagan holiday the was

calibrated the end of December. They were merged

in order to make Christianity more acceptable and

convert more people.  Many of the traditions were

not originally Christian at all but were incorporated

into the holiday over time, their origins forgotten.

 

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Hey, that's pretty cool, you even have the statue of liberty. I
take it there wasn't a human yelling "damn you all to hell"?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
>
> I've put some in member photos in a file called Sand Hill School

Do we think the 5 movies are really in a circular timeline?
i would believe movies #3 4 5 are affected by the knowledge by #1 and #2
but because of this a new timeline starts and therefore #1 and #2 will never
take place after #5 the way we originally saw them

> The line of dialogue from the script goes as follows:
>
> CORNELIUS
> At first they barked their refusal.
> And then, on a historic day comemorated
> by my species and fully documented in
> the secret scrolls, there came an Ape
> called Aldo, who didn't bark. He
> articulated. He spoke a word which
> had been spoken to him, time without
> number, by Humans. He said 'No'.
>
> The line itself has an inherent contradiction. How could the event
> be fully commemorated by the Apes if it is documented in 'Secret
> Scrolls'. If everyone knows about it then the scroll can't be a
> secret. In the film the line is changed to the Sacred Scrolls. I
> guess they noticed the contradiction too.
>
> However, the whole thing can be resolved by looking at the facts
> presented and making some assumptions.
>
> First, we know from the first film that the Ape populace knows
> nothing about man once ruling over the earth. This is know only to
> higher ups like Dr. Zaius who keep it a well guarded secret.
>
> Second, There are history scrolls kept secret from the masses.
> Cornelius states that in ESCAPE. (This is totally consistant with
> the first point.) In these scrolls the knowledge of man's
> civilization and the story of Aldo are documented.
>
> Third, at some point between the end of PLANET and the beginning of
> ESCAPE, Cornelius, and possibly Zira too, were given access to these
> secret history scrolls. (This is not inconsistant with either of the
> first two points.)
>
> Fourth, the Apes commemorated the date Aldo said no. Now this is
> inconsistant with the earlier points.
>
> Now here's where you have to make an assumption. The Ape rulers
> while wanting to keep the secret yet still commemorate the day built
> a mythology around Aldo that was presented to the masses. Like an
> Adam figure, he's the first ape to speak. What he said and whom he
> said it to would be kept secret but he would still be seen
> historically as the first Ape.
>
> Well that's my take on it. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. If
> anyone else has another theory, please present it. I'd love to hear
> it.
>

Our Taylor was actually pretty dramatic -- pounding the sand around
the statue -- but he kept it a little low key so as not to scare the
kiddos.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "John O." <jspy6688@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Hey, that's pretty cool, you even have the statue of liberty. I
> take it there wasn't a human yelling "damn you all to hell"?
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > I've put some in member photos in a file called Sand Hill School

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Do we think the 5 movies are really in a circular timeline?

I know I don't believe it's a circle... There are/were two seperate timelines, as you seem to be in favor of as well...

I would believe movies # 3,# 4 and # 5 are affected by the knowledge of # 1and # 2 but because of this a new timeline starts and therefore # 1 and # 2 will never
take place after # 5 the way we originally saw them.

PLANET and BENEATH are there own timeline, the "original timeline"... Whereas ESCAPE starts the new timeline, and the events of CONQUEST and BATTLE are a part of the second timeline... There may be some similarities between the two timelines (such as Apes having been slaves of Man, and their winning freedom thru revolution), but no, they will not play out the same way twice... <.html <.html

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In a message dated 12/22/2004 8:23:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, terryhoknes@... writes:

Do we think the 5 movies are really in a circular timeline?

 

Let's not start that again.

 

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