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Group: pota Message: 32030 From: Mark Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: French Covers
Group: pota Message: 32031 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] French Covers
Group: pota Message: 32032 From: Dave B Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: French Covers
Group: pota Message: 32033 From: Mark Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: French Covers
Group: pota Message: 32034 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: French Covers
Group: pota Message: 32035 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: French Covers
Group: pota Message: 32036 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: French Covers
Group: pota Message: 32037 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: PotA Revisited book for $1.99
Group: pota Message: 32038 From: ariel_hunter28 Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32039 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32040 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32041 From: Mark Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32042 From: ariel_hunter28 Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: New Member
Group: pota Message: 32043 From: ariel_hunter28 Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32044 From: ariel_hunter28 Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32045 From: ariel_hunter28 Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Picture of me!
Group: pota Message: 32046 From: James Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Re: New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32047 From: Matt Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Sideshow Slave Brent Exclusive Figure
Group: pota Message: 32048 From: ariel_hunter28 Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Re: New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32049 From: ron kenner Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] PotA Revisited book for $1.99
Group: pota Message: 32050 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] PotA Revisited book for $1.99
Group: pota Message: 32051 From: ariel_hunter28 Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Re: New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32052 From: Mark Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Re: New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32053 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Marvel UK issue 28
Group: pota Message: 32054 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32055 From: ron kenner Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] PotA Revisited book for $1.99
Group: pota Message: 32056 From: Ariel Hunter Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32057 From: Ariel Hunter Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32058 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32059 From: ariel_hunter28 Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32060 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Re: New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32061 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Ron Harper Lands
Group: pota Message: 32062 From: Ariel Hunter Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32063 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32064 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32065 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32066 From: Dave B Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: Ron Harper Lands
Group: pota Message: 32067 From: Dave B Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Homepage Pic
Group: pota Message: 32068 From: James Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: Homepage Pic
Group: pota Message: 32069 From: James Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: Ron Harper Lands
Group: pota Message: 32070 From: Mark Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: Homepage Pic
Group: pota Message: 32071 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Homepage Pic
Group: pota Message: 32072 From: shanter2002 Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: Ron Harper Lands
Group: pota Message: 32073 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Homepage Pic
Group: pota Message: 32074 From: Dave B Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Homepage Pic
Group: pota Message: 32075 From: Mark Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Homepage Pic
Group: pota Message: 32076 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Homepage Pic
Group: pota Message: 32077 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ron Harper Lands
Group: pota Message: 32078 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: Ron Harper Lands
Group: pota Message: 32079 From: Dario Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32080 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Homepage Pic
Group: pota Message: 32081 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32082 From: Ariel Hunter Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32083 From: Ariel Hunter Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32084 From: Ariel Hunter Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32085 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32086 From: James Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Homepage Pic
Group: pota Message: 32087 From: James Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32088 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ron Harper Lands
Group: pota Message: 32089 From: Ariel Hunter Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32090 From: Ariel Hunter Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32091 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32092 From: James Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32093 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32094 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32095 From: shanter2002 Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ron Harper Lands
Group: pota Message: 32096 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ron Harper Lands
Group: pota Message: 32097 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: OT: "Land of the Lost": the Movie
Group: pota Message: 32098 From: Mark Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ron Harper Lands
Group: pota Message: 32099 From: shanter2002 Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ron Harper Lands
Group: pota Message: 32100 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ron Harper Lands
Group: pota Message: 32101 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ron Harper Lands
Group: pota Message: 32102 From: Kassidy Rae Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Charlie in the Lost Factory
Group: pota Message: 32103 From: Mark Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Thoughtful sci-fi films
Group: pota Message: 32104 From: James Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: Thoughtful sci-fi films
Group: pota Message: 32105 From: Mark Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: Thoughtful sci-fi films
Group: pota Message: 32106 From: Mark Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: Thoughtful sci-fi films
Group: pota Message: 32107 From: James Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 32108 From: Dave B Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: Thoughtful sci-fi films
Group: pota Message: 32109 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Thoughtful sci-fi films
Group: pota Message: 32110 From: geekorama2005 Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: With all the discussion of best Sci-Fi movies going on...
Group: pota Message: 32111 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: New Member!
Group: pota Message: 32112 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: Charlie in the Lost Factory
Group: pota Message: 32113 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ron Harper Lands
Group: pota Message: 32114 From: Ray Date: 4/30/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Thoughtful sci-fi films
Group: pota Message: 32115 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 4/30/2005
Subject: Milo update
Group: pota Message: 32116 From: drhasslein Date: 5/1/2005
Subject: "Kill Ourselves"
Group: pota Message: 32117 From: shanter2002 Date: 5/1/2005
Subject: Three name brats
Group: pota Message: 32118 From: shanter2002 Date: 5/1/2005
Subject: Re: Milo update
Group: pota Message: 32119 From: Mark Date: 5/1/2005
Subject: Re: Three name brats
Group: pota Message: 32120 From: Mark Date: 5/1/2005
Subject: Re: "Kill Ourselves"
Group: pota Message: 32121 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 5/1/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] "Kill Ourselves"
Group: pota Message: 32122 From: ron kenner Date: 5/1/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Milo update
Group: pota Message: 32123 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 5/1/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] "Kill Ourselves"
Group: pota Message: 32124 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 5/1/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Three name brats
Group: pota Message: 32125 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/1/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Milo update
Group: pota Message: 32126 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/1/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Milo update
Group: pota Message: 32127 From: drhasslein Date: 5/2/2005
Subject: Re: "Kill Ourselves"
Group: pota Message: 32128 From: Dave B Date: 5/2/2005
Subject: Enhancements
Group: pota Message: 32129 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/2/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enhancements



Group: pota Message: 32030 From: Mark Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: French Covers
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Awesome! They look great without all the previous text on the covers. I do restoration
work myself from time to time, so I'm curious if Photoshop was used to do this.

Mark
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Group: pota Message: 32031 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] French Covers
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-Agreed...they do look awesome!

Tim

-- Mark <rkid67@...> wrote:

>
>
> Awesome! They look great without all the previous
> text on the covers. I do restoration
> work myself from time to time, so I'm curious if
> Photoshop was used to do this.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Group: pota Message: 32032 From: Dave B Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: French Covers
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Awesome! They look great without all the previous text on the
covers. I do restoration
> work myself from time to time, so I'm curious if Photoshop was
used to do this.
>
> Mark

Hi Mark,

Yep, Photoshop is the one. So what type of stuff have you
restored - anything Apes?

Dave
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Group: pota Message: 32033 From: Mark Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: French Covers
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I have restored old slides, photos, book jackets but never any Apes stuff. I have removed
artifacts and signatures from autographed Apes photos though. Now and then I'll come
across a great photo but it will have an autograph on it so I just remove it. I also do some color matching and correcting for printed work.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:

Yep, Photoshop is the one. So what type of stuff have you
restored - anything Apes?
Dave
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Group: pota Message: 32034 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: French Covers
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Just FYI, another French cover (issue 12) is available on my site now.
James will be adding it to the internal site later this week. Thanks,
Dave!

http://www.goatley.com/pota/

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 32035 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: French Covers
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When I click on No. 12 in your comics section...it
opens no.11 again!

:(

Tim

--- Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

>
> Just FYI, another French cover (issue 12) is
> available on my site now.
> James will be adding it to the internal site later
> this week. Thanks,
> Dave!
>
> http://www.goatley.com/pota/
>
> Hunter
>
>
>
>


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Group: pota Message: 32036 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: French Covers
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> When I click on No. 12 in your comics section...it
> opens no.11 again!

Ooops. Sorry about that. I've fixed it.

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 32037 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: PotA Revisited book for $1.99
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Saw this today; if you don't have this yet, now's your chance!

Hunter
--------------------------------------------------
Book Details

Title: Planet of the Apes Revisited

Overview: Planet of the Apes Revisited is the colorful, factual
account of the science fiction milestone, Planet of the Apes, and the
series of movies and TV shows it inspired. Through exclusive
interviews with cast and crew and access to the personal archives of
Arthur P. Jacobs, producer and originator of the original film and all
its spin-offs, Joe Russo and Larry Landsman present a fascinating,
in-depth look at the entire Apes canon, featuring: rare,
behind-the-scenes photographs; details on special effects and make-up;
story and screenplay developments; on-the-set changes and
post-production edits; behind-the-scenes anecdotes; a chapter on Tim
Burton's "reimagining" of the classic Planet of the Apes.

List Price: $19.95
Sale Price: $1.99
You Save : $17.96

To view more information about this book go to:
http://www.bookcloseouts.com/default.asp?R=0312252390B
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Group: pota Message: 32038 From: ariel_hunter28 Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: New Member!
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Hello new friends!

My name is Ariel. No, I wasn't named after the mermaid! LOL I am a
writer and love pota. I am looking forward to chatting on the subject.

Ariel
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Group: pota Message: 32039 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
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Hello Ariel. Welcome to the group
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Group: pota Message: 32040 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
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WElcome Ariel!!!
Tim

--- PofTAfan@... wrote:

> Hello Ariel. Welcome to the group
>


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Group: pota Message: 32041 From: Mark Date: 4/25/2005
Subject: Re: New Member!
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Then were you named after a moon of Uranus? Ok, I'm a wiseguy but that is the name of
one of the moons. Anyway, welcome to this group. I'm a writer too, or at least I think I
am.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ariel_hunter28" <ariel_hunter28@y...> wrote:

My name is Ariel. No, I wasn't named after the mermaid!
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Group: pota Message: 32042 From: ariel_hunter28 Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: New Member
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Hi everyone! I have been reading the messages so I can catch up. The
artwork is wonderful!

I am a big fan of pota, still my favorite is the first. I look forward
to chatting with everyone!

A
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Group: pota Message: 32043 From: ariel_hunter28 Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
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Hi Tim! Thanks for the welcome. I am amazed on how much this group
knows about pota and I think I have a lot of catching up to do. LOL So
be patient with me! A

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...> wrote:
>
> WElcome Ariel!!!
> Tim
>
> --- PofTAfan@a... wrote:
>
> > Hello Ariel. Welcome to the group
> >
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 32044 From: ariel_hunter28 Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
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I'm glad to be here!!!!!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@a... wrote:
> Hello Ariel. Welcome to the group
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Group: pota Message: 32045 From: ariel_hunter28 Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Picture of me!
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I have added a picture of myself to the photos so you will know who you
are chatting with. A
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Group: pota Message: 32046 From: James Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Re: New Member!
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Welcome Ariel. Tell us more about yourself. Where are you from and
when did you first become a POTA fan?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ariel_hunter28" <ariel_hunter28@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> Hello new friends!
>
> My name is Ariel. No, I wasn't named after the mermaid! LOL I am a
> writer and love pota. I am looking forward to chatting on the
subject.
>
> Ariel
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Group: pota Message: 32047 From: Matt Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Sideshow Slave Brent Exclusive Figure
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I had a feeling this one was on its way:

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=75091

Matt
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Group: pota Message: 32048 From: ariel_hunter28 Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Re: New Member!
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Hi James!

I was raised on pota. My Dad is a fan and passed it onto me. I live
in
LA and I am currently working on an a couple of upcoming TV projects.
I am, however, also working on a novel as well.

How about you? A

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
>
> Welcome Ariel. Tell us more about yourself. Where are you from and
> when did you first become a POTA fan?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ariel_hunter28" <ariel_hunter28@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello new friends!
> >
> > My name is Ariel. No, I wasn't named after the mermaid! LOL I am
a
> > writer and love pota. I am looking forward to chatting on the
> subject.
> >
> > Ariel
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Group: pota Message: 32049 From: ron kenner Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] PotA Revisited book for $1.99
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thanks for link;
but i wonder, is this one of those places that charges a lot for shipping and "handling"?

Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

Saw this today; if you don't have this yet, now's your chance!

Hunter
--------------------------------------------------
Book Details

Title: Planet of the Apes Revisited

Overview: Planet of the Apes Revisited is the colorful, factual
account of the science fiction milestone, Planet of the Apes, and the
series of movies and TV shows it inspired. Through exclusive
interviews with cast and crew and access to the personal archives of
Arthur P. Jacobs, producer and originator of the original film and all
its spin-offs, Joe Russo and Larry Landsman present a fascinating,
in-depth look at the entire Apes canon, featuring: rare,
behind-the-scenes photographs; details on special effects and make-up;
story and screenplay developments; on-the-set changes and
post-production edits; behind-the-scenes anecdotes; a chapter on Tim
Burton's "reimagining" of the classic Planet of the Apes.

List Price: $19.95
Sale Price: $1.99
You Save  : $17.96

To view more information about this book go to:
http://www.bookcloseouts.com/default.asp?R=0312252390B





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Group: pota Message: 32050 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] PotA Revisited book for $1.99
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> thanks for link;
> but i wonder, is this one of those places that charges a lot for shipping and "handling"?

I ordered 5 books from them; shipping was $5.45 and handling was $1.00
(with no tax). I thought that was actually pretty cheap for 5 books.

There's also a $5.00 off coupon for those who spend $35.00 or more:

Coupon code: friends
Password: bookcloseouts

I used that on my order....

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 32051 From: ariel_hunter28 Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Re: New Member!
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Why do you only "think" you're a writer??????? A

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Then were you named after a moon of Uranus? Ok, I'm a wiseguy but
that is the name of
> one of the moons. Anyway, welcome to this group. I'm a writer too,
or at least I think I
> am.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ariel_hunter28" <ariel_hunter28@y...>
wrote:
>
> My name is Ariel. No, I wasn't named after the mermaid!
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Group: pota Message: 32052 From: Mark Date: 4/26/2005
Subject: Re: New Member!
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Because I can't finish what I am working on at the moment. I am taking time off from it
because it is doing me in slowly.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ariel_hunter28" <ariel_hunter28@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Why do you only "think" you're a writer??????? A
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Group: pota Message: 32053 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Marvel UK issue 28
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Marvel UK issue 28 is now available on Hunter's site. Once again we have an installment of the Apeslayer! saga. In addition there is an article showing the make-up application process. In this case, it shows Roddy McDowall being made up as Galen for the episode Tomorrow's Tide.
 
 
Greg
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Group: pota Message: 32054 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
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.html Welcome, Ariel! Elaine<.html
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Group: pota Message: 32055 From: ron kenner Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] PotA Revisited book for $1.99
.html
sounds great;
thanks for info;
hope i get paid this friday...
 
is this a good book?


Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

> thanks for link;
> but i wonder, is this one of those places that charges a lot for shipping and "handling"?

I ordered 5 books from them; shipping was $5.45 and handling was $1.00
(with no tax).  I thought that was actually pretty cheap for 5 books.

There's also a $5.00 off coupon for those who spend $35.00 or more:

Coupon code: friends
Password: bookcloseouts

I used that on my order....

Hunter





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Group: pota Message: 32056 From: Ariel Hunter Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: New Member!
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I have moments like that and I do this for a living. Don't feel bad about it. Just don't be too hard on yourself, you'll get there.

Mark <rkid67@...> wrote:


Because I can't finish what I am working on at the moment. I am taking time off from it
because it is doing me in slowly.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ariel_hunter28" <ariel_hunter28@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Why do you only "think" you're a writer??????? A









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Group: pota Message: 32057 From: Ariel Hunter Date: 4/27/2005
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Thank you for the welcome! I have looked at the site and sent it on to my father, who is pouring over it for anything new. I am trying to get him to come and join in.

taebokitti@... wrote:
Welcome, Ariel! Elaine

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Group: pota Message: 32058 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/27/2005
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In a message dated 4/27/2005 3:06:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, ariel_hunter28@... writes:
Thank you for the welcome! I have looked at the site and sent it on to my father, who is pouring over it for anything new. I am trying to get him to come and join in.
 
Welcome welcome!
If you have any burning POTA related questions
this is the group to ask.  And if we can't find an
answer for you, Patrick will make one up!
 
Sorry Pat!  That Mothership Theory still gets me.
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 32059 From: ariel_hunter28 Date: 4/27/2005
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 4/27/2005 3:06:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> ariel_hunter28@y... writes:
>
> Thank you for the welcome! I have looked at the site and sent it
on to my
> father, who is pouring over it for anything new. I am trying to
get him to come
> and join in.
>
>
>
> Welcome welcome!
> If you have any burning POTA related questions
> this is the group to ask. And if we can't find an
> answer for you, Patrick will make one up!
>
> Sorry Pat! That Mothership Theory still gets me.


LOL Okay that is my first question! What is the mothership Theory????
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Group: pota Message: 32060 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/27/2005
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.html.htmlIn a message dated 4/27/05 3:52:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ariel_hunter28@... writes:


I have moments like that and I do this for a living. Don't feel bad about it. Just don't be too hard on yourself, you'll get there.


So, when did you first see the original PLANET OF THE APES, Miss Ariel Hunter, and what do you like about it?  What do you think of the sequels and the TV show?

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 32061 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Ron Harper Lands
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  "Land of the Lost" season 3 is in stores already, I think a week early. Those who want to see 13 episodes of vintage POTA-era Ron Harper running from dinosaurs, get going. - - - Jeff
 
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Group: pota Message: 32062 From: Ariel Hunter Date: 4/27/2005
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That's a difficult question to answer. I was pretty young at the time. The last scene with the Statue of Liberty is burned into my memory from very early childhood. Even now it remains one of the powerful scenes in film history. I would love to end a script that way, but even when I was in school pota's last scene was discussed as what a writer should avoid. It was a considered a Twilight Zone moment. I always thought they were jealous! LOL

Haristas@... wrote:
In a message dated 4/27/05 3:52:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ariel_hunter28@... writes:


I have moments like that and I do this for a living. Don't feel bad about it. Just don't be too hard on yourself, you'll get there.


So, when did you first see the original PLANET OF THE APES, Miss Ariel Hunter, and what do you like about it?  What do you think of the sequels and the TV show?

-- Rory


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Group: pota Message: 32063 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/27/2005
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OH GOD!!!...DON'T ASK!!!...PLEASE!!!!...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ariel_hunter28" <ariel_hunter28@y...>
wrote:

> > If you have any burning POTA related questions
> > this is the group to ask. And if we can't find an
> > answer for you, Patrick will make one up!
> >
> > Sorry Pat! That Mothership Theory still gets me.
>
>
> LOL Okay that is my first question! What is the mothership Theory????
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Group: pota Message: 32064 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/27/2005
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In a message dated 4/27/2005 7:23:10 P.M. Central Standard Time, ariel_hunter28@... writes:

LOL Okay that is my first question! What is the mothership Theory????
 
I'll let the author himself field that question.
 
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Group: pota Message: 32065 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/27/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: New Member!
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In a message dated 4/27/2005 9:54:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, ariel_hunter28@... writes:
I would love to end a script that way, but even when I was in school pota's last scene was discussed as what a writer should avoid. It was a considered a Twilight Zone moment. I always thought they were jealous!
 
Well, since Rod Serling wrote it,
it would have to be a Twilight Zone moment.
In fact on of his Twilight Zone's ended the
same exact way.
 
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Group: pota Message: 32066 From: Dave B Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: Ron Harper Lands
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Those who want to see 13 episodes of vintage POTA-era Ron Harper
running from dinosaurs, get going.

Me! Me! Please... I want to see him running from dinosaurs!

I've never seen this show - what were the production values like? How were
the dinosaurs realized? Stop motion, puppets?

Is it kids stuff or can adults enjoys it?

Dave
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Group: pota Message: 32067 From: Dave B Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Homepage Pic
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Love the image!

Well imagined and brilliantly executed.

Is that an image from 12 Monkeys in there as well? (the little red monkey
thingy).

Dave
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Group: pota Message: 32068 From: James Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: Homepage Pic
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Glad you like it. Much thanks to Mark Terlino for contributing the pic.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:
> Love the image!
>
> Well imagined and brilliantly executed.
>
> Is that an image from 12 Monkeys in there as well? (the little red
monkey
> thingy).
>
> Dave
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Group: pota Message: 32069 From: James Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: Ron Harper Lands
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It's a great show to watch while you're stoned. Think of 'Lost in
Space' but dumbed down. As far as production values they were very low.

Here's a pic of Ron with the rest of the cast:
http://www.70slivekidvid.com/land/lotlseason3.jpg

And a pic of one of the dinosaures:
http://www.70slivekidvid.com/land/grumppylon.jpg

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:
>
> Me! Me! Please... I want to see him running from dinosaurs!
>
> I've never seen this show - what were the production values like? How
were
> the dinosaurs realized? Stop motion, puppets?
>
> Is it kids stuff or can adults enjoys it?
>
> Dave
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Group: pota Message: 32070 From: Mark Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: Homepage Pic
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Thanks Dave, glad you liked the pic. The little red monkey thingy is actually a piece from
a 'Barrel of Monkeys' game I have.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:
> Love the image!
>
> Well imagined and brilliantly executed.
>
> Is that an image from 12 Monkeys in there as well? (the little red monkey
> thingy).
>
> Dave
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Group: pota Message: 32071 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Homepage Pic
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I was right! I win!??! whoohoooo......What do I win??

;)

TIm


--- Mark <rkid67@...> wrote:

> Thanks Dave, glad you liked the pic. The little red
> monkey thingy is actually a piece from
> a 'Barrel of Monkeys' game I have.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...>
> wrote:
> > Love the image!
> >
> > Well imagined and brilliantly executed.
> >
> > Is that an image from 12 Monkeys in there as well?
> (the little red monkey
> > thingy).
> >
> > Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Group: pota Message: 32072 From: shanter2002 Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: Ron Harper Lands
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Land of the Lost is something I've missed out on, so I'll hunt that one
down, if only for Ron! With all this talk of Star Wars tv series and
the return of Doctor Who over here, what chance an Apes TV Series of
some sort? TV seems to be the way to go nowadays.John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 32073 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Homepage Pic
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That IS great! The red monkey thingy looks like a
monkey from "A Barrell Full Of Monkeys" ...a childhood
game

Tim

--- Dave B <dave@...> wrote:

> Love the image!
>
> Well imagined and brilliantly executed.
>
> Is that an image from 12 Monkeys in there as well?
> (the little red monkey
> thingy).
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Group: pota Message: 32074 From: Dave B Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Homepage Pic
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...>
wrote:
> That IS great! The red monkey thingy looks like a
> monkey from "A Barrell Full Of Monkeys" ...a childhood
> game

I've uploaded a 12 Monkeys poster (great movie) to the files just
to prove I haven't gone apeshi*! But I defer to Tim. Tim Rules,
Tim's the Monkey King :0)

Dave
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Group: pota Message: 32075 From: Mark Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Homepage Pic
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Yes, very reminiscent of the '12 Monkeys' poster. I saw POTA and 12 Monkeys as a double
feature at the Brattle Theater in Harvard Sq years ago. '12 Monkeys' just might be the
best sci-fi film since 'Bladerunner'. I await the heated debate.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:
> I've uploaded a 12 Monkeys poster (great movie) to the files just
> to prove I haven't gone apeshi*! But I defer to Tim. Tim Rules,
> Tim's the Monkey King :0)
>
> Dave
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Group: pota Message: 32076 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Homepage Pic
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Now I 'm the King of the Swingers oh, the jungle VIP,
I've reached the top and had to stop and that's what's
a botherin me.
I wanna be a man, mancub, and stroll right into town
and be just like the other men, I'm tired of monkeyin'
around.
Oh OO be dooo...I wanna be just like you.....
I wanna walk like you....talk like you ....toooo.
You'll see it's true-oo, an ape like me...can learn to
be...
..hu-ooooman to-ooo.

King Louie

--- Dave B <dave@...> wrote:
But I defer to Tim.
> Tim Rules,
> Tim's the Monkey King :0)
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Group: pota Message: 32077 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ron Harper Lands
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> I've never seen this show - what were the production values like? How were
> the dinosaurs realized? Stop motion, puppets?

> Is it kids stuff or can adults enjoys it?

Despite the low-budget production, the stories for the first couple of
seasons were written by many sci-fi authors and former Trek writers,
which means some of them are very much adult-enjoyable.

I don't remember watching the third season, and didn't even realize
Ron Harper was in it until it was mentioned here a few months ago.

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 32078 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: Ron Harper Lands
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Unfortunately, according to an associate at Fox, there is nothing new
to be had in the way of a TV show...But, the future's not all
bleak...There is talks of a comic, based on the classic films...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@m...> wrote:
> Land of the Lost is something I've missed out on, so I'll hunt that
one
> down, if only for Ron! With all this talk of Star Wars tv series and
> the return of Doctor Who over here, what chance an Apes TV Series of
> some sort? TV seems to be the way to go nowadays.John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 32079 From: Dario Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: New Member!
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Actually, the credit for that memorable ending is still debatable
since many sources have tried to claim they were the ones that came
up with it or have said 'such and such' came up with the idea.
Ironically the only person we are sure did not come up with it is
Boulle himself since he hated that ending.

The reference book "Legend of the Planet of the Apes" by Brian
Pendreigh discusses it in detail and describes all the claims. Some
have attributed it to director Blake Edwards, some to Jacobs, and in
the Legend book, serious consideration goes to one of the production
guys (can remember if it was Creber or another production artist)
since they had the first recorded dated instance of the statue in
one of the production drawings.

I do agree though that it has all the markings of a Serling idea,
and if I had to put my 2 cents worth, I too would say the likeliest
probability was that he came up with it.

The Pendreigh book is a great book BTW and every POTA fan should
read it! (UK publisher, but usually easy to find on Ebay.)

Dario

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 4/27/2005 9:54:03 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> ariel_hunter28@y... writes:
>
> I would love to end a script that way, but even when I was in
school pota's
> last scene was discussed as what a writer should avoid. It was a
considered a
> Twilight Zone moment. I always thought they were jealous!
>
>
>
> Well, since Rod Serling wrote it,
> it would have to be a Twilight Zone moment.
> In fact on of his Twilight Zone's ended the
> same exact way.
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Group: pota Message: 32080 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Homepage Pic
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In a message dated 4/28/2005 12:26:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, rkid67@... writes:
best sci-fi film since 'Bladerunner'.  I await the heated debate.
 
12 Monkeys was great, but don't forget Buckaroo Banzai.
Not as serious as 12 Monkeys, but Monkeys had its
comic moments too.  Brad Pitt switching between
a thumbs up and the finger while delivering his
manic prattle was pretty funny.
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 32081 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: New Member!
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In a message dated 4/28/2005 4:13:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, ev001@... writes:
I do agree though that it has all the markings of a Serling idea,
Yeah, it's all over the place.  But Serling does have that
Twilight Zone from the 50's or early 60s, with everything
but the Statue Of Liberty in it.  I have a comic called
Kamandi that has that though, but I'm not sure of the date.
It is a nearly ubiquitous post apoclyptic icon, that's still
no reason for Fox to stick in on the cover! Damn them to
HELLLL!!!   Why not put Rosebud on Citizen Kane?
 
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Group: pota Message: 32082 From: Ariel Hunter Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
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Awwwww come on! What is it????????? Now, I have to know!

hotscheetz <HotScheetz@...> wrote:

OH GOD!!!...DON'T ASK!!!...PLEASE!!!!...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ariel_hunter28" <ariel_hunter28@y...>
wrote:

> > If you have any burning POTA related questions
> > this is the group to ask.  And if we can't find an
> > answer for you, Patrick will make one up!
> > 
> > Sorry Pat!  That Mothership Theory still gets me.
>
>
> LOL Okay that is my first question! What is the mothership Theory????








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Group: pota Message: 32083 From: Ariel Hunter Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: New Member!
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Twilight Zone was a cool show! I have seen most of them.

LordTZer0@... wrote:
In a message dated 4/27/2005 9:54:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, ariel_hunter28@... writes:
I would love to end a script that way, but even when I was in school pota's last scene was discussed as what a writer should avoid. It was a considered a Twilight Zone moment. I always thought they were jealous!
 
Well, since Rod Serling wrote it,
it would have to be a Twilight Zone moment.
In fact on of his Twilight Zone's ended the
same exact way.
 


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Group: pota Message: 32084 From: Ariel Hunter Date: 4/28/2005
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Well, who ever came up with the idea, it was a great one! I will keep my eye out for the book.

Dario <ev001@...> wrote:
Actually, the credit for that memorable ending is still debatable
since many sources have tried to claim they were the ones that came
up with it or have said 'such and such' came up with the idea.
Ironically the only person we are sure did not come up with it is
Boulle himself since he hated that ending.

The reference book "Legend of the Planet of the Apes" by Brian
Pendreigh discusses it in detail and describes all the claims. Some
have attributed it to director Blake Edwards, some to Jacobs, and in
the Legend book, serious consideration goes to one of the production
guys (can remember if it was Creber or another production artist)
since they had the first recorded dated instance of the statue in
one of the production drawings.

I do agree though that it has all the markings of a Serling idea,
and if I had to put my 2 cents worth, I too would say the likeliest
probability was that he came up with it.

The Pendreigh book is a great book BTW and every POTA fan should
read it! (UK publisher, but usually easy to find on Ebay.)

Dario

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> In a message dated 4/27/2005 9:54:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
> ariel_hunter28@y... writes:
>
> I would  love to end a script that way, but even when I was in
school pota's
> last scene  was discussed as what a writer should avoid. It was a
considered a
> Twilight  Zone moment. I always thought they were jealous!
>
>

> Well, since Rod Serling wrote it,
> it would have to be a Twilight Zone moment.
> In fact on of his Twilight Zone's ended the
> same exact way.








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Group: pota Message: 32085 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
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Well, if you took a Terry Gilliam idea, had John Lennon and Cory Hart
write some dialog for it, have Stanley Kubrick direct and edit it, then
have a foreigner translate the english for it, and put all of this into
a POTA theme -- you'd come close to the "Mothership Theory"...=)

G

PS. I have the utmost respect for all the people I have mentioned, so
please, keep the hate mail to a minimum...=)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Ariel Hunter <ariel_hunter28@y...> wrote:
> Awwwww come on! What is it????????? Now, I have to know!
>
> hotscheetz <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> OH GOD!!!...DON'T ASK!!!...PLEASE!!!!...
>
> G
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Group: pota Message: 32086 From: James Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Homepage Pic
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Sounds like someone has been hitting the Grape Juice Plus a little hard
today;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...> wrote:
> Now I 'm the King of the Swingers oh, the jungle VIP,
> I've reached the top and had to stop and that's what's
> a botherin me.
> I wanna be a man, mancub, and stroll right into town
> and be just like the other men, I'm tired of monkeyin'
> around.
> Oh OO be dooo...I wanna be just like you.....
> I wanna walk like you....talk like you ....toooo.
> You'll see it's true-oo, an ape like me...can learn to
> be...
> ..hu-ooooman to-ooo.
>
> King Louie
>
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Group: pota Message: 32087 From: James Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
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You can read all about it in our archives just go to this post:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/message/17421

It is not a theory I adhere to but in that post an intelligent argument
is made for it.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Ariel Hunter <ariel_hunter28@y...> wrote:
> Awwwww come on! What is it????????? Now, I have to know!
>
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Group: pota Message: 32088 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ron Harper Lands
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Let's see what Richard Zanuck says about POTA when he promotes "Charlie
and the Chocolate Factory" this summer. He's usually the one with the
updates. But Linda Harrison closing her website isn't a good sign. She's
close to the source. - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "shanter2002" <mail@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:34 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ron Harper Lands


> Land of the Lost is something I've missed out on, so I'll hunt that one
> down, if only for Ron! With all this talk of Star Wars tv series and
> the return of Doctor Who over here, what chance an Apes TV Series of
> some sort? TV seems to be the way to go nowadays.John, Scrolls.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original POTA One
Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much
more...
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 32089 From: Ariel Hunter Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
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Well G, now I'm not sure I want to know! ..........On second thought, let's hear it!!!! A 

hotscheetz <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
Well, if you took a Terry Gilliam idea, had John Lennon and Cory Hart
write some dialog for it, have Stanley Kubrick direct and edit it, then
have a foreigner translate the english for it, and put all of this into
a POTA theme -- you'd come close to the "Mothership Theory"...=)

G

PS.  I have the utmost respect for all the people I have mentioned, so
please, keep the hate mail to a minimum...=)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Ariel Hunter <ariel_hunter28@y...> wrote:
> Awwwww come on! What is it????????? Now, I have to know!
>
> hotscheetz <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> OH GOD!!!...DON'T ASK!!!...PLEASE!!!!...
>
> G









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Group: pota Message: 32090 From: Ariel Hunter Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
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It's an interesting theory. I don't know if I could agree with it. Oh darn, now I am going to have to go back and watch all the movies again. LOL

James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
You can read all about it in our archives just go to this post:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/message/17421

It is not a theory I adhere to but in that post an intelligent argument
is made for it.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Ariel Hunter <ariel_hunter28@y...> wrote:
> Awwwww come on! What is it????????? Now, I have to know!
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Group: pota Message: 32091 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/28/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
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In a message dated 4/28/2005 6:44:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:
It is not a theory I adhere to
Nor do I.  It defeats the purpose of the of the opening scene.
Why rocket through space in a "shuttle" if you have a whole
mothership?  It makes no sense. 
 
 
We know that the PLANET "shuttlecraft" sinks into Dead Lake,
and that the BENEATH shuttle crash lands on the ground in the
Forbidden Zone. We also know that the ship which Milo found
had to have been landed INTACT (since it's in working order, for
the Ape-onauts to later take off in). Where did Milo find it?
Cornelius tells the Commission that Milo found it "on our
seaboard". In BENEATH, Cornelius refers to the Ocean as "the
Sea" (differentiating it from "the Lake"). So, then, Milo found the
third shuttle from Taylor's orbiting mothership on the beach, on
the shore of the Ocean. "...on our Seaboard..." This can NOT be
referring to the same ship we saw sink in PLANET, in Dead
LAKE.
 
 
So the ships are just like the pods from the Oberon?  I don't buy it. Sorry to keep using the theory as an example again Pat.  But to me, it's as full of holes as the flubs it attempts to unflub.
 
 

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Group: pota Message: 32092 From: James Date: 4/29/2005
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Very true T. It does defeat the opening of Planet. The whole point is
that Taylor, Landon & Dodge are stranded and alone. If they had a
mothership in orbit, why wouldn't their survival kits have a short
range radio in it to contact the mothership to send down another
shuttle.
Also, in Escape it is stated several times that there were two ships
that had gone missing. So if it was only one mothership why would they
say two ships? Just doesn't make sense.
As far as the changes in ship from Planet to Escape, just chalk that up
to dramatic license, like when the bridge of the Enterprise changes
from film to film without explanation.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
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> Nor do I. It defeats the purpose of the of the opening scene.
> Why rocket through space in a "shuttle" if you have a whole
> mothership? It makes no sense.
>
>
> So the ships are just like the pods from the Oberon? I don't buy
it. Sorry
> to keep using the theory as an example again Pat. But to me, it's
as full of
> holes as the flubs it attempts to unflub.
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Group: pota Message: 32093 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] New Member!
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In a message dated 4/29/2005 12:21:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:
We know that the PLANET "shuttlecraft" sinks into Dead Lake,
and that the BENEATH shuttle crash lands on the ground in the
Forbidden Zone. We also know that the ship which Milo found
had to have been landed INTACT (since it's in working order, for
the Ape-onauts to later take off in). Where did Milo find it?
Cornelius tells the Commission that Milo found it "on our
seaboard". In BENEATH, Cornelius refers to the Ocean as "the
Sea" (differentiating it from "the Lake"). So, then, Milo found the
third shuttle from Taylor's orbiting mothership on the beach, on
the shore of the Ocean. "...on our Seaboard..." This can NOT be
referring to the same ship we saw sink in PLANET, in Dead
LAKE
Perhaps Dr Milo discovered Brent's ship in the desert and Taylor's in the lake. Taking the best of each ruined ship he created a hybrid capsule with an extra stage capable of sending 3 ape-o-nauts at least into an orbit around the Earth, after which the empty second stage was discarded. Heston's crashed ship was reported to the authorities  but Milo knew if a second ship was reported there would be no end to the meddling by Dr Zaius-plus the good doctor was busy with Ursus at the time. Just a thought.
Bruce
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Group: pota Message: 32094 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/29/2005
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In a message dated 4/29/2005 12:04:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:
like when the bridge of the Enterprise changes
from film to film without explanation.
 
Speaking of which they seem to be going retro.
They did the whole Evil Universe thing, then the
Tholians, and finished up on the bridge of the
Defiant.  I wonder if they're rapping up the show
early so they can do a new Captain Kirk's
Enterprise.  I can't wait to see where they're
going with this.  I hope they aren't Jumping
The Shark with all this, but who knows?
 
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 32095 From: shanter2002 Date: 4/29/2005
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Jeff, the Times newspaper over here this week had a feature on Lucas
and one of the sidebars describes (their words, not his)his
inspirations as Flash Gordon and the PotA films.If Lucas goes TV, I
think everybody will, because people, especially movie people, always
follow the money.As for Charlie and his blasted factory, I HATE that
damn story!!! I hated it in school and I hated the original movie and
I damn well hate the new movie before I've seen it(which I
won't!).When was the last excellent, thoughtful sci fi movie? John,
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Group: pota Message: 32096 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 4/29/2005
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Nothing new, John. Lucas has been on TV before. Yes, TV is heating up with
sci-fi but I doubt POTA will be on TV. I think Fox is eyeing POTA for the
movies again sometime. It didn't do that bad. Why give people free what they
can pay for? - - - Jeff

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Group: pota Message: 32097 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: OT: "Land of the Lost": the Movie
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  More to ponder as you watch Ron Harper run from dinosaurs.  Marty Krofft was on the radio anhd reportedly said that Jack Black and Kirsten Dunst will join Will Ferrell in the "Land of the Lost" movie. It will use the "lowest of the high tech" to give it more of a feel like the TV show (this last thing matches what the Kroffts said on their "Lidsville" commentary about it). They are also plaaning an "H.R. Puffinstuff" movie (with Jack Black as Witchiepoo!). Somebody check the water in Hollywood. - - - Jeff
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Group: pota Message: 32098 From: Mark Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ron Harper Lands
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Equilibrium.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@m...> wrote:
When was the last excellent, thoughtful sci fi movie? John,
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Group: pota Message: 32099 From: shanter2002 Date: 4/29/2005
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'Why give people free what they can pay for?'---Jeff, have you been
talking to my wife? I'd like to think that Apes is important and
weighty enough to continue to be a movie franchise, rather than some
crappy little Buffy on the Planet of the Apes type show. The movies
are what really establish the crediblity of a franchise.Apart from
Men in Black. And Thunderbirds. Oh and the second two Matrix
movies.And Alien v Predator, Batman Returns, Attack of the
Clones.....anyway, you know what I mean! John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 32100 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ron Harper Lands
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In a message dated 4/29/2005 8:37:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
Fox is eyeing POTA for themovies again sometime. It didn't do that bad. Why give people free what they can pay for? - - - Jeff
The problem is they "Think" about it for years.
Then when it does get a greenlight they want
it yesterday.  No time for preproduction at all.
 
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Group: pota Message: 32101 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ron Harper Lands
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In a message dated 4/29/2005 10:57:17 A.M. Central Standard Time, mail@... writes:
rather than some crappy little Buffy on the Planet of the Apes type show.
 
Oh, you mean POTA2K1.
We can only hope they do
better next time.
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Group: pota Message: 32102 From: Kassidy Rae Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Charlie in the Lost Factory
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<As for Charlie and his blasted factory, I HATE that damn story!!! I hated it in school and I hated the original movie and I damn well hate the new movie before I've seen it(which I
won't!).When was the last excellent, thoughtful sci fi movie? John, Scrolls.>
 
++I agree completely.  My kids love the old movie.  Gah. 
 
Oh, and I remember watching the Land of the Lost in its original run.  It was cheesy. I liked it.
 
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Group: pota Message: 32103 From: Mark Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Thoughtful sci-fi films
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'Equilibrium' was thoughtful as was 'Minority Report'. Even 'A.I.' had it's moments. I'm not
saying these films were flawless but the sci-fi subject matter made you think about mankind's future.
Oh, and 'Jurassic Park' also. But none of these films are as great as that timeless sci-fi classic 'Barfly'.
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Group: pota Message: 32104 From: James Date: 4/29/2005
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A.I.? I kept on hoping that Urko would show up and shoot that annoying
little kid;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
> 'Equilibrium' was thoughtful as was 'Minority Report'. Even 'A.I.'
had it's moments. I'm not
> saying these films were flawless but the sci-fi subject matter made
you think about mankind's future.
> Oh, and 'Jurassic Park' also. But none of these films are as great
as that timeless sci-fi classic 'Barfly'.
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Group: pota Message: 32105 From: Mark Date: 4/29/2005
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Yes, that damn kid is annoying. Any kid with three names annoys the hell out of me.
Except little Freddie G. Sanford... and the G is for gravy if you got any.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> A.I.? I kept on hoping that Urko would show up and shoot that annoying
> little kid;-)
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Group: pota Message: 32106 From: Mark Date: 4/29/2005
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What I meant was these Hollywood kids with the three silly names. I don't want to offend
anyone out there with a three-named child. Thrice-named?

Sincerely,
Mark James Terlino

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
> Yes, that damn kid is annoying. Any kid with three names annoys the hell out of me.
> Except little Freddie G. Sanford... and the G is for gravy if you got any.
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Group: pota Message: 32107 From: James Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver
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This week's Lesson from everyone's favorite simian philosopher is now
available. Just click the banner on the Yahoo home page or this link:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm

This is Lesson #13 which means we've been doing this for 3 months now.
How time flies. I hope everyone enjoys them as much as we enjoy putting
them together. Thanks to Mark, Glen and Elaine for all their help.
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Group: pota Message: 32108 From: Dave B Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: Thoughtful sci-fi films
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All worthy contenders - How about 'Contact'? That's the one that
got me deeply contemplating my navel.

Dave

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
> 'Equilibrium' was thoughtful as was 'Minority Report'. Even 'A.I.'
had it's moments. I'm not
> saying these films were flawless but the sci-fi subject matter
made you think about mankind's future.
> Oh, and 'Jurassic Park' also. But none of these films are as
great as that timeless sci-fi classic 'Barfly'.
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Group: pota Message: 32109 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Thoughtful sci-fi films
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In a message dated 4/29/2005 12:17:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, rkid67@... writes:
But none of these films are as great as that timeless sci-fi classic 'Barfly'.

 
Funny you should mention this classic film.
I drank free all week when Charles Bukowski
died, but saying, "How about one on the cuff?
For me and all my friends!"  I don't think there's
a bartender on the planet who hasn't seen Barfly!
 
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Group: pota Message: 32110 From: geekorama2005 Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: With all the discussion of best Sci-Fi movies going on...
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Have you guys seen the trailer for Serenity? Did any of you watch Firefly for the one
season that it was on the air? I really really loved it, for reasons too numerous to count...
here's the trailer - http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/serenity/

It looks fun! And if you haven't watched Firefly, I highly recommend it! First (and only)
season is available on DVD.
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Group: pota Message: 32111 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: Re: New Member!
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I think you hit the nail on the head, right here...It has been
documented that Dehn, when faced with the seemingly impossible task of
coming up with the story for EFTPOTA, remembered that there still was
Taylor's ship in the FZ, in a lake (or bay) that empties into the
sea...He never is quoted as thinking, "Ah, there's that Mother ship,
and those shuttles waiting to come down"...It is inarguable that it was
Taylor's ship in EFTPOTA, regardless of the inconsistancies...

I'm a big fan of sci-fi, and I've seen a lot of it over the last 50
years...In any sequel, there is usually great license taken as far as
continuity is concerned...
In Star Wars, the Millennium Falcon changes from three landing gear to
five, with no explanation...Luke's lightsaber also changes, for no
reason (before ROTJ)...
My favorite Star Trek bloop is where the Klingon Bird-Of-Prey bridge
DRASTICALLY changes from ST III to ST IV -- even to the "mood-lighting"
color...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> > As far as the changes in ship from Planet to Escape, just chalk
that up
> to dramatic license, like when the bridge of the Enterprise changes
> from film to film without explanation.
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Group: pota Message: 32112 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/29/2005
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It still is, and I still do...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...> wrote:

> Oh, and I remember watching the Land of the Lost in its original
run. It was cheesy. I liked it.
>
> Kass
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Group: pota Message: 32113 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/29/2005
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Ron Harper Lands
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Actually, I hear George Lucas is interested in doing a POTA series
right after "Indiana Jones IV"...
He's going to call it -- "POTA1138.4EB"...

(Just a joke, people...)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 4/29/2005 10:57:17 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> mail@m... writes:
>
> rather than some crappy little Buffy on the Planet of the Apes type
show.
>
>
>
> Oh, you mean POTA2K1.
> We can only hope they do
> better next time.
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Group: pota Message: 32114 From: Ray Date: 4/30/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Thoughtful sci-fi films
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I really like 'Gattica'. Definately not everyone's cup of tea, but I
thought it was well acted, with a good story and a moving soundtrack.

I LOVE big, lavish, FX heavy, scifi movies, but I thought 'Gattica's
minimilist style really worked in this particular picture.

-Ray
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Group: pota Message: 32115 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 4/30/2005
Subject: Milo update
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I have some info regarding Kelley the chimp who we were trying to find. There is a Kelly at MD Anderson Cancer Center in Bastrop, Texas.  She is the Kelly that we have been tracking.  She was not used in AIDS research and is part of what they call their clean colony.  She is alive and well and is being used as an aunt to help care for chimps born at the facility. Bastrop is one of the few labs in the country that is allowed by the government to breed chimps for research.
 
Their history on Kelley is the same as we already have(going back no further than LEMSIP in their records).  We would need some "back story" in order to piece together her true story. Even then we might find that although it is likely they have crossed paths, this is not our Kelley.
 
Elaine
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Group: pota Message: 32116 From: drhasslein Date: 5/1/2005
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Another burning question. When Cornelius asks for the opportunity
to "Kill Ourselves" in escape, I assumed it meant to have the ability
to defend themselves,(therefore Dixon hands him the gun) wheras others
(Eric Greene, and also fiercly debated with my brother)have stated it
meant suicide. Thoughts?
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Group: pota Message: 32117 From: shanter2002 Date: 5/1/2005
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Speaking of three name brats, wasn't Kraik from The Legacy(Jackie Earle
Haley, or somwething like that) one of the better child actors on TV in
the 70s? He's excellent in Apes and he's also one of the voices in one
of my all time fave cartoons, Valley of the Dinosaurs.I wish that
masterpiece would come out on DVD.John, Srcolls.
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Group: pota Message: 32118 From: shanter2002 Date: 5/1/2005
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Elaine, you're dedication on this is pretty inspirational. Is there
mileage in doing a fan petition to see if Kelley can have a better
home, or is she actually likely to be safe and happy where she is? If
she needs help,maybe a petition might shame Fox into grabbing some free
good publicity? There has to be the chance that people loke Linda
Harrison and Beverly Garland would pitch in.There can't be THAT many
Kelly/Kelley named chimps so you must be on to something. I'm just
thinking out loud, but it would be really something to push this on to
a happy conclusion---are there any animal groups who could be enlisted?
Elaine, you are restoring my faith in human nature.John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 32119 From: Mark Date: 5/1/2005
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Yes, Jackie Earle Haley. He was good in the film 'Breaking Away' also. 'Valley of the
Dinosuars' pops up on the Boomerang channel from time to time.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@m...> wrote:
> Speaking of three name brats, wasn't Kraik from The Legacy (Jackie Earle
> Haley, or something like that) one of the better child actors on TV in
> the 70s? He's excellent in Apes and he's also one of the voices in one
> of my all time fave cartoons, Valley of the Dinosaurs.I wish that
> masterpiece would come out on DVD.John, Srcolls.
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Group: pota Message: 32120 From: Mark Date: 5/1/2005
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I'll have to watch that scene in 'Escape' first and get back to this. Does Eric Greene
mention this is his book? What page? I panned through it and couldn't find anything on it.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@y...> wrote:
> Another burning question. When Cornelius asks for the opportunity
> to "Kill Ourselves" in escape, I assumed it meant to have the ability
> to defend themselves,(therefore Dixon hands him the gun) wheras others
> (Eric Greene, and also fiercly debated with my brother)have stated it
> meant suicide. Thoughts?
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Group: pota Message: 32121 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 5/1/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] "Kill Ourselves"
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In a message dated 5/1/2005 7:04:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, drhasslein@... writes:
Another burning question. When Cornelius asks for the opportunity
to "Kill Ourselves" in escape, I assumed it meant to have the ability
to defend themselves,(therefore Dixon hands him the gun) wheras others
(Eric Greene, and also fiercly debated with my brother)have stated it
meant suicide. Thoughts?

I always thought it meant they'd rather kill themselves than go back & have Cornelius stand trial for murder (of the orderly) and possibly have the baby's life terminated as well.
Bruce 
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Group: pota Message: 32122 From: ron kenner Date: 5/1/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Milo update
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indeed, elaine's tenacity has been comparable to that of a pitbull.
 
having been involved with animal issues for a number of years now, i think its safe to say that kelly-milo is not in good hands.
 
whether or not our involvement will improve her condition is debate-able, but i beleive we should fight for what is right, even if victory seems improbable.
 
rob/ron

shanter2002 <mail@...> wrote:
Elaine, you're dedication on this is pretty inspirational. Is there
mileage in doing a fan petition to see if Kelley can have a better
home, or is she actually likely to be safe and happy where she is? If
she needs help,maybe a petition might shame Fox into grabbing some free
good publicity? There has to be the chance that people loke Linda
Harrison and Beverly Garland would pitch in.There can't be THAT many
Kelly/Kelley named chimps so you must be on to something. I'm just
thinking out loud, but it would be really something to push this on to
a happy conclusion---are there any animal groups who could be enlisted?
Elaine, you are restoring my faith in human nature.John, Scrolls.








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Group: pota Message: 32123 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 5/1/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] "Kill Ourselves"
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When Cornelius asks for the opportunity to "Kill Ourselves" in ESCAPE, I assumed it meant to have the ability to defend themselves,(therefore Dixon hands him the gun) wheras others have stated it meant suicide. Thoughts?


It does mean they'd rather commit suicide...
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Group: pota Message: 32124 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 5/1/2005
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Yes, Jackie Earle Haley.  He was good in the film 'Breaking Away' also.


And he was in "The Bad News Bears" films...
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Group: pota Message: 32125 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/1/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Milo update
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I did not do this research, I am the messenger here for someone who wanted  the group to be updated. If the lab would be willing to sell her, she could probably go to one of the better
sanctuaries like Monkeyworld in England or one of the sanctuaries in Florida. This would be great but unfortunately, I think the lab owns her. Elaine
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Group: pota Message: 32126 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/1/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Milo update
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.html I too am involved in animal issues but battling labs is tough. Legally they own the animals they use. The sanctuary I visited at Central Washington University is trying to get laws changed where the conditions are more appropiate for primates. This is a tough road, labs do not see them as animals that need social contact and enrichment. Therefore, primates often develop mental illness. Then even if the laws were changed, would they be enforced adequately? Elaine<.html
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Group: pota Message: 32127 From: drhasslein Date: 5/2/2005
Subject: Re: "Kill Ourselves"
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Page 59 of the hardback version, he mentions in Planet o/t Men
scrnply there is a plan by C & Z to kill themselves - alluded to,
although not enacted, in Escape. I thought he expanded on it more but
I guess not. The thought of suicide never crossed my mind when Roddy
uttered the line, because Corn always chastised mankind for being
self destructive.





--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
> I'll have to watch that scene in 'Escape' first and get back to
this. Does Eric Greene
> mention this is his book? What page? I panned through it and
couldn't find anything on it.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@y...> wrote:
> > Another burning question. When Cornelius asks for the opportunity
> > to "Kill Ourselves" in escape, I assumed it meant to have the
ability
> > to defend themselves,(therefore Dixon hands him the gun) wheras
others
> > (Eric Greene, and also fiercly debated with my brother)have
stated it
> > meant suicide. Thoughts?
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Group: pota Message: 32128 From: Dave B Date: 5/2/2005
Subject: Enhancements
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I'm not truly suggesting anything here, more thinking out loud...

Yesterday I sat down with my son and watched Laurel and
Hardy's 'Way out West '. This was the colorized version which I
thought was very clever and enjoyable. Now I know the
colorization process has sparked outrage amongst purists who
think it an abomination but it didn't bother me at all (although I
can't say I enjoyed the film any more or less because of it).

Now, here's my point... What if the original POTA were chosen by
some bright spark for an 'enhanced' version. I'm not just talking
sound and picture quality - I mean replacement CGI effects (the
storm in the desert - the statue of Liberty) enhanced virtual
characters in the crowd scenes etc - something like the Star
Wars special editions (or 'only' editions now, I believe)

Two questions:
1: Would this be an interesting experiment that might give the
movie a new lease of life making it perhaps more accessable to
a new generation - or would it be an abomination?

2: If you were overseeing such a project what would you
enhance? Personally I'd like an exterior shot of the ship hitting
the water.

Dave B
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Group: pota Message: 32129 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/2/2005
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enhancements
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In a message dated 5/2/2005 3:58:44 A.M. Central Standard Time, dave@... writes:
something like the Star Wars special editions (or 'only' editions now, I believe)
 
That's a tough call.
First off I'd like to say on some films I don't care.
Colorize, B & W, makes no difference to me.
Of course I'm not going to sit down to a colorize
Maltese Falcon.  But if it's some added second unit
stuff they just didn't have the budget to give the director
to make, that's fine as long as they add to the story
and not detract from it.  But colorization, to me has
always made the actors look like they have the hep,
and I don't mean they're cool.  They look like they have
jaundice -- not a natural skin tone in the bunch.  I can't
think what sort of stuff they could add to POTA. 
 
Matching the film stock would be a bitch for a start.
But if it was possible, I for one would like more insight
into Ape culture.  Something more than a trip to the
museum, or a day at the market.  I know the city was
a bit small.  But there must have been parts of it we
didn't see.  A five second establishing shot of the
gorillas walking the horses just doesn't do it for me. 
 
Now if they can recreate the actors as CG characters
convincingly, and it looks like they're getting close to it
now, I for one would like a bit of backstory on the main
players parts. Because once they break Taylor out, the
plotlines stay pretty taught after that, with not much other
than the cave to explore.  Did gorilla attend the academy?
Was it a cradle to grave thing like modern Japan before
the bubble economy burst -- putting Lucius straight into a
job upon graduation?  If Z & C were so on the fringe were
there others, who had their own visions of the future?
 
 
 
 
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