I'd come to a NYC ape fan get together. Meeting at the Public Library
is a funny idea. Of course there's always the Statue of Liberty (I
believe Liberty Island is open to the public again) or St.Patrick's
Cathedral or even the concourse of Grand Central station where
Brent's interrogation takes place. All, appropriate spots for ape
fans to meet.
I'm hoping to put a Gorilla soldier costume together for Halloween
and march in the Village Halloween parade this year. It might be fun
to have a whole bunch of POTA related costume goers represented in
the parade. So all you NYC POTA fans, come on downtown on Halloween.
Anyone can march in the parade.It's ALOT of fun.

-Ray

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> We seem to have quite a group from NYC now. A few months ago I took
> Helen and her daughters for a tour of the POTA sites when they were
> visiting New York. Maybe those of us in the NYC area should all get
> together for lunch sometime. We could meet on the steps of the
library:-
> )
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <ursus3978@a...> wrote:
> > NYC Ape fans rule! (I'm in Queens). And we should, after all, we
live
> > right in the heart of the Forbidden Zone.
> >

So, who did come up the idea of the half buried Statue of Liberty?
Was it Alex Schomburg, an illustrator/comic book artist?

Check out this cover of Fantastic Universe magazine from September of
1953:
http://www.noosfere.com/showcase/fantastic_universe_page_1.htm

-Ray
www.rayalma.com

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In a message dated 5/15/2005 11:48:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ursus3978@... writes:

So, who did come up the idea of the half buried Statue of Liberty?
Was it Alex Schomburg, an illustrator/comic book artist?

Check out this cover of Fantastic Universe magazine from September of
1953:
http://www.noosfere.com/showcase/fantastic_universe_page_1.htm

-Ray
www.rayalma.com

   Actually Schomburg did 2 Statue of Liberty covers-that one you mentioned and another for Amazing Stories in Feb of 1964, both of which pre-dated the Apes film. You can see them both in a book titled Saucer Attack!

  Bruce

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.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/15/05 11:48:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ursus3978@... writes:

So, who did come up the idea of the half buried Statue of Liberty?
Was it Alex Schomburg, an illustrator/comic book artist?

Check out this cover of Fantastic Universe magazine from September of
1953:
http://www.noosfere.com/showcase/fantastic_universe_page_1.htm

-Ray
www.rayalma.com

I've been aware that the image of a half-buried Statue of Liberty was on at least a couple pulp SF magazine covers years before PLANET came out in 1968.

One has to remember Rod Serling's involvement in PLANET.  Serling, of course, had "The Twilight Zone" TV series.  In looking for stories to adapt for that show he must have reviewed thousands of stories and I'm sure the covers of many of the old SF mags stuck in his head.  I believe PLANET's associate producer Mort Abrahams comment when he said about PLANET's famous closing shot, "The concept was Rod's."  However, that doesn't mean that I think Serling came up with it out of thin air.  Obviously not.  I also think that given the political allegory on the US that PLANET turned out to be with Michael Wilson's contribution, the Statue of Liberty ending took on greater resonance.  If you read the Serling script for PLANET, the ending seem more like just a visual gimmick, but in the final film it came to really mean something.

-- Rory<.html <.html

IMHO, the final word is the map overlay we have on site, here...Laying
Cornelius' map over the to-scale map of NYC, points out everything,
unequivocally...

Please keep the screaming disagreements to a dull roar children,
please...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> Yes I was basing it on Taylor's comment on 'when the groceries run
> out'.
> I agree that it could be a day or two more than the 'three days' if
> they conserved their supplies well. But even if it is five days, Ape
> City still can't be that far from where the ship landed, 50-60 miles
> away at most.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> >
> >
> > I don't think it was three days.
> > He said many days and nights.
> > Three days was just the food
> > supply limit. Water who knows?
> > But in the desert, no more that
> > a few days after it ran out. I'd
> > say it was a week, tops.

.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/15/05 1:02:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

IMHO, the final word is the map overlay we have on site, here...Laying
Cornelius' map over the to-scale map of NYC, points out everything,
unequivocally...

Please keep the screaming disagreements to a dull roar children,
please...=)

G

It works if you lay his map over the Chesapeake Bay area, which is correct with the conclusion of the movie since Taylor rides NORTH to find the Statue of Liberty.  Remember, the Statue is on an Island SOUTH on Manhattan.  They way some of you guys want to orientate Cornelius' map it would have Taylor riding along the shore of Long Island at the end, but he wouldn't come across the Statue of Liberty that way.

Cornelius' cave has to be south of the Statue along the Atlantic Ocean coast, exactly how far south no one can say.  The inland sea where the spaceship crash-lands and sinks is inland and WEST of Cornelius' cave.  This makes it all very south of NYC, south even of New Jersey, and Ape City is even further inland and southwest of the inland sea.

Another HUGE mistake of BENEATH was to shrink the locations of the original movie and mix them up by having Brent stumble into the Queens subway station just outside of where Ape City is supposed to be.

-- Rory<.html <.html

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In a message dated 5/15/2005 5:42:14 A.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

I noticed that too on the DVD. They screwed up the letterbox
transfer. I'm not sure why but I've always assumed it may have
something to do with Conquest being filmed in Todd-AO rather than in
Panavision like the rest of the films. So the frame dimensions might
be slightly off.

 

I think it was deliberate. You can't sell a movie as very futuristic

if it's set back in the twentieth century.

 

 

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.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/14/2005 9:33:49 AM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

It's never narrowed down to three days. 

While the astronauts trek isn't ever narrowed down, Cornelius mentions that his diggings are a three day ride away...<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/14/2005 11:07:24 PM Central Standard Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:

Does any one know if the date is cut off of the letter boxed Japanesse Laser disc? If it isn't I will have to have a copy of my LD transfered to DVD.

What difference does the appearance of one small (seen or unseen) date make in the enjoyment of the film? Why go thru all the trouble of getting the LD to DVD for one number?

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In a message dated 5/15/2005 5:42:24 A.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Ape City still can't be that far from where the ship landed, 50-60 miles
away at most.

 

That doesn't sound quite right to me.

The top Ultra-Marathoner who ran 262

miles non stop, also ran 135 miles in

Death Valley in 130 degree weather.

The average person walks at 4 mph.

But even at 1 mph on rough ground,

they should have been able to cover

at least 100 miles and in only 3 days.

And when they went to the cave it

took the half the night and part of the

next just to get to the cornfield. And

that was the short leg of the trip.  I'd

say New York was at least a 100

miles, minimum. If only looking at the

blast radius of an average H bomb.

 

 

 

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> But even at 1 mph on rough ground,
> they should have been able to cover
> at least 100 miles and in only 3 days.

At 1 mph that's 24 miles a day which is 72 miles in 3 days. Now
assuming they would need to sleep at least 6 hours a day, then they
would only cover 54 miles in 3 days. And that doesn't take into account
climbing up and down hills and rocky cliffs.

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In a message dated 5/15/2005 5:28:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Now assuming they would need to sleep at least 6 hours a day

Never assume.  These are astronauts!

They aren't going to waste six hours

on sleep in a desert with their water

running out. The norm survival is to

cover the most ground at night and

rest in the heat of the day.  And we

already determined it took more than

3 days.

 

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In a message dated 5/15/2005 5:28:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

then they
would only cover 54 miles in 3 days.

The blast radius alone is 30 miles. I doubt

they're going to build Ape city as close as

that to the Forbidden Zone.

 

 

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.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/15/05 6:18:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mlccougar@... writes:

While the astronauts trek isn't ever narrowed down, Cornelius mentions that his diggings are a three day ride away...

That's not counting a detour to the "dead lake" -- which they don't take.<.html <.html

Finally! I can blather on about the trip! It was awesome, James!
Thanks for coming out to meet us!

James is just as excellent a host in person as he is on the group.
We had a great time! We went to all the places mentioned (in a post
that follows James's but precedes this one) except for the Statue of
Liberty. We wouldn't have had time. We met at St. Patrick's and
walked to the Public Library and Grand Central Terminal. (We also
took in some other sites – and ate, too!) For country girls, this
was huge!! And a great introduction to the city, too.

--Helen

PS I think it'a a great idea that you New Yorkers should all get
together! There is a lot of stuff to share between you guys, and I
think you'd have a lot of fun.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> We seem to have quite a group from NYC now. A few months ago I
took
> Helen and her daughters for a tour of the POTA sites when they
were
> visiting New York. Maybe those of us in the NYC area should all
get
> together for lunch sometime. We could meet on the steps of the
library:-
> )
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <ursus3978@a...> wrote:
> > NYC Ape fans rule! (I'm in Queens). And we should, after all, we
live
> > right in the heart of the Forbidden Zone.
> >

Concerning the whereabouts of the forbidden zone... This isn't well
thought out, but wasn't there a lot of ground to cover OUTSIDE of
Manhattan? There was also desert and mountains and stuff. It seems
that the forbidden zone covered a large area. (As far as the eyes
could see, and no one noticed New York City off in the distance as
they walked across the dessert after crashing the ship.) And then,
beyond that were the waterfalls and the cornfield. And then, beyond
that (who knows how far away) was Ape City.

--Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 5/15/2005 5:28:06 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@a... writes:
>
> then they
> would only cover 54 miles in 3 days.
>
>
> The blast radius alone is 30 miles. I doubt
> they're going to build Ape city as close as
> that to the Forbidden Zone.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:

> The latest 'Lesson' is now available. Just click the banner on the

Home

> Page or this link:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm
>
>

I love this one. Nice work.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:

> PS Just wanted to say welcome back to a very special person.

Who you talkin' 'bout there, James?

You're right. My apologies. I was refering to the location of the
scarecrows and the waterfall. Ape City was further into the green area.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
>
>
> The blast radius alone is 30 miles. I doubt
> they're going to build Ape city as close as
> that to the Forbidden Zone.

sorry -- "desert!"

ARG!!!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> Concerning the whereabouts of the forbidden zone... This isn't
well
> thought out, but wasn't there a lot of ground to cover OUTSIDE of
> Manhattan? There was also desert and mountains and stuff. It
seems
> that the forbidden zone covered a large area. (As far as the eyes
> could see, and no one noticed New York City off in the distance as
> they walked across the dessert after crashing the ship.) And
then,
> beyond that were the waterfalls and the cornfield. And then,
beyond
> that (who knows how far away) was Ape City.
>
> --Helen
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 5/15/2005 5:28:06 P.M. Central Standard
Time,
> > JamesA1102@a... writes:
> >
> > then they
> > would only cover 54 miles in 3 days.
> >
> >
> > The blast radius alone is 30 miles. I doubt
> > they're going to build Ape city as close as
> > that to the Forbidden Zone.

Well, first if I buy a movie, I want to see all of it; it is the
little pieces in the Apes film that makes a difference to me. The
dtaes give it a boarder. Any way it does for me
And I never have had any troulbe getting LD's transfered to DVD.

In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/14/2005 11:07:24 PM Central Standard Time,
> JLKINSER1970@h... writes:
>
> > Does any one know if the date is cut off of the letter boxed

Japanesse

> > Laser disc? If it isn't I will have to have a copy of my LD

transfered to DVD.

> >
> What difference does the appearance of one small (seen or unseen)

date make

> in the enjoyment of the film? Why go thru all the trouble of getting

the LD to

> DVD for one number?

Maybe we should set a date for a Saturday or Sunday to all get
together.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <ursus3978@a...> wrote:
> I'd come to a NYC ape fan get together. Meeting at the Public
Library
> is a funny idea. Of course there's always the Statue of Liberty (I
> believe Liberty Island is open to the public again) or
St.Patrick's
> Cathedral or even the concourse of Grand Central station where
> Brent's interrogation takes place. All, appropriate spots for ape
> fans to meet.
> I'm hoping to put a Gorilla soldier costume together for Halloween
> and march in the Village Halloween parade this year. It might be
fun
> to have a whole bunch of POTA related costume goers represented in
> the parade. So all you NYC POTA fans, come on downtown on
Halloween.
> Anyone can march in the parade.It's ALOT of fun.
>
> -Ray
>

It was a great pleasure showing the sites of my home town to
you 'country girls'. :-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> Finally! I can blather on about the trip! It was awesome,
James!
> Thanks for coming out to meet us!
>
> James is just as excellent a host in person as he is on the
group.
> We had a great time! We went to all the places mentioned (in a
post
> that follows James's but precedes this one) except for the Statue
of
> Liberty. We wouldn't have had time. We met at St. Patrick's and
> walked to the Public Library and Grand Central Terminal. (We also
> took in some other sites – and ate, too!) For country girls, this
> was huge!! And a great introduction to the city, too.
>
> --Helen
>
> PS I think it'a a great idea that you New Yorkers should all get
> together! There is a lot of stuff to share between you guys, and I
> think you'd have a lot of fun.
>

I agree. The point of DVDs is to present a film in as close to it's
theatrical version as is possible.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "luke_the_drifter52" <JLKINSER1970@h...>
wrote:

>
> Well, first if I buy a movie, I want to see all of it; it is the
> little pieces in the Apes film that makes a difference to me. The
> dtaes give it a boarder. Any way it does for me
> And I never have had any troulbe getting LD's transfered to DVD.
>

Take a guess;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
> Who you talkin' 'bout there, James?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:

> At 1 mph that's 24 miles a day which is 72 miles in 3 days. Now
> assuming they would need to sleep at least 6 hours a day, then they
> would only cover 54 miles in 3 days. And that doesn't take into

account

> climbing up and down hills and rocky cliffs.

HEY! Nobody told me that there was going to be MATH problems in this
discussion group! <:O

Next thing u know, spilling is gonna cownt.

-Ray
www.rayalma.com

Well so far we've covered geography, philosophy, religion, history,
engineering, physics and even temporal mechanics. Why not math. So
study up there's going to a quiz in the morning;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <ursus3978@a...> wrote:
>
> HEY! Nobody told me that there was going to be MATH problems in this
> discussion group! <:O
>
> Next thing u know, spilling is gonna cownt.
>
> -Ray
> www.rayalma.com

.html Hi Helen! Glad you are back! Elaine<.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/15/2005 8:29:11 PM Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

I agree. The point of DVDs is to present a film in as close to it's
theatrical version as is possible.

That may be true, but being picky about one little date is pretty nitpicky... It's not like it's a deleted scene that could make the difference... The date 1983 makes no actual difference in the CONQUEST film... The plague could have happened in the year 2027 and it wouldn't have made any difference... The only reason they pushed the date up so soon was so that they could have continuity from ESCAPE to CONQUEST...

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Thanks, Helen...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> > The latest 'Lesson' is now available. Just click the banner on the
> Home
> > Page or this link:
> > http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm
> >
> >
>
> I love this one. Nice work.

Then lets remove the 1999 date out of the opening of the film!!!!
It isn't about being picky; it is about the studios tampering with
classic films. I could care less if the date was 1983, 1993 or 2003;
just leave the films in their original splendor and let me get what
I pay for; the whole movie and not an edit that the studios think I
don't need. Besides, the letter box VHS copies were released in the
1998 and the date is there. But to be frank, I never stated in my
original post that it took away from the movie; that was your words.
All I asked was if any one noticed the date was missing.

In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/15/2005 8:29:11 PM Central Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@a... writes:
>
> > I agree. The point of DVDs is to present a film in as close to

it's

> > theatrical version as is possible.
> >
>
> That may be true, but being picky about one little date is pretty

nitpicky...

> It's not like it's a deleted scene that could make the

difference... The date

> 1983 makes no actual difference in the CONQUEST film... The plague

could have

> happened in the year 2027 and it wouldn't have made any

difference... The

> only reason they pushed the date up so soon was so that they could

have

> continuity from ESCAPE to CONQUEST...

.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/15/2005 11:36:43 PM Central Standard Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:

Then lets remove the 1999 date out of the opening of the film!!!!

We could remove the 1991 date from the beginning of the film and it would make no difference storywise...

<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/15/2005 11:36:43 PM Central Standard Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:

just leave the films in their original splendor and let me get what
I pay for; the whole movie and not an edit that the studios think I
don't need.

I can't say you're wrong here, but at least we got a letter box version rather than a pan and scan of the film... Now pan and scan, that's really tampering with the film...

<.html <.html

Thanks to our friend Dave Ballard more restored French magazine covers
are now available on the Group website. Just go to:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/ComicsCovers.htm

They are also available on Hunter's site: http://www.goatley.com/pota/

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <ursus3978@a...> wrote:

>
> HEY! Nobody told me that there was going to be MATH problems in this
> discussion group! <:O
>
> Next thing u know, spilling is gonna cownt.
>
> -Ray
> www.rayalma.com

What? :O Spelling doesn't count???

Math? NO!! Don't make me think!!

Helen

Thanks, Elaine. It's good to be back.

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> Hi Helen! Glad you are back! Elaine

Ummm... I can't tell French magazine covers from the daily news.
I've looked, but I'm not sure which are the new French magazine
covers. I see comic covers and book covers. Am I lost?

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> Thanks to our friend Dave Ballard more restored French magazine
covers
> are now available on the Group website. Just go to:
>
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/ComicsCover
s.htm
>
> They are also available on Hunter's site:
http://www.goatley.com/pota/

.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/15/05 7:48:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

James is just as excellent a host in person as he is on the group. 
We had a great time!  We went to all the places mentioned (in a post
that follows James's but precedes this one) except for the Statue of
Liberty.  We wouldn't have had time.  We met at St. Patrick's and
walked to the Public Library and Grand Central Terminal.  (We also
took in some other sites – and ate, too!) For country girls, this
was huge!!  And a great introduction to the city, too.

--Helen

If I'd known you were going, Helen, I'd have told you to swing by the Loews State 2 Theatre in Times Square and look at were I first saw BENEATH in June of 1970!

-- Rory<.html <.html

Just go to this page:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Comics5.htm
to see the French covers.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> Ummm... I can't tell French magazine covers from the daily news.
> I've looked, but I'm not sure which are the new French magazine
> covers. I see comic covers and book covers. Am I lost?
>
> Helen
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:

> >
>
> If I'd known you were going, Helen, I'd have told you to swing by

the Loews

> State 2 Theatre in Times Square and look at were I first saw BENEATH

in June of

> 1970!
>
> -- Rory

I'm going to sound st*pid, but we went to Times Square and I think
James actually pointed it out. Isn't it near the flag pole? I could
be wrong. It seems there were a lot of theaters around there. (Sorry
I've forgotten, James.)

Helen

super cool custommade zaius simpsons figure.
i hope that most of you already have seen this masterpiece who hasn t
go and look now!

http://horrorseek.com/horror/ghastly/ozaius.html"

I hate to tell you this but the Loew's State was torn down about 10
years ago. There's a Virgin superstore there now.

It's a shame I saw Marooned there as a child.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 5/15/05 7:48:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
>
>
> If I'd known you were going, Helen, I'd have told you to swing by the
Loews
> State 2 Theatre in Times Square and look at were I first saw BENEATH
in June of
> 1970!
>
> -- Rory

Oh well, another fake memory...

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> I hate to tell you this but the Loew's State was torn down about
10
> years ago. There's a Virgin superstore there now.
>
> It's a shame I saw Marooned there as a child.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> > In a message dated 5/15/05 7:48:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > sand_hill_school@y... writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > If I'd known you were going, Helen, I'd have told you to swing
by the
> Loews
> > State 2 Theatre in Times Square and look at were I first saw
BENEATH
> in June of
> > 1970!
> >
> > -- Rory

Now that I give you!!! I hate the Pan and Scan if it was originally
letter boxed. Pan and Scan cuts the film way to bad for my taste

In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/15/2005 11:36:43 PM Central Standard Time,
> JLKINSER1970@h... writes:
>
> > just leave the films in their original splendor and let me get

what

> > I pay for; the whole movie and not an edit that the studios think

I

> > don't need.
>
> I can't say you're wrong here, but at least we got a letter box

version

> rather than a pan and scan of the film... Now pan and scan, that's

really tampering

> with the film...

.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/16/05 5:54:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

I hate to tell you this but the Loew's State was torn down about 10
years ago. There's a Virgin superstore there now.

It's a shame I saw Marooned there as a child.

I'm not surprised.  I had a feeling it wasn't there anymore.

-- Rory<.html <.html

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

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Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2005
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We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

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Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2005
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Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2005
Time: All Day

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

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Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2005
Time: All Day

Happy Birthday Bobby!!!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.
>
> Bobby Porter's Birthday
>
> Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2005
> Time: All Day

I think the Home Page pic says it all.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.
>
> Planet of the Apes published in 1963
>
> Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2005
> Time: All Day

That is a great looking custom action figure. Thanks for posting the
link. It makes me wish that there was and ENTIRE "POTA The Musical",
not just the small snippets we see on that episode.

-Ray
wwww.rayalma.com

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dirkelsing" <dirkelsing@w...> wrote:
> super cool custommade zaius simpsons figure.
> i hope that most of you already have seen this masterpiece who hasn t
> go and look now!
>
> http://horrorseek.com/horror/ghastly/ozaius.html"

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In a message dated 5/15/2005 1:39:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

It works if you lay his map over the Chesapeake Bay area, which is correct with the conclusion of the movie since Taylor rides NORTH to find the Statue of Liberty.  Remember, the Statue is on an Island SOUTH on Manhattan.  They way some of you guys want to orientate Cornelius' map it would have Taylor riding along the shore of Long Island at the end, but he wouldn't come across the Statue of Liberty that way.

 

Not necessarily.  We are due for a polar shift.  No reason why a

nuclear war couldn't initiate that.  Also if the statue were was

blasted away there's no reason it should be on Ellis Island.

True, it's unlikely that a blast that could move it al the way

to the shore and not have destroyed it completely.  But

It's possible that it could have blown it in two and left

the top sticking out of the sand.  If a tornado can

put a baby in a tree without waking it, or drive

a piece of straw through a telephone pole

I don't see why it couldn't be done.

 

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In a message dated 5/15/2005 11:26:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

I've been aware that the image of a half-buried Statue of Liberty was on at least a couple pulp SF magazine covers years before PLANET came out in 1968.

 

We only assume it's half-buried. It could have been blasted

away from it's base, and only a small portion is in the sand.

It is hollow.  Just a think copper skin put over a metal frame.

There might be solid rock just under the sand on the beach.

 

 

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In a message dated 5/17/2005 3:00:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

Just a think

Should be, thin.

I have stupid finger . . .

Or they're so smart I don't know what they're up to.

I thin.

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Today is a big day in POTA history. It is the 42nd Anniversary of Pierre Boulle's original novel being published in France.

 

To celebrate this occasion the POTA group (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pota/) has joined forces with the Friend & Fugitive group (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/friends_and_fugitives/) and several POTA webmasters to bring you a special anniversary contest.

 

The grand prize is a copy of the 35th Anniversary POTA DVD,

an ANSA astronaut patch

and either the current or next issue of Simian Scrolls (winner's choice).

 

Now what do you have to do to win? It very simple. Just explore these five POTA websites:

 

Hunter' POTA Archive:  http://www.goatley.com/pota/

 

The Friends & Fugitives Tribute site: http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~pdownes/potatv/potatv.html"

 

POTA International Fan Club site: http://www.hoknes.com/apes.htm

 

Kass' POTA TV Series site: http://planetoftheapestv.150m.com/

 

POTA Group Mirror site: http://www.freewebs.com/planetoftheapes/

 

Somewhere on each of these sites you'll find this icon:

http://www.freewebs.com/planetoftheapes2/Contest.gif

 

Just click on it to go to a special page with a quote from the novel. The first person to post all five quotes with the website it was linked to wins the contest.

 

To avoid confusion post in this format:

 

Quote 1: "Get your stinking paws off me" Site: www.pota.com

Quote 2: "You damned dirty ape" Site: www.apecity.com

 

The above is for example only.

 

This contest is open to everyone so the Quotes & Sites can be posted here or in any other POTA group and the first person to do so is the winner.

 

Good luck everyone.

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This is the icon. Hope it comes through this time.

 

http://www.freewebs.com/planetoftheapes2/Contest.gif

 

<.html

I agree. I think what we see of the statue is just it's top half that
wound up in that place.
I just can't see the landscape shifting THAT much to half bury the
Statue.

-Ray
www.rayalma.com

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> Not necessarily. We are due for a polar shift. No reason why a
> nuclear war couldn't initiate that. Also if the statue were was
> blasted away there's no reason it should be on Ellis Island.
> True, it's unlikely that a blast that could move it al the way
> to the shore and not have destroyed it completely. But
> It's possible that it could have blown it in two and left
> the top sticking out of the sand.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, JamesA1102@a... wrote:

Today is a big day in POTA history. It is the 42nd Anniversary of
Pierre
Boulle's original novel being published in France.

To celebrate this occasion the POTA group
(_http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pota/_
(http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pota/) ) has joined forces
with the Friend & Fugitive group
(_http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/friends_and_fugitives/_
(http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/friends_and_fugitives/)
) and several POTA webmasters to bring you a special anniversary
contest.

The grand prize is a copy of the 35th Anniversary POTA DVD,
an ANSA astronaut patch

and either the current or next issue of Simian Scrolls (winner's
choice).


Now what do you have to do to win? It very simple. Just explore
these five
POTA websites:

Hunter' POTA Archive: _http://www.goatley.com/pota/_
(http://www.goatley.com/pota/)

The Friends & Fugitives Tribute site:
_http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~pdownes/potatv/potatv.html
(http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~pdownes/potatv/potatv.html

POTA International Fan Club site: _http://www.hoknes.com/apes.htm_
(http://www.hoknes.com/apes.htm)

Kass' POTA TV Series site: _http://planetoftheapestv.150m.com/_
(http://planetoftheapestv.150m.com/)

POTA Group Mirror site: _http://www.freewebs.com/planetoftheapes/_
(http://www.freewebs.com/planetoftheapes/)

Somewhere on each of these sites you'll find this icon:

_http://www.freewebs.com/planetoftheapes2/Contest.gif_
(http://www.freewebs.com/planetoftheapes2/Contest.gif)

Just click on it to go to a special page with a quote from the
novel. The
first person to post all five quotes with the website it was linked
to wins the
contest.

To avoid confusion post in this format:

Quote 1: "Get your stinking paws off me" Site: www.pota.com
Quote 2: "You damned dirty ape" Site: www.apecity.com

The above is for example only.

This contest is open to everyone so the Quotes & Sites can be
posted here or
in any other POTA group and the first person to do so is the winner.

Good luck everyone.

Contest Quote 1:

 

"Illustrious President, Noble Gorillas, Learned Orangutans, Wise Chimpanzees, Apes!"

Site: http://www.goatley.com/pota/ ____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Contest Quote 2:

 

Stretching my arms out toward him, I spoke up to the best of my ability: "Mi Zaius."

 

Site: http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~pdownes/potatv/potatv.html"

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________

Contest Quote 3:

 

While' stroking Zira's arm by way of expressing my thanks, I snatched away her notebook and fountain pen.

 

site: http://planetoftheapestv.150m.com/

____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Contest Quote 4:

 

"Dr. Cornelius of the Academy," she said. "Ulysse Merou, an inhabitant of the solar system or, to be more precise, the Earth."

 

Site: http://www.hoknes.com/apes.htm

______________________________________________________________________________________________________

Contest Quote 5

 

He is a gorilla.

 

Site: http://www.freewebs.com/planetoftheapes/

Wow Good work Helen. This has to be our shortest contest ever. Never
thought anyone would find all those links so quickly.

I hope everyone still takes the opportunity to check out all these
great POTA websites and what they have to offer.

And again Congratulations Helen.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Helen <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> Oops. Sorry 'bout that. Try again?
>
> Helen
>
>
>
> Contest Quote 1:
>
>
>
> "Illustrious President, Noble Gorillas, Learned Orangutans, Wise
Chimpanzees, Apes!"
>
> Site: http://www.goatley.com/pota/
_________ _________ _________ _________

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:

> Wow Good work Helen. This has to be our shortest contest ever. Never
> thought anyone would find all those links so quickly.

I demand a re-count! :0)

Dave

Thank you very much! It was actually pretty hard to find all the
quotes! I was going to hold back a bit before posting, but figured
I'd miss out!!! I've wanted one of those ANSA patches for a L-O-N-G
time. (I tried for one during the TV Series contest, but didn't
make it!)

I'm amazed at the POTA material that is available out there! There
is a lot of stuff on those sites, and it isn't all just repeats of
everyone else's stuff. The sites have personality!

Anyway... thanks to all involved in the contest! It was
enlightening and lots of fun!

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> Wow Good work Helen. This has to be our shortest contest ever.
Never
> thought anyone would find all those links so quickly.
>
> I hope everyone still takes the opportunity to check out all these
> great POTA websites and what they have to offer.
>
> And again Congratulations Helen.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Helen <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> > Oops. Sorry 'bout that. Try again?
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> >
> > Contest Quote 1:
> >
> >
> >
> > "Illustrious President, Noble Gorillas, Learned Orangutans, Wise
> Chimpanzees, Apes!"
> >
> > Site: http://www.goatley.com/pota/
>
_________ _________ _________ _________

But.. but.. but..

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> > Wow Good work Helen. This has to be our shortest contest ever.
Never
> > thought anyone would find all those links so quickly.
>
> I demand a re-count! :0)
>
> Dave

Well, according to the Final Draft script:

"Half-buried in the sand and washed by the waves is the Statue of
Liberty."...It doesn't say "top half", "remains of" or anything to
suggest it is any less than the whole statue, half-buried...It is not too far-
fetched to suppose that the island the Statue of Liberty is on is now
part of the mainland, and in the shifting of the earth and silt, it
gets half-buried...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 5/15/2005 11:26:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> Haristas@a... writes:
>
> I've been aware that the image of a half-buried Statue of Liberty
was on at
> least a couple pulp SF magazine covers years before PLANET came out
in 1968.
>
>
>
> We only assume it's half-buried. It could have been blasted
> away from it's base, and only a small portion is in the sand.
> It is hollow. Just a think copper skin put over a metal frame.
> There might be solid rock just under the sand on the beach.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:

> Marvel UK issue 31, featuring the first two chapters of Kingdom on an Island

of the Apes, is now available to download from Hunter's site. Thrill to the
adventures of Derek Zane, a man who traveled to the future without the aid of
an ANSA spacecraft (even though he still managed to crash when he arrived).

Thanks Greg, Are you making up those taglines? ("thrill to the adventures").

I thought 'Kingdom' began well as one of the better original comic strips. Rico
Rival was never my favourite artist but the story had me hooked - right up until
that armoured ape appears on horseback! (Why?)

But back then, after the toe-punt in the gonads that was Apeslayer, even King
Arthurian knight-apes were a welcome change.

Dave

Well we've talked about and now it is happening. Several NYC fans will
be getting together on Saturday May 28th.

We'll be meeting at 10:15AM at Grand Central and on the agenda for the
day is visits to Jim Hanley's, Forbidden Planet, and St. Mark's as well
as a viewing of Episode III at one of the fine theaters on the isle of
Manhattan.

If you live in NYC or vicinity and am interested in joining us please
email me privately for more details.

Thanks Greg, Are you making up those taglines? ("thrill to the adventures").

I thought 'Kingdom' began well as one of the better original comic strips. Rico
Rival was never my favourite artist but the story had me hooked - right up until
that armoured ape appears on horseback! (Why?)

But back then, after the toe-punt in the gonads that was Apeslayer, even King
Arthurian knight-apes were a welcome change.

Dave

D'OH! I'm gonna be out of town that day! >:(
Of all the rotten luck.

If you guys head downtown to St.Mark's, then you should swing by a
store on 2nd Ave. called Toy Tokyo :
http://www.toytokyo.com/about.php
It's a pretty cool store. In the past they've had a lot of POTA related
merchandise, such as the 12" "Rebel Ape", Medicom 6" figures and those
small Kubrick toys (which I personally don't like too much). I even
picked up a small POTA wind up toy there once.

Also, a little East of there is Village Comics -214 Sullivan St.,
212-777-2770. Lots of great toys and models on display.

I hope your day is a huge success so that you guys plan another one.
Have a great time!

-Ray
www.RayAlma.com

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> Well we've talked about and now it is happening. Several NYC fans will
> be getting together on Saturday May 28th.
>
> We'll be meeting at 10:15AM at Grand Central and on the agenda for the
> day is visits to Jim Hanley's, Forbidden Planet, and St. Mark's as
well
> as a viewing of Episode III at one of the fine theaters on the isle of
> Manhattan.
>
> If you live in NYC or vicinity and am interested in joining us please
> email me privately for more details.

That's the spirit, Greg! **pom poms**

(By the way, I never considered your announcements dull!)

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> Yes, I'm just having a little fun with the announcements. It was
starting to get a little dull just saying "Issue XX is now available
for download" every week.
>
> Greg
>
> Dave B <dave@4...> wrote:
> Thanks Greg, Are you making up those taglines? ("thrill to the
adventures").

Well, according to the Final Draft script:

"Half-buried in the sand and washed by the waves is the Statue of
Liberty."...It doesn't say "top half", "remains of" or anything to
suggest it is any less than the whole statue, half-buried...It is not too far-
fetched to suppose that the island the Statue of Liberty is on is now
part of the mainland, and in the shifting of the earth and silt, it
gets half-buried...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 5/15/2005 11:26:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
> Haristas@a... writes:
>
> I've  been aware that the image of a half-buried Statue of Liberty
was on at
> least a  couple pulp SF magazine covers years before PLANET came out
in  1968.
>
>
> 
> We only assume it's half-buried. It could have been blasted
> away from it's base, and only a small portion is in the sand.
> It is hollow.  Just a think copper skin put over a metal frame.
> There might be solid rock just under the sand on the beach.






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Caesar's track record in Battle is pretty awful---he institutionalises
a form of slavery, ignoring the lessons of the past, he invades the
human city, he turns a blind eye when his military wing siezes control
and he executes a fellow Ape in contravention of his own sacred laws.He
compels his people to be educated as he sees fit and he asserts a
unilateral form of government which amounts to an absolute
monarchy.He's actually a difficult guy to like ans without Lisa's voice
of reason would be a monster. Am I too harsh? John, Scrolls.

You'd probably like him more if you were a chimp.

Seriously, the version we get in the movie was far more watered down and
cuddly than the Caligula-like basket case in Dehn's original treatment.

Dave

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@m...> wrote:
> Caesar's track record in Battle is pretty awful---he institutionalises
> a form of slavery, ignoring the lessons of the past, he invades the
> human city, he turns a blind eye when his military wing siezes control
> and he executes a fellow Ape in contravention of his own sacred laws.He
> compels his people to be educated as he sees fit and he asserts a
> unilateral form of government which amounts to an absolute
> monarchy.He's actually a difficult guy to like ans without Lisa's voice
> of reason would be a monster. Am I too harsh? John, Scrolls.

I agree that Dehn's vision is not the Caesar we get in the movie, but
if you judge a chimp by his actions, Caesar aint no Galen.He only
releases the humasns at the end because of necessity---the City is
trashed and he needs humans.I think the Conquest Caesar is an angry, at
times homicidal ape, but still is a nicer chap!John, Scrolls.

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Escape premiered this day in 1971� �

Date: Saturday, May 21, 2005
Time: All Day

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Escape premiered this day in 1971� �

Date: Saturday, May 21, 2005
Time: All Day

Attachments :

.html Interesting observations about Caesar. He does seem to be kinder to humans though, evidenced when he doesn't let the gorillas harm the teacher earlier in the movie. As a ruler, Caesar has no role model or predecessor to follow. If Aldo had killed someone else besides his son, he might have felt differently and not executed him. Elaine <.html

Special thanks to both Elaine and Glen for the text and artwork for
this week's lesson.

You can access the lesson by clicking the banner on the home page or directly with this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm

It had been available since yesterday, I just neglected to make the
announcement.

I see Caesar as a benevolent despot. He does consult the citizens
after visiting the Forbidden City. Also he doesn't stay in power by
force. He rules at the will of the people or the will of his fellow
apes. He doesn't seem to have a bodyguard or secret police force as
most dictators do.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@m...> wrote:
> Caesar's track record in Battle is pretty awful---he
institutionalises
> a form of slavery, ignoring the lessons of the past, he invades
the
> human city, he turns a blind eye when his military wing siezes
control
> and he executes a fellow Ape in contravention of his own sacred
laws.He
> compels his people to be educated as he sees fit and he asserts a
> unilateral form of government which amounts to an absolute
> monarchy.He's actually a difficult guy to like ans without Lisa's
voice
> of reason would be a monster. Am I too harsh? John, Scrolls.

And to celebrate Escape's 34th Anniversary the Yahoo home page features
a rare newspaper ad from the films original release.
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.
>
> Escape premiered this day in 1971
>
> Date: Saturday, May 21, 2005
> Time: All Day

Thanks for passing this on Rory. I had wondered what it had to do with
POTA until I saw that Corden had provide the voice of Urko in the
Cartoon Series.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
>
>
> Henry Corden, the voice of cartoon caveman Fred
> Flintstone's "Yabba-dabba-doo!" for more than two
> decades, has died. He was 85.
>
>
> Dierna note:
> Besides Fred Flinstone he also did voices in other
> shows here is a list:
>
> Return to the Planet of the Apes (He was General Urko)

Another great set of cards. Thanks again you, Kass and Neil for your
efforts.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> The third in a series of Topps-style card sets for the sequel films
is now on Hunter's site. This set celebrates Conquest of the Planet of
the Apes. Once again a big thanks to Neil Foster for the art on the
wrapper and the card backs. Thanks also to Kassidy Rae for her help
with the text on the card backs.
>
> As with the previous two sets for Beneath and Escape, there are low-
res files that you can view and there are hi-res files that you can
download and print using a photo-quality printer to make your own card
set the next time Craft Day rolls around.
>
> http://www.goatley.com/pota/
>
> Thanks,
> Greg

One thing that always confused me with this story, did Zane arrive
before or after Taylor. He set his time machine to the year 3975 but
the ship's clock in Planet said 3978. Yet in the story there are
indications that Taylor had already been there.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> Marvel UK issue 31, featuring the first two chapters of Kingdom on an
Island of the Apes, is now available to download from Hunter's site.
Thrill to the adventures of Derek Zane, a man who traveled to the
future without the aid of an ANSA spacecraft (even though he still
managed to crash when he arrived). No space for articles this week in
order to accommodate the double-length allotment of Kingdom, but there
is a letter column.
>
> Just four more weeks until we get to the adaptation of Beneath in
issue 35.
>
> http://www.goatley.com/pota/
>
> Greg

.html I too see Caesar as a benevolent dictator. He doesn't slaughter humans or use them in experiments. Elaine<.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/21/2005 10:37:32 AM Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

He set his time machine to the year 3975 but the ship's clock in Planet said 3978.

At least 3975 is closer to the correct date of 3978.. Maybe they got confused on it, or decided to cross the dates, OR they were using the 3955 date as their date for Taylor's having been there and they tacked on 20 years (and conveniently forgot the film BENEATH...)

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.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/21/2005 12:58:58 PM Central Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:

I too see Caesar as a benevolent dictator. He doesn't slaughter humans or use them in experiments.

In the novel of BATTLE, he is a bit closer to the way he was in CONQUEST... Rather than telling the apes to "take them (the mutants) prisoner", he tells them to "Kill them, defend your city"... He doesn't slaughter them in the film, but he calls on them to be killed in the book (which is better than the film)...

<.html <.html

These are amazing! Many thanks to Greg and Neil and Kass and to
Hunter for hosting these for us. I'm really hoping to find a
sensible way to print these out (for Craft Day)! ;)

Very cool!

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> The third in a series of Topps-style card sets for the sequel
films is now on Hunter's site. This set celebrates Conquest of the
Planet of the Apes. Once again a big thanks to Neil Foster for the
art on the wrapper and the card backs. Thanks also to Kassidy Rae
for her help with the text on the card backs.
>
> As with the previous two sets for Beneath and Escape, there are
low-res files that you can view and there are hi-res files that you
can download and print using a photo-quality printer to make your
own card set the next time Craft Day rolls around.
>
> http://www.goatley.com/pota/
>
> Thanks,
> Greg

James, I know the New York get together will be fun.Dave Ballard, Alan
Maxwell and me have got together the last couple of years at the annual
Bristol comics convention and shared a coffee, chatted about Apes and
bitched about things we like to bitch about. It's really a buzz to meet
other fans and it's like drinking at the well of enthusiasm again---
telphones, emails and faxes just can't beat the fun of actually meeting
up in person.Maybe we can have an Apes World Con someday folks? Have
fun guys! John, Scrolls.PS,I trust you'll be posting photos outside
appropriate Ape landmarks!?

Yep,I'd agree the book is better than the film of Battle, Cougar.I
think the film fell between a nuclear horror story and a family movie,
two trhings that were never going to mix.I think, looking back, Caesar
was always a violent type---the electrocution of the guard is a bit
unbalanced. His dad had a violent streak--he manages to kill two humans
during his trip to the past.I think the ultimate test for Caesar would
be would Armando have been proud of his boy's actions. I don't think he
would.John, Scrolls.

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I bought the DVD for Journey To The Center Of The Earth

when the price dropped.  In the extras there's a thing called

Fox Flicks.  It's a collection of trailers.  One Million BC,

The Day The Earth stood still, etc . . . It also has a new

trailer for the POTA DVDs.  As well as POTA2K1. Looking

back I can see how we got sucked into that one.  They

may have not had enough good scenes for a good movie,

but it makes a damned fine trailer.

 

 

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.html I am enjoying these cards which I do not have in my collection. I notice that the expresson on Caesar's face changes. Great acting by Roddy. Thanks, Greg! Elaine<.html

.html Knowing what we know today about chimps, then we could say Caesar is a real chimp. We now know that chimps can be extremely violent. Elaine<.html

With the upcoming POTA NYC fan get together coming up, I was reminded
of another POTA related attraction in the NYC area.
Although not related to any of the movies, it may be of interest to
NYC apes fans to know about "The Planet of the Apes Fountain".
This non-descript fountain, has, as far as I know, no real connection
to POTA in any way other than it's name. It's located in Queens in
Flushing Meadow/Corona Park (site of the old World Fair)near the
Queens Zoo.
Next to this fountain is an official parks department sign that
reads "Planet of the Apes Fountain". I have no idea what the story is
regarding this unusual tribute to POTA. I can only assume that there
was a zoo/ape connection somehow. The funny thing is that there are
NO apes in that zoo, nor do I think there ever was.

The only mention I could find of it online was this:
http://www.letsgo.com/NYC/04-Sights-637

I've emailed the parks department asking them for a little background
on this. If they respond, then I'll post their reply.

-Ray
Humorous Illustration:
www.rayalma.com

.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/22/05 11:04:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

I bought the DVD for Journey To The Center Of The Earth
when the price dropped.

T, you're one of the cheapest people I know on the web!  The damn DVD was only around $15 when it first came out!  What did you hold out for?  $7.00?

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/22/05 11:44:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ursus3978@... writes:

With the upcoming POTA NYC fan get together coming up, I was reminded
of another POTA related attraction in the NYC area.
Although not related to any of the movies, it may be of interest to
NYC apes fans to know about "The Planet of the Apes Fountain".
This non-descript fountain, has, as far as I know, no real connection
to POTA in any way other than it's name. It's located in Queens in
Flushing Meadow/Corona Park (site of the old World Fair)near the
Queens Zoo.
Next to this fountain is an official parks department sign that
reads "Planet of the Apes Fountain". I have no idea what the story is
regarding this unusual tribute to POTA. I can only assume that there
was a zoo/ape connection somehow. The funny thing is that there are
NO apes in that zoo, nor do I think there ever was.

The only mention I could find of it online was this:
http://www.letsgo.com/NYC/04-Sights-637

Doesn't sound like a very nice place, but it's interesting that someone named this fountain after APES.  Is there anyone who can get out there, take a photo of it and post it here?

-- Rory<.html <.html

Ray,

This is fascinating. You aren't the only one who has heard of
this. I did a Yahoo! search of the "Planet of the Apes Fountain,
Queens" and got some sort of interesting results. I didn't find the
answer to "why" it was named as it was, but there were some thoughts
about its appropriateness.

I'm looking for a picture. Am I right that it is a "Minor" planet
fountain -- the satellite of a larger planet fountain?

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <ursus3978@a...> wrote:
> With the upcoming POTA NYC fan get together coming up, I was
reminded
> of another POTA related attraction in the NYC area.
> Although not related to any of the movies, it may be of interest
to
> NYC apes fans to know about "The Planet of the Apes Fountain".
> This non-descript fountain, has, as far as I know, no real
connection
> to POTA in any way other than it's name. It's located in Queens in
> Flushing Meadow/Corona Park (site of the old World Fair)near the
> Queens Zoo.
> Next to this fountain is an official parks department sign that
> reads "Planet of the Apes Fountain". I have no idea what the story
is
> regarding this unusual tribute to POTA. I can only assume that
there
> was a zoo/ape connection somehow. The funny thing is that there
are
> NO apes in that zoo, nor do I think there ever was.
>
> The only mention I could find of it online was this:
> http://www.letsgo.com/NYC/04-Sights-637
>
> I've emailed the parks department asking them for a little
background
> on this. If they respond, then I'll post their reply.
>
> -Ray
> Humorous Illustration:
> www.rayalma.com