.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/22/05 12:15:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

This is fascinating.  You aren't the only one who has heard of
this.  I did a Yahoo! search of the "Planet of the Apes Fountain,
Queens" and got some sort of interesting results.  I didn't find the
answer to "why" it was named as it was, but there were some thoughts
about its appropriateness.

I'm looking for a picture.  Am I right that it is a "Minor" planet
fountain -- the satellite of a larger planet fountain?

Helen

I found this in a google search:

http://www.libronaut.com/archives/2002_11.htmlbr>
-- Rory

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The June 2005 calendar is now available for download in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Calendars/Jun2005.jpg

 

There are several birthdays and anniversaries in June including the anniversary of Battle's premiere, so the theme for the month is Battle:

 

 

Remember that there is also a great year long POTA calendar by Rory available http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Calendars/POTA-Cal.jpg

and a great calendar available in the Misc. section of Hunter's site http://www.goatley.com/pota/

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Yes, Helen, the POTA Fountain is a small fountain. The big "Planet"
fountain in the park is around the huge metal Unisphere. That's in
another part of the park.
I didn't think that the "planet" part of the name would be that
significant, but based on info from Harrista that there is another
fountain in the park called "Planet of the Grapes of Wrath", I'm
thinking that someone in the NYC Parks dept. had some weird sense of
humor related to naming fountains!
God, New York is weird.
That's why I love it. :)

-Ray
Humorous Illustration:
www.rayalma.com

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> Ray,
>
> This is fascinating. You aren't the only one who has heard of
> this. I did a Yahoo! search of the "Planet of the Apes Fountain,
> Queens" and got some sort of interesting results. I didn't find
the
> answer to "why" it was named as it was, but there were some
thoughts
> about its appropriateness.
>
> I'm looking for a picture. Am I right that it is a "Minor" planet
> fountain -- the satellite of a larger planet fountain?
>
> Helen
>
>

The June 2005 calendar is now available for download in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Calendars/Jun2005.jpg

 

There are several birthdays and anniversaries in June including the anniversary of Battle's premiere, so the theme for the month is Battle:

 

 

Remember that there is also a great year long POTA calendar by Rory available http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Calendars/POTA-Cal.jpg

and a great calendar available in the Misc. section of Hunter's site http://www.goatley.com/pota/

Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more...

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> I bought the DVD for Journey To The Center Of The Earth
> when the price dropped.

You mean the James Mason/Arlene Dahl version, I hope...That is a
classic movie, one of my favorites, that I happened to see when it came
out in the theater...
-- Now, my age is showing!...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/22/05 12:15:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:

> > This is fascinating. You aren't the only one who has heard of
> > this. I did a Yahoo! search of the "Planet of the Apes Fountain,
> > Queens" and got some sort of interesting results. I didn't find

the

> > answer to "why" it was named as it was, but there were some

thoughts

> > about its appropriateness.
> >
> > I'm looking for a picture. Am I right that it is a "Minor"

planet

> > fountain -- the satellite of a larger planet fountain?
> >
> > Helen
> >
>
> I found this in a google search:
>
> http://www.libronaut.com/archives/2002_11.html"
>
> -- Rory

Helen,

Rory's article says:
"Remaining, however, are the Fountain of the Planets, and its smaller
and more specific cousins, the Fountain of the Planet of the Apes,
and the Fountain of the Planet of the Grapes of Wrath."

G

At the risk of being considered a dweeb, which maybe I am but I
seriously doubt it, I wrote to Libranaut to ask him what he knows
about this. I don't expect to ever get a reply, but I thought it
worth the post.

Peace.

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> > In a message dated 5/22/05 12:15:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
> > > This is fascinating. You aren't the only one who has heard of
> > > this. I did a Yahoo! search of the "Planet of the Apes
Fountain,
> > > Queens" and got some sort of interesting results. I didn't
find
> the
> > > answer to "why" it was named as it was, but there were some
> thoughts
> > > about its appropriateness.
> > >
> > > I'm looking for a picture. Am I right that it is a "Minor"
> planet
> > > fountain -- the satellite of a larger planet fountain?
> > >
> > > Helen
> > >
> >
> > I found this in a google search:
> >
> > http://www.libronaut.com/archives/2002_11.html"
> >
> > -- Rory
>
> Helen,
>
> Rory's article says:
> "Remaining, however, are the Fountain of the Planets, and its
smaller
> and more specific cousins, the Fountain of the Planet of the Apes,
> and the Fountain of the Planet of the Grapes of Wrath."
>
> G

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> I bought the DVD for Journey To The Center Of The Earth
> when the price dropped. 

You mean the James Mason/Arlene Dahl version, I hope...That is a
classic movie, one of my favorites, that I happened to see when it came
out in the theater...
-- Now, my age is showing!...=)

G

G, you saw it when it originally came out in December of 1959?  Or maybe you saw it in early 1960?  Anyway, what are your remembrances of it?  I have a friend in Australia (not named Whitty) who's a major fan.  We met on the web because it's his favorite film and we're both film music buffs and of course JOURNEY's score by Bernard Herrmann is a classic.

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In a message dated 5/22/2005 10:44:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, ursus3978@... writes:

I've emailed the parks department asking them for a little background
on this. If they respond, then I'll post their reply.

 

If they're less then helpful try the New York Library.

They were able to confirm that Kim Hunter Street was

indeed named after Kim.  What's weird is there are two

streets here that intersect, Kim & Hunter. Can someone

in New York get some picture of the fountain?  I wonder

if Kim used that fountain when she was studying apes.

 

 

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In a message dated 5/22/2005 10:44:15 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

T, you're one of the cheapest people I know on the web!  The damn DVD was only around $15 when it first came out!  What did you hold out for?  $7.00?

 

You mean one of the poorest!

You try living on what I get!

Since going back to school

I don't have much fundage.

 

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In a message dated 5/22/2005 11:15:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

"Planet of the Apes Fountain, Queens"

Queens?

I thought the zoo was in the Bronx!

 

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In a message dated 5/22/2005 4:14:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, ursus3978@... writes:

fountain in the park called "Planet of the Grapes of Wrath",

I found a site that hat it.  It combines two different stories into one.

 

THE POCKET INTERNET - Email Humor

 

But this has 3 three stories in one!

 

 

 

New On DVD
The Planet Of The Grapes Of Wrath Of Kahn
Starring Charlton Heston, Henry Fonda, William Shatner, Mark Wahlberg, Haley Joel Osment, and Ricardo Montelban
     A young man, just released from prison teams up with a genetically altered superhuman to fight the apes who rule a planet where grapes can be grown for fine intergalactic wine.
     You remember the movie, and if you loved it as so many people did, then you don't want to miss the DVD.
     Director Alan Smithee has assembled most of the stars (Jane Fonda subs for her departed Dad), includes four hours and seventeen minutes of footage not seen in the original 87 minute production, and includes actual news footage and a re-enactment of critical scenes from the trial.
     Also not to be missed is the thirty-two minute animated sequence showing the growing of a grape from the grape's point of view.
     Noted at the time, it is important to recall the remarkable performance of Osment as the young Wahlberg, and Wahlberg as the young Heston. It is all the more remarkable to remember that Heston was young once.
     Of course Heston and Fonda stand out, but the extra footage contains a much more crafty performance from Shatner, most of which was cut when the film was initially released.
     Although some of the special effects may seem primitive today, like the use of animated lizards in place of real dinosaurs, and what is clearly, at one point, a man pretending to be Sasquatch, the power of the story and the clever repartee in the dialogue, especially between Montelban and the uncredited Ursula Andress and a very young Denis Leary, more than makes up for it.
     And the cameo of Michael Caine, reprising his role as Harry Palmer, is explained in the additional footage.
     But even without the additional four hours and seventeen minutes, the film still holds up as one of the classics, back when movies meant something.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> Since going back to school
> I don't have much fundage.

What do you study?...What's your major?...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:

> G, you saw it when it originally came out in December of 1959? Or

maybe you

> saw it in early 1960? Anyway, what are your remembrances of it? I

have a

> friend in Australia (not named Whitty) who's a major fan. We met

on the web

> because it's his favorite film and we're both film music buffs and

of course

> JOURNEY's score by Bernard Herrmann is a classic.
>
> -- Rory

I saw it in the early 1960's...I was very into dinosaurs, so the
scene where they battle the dimetrodons on the shores of
the "Saknussum Ocean" is what was most lasting a memory for me...
The movie so impressed me that I read the book by Jules Verne when I
was around eleven years old...
Yes, the score is a classic -- dramatic and intense, IMHO...

G

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In a message dated 5/22/2005 8:19:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

JOURNEY's score by Bernard Herrmann is a classic.

 

I still get chills from that orchestra hit

when the light goes through Sklutares (sp?)

 

 

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In a message dated 5/22/2005 5:36:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

You mean the James Mason/Arlene Dahl version, I hope...That is a
classic movie, one of my favorites, that I happened to see when it came
out in the theater...

That was a couple years before I was born.

But it's always been a fave of mine.  Anything

on a mountain, or under it.  Some other's being

The Mountain, Third Man on the Mountain,

The Mole People, etc . . . Or underwater,

Like 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, or in an

airship, like Master of the World.  

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In a message dated 5/22/2005 9:54:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

What do you study?...What's your major?...

 

Film. 

What else . . . right?  ; )

Actually the Uni I attend

has no separate film school.

So I'm in RTVF.

Radio, Television & Film.

 

 

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I have posted a pic of the actual fountain in the rkid's photo folder.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <ursus3978@a...> wrote:
> With the upcoming POTA NYC fan get together coming up, I was reminded
> of another POTA related attraction in the NYC area.
> Although not related to any of the movies, it may be of interest to
> NYC apes fans to know about "The Planet of the Apes Fountain".

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Another nice calendar, James. I have to say the last few have been particularly impressive. The Battle one-sheet is my least favorite of the five films, but I like what you've done here by changing out the background.

 

Greg

JamesA1102@... wrote:

The June 2005 calendar is now available for download in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Calendars/Jun2005.jpg

 

There are several birthdays and anniversaries in June including the anniversary of Battle's premiere, so the theme for the month is Battle:

 

 

Remember that there is also a great year long POTA calendar by Rory available http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Calendars/POTA-Cal.jpg

and a great calendar available in the Misc. section of Hunter's site http://www.goatley.com/pota/

Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more...

Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more...

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    Yes, thanks for the calendar.  It's great that James, Rory and I think Greg have created

    calendars. I notice that before Christmas when the stores sell all kinds of calendars,

    that are not any pota calendars(with the exception of pota 2001). Elaine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> That was a couple years before I was born.
> But it's always been a fave of mine. Anything
> on a mountain, or under it. Some other's being
>
> The Mountain, Third Man on the Mountain,
> The Mole People, etc . . . Or underwater,
> Like 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, or in an
> airship, like Master of the World.

I luv pretty much anything that Hollywood's done with Jules Verne's
books..."20,000 Leagues Under the Sea", the "Mysterious Island", "Robur
the Conquerer", "From the Earth to the Moon" (luv those "Selenites")...

As for the "Mole People" -- I luv '50s sci-fi!...The "Creature From the
Black Lagoon" is an all time fav of mine...
The best was "Dinosaurus", which I also saw in the theater...It's the
original "Jurassic Park"...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 5/22/2005 8:19:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> Haristas@a... writes:
>
> JOURNEY's score by Bernard Herrmann is a classic.
>
>
>
>
> I still get chills from that orchestra hit
> when the light goes through Sklutares (sp?)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 5/22/2005 9:54:44 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> HotScheetz@a... writes:
>
> What do you study?...What's your major?...
>
>
>
>
> Film.
> What else . . . right? ; )
> Actually the Uni I attend
> has no separate film school.
> So I'm in RTVF.
> Radio, Television & Film.

Great!...How far are you from completion?...Are you looking at
directing, or what?...

G

The NYC area has 4 zoos.
The Bronx zoo is the biggest. There is a Queens zoo that is smaller
but not bad. There is a zoo in Manhattan, in Central Park. That is
very small but very nice. Brooklyn also has a zoo in Prospect Park.
I've never been there.
All of the zoos are run by the Wildlife Conservation Society.
There is also a pretty good Aquarium in Brooklyn.
New York is very "wild".
;)

-Ray

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 5/22/2005 11:15:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
> "Planet of the Apes Fountain, Queens"
>
>
> Queens?
> I thought the zoo was in the Bronx!

Has someone been playing around with Photoshop? Hmm?
I wish the fountain that I remember looked that good.
Nice job.

-Ray

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
> I have posted a pic of the actual fountain in the rkid's photo folder.
>

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In a message dated 5/23/2005 12:06:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

Great!...How far are you from completion?...Are you looking at
directing, or what?...

I'm about a year away.

I will direct if I have to,

but I don't like it much.

Too much work involved.

But if I was one of those

Hollywood types I guess

I'd have a team of people

working out all the details.

 

 

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In a message dated 5/23/2005 12:05:53 A.M. Central Standard Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

As for the "Mole People" -- I luv '50s sci-fi!...The "Creature From the
Black Lagoon" is an all time fav of mine...

 

It's at the top of my B&W Under water list!

Great music as well!

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Thanks Greg. From you I consider this high praise. Of course, unlike
the previous months which were all thought out and planned in advance,
this month was a very quickie job on my part after I woke up on
Saturday and realized 'oh crap, I forgot to do the calendar'. Maybe
from now on I should wait until the last minute for inspiration;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> Another nice calendar, James. I have to say the last few have been
particularly impressive. The Battle one-sheet is my least favorite of
the five films, but I like what you've done here by changing out the
background.
>
> Greg
>

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I didn't create the calendar that's available on Hunter's site. That's the work of John O. I did a few of the screen grabs for him but that was it. The idea, design and execution were all John's.

 

Greg

taebokitti@... wrote:

    Yes, thanks for the calendar.  It's great that James, Rory and I think Greg have created

    calendars. I notice that before Christmas when the stores sell all kinds of calendars,

    that are not any pota calendars(with the exception of pota 2001). Elaine

 

 

    Thanks to John for creating the calendar. Elaine

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Very funny Mark! At least you have the water coming out of his mouth.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
> I have posted a pic of the actual fountain in the rkid's photo
folder.
>

Oh I have the other version of the water spout too, if you'd like me to juxtapose the
photos. Sort of like the dual function of the carrot on the snowman.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> Very funny Mark! At least you have the water coming out of his mouth.

In a message dated 5/23/2005 12:05:53 A.M. Central Standard Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

As for the "Mole People" -- I luv '50s sci-fi!...The "Creature From the
Black Lagoon" is an all time fav of mine...

 

It's at the top of my B&W Under water list!

Great music as well!

Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more...

http://home.earthlink.net/~thepittbull/

go vegetarian!

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In a message dated 5/23/2005 1:21:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ursus3978@... writes:

The NYC area has 4 zoos.
The Bronx zoo is the biggest. There is a Queens zoo that is smaller
but not bad. There is a zoo in Manhattan, in Central Park. That is
very small but very nice. Brooklyn also has a zoo in Prospect Park.
I've never been there.
All of the zoos are run by the Wildlife Conservation Society.
There is also a pretty good Aquarium in Brooklyn.
New York is very "wild".
;)

-Ray

Ray,

  There's also a Staten Island Zoo but that's not very big either (but nice anyway). Every year I take my daughters to the Brooklyn & Central Park Zoos and this season we've already been to the Aquarium.

 

  Bruce 

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In a message dated 5/23/2005 1:36:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, brindlepit2002@... writes:

also, i had the great privilege of seeing creature in 3D on halloween night back in the late 80s.

 

I didn't know there was a 3-D print.

I know The Return of the Creature

was in 3-D.  It didn't seem the same

to me.  It looked like he was retaining

a lot of fluids.  pun intended.  maybe

it was a different actor or they changed

the suit to accommodate a larger air supply.

 

 

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> I know The Return of the Creature
> was in 3-D. It didn't seem the same
> to me. It looked like he was retaining
> a lot of fluids. pun intended. maybe
> it was a different actor or they changed
> the suit to accommodate a larger air supply.

Are you thinking of "The Creature Walks Among Us"?...That was the one
where he got set on fire, and ended up wearing clothes, and walked off
into the surf in the end...

The "Revenge of the Creature" was the second one, and that's where they
brought him to 'Sea World' in San Diego...

G

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In a message dated 5/23/2005 9:17:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

Are you thinking of "The Creature Walks Among Us"?...That was the one
where he got set on fire, and ended up wearing clothes, and walked off
into the surf in the end...

The "Revenge of the Creature" was the second one, and that's where they
brought him to 'Sea World' in San Diego...

You're right -- I got them mixed up.

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Found this...
http://www.queenscourier.com/oats/archives/oats091400.htm

What's In A Name?

There is one person in this city who can certainly answer that
question — Parks Commissioner Henry Stern has peculiar but witty and
charming habits that he engages in while running one of the largest
city agencies in the city. With thousands of acres of parks (the
most are in Queens), thousands upon thousands of street trees, miles
of oceanfront beaches, scores of city pools, playgrounds, sports
centers — not to mention a veritable army of parks workers all under
his domain, he certainly has a very big job. A very serious job. A
very important job. Because parks are the lungs of the city and he
is their ultimate protector.

He's been doing this job for the entire length of the Giuliani
administration. And he did this job during the 1980's for about the
entire administration of Ed Koch. He is clearly an intelligent man
who is a good administrator. In many ways most of the parks in this
city have never been in better shape. In sheer terms of longevity in
this job, he is second only to the city's first parks commissioner
and master builder, Robert Moses (who held the job from 1936 to
1960).

Now about the quirks mentioned at the beginning of this column.
While Stern is about doing his job, he also goes about amusing
himself, and sometimes makes everyone else shake their heads in
disbelief. First, the tree funerals. Yes, when a large or venerable
old tree is cut down by a tree vandal, he will hold a whole funeral
for the tree on the site of the dastardly deed. For a long time he
brought his dog, Boomer, to work and everywhere else he went. He
would invite people to pet the dog whereupon he would carry a
clicker and keep track of the numbers of people who have pet Boomer.
He wanted Boomer to get into the Guinness Book of Records on being
the most petted dog in the world. Seriously. There are other quirky
but harmless habits.

But he's got this thing with names. Look around the city and you'll
notice that every park and playground has a nice looking wood plaque
identifying the name of the park. Where before you never really knew
the name of your local parks — you do now. Some of these names are
fascinating signposts to a neighborhood's history and geography.
When a park does not have a name, he invents one — sometimes with
wit. (When a big playground was refurbished recently on Yellowstone
Blvd. in Forest Hills, he took delight in re-dedicating it
as "Yellowstone Municipal park," his own version of Yellowstone
National Park. There's a huge old broken fountain in Flushing
Meadows called The Fountain of the Planets, so when a small new
fountain was placed at the entrance to the Queens Zoo, he named
it "Fountain of the Planet of the Apes." A companion fountain he
named "Fountain of the Grapes of Wrath." Don't ask.

Then there's the people names. He names people with clever names
that reflect something about the person's job, or background, or
their real name. He started with himself. ("Starquest," because
Stern in German means star.) Then the mayor becomes "Eagle." Then
everyone on his staff got a name. Then they got a little plaque on a
pin with the name he gave them. And he will refer to all these
people by that new name. He remembers their names and keeps a record
of them all in a big black binder. Estelle Cooper, the assistant
Queens Parks Commissioner who runs Flushing Meadows-Corona park is
named "Unsphere." Our publisher, Victoria Schneps, is "Queen Esther"
(long story). A former editor here was "Copycat." I recently got my
plaque pin. He thought about my last name (Oats) and came up
with "Toasted." And that is what I have named the regular new
column. Each week I will write here about people and events that are
interesting parts of Queens. Some of these people and events (if
they are harmful to our borough) will deserve a real "toasting," as
in roasting. But, hopefully, there are many more people and events
in this county who deserve a toasting as in "here's a toast to you!"
So hope to see you here next week and we invite you to send in your
own suggestions about what you think deserves either roasts or
toasts.

So for this first column, the first toast is to Henry Stern. here's
a toast to you for making the city a greener and more amusing place
to live.

(David Oats is editor-in-chief of The Queens Courier and an
historian and activist on behalf of Flushing Meadows-Corona Park.)

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I wasn't very clear, but in about the middle of the story he is
credited with naming the fountain. In any case, it has a plaque, so
it is identifiable.

Yeah, I liked the dog bit, too. I love eccentric sorts, and his story
sort of ape-pealed to me. I'm trying to get in touch with him. Is
there anyone here from Queens? Does this publication still exist?
(All of my emails addressed to info@... are returned.)

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> Mr. Stern has quite the sense of humor and creativity. It's nice to
know that
> there are people like him out there. I especially like the way he
tried to
> get his dog into the Guiness Book of World records. Elaine

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Where can I get that issue of Simian Scrolls

<.html

The details are in this post.

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/message/31317

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@a... wrote:
> Where can I get that issue of Simian Scrolls

At the risk of repeating information that is probably known, and may
have already been discussed on this board, - I noticed that a green
headed, bug eyed, alien is wearing one of the "Escape" astronaut
costumes in the Cantina scene of the original Star Wars.

This, and the recent appearance of the ANSA, ship board suit on Bruce
Campbell in a sci fi movie make me wonder were else recycled POTA stuff
has appeared outside of the POTA universe?

-Ray
Humorous Illustration:
www.rayalma.com

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Beneath premiered this day in 1970���� ����

Date: Thursday, May 26, 2005
Time: All Day

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

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Date: Thursday, May 26, 2005
Time: All Day

It's 'The Sisterhood of the Traveling Astronaut Pants'. Bad, I know.
I read years ago that POTA gorilla boots were used for Klingon boots in an episode of Star
Trek NG.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <ursus3978@a...> wrote:
> At the risk of repeating information that is probably known, and may
> have already been discussed on this board, - I noticed that a green
> headed, bug eyed, alien is wearing one of the "Escape" astronaut
> costumes in the Cantina scene of the original Star Wars.
>
> This, and the recent appearance of the ANSA, ship board suit on Bruce
> Campbell in a sci fi movie make me wonder were else recycled POTA stuff
> has appeared outside of the POTA universe?
>
> -Ray
> Humorous Illustration:
> www.rayalma.com

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In a message dated 5/25/2005 10:46:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, rkid67@... writes:

It's 'The Sisterhood of the Traveling Astronaut Pants'.  Bad, I know.
I read years ago that POTA gorilla boots were used for Klingon boots in an episode of Star Trek

 

Many of the people who work them are sci-fi fans themselves.

Even the Buckaroo Banzai oscillation overthruster  has been

recycled as a prop on Star Trek.

 

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Happy 35th Anniversary to Beneath. The Yahoo Home page pic is a
newspaper ad that is an interesting variation on the film's poster.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.
>
> Beneath premiered this day in 1970
>
> Date: Thursday, May 26, 2005
> Time: All Day

Happy Birthday Helena. Give Tim our regards;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.
>
> Helena Bonham Carter's Birthday
>
> Date: Thursday, May 26, 2005
> Time: All Day

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In a message dated 5/26/2005 4:11:33 A.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Happy Birthday Helena. Give Tim our regards;-)

Give him a swift kick in the arse for me.

Perhaps it will jog his brain.

 

 

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That's funny. I always thought the Klingon uniforms looked like the
Gorilla outfits.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
> It's 'The Sisterhood of the Traveling Astronaut Pants'. Bad, I know.
> I read years ago that POTA gorilla boots were used for Klingon boots
in an episode of Star
> Trek NG.
>

I'm going to have to watch the original Star Wars again. I never
noticed that.

Off hand I can't think of any recycled POTA stuff used elsewhere. I
can't even remember the sets being used in other productions.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <ursus3978@a...> wrote:
> At the risk of repeating information that is probably known, and may
> have already been discussed on this board, - I noticed that a green
> headed, bug eyed, alien is wearing one of the "Escape" astronaut
> costumes in the Cantina scene of the original Star Wars.
>
> This, and the recent appearance of the ANSA, ship board suit on Bruce
> Campbell in a sci fi movie make me wonder were else recycled POTA
stuff
> has appeared outside of the POTA universe?
>
> -Ray
> Humorous Illustration:
> www.rayalma.com

Thanks Helen. Glad you enjoyed the contest. I hope everyone took the
opportunty to explore all the POTA sites involved.

As far as the issue of Simian Scrolls, it is one of the finest
they've done.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Helen <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> I received the Novel 42nd Anniversary Contest goodies in the mail
today. Many thanks to the sponsors of the contest: Hunter, Terry,
Kass, Mez, and James.
>
> I love the current issue of Simian Scrolls (#10), which is mostly
an Escape issue and a nice sort of tribute to "my obsession", Milo.
>
> 1.) I love the cover.
> 2.) The magazine includes some great artwork.
> 3.) I really like Michael McColm's Milo: Rider from the World's End
> 4.) There are excellent interviews with Jerry Purnelle, Matt
Falls, and Mike Ploog.
> 5.) It includes a complementary copy of The Ape.
> 6.) Lots (!) more stuff... (Check out the Next Generation
artists!)
>
> Oh, yes....
>
> I love the ANSA patch!! Thank you, all.
>
> Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:

> Off hand I can't think of any recycled POTA stuff used elsewhere. I
> can't even remember the sets being used in other productions.

Perhaps the most obvious example was the re-use of Taylor's spacecraft in
the Rod Stieger movie 'The illustrated man' The ship can be seen quite clearly
in one segment with a snazzy new paint job.

I think gorilla uniforms once turned up in an episode (or TV movie) of 'The
wild, wild west'.

And the cockpit seats from Taylor's spacecraft have seen some action in 'Land
of the giants' and 'Babylon 5'.

I'm sure there's more.

Dave

I think there was an episode of Wonder Woman, where she fought a
Gorilla that was trained to kill. I seem to remember (I may be wrong)
that the make up looked just like the Chambers designed appliance
combined with a regular Gorilla suit. It kinda looked like Ursus in the
steam room in Beneath.

-Ray

> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> > Off hand I can't think of any recycled POTA stuff used elsewhere.

The EFTPOTA suits being used in SW is feasible, as they are both 20th
products, but IMHO, it's unlikely the Klingons have anything from POTA
because of different studios...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> That's funny. I always thought the Klingon uniforms looked like the
> Gorilla outfits.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
> > It's 'The Sisterhood of the Traveling Astronaut Pants'. Bad, I
know.
> > I read years ago that POTA gorilla boots were used for Klingon
boots
> in an episode of Star
> > Trek NG.
> >

I have the Wonder Woman Season 1 DVD's and the episode you are talking
about is included. Imagine the bad body of the gorilla from Escape
from the Planet of the Apes with a gorilla soldier Ben Cooper face
with an enlarged head. It is kind of close to the Planet Make-ups.
They don't give any special credit for the make up or design
of "Gargantua".

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <ursus3978@a...> wrote:
> I think there was an episode of Wonder Woman, where she fought a
> Gorilla that was trained to kill. I seem to remember (I may be wrong)
> that the make up looked just like the Chambers designed appliance
> combined with a regular Gorilla suit. It kinda looked like Ursus in
the
> steam room in Beneath.
>
> -Ray
>
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> >
> > > Off hand I can't think of any recycled POTA stuff used elsewhere.

This is a blurb from an STNG episode guide. Epsidoe: "Icarus Factor"... John Tesh showed
up as one of the Klingons in the Rite of Ascension chamber. Also, two of the Klingons
wore boots from the "Planet of the Apes" due to the fact that "Star Trek V" was also
filming at the time, and there was a Klingon costume shortage.

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That's pretty cool

 

Tony

 

 

 

In a message dated 5/26/2005 8:18:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rkid67@... writes:

This is a blurb from an STNG episode guide.  Epsidoe: "Icarus Factor"... John Tesh showed
up as one of the Klingons in the Rite of Ascension chamber.  Also, two of the Klingons 
wore boots from the "Planet of the Apes" due to the fact that  "Star Trek V" was also
filming at the time, and there was a Klingon costume shortage.

 

<.html

Paramount and 20th Century Fox are partners. 'Titanic' was prouced by both. I know they share licensing but I'm not sure in what other ways they are connected.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> The EFTPOTA suits being used in SW is feasible, as they are both 20th
> products, but IMHO, it's unlikely the Klingons have anything from POTA
> because of different studios...

.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/27/05 8:11:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rkid67@... writes:

Paramount and 20th Century Fox are partners.  'Titanic' was prouced by both.  I know they share licensing but I'm not sure in what other ways they are connected.

They're not connected at all, and Murdoch regrets having gone to Paramount to help split the costs of TITANIC.  That was a one shot deal.

-- Rory<.html <.html

Hello all.....I'm heading to the beach today with 400
unread emails here so I'll have A LOT of catching
up to do when I get back.....been working too much!
But just wanted to say that my local paper's movie
critic this morning says that the new animated film
"Madagascar" had the funniest Planet of the Apes joke
he's ever seen! Might be worth checking out! I'll
check back in next week...!
Tim

I heard back from the NYC Parks Dept., and it seems like APEMOM had
already found the answer to why there is a POTA Fountain in Queens:


Mr. Alma,

I will have to double check, because I do not have a quick answer to
your question my files, but I am assuming former Commissioner Stern
gave
the fountain that nick name. There is a Fountain of the Planets, and
since Stern was fond of puns, he probably called this other fountain
"Planet of the Apes Fountain" because it's near the zoo.

I'll double check with the division that deals with monuments and
sculpture to make sure.

Thanks for writing.
- John Mattera


Parks Library
Arsenal Rm. 240
830 5th Ave
New York, NY 10021
212-360-8240

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> Found this...
> http://www.queenscourier.com/oats/archives/oats091400.htm
>
> What's In A Name?
>
> There is one person in this city who can certainly answer that
> question — Parks Commissioner Henry Stern has peculiar but witty
and
> charming habits that he engages in while running one of the largest
> city agencies in the city. With thousands of acres of parks (the
> most are in Queens), thousands upon thousands of street trees,
miles
> of oceanfront beaches, scores of city pools, playgrounds, sports
> centers — not to mention a veritable army of parks workers all
under
> his domain, he certainly has a very big job. A very serious job. A
> very important job. Because parks are the lungs of the city and he
> is their ultimate protector.
>
> He's been doing this job for the entire length of the Giuliani
> administration. And he did this job during the 1980's for about the
> entire administration of Ed Koch. He is clearly an intelligent man
> who is a good administrator. In many ways most of the parks in this
> city have never been in better shape. In sheer terms of longevity
in
> this job, he is second only to the city's first parks commissioner
> and master builder, Robert Moses (who held the job from 1936 to
> 1960).
>
> Now about the quirks mentioned at the beginning of this column.
> While Stern is about doing his job, he also goes about amusing
> himself, and sometimes makes everyone else shake their heads in
> disbelief. First, the tree funerals. Yes, when a large or venerable
> old tree is cut down by a tree vandal, he will hold a whole funeral
> for the tree on the site of the dastardly deed. For a long time he
> brought his dog, Boomer, to work and everywhere else he went. He
> would invite people to pet the dog whereupon he would carry a
> clicker and keep track of the numbers of people who have pet
Boomer.
> He wanted Boomer to get into the Guinness Book of Records on being
> the most petted dog in the world. Seriously. There are other quirky
> but harmless habits.
>
> But he's got this thing with names. Look around the city and you'll
> notice that every park and playground has a nice looking wood
plaque
> identifying the name of the park. Where before you never really
knew
> the name of your local parks — you do now. Some of these names are
> fascinating signposts to a neighborhood's history and geography.
> When a park does not have a name, he invents one — sometimes with
> wit. (When a big playground was refurbished recently on Yellowstone
> Blvd. in Forest Hills, he took delight in re-dedicating it
> as "Yellowstone Municipal park," his own version of Yellowstone
> National Park. There's a huge old broken fountain in Flushing
> Meadows called The Fountain of the Planets, so when a small new
> fountain was placed at the entrance to the Queens Zoo, he named
> it "Fountain of the Planet of the Apes." A companion fountain he
> named "Fountain of the Grapes of Wrath." Don't ask.
>
> Then there's the people names. He names people with clever names
> that reflect something about the person's job, or background, or
> their real name. He started with himself. ("Starquest," because
> Stern in German means star.) Then the mayor becomes "Eagle." Then
> everyone on his staff got a name. Then they got a little plaque on
a
> pin with the name he gave them. And he will refer to all these
> people by that new name. He remembers their names and keeps a
record
> of them all in a big black binder. Estelle Cooper, the assistant
> Queens Parks Commissioner who runs Flushing Meadows-Corona park is
> named "Unsphere." Our publisher, Victoria Schneps, is "Queen
Esther"
> (long story). A former editor here was "Copycat." I recently got my
> plaque pin. He thought about my last name (Oats) and came up
> with "Toasted." And that is what I have named the regular new
> column. Each week I will write here about people and events that
are
> interesting parts of Queens. Some of these people and events (if
> they are harmful to our borough) will deserve a real "toasting," as
> in roasting. But, hopefully, there are many more people and events
> in this county who deserve a toasting as in "here's a toast to
you!"
> So hope to see you here next week and we invite you to send in your
> own suggestions about what you think deserves either roasts or
> toasts.
>
> So for this first column, the first toast is to Henry Stern. here's
> a toast to you for making the city a greener and more amusing place
> to live.
>
> (David Oats is editor-in-chief of The Queens Courier and an
> historian and activist on behalf of Flushing Meadows-Corona Park.)

I haven't seen it, but I think "Madagascar" will be hard pressed to top
all the great POTA jokes from the Simpsons.

-Ray
www.RayAlma.com

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...> wrote:
my local paper's movie
> critic this morning says that the new animated film
> "Madagascar" had the funniest Planet of the Apes joke
> he's ever seen!

This week's very special Lesson is now available. In fact it is so
special there are two lessons.

To access, just click the banner on the Yahoo Home Page or directly via
this link:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTG.htm

Very special thanks to both Elaine and Glen for their contributions. Enjoy.

Helen, the kind words about Scrolls #10 really brightened my day. Many
thanks.We're working on making issue #11 even better! John, Scrolls.

I can't seem to open this. Is anyone else having this problem? I get
2/3 of the page loaded and my internet shuts down. (It's not timing
out. I'm on DSL.)

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> This week's very special Lesson is now available. In fact it is so
> special there are two lessons.
>
> To access, just click the banner on the Yahoo Home Page or directly
via
> this link:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTG.htm
>
> Very special thanks to both Elaine and Glen for their contributions.
Enjoy.

The arena in 'The Gladiators' was re-used in a later episode of Logan's
Run.Other than that, it's perhaps testimony to just how unique the
Apes 'look' is that it doesn't seem to have beeb recycled that
much.John, Scrolls.

To be fair to Glen it really is a drawing of Urko. I didn't have a pic
of Aldo and didn't think anyone would notice. My Bad.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
>
> The only criticism I might have is that Glen's drawing of Aldo really
looks more like Urko to me. It's a really good drawing of Urko, so it's
really more a quibble than a criticism, really.
>
> Greg
>

.html Great work on Ursus, Glen. I am still laughing. Elaine<.html

Thanks, Greg...Actually, Elaine wrote the Aldo piece, and I did the
Ursus one...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> I was able to open it. Nicely done everyone. I particularly liked
the first part. Elaine, you really channeled your inner drill-sargent
here, although I believe the correct spelling is panty-waist, not
panty-waste. The second part is a nice contrast to the first and I
think nicely illuminates the differences between the two Generals.
>
> The only criticism I might have is that Glen's drawing of Aldo
really looks more like Urko to me. It's a really good drawing of
Urko, so it's really more a quibble than a criticism, really.
>
> Greg
>
> ape_mom <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> I can't seem to open this. Is anyone else having this problem? I
get
> 2/3 of the page loaded and my internet shuts down. (It's not
timing
> out. I'm on DSL.)
>
> Helen
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> > This week's very special Lesson is now available. In fact it is
so
> > special there are two lessons.
> >
> > To access, just click the banner on the Yahoo Home Page or
directly
> via
> > this link:
> > http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTG.htm
> >
> > Very special thanks to both Elaine and Glen for their
contributions.
> Enjoy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original
POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards
and much, much more...
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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Service.

Thanks, Greg...Actually, Elaine wrote the Aldo piece, and I did the
Ursus one...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> I was able to open it. Nicely done everyone. I particularly liked
the first part. Elaine, you really channeled your inner drill-sargent
here, although I believe the correct spelling is panty-waist, not
panty-waste. The second part is a nice contrast to the first and I
think nicely illuminates the differences between the two Generals.
> 
> The only criticism I might have is that Glen's drawing of Aldo
really looks more like Urko to me. It's a really good drawing of
Urko, so it's really more a quibble than a criticism, really.
> 
> Greg
>
> ape_mom <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> I can't seem to open this.  Is anyone else having this problem?  I
get
> 2/3 of the page loaded and my internet shuts down.  (It's not
timing
> out.  I'm on DSL.)
>
> Helen
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> > This week's very special Lesson is now available. In fact it is
so
> > special there are two lessons.
> >
> > To access, just click the banner on the Yahoo Home Page or
directly
> via
> > this link:
> > http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTG.htm
> >
> > Very special thanks to both Elaine and Glen for their
contributions.
> Enjoy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original
POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards
and much, much more...
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>    To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/
>  
>    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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Service.







Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more...

No, actually...You see, I had to come up with two art pieces and a
written piece to equal Elaine's quality...*sigh*...We can't all be
genius'...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> Ah. I thought it was a strict writer/artist split. My apologies for
making that assumption.
>
> Both were nicely done and had me laughing. I don't know if either
of you got to see what the other wrote before submitting your part,
but I think they complimented each other well.
>
> Greg
>
> hotscheetz <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> Thanks, Greg...Actually, Elaine wrote the Aldo piece, and I did the
> Ursus one...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> > I was able to open it. Nicely done everyone. I particularly liked
> the first part. Elaine, you really channeled your inner drill-
sargent
> here, although I believe the correct spelling is panty-waist, not
> panty-waste. The second part is a nice contrast to the first and I
> think nicely illuminates the differences between the two Generals.
> >
> > The only criticism I might have is that Glen's drawing of Aldo
> really looks more like Urko to me. It's a really good drawing of
> Urko, so it's really more a quibble than a criticism, really.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > ape_mom <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> > I can't seem to open this. Is anyone else having this problem?
I
> get
> > 2/3 of the page loaded and my internet shuts down. (It's not
> timing
> > out. I'm on DSL.)
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> > > This week's very special Lesson is now available. In fact it is
> so
> > > special there are two lessons.
> > >
> > > To access, just click the banner on the Yahoo Home Page or
> directly
> > via
> > > this link:
> > > http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTG.htm
> > >
> > > Very special thanks to both Elaine and Glen for their
> contributions.
> > Enjoy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original
> POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading
Cards
> and much, much more...
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/
> >
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> > pota-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
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> Service.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original
POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards
and much, much more...
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
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>
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We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Danny Elfman's Birthday� �

Date: Sunday, May 29, 2005
Time: All Day

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Ah. I thought it was a strict writer/artist split. My apologies for making that assumption.

 

Both were nicely done and had me laughing. I don't know if either of you got to see what the other wrote before submitting your part, but I think they complimented each other well.

 

Greg

 

  I agree that both lessons complimented each other. I just didn't see Aldo as a general who would give a long speech. I always thought Ursus would be the more eloquent speaker and Glen did a good job with his speech. Elaine

<.html

Thank you, Elaine...I thought you caught Aldo's -- uh -- simplicity of
mind...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 5/28/2005 6:01:41 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> urko3085@s... writes:
> Ah. I thought it was a strict writer/artist split. My apologies for
making
> that assumption.
>
> Both were nicely done and had me laughing. I don't know if either of
you got
> to see what the other wrote before submitting your part, but I think
they
> complimented each other well.
>
> Greg
>
> I agree that both lessons complimented each other. I just didn't
see Aldo
> as a general who would give a long speech. I always thought Ursus
would be the
> more eloquent speaker and Glen did a good job with his speech. Elaine

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Ha, ha, ha...That's one of the best, James...Nice subtle nod to Star
Wars, too...

G

Thanks I've had that pic for week's and could come up with a good
caption until now.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> Ha, ha, ha...That's one of the best, James...Nice subtle nod to Star
> Wars, too...
>
> G

Let me thank Glen, Elaine and Mark. Working with all of you on the
lessons has been a great experience.

And if anyone else would like to contribute a lesson, feel free to
email me.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> Thank you, Elaine...I thought you caught Aldo's -- uh -- simplicity
of
> mind...=)
>
> G
>

One question or disconnect I've always have had with the POTA films is
the Ape Army as presented in Beneath. Why would a society with no
ongoing enemy maintain an army for centuries? Who did they need to
protect the ape civilization from? Humans were animals at that point
and no real threat. It is just one of those things that doesn't really
make much sense.

.html.htmlIn a message dated 5/30/2005 9:42:47 PM Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Why would a society with no ongoing enemy maintain an army for centuries? Who did they need to protect the ape civilization from?

I figure they maintained it because they always felt that there could possibly a threat out there... I'm sure Zaius wasn't the only higher up that felt a (possible) appearance of an intelligent human could ultimately lead to the humans trying to revolt... They kept (and maintained) the army to guard against any possible threat, be it human or otherwise...

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----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 8:27 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] The Ape Army

In a message dated 5/30/2005 9:42:47 PM Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Why would a society with no ongoing enemy maintain an army for centuries? Who did they need to protect the ape civilization from?

I figure they maintained it because they always felt that there could possibly a threat out there... I'm sure Zaius wasn't the only higher up that felt a (possible) appearance of an intelligent human could ultimately lead to the humans trying to revolt... They kept (and maintained) the army to guard against any possible threat, be it human or otherwise...

Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more...

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In a message dated 5/30/2005 9:41:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Thanks I've had that pic for week's and could come up with a good
caption until now.

Ha!  Nice one . . . But for a second there I though some one had done

a Star Wars poster with POTA characters in their place.

 

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> In a message dated 5/30/2005 9:42:47 PM Central Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@a... writes:

Perhaps they just needed to give the gorillas something to do? Anything to
take Ursus's mind off staging some kind of military coup and siezing full
control of the Govt. (Hmm, oddly enough he kinda does just that AFTER they
find someone to fight).

Dave B

Settle down!

A friend of mine wants to attempt to scratch build a full size 'ape' carbine rifle.
There's enough reference material for him to work from but could somebody
who owns either an original or a replica let me know what the weapon
measures from butt to muzzle

Much appreciated,
Dave B

I made a POTA carbine (first version) 94 cm length, based in screen
captures, photos and the M1 .30 carbine.
I,ve post some pics in file section, JR carbine folder

Take care.

JR

> This, and the recent appearance of the ANSA, ship board suit on Bruce
> Campbell in a sci fi movie

I don't think that was one of the original suits, it just looked
similar.

Hunter

Here's a link to a review of the Sideshow Taylor/Nova 2 pack:

http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_060105b.htm

-Ray
www.rayalma.com

Check it out:


http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=comiccon05


Matt

Thanks Jose. Everyone should take a look at these pics:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/JR/carbine/

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "joseramonruizdiez"
<joseramonruizdiez@y...> wrote:

> I made a POTA carbine (first version) 94 cm length, based in screen
> captures, photos and the M1 .30 carbine.
> I,ve post some pics in file section, JR carbine folder
>
> Take care.
>
> JR

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