> True but that doesn't really address the issue. If there are two
> timelines why does the nuclear war have to take place in

> with the Ape revolt/takeover. Just because the chain of events

> Conquest was Plague/Ape Revolt/Nuclear War doesn't mean

> way in another timeline. The chain of events there could have

> Nuclear War/Plague/Ape Takeover.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> >
> > That doesn't mean the bomb wasn't around in the 20th

> preserved
> > all those centuries, including after the 26th Century

> The bomb
> > may have been from the 20th Century, but it was never

> the centuries
> > following it because it was known to be "The Ultimate

> such,
> > other nukes may have been set off, but the final bomb wasn't,

> after the
> > "downfall" of Humanity, it came to be worshipped by the

> humans (mutants).
> > Remember, the Alpha-Omega bomb was made to last, and it

> the time
> > it was made up until the 40th Century...

> dehn said that one year before battle, you should take care that in
> battle there's a new purpose.
>

>
> nuclear war wipes out every space travel project, and with no
> space travel i just don't see how the plague comes on earth
>

> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"

> wrote:
> > dehn said that one year before battle, you should take care

> > battle there's a new purpose.
> >
>
> True, Battle can be looked at as the fork in the road. But if a new
> timeline was created, it was in Battle by Caesar's actions, not by

> mere existance.
>
> >
> > nuclear war wipes out every space travel project, and with no
> > space travel i just don't see how the plague comes on earth
> >
>
> It could have been a spaceship that was lauched prior to the war

> returned after it was over.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...> wrote:
> james,
>
> so did those humans die in 1955? because 3955-2000=1955. the
> answer is no.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Here's a way to bring this around on topic. Let's hear some ideas
about how Peter Jackson could put a POTA moment in the movie. Since he
also loves POTA, how could he do it without taking people out of the
movie? (By the way, I liked in the trailer when Kong said, "Bow your
heads!"). This thread just occurred to me so I don't have anything to
start it with, but if I think of something I'll post it. - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "James" <JamesA1102@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 3:17 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: POTA in Kong?


> MAybe Kong climbing the Statue of Liberty;-)
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > Here's a way to bring this around on topic. Let's hear some ideas
> about how Peter Jackson could put a POTA moment in the movie. Since he
> also loves POTA, how could he do it without taking people out of the
> movie? (By the way, I liked in the trailer when Kong said, "Bow your
> heads!"). This thread just occurred to me so I don't have anything to
> start it with, but if I think of something I'll post it. - - - Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>

> Your argument proves the 3955 date in BTPOTA is wrong...The

> POTA, 3978, is correct -- and 2000 years previous brings us to

> 5-6 years after Taylor and Brent left...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"

> > james,
> >
> > so did those humans die in 1955? because 3955-2000=1955.

> > answer is no.

> --- In _pota@yahoogroups.com_

> (mailto:mlccougar@a) ... wrote:
> >
> > That's true enough... I'd say your point that an apes revolt

> > war don't have to go hand in hand is probably true...
>
> Wow Cougar agrees with me.
>
> Now look what you caused;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...> wrote:
> i'm starting to follow your scheme of thought...but...one thing is
> still out of place...
>
> cornelius talk abou istituzionaled enslavement in escape...200
> years after a nuclear war???
>

> Cornelius never said when the nuclear war was. He didn't say it

> before nor did he say it was after.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>

> > i'm starting to follow your scheme of thought...but...one thing is
> > still out of place...
> >
> > cornelius talk abou istituzionaled enslavement in escape...200
> > years after a nuclear war???
> >

> Aintitcool has a NICE hi-res pic of Kong's face, I guess from the
> trailer. He's one battle damaged dude!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> As I recall Kong went
>
> King Kong you know the name of
> King Kong you know the fame of
> King Kong
> Ten times as big as a man

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> I saw the movie Madagascar and loved the pota reference. I knew a
pota
> reference was coming in the movie but was surprised by the way it
was done. Did
> anyone else see the movie? Elaine

> APE-ONAUTS,
>
> There's a new poll. James let all my polls "open" in the months to
> come, they are extremely important!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
> Tough one because of all the continuity errors in this film. I'm
gonna say the scene where
> Caesar breaks off banana pieces; the banana changes hands as he
breaks off the pieces.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> No that's not what I was looking for. This is a much bigger mistake.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
> > Tough one because of all the continuity errors in this film. I'm
> gonna say the scene where
> > Caesar breaks off banana pieces; the banana changes hands as he
> breaks off the pieces.

> When the recording of the president is playing, the aspect ratio

>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> > No that's not what I was looking for. This is a much bigger

> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
> > > Tough one because of all the continuity errors in this film.

> > gonna say the scene where
> > > Caesar breaks off banana pieces; the banana changes hands as he
> > breaks off the pieces.

Me and my son were laughing so hard.... my Wife just shook her head
and covered her face. :)

 

 I was pretty hysterical with laughter. I recommend the movie, loved the lemurs. Elaine

> But I didn't give him a hi-res version. What's
> the point of having rare pics if everyone has 'em?

> I'd probably read the comic and novel adaptations of Conquest

> say, a zillion times before I ever saw Conquest on the

> that, no doubt,colours my judgement.I've always thought that

> did an amazing job on the novel.Caesar is a real military

> the evolution of the Ape Rebellion is, even though necessarily
> telescpoed in time,convincingly logical.I've always thought the
> Moench/Alcala comics adaptation was the best adaptation and

> classy piece of work. I've always been really disappointed with

> movie.For me, Montalban is the best thing in it and I really

> just how badly the censor damaged the film--it doesn't seem to

> staedy pace like the others.The story is my favourite Apes

> movie is my least favourite of the five.Imagine Cameron

> Conquest---that would have been something!John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> Here's an ad I found months ago in The New York Times for the 4th of
July
> holiday back in 1968. This is what 20th Century-Fox had to offer at
movie
> theatres in NYC.

> I want to see "Prudence and the Pill"!......
> Were these all playing on the same bill? Odd that
> the
> god Dr. D was in there amongst the more adult fare
>
> Tim
>
> --- Haristas@... wrote:
>
> > Here's an ad I found months ago in The New York
> > Times for the 4th of July
> > holiday back in 1968. This is what 20th
> Century-Fox
> > had to offer at movie
> > theatres in NYC.
> >
>
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> Interesting that the movie 'The Detective' was included. Does anyone
> know what film is considered the unoffcial sequel to 'The Detective'
> and what connection it has to POTA?

> Here's an ad I found months ago in The New York
> Times for the 4th of July
> holiday back in 1968. This is what 20th Century-Fox
> had to offer at movie
> theatres in NYC.
>

>
> In a message dated 7/4/2005 10:36:52 A.M. Central Daylight

> Haristas@a... writes:
>
> I remember seeing some ads in the newspaper that slapped an

> it. That's what "PG" and later "PG-13" used to be and it stood

> Audiences." But in May 1969 I saw PLANET again in a re-issue

> MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES (The ad

> Apes and Men") and it had a "G" rating.
>
>
>
> That sounds like the same titillation advertising as the "Forced

> campaign. But I don't remember the M in the 60's and early 70's

> there was such a rating. I do remember GP. It was later

> maybe because that actually make sense.
> Here's Wikipedia's explanation -- It even mentions POTA's

> You can read the full article at . . ._MPAA film rating system -

> the free encyclopedia_

>
>
>
> Original ratings
> The original movie ratings consisted of:
> * Rated G â€" Suggested For GENERAL Audiences

> * Rated M â€" Suggested For MATURE Audiences:

> Advised.
> * Rated R â€" RESTRICTED: Children under 17 (originally

> unless accompanied by a parent or adult guardian; some

> specifically stated that the "adult guardian" must be at least 21.
> * _Rated X_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rated_X) â€"

> 18 Not Admitted; the notation "Age limit may vary in certain

> sometimes added.
> Many parents thought films rated M contained more adult

> that were rated R; this confusion led to its replacement in

> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970_in_film) by GP:
> * Rated GP â€" General audiences/Parental guidance

> In _1972_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_in_film) GP was

> Parental guidance suggested.
> From the adoption of the system through the mid-1970s, it was

> for mainstream films such as _Airport_
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airport_(movie)) , _Planet of the

> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_(1968_movie)) ,

> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Odd_Couple) , and _2001: A

> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001:_A_Space_Odyssey) to be

> increasingly associated with films, often poorly made, intended

> for children, while the PG rating became increasingly common

> films, with the G rating increasingly stigmatized by a public

> film so rated was a "dumb movie rated G for kids." This led to

> becoming overloaded with everything from family films "spiced

> G to very mature films that were "toned down" to avoid R

> led to the somewhat waggish public _connotation_
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connotation) (never intended by

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
> The unofficial sequel was 'Die Hard'. I just bought The Detective
along with the Tony Rome
> films. I don't know the Apes connection though.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
>
> Who was she in BATTLE and where does she appear in DIE HARD 3?
>
> -- Rory

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> You're right. The book on which Die Hard was based was a sequel to the
> novel 'The Detective'. The POTA connection is Collen Camp who appeared
> in Die Hard 3 and in Battle.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 7/3/05 11:23:09 PM Eastern Daylight
Time,
> cornelius@e... writes:
>
>
> > except for 'Conquest' all the POTA films were rated
> > 'G', which by today's standard's, a 'G' rating for them would
never
> > fly. And giving 'Conquest' a 'PG' wouldn't go well in this day
and
> > age either, I think.
> >
>
> Actually PLANET was released in February 1968 and MPAA
movie rating system
> didn't get launched until November of '68. PLANET was still in
some theatres
> that late and I remember seeing some ads in the newspaper
that slapped an "M"
> rating on it. That's what "PG" and later "PG-13" used to be and
it stood for
> "Mature Audiences." But in May 1969 I saw PLANET again in a
re-issue with THOSE
> MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES (The ad
announced: "The Perfect
> Mates - Apes and Men") and it had a "G" rating.
>
> If re-released to theatres today, I'm sure all the APES films
would be rated
> "G," even CONQUEST.
>
> -- Rory

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 7/4/2005 4:06:57 PM Central Standard Time,
> apecalypsenow@y... writes:
>
> > 1- in battle, the c&z top secret footage caesar was searching for
> > was archived in ape management in 1995.
>
> Where do they say this in the film?
>
>
> >
> > 2-the final caesar speech, why was it changed?
>
> The bullsh*t ending was tacked onto it to give the film a more
upbeat
> ending...

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...> wrote:
> mic,
>
> in the sequence where caesar, macdonald and virgil are searching
> for the recording of cornelius and zira. according to virgil, the
> footage was "acquired" by the ape management in 1995, so the place
> was still running by that specific time.
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 7/5/2005 6:15:31 PM Central Standard Time,
> apecalypsenow@y... writes:
>
> > according to virgil, the footage was "acquired" by the ape
management in
> > 1995, so the place was still running by that specific time.
> >
>
> I checked it and did not see anywhere that Virgil says that... As a
matter of
> fact, the footage they were looking for was in the Archives
Section, not in
> the hands of Ape Management... The only date Virgil mentions in
"1973" which he
> read off of the container holding the Zira and Cornelius footage...

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@m...> wrote:
> Hi Adrian in the UK, and welcome.This is John in the UK (if Wales
> counts)and I have yet to find a UK Apes fan who doesn't love the
> comics.Some of us met Ploog in Bristol in May and we all came away
with
> Apes sketches by the great man.He's attending the Brighton Comic
Expo
> in November and is well worth the trip.We interviewed Mike in the
> current issue of Simian Scrolls (£3 incl p+p from me if you're
> interested!).Good to have you in here! John, Scrolls.

> Does anyone know if the cartoon series was released on DVD?

> I saw two
> different art covers for it, but cannot find it anywhere..... Thanks.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> Hoping our friends in London are okay. My thoughts and prayers are
with you.
> Elaine

>
> That reminds me, how's the quality on the DVD's?
> My video copy is poor at best. I was thinking
> about getting the DVD's if it's a good transfer.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
We all hope John, Dave, Mark et al are OK.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> Is everyone alright there?...Your families?...Friends?...
>
> Our good wishes and prayers are with you all...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> We all hope John, Dave, Mark et al are OK.

> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> >
> > That reminds me, how's the quality on the DVD's?
> > My video copy is poor at best. I was thinking
> > about getting the DVD's if it's a good transfer.

> I'd rate them good to very good.

> Thanks for the info. Someone from the group has a friend who can
> bootleg the series... On DVD.. Have a good one... Dave.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:
> I and mine are all okay.
>
> My son's school is closed for the day as many students rely on
public transport, which, as
> you can imagine, is in chaos right now - and today I'll be car
sharing, using my car to help
> three strangers to work and back home again. Other than that I was
mercifully
> unnaffected.
>
> Dave B
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@g...> wrote:

> I'll also go out on a limb here and say that you probably won't
find
> better quality. When I did the project, I spent a year gathering
> together six different sources from members of this list. The
quality
> ranged from unwatchable (literally) to very good. You can see
samples
> from four of the sources here:
>
> http://www.goatley.com/pota/dvd/toons/
>
> The two I didn't share captures from were even worse than the
worst of
> these, and that included a set of discs purchased via eBay.
>
> The Greg P. Sci-Fi versions were the cleanest, but they also had
> overly-vibrant colors (looks like some color-enhancement done by
> sci-fi), had the Sci-Fi logo in the corner, and they were edited.
The
> final source I used was unedited and looks great---considering that
> the original sources used for the broadcast weren't that great to
> begin with. On top of that, I did some considerable audio cleanup,
> making the final DVDs sound much better than the VHS source
sounded.
>
> Hunter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave B" <dave@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:41 PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Terrorist attacks (OT)


> I and mine are all okay.
>
> My son's school is closed for the day as many students rely on public
transport, which, as
> you can imagine, is in chaos right now - and today I'll be car sharing,
using my car to help
> three strangers to work and back home again. Other than that I was
mercifully
> unnaffected.
>
> Dave B
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> > Is everyone alright there?...Your families?...Friends?...
> >
> > Our good wishes and prayers are with you all...
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> > We all hope John, Dave, Mark et al are OK.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>

You're not going out on a limb at all Hunter. You did a fantastic
job on the Toons just as you did on the uncut version of Battle.
Can't wait for the raraties DVD that you're putting together.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@g...> wrote:

> I'll also go out on a limb here and say that you probably won't
find
> better quality.  When I did the project, I spent a year gathering
> together six different sources from members of this list.  The
quality
> ranged from unwatchable (literally) to very good.  You can see
samples
> from four of the sources here:
>
> http://www.goatley.com/pota/dvd/toons/
>
> The two I didn't share captures from were even worse than the
worst of
> these, and that included a set of discs purchased via eBay.
>
> The Greg P. Sci-Fi versions were the cleanest, but they also had
> overly-vibrant colors (looks like some color-enhancement done by
> sci-fi), had the Sci-Fi logo in the corner, and they were edited.
The
> final source I used was unedited and looks great---considering that
> the original sources used for the broadcast weren't that great to
> begin with.  On top of that, I did some considerable audio cleanup,
> making the final DVDs sound much better than the VHS source
sounded.
>
> Hunter






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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:
> I and mine are all okay.
>
> My son's school is closed for the day as many students rely on
public transport, which, as
> you can imagine, is in chaos right now - and today I'll be car
sharing, using my car to help
> three strangers to work and back home again. Other than that I was
mercifully
> unnaffected.
>
> Dave B
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> > Is everyone alright there?...Your families?...Friends?...
> >
> > Our good wishes and prayers are with you all...
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> > We all hope John, Dave, Mark et al are OK.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@g...> wrote:

> I'll also go out on a limb here and say that you probably won't find
> better quality.