I'm so bummed.  I followed the comic shop locator link on the
Diamond Comic link and found a comic shop in Keene -- only 50
minutes away -- in a town near where my daughter goes to school! 
But... the place doesn't exist!  Whaa, whaa, whaaa! 

So... back to mailorder?

Helen

Do you have a bookstore near you? They might order the comic. Elaine

 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:

 

>
>
> It looks like the new comic is getting some great buzz on the web.
Not only are some comics blogs talking about it
(http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/rage/112827989852421.htm &
http://spiltink.dreamhost.com/blogs/2005/09/hey-kids-comics-news-for-
september.html but Diamond Comics made it their staff pick of the
month (http://previews.diamondcomics.com/default.asp?
t=1&m=1&c=6&s=221&ai=22139). Looks like this is finally the comic
that some of us have been waiting for for 30 years.
>
> Also, be sure to check out the MR. Comics site
(http://www.mrcomics.ca/) for a special 5 page preview being posted
later this week.
>








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>
> In a message dated 10/12/2005 7:55:30 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
> I'm so bummed.
>
> So... back to mailorder?
>
> Helen
>
> Do you have a bookstore near you? They might order the comic. Elaine
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the update Dave.
>
> Great little story with a nice twist to it. I'd like to hear what
> everyone else thinks.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:
> >
> > The free story is now available to view on the Mr Comics website.
> >
> > Just go to the home page and click on the 'free story' link.
> >
> > <http://www.mrcomics.ca/>
> >
> > Dave B
> >
>

>
> Thanks for the update Dave.
>
> Great little story with a nice twist to it. I'd like to hear what
> everyone else thinks.
>

>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>

> > > We are pretty fortunate where we are.
> >
> > Where are you at?...
> >
>
> Northern New England.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> > > > We are pretty fortunate where we are.
> > >
> > > Where are you at?...
> > >
> >
> > Northern New England.
> >
>
>
> I knew when I wrote that that something would come along...
>
http://www.yahoo.com/_ylh=X3oDMTB2MXQ5MTU3BF9TAzI3MTYxNDkEdGVzdAMwBHR
> tcGwDaW5kZXgtaWU-/s/257686 I guess no one is ever completely safe
> when nature sends her best. I wish you all well. How are you
where
> you are, Elaine?
>
> Helen
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
> > > We are pretty fortunate where we are.
> >
> > Where are you at?...
> >
>
> Northern New England.
>


I knew when I wrote that that something would come along... 
http://www.yahoo.com/_ylh=X3oDMTB2MXQ5MTU3BF9TAzI3MTYxNDkEdGVzdAMwBHR
tcGwDaW5kZXgtaWU-/s/257686  I guess no one is ever completely safe
when nature sends her best.  I wish you all well.  How are you where
you are, Elaine?

Helen

  It has been raining here on and off for a week. Elaine

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
How are you where
> you are, Elaine?
>
> Helen
>
> It has been raining here on and off for a week. Elaine
>

Stay dry! We're told there should be a break on Wednesday.

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
>
> It's not too bad where you are, is it Helen?...
>
> G
>

This week's Lesson from the Lawgiver is now available.

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Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

REWIND:

My fellow Ape-o-nauts,

Don't misunderstood my intentions, no real need to make some sort of empty self-promotion, I've basically created a place to fully expose my weird ideas and - most of all- to cover all the aspects I consider as 'interesting' when coming to the marvellous POTA SAGA.

Don't wanna stretch things anymore, oookay judge for yourself:

apecalypse_now@yahoogroups.com

I'm confident you'll show up to give your 2 cents, this is my humble
tribute to the first and greatest movie saga of all the times, don't get me wrong. It's a FUNNY parallel dimension to this same GREAT community I enjoy day by day, or every other POTA community out of there. I wanna underline the term "FUNNY" = UNUSUAL.

I would like to ESTABILISH a 'community' where it's *just* required to expose the weirdest and most 'poethic' ideas/theories about the saga...  Whatever is in your mind about these issues...

Thanks in advance,

Tiziano Caliendo

>
> Hi to everyone out of there,
>
> Been away for a while. Since... JULY? Now, right now, I have a new
> PC, and I'm doing fine. My presence here is sured as hell.
>
> Just a question:
>
> Have you JUST 2 pics portraying the revolt of the APES at the of
> CONQUEST? I need just two pics of the apes, full shot... I would
> appreciate that a lot! :)
>
> I'm still working on my groups site, APECALYPSE NOW, poorly

> by the most (I was even derided by some members of this community -

> THANKS!)
>
> No offense, thanks in advance.
>
> Tiziano
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> It's really Apes! It's just this sort of twist that I enjoy seeing
> them play with a bit. I really hope that they stick to this more
> intellectual sort of comic. It ape-ears to be a fun story without a
> lot of nonsensical clutter. Great artwork, too!
>
> Helen
>
> PS One day I'll learn to read these things without getting all mixed
> up!
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> The twist seems to indicate that the writers are taking the
circular
> timeline approach. Or maybe I'm just making an assumption.
>
> Since their are advocates of both the circular and the dual
timeline
> theories here, I was wondering if you'd buy a POTA comic or book
that
> didn't follow the theory you ascribe to?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
> > It's really Apes! It's just this sort of twist that I enjoy
seeing
> > them play with a bit. I really hope that they stick to this
more
> > intellectual sort of comic. It ape-ears to be a fun story
without a
> > lot of nonsensical clutter. Great artwork, too!
> >
> > Helen
> >
> > PS One day I'll learn to read these things without getting all
mixed
> > up!
> >
>

I just uploaded a few pics to the files section to the folder:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ConquestPics/


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
wrote:
> Have you JUST 2 pics portraying the revolt of the APES at the of
> CONQUEST? I need just two pics of the apes, full shot... I would
> appreciate that a lot! :)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> I just uploaded a few pics to the files section to the folder:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ConquestPics/
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi to everyone out of there,
> >
> > Been away for a while. Since... JULY? Now, right now, I have a
new
> > PC, and I'm doing fine. My presence here is sured as hell.
> >
> > Just a question:
> >
> > Have you JUST 2 pics portraying the revolt of the APES at the of
> > CONQUEST? I need just two pics of the apes, full shot... I would
> > appreciate that a lot! :)
> >
> > I'm still working on my groups site, APECALYPSE NOW, poorly
> received
> > by the most (I was even derided by some members of this
community -
> --
> > THANKS!)
> >
> > No offense, thanks in advance.
> >
> > Tiziano
> >
>

Got the Intrada POTA TV show CD today.  Very nice packaging, but guess what, folks?  The linear notes have been written by Eric Greene, who once again hawks his book.  He writes a pretty good apology for the show, though I doubt some of you TV show fans will appreciate it much.  As for the music, well... it's in mono, and that's too bad, but it sounds better on this CD than it does in the episodes on the shows.  I think most of you will be very pleased.

-- Rory

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> I was wondering if you'd buy a POTA comic or book that
> didn't follow the theory you ascribe to?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> > I was wondering if you'd buy a POTA comic or book that
> > didn't follow the theory you ascribe to?
>
> That's a definite, yes!
>
> It's not so much ideas that would give me a problem but rather how
they are presented.
> That's where the skill of the writers come in. If they are good
they can make the
> unacceptable believable... At least for the duration of the story.
>
> Dave
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:
>
>
> That's a definite, yes!
>
> It's not so much ideas that would give me a problem but rather how
they are presented.
> That's where the skill of the writers come in. If they are good they
can make the
> unacceptable believable... At least for the duration of the story.
>
> Dave
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 10/17/2005 11:13:04 PM Central Standard Time,
> brindlepit2002@y... writes:
>
> > in in mono?
> > thats weird. you would think they would at least make it "psuedo-
stereo"
> > (mono in each channel)
> >
>
> It wouldn't be worth their time/effort on such a limited interest
item...
>

>
> I really don't believe in this circular timeline. I found it...
> too "contrived".
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> >
> > > I was wondering if you'd buy a POTA comic or book that
> > > didn't follow the theory you ascribe to?
> >
> > That's a definite, yes!
> >
> > It's not so much ideas that would give me a problem but rather

> they are presented.
> > That's where the skill of the writers come in. If they are good
> they can make the
> > unacceptable believable... At least for the duration of the

> >
> > Dave
> >
>

>
> You have a point, POTA fans are still a very small group when

> to SF fans overall.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful
> human being I've ever known in my life.

----- Original Message -----

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:49 AM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA TV Show CD

In a message dated 10/19/2005 9:57:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rkid67@... writes:

Hilarious.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful
> human being I've ever known in my life.

 

I was wondering if anyone was going to get that reference.

 

 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

I was wondering if anyone was going to get that reference.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@m...> wrote:
...trust me, you'll believe a gorilla can fly.

"Flight is a scientific impossibility."

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@m...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> >
> > You have a point, POTA fans are still a very small group when
> compared
> > to SF fans overall.
> Yeah, but we're the most loyal, cleverest, best looking and most
modest
> fans in SF! And the cd is superb! John, Scrolls.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...> wrote:
>
> I think the FAN ASYLUM for POTA is pretty big, but there are a lot
> of 'casual' fans who just don't expose themselves, that's all.

>
>
> In a message dated 10/21/2005 5:42:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> rkid67@y... writes:
>
> FAN ASYLUM for POTA
>
>
>
> That's a joke, right?
>

Well a day late but this week's Lesson from the Lawgiver is now available.

Just click the banner on the Yahoo home page to view the lesson.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
>
> Well a day late but this week's Lesson from the Lawgiver is now
available.
>
> Just click the banner on the Yahoo home page to view the lesson.
>

Hi guys,

There's been a site update at http://planetoftheapestv.150m.com/ - specifically, new material in photographs and comics has been added. Good stuff, hope you'll enjoy it.

See, I'm not dead!

Kass

 

    Thanks,Kass. More goodies. Elaine

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> There's been a site update at http://planetoftheapestv.150m.com -
specifically, new material in photographs and comics has been added.
Good stuff, hope you'll enjoy it.
>
> See, I'm not dead!
>
> Kass
>
>
>
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Must we poor and overlooked POTA fans start a great PETITION to have
the POTA cartoon series in DVD FORMAT?

I don't also know ANYTHING about the cartoon... how did it end? Can
you describe me the major differences between the MOVIE series and the
cartoon?

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>
> Hi Yesterday I was home from work and I thought I'd Pop in Battle
> while the Kids were Napping and the Wife had some Work to do on

> Computer. Okay so I hadn't watched this one in at least a year or
> two.Well Paying close attention to the Paul Williams / Virgil
> Charcter I'm just wondering how did the Apes know so much about
> Radioactivity? Also earlier Virgil sez sumptin (While tryin' to
> explain Time Travel)he says something about "From The Former New

> Travels To The Former London" Well Two Questions come to mind How

> the Apes know of our Cities? I can only assume they read our Maps
> maybe.And secondly (Besides the Original Stories in the old Marvel
> Comics Mag) Is there ANYTHING Shown or Implied in ANY of the Film
> Series to give us any idea of how things went in the rest of the
> United States or even The World!? Best I can Figure (going by what

> got from the Movies) We are shown how things work out for N.Y (1st
> and 2nd Films) and then L.A/Calif is covered in films 3,4 and 5

> this leads me to wonder a Third Question: Okay I understand Taylor
> Crashed in the Former N.Y (so did Brent) Okay and Apparently as

> Always read and herd that the Five Films Wrap Around,Meaning (I

> that you could call Battle the First Movie?) Well No matter, What

> asking is this: WHEN did Cornelius,Zira and THEIR "Ape City" move
> from L.A. To N.Y.? If they landed in 1973 and did their thing in

> then "Milo/Ceaser" Took over Calif. in "Conquest" and set up his

> City "About Two Days Outside The Dead City" Where Klop and his
> Mutants Attacked from, Well then I gotta wonder; when did the
> Action/story switched to New York? I hope my questions aren't too
> confusing Hell I'm confusing myself here! lol thanks
> JOHN
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> Hi Yesterday I was home from work and I thought I'd Pop in Battle
> while the Kids were Napping and the Wife had some Work to do on

> Computer. Okay so I hadn't watched this one in at least a year or
> two.Well Paying close attention to the Paul Williams / Virgil
> Charcter I'm just wondering how did the Apes know so much about
> Radioactivity? Also earlier Virgil sez sumptin (While tryin' to
> explain Time Travel)he says something about "From The Former New

> Travels To The Former London" Well Two Questions come to mind How

> the Apes know of our Cities? I can only assume they read our Maps
> maybe.And secondly (Besides the Original Stories in the old Marvel
> Comics Mag) Is there ANYTHING Shown or Implied in ANY of the Film
> Series to give us any idea of how things went in the rest of the
> United States or even The World!? Best I can Figure (going by what

> got from the Movies) We are shown how things work out for N.Y (1st
> and 2nd Films) and then L.A/Calif is covered in films 3,4 and 5

> this leads me to wonder a Third Question: Okay I understand Taylor
> Crashed in the Former N.Y (so did Brent) Okay and Apparently as

> Always read and herd that the Five Films Wrap Around,Meaning (I

> that you could call Battle the First Movie?) Well No matter, What

> asking is this: WHEN did Cornelius,Zira and THEIR "Ape City" move
> from L.A. To N.Y.? If they landed in 1973 and did their thing in

> then "Milo/Ceaser" Took over Calif. in "Conquest" and set up his

> City "About Two Days Outside The Dead City" Where Klop and his
> Mutants Attacked from, Well then I gotta wonder; when did the
> Action/story switched to New York? I hope my questions aren't too
> confusing Hell I'm confusing myself here! lol thanks
> JOHN
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> Hey Kass,
>
> Thanks for the heads up on the update. Your site is a true resource
> for POTA fans.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > There's been a site update at http://planetoftheapestv.150m.com -
> specifically, new material in photographs and comics has been
added.
> Good stuff, hope you'll enjoy it.
> >
> > See, I'm not dead!
> >
> > Kass
> >
> >
> >
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...> wrote:

>
> Basically Cornelius and Zira crashed on California, and
> their "presence" in 1973 altered Space/Time continuum forever.

Well this is something that I've often disputed since there is not one line of dialouge in the films that directly supports it. However, it is an interesting and creative theory to explain many the errors and mistakes. But it is not the only theory to explain them so I look at it as dispassionately as a possibility, not hysterically as a fact.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...> wrote:

>
> I don't think the city in BATTLE was really NEW YORK, but we have to
> keep in mind that THIS nuclear war which broke out in 1992 was way
> MORE DIFFERENT than the nuclear war which broke out in the original
> timeline (No Cornelius and Zira in 1973)... dated back to 2504/5 A.C.
>

That only works if there was an original timeline which can be disputed.

>
> Perhaps, but in that case there's no guarantee that the dead city in

>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "branchbrood" <branchbrood93@j...> wrote:

>
> Well Thanks James,Your words Kinda clear up some of this EXCEPT that
> the Century City Complex just LOOKS West Coast (Well To me) But It Does
> Say at the Opening of Conquest IIRC "NORTH AMERICA :1996" Well I don't
> recall the year but my point is James,You seem to be Correct NO City is
> Specifyied

True is does look very West Coast because it is on the West Coast. The same is true for some with the ending of Planet. (We all know it's supposed to be the East Coast but it looks a lot like Malibu.)

But the Century City complex has been used to represent other cities as well. On an episode of the old Mary Tyler Moore show it doubled for Minneapolis. And there are modern parts of many cities that look very similar from lower Manhattan to the east end of London. For me the fact that everyone is wearing black turtlenecks, heavy corduroy or leather makes it seem very East Coast.

> True is does look very West Coast because it is on the West Coast.
> The same is true for some with the ending of Planet. (We all know it's
> supposed to be the East Coast but it looks a lot like Malibu.)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> To Rory and all our members in Florida, we all hope that you've stayed
> safe & dry today.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> Actually, Conquest & Battle take place on the East Coast not on the
> West. For some reason many assume because Escape took place on the
> in California, Conquest must have taken place there too. I've never
> been able to understand the logic of that particularly because
> Armando is heading to Florida at the end of Escape.
> Anyway, while there is no indication in Conquest of exactly where
> Breck's city is located; in both Dehn's & the Corrington's
> treatments for Battle it is stated that Caesar's settlement is the
> same one from the first two films.
> "Ape City is the same primitive community which develops into the
> more advanced city culture Taylor discovers."
> You can read both Dehn's and the Corrington's treatments on on
> Hunter's site:
> http://www.goatley.com/pota/scripts/pota_epic_treatment.pdf
> http://www.goatley.com/pota/scripts/pota_battle_1stdehn.pdf
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "branchbrood" <branchbrood93@j...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Yesterday I was home from work and I thought I'd Pop in Battle
> > while the Kids were Napping and the Wife had some Work to do on
> the
> > Computer. Okay so I hadn't watched this one in at least a year or
> > two.Well Paying close attention to the Paul Williams / Virgil
> > Charcter I'm just wondering how did the Apes know so much about
> > Radioactivity? Also earlier Virgil sez sumptin (While tryin' to
> > explain Time Travel)he says something about "From The Former New
> York
> > Travels To The Former London" Well Two Questions come to mind How
> do
> > the Apes know of our Cities? I can only assume they read our Maps
> > maybe.And secondly (Besides the Original Stories in the old
Marvel
> > Comics Mag) Is there ANYTHING Shown or Implied in ANY of the Film
> > Series to give us any idea of how things went in the rest of the
> > United States or even The World!? Best I can Figure (going by
what
> I
> > got from the Movies) We are shown how things work out for N.Y
(1st
> > and 2nd Films) and then L.A/Calif is covered in films 3,4 and 5
> BUT
> > this leads me to wonder a Third Question: Okay I understand
Taylor
> > Crashed in the Former N.Y (so did Brent) Okay and Apparently as
> I've
> > Always read and herd that the Five Films Wrap Around,Meaning (I
> guess
> > that you could call Battle the First Movie?) Well No matter, What
> I'm
> > asking is this: WHEN did Cornelius,Zira and THEIR "Ape City" move
> > from L.A. To N.Y.? If they landed in 1973 and did their thing in
> LA
> > then "Milo/Ceaser" Took over Calif. in "Conquest" and set up his
> Ape
> > City "About Two Days Outside The Dead City" Where Klop and his
> > Mutants Attacked from, Well then I gotta wonder; when did the
> > Action/story switched to New York? I hope my questions aren't too
> > confusing Hell I'm confusing myself here! lol thanks
> > JOHN
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
>
> IMHO, people presume that COTPOTA and BFTPOTA were on the west
coast
> because of both EFTPOTA AND the TV series...
> Also, IMHO, it is established that the bamboo Ape City of BFTPOTA
is
> built on the future location of the "stone" Ape City of POTA and
> BTPOTA...This given, look at the timeframes...The city of NY is
> centuries ruined, whereas, the "Breck" city is only decades
> ruined...It is simple...The "Breck" city would have decayed by the
> time of POTA and BTPOTA...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> >
> > Actually, Conquest & Battle take place on the East Coast not on
the
> > West. For some reason many assume because Escape took place on
the
> > in California, Conquest must have taken place there too. I've
never
> > been able to understand the logic of that particularly because
> > Armando is heading to Florida at the end of Escape.
> > Anyway, while there is no indication in Conquest of exactly
where
> > Breck's city is located; in both Dehn's & the Corrington's
> > treatments for Battle it is stated that Caesar's settlement is
the
> > same one from the first two films.
> > "Ape City is the same primitive community which develops into
the
> > more advanced city culture Taylor discovers."
> > You can read both Dehn's and the Corrington's treatments on on
> > Hunter's site:
> > http://www.goatley.com/pota/scripts/pota_epic_treatment.pdf
> > http://www.goatley.com/pota/scripts/pota_battle_1stdehn.pdf
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "branchbrood" <branchbrood93@j...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Yesterday I was home from work and I thought I'd Pop in
Battle
> > > while the Kids were Napping and the Wife had some Work to do
on
> > the
> > > Computer. Okay so I hadn't watched this one in at least a year
or
> > > two.Well Paying close attention to the Paul Williams / Virgil
> > > Charcter I'm just wondering how did the Apes know so much
about
> > > Radioactivity? Also earlier Virgil sez sumptin (While tryin'
to
> > > explain Time Travel)he says something about "From The Former
New
> > York
> > > Travels To The Former London" Well Two Questions come to mind
How
> > do
> > > the Apes know of our Cities? I can only assume they read our
Maps
> > > maybe.And secondly (Besides the Original Stories in the old
> Marvel
> > > Comics Mag) Is there ANYTHING Shown or Implied in ANY of the
Film
> > > Series to give us any idea of how things went in the rest of
the
> > > United States or even The World!? Best I can Figure (going by
> what
> > I
> > > got from the Movies) We are shown how things work out for N.Y
> (1st
> > > and 2nd Films) and then L.A/Calif is covered in films 3,4 and
5
> > BUT
> > > this leads me to wonder a Third Question: Okay I understand
> Taylor
> > > Crashed in the Former N.Y (so did Brent) Okay and Apparently
as
> > I've
> > > Always read and herd that the Five Films Wrap Around,Meaning
(I
> > guess
> > > that you could call Battle the First Movie?) Well No matter,
What
> > I'm
> > > asking is this: WHEN did Cornelius,Zira and THEIR "Ape City"
move
> > > from L.A. To N.Y.? If they landed in 1973 and did their thing
in
> > LA
> > > then "Milo/Ceaser" Took over Calif. in "Conquest" and set up
his
> > Ape
> > > City "About Two Days Outside The Dead City" Where Klop and his
> > > Mutants Attacked from, Well then I gotta wonder; when did the
> > > Action/story switched to New York? I hope my questions aren't
too
> > > confusing Hell I'm confusing myself here! lol thanks
> > > JOHN
> > >
> >
>

>
> MAYBE I would even like to think BATTLE's "Ape City" is somewhat

> prototype of the one we see in PLANET and BENEATH - on the other
> hand, evidence suggests the opposite. Let's skip the

> Timeline issue for a moment. In BATTLE the city doesn't resemble

> YORK at all. Where's the damn STATUE, for instance? It's clearly a
> relatively small city, not a metropolis. Then, it seems implied in
> CONQUEST that the city the Apes has taken over in the end CAN'T
> POSSIBLY BE that much big - the Apes weren't a legion and to make
> the whole thing work you MUST think that.
>
> Maybe Caesar's Ape City is located FAR BELOW the former New York

> the PLACE where PLANET/BENEATH Ape City will/would rise (same
> timeline here?)... it's obvious.
> Or maybe Caesar's Ape City is really located on the West Coast...
> But that doesn't really explain why on Earth the Mutants's

> are there!
>
> The TV SERIES doesn't necessarely belong.
> Is in the TV SERIES explicity stated it is the WEST Coast?
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> Breck's city in Conquest (the destroyed city in Battle) is not
> necessarily New York. There is nothing presented to say it is or it
> isn't particularly in Conquest. And the little bits of it seen in
> Conquest can resemble more modern sections of almost any city.
> However, in Battle it is clear that if it is not New York it is
> someplace close by. The mutants are meant to be the ancestors of
the
> mutants seen in Beneath. And the Ape City seen in Battle is meant
to
> be the Ape City seen in Planet & Beneath. But there is no evidence
> presented to suggest it is LA or any where on the West Coast. That
> is an assumuption made because Escape took place on the West Coast.
> (Like Armando couldn't travel from the West to the East Coast over
> the space of 18 years.)
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > MAYBE I would even like to think BATTLE's "Ape City" is somewhat
> the
> > prototype of the one we see in PLANET and BENEATH - on the other
> > hand, evidence suggests the opposite. Let's skip the
> CIRCULAR/DOUBLE
> > Timeline issue for a moment. In BATTLE the city doesn't resemble
> NEW
> > YORK at all. Where's the damn STATUE, for instance? It's clearly
a
> > relatively small city, not a metropolis. Then, it seems implied
in
> > CONQUEST that the city the Apes has taken over in the end CAN'T
> > POSSIBLY BE that much big - the Apes weren't a legion and to make
> > the whole thing work you MUST think that.
> >
> > Maybe Caesar's Ape City is located FAR BELOW the former New York
> and
> > the PLACE where PLANET/BENEATH Ape City will/would rise (same
> > timeline here?)... it's obvious.
> > Or maybe Caesar's Ape City is really located on the West Coast...
> > But that doesn't really explain why on Earth the Mutants's
> ancestors
> > are there!
> >
> > The TV SERIES doesn't necessarely belong.
> > Is in the TV SERIES explicity stated it is the WEST Coast?
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
>
> IMHO, I figure that "Breck's" city is a suburb of New York...It
> probably would have decayed and been reclaimed by the encroaching
> desert by the time of POTA and BTPOTA...
>
> Since it is somewhat clear, to me at least, that the tunnels in
> BTPOTA are more extensive than those in COTPOTA, I would surmise
that
> the mutants eventually move the AO Bomb from the area of Ape
> Management (BFTPOTA) to Saint Patrick's Cathedral by BTPOTA, as
they
> expand their tunnel-system and underground city...
>
> Largely because of the "Marvel" timeline, people tend to put the
POTA
> TV series between the end of BFTPOTA and the beginning of
> POTA...Again, since EFTPOTA took place on the west coast, and the
TV
> series took place on the west coast, people assume COTPOTA and
> BFTPOTA also took place on the west coast...Further, the "Marvel"
> timeline puts those events on the west coast as well, having the
> mutants migrate over to the east coast (though why is never
clear)...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> >
> > Breck's city in Conquest (the destroyed city in Battle) is not
> > necessarily New York. There is nothing presented to say it is or
it
> > isn't particularly in Conquest. And the little bits of it seen
in
> > Conquest can resemble more modern sections of almost any city.
> > However, in Battle it is clear that if it is not New York it is
> > someplace close by. The mutants are meant to be the ancestors of
> the
> > mutants seen in Beneath. And the Ape City seen in Battle is
meant
> to
> > be the Ape City seen in Planet & Beneath. But there is no
evidence
> > presented to suggest it is LA or any where on the West Coast.
That
> > is an assumuption made because Escape took place on the West
Coast.
> > (Like Armando couldn't travel from the West to the East Coast
over
> > the space of 18 years.)
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
<apecalypsenow@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > MAYBE I would even like to think BATTLE's "Ape City" is
somewhat
> > the
> > > prototype of the one we see in PLANET and BENEATH - on the
other
> > > hand, evidence suggests the opposite. Let's skip the
> > CIRCULAR/DOUBLE
> > > Timeline issue for a moment. In BATTLE the city doesn't
resemble
> > NEW
> > > YORK at all. Where's the damn STATUE, for instance? It's
clearly
> a
> > > relatively small city, not a metropolis. Then, it seems
implied
> in
> > > CONQUEST that the city the Apes has taken over in the end
CAN'T
> > > POSSIBLY BE that much big - the Apes weren't a legion and to
make
> > > the whole thing work you MUST think that.
> > >
> > > Maybe Caesar's Ape City is located FAR BELOW the former New
York
> > and
> > > the PLACE where PLANET/BENEATH Ape City will/would rise (same
> > > timeline here?)... it's obvious.
> > > Or maybe Caesar's Ape City is really located on the West
Coast...
> > > But that doesn't really explain why on Earth the Mutants's
> > ancestors
> > > are there!
> > >
> > > The TV SERIES doesn't necessarely belong.
> > > Is in the TV SERIES explicity stated it is the WEST Coast?
> > >
> >
>

>
> If the city was really submitted to a graduating decay such

> and ended up as being a desert (see PLANET and BENEATH), instead of
> being INSTANTLY WIPED-OUT by the bombings as I think or suppose,

> did the UNDERGROUND structures we see in BENEATH somewhat survive?
>
> I think there was *NO* decay, NEW YORK was wiped-out, totally
> destroyed, except for the underground structures which managed to
> fall even deeper.
>
> So the city we see in CONQUEST/BATTLE is a 'suburban city' or a
> satellite which went bombet-out only marginally with lesser

> H-Bombs.
>
> Is there any factual evidence the TV Series (which belongs to
> Taylor's timeline, not Caesar's one) is really placed in the West
> Coast?
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> >
> > IMHO, I figure that "Breck's" city is a suburb of New York...It
> > probably would have decayed and been reclaimed by the encroaching
> > desert by the time of POTA and BTPOTA...
> >
> > Since it is somewhat clear, to me at least, that the tunnels in
> > BTPOTA are more extensive than those in COTPOTA, I would surmise
> that
> > the mutants eventually move the AO Bomb from the area of Ape
> > Management (BFTPOTA) to Saint Patrick's Cathedral by BTPOTA, as
> they
> > expand their tunnel-system and underground city...
> >
> > Largely because of the "Marvel" timeline, people tend to put the
> POTA
> > TV series between the end of BFTPOTA and the beginning of
> > POTA...Again, since EFTPOTA took place on the west coast, and the
> TV
> > series took place on the west coast, people assume COTPOTA and
> > BFTPOTA also took place on the west coast...Further, the "Marvel"
> > timeline puts those events on the west coast as well, having the
> > mutants migrate over to the east coast (though why is never
> clear)...
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Breck's city in Conquest (the destroyed city in Battle) is not
> > > necessarily New York. There is nothing presented to say it is

> it
> > > isn't particularly in Conquest. And the little bits of it seen
> in
> > > Conquest can resemble more modern sections of almost any city.
> > > However, in Battle it is clear that if it is not New York it is
> > > someplace close by. The mutants are meant to be the ancestors

> > the
> > > mutants seen in Beneath. And the Ape City seen in Battle is
> meant
> > to
> > > be the Ape City seen in Planet & Beneath. But there is no
> evidence
> > > presented to suggest it is LA or any where on the West Coast.
> That
> > > is an assumuption made because Escape took place on the West
> Coast.
> > > (Like Armando couldn't travel from the West to the East Coast
> over
> > > the space of 18 years.)
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
> <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > MAYBE I would even like to think BATTLE's "Ape City" is
> somewhat
> > > the
> > > > prototype of the one we see in PLANET and BENEATH - on the
> other
> > > > hand, evidence suggests the opposite. Let's skip the
> > > CIRCULAR/DOUBLE
> > > > Timeline issue for a moment. In BATTLE the city doesn't
> resemble
> > > NEW
> > > > YORK at all. Where's the damn STATUE, for instance? It's
> clearly
> > a
> > > > relatively small city, not a metropolis. Then, it seems
> implied
> > in
> > > > CONQUEST that the city the Apes has taken over in the end
> CAN'T
> > > > POSSIBLY BE that much big - the Apes weren't a legion and to
> make
> > > > the whole thing work you MUST think that.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe Caesar's Ape City is located FAR BELOW the former New
> York
> > > and
> > > > the PLACE where PLANET/BENEATH Ape City will/would rise (same
> > > > timeline here?)... it's obvious.
> > > > Or maybe Caesar's Ape City is really located on the West
> Coast...
> > > > But that doesn't really explain why on Earth the Mutants's
> > > ancestors
> > > > are there!
> > > >
> > > > The TV SERIES doesn't necessarely belong.
> > > > Is in the TV SERIES explicity stated it is the WEST Coast?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>Well There is ONE DETAIL we're not lookin' at, It's simply this,

> Is there any factual evidence the TV Series (which belongs to
> Taylor's timeline, not Caesar's one) is really placed in the West
> Coast?
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "branchbrood" <branchbrood93@j...> wrote:
> >Well There is ONE DETAIL we're not lookin' at, It's simply this,
> What about the Species of TREES shown in "Battle" Weren't there some
> CALIFORNIA REDWOODS? the Key Word being CALIFORNIA! lol I'm no Tree
> Expert but I'd lay Dollar's to Bannanas that IF we have ANY Tree-
> Knowledgable Folks here,I bet ya' they could identify AT LEAST ONE
> Verity of the Tree's Shown in "Battle" as being Native to the
> Westcoast! Again Just a thought.
>
> JOHN
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> Yes but Caesar ordered 'Steaks-New York Cut' in Conquest. That proves
> they were on the East Coast! LOL ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rkid67" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
>
> Funny. I made a t-shirt for someone with the 'New York Cut' note.
I put the design in my t-
> shirt file.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> >
> > Yes but Caesar ordered 'Steaks-New York Cut' in Conquest. That
proves
> > they were on the East Coast! LOL ;-)
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <ursus3978@a...> wrote:
>
> One aspect of this "is Breck's city NY?" question should be
addressed.
> Mainly, the capital of New York State is Albany. If Breck were the
> Govener of NY, then the city that his HQ would be in, would be
Albany.
>
> Now, I've never been to Albany, so I don't know how if the
Conquest
> city could pass for a "future" (1980's) Albany.
>
> Another interesting aspect to this discussion is that a drawing of
a
> future NYC appears in the Pilot episode of the TV show, and that
image
> doesn't resemble the NYC I know. I think that actuallly more
closely
> resembles the Conquest city. I wonder if that were intentional.
>
> -Ray
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <ursus3978@a...> wrote:
>
> Check out some of these images of Albany:
>
> http://www.bluffton.edu/~sullivanm/empiresp/empiresp.html"
>
> Hmmmm.
> Do we have a winner?
>
> I dont' know.
> The name "Albany" just doesn't sound all that exciting.
>
> "Conquest of Albany, New York!"
>
>
> -Ray
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <ursus3978@a...> wrote:
>
> One aspect of this "is Breck's city NY?" question should be addressed.
> Mainly, the capital of New York State is Albany. If Breck were the
> Govener of NY, then the city that his HQ would be in, would be Albany.
>
> Now, I've never been to Albany, so I don't know how if the Conquest
> city could pass for a "future" (1980's) Albany.
>
> Another interesting aspect to this discussion is that a drawing of a
> future NYC appears in the Pilot episode of the TV show, and that
image
> doesn't resemble the NYC I know. I think that actuallly more closely
> resembles the Conquest city. I wonder if that were intentional.
>
> -Ray
>

Hi Apeophiles I was "Exploring" the Ruins that we know as the "Internal
Database" when I happened upon the Comic/Magazine Covers I see there is
some that have had all the Type removed by Mr. Dave Ballard.So my
question is Are this Redone Covers Availible for me to Print? I wanna
Do them 8x10 for my Lair lol

JOHN

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
>
> They are all on Hunter's site in the comics section.
>
> http://www.goatley.com/pota/
>
> Greg
>
> branchbrood <branchbrood93@j...> wrote:
> Hi Apeophiles I was "Exploring" the Ruins that we know as the "Internal
> Database" when I happened upon the Comic/Magazine Covers I see there is
> some that have had all the Type removed by Mr. Dave Ballard.So my
> question is Are this Redone Covers Availible for me to Print? I wanna
> Do them 8x10 for my Lair lol
>
> JOHN
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/
MainPage.htm for Original pota One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading
Cards and much, much more...
>
>
>
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am in a remote location in North Carolina having fled the
Forbidden Zone
> that is currently South Florida. I left the day after the storm.
There was no
> power or water and the destruction is such that it may be a couple
weeks
> before things are back to normal. It's only been four days. Why
stay and suffer?
> My APES collection survived fine and is save. Meanwhile I'll just
sit up
> here in the mountains and wait until the power is back on.
>
> See you all later.
>
> -- Rory
>

>
> Hi John,
>
> I was asleep when you asked your question, didn't see it until this

> glad you like the covers enough to want to print some off - that's

> for.
>
> The bleary-eyed, where's-my-coffee? Mr. Ballard
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> >
> > They are all on Hunter's site in the comics section.
> >
> > http://www.goatley.com/pota/
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > branchbrood <branchbrood93@j...> wrote:
> > Hi Apeophiles I was "Exploring" the Ruins that we know as

> > Database" when I happened upon the Comic/Magazine Covers I see

> > some that have had all the Type removed by Mr. Dave Ballard.So my
> > question is Are this Redone Covers Availible for me to Print? I

> > Do them 8x10 for my Lair lol
> >
> > JOHN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website

> MainPage.htm for Original pota One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers &

> Cards and much, much more...
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > Visit your group "pota" on the web.
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>