--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@o...> wrote:
>
> Hi, all,
>
> Just announcing my presence. :)
>
> Rich
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> Hi Rich. We are honored by your presence. :-)
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@o...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, all,
> >
> > Just announcing my presence. :)
> >
> > Rich
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> This Saturday night from 8PM to 9PM (Eastern Time) Joe O'Brien will
> be here in our chat room to answer your questions about the new
> comic "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes". Joe, with Ty
> Templeton, is writing the new comic and is coming here to talk with
> serious POTA fans.
>
> All are invited to attend and participate. Our chat room is located
> here: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/chat . If you wish
> to attend, I'd suggest you check out if the chat function works on
> your computer. If is doesn't or you just can't make it on Saturday,
> feel free to email me privately with your questions and I'll do my
> best to ask them during the chat.
>
> If you do plan to attend and ask a question also email me
privately.
> You don't need to clear your question, I just want to make sure I
> call on you.
>
> I'll be moderating the chat and I ask everyone to follow a few
> simple rules:
> Wait for me to call on you to ask your question.
> Please be polite and respectful to our guest.
> And keep your questions as brief as possible.
>
> Everyone will also get a chance to ask a follow-up question.
>
> Thanks. Looking forward to seeing everyone on Saturday.
>

>
> So no gets left out, remember that 8pm Eastern Time is 7pm Central
> Time, 6pm Mountain Time and 5pm Pacific Time...

>From: "James" <JamesA1102@...>
>Hi Rich. We are honored by your presence. :-)

>From: "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...>
>Who's this, Darth Richard?...=)

>From: "shanter2002" <mail@...>
>Rich, welcome.As a special initiation to this Group, we usually ask
>that a new member prove definitively where Conquest was set, with maps,
>reasoning and diagrams.Medication is available if required.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@m...> wrote:
>
> Rich, welcome.As a special initiation to this Group, we usually ask
> that a new member prove definitively where Conquest was set, with
maps,
> reasoning and diagrams.Medication is available if required.John,
> Scrolls.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> >
> > So no gets left out, remember that 8pm Eastern Time is 7pm Central
> > Time, 6pm Mountain Time and 5pm Pacific Time...
>
> 20:00:00 Saturday November 12 in New York converts to
> 01:00:00 Sunday November 13, London
>
> Dave
>

>
> This is an awesome idea, James! Sorry, I can't make it, I will be at

> sci-fic convention this weekend. Any future guests, I definately

> Elaine
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi guys. I don't mean to ignore you all. Thanks for the welcome. I
> appear to be shut out of the chat, but I see your posts
intermittantly
> (sp). Just thought you might check the board. Keep on keeping on.
>
> Helen
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi guys. I don't mean to ignore you all. Thanks for the welcome. I
> appear to be shut out of the chat, but I see your posts
intermittantly
> (sp). Just thought you might check the board. Keep on keeping on.
>
> Helen
>

>

> both Joe and Ty Templeton.
> The good news is that they had a great time and Joe has emailed me

> he'd like to do it again after the comic comes out to get fan

>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> >
> But is was a great hour or so with
> > both Joe and Ty Templeton.
> > The good news is that they had a great time and Joe has emailed
me
> that
> > he'd like to do it again after the comic comes out to get fan
> feedback.
> >
>
> That is good news. I haven't had trouble with the chat feature
before
> (on this computer), so I am quite sure it was a bad hair day for
Yahoo!
> It looks like you had a busy and interesting exchange. I hope
someone
> will post a sort of "wrap up."
>
> Peace,
> Helen
>

>From: "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...>
>I am sorry I missed it. I tried to log into chat about 15 min. early
>and couldn't get in. I hope to be there for the next one.

Last night we had a wonderful online chat with both writers of the new POTA comic, "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes", Joe O'Brien & Ty Templeton. We were only expecting Joe and were pleasantly surprized when Ty joined us at the last minute.

Unfortunately there were several technical problems with Yahoo's chatroom function. Many members couldn't access the chatroom. Some were able to get in but only observe and not ask questions. And all of us that got in were booted from the room at one time or another, twice myself. Another problem was that the chat room wouldn't allow cutting & pasting of questions that were emailed or IMed to me nor would it allow us to save the chat.

However, despite these problems those who were able to attend had a great time and so did our guests. Joe emailed me afterwards and would like to do it again after to the first issue comes out. Also, I'm emailing him all the questions sent to me by members and he promised to email answers back to post in the group.

To recap some of the highpoints:

• The original concept for the comic was a war between Caesar and Thade. Fox wouldn't approve that so they eliminated Thade and kept the Caesar story.
• Many of the characters seen in Conquest and Battle will be featured including Lisa & Aldo. There was even some discussion if Lisa was the Chimp in the Mating Room in Conquest.
• Their favorite characters from the original films are Caesar, Zaius & Hasslein. They've been able to work in both Caesar and Zaius and would like to find a way to work in Hasslein. They are also big James Franciscus/Brent fans.
• There will be a side story in one of the issues about Little Caesar and Armando. They joked that they wanted Little Caesar to go into the pizza business.
• There are no plans at the moment to do anything in the TV series timeframe. However, that may change if they go beyond the six-issue mini-series.
• Going beyond the mini-series depends on fan reaction not only sales. So please be sure to write letters and emails to MR when they come out.

I'm sure there is a lot that I'm missing but I was busy fielding emails and IMs from those who couldn't get in to the chatroom. Those that got in please feel free to add anything that I missed.

>
>

>
> To recap some of the highpoints:
> There was even some discussion if Lisa was the Chimp in the

> I'm sure there is a lot that I'm missing but I was busy fielding

>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "mystic4ever" <mystic4ever@s...> wrote:
>
> I couldn't log into the chat, either, I kept getting error messages.
> Is the chat available in transcription?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dan
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> >
> >
> ***Thanks for the followup, James.
> >
> > To recap some of the highpoints:
> > There was even some discussion if Lisa was the Chimp in the
> Mating Room in Conquest.
>
> ***I would love to hear more about this.
>
> > I'm sure there is a lot that I'm missing but I was busy fielding
> emails and IMs from those who couldn't get in to the chatroom.
Those
> that got in please feel free to add anything that I missed.
> >
>
>
> ***Oops. Sorry about that!
>
> Helen
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
James asked me to add anything I remember, that he might have missed,
from that great hour and a half chat we had with two of the creators
of the new POTA comic, "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes", Joe
O'Brien and Ty Templeton, so here goes:

> To recap some of the highpoints:
> The original concept for the comic was a war between Caesar and
Thade. Fox wouldn't approve that so they eliminated Thade and kept
the Caesar story.
At first, Fox liked it, but in the end, didn't want this POTA venture
to have anything to do with the Burton film...They also said that
their original idea with Thade and Caesar was about as imaginative as
what we've seen so far of this finished product...
> Many of the characters seen in Conquest and Battle will be featured
including Lisa & Aldo. There was even some discussion if Lisa was the
Chimp in the Mating Room in Conquest.
There was also a hint of seeing the Lawgiver, but "not like you'd
expect"...
> Their favorite characters from the original films are Caesar, Zaius
& Hasslein. They've been able to work in both Caesar and Zaius and
would like to find a way to work in Hasslein. They are also big James
Franciscus/Brent fans.
They hinted at having a future story that involved Hasslein, if they
go beyond issue #6...They have Cornelius, Zira, Zaius, Caesar, Aldo
and Lisa, plus Taylor and I think Brent, in these six issues...
> There will be a side story in one of the issues about Little Caesar
and Armando. They joked that they wanted Little Caesar to go into the
pizza business.
Lil' Caesar's -- pizza-pizza -- oh, you had to be there...These guys
were funny...
> There are no plans at the moment to do anything in the TV series
timeframe. However, that may change if they go beyond the six-issue
mini-series.
They said they wanted to "explore" an idea of going beyond
Beneath...This could be an alternate universe idea...
> Going beyond the mini-series depends on fan reaction not only
sales. So please be sure to write letters and emails to MR when they
come out.
They read every e-mail they get, so please write them...There will
also be a snail-mail address in the issues that we can use...Future
issues, and ventures into many untouched aspects of POTA will all
depend upon us and our input...If "Revolution" goes well, and that
depends on us, the "sky's the limit" as far as more POTA comics is
concerned -- because it's up to MR Comics if there will be more
issues, not Fox...
> I'm sure there is a lot that I'm missing but I was busy fielding
emails and IMs from those who couldn't get in to the chatroom. Those
that got in please feel free to add anything that I missed.
I can't thank you enough, James, for arranging this...These two busy
Comic-creators took their valuable time out to talk with us, and give
us tid-bits to wet our appetites more (if that were possible!)...

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
>
> Last night we had a wonderful online chat with both writers of the
new POTA comic, "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes", Joe O'Brien &
Ty Templeton. We were only expecting Joe and were pleasantly
surprized when Ty joined us at the last minute.
>
> Unfortunately there were several technical problems with Yahoo's
chatroom function. Many members couldn't access the chatroom. Some
were able to get in but only observe and not ask questions. And all
of us that got in were booted from the room at one time or another,
twice myself. Another problem was that the chat room wouldn't allow
cutting & pasting of questions that were emailed or IMed to me nor
would it allow us to save the chat.
>
> However, despite these problems those who were able to attend had a
great time and so did our guests. Joe emailed me afterwards and would
like to do it again after to the first issue comes out. Also, I'm
emailing him all the questions sent to me by members and he promised
to email answers back to post in the group.
>
> To recap some of the highpoints:
> The original concept for the comic was a war between Caesar and
Thade. Fox wouldn't approve that so they eliminated Thade and kept
the Caesar story.Many of the characters seen in Conquest and Battle
will be featured including Lisa & Aldo. There was even some
discussion if Lisa was the Chimp in the Mating Room in Conquest.Their
favorite characters from the original films are Caesar, Zaius &
Hasslein. They've been able to work in both Caesar and Zaius and
would like to find a way to work in Hasslein. They are also big James
Franciscus/Brent fans. There will be a side story in one of the
issues about Little Caesar and Armando. They joked that they wanted
Little Caesar to go into the pizza business. There are no plans at
the moment to do anything in the TV series timeframe. However, that
may change if they go beyond the six-issue mini-series. Going beyond
the mini-series depends on fan reaction not only sales. So please be
sure to write letters and emails to MR when they come out.
> I'm sure there is a lot that I'm missing but I was busy fielding
emails and IMs from those who couldn't get in to the chatroom. Those
that got in please feel free to add anything that I missed.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, JamesA1102@a... wrote:
>
> Thought I would forward this so everyone could see.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph O'Brien
> To: JamesA1102@a...
> Sent: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:48:28 -0500
> Subject: RE: Questions
>
>
> Thanks for the questions, James. I?ll forward them on to Ty and we?
ll get some answers back for you this week.
>
> I?ll have a look at the website as well. Please tell everyone
thanks for their enthusiasm and support.
>
> Cheers,
> Joe
>
>
>
>
> --
> www.joseph-obrien.com
>
>
>
>
>
> From: JamesA1102@a... [JamesA1102@a...]
> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:26 AM
> To: job@r...
> Subject: Questions
>
> Joe,
>
> Here are some of the questions members emailed and IMed me last
night. I apologize if some of these topics were already covered in
the chat.
>
> Will this series be collected for a trade paperback, and, if so,
will there be any extras?
>
> How hopeful can we be of more series?
>
> Have you seen the Extended version of BATTLE and did it influence
your story at all?
>
> How much freedom did you have with your scripts---Marvel seem to
have had some problems with clearing certain things with Fox.
>
> Please, please, please can we have at least one short story based
on the TV Series!
>
> Was black and white ever considered or was it always going to be a
color book?
>
> Would you be allowed to re-visit the Marvel sagas, Terror and
Future History Chronicles,or would that be outside your license?
>
> Did you ever see the Malibu/Adventure series, which, for all its
faults, ran for 24 regular issues and several mini series?
>
> Will we see Ty Templeton's art on any of these strips---your work
on Spider-Man-Human Torch(especially your rendition of Black Cat!)
has left us panting for more!
>
> Do you have any idea how grateful us Apes fans are to you guys for
bringing Apes back?
>
> How did Metallic Rose start?
>
> Whose idea was it to do a POTA comic?
>
> How did they sell 20th on the idea?
>
> How was the talent assembled?
>
> Why did they choose the timeframe between "Conquest" and "Battle"?
>
> How will they decide whether or not they do more POTA comics after
this series?
>
> How easy (or difficult) was it to obtain the POTA licence?
>
> Do FOX have much of a say in what you can and cannot do?
>
> Has there ever been any hint from FOX of new APES projects (other
than your own) being in development
>
> Who are Mr Comics and how are they different from Metallic Rose?
>
> Is ?Revolution? still set in an alternate version of the 90?s?
>
> Can you give any hints for what may be in the pipeline
>
> You helped resurrect the RoboCop franchise for TV - Have you any
similar plans for APES?
> I think that is all of them. Thanks again to you and Ty for taking
the time to do the chat and answer our questions.
>
> James Aquila
>
> PS If you get a chance check out our group's website:
http://www.freewebs.com/planetoftheapes/ One of our member's restored
all of the old Marvel covers. Thought you might find them of interest.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> James asked me to add anything I remember, that he might have
missed,
> from that great hour and a half chat we had with two of the
creators
> of the new POTA comic, "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes", Joe
> O'Brien and Ty Templeton, so here goes:
>
> > To recap some of the highpoints:
> > The original concept for the comic was a war between Caesar and
> Thade. Fox wouldn't approve that so they eliminated Thade and kept
> the Caesar story.
> At first, Fox liked it, but in the end, didn't want this POTA
venture
> to have anything to do with the Burton film...They also said that
> their original idea with Thade and Caesar was about as imaginative
as
> what we've seen so far of this finished product...
> > Many of the characters seen in Conquest and Battle will be
featured
> including Lisa & Aldo. There was even some discussion if Lisa was
the
> Chimp in the Mating Room in Conquest.
> There was also a hint of seeing the Lawgiver, but "not like you'd
> expect"...
> > Their favorite characters from the original films are Caesar,
Zaius
> & Hasslein. They've been able to work in both Caesar and Zaius and
> would like to find a way to work in Hasslein. They are also big
James
> Franciscus/Brent fans.
> They hinted at having a future story that involved Hasslein, if
they
> go beyond issue #6...They have Cornelius, Zira, Zaius, Caesar,
Aldo
> and Lisa, plus Taylor and I think Brent, in these six issues...
> > There will be a side story in one of the issues about Little
Caesar
> and Armando. They joked that they wanted Little Caesar to go into
the
> pizza business.
> Lil' Caesar's -- pizza-pizza -- oh, you had to be there...These
guys
> were funny...
> > There are no plans at the moment to do anything in the TV series
> timeframe. However, that may change if they go beyond the six-
issue
> mini-series.
> They said they wanted to "explore" an idea of going beyond
> Beneath...This could be an alternate universe idea...
> > Going beyond the mini-series depends on fan reaction not only
> sales. So please be sure to write letters and emails to MR when
they
> come out.
> They read every e-mail they get, so please write them...There will
> also be a snail-mail address in the issues that we can
use...Future
> issues, and ventures into many untouched aspects of POTA will all
> depend upon us and our input...If "Revolution" goes well, and that
> depends on us, the "sky's the limit" as far as more POTA comics is
> concerned -- because it's up to MR Comics if there will be more
> issues, not Fox...
> > I'm sure there is a lot that I'm missing but I was busy fielding
> emails and IMs from those who couldn't get in to the chatroom.
Those
> that got in please feel free to add anything that I missed.
> I can't thank you enough, James, for arranging this...These two
busy
> Comic-creators took their valuable time out to talk with us, and
give
> us tid-bits to wet our appetites more (if that were possible!)...
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> Yahoo seems to have a lot of problems lately.
> There should be a better alternatve, like
> Wahoo, or Hoowah, or something.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
>
> Dan,
>
> Unfortunately, no...Yahoo doesn't allow "cut and paste"...Besides,
> James and I were both cut off at different points during the chat,
and
> thus, lost the thread each time...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "mystic4ever" <mystic4ever@s...>
wrote:
> >
> > I couldn't log into the chat, either, I kept getting error
messages.
> > Is the chat available in transcription?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Dan
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
>
> Oh, yeah, I almost forgot, Joe and Ty luved our banners (especially
> the ones that featured MR Comics in them!), that James creates -- and
> our "Lessons From the lawgiver", that everyone has a hand in...
>
> G
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> Well in their honor I put together a new home page pic featuring the
> comic. In addition the Home Page has also been redone, I finally
> figured out how to fit banners for all our features. Also added is a
> banner and link to the MR comics website. Come by everyone and take a
> look: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> >
> > Oh, yeah, I almost forgot, Joe and Ty luved our banners (especially
> > the ones that featured MR Comics in them!), that James creates --
and
> > our "Lessons From the lawgiver", that everyone has a hand in...
> >
> > G
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 11/14/2005 5:51:49 AM Central Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@a... writes:
>
> > When they were asked about why classic vs.
> > 2001; their response was "classic, of course". It nice to know that
> > the comic is in good hands.
>
> Yeah, but Ty also seems to have an affection for the pota2001 also...
If he
> didn't, he wouldn't have wanted to do something with the pota2001
characters
> initially, until FOX said "No" to the idea... If FOX hadn't nixed the
idea,
> right now, we'd be hearing about an all new comic starring Thade...
>

In a message dated 11/14/2005 5:51:49 AM Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

When they were asked about why classic vs.
2001; their response was "classic, of course". It nice to know that
the comic is in good hands.

Yeah, but Ty also seems to have an affection for the pota2001 also... If he didn't, he wouldn't have wanted to do something with the pota2001 characters initially, until FOX said "No" to the idea... If FOX hadn't nixed the idea, right now, we'd be hearing about an all new comic starring Thade...

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> There has been a rumor going around that the first issue of the new
> comic 'Revolution' has been delayed several weeks. This rumor is
untrue.
>
> We have been in contact with the President of MR Comics, Steve
> Ballantyne, and he has assured us that they are still scheduled for
a
> December 7th release. The comic is set to go to the printer on
November
> 30th. The rest depends on when a distributor (such as Diamond)
picks up
> their consignment and then ships to the stores.
>
> So if the comic is not in your local store by the 7th it should be
> there within a few days. Just check back later in the week.
>
> Feel free to share this post with any other group or message board.
We
> all wish for the success of the comic and want to quell this rumor
as
> fast as possible.
>

> Chimp in the Mating Room in Conquest."

>
> "There was even some discussion if Lisa was
> the
> > Chimp in the Mating Room in Conquest."
>
> I Always Took for granted that it WAS Lisa in Conquest AND in

> figured it was Mrs Trundy in both roles.Interesting. Well I gotta go
> but Thanks for the insightful and Stimulating Conversation!
>
>
> John
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "branchbrood" <branchbrood93@j...>
wrote:
> >
> > "There was even some discussion if Lisa was
> > the
> > > Chimp in the Mating Room in Conquest."
> >
> > I Always Took for granted that it WAS Lisa in Conquest AND in
> Battle, I
> > figured it was Mrs Trundy in both roles.Interesting. Well I gotta
go
> > but Thanks for the insightful and Stimulating Conversation!
> >
> >
> > John
> >
>
> What was their take on the incident?
>
> Helen
>

>
>
> In a message dated 11/18/2005 1:17:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> HotScheetz@a... writes:
>
> If I remember correctly, Ty and Joe also thought that the she-ape

> the insemination scene was Lisa...I believe James brought out that
> Natalie Trundy played the she-ape, which is where some confusion
> could arise, not to mention her looking like Lisa...
>
>
>
> Yeah, except for her hair.
> And she sure doesn't act like Lisa.
> She was so coy before it's a bit out
> of character. Perhaps they slipped her
> an aphrodisiac. A little Grape Juice Plus
> maybe. Does it matter if it's her or not?

>

>
>
> In a message dated 11/18/2005 1:17:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> HotScheetz@a... writes:
>
> If I remember correctly, Ty and Joe also thought that the she-ape

> the insemination scene was Lisa...I believe James brought out

> Natalie Trundy played the she-ape, which is where some confusion
> could arise, not to mention her looking like Lisa...
>
>
>
> Yeah, except for her hair.
> And she sure doesn't act like Lisa.
> She was so coy before it's a bit out
> of character. Perhaps they slipped her
> an aphrodisiac. A little Grape Juice Plus
> maybe. Does it matter if it's her or not?
>

>From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@...>
>Subject: Re: Now That's an Interesting Question you Pose...
>Thank you, LT, for validating my thoughts so precisely. Anyway, it
>matters if their offspring from that union ape-ears in a future
>storyline. What happened to that child? Who was he/she? And how
>does that character fit into the royal line? Was that part of the
>story a non-sequitor of no importance? Can't be. Caesar
>was "King." It matters.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/18/2005 1:17:49 A.M. Central Standard
Time,
> > HotScheetz@a... writes:
> >
> > If I remember correctly, Ty and Joe also thought that the she-
ape
> in
> > the insemination scene was Lisa...I believe James brought out
> that
> > Natalie Trundy played the she-ape, which is where some confusion
> > could arise, not to mention her looking like Lisa...
> >
> >
> >
> > Yeah, except for her hair.
> > And she sure doesn't act like Lisa.
> > She was so coy before it's a bit out
> > of character. Perhaps they slipped her
> > an aphrodisiac. A little Grape Juice Plus
> > maybe. Does it matter if it's her or not?
> >
>
> Thank you, LT, for validating my thoughts so precisely. Anyway, it
> matters if their offspring from that union ape-ears in a future
> storyline. What happened to that child? Who was he/she? And how
> does that character fit into the royal line? Was that part of the
> story a non-sequitor of no importance? Can't be. Caesar
> was "King." It matters.
>

>

>
> And just so everyone knows we have a mirror of the Group website

>

>
> In a message dated 11/18/2005 7:40:31 AM Central Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
> > Anyway, it matters if their offspring from that union ape-ears

> > storyline. What happened to that child? Who was he/she? And

> > does that character fit into the royal line? Was that part of

> > story a non-sequitor of no importance?
>
> How do you even know if this child would survive?

>
> Maybe the female in question was killed in the revolt...

> unsuccessful mating...

> anything....
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Yes!! I finally got in! This is the first time since the site has
> been up that I was able to access the one sheets! So, are there
still
> Easter Eggs embedded in the site? Has anyone found them all?
>
> Helen
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, JamesA1102@a... wrote:
>
> Cool. Here's a comparison I put together sometime back.
>
> --- In _pota@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:pota@yahoogroups.com) ,
_PofTAfan@a_
> (mailto:PofTAfan@a) ... wrote:
> >
> > Well. if you want to make a decision for yourself on the "Is
that Lisa or
> > another ape in the Insemination Room" here's are four photos for
you in
> the
> > group to see for yourself.
> >
> > The first two photos is the ape in question, the other two is
Lisa. look
> at
> > the photos and see for yourself. The female ape in the
insemination room
> is
> > not Lisa.
> >
> > Thank you. I rest my case.
> >
> > Kevin
> > PofTAfan
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@a... wrote:
>
> Well. if you want to make a decision for yourself on the "Is that
Lisa or
> another ape in the Insemination Room" here's are four photos for you
in the
> group to see for yourself.
>
> The first two photos is the ape in question, the other two is Lisa.
look at
> the photos and see for yourself. The female ape in the insemination
room is
> not Lisa.
>
> Thank you. I rest my case.
>
> Kevin
> PofTAfan
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 11/18/2005 9:56:21 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> PofTAfan@a... writes:
>
> The first two photos is the ape in question, the other two is
Lisa. look at
> the photos and see for yourself. The female ape in the
insemination room is
> not Lisa.
>
> Thank you. I rest my case.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
> What photos?
> There's nothing here.
>

You hit the nail on the head, Helen...What if she got pregnant,
where's the child?...This is a great, unexplored, storyline...

G

  It is a good storyline. What if she had twins? Elaine

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> >
> > 
> > In a message dated 11/18/2005 1:17:49 A.M. Central Standard
Time, 
> > HotScheetz@a... writes:
> >
> > If I  remember correctly, Ty and Joe also thought that the she-
ape
> in
> > the  insemination scene was Lisa...I believe James brought out
> that
> > Natalie  Trundy played the she-ape, which is where some confusion
> > could arise, not  to mention her looking like Lisa...
> >
> >
> > 
> > Yeah, except for her hair.
> > And she sure doesn't act like Lisa.
> > She was so coy before it's a bit out
> > of character.  Perhaps they slipped her
> > an aphrodisiac. A little Grape Juice Plus
> > maybe.  Does it matter if it's her or not?
> >
>
> Thank you, LT, for validating my thoughts so precisely.  Anyway, it
> matters if their offspring from that union ape-ears in a future
> storyline.  What happened to that child?  Who was he/she?  And how
> does that character fit into the royal line?  Was that part of the
> story a non-sequitor of no importance?  Can't be.  Caesar
> was "King."  It matters.
>









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In a message dated 11/18/2005 7:40:31 AM Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

Anyway, it matters if their offspring from that union ape-ears in a future
storyline.  What happened to that child?  Who was he/she?  And how
does that character fit into the royal line?  Was that part of the
story a non-sequitor of no importance?

How do you even know if this child would survive?

Maybe the female in question was killed in the revolt... Maybe it was an unsuccessful mating...Maybe it picked up on the "dumb gene" and never learned anything....

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> As far as aphrodisiacs, it would make sense to put the female in
> a receptive mood if you're trying to get them to mate.
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In a message dated 11/19/2005 9:28:02 A.M. Central Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:

  It is a good storyline. What if she had twins?

 

Romulus and Remus

  Romulus and Remus? Giving me ideas for fanfic. Elaine

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> Subject: Re: Digest Number 2406
>
> I've always been of the contention
> that Caesar and Lisa had another
> child, but what if Alexander were
> the grandson of Caesar and the she-
> ape from Conquest? Hmmm...food
> for thought.

> The vast majority of the 'MONKEY-MINDS'(As I like to define us POTA
> fans)

Of course, deleted scenes are not canon. But Battle had certain scenes restored and released by FOX for both TV distribution and the Lasar disk. Thus, by definition those scenes ARE canon. They can't be discounted because they don't fit in to one's personal theory.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...> wrote:
>
> Monkey-Minds,
>
> Another idea popped up in my twisted, space-time continuums filled
> mind. What if Caesar's efforts were so effective to drastically
> change Taylor's future? Oh ------> yes, we' ve talked about this at
> least 4.500 times, but I was thinking... to another perspective now.
>
> It has been estabilished that the time chronometers on ANSA ships
> suck very bad and don't properly work if are given the overdue
> stress. What if Virdon and Burke (and Jones's corpse for instance)
> emerged in 4500 A.C, or even further, along the APELINE TWO where
> Caesar somehow prevented the Alpha-Omega bomb by killing Kolp
> (forget the BFTPOTA deleted scenes, they are *NOT* canon) but wasn't
> able to disrupt the blood heritage of the 'Apes Vs. Humans' issue at
> all? (the crying statue was an omen, thus)- So, the continuum RET-
> CONNED itself to the point the bomb never blew up the POTA in 3978/9
> A.C., and Humans had the chance to evolve themselves to the rural
> state we can see and enjoy in the series. The chronometer was just
> wrong, it wasn't 3085 A.C. (even Virdon stated it didn't work
> properly). Maybe the NEW YORK pic which spawned so much controversy
> among us was... FAKE or illusory (a design).
>
> Is there some evidence in the series to support such theories? For a
> moment forget the 'Circular Theory' issue, please. For a moment
> forget you don't retain that the series fits well with the 5 movies,
> please. For a moment, let's pretend everuthing I was saying is 'in
> tune' with your believings, and let me know if there's EVIDENCE in
> the series to back up my line of thought.
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>

>
> Rich Handley <handleyr@o...> wrote:
> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 2406
> >
> > I've always been of the contention
> > that Caesar and Lisa had another
> > child, but what if Alexander were
> > the grandson of Caesar and the she-
> > ape from Conquest? Hmmm...food
> > for thought.
>
> I don't think this works though, and here's my
> reasoning. Something that I never ever noticed
> when reading the series originally, but that
> struck me when I was re-reading the series for the
> piece I wrote for Scrolls... Alexander, despite
> being Caesar's grandson, appears to be an
> orangutan! Granted, there is some margin for error
> since the comic is in black and white (you could
> argue he's just a chimp with bright coloured hair)
> except that the covers are in colour. Take a look,
> for example, at the cover of the wedding issue
> (#12 I think) and it's confirmed. So it looks like
> Caesar must've done the nasty with an orang at
> some point!
>
> Alan
>

>
> Monkey-Minds,
>
> Another idea popped up in my twisted, space-time continuums filled
> mind. What if Caesar's efforts were so effective to drastically
> change Taylor's future? Oh ------> yes, we' ve talked about this

> least 4.500 times, but I was thinking... to another perspective

>
> It has been estabilished that the time chronometers on ANSA ships
> suck very bad and don't properly work if are given the overdue
> stress. What if Virdon and Burke (and Jones's corpse for instance)
> emerged in 4500 A.C, or even further, along the APELINE TWO where
> Caesar somehow prevented the Alpha-Omega bomb by killing Kolp
> (forget the BFTPOTA deleted scenes, they are *NOT* canon) but

> able to disrupt the blood heritage of the 'Apes Vs. Humans' issue

> all? (the crying statue was an omen, thus)- So, the continuum RET-
> CONNED itself to the point the bomb never blew up the POTA in

> A.C., and Humans had the chance to evolve themselves to the rural
> state we can see and enjoy in the series. The chronometer was just
> wrong, it wasn't 3085 A.C. (even Virdon stated it didn't work
> properly). Maybe the NEW YORK pic which spawned so much

> among us was... FAKE or illusory (a design).
>
> Is there some evidence in the series to support such theories? For

> moment forget the 'Circular Theory' issue, please. For a moment
> forget you don't retain that the series fits well with the 5

> please. For a moment, let's pretend everuthing I was saying is 'in
> tune' with your believings, and let me know if there's EVIDENCE in
> the series to back up my line of thought.
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
>
> Whether they're discounted or included they make no difference, the
APES saga
> is an open-end cycle -- the avenues into the future don't necessarily
lead to
> the same future. It can be changed.
>
> -- Rory
>
> P.S.
>
> Caesar would want it to be so.
>

> And that is impossible to happen... The great apes species cannot