--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...> wrote:
>
> Verry funny, LORD ZERO. After all, your nickname says it all ----
> why am I wasting my time with YOU then?
>
> I feel compassion, that's why.
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
>
>
> This is exactly what I don't understand, since it seems pretty "face
value"
> to me that the events of CONQUEST and BATTLE aren't what Cornelius
told of in
> ESCAPE, hence the "future" is altered within the five-film series
itself --
> hence TWO timelines!
>
> Pretty damn "self-evident" if you ask me!
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@a... wrote:
>
> The timeline was altered when Cornelius said that sometime in the future
> that the plague killed off the dogs and cats, but when the ape-o-nauts arrived
> the plague came sooner, also he said that primative apes were taught to do
> tasks for their human masters and then slaves in about two centuries, then the
> ape revolt happened five centuries later into the future but came about 18
> years later.

I don't think Cornelius ever said when the plague happened. So we don't know if it was sooner or not.
>
> But let throw this question for you to ponder. Maybe Cornelius
> knew the actual dates of the plague and the ape revolt because he read the
> Sacred Scrolls and something on the revolution of the apes and maybe the actual
> date and didn't tell the interrogators that so that wouldn't change the
> course of history.
>
> That's my opinion. Just a thought.
> Kevin
> PofTAfan
>
Exactly my earlier point. We never see the events that Cornelius relates so we can't judge how accurate they are. One explaination for the inconsistancy is an alternate timeline. The scenario you state above can be another equally valid explaination. Another could be that the Apes history records were just not very accurate.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> I have nothing against his, or Patricks, or anyone else's ideas.
> All I ask for is some sort of a basis in, well not reality, but in
> the story, somewhere. Wild speculation and conjecture is
> all well and good, but without something to back it up, it's
> just so much balloon juice. I can't evaluate something
> like that. It's like Patrick and his Mother Ship.
> Maybe he is intelligent. But he's also crazy.
>

But that's not a direct statement. As I stated in another post, it is an extrapolation based on an inconsistancy. And since the audience never sees the events Cornelius related first hand, there is no way to judge how accurate it was.

Now compare that with direct statements like this:

Milo in Escape: "And Earth will be destroyed just as we saw it".

The Lawgiver in Battle: "And God sent the world a savior miraculously born of two Apes who had decended on Earth from Earth's own future".

MacDonald in Battle: "There are tapes, sealed tapes of Cornelius & Zira being examined by officials of the American government...And I know they concern Earth's future, from which your parents came".

Caesar in Battle: "I went looking for my past but I found our future".

Now anything a character says is put into his mouth by the writer, so it is clear to see the writer's intent. The same is true of a character's motivation. Both Hasslein and Breck are motivated by the belief that Milo/Caesar's existance is the catalyst that will cause the rise of Apes & downfall of man. And both believe that by killing Milo/Caesar removes the threat to mankind and in effect changes lanes from the future that C&Z came from.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 11/26/2005 8:05:47 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> Haristas@a... writes:
>
> Pretty damn "self-evident" if you ask me!
>
>
>
> I have to agree. And I think that where the two lines
> diverge is the sending of Taylor's ship into the future.
> It was that, and the return of the ship with the Ape-
> O-Nauts in it. So in a sense Hasslein was right.
> It was his fault. My dialogue evidence is this.
> Aldo was not the first ape to say, No. Lisa
> was. There for the time line was altered.
>
> QED
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
>
> Yeah, it's surprising that this post was allowed to go thru without
being
> "banned", but I tried to make a post that wasn't nearly as much of
a "flame" post
> as this guys is and it was banned... I guess there ARE favorites in
this
> group after all...
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 11/26/2005 11:41:24 P.M. Central Standard
Time,
> JamesA1102@a... writes:
>
> Let's not bash Patrick since he is not here to defend himself.
While I
> don't agree with most of his theories, they are very creative and
> imaginative.
>
>
>
> I'm all for Pat's, or anyone else's, "wild and crazy" theories.
> But if you're going to put one forth, you should be able to
> defend your position. And I don't know how they can be
> defended without some sort of basis in what would be
> considered POTA cannon, whether book, movie or show.
> I'm glad there's the latitude to put forth anything you can
> think of. But you should also have some evidence that
> can be debated as to why you think that is the case.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> That's exactly my point. It is an extrapolation based on an
> inconsistency (or mistake). Remove Cornelius' timeframe of
centuries
> and the name of the Ape who said 'No' and it is perfectly
consistant
> with what is presented in Conquest & Battle (as well as what was
> established in Planet & Beneath, as well as Cornelius' earlier
line in
> Escape that Apes spoke English for 2000 years).
>
> Now an alternate or dual timeline is one creative explanation for
the
> inconsistancies but it is only one. There are others that are just
as
> valid particularly since the audience never witnesses the events
as
> Cornelius stated them, hence they are hearsay at best.
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> >
> >
> > This is exactly what I don't understand, since it seems
pretty "face
> value"
> > to me that the events of CONQUEST and BATTLE aren't what
Cornelius
> told of in
> > ESCAPE, hence the "future" is altered within the five-film
series
> itself --
> > hence TWO timelines!
> >
> > Pretty damn "self-evident" if you ask me!
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:08 PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Cool!


> Forthcoming release:
>
> http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=840682&p=39&g=53&pa=gencs
>
> Hell of a price for something I've already got,
> but man I'm tempted...
>
> Alan

>
> Jimmy, so you're saying that the 'Sacred Secret Scrolls' were re-
> elaborate and wrong reconstructions of the history we see in
> ESCAPE/CONQUEST/BATTLE? Mmmm a little bit far-fetched if you ask

>

> They talk about 'Earth's future' because it's much more

> and convenient to express in those terms. And I think the story
> escaped to DEHN himself to the point a double timeline is created -

> and it's even STATED! (Hasslein, Caesar, Virgil and so on).

>
> Hey! I read ESCAPE's script long time ago, and Cornelius DID

> the Plague. Still, ESCAPE is my least known POTA film so please,
> since movies and not scripts are *CANON*, can you say me if
> Cornelius mentioned the Plague in the movie?
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, but my problem with that is if Cornelius was so knowledgeable
then why
> couldn't he have kept himself and his wife from being shot?
>
> -- Rory
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "branchbrood" <branchbrood93@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 8:26 PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Now That's an Interesting Question you Pose...


> "There was even some discussion if Lisa was
> the
>> Chimp in the Mating Room in Conquest."
>
> I Always Took for granted that it WAS Lisa in Conquest AND in Battle, I
> figured it was Mrs Trundy in both roles.Interesting. Well I gotta go
> but Thanks for the insightful and Stimulating Conversation!
>
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Call me a purest, but I have to agree with this...The original novel
presented the whole rise of the apes in a somewhat vague, mysterious
way...I loved that whole sequence in the book...

G

 I prefer also having the rise of the apes as a mystery. The apes may have many different theories as to why they came to power. Elaine

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>
>
> But that's not a direct statement. As I stated in another post, it

>
> Now compare that with direct statements like this:
>
> Milo in Escape: "And Earth will be destroyed just as we saw it".
>
>
> The Lawgiver in Battle: "And God sent the world a savior

>
>
> MacDonald in Battle: "There are tapes, sealed tapes of Cornelius &

>
> Caesar in Battle: "I went looking for my past but I found our

>
> Now anything a character says is put into his mouth by the writer,

>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@a... wrote:
>
> I have to disagree on your theory. Not trying to be rude. But how
could this
> be a circular timeline. If Cornelius, Zira and Milo did not come
back from
> the future to the present earth, Taylor still would have
destroyed the earth
> and the timeline would have ended there. But I think that the
timeline was
> more like a something you see at a railroad junction, you have
many tracks all
> leading to a particular point.
>
> You made several good points by using comments from Milo,
MacDonald
> and Ceasar, but you also have to look at what Dr. Hasselein said.
>
> Hasselein said" that time is like a freeway with an infinite
number of
> lanes--all leading from the past into the future. But not into
the same future. A
> driver in lane "A" may crash, while a driver in Lane "B" survive".
>
> Another reason I think that this is not a circular
timeline is that
> when Ceasar, Virgil and MacDonald saw the tape of the
interrogation Ceasar
> said that "I know what it is that I want to change." but before
Ceasar said
> that comment Virgil said that " By changing lanes, can change his
future."
>
> And remember. At the end of Battle, The Lawgiver said that they
were waiting
> for the arrival of Taylor because my theory is that Zira and
Cornelius are
> now part of the Sacred Scrolls.
>
> To me this prove that this is not a circular timeline but a
timeline with
> many lanes.
>
> Kevin
> PofTAfan
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@a... wrote:
>
> I have to disagree on your theory. Not trying to be rude.

You're not being rude at all. This exactly what this group is for, discussion. However, I will point out that part of my theory is based on statements made by Paul Dehn who wrote all of the sequels. And on several occassions he clearly stated that the series was meant to be a circle.

> But how could this
> be a circular timeline. If Cornelius, Zira and Milo did not come back from
> the future to the present earth, Taylor still would have destroyed the earth
> and the timeline would have ended there.

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe if C&Z had not gone back in time Taylor may have wound up on a far different Earth of the future. Just like in 'The Terminator' if John Connor had not sent Kyle Reese back in time to become his father, he never would have been born to send Reese back in time.

>But I think that the timeline was
> more like a something you see at a railroad junction, you have many tracks all
> leading to a particular point.
>

Interesting theory.

> You made several good points by using comments from Milo, MacDonald
> and Ceasar, but you also have to look at what Dr. Hasselein said.
>
> Hasselein said" that time is like a freeway with an infinite number of
> lanes--all leading from the past into the future. But not into the same future. A
> driver in lane "A" may crash, while a driver in Lane "B" survive".

Right but he never says that they come from multiple pasts. So there are different possiblities for the future but they all come from the same past. And Hasslein is convinced that the world is in the lane for the future C&Z come from and that by killing them will in effect change lanes. Thus, Hasslein believes that C&Z's presence in the past (& present) is the catalyst that will lead to the future they come from.

>
> Another reason I think that this is not a circular timeline is that
> when Ceasar, Virgil and MacDonald saw the tape of the interrogation Ceasar
> said that "I know what it is that I want to change." but before Ceasar said
> that comment Virgil said that " By changing lanes, can change his future."
>

Again they are saying there are multiple futures but not multiple pasts. And again they believe they are already in the lane to the future C&Z came from and that they need to make a change to avoid that future.

> And remember. At the end of Battle, The Lawgiver said that they were waiting
> for the arrival of Taylor because my theory is that Zira and Cornelius are
> now part of the Sacred Scrolls.

The Lawgiver never says anything about Taylor in Battle.
>
> To me this prove that this is not a circular timeline but a timeline with
> many lanes.
>
I agree with you about it being a timeline with many lanes but if a second timeline was created it was due to Caesar's actions in Battle, not by C&Z's arrival in Escape. Battle is the fork in the road. If man & ape can continue to live together in peace, then the future is safe. If not, they will end up destroying each other and the world.

----- Original Message -----
From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:10 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: I, Robot


> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> >
> > "I, Robot". I didn't like it, seemed very run of the mill, the
> usual Will
> > Smith clap trap. It also reminded me a bit of the "Alien Nation"
> movie.
> > Considering the positive reviews it got here, maybe I should see
> it again. I
> > want to give Fox every benefit of the doubt. The director is
> highly regarded
> > and reportedly he became yet another director Fox burned their
> bridges with
> > because of his treatment (like Burton and Brian Singer). - - - Jeff
> >
>
> Hey, Jeff!
>
> I really like Azimov's Robot books. I don't think any movie can do
> them justice. (I feel that way about Narnia, also, so I'm waiting
> to see what happens there.) I didn't especially love "I Robot",
> either. I think it lacked heart. I do agree with Hunter that the
> movie was very "Conquesty", though. And, leaving the Azimov
> expectations behind, I had fun rehashing it afterwards with the
> kids. Some parts of it were pretty cool. And I definitely think it
> got better as it went along -- unlike some movies which just hang.
>
> Bet this doesn't make much sense to a person who regulary reviews
> movies, but that is my memory of the movie, which actually didn't
> leave much of an impression in the long run.
>
> BTW: I really liked "The Bicentennial Man." It had heart. Although
> I liked Azimov's "The Positronic Man" on which it was based much
> more.
>
> Helen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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from IMDB:

Bicentennial Man (1999)

Directed by Chris Columbus Writing credits (WGA) Isaac Asimov (short story The Bicentennial Man) Isaac Asimov (novel) ...  (more)

>
> Hi Helen!
>
> Wasn't "Bicentennial Man" directed by Chris Columbus? He was among

> in line to do POTA but got rich directing the first two Harry Potters
> instead, and now "Rent". I never liked his work much, very bland

> think his POTA would've even been worse than Burton's, a bad bad

> instead of a good bad movie, if that makes any sense. At least

> the visuals. - - - Jeff
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 11/27/2005 5:37:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> PofTAfan@a... writes:
>
> The Lawgiver said that they were waiting for the arrival of Taylor
>
>
>
> When did he say that?
>

>
> Hey guys,
>
> I'm re-touching my Timeline. Can you report me the EXACT quotes of

> Lawgiver in BATTLE when explaining Caesar's 'escape' from the

> I'm wondering how much time Caesar and the Apes spent in the city
> before moving themselves out of it in order to create a safer 'Ape
> City' far from the war.
> If CONQUEST is set in 1991, the war begins in 1992, maybe they

> in 1994 and started to built 'Ape City'.
> Since Mandemus has been the keeper of the weaponry for 27 years,

> 1994+ 27 = 2031.
>
> I need the quotes in order to 'grasp' the shades... :)
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/27/2005 5:37:23 P.M. Central Standard

> > PofTAfan@a... writes:
> >
> > The Lawgiver said that they were waiting for the arrival of

> >
> >
> >
> > When did he say that?
> >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Helen

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 12:39 PM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Bicentennial Man [OT]

from IMDB:

Bicentennial Man (1999)

Directed by Chris Columbus Writing credits (WGA) Isaac Asimov (short story The Bicentennial Man) Isaac Asimov (novel) ...  (more)

>
> And the point of this post is ?
>
> Robert Mansell
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 11/28/2005 10:34:59 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> LordTZer0@A... writes:
> In a message dated 11/28/2005 8:13:35 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
> POTA 2001 was definitely a pop-up book!
>
> Helen
>
>
> Without a doubt! Here we are in the spaceship. That was the hunt.
> Did you miss it? Now onto the city. Here we go on the Escape!
> One of the things about the original was it's pacing. Someone asked
> Schaffner why he spent so long on the astronauts wandering the
desert.
> His answer was because it sets the tone for the whole film. He sure
> got that right. It makes the film, a film, and less of a theme
park ride.
> Though admittedly, if I'm pressed for time it's the part I skip
through.
>
> It seems that most movies today could be described as a theme park
ride with
> so much emphasis on special effects. Elaine
>
>
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 11/28/2005 8:13:35 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
> POTA 2001 was definitely a pop-up book!
>
> Helen
>
>
>
>
> Without a doubt! Here we are in the spaceship. That was the hunt.
> Did you miss it? Now onto the city. Here we go on the Escape!
> One of the things about the original was it's pacing. Someone
asked
> Schaffner why he spent so long on the astronauts wandering the
desert.
> His answer was because it sets the tone for the whole film. He
sure
> got that right. It makes the film, a film, and less of a theme
park ride.
> Though admittedly, if I'm pressed for time it's the part I skip
through.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@a... wrote:
I goofed!
>

>
> There can't be two of something in a singular timeline.
>
> -- Rory

> 23 is a recurrent
> one in the POTA saga,

POTA01 was also a lackluster, "Reader's Digest" storyline that threw
you at a simplistic, predictable ending...POTA68 was a well thought-
out/developed storyline that pulled you in and propelled you along to
a shocking end (one that still hangs on after 35+ years)...IMHO...=)

G

  Lack of character development is the major flaw with pota 2001 and is typical of many

  movies today. The movies introduce interesting characters but never develop them. I saw a

  movie called the Chronicles Of Riddick  in which there were many interesting characters

  but the movie was all about special effects, no character development. Elaine

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
>
> My favorite number has, since 1968, been 44. Can anyone guess why?
>
> -- Rory
>

> Last night on Jay Leno they showed a clip of Kong fighting three T-Rexs out
> to make a little snack of Ann Darrow.

> It was pretty good, but what I don't
> like about this Kong is that he isn't as awesome a beast that the original was.
> He's just a big gorilla, and Ann Darrow this time looks at him like he's a
> lovable pet dog. More like a remake of the '76 version than the original.

> what I don't
> like about this Kong is that he isn't as awesome a beast that the
> original was.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hunter Goatley" <goathunter@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: 4-minute KONG preview


> > Last night on Jay Leno they showed a clip of Kong fighting three T-Rexs
out
> > to make a little snack of Ann Darrow.
>
> You can download that interview segment from www.kongisking.net, too.
>
> > It was pretty good, but what I don't
> > like about this Kong is that he isn't as awesome a beast that the
original was.
> > He's just a big gorilla, and Ann Darrow this time looks at him like he's
a
> > lovable pet dog. More like a remake of the '76 version than the
original.
>
> Since we haven't seen it yet, who knows, but I think Ann's feelings
> for him change into that. I suppose that aspect of it is more like
> the '76 version than the '33 version, but I'm OK with that. (I'm a
> fan of both the '33 and the '76 versions.) In fact, I'm just amazed
> at how great Kong looks and acts in that preview clip. He acts like a
> gorilla, turning his back on her and stuff. Those images have stuck
> with me all day.
>
> Hunter
>
>
>
>
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 11/30/2005 2:05:40 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> NMoline@G... writes:
>
> Pick this up December 7th!
>
>
>
>
> Where?
>

> Does no one here know the significance of 44 in POTA lore?!!!
>
> I'm shocked! Who are you people?!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 12/1/05 10:00:46 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
>
> > Someone mentioned it but...
> >
> > Is it because you owned the Topps 44-card Planet Of The Apes Card Set,
> > issued in 1969, and based on the classic 1968 POTA movie?
> >
> > --Helen
> >
>
> I didn't see who else mentioned it, but YES! that's the reason 44 remains my
> favorite number. Back in '68 there was no DVDs or video cassettes, and PLANET
> would come to TV until 1973! Once it was gone from theatres it was gone! I
> used to look at those 44 POTA cards every day back then. It was the only way
> to relive the movie!
>
> -- Rory
>

> Ok....this is freaky....

>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" wrote:
>
> My guess was the 44 card set. I mentioned it in my 'Number 44'
> post. Do I win a bottle of
> Grape Juice Plus?
>
>
> Nice work, Mark. Seems fair to me...
>
> --Helen
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
>
> This week's Lesson from the Lawgiver has been posted. It can be
accessed via the banner on the Yahoo Home Page or by using this link:
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>
> This is the second of a special four part Lesson. Thanks again to
all who contributed.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
>
> This week's Lesson from the Lawgiver has been posted. It can be
accessed via the banner on the Yahoo Home Page or by using this
link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm .
>
> This is the second of a special four part Lesson. Thanks again to
all who contributed.
>

> I would like to see this!
>
> The poster of BENEATH featuring ZAIUS and many small
> pics... I found a
> pic of it on ALLPOSTERS but it's too small!
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
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> Sheesh! Does someone here write for Harlequin?

>
> Hey guys,
>
> I need to know:
>
> 1- The name of the 3 astronauts involved in George Taylor's

>
> 2- Is Brent's birth-name 'JOHN'? JOHN CHRISTOPHER
>
> 3- Specific fictional dates of RETURN TO POTA.
>
> 4- In the end of BOULLE's book, Ulysse Mérou, Nova and their child

> the only survivors to escape from POTA. How has the child been

>
> Many thanks in advance.
>

>
> Aha!...Now we know that Helen reads Harlequin Romances!...
>
> G
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
wrote:
> >
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > I need to know:
> >
> > 1- The name of the 3 astronauts involved in George Taylor's
> expedition. DODGE, STEWART and LANDON...
> >
> > 2- Is Brent's birth-name 'JOHN'? JOHN CHRISTOPHER
> >
> > 3- Specific fictional dates of RETURN TO POTA.
> >
> > 4- In the end of BOULLE's book, Ulysse Mérou, Nova and their
child
> are
> > the only survivors to escape from POTA. How has the child been
> named? SIRIUS
> >
> > Many thanks in advance.
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...> wrote:
>
> The birth-names of George Taylor's crew and the fictional dates of
> RETURN ppleazzzzeee.
>
>

>I don't believe that Landon, Dodge and Stewart were ever given first
>names. I tend to think of them as Buzz, Issac and Martha myself;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "handleyr@o..." <handleyr@o...> wrote:
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> LOL -- I believe Landon's first name is John, as per the Marvel
adaptation.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
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> Hmm. www.thedigitalbits.com says Fox will release new single
disc editions of the "Apes" sequels (at least "Beneath"
and "Conquest") on March 28. Will this be their remastered version
like the 35th anniversary one? If so, probably puts "special editions"
of the sequels farther away, if at all. - - - Jeff
>