--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
>
> Nice, James, really nice...You've outdone yourself on this one...
>
> G
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
>
> Yes, nice work James. Great depth. Photoshop?
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> >
> > Nice, James, really nice...You've outdone yourself on this one...
> >
> > G
> >
>

>
> This has always bothered me. Why would Armando dress Caesar in

> similar to Cornelius if he's trying to hide Caesar's identity? He
> changed his name from Milo to hide any connection with C&Z. So why
> would Armando put Caesar in a similar outfit?
>
>

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>
> Damn. I'm not a Peter Jackson fan, but I'm hoping the hairy brute

> not Jackson) can kick start an Ape phase for movies.There IS an
> excellent, very popular, well established and famous cultural icon

> an Apes franchise out there that WOULD( and always has) make big
> opening bucks, if the idiot bean counters would wake up.Anybody able

> guess what that franchise is? John, Scrolls.
>

>
>
> This week's Lesson from the Lawgiver is now available. > You can

>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 12/16/2005 8:31:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> apecalypsenow@y... writes:
>
> This one is very important for the writing of my 'scenario'!
>
>
>
>
> I don't get it.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
>
> It's 3 hours long. A lot of people will not go to a
> 3 hour movie unless it's very, very good.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 12/16/2005 7:48:27 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> apecalypsenow@y... writes:
>
> Well, PLANET, BENEATH, ESCAPE, CONQUEST, BATTLE, this one also
needs a
> friggin' name !!!
>
>
>
> No I mean the story.
> I don't get that.
>

>
> POTA 2001 was a POTENTIAL FUTURE which went (literally) erased in

> specific 'moment' Cornelius, Zira and Milo emerged into 1973 A.C.
> and altered the original timeline.
>
> Yes, listen carefully.
>
> OBERON/LEO/PERICLE belong to the same original timeline of Taylor
> and Brent (APELINE ONE). They all happened to travel through the
> Hasslein Curve III a.k.a TASK III (the electric storm) and

> at very different times - on PLANET EARTH after the DOOMSDAY BOMB
> annihiled the previous 'Planet of the Apes' setting and

> (see the ending of BENEATH). They emerged long long long time

> that event (3979 A.C.) ... according to the OBERON's electronic

> log, the station time warped in the 51th Century indeed.
> After all that time, the Planet has been totally re-modeled by the
> DOOMSDAY. Weather, temperatures, soils, eco-systems... everything
> should seem "alien". A new planetary satellite (a gianteous comet?)
> has been 'absorbed' by Earth's orbit, thus resulting into the
> creation of a NEW MOON.
>
> With OBERON's influx and presence, a new PLANET of the APES has

> originated.
>
> Leo Davidson emerged into the 91th Century, or maybe even further.
> There's no proof he timewarped in 8000 A.C., that's a mere
> speculation of the novelization of POTA 2001.
>
> THIS POTENTIAL FUTURE comes to EXIST between the DOOMSDAY BOMB's
> undeniable explosion and the 'moment' in which the APE-O-NAUTS go
> assimilated by the TIME WARP. AS the Ape-O-Nauts manage to EMERGE
> into 1973 A.C., thus altering the continuum, the whole POTA 2001
> future is istantaneously erased, as well as PLANET and BENEATH.
> The Oberon station (APELINE ONE's 2027 A.C.) never came to be,

> in APELINE TWO (Caesar's Timeline) the Nuclear War broke out in

> and civilization was wiped out in few years. BATTLE takes place in
> 2021 indeed.
>
> Basically, now there are TWO trilogies. TAYLOR TRILOGY -
> PLANET/BENEATH/POTA 2001 and CAESAR TRILOGY -

>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
> **DISCLAIMER**
>
> THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE NEGATIVE!!
>
> Now, then... Is there some reason why you would want to connect
the
> two -- Classic/2001 -- rather than just leave it alone and let the
> two be two entirely separate entities?
>
> Helen
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > POTA 2001 was a POTENTIAL FUTURE which went (literally) erased in
> the
> > specific 'moment' Cornelius, Zira and Milo emerged into 1973 A.C.
> > and altered the original timeline.
> >
> > Yes, listen carefully.
> >
> > OBERON/LEO/PERICLE belong to the same original timeline of Taylor
> > and Brent (APELINE ONE). They all happened to travel through the
> > Hasslein Curve III a.k.a TASK III (the electric storm) and
> crashed -
> > at very different times - on PLANET EARTH after the DOOMSDAY BOMB
> > annihiled the previous 'Planet of the Apes' setting and
> civilization
> > (see the ending of BENEATH). They emerged long long long time
> after
> > that event (3979 A.C.) ... according to the OBERON's electronic
> last
> > log, the station time warped in the 51th Century indeed.
> > After all that time, the Planet has been totally re-modeled by the
> > DOOMSDAY. Weather, temperatures, soils, eco-systems... everything
> > should seem "alien". A new planetary satellite (a gianteous
comet?)
> > has been 'absorbed' by Earth's orbit, thus resulting into the
> > creation of a NEW MOON.
> >
> > With OBERON's influx and presence, a new PLANET of the APES has
> been
> > originated.
> >
> > Leo Davidson emerged into the 91th Century, or maybe even further.
> > There's no proof he timewarped in 8000 A.C., that's a mere
> > speculation of the novelization of POTA 2001.
> >
> > THIS POTENTIAL FUTURE comes to EXIST between the DOOMSDAY BOMB's
> > undeniable explosion and the 'moment' in which the APE-O-NAUTS go
> > assimilated by the TIME WARP. AS the Ape-O-Nauts manage to EMERGE
> > into 1973 A.C., thus altering the continuum, the whole POTA 2001
> > future is istantaneously erased, as well as PLANET and BENEATH.
> > The Oberon station (APELINE ONE's 2027 A.C.) never came to be,
> since
> > in APELINE TWO (Caesar's Timeline) the Nuclear War broke out in
> 1992
> > and civilization was wiped out in few years. BATTLE takes place in
> > 2021 indeed.
> >
> > Basically, now there are TWO trilogies. TAYLOR TRILOGY -
> > PLANET/BENEATH/POTA 2001 and CAESAR TRILOGY -
> ESCAPE/CONQUEST/BATTLE.
> >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com ; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 12:36 AM

Subject: [Planet of the Apes] RAT PATROL is coming!

Get ready for THE RAT PATROL coming out on DVD on January 31, and see Hans Gudegast (AKA Eric Braeden) take on those nasty Yanks and Brits.  You'll learn of Dr. Hasslein's secret Nazi past (Which took place in an alternate timeline, by the way -- and it sure as hell wasn't circular!).

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Sophie" <cardwitch91@y...> wrote:
>
> It's interesting to try and connect the two as it's been proven to
be
> possible. Of course there are alternate timelines that are
different
> from one another depending on what way you believe in. Personally,
I
> don't mind, though I prefer to follow Ceaser's line.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
> >
> > **DISCLAIMER**
> >
> > THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE NEGATIVE!!
> >
> > Now, then... Is there some reason why you would want to connect
> the
> > two -- Classic/2001 -- rather than just leave it alone and let
the
> > two be two entirely separate entities?
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
<apecalypsenow@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > POTA 2001 was a POTENTIAL FUTURE which went (literally) erased
in
> > the
> > > specific 'moment' Cornelius, Zira and Milo emerged into 1973
A.C.
> > > and altered the original timeline.
> > >
> > > Yes, listen carefully.
> > >
> > > OBERON/LEO/PERICLE belong to the same original timeline of
Taylor
> > > and Brent (APELINE ONE). They all happened to travel through
the
> > > Hasslein Curve III a.k.a TASK III (the electric storm) and
> > crashed -
> > > at very different times - on PLANET EARTH after the DOOMSDAY
BOMB
> > > annihiled the previous 'Planet of the Apes' setting and
> > civilization
> > > (see the ending of BENEATH). They emerged long long long time
> > after
> > > that event (3979 A.C.) ... according to the OBERON's
electronic
> > last
> > > log, the station time warped in the 51th Century indeed.
> > > After all that time, the Planet has been totally re-modeled by
the
> > > DOOMSDAY. Weather, temperatures, soils, eco-systems...
everything
> > > should seem "alien". A new planetary satellite (a gianteous
> comet?)
> > > has been 'absorbed' by Earth's orbit, thus resulting into the
> > > creation of a NEW MOON.
> > >
> > > With OBERON's influx and presence, a new PLANET of the APES
has
> > been
> > > originated.
> > >
> > > Leo Davidson emerged into the 91th Century, or maybe even
further.
> > > There's no proof he timewarped in 8000 A.C., that's a mere
> > > speculation of the novelization of POTA 2001.
> > >
> > > THIS POTENTIAL FUTURE comes to EXIST between the DOOMSDAY
BOMB's
> > > undeniable explosion and the 'moment' in which the APE-O-NAUTS
go
> > > assimilated by the TIME WARP. AS the Ape-O-Nauts manage to
EMERGE
> > > into 1973 A.C., thus altering the continuum, the whole POTA
2001
> > > future is istantaneously erased, as well as PLANET and BENEATH.
> > > The Oberon station (APELINE ONE's 2027 A.C.) never came to be,
> > since
> > > in APELINE TWO (Caesar's Timeline) the Nuclear War broke out
in
> > 1992
> > > and civilization was wiped out in few years. BATTLE takes
place in
> > > 2021 indeed.
> > >
> > > Basically, now there are TWO trilogies. TAYLOR TRILOGY -
> > > PLANET/BENEATH/POTA 2001 and CAESAR TRILOGY -
> > ESCAPE/CONQUEST/BATTLE.
> > >
> >
>

>
> Helen,
>
> Because it's fun and entertaining. Because I like the idea of POTA
> 2001 being a new chapter, even if USELESS - since Caesar's

> changed everything and altered the timeline.
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Sophie" <cardwitch91@y...> wrote:
> >
> > It's interesting to try and connect the two as it's been proven

> be
> > possible. Of course there are alternate timelines that are
> different
> > from one another depending on what way you believe in.

> I
> > don't mind, though I prefer to follow Ceaser's line.
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > **DISCLAIMER**
> > >
> > > THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE NEGATIVE!!
> > >
> > > Now, then... Is there some reason why you would want to

> > the
> > > two -- Classic/2001 -- rather than just leave it alone and let
> the
> > > two be two entirely separate entities?
> > >
> > > Helen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
> <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > POTA 2001 was a POTENTIAL FUTURE which went (literally)

> in
> > > the
> > > > specific 'moment' Cornelius, Zira and Milo emerged into 1973
> A.C.
> > > > and altered the original timeline.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, listen carefully.
> > > >
> > > > OBERON/LEO/PERICLE belong to the same original timeline of
> Taylor
> > > > and Brent (APELINE ONE). They all happened to travel through
> the
> > > > Hasslein Curve III a.k.a TASK III (the electric storm) and
> > > crashed -
> > > > at very different times - on PLANET EARTH after the DOOMSDAY
> BOMB
> > > > annihiled the previous 'Planet of the Apes' setting and
> > > civilization
> > > > (see the ending of BENEATH). They emerged long long long

> > > after
> > > > that event (3979 A.C.) ... according to the OBERON's
> electronic
> > > last
> > > > log, the station time warped in the 51th Century indeed.
> > > > After all that time, the Planet has been totally re-modeled

> the
> > > > DOOMSDAY. Weather, temperatures, soils, eco-systems...
> everything
> > > > should seem "alien". A new planetary satellite (a gianteous
> > comet?)
> > > > has been 'absorbed' by Earth's orbit, thus resulting into

> > > > creation of a NEW MOON.
> > > >
> > > > With OBERON's influx and presence, a new PLANET of the APES
> has
> > > been
> > > > originated.
> > > >
> > > > Leo Davidson emerged into the 91th Century, or maybe even
> further.
> > > > There's no proof he timewarped in 8000 A.C., that's a mere
> > > > speculation of the novelization of POTA 2001.
> > > >
> > > > THIS POTENTIAL FUTURE comes to EXIST between the DOOMSDAY
> BOMB's
> > > > undeniable explosion and the 'moment' in which the APE-O-

> go
> > > > assimilated by the TIME WARP. AS the Ape-O-Nauts manage to
> EMERGE
> > > > into 1973 A.C., thus altering the continuum, the whole POTA
> 2001
> > > > future is istantaneously erased, as well as PLANET and

> > > > The Oberon station (APELINE ONE's 2027 A.C.) never came to

> > > since
> > > > in APELINE TWO (Caesar's Timeline) the Nuclear War broke out
> in
> > > 1992
> > > > and civilization was wiped out in few years. BATTLE takes
> place in
> > > > 2021 indeed.
> > > >
> > > > Basically, now there are TWO trilogies. TAYLOR TRILOGY -
> > > > PLANET/BENEATH/POTA 2001 and CAESAR TRILOGY -
> > > ESCAPE/CONQUEST/BATTLE.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
> Ok, Mr. Apecalypsenow,
>
> Based on what I think you are trying to do and the idea that this
is
> a USELESS interconnection, I have placed my vote in your poll.
> However, am I correct in my understanding that you believe Leo
> Davison fits into a classic time-line and then shifts during his
> regressive time travel to an alternate universe? Or, is the time
> that he lands in with the Oberon and Perecles already an alternate
> time-line?
>
> Helen
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Helen,
> >
> > Because it's fun and entertaining. Because I like the idea of
POTA
> > 2001 being a new chapter, even if USELESS - since Caesar's
> presence
> > changed everything and altered the timeline.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Sophie" <cardwitch91@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > It's interesting to try and connect the two as it's been
proven
> to
> > be
> > > possible. Of course there are alternate timelines that are
> > different
> > > from one another depending on what way you believe in.
> Personally,
> > I
> > > don't mind, though I prefer to follow Ceaser's line.
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > **DISCLAIMER**
> > > >
> > > > THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE NEGATIVE!!
> > > >
> > > > Now, then... Is there some reason why you would want to
> connect
> > > the
> > > > two -- Classic/2001 -- rather than just leave it alone and
let
> > the
> > > > two be two entirely separate entities?
> > > >
> > > > Helen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
> > <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > POTA 2001 was a POTENTIAL FUTURE which went (literally)
> erased
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > specific 'moment' Cornelius, Zira and Milo emerged into
1973
> > A.C.
> > > > > and altered the original timeline.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, listen carefully.
> > > > >
> > > > > OBERON/LEO/PERICLE belong to the same original timeline of
> > Taylor
> > > > > and Brent (APELINE ONE). They all happened to travel
through
> > the
> > > > > Hasslein Curve III a.k.a TASK III (the electric storm) and
> > > > crashed -
> > > > > at very different times - on PLANET EARTH after the
DOOMSDAY
> > BOMB
> > > > > annihiled the previous 'Planet of the Apes' setting and
> > > > civilization
> > > > > (see the ending of BENEATH). They emerged long long long
> time
> > > > after
> > > > > that event (3979 A.C.) ... according to the OBERON's
> > electronic
> > > > last
> > > > > log, the station time warped in the 51th Century indeed.
> > > > > After all that time, the Planet has been totally re-
modeled
> by
> > the
> > > > > DOOMSDAY. Weather, temperatures, soils, eco-systems...
> > everything
> > > > > should seem "alien". A new planetary satellite (a
gianteous
> > > comet?)
> > > > > has been 'absorbed' by Earth's orbit, thus resulting into
> the
> > > > > creation of a NEW MOON.
> > > > >
> > > > > With OBERON's influx and presence, a new PLANET of the
APES
> > has
> > > > been
> > > > > originated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Leo Davidson emerged into the 91th Century, or maybe even
> > further.
> > > > > There's no proof he timewarped in 8000 A.C., that's a mere
> > > > > speculation of the novelization of POTA 2001.
> > > > >
> > > > > THIS POTENTIAL FUTURE comes to EXIST between the DOOMSDAY
> > BOMB's
> > > > > undeniable explosion and the 'moment' in which the APE-O-
> NAUTS
> > go
> > > > > assimilated by the TIME WARP. AS the Ape-O-Nauts manage to
> > EMERGE
> > > > > into 1973 A.C., thus altering the continuum, the whole
POTA
> > 2001
> > > > > future is istantaneously erased, as well as PLANET and
> BENEATH.
> > > > > The Oberon station (APELINE ONE's 2027 A.C.) never came to
> be,
> > > > since
> > > > > in APELINE TWO (Caesar's Timeline) the Nuclear War broke
out
> > in
> > > > 1992
> > > > > and civilization was wiped out in few years. BATTLE takes
> > place in
> > > > > 2021 indeed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Basically, now there are TWO trilogies. TAYLOR TRILOGY -
> > > > > PLANET/BENEATH/POTA 2001 and CAESAR TRILOGY -
> > > > ESCAPE/CONQUEST/BATTLE.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

>
> HLEN,
>
> NO. POTA 2001 and POTA 1968 both take place on the same Planet
> (EARTH). POTA 2001 is just set millennia AFTER the DOOMSDAY
> DETONATION. In my scenario, LEO just travelled FURTHER than TAYLOR.
>
> The second moon was a former asteroid which went 'trapped' into

> games of orbits.
>
> The alternative universe thing regards the RETURN. When Leo

> to drive POD ALPHA towards TASK-III, he emerged into an

> universe where EARTH is 'TERRA APE', a world where Humans never
> happened to BE! That happened because HASSLEIN CURVE III a.k.a

> III works as a multi-dimensional warp, even.
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>

> >
> > Ok, Mr. Apecalypsenow,
> >
> > Based on what I think you are trying to do and the idea that

> is
> > a USELESS interconnection, I have placed my vote in your poll.
> > However, am I correct in my understanding that you believe Leo
> > Davison fits into a classic time-line and then shifts during his
> > regressive time travel to an alternate universe? Or, is the

> > that he lands in with the Oberon and Perecles already an

> > time-line?
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Helen,
> > >
> > > Because it's fun and entertaining. Because I like the idea of
> POTA
> > > 2001 being a new chapter, even if USELESS - since Caesar's
> > presence
> > > changed everything and altered the timeline.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Sophie" <cardwitch91@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's interesting to try and connect the two as it's been
> proven
> > to
> > > be
> > > > possible. Of course there are alternate timelines that are
> > > different
> > > > from one another depending on what way you believe in.
> > Personally,
> > > I
> > > > don't mind, though I prefer to follow Ceaser's line.
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"

> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > **DISCLAIMER**
> > > > >
> > > > > THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE NEGATIVE!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, then... Is there some reason why you would want to
> > connect
> > > > the
> > > > > two -- Classic/2001 -- rather than just leave it alone and
> let
> > > the
> > > > > two be two entirely separate entities?
> > > > >
> > > > > Helen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
> > > <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > POTA 2001 was a POTENTIAL FUTURE which went (literally)
> > erased
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > specific 'moment' Cornelius, Zira and Milo emerged into
> 1973
> > > A.C.
> > > > > > and altered the original timeline.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, listen carefully.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OBERON/LEO/PERICLE belong to the same original timeline

> > > Taylor
> > > > > > and Brent (APELINE ONE). They all happened to travel
> through
> > > the
> > > > > > Hasslein Curve III a.k.a TASK III (the electric storm)

> > > > > crashed -
> > > > > > at very different times - on PLANET EARTH after the
> DOOMSDAY
> > > BOMB
> > > > > > annihiled the previous 'Planet of the Apes' setting and
> > > > > civilization
> > > > > > (see the ending of BENEATH). They emerged long long long
> > time
> > > > > after
> > > > > > that event (3979 A.C.) ... according to the OBERON's
> > > electronic
> > > > > last
> > > > > > log, the station time warped in the 51th Century indeed.
> > > > > > After all that time, the Planet has been totally re-
> modeled
> > by
> > > the
> > > > > > DOOMSDAY. Weather, temperatures, soils, eco-systems...
> > > everything
> > > > > > should seem "alien". A new planetary satellite (a
> gianteous
> > > > comet?)
> > > > > > has been 'absorbed' by Earth's orbit, thus resulting

> > the
> > > > > > creation of a NEW MOON.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With OBERON's influx and presence, a new PLANET of the
> APES
> > > has
> > > > > been
> > > > > > originated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Leo Davidson emerged into the 91th Century, or maybe

> > > further.
> > > > > > There's no proof he timewarped in 8000 A.C., that's a

> > > > > > speculation of the novelization of POTA 2001.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > THIS POTENTIAL FUTURE comes to EXIST between the

> > > BOMB's
> > > > > > undeniable explosion and the 'moment' in which the APE-O-
> > NAUTS
> > > go
> > > > > > assimilated by the TIME WARP. AS the Ape-O-Nauts manage

> > > EMERGE
> > > > > > into 1973 A.C., thus altering the continuum, the whole
> POTA
> > > 2001
> > > > > > future is istantaneously erased, as well as PLANET and
> > BENEATH.
> > > > > > The Oberon station (APELINE ONE's 2027 A.C.) never came

> > be,
> > > > > since
> > > > > > in APELINE TWO (Caesar's Timeline) the Nuclear War broke
> out
> > > in
> > > > > 1992
> > > > > > and civilization was wiped out in few years. BATTLE

> > > place in
> > > > > > 2021 indeed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Basically, now there are TWO trilogies. TAYLOR TRILOGY -
> > > > > > PLANET/BENEATH/POTA 2001 and CAESAR TRILOGY -
> > > > > ESCAPE/CONQUEST/BATTLE.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
> Ok, I see what you are getting at. But.... how is it possible
that
> Leo lands on Earth AFTER it has been destroyed?
>
> Helen
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > HLEN,
> >
> > NO. POTA 2001 and POTA 1968 both take place on the same Planet
> > (EARTH). POTA 2001 is just set millennia AFTER the DOOMSDAY
> > DETONATION. In my scenario, LEO just travelled FURTHER than
TAYLOR.
> >
> > The second moon was a former asteroid which went 'trapped' into
> the
> > games of orbits.
> >
> > The alternative universe thing regards the RETURN. When Leo
> manages
> > to drive POD ALPHA towards TASK-III, he emerged into an
> alternative
> > universe where EARTH is 'TERRA APE', a world where Humans never
> > happened to BE! That happened because HASSLEIN CURVE III a.k.a
> TASK-
> > III works as a multi-dimensional warp, even.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, Mr. Apecalypsenow,
> > >
> > > Based on what I think you are trying to do and the idea that
> this
> > is
> > > a USELESS interconnection, I have placed my vote in your
poll.
> > > However, am I correct in my understanding that you believe Leo
> > > Davison fits into a classic time-line and then shifts during
his
> > > regressive time travel to an alternate universe? Or, is the
> time
> > > that he lands in with the Oberon and Perecles already an
> alternate
> > > time-line?
> > >
> > > Helen
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
> <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Helen,
> > > >
> > > > Because it's fun and entertaining. Because I like the idea
of
> > POTA
> > > > 2001 being a new chapter, even if USELESS - since Caesar's
> > > presence
> > > > changed everything and altered the timeline.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Sophie" <cardwitch91@y...>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It's interesting to try and connect the two as it's been
> > proven
> > > to
> > > > be
> > > > > possible. Of course there are alternate timelines that are
> > > > different
> > > > > from one another depending on what way you believe in.
> > > Personally,
> > > > I
> > > > > don't mind, though I prefer to follow Ceaser's line.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > **DISCLAIMER**
> > > > > >
> > > > > > THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE NEGATIVE!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, then... Is there some reason why you would want to
> > > connect
> > > > > the
> > > > > > two -- Classic/2001 -- rather than just leave it alone
and
> > let
> > > > the
> > > > > > two be two entirely separate entities?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Helen
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
> > > > <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > POTA 2001 was a POTENTIAL FUTURE which went
(literally)
> > > erased
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > specific 'moment' Cornelius, Zira and Milo emerged
into
> > 1973
> > > > A.C.
> > > > > > > and altered the original timeline.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, listen carefully.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OBERON/LEO/PERICLE belong to the same original
timeline
> of
> > > > Taylor
> > > > > > > and Brent (APELINE ONE). They all happened to travel
> > through
> > > > the
> > > > > > > Hasslein Curve III a.k.a TASK III (the electric storm)
> and
> > > > > > crashed -
> > > > > > > at very different times - on PLANET EARTH after the
> > DOOMSDAY
> > > > BOMB
> > > > > > > annihiled the previous 'Planet of the Apes' setting
and
> > > > > > civilization
> > > > > > > (see the ending of BENEATH). They emerged long long
long
> > > time
> > > > > > after
> > > > > > > that event (3979 A.C.) ... according to the OBERON's
> > > > electronic
> > > > > > last
> > > > > > > log, the station time warped in the 51th Century
indeed.
> > > > > > > After all that time, the Planet has been totally re-
> > modeled
> > > by
> > > > the
> > > > > > > DOOMSDAY. Weather, temperatures, soils, eco-systems...
> > > > everything
> > > > > > > should seem "alien". A new planetary satellite (a
> > gianteous
> > > > > comet?)
> > > > > > > has been 'absorbed' by Earth's orbit, thus resulting
> into
> > > the
> > > > > > > creation of a NEW MOON.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With OBERON's influx and presence, a new PLANET of the
> > APES
> > > > has
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > > originated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Leo Davidson emerged into the 91th Century, or maybe
> even
> > > > further.
> > > > > > > There's no proof he timewarped in 8000 A.C., that's a
> mere
> > > > > > > speculation of the novelization of POTA 2001.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > THIS POTENTIAL FUTURE comes to EXIST between the
> DOOMSDAY
> > > > BOMB's
> > > > > > > undeniable explosion and the 'moment' in which the APE-
O-
> > > NAUTS
> > > > go
> > > > > > > assimilated by the TIME WARP. AS the Ape-O-Nauts
manage
> to
> > > > EMERGE
> > > > > > > into 1973 A.C., thus altering the continuum, the whole
> > POTA
> > > > 2001
> > > > > > > future is istantaneously erased, as well as PLANET and
> > > BENEATH.
> > > > > > > The Oberon station (APELINE ONE's 2027 A.C.) never
came
> to
> > > be,
> > > > > > since
> > > > > > > in APELINE TWO (Caesar's Timeline) the Nuclear War
broke
> > out
> > > > in
> > > > > > 1992
> > > > > > > and civilization was wiped out in few years. BATTLE
> takes
> > > > place in
> > > > > > > 2021 indeed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Basically, now there are TWO trilogies. TAYLOR
TRILOGY -
> > > > > > > PLANET/BENEATH/POTA 2001 and CAESAR TRILOGY -
> > > > > > ESCAPE/CONQUEST/BATTLE.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

>

> everything ON that world, but Earth didn't explode like Krypton.
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> THE DOOMSDAY Bomb can't possibly destroy a whole world. It wiped out
> > everything ON that world, but Earth didn't explode like Krypton.
> >
> >
>
>
> Hmmm. Sure looked kinda blown up to me...
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 12/17/2005 2:43:05 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> apecalypsenow@y... writes:
>
> The second moon was a former asteroid which went 'trapped' into
the
> games of orbits.
>
>
>
> Look again . . . There are 4 moons.
>
>
> <<NO. POTA 2001 and POTA 1968 both take place on the same Planet
(EARTH).>>
>
>
> No, it doesn't. Leo has to fly past the entire Solar System
getting back to
> Earth. Ask anyone, on Earth, including Burton, he'll tell you
those were
> two different planets. That's electromagnetic storm only warps
time, not
> dimensions. I think you have some holes in your theories. Ask
Patrick, he's our
> resident expert on plugging plot holes with wacky theories.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 12/17/2005 6:05:35 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> apecalypsenow@y... writes:
>
> - on PLANET EARTH after the DOOMSDAY BOMB
> annihiled the previous 'Planet of the Apes' setting and
civilization
> (see the ending of BENEATH). They emerged long long long time
after
> that event (3979 A.C.) ... according to the OBERON's electronic
last
> log, the station time warped in the 51th Century indeed.
>
>
>
> I wish I could steal Neil to illiterate my script.
> That's okay, he's bogged down with too many
> irons in the fire. But that's okay. I may have found
>
> someone better.
>

>
>

> resident expert on plugging plot holes with wacky theories.
>

>
> Just wondering.
>
> I think a Time Warp is just a 'bend in time'. You tavel at speed

> light, and your own TIME is very slow, while the "external" and
> objective time flows much much faster than your own. An example:

> POTA, Taylor's journey began in 1972 A.C. and lasted ONLY 18

> but he managed to crash on Earth in 3978 A.C. That's because he
> travelled through The HASSLEIN CURVE, a Time Warp.
> Patrick Tilton says the 'Hasslein Curve' is just a mere effect of
> dilatation of time while being propulsed at speed of light. I

> it is a physical phenomenon, an anomaly.
>
> A WORMHOLE seems to me an ISTANTANEOUS TIME LINK between a

> Point A and Point B. In few minutes I can travel from 2005 A.C. to
> 2078 A.C. For example, in 'ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES' the
> three Humanoid Apes travel from 3979 A.C. to 1973 A.C. in a very
> short amount of time, and BACKWARDS.
>
> And the whole theory of relativity seems to me a MUCH MORE SLOWED
> DOWN 'Time Warp'.
>
> Can someone enlight me on THIS?
>
> And what's about the TV series? Was it an 'Hasslein Curve' or
> a 'Wormhole'?
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...> wrote:

Please, answer me!

Well, The Hasslein Curve is sort of like a Time Warp, but it's a step to the right and a jump to
the left. And with your hands on your knees you bring your hips in tight. But it's the retro
thrust that really drives you insane.
Let's do the Hasslein Curve again.
And if you add water it makes it's own sauce.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...> wrote:
>
> Please, answer me!
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
>
> Well, in layman's terms: the theory of a wormhole is from the
1920s,
> also known as an Einstein-Rosen bridge. It is a hypothetical
> topological affect of spacetime that is essentially a "shortcut"
> through both space and time. It is a "hole" from one point of
> spacetime that crosses "hyperspace" in an instant and emerges out
> another "hole" in a different spacetime.
> I believe the term did not make its way into popular fiction until
1978
> with "Star Trek: the Motion Sickness -- er, Picture".
>
> IMHO, a "Hasslein Curve" was the writer's way to explain a warp in
the
> fabric of spacetime, similar to Star Trek's Warp.
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
wrote:
> >
> > Please, answer me!
> >
>

>
> Please, answer me!
>
>

>
> Yes, a time warp, but even a 'dilatation', since Taylor experienced
> 18 months of journey! The time travel wasn't ISTANTANEOUS!
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> >
> > Well, in layman's terms: the theory of a wormhole is from the
> 1920s,
> > also known as an Einstein-Rosen bridge. It is a hypothetical
> > topological affect of spacetime that is essentially a "shortcut"
> > through both space and time. It is a "hole" from one point of
> > spacetime that crosses "hyperspace" in an instant and emerges out
> > another "hole" in a different spacetime.
> > I believe the term did not make its way into popular fiction

> 1978
> > with "Star Trek: the Motion Sickness -- er, Picture".
> >
> > IMHO, a "Hasslein Curve" was the writer's way to explain a warp

> the
> > fabric of spacetime, similar to Star Trek's Warp.
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Please, answer me!
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
>
> Time dilation is a different thing altogether...That's the
phenomenon
> where the time rate of a moving object is different than that of a
> stationary object. It's based on Albert Einstein's "Theories of
> Relativity".
>
> In Einstein's relativistic framework, the effect is manifested in
two
> ways:
> In "Special Relativity", objects that are moving with respect to
an
> inertial system of observation are found to be moving slower than
> stationary objects.
> In "General Relativity", objects at lower potentials in a
> gravitational field are found to be moving slow. Which is known
as
> gravitational time dilation, or gravitational "red shift"...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, a time warp, but even a 'dilatation', since Taylor
experienced
> > 18 months of journey! The time travel wasn't ISTANTANEOUS!
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, in layman's terms: the theory of a wormhole is from the
> > 1920s,
> > > also known as an Einstein-Rosen bridge. It is a hypothetical
> > > topological affect of spacetime that is essentially
a "shortcut"
> > > through both space and time. It is a "hole" from one point of
> > > spacetime that crosses "hyperspace" in an instant and emerges
out
> > > another "hole" in a different spacetime.
> > > I believe the term did not make its way into popular fiction
> until
> > 1978
> > > with "Star Trek: the Motion Sickness -- er, Picture".
> > >
> > > IMHO, a "Hasslein Curve" was the writer's way to explain a
warp
> in
> > the
> > > fabric of spacetime, similar to Star Trek's Warp.
> > >
> > > G
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
<apecalypsenow@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Please, answer me!
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

>
> Hot, so what's the Hasslein Curve? A variation of the Relativity or
> a Time Warp?
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> >
> > Time dilation is a different thing altogether...That's the
> phenomenon
> > where the time rate of a moving object is different than that of

> > stationary object. It's based on Albert Einstein's "Theories of
> > Relativity".
> >
> > In Einstein's relativistic framework, the effect is manifested in
> two
> > ways:
> > In "Special Relativity", objects that are moving with respect to
> an
> > inertial system of observation are found to be moving slower than
> > stationary objects.
> > In "General Relativity", objects at lower potentials in a
> > gravitational field are found to be moving slow. Which is known
> as
> > gravitational time dilation, or gravitational "red shift"...
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, a time warp, but even a 'dilatation', since Taylor
> experienced
> > > 18 months of journey! The time travel wasn't ISTANTANEOUS!
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, in layman's terms: the theory of a wormhole is from the
> > > 1920s,
> > > > also known as an Einstein-Rosen bridge. It is a hypothetical
> > > > topological affect of spacetime that is essentially
> a "shortcut"
> > > > through both space and time. It is a "hole" from one point

> > > > spacetime that crosses "hyperspace" in an instant and emerges
> out
> > > > another "hole" in a different spacetime.
> > > > I believe the term did not make its way into popular fiction
> > until
> > > 1978
> > > > with "Star Trek: the Motion Sickness -- er, Picture".
> > > >
> > > > IMHO, a "Hasslein Curve" was the writer's way to explain a
> warp
> > in
> > > the
> > > > fabric of spacetime, similar to Star Trek's Warp.
> > > >
> > > > G
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
> <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Please, answer me!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
>
> As I said earlier, a "Hasslein Curve" is a writer's ploy
explaining a
> warp in the fabric of spacetime, like Star Trek's Warp Drive...
>
> To understand a "Hasslein Curve", you need to imagine spacetime as
a flat sheet of fabric that you want to travel across, from point A
to point B...Now wrinkle, fold, warp, or whatever, the fabric so
that you create a curve bringing point A and point B next to each
other, or at least near each other, then it is a shorter distance of
space and time to travel across...
> In Star Trek the engines warp spacetime, creating "Warp
Speed"...In Star Wars the engines open a hole in hyperspace...In
POTA Hasslein's theories are based upon accidental, or uncontrolled
warping from an outside influence, thus, there is no
control...Consequently, in POTA, Taylor had no command of time,
speed or direction and travels forward some 2,006 years...In BTPOTA,
Brent arrives 4 to 6 months after Taylor...In EFTPOTA C, Z & M have
no command and travel backward
> some 2,005 years...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hot, so what's the Hasslein Curve? A variation of the Relativity
or
> > a Time Warp?
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Time dilation is a different thing altogether...That's the
> > phenomenon
> > > where the time rate of a moving object is different than that
of
> a
> > > stationary object. It's based on Albert Einstein's "Theories
of
> > > Relativity".
> > >
> > > In Einstein's relativistic framework, the effect is manifested
in
> > two
> > > ways:
> > > In "Special Relativity", objects that are moving with respect
to
> > an
> > > inertial system of observation are found to be moving slower
than
> > > stationary objects.
> > > In "General Relativity", objects at lower potentials in a
> > > gravitational field are found to be moving slow. Which is
known
> > as
> > > gravitational time dilation, or gravitational "red shift"...
> > >
> > > G
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
> <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, a time warp, but even a 'dilatation', since Taylor
> > experienced
> > > > 18 months of journey! The time travel wasn't ISTANTANEOUS!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, in layman's terms: the theory of a wormhole is from
the
> > > > 1920s,
> > > > > also known as an Einstein-Rosen bridge. It is a
hypothetical
> > > > > topological affect of spacetime that is essentially
> > a "shortcut"
> > > > > through both space and time. It is a "hole" from one
point
> of
> > > > > spacetime that crosses "hyperspace" in an instant and
emerges
> > out
> > > > > another "hole" in a different spacetime.
> > > > > I believe the term did not make its way into popular
fiction
> > > until
> > > > 1978
> > > > > with "Star Trek: the Motion Sickness -- er, Picture".
> > > > >
> > > > > IMHO, a "Hasslein Curve" was the writer's way to explain a
> > warp
> > > in
> > > > the
> > > > > fabric of spacetime, similar to Star Trek's Warp.
> > > > >
> > > > > G
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
> > <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please, answer me!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
> Gosh, Glen. Well done.
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> >
> > As I said earlier, a "Hasslein Curve" is a writer's ploy
> explaining a
> > warp in the fabric of spacetime, like Star Trek's Warp Drive...
> >
> > To understand a "Hasslein Curve", you need to imagine spacetime
as
> a flat sheet of fabric that you want to travel across, from point A
> to point B...Now wrinkle, fold, warp, or whatever, the fabric so
> that you create a curve bringing point A and point B next to each
> other, or at least near each other, then it is a shorter distance
of
> space and time to travel across...
> > In Star Trek the engines warp spacetime, creating "Warp
> Speed"...In Star Wars the engines open a hole in hyperspace...In
> POTA Hasslein's theories are based upon accidental, or uncontrolled
> warping from an outside influence, thus, there is no
> control...Consequently, in POTA, Taylor had no command of time,
> speed or direction and travels forward some 2,006 years...In
BTPOTA,
> Brent arrives 4 to 6 months after Taylor...In EFTPOTA C, Z & M have
> no command and travel backward
> > some 2,005 years...
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hot, so what's the Hasslein Curve? A variation of the
Relativity
> or
> > > a Time Warp?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Time dilation is a different thing altogether...That's the
> > > phenomenon
> > > > where the time rate of a moving object is different than that
> of
> > a
> > > > stationary object. It's based on Albert Einstein's "Theories
> of
> > > > Relativity".
> > > >
> > > > In Einstein's relativistic framework, the effect is
manifested
> in
> > > two
> > > > ways:
> > > > In "Special Relativity", objects that are moving with respect
> to
> > > an
> > > > inertial system of observation are found to be moving slower
> than
> > > > stationary objects.
> > > > In "General Relativity", objects at lower potentials in a
> > > > gravitational field are found to be moving slow. Which is
> known
> > > as
> > > > gravitational time dilation, or gravitational "red shift"...
> > > >
> > > > G
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
> > <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, a time warp, but even a 'dilatation', since Taylor
> > > experienced
> > > > > 18 months of journey! The time travel wasn't ISTANTANEOUS!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, in layman's terms: the theory of a wormhole is from
> the
> > > > > 1920s,
> > > > > > also known as an Einstein-Rosen bridge. It is a
> hypothetical
> > > > > > topological affect of spacetime that is essentially
> > > a "shortcut"
> > > > > > through both space and time. It is a "hole" from one
> point
> > of
> > > > > > spacetime that crosses "hyperspace" in an instant and
> emerges
> > > out
> > > > > > another "hole" in a different spacetime.
> > > > > > I believe the term did not make its way into popular
> fiction
> > > > until
> > > > > 1978
> > > > > > with "Star Trek: the Motion Sickness -- er, Picture".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IMHO, a "Hasslein Curve" was the writer's way to explain
a
> > > warp
> > > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > fabric of spacetime, similar to Star Trek's Warp.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > G
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
> > > <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please, answer me!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
>
> As I said earlier, a "Hasslein Curve" is a writer's ploy
explaining a
> warp in the fabric of spacetime, like Star Trek's Warp Drive...
>
> To understand a "Hasslein Curve", you need to imagine spacetime as
a flat sheet of fabric that you want to travel across, from point A
to point B...Now wrinkle, fold, warp, or whatever, the fabric so
that you create a curve bringing point A and point B next to each
other, or at least near each other, then it is a shorter distance of
space and time to travel across...
> In Star Trek the engines warp spacetime, creating "Warp
Speed"...In Star Wars the engines open a hole in hyperspace...In
POTA Hasslein's theories are based upon accidental, or uncontrolled
warping from an outside influence, thus, there is no
control...Consequently, in POTA, Taylor had no command of time,
speed or direction and travels forward some 2,006 years...In BTPOTA,
Brent arrives 4 to 6 months after Taylor...In EFTPOTA C, Z & M have
no command and travel backward
> some 2,005 years...
>
> G
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> Glen, you're a geek! Damn and all this time I thought you were
only a talented writer & artist.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> >
> > As I said earlier, a "Hasslein Curve" is a writer's ploy
> explaining a
> > warp in the fabric of spacetime, like Star Trek's Warp Drive...
> >
> > To understand a "Hasslein Curve", you need to imagine spacetime
as
> a flat sheet of fabric that you want to travel across, from point
A
> to point B...Now wrinkle, fold, warp, or whatever, the fabric so
> that you create a curve bringing point A and point B next to each
> other, or at least near each other, then it is a shorter distance
of
> space and time to travel across...
> > In Star Trek the engines warp spacetime, creating "Warp
> Speed"...In Star Wars the engines open a hole in hyperspace...In
> POTA Hasslein's theories are based upon accidental, or
uncontrolled
> warping from an outside influence, thus, there is no
> control...Consequently, in POTA, Taylor had no command of time,
> speed or direction and travels forward some 2,006 years...In
BTPOTA,
> Brent arrives 4 to 6 months after Taylor...In EFTPOTA C, Z & M
have
> no command and travel backward
> > some 2,005 years...
> >
> > G
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> Glen, you're a geek! Damn and all this time I thought you were only
a talented writer & artist.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> >
> > As I said earlier, a "Hasslein Curve" is a writer's ploy
> explaining a
> > warp in the fabric of spacetime, like Star Trek's Warp Drive...
> >
> > To understand a "Hasslein Curve", you need to imagine spacetime
as
> a flat sheet of fabric that you want to travel across, from point A
> to point B...Now wrinkle, fold, warp, or whatever, the fabric so
> that you create a curve bringing point A and point B next to each
> other, or at least near each other, then it is a shorter distance
of
> space and time to travel across...
> > In Star Trek the engines warp spacetime, creating "Warp
> Speed"...In Star Wars the engines open a hole in hyperspace...In
> POTA Hasslein's theories are based upon accidental, or uncontrolled
> warping from an outside influence, thus, there is no
> control...Consequently, in POTA, Taylor had no command of time,
> speed or direction and travels forward some 2,006 years...In
BTPOTA,
> Brent arrives 4 to 6 months after Taylor...In EFTPOTA C, Z & M have
> no command and travel backward
> > some 2,005 years...
> >
> > G
> >
>

>
> Glen,
>
> Nice explanation, but I also think that the 'Hasslein Curve' both
> Taylor and Brent mentioned is something 'external', an anomaly
> located in that specific region they were travveling around.
>
> Look:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_timelike_curve
>
> It's not just an hyperdrive.
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> >
> > Glen, you're a geek! Damn and all this time I thought you were
> only a talented writer & artist.
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> > >
> > > As I said earlier, a "Hasslein Curve" is a writer's ploy
> > explaining a
> > > warp in the fabric of spacetime, like Star Trek's Warp Drive...
> > >
> > > To understand a "Hasslein Curve", you need to imagine spacetime
> as
> > a flat sheet of fabric that you want to travel across, from point
> A
> > to point B...Now wrinkle, fold, warp, or whatever, the fabric so
> > that you create a curve bringing point A and point B next to each
> > other, or at least near each other, then it is a shorter distance
> of
> > space and time to travel across...
> > > In Star Trek the engines warp spacetime, creating "Warp
> > Speed"...In Star Wars the engines open a hole in hyperspace...In
> > POTA Hasslein's theories are based upon accidental, or
> uncontrolled
> > warping from an outside influence, thus, there is no
> > control...Consequently, in POTA, Taylor had no command of time,
> > speed or direction and travels forward some 2,006 years...In
> BTPOTA,
> > Brent arrives 4 to 6 months after Taylor...In EFTPOTA C, Z & M
> have
> > no command and travel backward
> > > some 2,005 years...
> > >
> > > G
> > >
> >
>

>
>
> It's simple to understand. You Are Here X
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> You want to be here X
>
>
>
> Instead of traveling in between the two points
> its like bending the paper until they touch.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
>
> I can see how you'd come up with that, and it is plausible, seeing
as
> T & B both went through the same spacetime-frame...Incidentally,
it
> is also plausible that C, Z & M did NOT go through the same
> phenomenon backwards...As with an unstable wormhole, it may be a
one-
> way trip...Then, as Hasslein says in EFTPOTA, "Some planetary or
even
> galactic disaster jumped the apes from their time to ours..."...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Glen,
> >
> > Nice explanation, but I also think that the 'Hasslein Curve'
both
> > Taylor and Brent mentioned is something 'external', an anomaly
> > located in that specific region they were travveling around.
> >
> > Look:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_timelike_curve
> >
> > It's not just an hyperdrive.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Glen, you're a geek! Damn and all this time I thought you were
> > only a talented writer & artist.
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > As I said earlier, a "Hasslein Curve" is a writer's ploy
> > > explaining a
> > > > warp in the fabric of spacetime, like Star Trek's Warp
Drive...
> > > >
> > > > To understand a "Hasslein Curve", you need to imagine
spacetime
> > as
> > > a flat sheet of fabric that you want to travel across, from
point
> > A
> > > to point B...Now wrinkle, fold, warp, or whatever, the fabric
so
> > > that you create a curve bringing point A and point B next to
each
> > > other, or at least near each other, then it is a shorter
distance
> > of
> > > space and time to travel across...
> > > > In Star Trek the engines warp spacetime, creating "Warp
> > > Speed"...In Star Wars the engines open a hole in
hyperspace...In
> > > POTA Hasslein's theories are based upon accidental, or
> > uncontrolled
> > > warping from an outside influence, thus, there is no
> > > control...Consequently, in POTA, Taylor had no command of
time,
> > > speed or direction and travels forward some 2,006 years...In
> > BTPOTA,
> > > Brent arrives 4 to 6 months after Taylor...In EFTPOTA C, Z & M
> > have
> > > no command and travel backward
> > > > some 2,005 years...
> > > >
> > > > G
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

>
> I mean this, Glen:
>
> Yes, the phenomenics is the same you're descriving BUT:
>
> 1- it's a BEND generated by the ship's light speed
>
> OR
>
> 2- it's a BEND generated by an EXTERNAL ANOMALY in space?
>
> In my scenario, the combination between the EFFECT SHOCKWAVE

> by Earth's detonation and the HASSLEIN CURVE I (Taylor and Brent's
> one) projected the Ape-O-Nauts BACKWARDS and not FORWARDS.
> But remember, I think the HASSLEIN CURVE I acts like a wormhole,

> its existence is just a 'constant' in that portion of the space.
>
> What do you think, Glen?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> >
> > I can see how you'd come up with that, and it is plausible,

> as
> > T & B both went through the same spacetime-frame...Incidentally,
> it
> > is also plausible that C, Z & M did NOT go through the same
> > phenomenon backwards...As with an unstable wormhole, it may be a
> one-
> > way trip...Then, as Hasslein says in EFTPOTA, "Some planetary or
> even
> > galactic disaster jumped the apes from their time to ours..."...
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Glen,
> > >
> > > Nice explanation, but I also think that the 'Hasslein Curve'
> both
> > > Taylor and Brent mentioned is something 'external', an anomaly
> > > located in that specific region they were travveling around.
> > >
> > > Look:
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_timelike_curve
> > >
> > > It's not just an hyperdrive.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Glen, you're a geek! Damn and all this time I thought you

> > > only a talented writer & artist.
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > As I said earlier, a "Hasslein Curve" is a writer's ploy
> > > > explaining a
> > > > > warp in the fabric of spacetime, like Star Trek's Warp
> Drive...
> > > > >
> > > > > To understand a "Hasslein Curve", you need to imagine
> spacetime
> > > as
> > > > a flat sheet of fabric that you want to travel across, from
> point
> > > A
> > > > to point B...Now wrinkle, fold, warp, or whatever, the fabric
> so
> > > > that you create a curve bringing point A and point B next to
> each
> > > > other, or at least near each other, then it is a shorter
> distance
> > > of
> > > > space and time to travel across...
> > > > > In Star Trek the engines warp spacetime, creating "Warp
> > > > Speed"...In Star Wars the engines open a hole in
> hyperspace...In
> > > > POTA Hasslein's theories are based upon accidental, or
> > > uncontrolled
> > > > warping from an outside influence, thus, there is no
> > > > control...Consequently, in POTA, Taylor had no command of
> time,
> > > > speed or direction and travels forward some 2,006 years...In
> > > BTPOTA,
> > > > Brent arrives 4 to 6 months after Taylor...In EFTPOTA C, Z &

> > > have
> > > > no command and travel backward
> > > > > some 2,005 years...
> > > > >
> > > > > G
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
>
> From what you seem to be trying to develop, I can concede that it
is
> an external anomaly that T & B went through, albeit an unstable
one,
> and that the shock wave from the AO bomb blast propelled C, Z & M
> backwards through the very same anomoly...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I mean this, Glen:
> >
> > Yes, the phenomenics is the same you're descriving BUT:
> >
> > 1- it's a BEND generated by the ship's light speed
> >
> > OR
> >
> > 2- it's a BEND generated by an EXTERNAL ANOMALY in space?
> >
> > In my scenario, the combination between the EFFECT SHOCKWAVE
> induced
> > by Earth's detonation and the HASSLEIN CURVE I (Taylor and
Brent's
> > one) projected the Ape-O-Nauts BACKWARDS and not FORWARDS.
> > But remember, I think the HASSLEIN CURVE I acts like a wormhole,
> and
> > its existence is just a 'constant' in that portion of the space.
> >
> > What do you think, Glen?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > I can see how you'd come up with that, and it is plausible,
> seeing
> > as
> > > T & B both went through the same spacetime-
frame...Incidentally,
> > it
> > > is also plausible that C, Z & M did NOT go through the same
> > > phenomenon backwards...As with an unstable wormhole, it may be
a
> > one-
> > > way trip...Then, as Hasslein says in EFTPOTA, "Some planetary
or
> > even
> > > galactic disaster jumped the apes from their time to
ours..."...
> > >
> > > G
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
<apecalypsenow@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Glen,
> > > >
> > > > Nice explanation, but I also think that the 'Hasslein Curve'
> > both
> > > > Taylor and Brent mentioned is something 'external', an
anomaly
> > > > located in that specific region they were travveling around.
> > > >
> > > > Look:
> > > >
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_timelike_curve
> > > >
> > > > It's not just an hyperdrive.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Glen, you're a geek! Damn and all this time I thought you
> were
> > > > only a talented writer & artist.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz"
<HotScheetz@a...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As I said earlier, a "Hasslein Curve" is a writer's ploy
> > > > > explaining a
> > > > > > warp in the fabric of spacetime, like Star Trek's Warp
> > Drive...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To understand a "Hasslein Curve", you need to imagine
> > spacetime
> > > > as
> > > > > a flat sheet of fabric that you want to travel across,
from
> > point
> > > > A
> > > > > to point B...Now wrinkle, fold, warp, or whatever, the
fabric
> > so
> > > > > that you create a curve bringing point A and point B next
to
> > each
> > > > > other, or at least near each other, then it is a shorter
> > distance
> > > > of
> > > > > space and time to travel across...
> > > > > > In Star Trek the engines warp spacetime, creating "Warp
> > > > > Speed"...In Star Wars the engines open a hole in
> > hyperspace...In
> > > > > POTA Hasslein's theories are based upon accidental, or
> > > > uncontrolled
> > > > > warping from an outside influence, thus, there is no
> > > > > control...Consequently, in POTA, Taylor had no command of
> > time,
> > > > > speed or direction and travels forward some 2,006
years...In
> > > > BTPOTA,
> > > > > Brent arrives 4 to 6 months after Taylor...In EFTPOTA C, Z
&
> M
> > > > have
> > > > > no command and travel backward
> > > > > > some 2,005 years...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > G
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

>
> Couldn't said it better! You're great Glen...
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> >
> > From what you seem to be trying to develop, I can concede that

> is
> > an external anomaly that T & B went through, albeit an unstable
> one,
> > and that the shock wave from the AO bomb blast propelled C, Z &

> > backwards through the very same anomoly...
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I mean this, Glen:
> > >
> > > Yes, the phenomenics is the same you're descriving BUT:
> > >
> > > 1- it's a BEND generated by the ship's light speed
> > >
> > > OR
> > >
> > > 2- it's a BEND generated by an EXTERNAL ANOMALY in space?
> > >
> > > In my scenario, the combination between the EFFECT SHOCKWAVE
> > induced
> > > by Earth's detonation and the HASSLEIN CURVE I (Taylor and
> Brent's
> > > one) projected the Ape-O-Nauts BACKWARDS and not FORWARDS.
> > > But remember, I think the HASSLEIN CURVE I acts like a

> > and
> > > its existence is just a 'constant' in that portion of the

> > >
> > > What do you think, Glen?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I can see how you'd come up with that, and it is plausible,
> > seeing
> > > as
> > > > T & B both went through the same spacetime-
> frame...Incidentally,
> > > it
> > > > is also plausible that C, Z & M did NOT go through the same
> > > > phenomenon backwards...As with an unstable wormhole, it may

> a
> > > one-
> > > > way trip...Then, as Hasslein says in EFTPOTA, "Some

> or
> > > even
> > > > galactic disaster jumped the apes from their time to
> ours..."...
> > > >
> > > > G
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
> <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Glen,
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice explanation, but I also think that the 'Hasslein

> > > both
> > > > > Taylor and Brent mentioned is something 'external', an
> anomaly
> > > > > located in that specific region they were travveling

> > > > >
> > > > > Look:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_timelike_curve
> > > > >
> > > > > It's not just an hyperdrive.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...>

> > > > > >
> > > > > > Glen, you're a geek! Damn and all this time I thought

> > were
> > > > > only a talented writer & artist.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz"
> <HotScheetz@a...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As I said earlier, a "Hasslein Curve" is a writer's

> > > > > > explaining a
> > > > > > > warp in the fabric of spacetime, like Star Trek's Warp
> > > Drive...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To understand a "Hasslein Curve", you need to imagine
> > > spacetime
> > > > > as
> > > > > > a flat sheet of fabric that you want to travel across,
> from
> > > point
> > > > > A
> > > > > > to point B...Now wrinkle, fold, warp, or whatever, the
> fabric
> > > so
> > > > > > that you create a curve bringing point A and point B

> to
> > > each
> > > > > > other, or at least near each other, then it is a shorter
> > > distance
> > > > > of
> > > > > > space and time to travel across...
> > > > > > > In Star Trek the engines warp spacetime,

> > > > > > Speed"...In Star Wars the engines open a hole in
> > > hyperspace...In
> > > > > > POTA Hasslein's theories are based upon accidental, or
> > > > > uncontrolled
> > > > > > warping from an outside influence, thus, there is no
> > > > > > control...Consequently, in POTA, Taylor had no command

> > > time,
> > > > > > speed or direction and travels forward some 2,006
> years...In
> > > > > BTPOTA,
> > > > > > Brent arrives 4 to 6 months after Taylor...In EFTPOTA C,

> &
> > M
> > > > > have
> > > > > > no command and travel backward
> > > > > > > some 2,005 years...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > G
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

>
> Couldn't said it better! You're great Glen...
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> >
> > From what you seem to be trying to develop, I can concede that it
> is
> > an external anomaly that T & B went through, albeit an unstable
> one,
> > and that the shock wave from the AO bomb blast propelled C, Z & M
> > backwards through the very same anomoly...
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I mean this, Glen:
> > >
> > > Yes, the phenomenics is the same you're descriving BUT:
> > >
> > > 1- it's a BEND generated by the ship's light speed
> > >
> > > OR
> > >
> > > 2- it's a BEND generated by an EXTERNAL ANOMALY in space?
> > >
> > > In my scenario, the combination between the EFFECT SHOCKWAVE
> > induced
> > > by Earth's detonation and the HASSLEIN CURVE I (Taylor and
> Brent's
> > > one) projected the Ape-O-Nauts BACKWARDS and not FORWARDS.
> > > But remember, I think the HASSLEIN CURVE I acts like a

> > and
> > > its existence is just a 'constant' in that portion of the space.
> > >
> > > What do you think, Glen?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I can see how you'd come up with that, and it is plausible,
> > seeing
> > > as
> > > > T & B both went through the same spacetime-
> frame...Incidentally,
> > > it
> > > > is also plausible that C, Z & M did NOT go through the same
> > > > phenomenon backwards...As with an unstable wormhole, it may

> a
> > > one-
> > > > way trip...Then, as Hasslein says in EFTPOTA, "Some planetary
> or
> > > even
> > > > galactic disaster jumped the apes from their time to
> ours..."...
> > > >
> > > > G
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
> <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Glen,
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice explanation, but I also think that the 'Hasslein

> > > both
> > > > > Taylor and Brent mentioned is something 'external', an
> anomaly
> > > > > located in that specific region they were travveling around.
> > > > >
> > > > > Look:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_timelike_curve
> > > > >
> > > > > It's not just an hyperdrive.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...>

> > > > > >
> > > > > > Glen, you're a geek! Damn and all this time I thought you
> > were
> > > > > only a talented writer & artist.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz"
> <HotScheetz@a...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As I said earlier, a "Hasslein Curve" is a writer's

> > > > > > explaining a
> > > > > > > warp in the fabric of spacetime, like Star Trek's Warp
> > > Drive...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To understand a "Hasslein Curve", you need to imagine
> > > spacetime
> > > > > as
> > > > > > a flat sheet of fabric that you want to travel across,
> from
> > > point
> > > > > A
> > > > > > to point B...Now wrinkle, fold, warp, or whatever, the
> fabric
> > > so
> > > > > > that you create a curve bringing point A and point B next
> to
> > > each
> > > > > > other, or at least near each other, then it is a shorter
> > > distance
> > > > > of
> > > > > > space and time to travel across...
> > > > > > > In Star Trek the engines warp spacetime, creating "Warp
> > > > > > Speed"...In Star Wars the engines open a hole in
> > > hyperspace...In
> > > > > > POTA Hasslein's theories are based upon accidental, or
> > > > > uncontrolled
> > > > > > warping from an outside influence, thus, there is no
> > > > > > control...Consequently, in POTA, Taylor had no command of
> > > time,
> > > > > > speed or direction and travels forward some 2,006
> years...In
> > > > > BTPOTA,
> > > > > > Brent arrives 4 to 6 months after Taylor...In EFTPOTA C,

> &
> > M
> > > > > have
> > > > > > no command and travel backward
> > > > > > > some 2,005 years...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > G
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

>
> I have to add:
>
> What's about the Tv Series? A 'radioactive turbulence'. In my
> scenario, it is our beloved Hasslein Curve II.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Couldn't said it better! You're great Glen...
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> > >
> > > From what you seem to be trying to develop, I can concede that
> it
> > is
> > > an external anomaly that T & B went through, albeit an unstable
> > one,
> > > and that the shock wave from the AO bomb blast propelled C, Z &
> M
> > > backwards through the very same anomoly...
> > >
> > > G
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
> <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I mean this, Glen:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, the phenomenics is the same you're descriving BUT:
> > > >
> > > > 1- it's a BEND generated by the ship's light speed
> > > >
> > > > OR
> > > >
> > > > 2- it's a BEND generated by an EXTERNAL ANOMALY in space?
> > > >
> > > > In my scenario, the combination between the EFFECT SHOCKWAVE
> > > induced
> > > > by Earth's detonation and the HASSLEIN CURVE I (Taylor and
> > Brent's
> > > > one) projected the Ape-O-Nauts BACKWARDS and not FORWARDS.
> > > > But remember, I think the HASSLEIN CURVE I acts like a
> wormhole,
> > > and
> > > > its existence is just a 'constant' in that portion of the
> space.
> > > >
> > > > What do you think, Glen?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I can see how you'd come up with that, and it is plausible,
> > > seeing
> > > > as
> > > > > T & B both went through the same spacetime-
> > frame...Incidentally,
> > > > it
> > > > > is also plausible that C, Z & M did NOT go through the same
> > > > > phenomenon backwards...As with an unstable wormhole, it may
> be
> > a
> > > > one-
> > > > > way trip...Then, as Hasslein says in EFTPOTA, "Some
> planetary
> > or
> > > > even
> > > > > galactic disaster jumped the apes from their time to
> > ours..."...
> > > > >
> > > > > G
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
> > <apecalypsenow@y...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Glen,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nice explanation, but I also think that the 'Hasslein
> Curve'
> > > > both
> > > > > > Taylor and Brent mentioned is something 'external', an
> > anomaly
> > > > > > located in that specific region they were travveling
> around.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Look:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_timelike_curve
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's not just an hyperdrive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Glen, you're a geek! Damn and all this time I thought
> you
> > > were
> > > > > > only a talented writer & artist.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz"
> > <HotScheetz@a...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As I said earlier, a "Hasslein Curve" is a writer's
> ploy
> > > > > > > explaining a
> > > > > > > > warp in the fabric of spacetime, like Star Trek's

> > > > Drive...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To understand a "Hasslein Curve", you need to imagine
> > > > spacetime
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > a flat sheet of fabric that you want to travel across,
> > from
> > > > point
> > > > > > A
> > > > > > > to point B...Now wrinkle, fold, warp, or whatever, the
> > fabric
> > > > so
> > > > > > > that you create a curve bringing point A and point B
> next
> > to
> > > > each
> > > > > > > other, or at least near each other, then it is a

> > > > distance
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > space and time to travel across...
> > > > > > > > In Star Trek the engines warp spacetime,
> creating "Warp
> > > > > > > Speed"...In Star Wars the engines open a hole in
> > > > hyperspace...In
> > > > > > > POTA Hasslein's theories are based upon accidental, or
> > > > > > uncontrolled
> > > > > > > warping from an outside influence, thus, there is no
> > > > > > > control...Consequently, in POTA, Taylor had no command
> of
> > > > time,
> > > > > > > speed or direction and travels forward some 2,006
> > years...In
> > > > > > BTPOTA,
> > > > > > > Brent arrives 4 to 6 months after Taylor...In EFTPOTA

> Z
> > &
> > > M
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > no command and travel backward
> > > > > > > > some 2,005 years...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > G
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

As an early Xmas gift to the group there are several new videos available in the Videos section of the Group Website, specifically on the Greatest Moments page.

For those that haven't visited the Group Website (or the Videos Section), there are several rare Videos available including:

• The Alpha Omega Bomb scenes from Battle
• Roddy in Ape make-up on the Carol Burnett Show
• POTA Mego Commercials
• The Simpsons POTA musical
• The Ape Movie Channel promo

There are also trailers for all the films including the 2001 remake.

The Greatest Moments page includes:

1. From Planet:
• Crash Landing
• Scarecrows
• The Hunt
• Taylor's Escape
• Landon's Fate
• The Cave
• Beware the Beast Man
• The Statue
2. From Beneath
• Where's Taylor
• Ursus' Speech
• The Lawgiver Bleeds
• Thy Inmost Self
• The Apes Attack
• End of the World
3. From Escape
• The Unveiling
• Where Are We?
• Shopping
• Hasslein's Dilema
• Cornelius' History
• Armando and Milo
4. From Conquest
• The Plague
• Lousy Human
• Ape Management
• Shock Table
• The Ape Revolt
• Caesar's Speech
5. From Battle
• The Forbidden City
• The Archives
• Now Fight Like Apes
6. From the TV Series
• Opening Credits
• The Trial
• Buried Alive
• Message from the Past
• The High Council
• Zaius' Study
7. From POTA 2001
• Thade's Father
• Pericles' Landing
• Thade is Trapped

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
>
> As an early Xmas gift to the group there are several new videos
available in the Videos section of the Group Website, specifically on
the Greatest Moments page.
>
> For those that haven't visited the Group Website (or the Videos
Section), there are several rare Videos available including:
> The Alpha Omega Bomb scenes from BattleRoddy in Ape make-up on the
Carol Burnett ShowPOTA Mego CommercialsThe Simpsons POTA musicalThe
Ape Movie Channel promo
> There are also trailers for all the films including the 2001 remake.
>
> The Greatest Moments page includes:
> From Planet:Crash LandingScarecrowsThe HuntTaylor's EscapeLandon's
FateThe CaveBeware the Beast ManThe StatueFrom BeneathWhere's
TaylorUrsus' SpeechThe Lawgiver BleedsThy Inmost SelfThe Apes
AttackEnd of the WorldFrom EscapeThe UnveilingWhere Are We?
ShoppingHasslein's DilemaCornelius' HistoryArmando and MiloFrom
ConquestThe PlagueLousy HumanApe ManagementShock TableThe Ape
RevoltCaesar's SpeechFrom BattleThe Forbidden CityThe ArchivesNow
Fight Like ApesFrom the TV SeriesOpening CreditsThe TrialBuried
AliveMessage from the PastThe High CouncilZaius' Study From POTA
2001Thade's FatherPericles' LandingThade is TrappedIn addition to
Videos the Group Site also includes high quality scans of the
original One Sheet posters and lobby cards. The Art & Info section
includes An extensive Character Database Scans of the 1968 Trading
Cards Original costume designs Restored comic covers An interactive
timeline and much more. To access the Group Site just click the
banner on the Yahoo Home Page or directly via this link:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm And don't
forget the resouces available on the Yahoo site. We have an extensive
files & photos section. Our Database section includes a full Comic
Database, Sacred Scrolls datebase, Timelines, etc. Happy Holidays
everyone!
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> Just some thoughts on the 'Hasslein Curve'. In Planet the
indication is
> that not everyone accepts Hasslein's theory. Taylor states to
Landon
> that 'the clocks bear out Hasslein's hypothosis'. But Landon
doens't
> accept it saying 'If we can't get back it is still just a theory'.
>
> It seems that some people agreed with Hasslein while others
didn't.
> That also brings into question the true nature of Taylor's
mission. He
> seems to have regarded it as a one way trip but it appears that
Landon
> did not.
>
> When the ship sinks Taylor says 'OK We're here to stay'. This
indicates
> that if the ship didn't sink they would have the option of
returning to
> Earth. This make's Brent's rescue mission more plausible since
there
> must have been some that were expecting Taylor & company to return.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> Air Conditioning? Alternating Current?
> Hey! This brings up another question?
> How do you get a clock to measure Earth
> Time in a spaceship anyway? Sounds
> like a Guesstimator to me. I doubt you'd
> have a radio-sync signal through a time warp.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> However, they certainly must have considered the possibility of it
> being a "on-way" ride, or why bother to bring a "New Eve" with them?
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> Simple, measure the relative positions of three stars. That would
give
> you a measure of the passage of time outside of the ship.
>
> Now Taylor's ship took the reading while in the lake, whereas
Brent
> took his reading while in orbit. In Escape the reading was taken
while
> in orbit too. Thus, without the distortion of the atmosphere (and
> possibly the lake water) a reading taken in orbit would be more
> accurate than one taken on the ground.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> >
> > Air Conditioning? Alternating Current?
> > Hey! This brings up another question?
> > How do you get a clock to measure Earth
> > Time in a spaceship anyway? Sounds
> > like a Guesstimator to me. I doubt you'd
> > have a radio-sync signal through a time warp.
> >
>

> the Twilight Zone where you are TRAPPED and can't possibly escape.

>
> Hello?
> Have we all been sucked into our own worm holes? Let me in!
> I though about unsubscribing, then decided not to in case there

> a worm hole to slide through to get through to someone on this

> the galaxy.
> In order to find a planet in the fam we glorify, we must first
> master suspended animation.
> For instance:
> The Labrador Retriever, his blodd drained from his body --
> replaced therein with ice-cold saline.
> Thirty minutes later, the blood, heated to the dog's temp,

> replaced. Giving a shock to his heart, the dog came BACK to life,
> therefor proving that "we" can travel through space and time to

> our Planet of the Apes. We really were planted here from other

> systems, y'know...
>

>
> Bend the curve of the universe and you arrive back at your point of
> arrival. Bend it over to touch another galaxy and you have a worm
> hole...
>

Do You Yahoo!?

> ,I like to find
> > just the right Pic
> > for Paint Reference But this time I'm looking for
> a
> > Still I've seen
> > (I just don't remember where!) of Caesar (from
> > "Battle") where he's
> > out on the Front Balconey of his Treehouse (It's
> > almost Full
> > Length),He is looking over the Railing and has one
> > if not both hands
> > on a Post.
>
>

THANKS FOR SPOILING IT..........

 Sorry about that. Elaine

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