>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> The offical DVD release of Lancelot Link is this Tuesday, June 13. I've
> pre-ordered mine. Anyone else getting it?
>
> -- Rory
>

I vaguely remember watching this show as a kid. I wonder what Zaius would have made of the "Evolution Revolution!"

>
> This is just me having fun so please don't anyone go taking it too
> seriously…
>
> I watched the new King Kong last night and in an alcohol-fuelled
> moment of insanity realised what it was really about… Planet of

>
> King Kong himself represents the Planet of the Apes franchise and what
> better way to represent the saga of that simian world than with a
> giant ape? Okay, it's not very subtle but hot damn, it works for me!
> So there's the franchise, towering over everything that surrounds it.
> Nothing comes close, not the sequels or any Lucasfilm produced
> pretender to the throne. It is king over all it surveys...
>
> Enter Skull Island - Just like the Ape franchise Skull Island has been
> pretty much forgotten about. There are the occasional rumours of its
> existence but it's lost in time just waiting to be rediscovered and
> who better than to attempt to rediscover a lost franchise? How about a
> bunch of Hollywood moviemakers. The movie company that employs Carl
> Denham is obviously 20th Century Fox, they have no clear idea of what
> it is that they want, only that they want it to make money and fast.
> They control the purse strings but the vision and the nuts and bolts
> of movie making they leave to someone else, someone expendable should
> things go wrong.
>
> Along with the film crew travels Anne Darrow, now is your typical
> Planet of the Apes, fan. She's in awe of the saga but willing to
> become fiercely protective of it when the occasion arises, she will
> sacrifice anything no matter what the cost to herself, she loves it,
> in a way that few can understand.
>
> Carl Denham, the movie producer is your typical dumbass promoter who
> has no love for Planet of the apes at all but merely sees it as an
> opportunity to meet his own ends. He will exploit Apes/Kong
> mercilessly and selfishly not caring one jot about the subject matter
> or who gets hurt along the way. It's all about HIM and of course if
> the franchise is entrusted into the care of such a person it can only,
> after attempting to scale great heights, tumble and fall.
>
> Dave B
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
>
> But who's silly idea was it to give Nova some clothes? :0)
>
> Dave
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> That's an excellent image.Now I want to see what they're looking at--
a
> bunch of Apes in uniform with jeeps and helicoptor! John.
> >
>

It cost Galen his freedon to read 'Simian Scrolls' #12, but it will only cost us lowly humans 6 bucks. (How do you like that for a tagline?)

Also, since a few people have requested it, the unadulterated 'Caesar as Wolverine' pic from last week has been uploaded to the files section. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/x7.jpg

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> Ahhh, Zaius is a ape of exquisite taste, I see.
>
> Issue 12 is due back from the printers any day now.
>
> Dave B
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> This is just me having fun so please don't anyone go taking it too
> seriously…
>
> I watched the new King Kong last night and in an alcohol-fuelled
> moment of insanity realised what it was really about… Planet of
the Apes.
>
> King Kong himself represents the Planet of the Apes franchise and
what
> better way to represent the saga of that simian world than with a
> giant ape? Okay, it's not very subtle but hot damn, it works for
me!
> So there's the franchise, towering over everything that surrounds
it.
> Nothing comes close, not the sequels or any Lucasfilm produced
> pretender to the throne. It is king over all it surveys...
>
> Enter Skull Island - Just like the Ape franchise Skull Island has
been
> pretty much forgotten about. There are the occasional rumours of
its
> existence but it's lost in time just waiting to be rediscovered and
> who better than to attempt to rediscover a lost franchise? How
about a
> bunch of Hollywood moviemakers. The movie company that employs Carl
> Denham is obviously 20th Century Fox, they have no clear idea of
what
> it is that they want, only that they want it to make money and
fast.
> They control the purse strings but the vision and the nuts and
bolts
> of movie making they leave to someone else, someone expendable
should
> things go wrong.
>
> Along with the film crew travels Anne Darrow, now is your typical
> Planet of the Apes, fan. She's in awe of the saga but willing to
> become fiercely protective of it when the occasion arises, she will
> sacrifice anything no matter what the cost to herself, she loves
it,
> in a way that few can understand.
>
> Carl Denham, the movie producer is your typical dumbass promoter
who
> has no love for Planet of the apes at all but merely sees it as an
> opportunity to meet his own ends. He will exploit Apes/Kong
> mercilessly and selfishly not caring one jot about the subject
matter
> or who gets hurt along the way. It's all about HIM and of course if
> the franchise is entrusted into the care of such a person it can
only,
> after attempting to scale great heights, tumble and fall.
>
> Dave B
>

>
> Interesting analogy. But then who is Jack Driscol supposed to
> represent?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> Ahhh, Zaius is a ape of exquisite taste, I see.
>
> Issue 12 is due back from the printers any day now.
>
> Dave B
>

----- Original Message -----

From: mattspence2

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:11 AM

Subject: [POTA] Re: Kong - not off topic

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@ ...> wrote:
>
> This is just me having fun so please don't anyone go taking it too
> seriously…
>
> I watched the new King Kong last night and in an alcohol-fuelled
> moment of insanity realised what it was really about… Planet of
the Apes.
>
> King Kong himself represents the Planet of the Apes franchise and what
> better way to represent the saga of that simian world than with a
> giant ape? Okay, it's not very subtle but hot damn, it works for me!
> So there's the franchise, towering over everything that surrounds it.
> Nothing comes close, not the sequels or any Lucasfilm produced
> pretender to the throne. It is king over all it surveys...
>
> Enter Skull Island - Just like the Ape franchise Skull Island has been
> pretty much forgotten about. There are the occasional rumours of its
> existence but it's lost in time just waiting to be rediscovered and
> who better than to attempt to rediscover a lost franchise? How about a
> bunch of Hollywood moviemakers. The movie company that employs Carl
> Denham is obviously 20th Century Fox, they have no clear idea of what
> it is that they want, only that they want it to make money and fast.
> They control the purse strings but the vision and the nuts and bolts
> of movie making they leave to someone else, someone expendable should
> things go wrong.
>
> Along with the film crew travels Anne Darrow, now is your typical
> Planet of the Apes, fan. She's in awe of the saga but willing to
> become fiercely protective of it when the occasion arises, she will
> sacrifice anything no matter what the cost to herself, she loves it,
> in a way that few can understand.
>
> Carl Denham, the movie producer is your typical dumbass promoter who
> has no love for Planet of the apes at all but merely sees it as an
> opportunity to meet his own ends. He will exploit Apes/Kong
> mercilessly and selfishly not caring one jot about the subject matter
> or who gets hurt along the way. It's all about HIM and of course if
> the franchise is entrusted into the care of such a person it can only,
> after attempting to scale great heights, tumble and fall.
>
> Dave B
>
The natives who worship Kong: the real fans, who can only watch as their
god is taken away from them. The pilots who kill Kong: the critics?

It cost Galen his freedon to read 'Simian Scrolls' #12, but it will only cost us lowly humans 6 bucks. (How do you like that for a tagline?)

Also, since a few people have requested it, the unadulterated 'Caesar as Wolverine' pic from last week has been uploaded to the files section. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/x7.jpg

 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> Ahhh, Zaius is a ape of exquisite taste, I see.
>
> Issue 12 is due back from the printers any day now.
>
> Dave B
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mr Elastic <backwardfeet@...> wrote:
>
> Hi James,
>
> This may be a stupid question: but what is Simian Scrolls? and the
6 bucks for issue #12. Being an "issue", I am assuming that it is a
publication of sorts; but the only POTA publication that I am aware of
is Ape Chronicles. I may want to subscribe to Scrolls.
>
> Please let me know.
>
> Moe
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknes@...> wrote:

> I have 50 episodes of Love American Style - these are very rare as >
> they are not released at all
> i'm sure i must have some of the Kim Hunter episodes

_____

----- Original Message -----

From: shanter2002

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 3:15 AM

Subject: [POTA] Re: OT: "Hulk" a "do over"

The good bits of Hulk were really good--the performand of Eric Banna
was, in my humble opinion, superb.The special effects creaked in
places, and Nick Nolte was a bit wasted(no pun intended), but, for me,
this WAS Hulk stripped back to basics.I usually get left feeling cold
by superhero movies, Spider-man and the first two Supermans being major
exceptions.It should be possible for Fox to do an Apes film right.Tim
Burton, for me, is an art director or a design guy, not a director.Can
you imagine Ang Lee on the Planet of the Apes--wow! Or Ridley Scott?
Apes films make lots of money and have lots of fans.I'd be totally
happy with a straight re-make of the original.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, KRae <valwp@...> wrote:
>
> Did I bitch about this movie yet? Almost every scene could have been
shortened to the benefit of the movie. I know some of you are really
fond of it, but I just wasn't happy with it. I'm thinking it's like
with authors - after they get so famous, no one dares to edit them
properly and the stories suffer. Somebody should have said, "Peter,
seriously. Got to edit this down." If you can't decide what needs to
go, the answer is not to leave it all in, IMO.
> Kass
>

>
> Did I bitch about this movie yet? Almost every scene could have been

>
> No, I can't see Ang Lee on the POTA...considering they have to redo his "Hulk". - - -

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <whisperingloon@...> wrote:
>
> And before you ask . . . yes, I did like Burton's Apes. So I've
completely negated any
> credibilty I could possibly have in this conversation.
>
> ~ Ben
>

>
> Hello All
> Has any one had any problems with their new DVD set. On disc 7, the
> first DVD in the set that starts the TV series, when Virdon and Burke
> first confront Zaius in his office, my DVD locks up and skips a few
> seconds. I received a replacement from Amazon and have the smae issue.
> Has any one else had this problem?
> John
>

>
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>
> Mine sticks when Zaius says "Or you'll destroy me (sticks then

> destroy me... (then plays) as your kind once destroyed the world...
>
> I purchased mine from deep discount dvd. I mention this only

> sometimes I've had luck exchanging discs from one retailer to

> when a consistant problem exists.
>
> I have had several of the Legacy sets, bad presses, exchanged with

> luck, (circuit city only, I haven't tried other retailers), haven't
> exchanged the Ultimate set (I've had several problems) but it seems

> in all both sets were really sloppy presses.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "luke_the_drifter52" <JLKINSER1970@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello All
> > Has any one had any problems with their new DVD set. On disc 7,

> > first DVD in the set that starts the TV series, when Virdon and

> > first confront Zaius in his office, my DVD locks up and skips a

> > seconds. I received a replacement from Amazon and have the smae

> > Has any one else had this problem?
> > John
> >
>

Yeah, Kassiopia, it sucked, didn't it?

-- Rory

That is the exact place where mine messes up at. Does any one know
who to contact at Fox? I will write them and see if they will look
into and correct the problem.
I exchanged my Ultimate set 3 times now and have had the same problem
with each DVD that begins the TV series; DVD number 7.
John

In pota@yahoogroups. com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@ ...> wrote:
>
> Mine sticks when Zaius says "Or you'll destroy me (sticks then
repeats)
> destroy me... (then plays) as your kind once destroyed the world...
>
> I purchased mine from deep discount dvd. I mention this only
because
> sometimes I've had luck exchanging discs from one retailer to
another
> when a consistant problem exists.
>
> I have had several of the Legacy sets, bad presses, exchanged with
no
> luck, (circuit city only, I haven't tried other retailers), haven't
> exchanged the Ultimate set (I've had several problems) but it seems
all
> in all both sets were really sloppy presses.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "luke_the_drifter52 " <JLKINSER1970@ >
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello All
> > Has any one had any problems with their new DVD set. On disc 7,
the
> > first DVD in the set that starts the TV series, when Virdon and
Burke
> > first confront Zaius in his office, my DVD locks up and skips a
few
> > seconds. I received a replacement from Amazon and have the smae
issue.
> > Has any one else had this problem?
> > John
> >
>

---

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> If you guys are talking about this scene in "Escape from
tomorrow" , I just checked my Ultimate copy and it seemed fine.......
>
> I'm heading to New Orleans for a couple of weeks for some work so
I'll try and catch up when I can!
>
> Tim
>
> luke_the_drifter52 <JLKINSER1970@...>
wrote: That is the exact place where
mine messes up at. Does any one know
> who to contact at Fox? I will write them and see if they will look
> into and correct the problem.
> I exchanged my Ultimate set 3 times now and have had the same
problem
> with each DVD that begins the TV series; DVD number 7.
> John
>
> In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@> wrote:
> >
> > Mine sticks when Zaius says "Or you'll destroy me (sticks then
> repeats)
> > destroy me... (then plays) as your kind once destroyed the
world...
> >

>
>
> ---------------------------------
> New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC
and save big.
>

>
> My brother purchased his from Amazon and it plays through. (he has

> older player as I do, his a sony, mine samsung) I guess some

> are more sensitive to the flaw in the press than others.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > If you guys are talking about this scene in "Escape from
> tomorrow" , I just checked my Ultimate copy and it seemed

> >
> > I'm heading to New Orleans for a couple of weeks for some work

> I'll try and catch up when I can!
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > luke_the_drifter52 <JLKINSER1970@>
> wrote: That is the exact place where
> mine messes up at. Does any one know
> > who to contact at Fox? I will write them and see if they will

> > into and correct the problem.
> > I exchanged my Ultimate set 3 times now and have had the same
> problem
> > with each DVD that begins the TV series; DVD number 7.
> > John
> >
> > In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mine sticks when Zaius says "Or you'll destroy me (sticks

> > repeats)
> > > destroy me... (then plays) as your kind once destroyed the
> world...
> > >
>
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your

> and save big.
> >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Ben

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:22 PM

Subject: [POTA] Re: OT: "Hulk" a "do over"

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> No, I can't see Ang Lee on the POTA...considering they have to redo his "Hulk". - - -
Jeff

They don't HAVE to redo his Hulk.

I'm a comic book fan and professional comic book writer and I actually liked his Hulk.

Although, that may guarantee I will never write a Hulk comic book. Although, the current
Hulk storyline REALLY appeals to me . . . and probably would appeal to some of you ape
fans.

Anyway, an Ang Lee Ape movie COULD be pretty good. But Ang Lee is a very personal
director. He makes his movies HIS movies. That might not go over very well for a franchise
film, like Apes. Or Hulk.

I think the Hulk "redo" will actually be more of a "re-focus" anyway, so it can still be a
Hollywood sequel, but something that would be more marketable. I sure hope we don't
have to sit through another origin story. I hate that superhero movies HAVE to do the
origin story.

And before you ask . . . yes, I did like Burton's Apes. So I've completely negated any
credibilty I could possibly have in this conversation.

~ Ben

>
>
> In a message dated 6/12/2006 1:17:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> drhasslein@... writes:
>
> There were some elements I liked -
> Heston's cameo
>
>
>
> Really?
> That's the point in the movie I go to take a leak.
> I like Heston, but sometimes he goes too far.
> I could except him as Count Richelieu, but
> Sherlock Holmes? Now way!
>

I recently found something that I wrote many years ago. It is a chronology of the events during Planet & Beneath, including BTS events that would be later revealed in Escape. Events that were seen on film are in normal type. Places where I've guessed at the time period and events that are total supposition by me are Bolded.

• November 25: Taylor and crew crash land in the Forbidden Zone.
• November 29: Taylor and crew reach the greenbelt. Taylor is captured in the hunt. (A bit of conjecture here based on Taylor's comment that they only have 3 days of food & water. Since none of the Astronauts are showing no signs of dehydration it could not have been far beyond the 3 days.)
• December 20: Taylor first communicates with Cornelius and Zira. Later that day Taylor escapes and speaks for the first time. (Again some conjecture based on the time it would reasonably take for Taylor's wound to heal and for Dodge to be stuffed and mounted in the Ape Museum.) That night Cornelius meets with Dr. Milo and tells him Taylor's tale.
• December 27: Dr. Milo sets out alone to the Forbidden Zone to find proof of Taylor's story.
• December 30: Dr. Milo arrives at Dead Lake and finds the rubber life raft and American flag.
• January 4: After days of searching Dr. Milo find Taylor's ship during a period of low tide lodged on a sand bar and retrieves the flight manual and checklists for study. He begins the journey back to Ape City for equipment to salvage the ship.
• January 6: Taylor's trial is convened. Cornelius & Zira are indicted for heresy. (Date is based on Taylor's statement to C&Z that he hadn't seen them for weeks.)
• January 7: Cornelius & Zira break out Taylor & Nova. The group heads to the Forbidden Zone. Milo returns from to Ape City later that day and learns of recent events. He carefully begins to gather the equipment and horses needed to salvage Taylor's ship. Zaius with a squad of Gorillas heads to the Forbidden Zone to find the fugitives. Ursus sends Scouts into the Zone to find the fugitives or any sign of a human colony that Taylor may have come from.
• January 9: Dodging Gorilla patrols, Dr. Milo heads back to Dead Lake with 12 horses and a wagon full of equipment. The first of Ursus' Gorilla scouts goes missing in the Zone.
• January 10: Taylor & group reach Cornelius' dig site. They are soon joined by Zaius and Gorillas. Taylor rides deeper into the Forbidden Zone and discovers the statue.
• January 12: Milo returns to the site of Taylor's ship. Waits for low tide the next day to begin his salvage attempt. During return trip to Ape City Zaius strikes a deal with Cornelius & Zira. They agree to silence about Taylor & their discoveries in return for clemency.
• January 13: After several attempts, Milo's 12 horses pull Taylor's ship off the sand bar and on to shore. Using the information in the Flight Manual and checklists, he is able to revive the ship's systems. Taylor & Nova find an oasis in the desert. Taylor tries to teach Nova his name. More Gorilla Scouts go missing. Zaius, Cornelius & Zira return to Ape City.
• January 15: Taylor disappears in the Forbidden Zone. Milo accesses the ship's main computer and learns more of how it is operated. Zaius gives C&Z access to secret scrolls to show them the true evil of man.
• January 16: One of Ursus' Scout returns from the Forbidden Zone. Evidently tortured, Ursus uses the incident to declare martial law.
• January 17: Brent's ship crashes in the Forbidden Zone. Zira discovers that she is pregnant. (Based on Zira's comments in Beneath & Escape.) Milo completely reactivates Taylor's ship.
• January 18: Brent encounters Nova, she takes him to Ape City. (Taylor askes the Gorillas for a week's supply of food and water. Thus, it is doubtful that Nova was wandering around the Forbidden Zone for long.) Milo journeys back to Ape City for supplies.
• January 19: Brent and Nova escape Ape City with Zira's help and discover Subway Station.
• January 20: Ursus, Zaius and Gorilla Army leave Ape City at sunrise to march on Forbidden Zone. Later that morning Milo returns to tell C&Z about Taylor's ship. The 3 gather supplies and leave Ape City for the ship.
• January 21: Brent & Nova are captured & interrogated by the mutants. Gorilla army reaches Forbidden Zone. (Based on Brent's comment that they had been in Ape City 2 days earlier.)
• January 22: Final Midnight mass is celebrated at St. Patrick's. Taylor, Brent & Nova are reunited. At dawn, Zaius discovers underground passage. Gorilla Army starts to march on Mutant City. Milo, Cornelius & Zira arrive at site of Taylor's ship and begin pre-launch checklist.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> I recently found something that I wrote many years ago. It is a
> chronology of the events during Planet & Beneath, including BTS events
> that would be later revealed in Escape. Events that were seen on film
> are in normal type. Places where I've guessed at the time period and events that are total
supposition by me are Bolded.
>
> * November 25: Taylor and crew crash land in the Forbidden Zone.
> * November 29: Taylor and crew reach the greenbelt. Taylor is
> captured in the hunt. (A bit of conjecture here based on Taylor's
> comment that they only have 3 days of food & water. Since none of the
> Astronauts are showing no signs of dehydration it could not have been
> far beyond the 3 days.)
> * December 20: Taylor first communicates with Cornelius and Zira.
> Later that day Taylor escapes and speaks for the first time. (Again some
> conjecture based on the time it would reasonably take for Taylor's wound
> to heal and for Dodge to be stuffed and mounted in the Ape Museum.) That
> night Cornelius meets with Dr. Milo and tells him Taylor's tale.
> * December 27: Dr. Milo sets out alone to the Forbidden Zone to find
> proof of Taylor's story.
> * December 30: Dr. Milo arrives at Dead Lake and finds the rubber
> life raft and American flag.
> * January 4: After days of searching Dr. Milo find Taylor's ship
> during a period of low tide lodged on a sand bar and retrieves the
> flight manual and checklists for study. He begins the journey back to
> Ape City for equipment to salvage the ship.
> * January 6: Taylor's trial is convened. Cornelius & Zira are
> indicted for heresy. (Date is based on Taylor's statement to C&Z that he
> hadn't seen them for weeks.)
> * January 7: Cornelius & Zira break out Taylor & Nova. The group
> heads to the Forbidden Zone. Milo returns from to Ape City later that
> day and learns of recent events. He carefully begins to gather the
> equipment and horses needed to salvage Taylor's ship. Zaius with a squad
> of Gorillas heads to the Forbidden Zone to find the fugitives. Ursus
> sends Scouts into the Zone to find the fugitives or any sign of a human
> colony that Taylor may have come from.
> * January 9: Dodging Gorilla patrols, Dr. Milo heads back to Dead
> Lake with 12 horses and a wagon full of equipment. The first of Ursus'
> Gorilla scouts goes missing in the Zone.
> * January 10: Taylor & group reach Cornelius' dig site. They are soon
> joined by Zaius and Gorillas. Taylor rides deeper into the Forbidden
> Zone and discovers the statue.
> * January 12: Milo returns to the site of Taylor's ship. Waits for
> low tide the next day to begin his salvage attempt. During return trip
> to Ape City Zaius strikes a deal with Cornelius & Zira. They agree to
> silence about Taylor & their discoveries in return for clemency.
> * January 13: After several attempts, Milo's 12 horses pull Taylor's
> ship off the sand bar and on to shore. Using the information in the
> Flight Manual and checklists, he is able to revive the ship's systems.
> Taylor & Nova find an oasis in the desert. Taylor tries to teach Nova
> his name. More Gorilla Scouts go missing. Zaius, Cornelius & Zira return
> to Ape City.
> * January 15: Taylor disappears in the Forbidden Zone. Milo accesses
> the ship's main computer and learns more of how it is operated. Zaius
> gives C&Z access to secret scrolls to show them the true evil of man.
> * January 16: One of Ursus' Scout returns from the Forbidden Zone.
> Evidently tortured, Ursus uses the incident to declare martial law.
> * January 17: Brent's ship crashes in the Forbidden Zone. Zira
> discovers that she is pregnant. (Based on Zira's comments in Beneath &
> Escape.) Milo completely reactivates Taylor's ship.
> * January 18: Brent encounters Nova, she takes him to Ape City.
> (Taylor askes the Gorillas for a week's supply of food and water. Thus,
> it is doubtful that Nova was wandering around the Forbidden Zone for
> long.) Milo journeys back to Ape City for supplies.
> * January 19: Brent and Nova escape Ape City with Zira's help and
> discover Subway Station.
> * January 20: Ursus, Zaius and Gorilla Army leave Ape City at sunrise
> to march on Forbidden Zone. Later that morning Milo returns to tell C&Z
> about Taylor's ship. The 3 gather supplies and leave Ape City for the
> ship.
> * January 21: Brent & Nova are captured & interrogated by the
> mutants. Gorilla army reaches Forbidden Zone. (Based on Brent's comment
> that they had been in Ape City 2 days earlier.)
> * January 22: Final Midnight mass is celebrated at St. Patrick's.
> Taylor, Brent & Nova are reunited. At dawn, Zaius discovers underground
> passage. Gorilla Army starts to march on Mutant City. Milo, Cornelius &
> Zira arrive at site of Taylor's ship and begin pre-launch checklist.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>>
> I think what's happening now is that they're burning DVDs at faster
rates and
> squeezing more into them, so you need a newer GOOD DVD player to read
them
> properly.
>
> GET A NEW PLAYER! BETTER YET, GET A RECORDER.
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@...> wrote:
>
> Damn good James. The whole Milo tie-in makes for a killer graphic
novel and offers more
> suspense than the whole series ever offered.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zachary Scott" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> Wow! That's great...but shouldn't that be "Brent's ship"? Because
Taylor's
> ship sank in that lake.
>
>
>
> Zach
>

>
> The Apes discs are the only ones I haven't been able to remedy,

> have hundreds of discs. Also, I can't find another player with as

> featues as the one I have now has (plus as I've stated before, it

> nuon)
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> >>
> > I think what's happening now is that they're burning DVDs at

> rates and
> > squeezing more into them, so you need a newer GOOD DVD player to

> them
> > properly.
> >
> > GET A NEW PLAYER! BETTER YET, GET A RECORDER.
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
>

>From: KRae <valwp@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [POTA] Re: Kong - not off topic (now - OT)
>Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:04:40 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Did I bitch about this movie yet? Almost every scene could have been
>shortened to the benefit of the movie. I know some of you are really fond
>of it, but I just wasn't happy with it. I'm thinking it's like with authors
>- after they get so famous, no one dares to edit them properly and the
>stories suffer. Somebody should have said, "Peter, seriously. Got to edit
>this down." If you can't decide what needs to go, the answer is not to
>leave it all in, IMO.
> Kass

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 6/13/2006 8:21:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> JamesA1102@... writes:
>
> if it hit a sand bar it might be salvagable during a period of low
tide.
>
>
>
>
> Not sure how much tide there is in an inland sea.
> I prefer the air pocket theory. Or maybe a self-
> righting system. Perhaps a bubble of CO 2 trapped
> in an inversion layer was release. There was a village
> in a valley in Africa that was wiped out, livestock and
> all when that happened in a mountain lake. ha carbon
> dioxide came down the hill at night displacing the oxygen
> in down in the valley and they all asphyxiated in their sleep.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
I like Blade Runner too. But thank God the studio made them do
> the voice over. Otherwise I'd have been going WTF? It gave it a
nice Film
> Noir quality too. I can watch it now on the Directors Cut without
it. But
> back when it was release the first time -- without it -- I may
have been left
> scratching my head. On the other hand it was so cool I might have
gone back
> to see it again to get it straight. If everyone else did it might
have been
> an even bigger cultural icon. But then they'd have to worry about
reviews.
>
> In a message dated 6/14/2006 8:23:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> Willowape@... writes:
>
I'm a real nutcase when it comes to post moderism -
> "Blade Runner" being my favorite in that regard.
>
> Wendy
>

In a message dated 6/15/2006 3:07:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, smugster2000@... writes:

And I guess somewhere in between they rode back to the oasis to
retreive his dog tags?

 

Nope, he kept them where Christopher Walken kept

Bruce Willis' watch!  Remember Pulp Fiction?

It's Standard Operating Procedure.

 

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>From: "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [POTA] Re: Blade Runner (OT)
>Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:09:24 -0000
>
>I'm a reader, I just luv to read...BLADE RUNNER, although a good
>movie, really upset me because it literally is only three chapters
>out of a great book -- DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP?, by
>Phillip K. Dick...
>
>G
>
>--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
> >
>I like Blade Runner too. But thank God the studio made them do
> > the voice over. Otherwise I'd have been going WTF? It gave it a
>nice Film
> > Noir quality too. I can watch it now on the Directors Cut without
>it. But
> > back when it was release the first time -- without it -- I may
>have been left
> > scratching my head. On the other hand it was so cool I might have
>gone back
> > to see it again to get it straight. If everyone else did it might
>have been
> > an even bigger cultural icon. But then they'd have to worry about
>reviews.
> >
> > In a message dated 6/14/2006 8:23:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > Willowape@... writes:
> >
>I'm a real nutcase when it comes to post moderism -
> > "Blade Runner" being my favorite in that regard.
> >
> > Wendy
> >
>
>
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Wendy Kostora" <Willowape@...> wrote:
>
> Three chapters?! How sad. I've always been aware that "Blade
Runner" was
> based on "Do Androids Dream Electric Sheep?" but never got around
to reading
> it. Just recently I saw the director's cut in Linguistics class.
Did you
> catch the unicorn thing??? Shocking, isn't it?
>
> Wendy
>
>
> >From: "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...>
> >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [POTA] Re: Blade Runner (OT)
> >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:09:24 -0000
> >
> >I'm a reader, I just luv to read...BLADE RUNNER, although a good
> >movie, really upset me because it literally is only three chapters
> >out of a great book -- DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP?, by
> >Phillip K. Dick...
> >
> >G
> >
> >--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
> > >
> >I like Blade Runner too. But thank God the studio made them do
> > > the voice over. Otherwise I'd have been going WTF? It gave
it a
> >nice Film
> > > Noir quality too. I can watch it now on the Directors Cut
without
> >it. But
> > > back when it was release the first time -- without it -- I may
> >have been left
> > > scratching my head. On the other hand it was so cool I might
have
> >gone back
> > > to see it again to get it straight. If everyone else did it
might
> >have been
> > > an even bigger cultural icon. But then they'd have to worry
about
> >reviews.
> > >
> > > In a message dated 6/14/2006 8:23:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > > Willowape@ writes:
> > >
> >I'm a real nutcase when it comes to post moderism -
> > > "Blade Runner" being my favorite in that regard.
> > >
> > > Wendy
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

 The dog tags was something that was invented for BENEATH and is simply another inconsistency between the two films.

 

Frankly, I don't think about it much.

 

-- Rory

 
-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:01:37 EDT
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Planet/Beneath Chronology

In a message dated 6/15/2006 1:43:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:

I always thought it was odd that the astronauts took their dog tags off in the first place......surely you can swim in them......

 

No seriously though .... they never had dog tags.

Check the skinny dipping scene.

 

***********************

Hmm. It would seem logical that the only place that Taylor could retrieve his dogtags would be from his own spaceship!  Could Taylor and Nova have journeyed back to the dead lake in a futile attempt to salvage his ship, met Dr Milo along the way and the two began the salvage operation???  Taylor and Brent are the only 2 beings on the planet who knew how to program the ship. For reasons unknown... Taylor and Nova return to NYC (perhaps to look for spare parts)? when they encounter the mutant's illusions and Taylor vanishes...

 

After their encounter with Brent, Cornelius and Zira inform Milo that Taylor is most likely not coming back and the three begin preparations for lift off.

 

Bill

>
> From TheDigitalBits.com:
>
> So here's the deal on Lancelot, direct from Image Entertainment. Their 2-disc release is

> ____________

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> The dog tags was something that was invented for BENEATH and is
simply another inconsistency between the two films.
>
> Frankly, I don't think about it much.
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 6/15/2006 1:43:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
>
>
>
> I always thought it was odd that the astronauts took their dog
tags off in
> the first place......surely you can swim in them......
>
>
>
>
>
> No seriously though .... they never had dog tags.
> Check the skinny dipping scene.
>

 I doubt it will surprise anyone here that I think BLADE RUNNER sucks, and NO, I've never read the original story.

 

-- Rory 

 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: hotscheetz <HotScheetz@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:05:09 -0000
Subject: [POTA] Re: Blade Runner (OT)

You should read the book...It's a great story...
I've never seen the Director's Cut...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Wendy Kostora" <Willowape@. ..> wrote:
>
> Three chapters?! How sad. I've always been aware that "Blade
Runner" was
> based on "Do Androids Dream Electric Sheep?" but never got around
to reading
> it. Just recently I saw the director's cut in Linguistics class.
Did you
> catch the unicorn thing??? Shocking, isn't it?
>
> Wendy
>
>
> >From: "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@ ...>
> >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> >To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> >Subject: [POTA] Re: Blade Runner (OT)
> >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:09:24 -0000
> >
> >I'm a reader, I just luv to read...BLADE RUNNER, although a good
> >movie, really upset me because it literally is only three chapters
> >out of a great book -- DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP?, by
> >Phillip K. Dick...
> >
> >G
> >
> >--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
> > >
> >I like Blade Runner too. But thank God the studio made them do
> > > the voice over. Otherwise I'd have been going WTF? It gave
it a
> >nice Film
> > > Noir quality too. I can watch it now on the Directors Cut
without
> >it. But
> > > back when it was release the first time -- without it -- I may
> >have been left
> > > scratching my head. On the other hand it was so cool I might
have
> >gone back
> > > to see it again to get it straight. If everyone else did it
might
> >have been
> > > an even bigger cultural icon. But then they'd have to worry
about
> >reviews.
> > >
> > > In a message dated 6/14/2006 8:23:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > > Willowape@ writes:
> > >
> >I'm a real nutcase when it comes to post moderism -
> > > "Blade Runner" being my favorite in that regard.
> > >
> > > Wendy
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Zach Scott

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Escape From POTA oddity I just noticed

Regarding ESCAPE, I wish that the deleted footage when Cornelius, Zira and Milo took off in the third ship, witnessed the destruction of the planet, went through the Hasslein Curve, and landed in the ocean would have been included on this latest DVD reissue...but I was told that it didn't, the movie started out when the third ship with our chimpanzee friends was floating in the ocean, and the eventual rescue, etc.  I would have considered purchasing the set if the deleted scenes had been included...not only in ESCAPE, but BENEATH also had some.   Zach    -------Original Message-------   From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 04/04/06 23:54:41 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Escape From POTA oddity I just noticed   I was looking at the beginning of Escape From POTA and when they had the opening credits and noticed something with the scene behind Ricardo Montalbon's credit.   One part of the image in the scene shifts in relation to the other. It's the sort of thing you sometimes see in split screen scenes that have the same actor playing both roles. Both sides of the scene were filmed at seperate times and joined together as a split screen.   Well, there was no need for that in the scene with RM's credit, it's a scene of the beach shore with the helicopter leaving (with the apeonauts)   Then I noticed it.   The dust on the helicopter is moving inward: The shot of the helicopter leaving is actually a helicopter landing in reverse.   I suppose that they found they needed a shot of the helicopter leaving but only had a shot of a helicopter landing. If they simply reversed the whole shot, the waves on the shore in the scene would run backwards as well (and would be quite noticable). So, they did a little slight of hand split screen.   The part of the scene with the shore runs forward motion is split screened with the reverse motion helicopter portion. < DIV>        Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original pota One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more... Yahoo! Groups Links   <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/   <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:     pota-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com   <*>     http://docs.yahoo.com/info/ terms/

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> I love this chronology--it really gets you thinking.I wonder did Milo
> realise he was going into space, or did he think he'd found a plane
> that could take him somewhere safe on the Planet---to protect Zira's
> baby? Was that in fact going to happen, ie, were they going to land
> elsewhere, before the destruction of Earth and the shockwave hurled
the
> ship into some sort of safe mode? The dogtags point is something that
> has bothered me--you feel like screaming at Nova -'Don't ask where
he's
> been hiding them all this time--you may not like what you find!'.The
> swimming scene at the start of Planet has my personal hate moment--
when
> (I think) Landon screams 'Yay, Yay!' as he jumps in makes my toes
curl--
> it just sounds wrong.John, Scrolls.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> I doubt it will surprise anyone here that I think BLADE RUNNER sucks, and NO, I've never
read the original story.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hotscheetz <HotScheetz@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:05:09 -0000
> Subject: [POTA] Re: Blade Runner (OT)
>
>
> You should read the book...It's a great story...
> I've never seen the Director's Cut...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Wendy Kostora" <Willowape@> wrote:
> >
> > Three chapters?! How sad. I've always been aware that "Blade
> Runner" was
> > based on "Do Androids Dream Electric Sheep?" but never got around
> to reading
> > it. Just recently I saw the director's cut in Linguistics class.
> Did you
> > catch the unicorn thing??? Shocking, isn't it?
> >
> > Wendy
> >
> >
> > >From: "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@>
> > >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [POTA] Re: Blade Runner (OT)
> > >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:09:24 -0000
> > >
> > >I'm a reader, I just luv to read...BLADE RUNNER, although a good
> > >movie, really upset me because it literally is only three chapters
> > >out of a great book -- DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP?, by
> > >Phillip K. Dick...
> > >
> > >G
> > >
> > >--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
> > > >
> > >I like Blade Runner too. But thank God the studio made them do
> > > > the voice over. Otherwise I'd have been going WTF? It gave
> it a
> > >nice Film
> > > > Noir quality too. I can watch it now on the Directors Cut
> without
> > >it. But
> > > > back when it was release the first time -- without it -- I may
> > >have been left
> > > > scratching my head. On the other hand it was so cool I might
> have
> > >gone back
> > > > to see it again to get it straight. If everyone else did it
> might
> > >have been
> > > > an even bigger cultural icon. But then they'd have to worry
> about
> > >reviews.
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 6/14/2006 8:23:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > > > Willowape@ writes:
> > > >
> > >I'm a real nutcase when it comes to post moderism -
> > > > "Blade Runner" being my favorite in that regard.
> > > >
> > > > Wendy
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> ____________

Happy Friday everyone. A new LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now available. Thank you again to all who contributed.

To view the new Lesson just click the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm

Also, the Planet/Beneath Chronology has been uploaded to the Group's database section. Use this link and click "Chonology": http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database

Finally, scans of original TV Guide ads for the TV series have been added to the TV Ads page of the Group website. The Group Website can be accessed by clicking the Banner on the Yahoo Home page. The TV Ads page is in the Art & Info section. Or just us this link to go directly to the TV Ads page: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/TVAds.htm

Email only members and non-members can go to the mirror site at: http://www.freewebs.com/planetoftheapes/

Have a great weekend everyone!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@...> wrote:
> And to keep this on topic, David Watson swinging his arms answering
the door in
> 'Beneath' has got to be the silliest thing ever.
>

>
> Along with Landon yelling "Yay, Yay" we have two nominees. Are there
> any others?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@> wrote:
> > And to keep this on topic, David Watson swinging his arms answering
> the door in
> > 'Beneath' has got to be the silliest thing ever.
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> I missed the beginning of this thread. Are we taking nominations
for the
> "Silliest" moments in POTADOM? If so -- and if we're just
limiting it to the
> film series -- then I nominate the entire "The Ape Has Killed
Ape!" tree climbing
> sequence in BATTLE. What a drop from the standard of the original
film that
> scene represents. Can you imagine Frank Schaffner directing such
a thing?
> Silly... and sad.
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@...> wrote:
>
> The soldier apes in Beneath doing somersaults and various
calisthenics is kind of silly too.
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:40 AM

Subject: [POTA] Re: Blade Runner (OT)

 I doubt it will surprise anyone here that I think BLADE RUNNER sucks, and NO, I've never read the original story.

 

-- Rory 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: hotscheetz <HotScheetz@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:05:09 -0000
Subject: [POTA] Re: Blade Runner (OT)

You should read the book...It's a great story...
I've never seen the Director's Cut...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Wendy Kostora" <Willowape@. ..> wrote:
>
> Three chapters?! How sad. I've always been aware that "Blade
Runner" was
> based on "Do Androids Dream Electric Sheep?" but never got around
to reading
> it. Just recently I saw the director's cut in Linguistics class.
Did you
> catch the unicorn thing??? Shocking, isn't it?
>
> Wendy
>
>
> >From: "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@ ...>
> >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> >To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> >Subject: [POTA] Re: Blade Runner (OT)
> >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:09:24 -0000
> >
> >I'm a reader, I just luv to read...BLADE RUNNER, although a good
> >movie, really upset me because it literally is only three chapters
> >out of a great book -- DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP?, by
> >Phillip K. Dick...
> >
> >G
> >
> >--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
> > >
> >I like Blade Runner too. But thank God the studio made them do
> > > the voice over. Otherwise I'd have been going WTF? It gave
it a
> >nice Film
> > > Noir quality too. I can watch it now on the Directors Cut
without
> >it. But
> > > back when it was release the first time -- without it -- I may
> >have been left
> > > scratching my head. On the other hand it was so cool I might
have
> >gone back
> > > to see it again to get it straight. If everyone else did it
might
> >have been
> > > an even bigger cultural icon. But then they'd have to worry
about
> >reviews.
> > >
> > > In a message dated 6/14/2006 8:23:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > > Willowape@ writes:
> > >
> >I'm a real nutcase when it comes to post moderism -
> > > "Blade Runner" being my favorite in that regard.
> > >
> > > Wendy
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:
>
> We've just added another script to Hunter's site. It's an earlier
draft for the final TV episode, "Up Above the World So High" that has a
significantly different ending from the filmed version. Thanks to Mark
Rogers for providing the scans for this script.
>
> Also recently added to Hunter's site are cover scans of two
Brazilian Apes books by Luiz Adami and Eduardo Torelli. You can find
those on the miscellaneous page.
>
> https://pota.goatley.com
>
> Greg
>