In a message dated 5/30/2006 10:49:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bikergator25@... writes:

Im hooked also. Desmond should be a major player next sesason.

 

Yeah. if he and Locke weren't killed with Eko.

You may have noticed that the two they killed

this season were the ones busted for drunk driving.

Very handy for the writers.  If anyone wants a raise,

or becomes a problem . . . Bang!  Their character

get's killed off like they were on a soap opera.

I'll bet that keeps production costs down at

the contract renegotiation meetings.  ; )

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 5/30/2006 10:49:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bikergator25@... writes:

Im hooked also. Desmond should be a major player next sesason.

 

Yeah. if he and Locke weren't killed with Eko.

You may have noticed that the two they killed

this season were the ones busted for drunk driving.

Very handy for the writers.  If anyone wants a raise,

or becomes a problem . . . Bang!  Their character

get's killed off like they were on a soap opera.

I'll bet that keeps production costs down at

the contract renegotiation meetings.  ; )

 

 

 

 

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i THINK THAT eKO dESMOND AND lOCKE ARE ALIVE.
I also think that Kelvin is going to Sayed again......
Dave.

LordTZer0@... wrote:

In a message dated 5/30/2006 10:49:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bikergator25@... writes:

Im hooked also. Desmond should be a major player next sesason.

 

Yeah. if he and Locke weren't killed with Eko.

You may have noticed that the two they killed

this season were the ones busted for drunk driving.

Very handy for the writers.  If anyone wants a raise,

or becomes a problem . . . Bang!  Their character

get's killed off like they were on a soap opera.

I'll bet that keeps production costs down at

the contract renegotiation meetings.  ; )

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 5/30/2006 12:52:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:

I think Locke and Eko are too popular characters and they really haven't used Eko much yet......

 

Well, Charlie made out like a bandit.

Not only did he get back at Locke for

punching him, and Eko for dissing him,

but he's back with his girlfriend.  And

that explosion couldn't have damaged

his hearing much more than it already

was, being bass player for Drive Shaft!

 

 

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I get the feeling the apes don't consider the Lawgiver "god-like"
but more
> as a Moses type with the Ten Commandments; chosen. Jeff
>

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Thinking about this the closest comparison I can come to is Mohammed in
Islam. Like the Lawgiver, he is not God or divine, but is God's
messenger to his chosen people.
Looking at Beneath, both the Apes and the Mutants believe that they are
chosen by God. Not a very different situation than we have on the
planet today.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I get the feeling the apes don't consider the Lawgiver "god-like"
but more
> as a Moses type with the Ten Commandments; chosen. Jeff
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Drucker" <sdrucker@...> wrote:
>
> Or the Crusades.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> That's a good point, James. I hadn't thought of it before but there
are
> two religious ceremonies in "Beneath"; the army praying before they
leave
> and the mutant bomb worship. Ape City is in the Middle East. - - -
Jeff
>

Charlie seemed real strange or funny like he was up to something. Just my view. How long before Sayed  figures out that he was fooked. '
He probably sees Mike and Walts boat go by...      The chase is on......
Dave..

LordTZer0@... wrote:

In a message dated 5/30/2006 12:52:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:

I think Locke and Eko are too popular characters and they really haven't used Eko much yet......

 

Well, Charlie made out like a bandit.

Not only did he get back at Locke for

punching him, and Eko for dissing him,

but he's back with his girlfriend.  And

that explosion couldn't have damaged

his hearing much more than it already

was, being bass player for Drive Shaft!

 

 

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And the Apes are only invading the Forbidden Zone for vitally needed
resources. Again very similar to what's happening today.

(Plus Ursus' speech is such a combination of race hatred, religious
demagoguery and blind patriotism it reminds me of FOX News.)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@...> wrote:
>
>   That's a good point, James. I hadn't thought of it before but there
are
> two religious ceremonies in "Beneath"; the army praying before they
leave
> and the mutant bomb worship. Ape City is in the Middle East. - - -
Jeff
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> What vitally needed resources? and isn't that what most wars are
about? religion?
>
> Tim
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> And the Apes are only invading the Forbidden Zone for vitally needed
> resources. Again very similar to what's happening today.
>
> (Plus Ursus' speech is such a combination of race hatred, religious
> demagoguery and blind patriotism it reminds me of FOX News.)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, atragon1@... wrote:
>
> Greetings! This is my first post.
>
> There is only one reason that the gorillas are allowed by the
Council to
> invade the Forbidden Zone - famine. The famine in Ape City was
apparently caused
> by the rapidly growing human population constantly pillaging the
crops
> (remember the apes are all vegetarians). The apes have learned
through various reports
> by sentries that after centuries of inactivity, there is indeed
life in the
> Forbidden Zone - and that that life must have food in order to
survive.
>
> Ursus' underlying motive in his speech is to find food for his
people. His
> jingoistic rhetoric is used solely to rouse his gorilla army into
an invasion
> ... after all, the gorillas would be much more willing to march
into war against
> a military threat to their civilization rather than the more
mundane need to
> find food sources...
>
> Bill
>

>
> Thinking about this the closest comparison I can come to is Mohammed in
> Islam. Like the Lawgiver, he is not God or divine, but is God's
> messenger to his chosen people.

>
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" JamesA1102@ wrote:
>
> All this talk about the Lawgiver now has me wondering how the Apes
> percieved thier God. In the prologue to Battle, John Huston's Lawgiver
> makes several references ("In the beginning God created beast and Man.")
>
> 'His' God would appear to be one that is shared between the species
> and Caeser is referred to as a Christ-like saviour ("God, in his wrath
> sent the world a saviour).

I'm not so sure that Caeser is Christ-like in the eyes of the Apes. Christ is the Son of God and therefore divine. Caeser is not noted as having any God-like powers. I many ways he is more like Moses. Sent by God, but not a God.

>
> Of course the world of 'Battle' is a vastly different from that seen
> in 'Planet'.
>
> But... I wondered, is that why the Lawgiver became, perhaps, more
> celebrated than a God? Because in the 'great book' were there constant
> references to Man and his history of war and violence and once
> dominance over the world? Did the orangutans supress belief in a God
> and favour instead the teachings of a manufactured and easily
> manipulated Lawgiver figure that could basically teach whatever they
> wanted him to?
>
> Dave
>
Very true, extremists in most religions suppress what they don't like and highlight what the want to promote. It is not beyond imagining that this what the Orangutans did in order to stay in power.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> If it's a Holy War, maybe the flags and banners carried by the
gorilla
> army are religious, not military, symbols? Possibly like the Cross on
> the Crusaders in the Middle East? These movies never stop showing
more
> depth.John, Scrolls.

> I'm not so sure that Caeser is Christ-like in the eyes of the Apes.
> Christ is the Son of God and therefore divine. Caeser is not noted as
> having any God-like powers. I many ways he is more like Moses. Sent by
> God, but not a God.

I can't imagine the others would just let Mike and Walt just leave....

David Giwner <bikergator25@...> wrote:

Charlie seemed real strange or funny like he was up to something. Just my view. How long before Sayed  figures out that he was fooked. '
He probably sees Mike and Walts boat go by...      The chase is on......
Dave..

LordTZer0@... wrote:

In a message dated 5/30/2006 12:52:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:

I think Locke and Eko are too popular characters and they really haven't used Eko much yet......

 

Well, Charlie made out like a bandit.

Not only did he get back at Locke for

punching him, and Eko for dissing him,

but he's back with his girlfriend.  And

that explosion couldn't have damaged

his hearing much more than it already

was, being bass player for Drive Shaft!

 

 

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I'm going to be a killjoy here and ask that any further non-POTA
related discussions be taken offline.

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In a message dated 5/30/2006 3:27:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:

We never saw where Sayid, Jin and Sun wound up "for the summer".......

 

Yeah . . . I worry about Jack's plans, but what was Sayid's plan?

Sail up and get himself captured?  Not to mention Jin, and his

pregnant wife.  Let all go save the other principal characters

with a pregnant Sun by attacking the babynappers from

the open sea.  That's a good plan.  Especially after

leaving their best Survival Guy and The Muscle to

get blown up by The Button.  Sometimes the

writing on LOST tends to make me lean

more towards House as my fave show.

24 is the same way.  Sometimes I

just yell "Oh Come On!" at the TV

when I see the stuff like that.

 

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, atragon1@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 5/30/2006 9:43:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@... writes:
> The Apes are invading the Forbidden Zone for food because they are
> facing famine.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > What vitally needed resources? and isn't that what most wars are
> about? religion?
> >
> > Tim
> >
> Greetings! This is my first post.
>
> There is only one reason that the gorillas are allowed by the
Council to
> invade the Forbidden Zone - famine. The famine in Ape City was
apparently caused
> by the rapidly growing human population constantly pillaging the
crops
> (remember the apes are all vegetarians). The apes have learned
through various reports
> by sentries that after centuries of inactivity, there is indeed
life in the
> Forbidden Zone - and that that life must have food in order to
survive.
>
> Ursus' underlying motive in his speech is to find food for his
people. His
> jingoistic rhetoric is used solely to rouse his gorilla army into
an invasion
> ... after all, the gorillas would be much more willing to march
into war against
> a military threat to their civilization rather than the more
mundane need to
> find food sources...
>
> Bill
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Guess which APES sequel made the list....
>
> http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1169126_21_0_,00.html"
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings, Bill...Welcome...
>
> Good points...I guess it would be more exciting to the gorillas for
> Ursus to say, "Let's kick butt!", rather than say, "Let's go find
> some eats!"...=)
>
> G

I've always imagined that it was Taylor's arrival that utimately lead to the war in Beneath. Why would Ursus send scouts into the Forbidden Zone if it was considered a lifeless wasteland. However, if Ursus shared Zaius' opinion that Taylor was from a jungle beyond the Forbidden Zone, then it would make sense to send scouts to find it.

>
> BTW, for trivia's sake, does anyone know where James Gregory is
> ACTUALLY pointing to when he gestures to the Forbidden Zone in his
> speech?...You won't win a prize for the right answer, this is just
> for fun...=)
>
> G
>

I'll guess the set of M*A*S*H.

>
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> Of course it is Battle. Particularly the theatrical version. Without
> the Alpha-Omega bomb scenes it is just a generic adventure with the
> Apes.
>
> However, this has got to be the worst sequel ever:
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=T-yn_Fnve-Q&search=titanic%202

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@...> wrote:
>
> Funny.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> > Of course it is Battle. Particularly the theatrical version.
Without
> > the Alpha-Omega bomb scenes it is just a generic adventure with
the
> > Apes.
> >
> > However, this has got to be the worst sequel ever:
> > http://youtube.com/watch?v=T-yn_Fnve-Q&search=titanic%202
>

>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> > BTW, for trivia's sake, does anyone know where James Gregory is
> > ACTUALLY pointing to when he gestures to the Forbidden Zone in his
> > speech?...You won't win a prize for the right answer, this is just
> > for fun...=)
> >
> > G
> >
>
>
> I'll guess the set of M*A*S*H.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, atragon1@... wrote:
>
> In ESCAPE, Cornelius tells Hasslien al about the pre-history of the Apes.
> Cornelius knows about the plague that wiped out all dogs and cats, he knows about
> man's attempts to domesticate and eventual enslave the apes...he even knows
> about Aldo saying "No."

> When did Cornelius discover this information?

I've often wondered how much Zaius knew of Earth's future. He is against the war but goes into the Forbidden Zone with the army. Why? When confronted with the Alpha-Omega bomb he is the only Ape that seems to know its power.

Also, what was C&Z's motivation for going with Milo. Surely not just for a joy ride. Especially since Zira knew she was pregnant prior to the journey.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, atragon1@... wrote:
>
> Could the "secret scrolls" have also held some information about earth's
> destruction? The gorilla war, the Alpha Omega bomb -- fragments of C&Z's own
> testimony to Hasslien some 2000 plus years earlier!
>
> What else would have prompted them to leave the planet?
> There is much to ponder....
>
> Bill
>

> Its at this
> point that C&Z confide in Dr Milo and attempts to salvage the ship

> Also, what was C&Z's motivation for going with Milo. Surely not just for
> a joy ride. Especially since Zira knew she was pregnant prior to the
> journey.
>

> How else could he
> get into the Zone and raise the ship without
> any interference from the Ministry of Science.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 6/2/2006 3:20:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> smugster2000@... writes:
>
> Nice one T, I like your thinking. Maybe Milo could do the above under
> cover of impending war? All eyes may have been busy looking in other
> directions.
>
>
>
> Yes, possibly. On the other hand I would think that security would
> be extremely tight on the eve of war. Then again extra tight security
> doesn't always mean extra security, having heard about the security
> slip ups of late, I'm sure we're all aware of that fact, being in the news.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:
>
> Ah, the Lawgiver conundrum.
>
> Is the Lawgiver from Battle the same Lawgiver from Beneath?
>
> Check out Revolution on the Planet of the Apes #5 (going to the
printers in
> about a week, on sale a week or so after that) with a story that
directly
> discusses that very problem, drawn by Apes Veteran KENT BURLES, in
his first
> Apes story in colour!
>
> The answer will finally revealed.
>
> Ty the plugging Guy.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Nope, not the sequel to Brokeback, but somethingI noticed on the
Behind
> the POTA disc where they talk about the sequel to Planet.There's a
> picture of what seems to be a Serling script called 'The Dark Side of
> the Earth', which, from what I can make out, mentions students
watching
> film of Taylor.Anybody got this script or know where it is?
> Also, the same sequence shows storyboards for Beneath, including a
> gorilla riding through a field of crucified apes---the art for this
is
> really, really good.Anybody know where we could see more? John,
Scrolls.
>

Heres more on the battle DC comics superheroes wage on gorillas, partially as a result of the popularity of POTA:

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1483934

I remember from the Justice League DC comic an evil intelligent gorilla named General Zog (I think).  I thought for sure that Boulle and Serling had infuenced this conception, but a google search on batman+gorilla turned up a running motif of intelligent gorillas in comics of the 50s and 60s.  Human brain transplants and such.  (I think the Nazis did some experiments in this area.) As the writer on the following site observes, "gorillas = sales."  Apparently POTA won recognition when it did not just due to the space race but also they heydey of apes in the pulp market.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> Here's a CONQUEST DVD cover I made last week. Notice the title in
the spine.
> CONQUEST really doesn't have a logo like the first three movies, so
I had
> just the art from the 1-sheet and lift the letters from that. I
can't say I
> really like it entirely, but it kind of works.
>
> Now to BATTLE and then that's that!
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "mattspence2" <mspence@...> wrote:
>
> An interesting question: Did Zaius let them escape in the hope that ape
> knowledge and his civilization might survive somewhere else?

I don't think Zaius let them escape, I think he just didn't want a public trial.

> Why did Zaius take what looked like the entire Ape Army with him while there was
> so much discontent at home? He couldn't have expected the orangutangs to
> keep control with just a few gorilla police, could he?
>

Who know how many Gorillas were left in Ape City? Even if there were only a few, they had the guns.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:
>
> Ah, the Lawgiver conundrum.
>
> Is the Lawgiver from Battle the same Lawgiver from Beneath?
>
> Check out Revolution on the Planet of the Apes #5 (going to the
printers in
> about a week, on sale a week or so after that) with a story that
directly
> discusses that very problem, drawn by Apes Veteran KENT BURLES, in
his first
> Apes story in colour!
>
> The answer will finally revealed.
>
> Ty the plugging Guy.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, atragon1@... wrote:
>
> At the beginning of CONQUEST, we see that ape labor has become a necessary
> evil in this society. However, there are reports (before Caesar even starts his
> revolution) that there are a great rise in the number of ape disobedience and
> unauthorized gatherings.
>
> But how did apes become so intelligent within only 20 years after Cornelius,
> Milo, and Zira'a arrival on earth?
>
> I would conjecture that after the apeonaut's deaths, there bodies were put
> into storage and used -- from time to time -- by scientists for study. Years
> later, the plague from space killed man's pets and apes were then used as a
> substitute. It was not long after this that is was realized the Apes could be
> trained for manual labor, however training them and conditioning them was costly
> and time consuming -- and their abilities were limited at best.
>
> It would be at this point that the company or companies that procured the ape
> slave trade discovered that the genes of Cornelius, Zira and Milo could be
> used to breed a new race of apes -- eugenically programmed to learn quicker than
> your average ape.
>
> Of course, the government approved of this -- no doubt the lobbying dollars
> of these powerful ape brokers, outweighed the prophecies of C&Z regarding the
> downfall of mankind.

Very well put Bill. This explanation makes the most sense. Maybe the companies were InGen and Cyberdyne ;-)

>
> By the time Caesar arrives in the city, I would think that there were already
> isolated incidents of apes who could speak. These apes were rounded up and
> destroyed immediately by the police. Why else would the police be so ready to
> accept the possibility that it was Caesar who could have made the outburst?

Not to sure about this. If there were other talking apes, Breck wouldn't assume that Caesar was the son of C&Z.

>
> It was too late when man realized that these apes were now too smart -- there
> was no way to remove all the apes from society without the economy
> collapsing. All they could do was to create a "police state" and destroy any and all
> apes that were too intelligent (classified as "disobedient") as they surfaced.
> Caesar is really only the spark that sets off the forest fire that would be the
> ape revolution.
>
> Bill
>
This makes sense also but only that the Apes were getting too smart not that any could talk yet.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> Who?...=)
>
> G
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> Marky Mark!
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > Who?...=)
> >
> > G
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "mattspence2" <mspence@...> wrote:
>
> I've posted yet another fanfic in that section. Ever wonder what was
> going on in the rest of the world when the Bomb went off? Now you
know!
> [:D] Set during Beneath.
>

Thanks again Greg! Just curious, how many more issues are there of the UK series?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:
>
> This week's issue, containing the stunning conclusion to last week's story of Derek Zane and the chimp who calls himself Robin Hood, is now available to download from Hunter's site.
>
> Next week, Jason and Alexander are back with more Terror on the Planet of the Apes!
>
> https://pota.goatley.com
>
> Greg
>

Thanks again Greg! Just curious, how many more issues are there of the UK series?

.

>
> WOW! I certainly would like to see this, unfortunately, I can't seem

> it to download for me. Can anyone help me here? It would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> James has a direct link (see his message). Also you should be able to

>
> From: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Date: 06/07/06 03:21:31
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [Planet of the Apes] New Fanfiction!
>
>
>
> I've posted yet another fanfic in that section. Ever wonder what was

> on in the rest of the world when the Bomb went off? Now you know! Set
> during Beneath.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> The offical DVD release of Lancelot Link is this Tuesday, June 13. I've
> pre-ordered mine. Anyone else getting it?
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> The offical DVD release of Lancelot Link is this Tuesday, June 13.
I've
> pre-ordered mine. Anyone else getting it?
>
> -- Rory
>

I just saw this on the Ansanaut's site:

Pretty cool! There is another alternate version.

Check it out: http://www.goingfaster.com/icarus/thereturn.htm

>
> I just saw this on the Ansanaut's site: