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In a message dated 7/23/2006 3:35:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

Aren't they redoing I Am Legend with Will Smith?

Yes, but at least they are keeping the Vampires, vampires. If you have Omega on DVD, there's a cool little documentary explaining why they went mutant instead of Vampire. It's one of my favorite films and always will be. I love my Heston Triumvurate, Planet, Omega and Soylent. I'll always be a Charlton fan.

 

 

"People shouldn't fear their governments. Governments should fear their people."
V; V for Vendetta.

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A few years ago Dave Ballard wrote an extraordinary fan fiction about
the POTA tv series called "Values," which eventually ended up being
produced as a non-profit audio drama with art by Neil Foster. Cds were
exchanged for donations to a 9/11 charity. Now it's available at my
site in 7 parts in mp3 in files ranging in size for 2-10 plus megs, and
featuring the vocal talents of Mark Donovan, Peter Hinchman & Thomas
Himinez."

The producers suggest that if you enjoy the download you might consider
donating a couple of dollars to a local animal charity.

You'll be amazed at what a determined fan or two can bring to life -
it's like another, better episode of the tv series.

https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com

--Kassidy

Thanks Kass and Dave. I would recommend Values if for people who are
not big fans of the TV series. It is very well done.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@...> wrote:
>
> A few years ago Dave Ballard wrote an extraordinary fan fiction
about
> the POTA tv series called "Values," which eventually ended up
being
> produced as a non-profit audio drama with art by Neil Foster. Cds
were
> exchanged for donations to a 9/11 charity. Now it's available at
my
> site in 7 parts in mp3 in files ranging in size for 2-10 plus
megs, and
> featuring the vocal talents of Mark Donovan, Peter Hinchman &
Thomas
> Himinez."
>
> The producers suggest that if you enjoy the download you might
consider
> donating a couple of dollars to a local animal charity.
>
> You'll be amazed at what a determined fan or two can bring to
life -
> it's like another, better episode of the tv series.
>
> https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com
>
> --Kassidy
>

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In a message dated 7/23/2006 6:35:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

Aren't they redoing I Am Legend with Will Smith?

 

Yes...I saw them setting up a scene at the Union Square Farmer's market a few months ago...all the fruit/vegetable stands were strung with garlic for sale!

Bruce

 

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I agree. Can't you allow yourself to have a little fun, Rory? For me, Logan's Run was the best of its time!

Sometimes I don't consider watching a bad movie, especially one as boring as LOGAN'S RUN, fun.  I didn't like it when it first came out and I still don't -- though I do have it on DVD, but only as a record of a Jerry Goldsmith scored film.

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.html.htmlIn a message dated 7/22/06 2:26:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mithril1960@... writes:

I think that after seeing his overblown King Kong,  I wouldn't want to see Peter Jackson do an Apes film.

Yeah, I really can't see were this notion comes from that Peter Jackson is some kind of excellent filmmaker.  Other than his LOTR movies, which so many loved, but I thought were repetative and too often sappy and silly, most of Jackson's films are near-schlock.

And, I think with KING KONG he's really shot himself in the foot.  Unbelievably, an even longer version of it is coming to DVD.  For me, this just goes to show that what we're in now in the history of film is an era of the "Ego Auteur," filmmakers that aren't really that good, but make crap that makes so much money they believe, or allow the delusion to exist, that money equals quality.  It doesn't.

We APES fans should now this well enough.  Burton's POTA made $350 million world wide, but it's still garbage.

Also, look at Spielberg's WAR OF THE WORLDS.  Big money maker, a blockbuster.  A great movie, right?  WRONG!

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 7/22/06 11:36:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, drhasslein@... writes:

Didn't J.Lee Thompson state he thought the new ending was the correct
ending in Behind POTA? I prefer the new ending as well, it shows that
Caesar was superior to those in power, rather than just angry and
vengeful.

I don't recall what Thompson said, but I that if he did say that, he was right and you understand why.

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In a message dated 7/23/2006 3:35:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

Aren't they redoing I Am Legend with Will Smith?

Yes, but at least they are keeping the Vampires, vampires. If you have Omega on DVD, there's a cool little documentary explaining why they went mutant instead of Vampire. It's one of my favorite films and always will be. I love my Heston Triumvurate, Planet, Omega and Soylent. I'll always be a Charlton fan.




The last I read, the Will Smith/Legend project was dead.

Anyway, I recently rented the original Vincent Price adaptation THE LAST MAN ON EARTH.  Not a good movie, but closer to the novel.  I don't know why the Heston version couldn't have left the plague victims as vampires.  Once again, the Corringtons ruined a good concept.  What hacks they were.

By the way, I don't think SOYLENT GREEN is that good a movie either.  And that was when you really started to notice Chuck's rug too.  He was a little too old for the part really.  I also didn't think the book it was based on, MAKE ROOM, MAKE ROOM, was that good either.  It certainly hasn't come true!

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In a message dated 7/23/2006 6:35:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

Aren't they redoing I Am Legend with Will Smith?

Yes...I saw them setting up a scene at the Union Square Farmer's market a few months ago...all the fruit/vegetable stands were strung with garlic for sale!
Bruce





OK, I guess I'm wrong -- they are going to make this.  I just checked on IMDb.com and it's in pre-production.  I see that the guy who made CONSTANTINE is going to direct.

Sory folks, but I have to say this....

IT WILL SUCK!!!!

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In a message dated 7/23/2006 10:16:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Aren't they redoing I Am Legend with Will Smith?

Yes...I saw them setting up a scene at the Union Square Farmer's market a few months ago...all the fruit/vegetable stands were strung with garlic for sale!
Bruce





OK, I guess I'm wrong -- they are going to make this.  I just checked on IMDb.com and it's in pre-production.  I see that the guy who made CONSTANTINE is going to direct.

Sory folks, but I have to say this....

IT WILL SUCK!!!!

-- Rory

Why do they keep putting Will Smith in sci-fi films? He was the weakest part of ID4 and I, Robot was AWFUL!

Bruce

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.html.htmlIn a message dated 7/23/06 10:22:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, stenosaurus@... writes:

Why do they keep putting Will Smith in sci-fi films? He was the weakest part of ID4 and I, Robot was AWFUL!
Bruce

It's the simple philosophy of Hollywood....

Will Smith stars in one movie that makes money....

Hollywood execs figure, "Oh, people like seeing him in this.  What can we do that's kind of the same thing?"

Will Smith stars in another movie that makes money....

Hollywood execs figure, "Wow!  People really like seeing him in things like this.  Let's make more!"

Will Smith makes more.

It's not until he does a Sci-Fi film that completely bombs that the trend will end.  Only then will the Hollywood execs figure, "OK, that's dead with the public."  Until then, they know nothing except what made money before.  It's all about chasing the buck.  Art has nothing to do with it.  That's what happened with APES and that's why it died when it stopped making money, big money.  If BATTLE had somehow grossed twice what CONQUEST had made, there probably would have been a sixth APES film.

POTA 2001 made a lot of money, but it really didn't make as much profit as Fox had hoped and this is the real reason we've not seen another new APES movie.  The studio, I'm sure, simply doesn't believe that another APES film would be worth the investment.  Of course, if Will Smith went to Fox and said I want to do "APES II" it probably would happen.

In fact, I can see it now... Will Smith as MacDonald in a remake of CONQUEST!

Awful, ain't it?

-- Rory<.html <.html

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----- Original Message -----

From: Mithril1960@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:13 AM

Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: I prefer not to answer this.

In a message dated 7/23/2006 3:35:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

Aren't they redoing I Am Legend with Will Smith?

Yes, but at least they are keeping the Vampires, vampires. If you have Omega on DVD, there's a cool little documentary explaining why they went mutant instead of Vampire. It's one of my favorite films and always will be. I love my Heston Triumvurate, Planet, Omega and Soylent. I'll always be a Charlton fan.

 

 

"People shouldn't fear their governments. Governments should fear their people."
V; V for Vendetta.

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----- Original Message -----

From: veetus@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 11:30 AM

Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: I prefer not to watch Will Smith.

   Yeah, Will Smith doing "I Am Legend". I don't like Will in sci-fi, he brings baggage to it that I don't think works (except "Men in Black", which was really a comedy). I think Ridley Scott was going to do "I Am Legend" a few years back. That would've been cool. - - - Jeff

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mithril1960@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:13 AM

Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: I prefer not to answer this.

In a message dated 7/23/2006 3:35:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

Aren't they redoing I Am Legend with Will Smith?

Yes, but at least they are keeping the Vampires, vampires. If you have Omega on DVD, there's a cool little documentary explaining why they went mutant instead of Vampire. It's one of my favorite films and always will be. I love my Heston Triumvurate, Planet, Omega and Soylent. I'll always be a Charlton fan.

 

 

"People shouldn't fear their governments. Governments should fear their people."
V; V for Vendetta.

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In a message dated 7/23/2006 12:30:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

In a message dated 7/23/06 10:22:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, stenosaurus@... writes:

Why do they keep putting Will Smith in sci-fi films? He was the weakest part of ID4 and I, Robot was AWFUL!
Bruce

It's the simple philosophy of Hollywood....

Will Smith stars in one movie that makes money....

Hollywood execs figure, "Oh, people like seeing him in this.  What can we do that's kind of the same thing?"

Will Smith stars in another movie that makes money....

Hollywood execs figure, "Wow!  People really like seeing him in things like this.  Let's make more!"

Will Smith makes more.

It's not until he does a Sci-Fi film that completely bombs that the trend will end.  Only then will the Hollywood execs figure, "OK, that's dead with the public."  Until then, they know nothing except what made money before.  It's all about chasing the buck.  Art has nothing to do with it.  That's what happened with APES and that's why it died when it stopped making money, big money.  If BATTLE had somehow grossed twice what CONQUEST had made, there probably would have been a sixth APES film.

POTA 2001 made a lot of money, but it really didn't make as much profit as Fox had hoped and this is the real reason we've not seen another new APES movie.  The studio, I'm sure, simply doesn't believe that another APES film would be worth the investment.  Of course, if Will Smith went to Fox and said I want to do "APES II" it probably would happen.

In fact, I can see it now... Will Smith as MacDonald in a remake of CONQUEST!

Awful, ain't it?

-- Rory

It was a rhetorical question, but...damned good answer Rory!

Bruce

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 6:53 AM

Subject: [POTA] Re: Planet of the Apes sequel ...

In a message dated 7/22/06 2:26:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mithril1960@... writes:

I think that after seeing his overblown King Kong,  I wouldn't want to see Peter Jackson do an Apes film.

Yeah, I really can't see were this notion comes from that Peter Jackson is some kind of excellent filmmaker.  Other than his LOTR movies, which so many loved, but I thought were repetative and too often sappy and silly, most of Jackson's films are near-schlock.

And, I think with KING KONG he's really shot himself in the foot.  Unbelievably, an even longer version of it is coming to DVD.  For me, this just goes to show that what we're in now in the history of film is an era of the "Ego Auteur," filmmakers that aren't really that good, but make crap that makes so much money they believe, or allow the delusion to exist, that money equals quality.  It doesn't.

We APES fans should now this well enough.  Burton's POTA made $350 million world wide, but it's still garbage.

Also, look at Spielberg's WAR OF THE WORLDS.  Big money maker, a blockbuster.  A great movie, right?  WRONG!

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: drhasslein

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:35 PM

Subject: [POTA] Re: I prefer not to answer this.

Didn't J.Lee Thompson state he thought the new ending was the correct
ending in Behind POTA? I prefer the new ending as well, it shows that
Caesar was superior to those in power, rather than just angry and
vengeful.

I love the Conquest transfer, they framed it correctly, they really
got it right. After speaking with Fox Home Video reps back in the
laserdisc days, I thought the day would never come....

>
> One thing that does rock is the new anamorphic DVD of CONQUEST. I
finally
> watched the entire thing last night and what a pleasure it was to
see how
> visually striking the photography is. It's only too bad that the
ending was
> altered. It's not that I think the change was bad, it's just too
bad they couldn't
> have re-shot it properly.
>
> I came away from CONQUEST this time thinking the movie is really
about the
> stupidity of cruelty, especially to animals. As such, I don't
think the
> original ending was the right message to leave off with. Kind of
made the rest of
> the movie pointless. Anybody else thought about this?
>
> -- Rory
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: stenosaurus@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 7:22 AM

Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: I prefer not to answer this.

In a message dated 7/23/2006 10:16:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Aren't they redoing I Am Legend with Will Smith?

Yes...I saw them setting up a scene at the Union Square Farmer's market a few months ago...all the fruit/vegetable stands were strung with garlic for sale!
Bruce





OK, I guess I'm wrong -- they are going to make this.  I just checked on IMDb.com and it's in pre-production.  I see that the guy who made CONSTANTINE is going to direct.

Sory folks, but I have to say this....

IT WILL SUCK!!!!

-- Rory

Why do they keep putting Will Smith in sci-fi films? He was the weakest part of ID4 and I, Robot was AWFUL!

Bruce

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In a message dated 7/23/2006 8:49:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

Logan's Run was the best of its time!

 

No, not really.  It's pretty cheesy.

It was kind of lame, even back then.

I still liked it though.  I saw it more than once.

Some bad movies are more fun to watch than good ones

 

 

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In a message dated 7/23/2006 9:22:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, stenosaurus@... writes:

Why do they keep putting Will Smith in sci-fi films?

 

I has gots ta stop makin' another one of dees!

 

 

 

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In a message dated 7/23/2006 1:32:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

   Come to think of it, Heston was a smarty pants in "Omega Man" and is often credited with starting the flippant hero trend in action movies

 

Surely that honor goes to Sean "James Bond" Connery.

He was doing his little quips long before The Omega Man.

 

 

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In a message dated 7/23/2006 1:42:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

These blockbusters are really going crazy with running times and dilute the movie. "Superman", "Pirates" are both over 2 1/2 hours and the movies are the worse for it.

 

Yeah, I have been a bit disappointed with these

Summer movies that start well enough but get

lost in themselves, with all the best scenes

ending up in the trailer.  And whenever a

director gets a hit they are usually given

a free hand on their next film.  Look at

James Cameron.  After Titanic they

let him do a remake Solaris.  And

not coincidentally nothing since.

 

 

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As promised, we are happy to offer a set of Graham Hill's POTA Trading Cards to one lucky member. These cards were designed by Graham & Greg P. and have been available on Hunter's Website: https://pota.goatley.com/

Only a limited number of sets were printed and thanks to our friends at Simian Scrolls we can offer them as a prize.

Now listen up, here how you can win.

There are 9 cards in the set and 9 corresponding Easter Eggs have been hidden in the Group's Website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm. Each Egg links to a specific card. Search the Group Website for the Eggs (some are big, some are small). When you've found all 9, click the banner on the Group's Yahoo Home Page for the entry form.

Fill in the locations of each of the cards. For example:

• Card: Lisa
• Section: One Sheets
• Page: Battle
• Hotspot: Poster

The first person to find all 9, wins a set of cards. It is that easy.

Good Luck!

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In a message dated 7/23/2006 9:54:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

Also, look at Spielberg's WAR OF THE WORLDS.  Big money maker, a blockbuster.  A great movie, right?  WRONG!

 

 

War of the Worlds (2005) was such a piece of shit, I'll never sit through it again. OK, Tom Cruises kid survives an ENTIRE ARMY BRIGADE GETTING WIPED OUT. Boston (which was really Brooklyn) doesn't get touched at all, and his wife looks like she's making brunch at the end. The goddamn aliens have the ability to hide thier stupid machines for a million years and come here on a lighting transporter beam, yet they dont' check the environment? Oh don't make me go on! The original was SO MUCH BETTER it's not EVEN FUNNY.

Someone should punch Spielberg in the face for this and A.I. And his protege, Shymalan should never be allowed behind a damn camera again!

 

 

"People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people."
V For Vendetta.

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.html.htmlIn a message dated 7/23/06 2:49:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

I don't remember Thompson ever saying he preferred the new ending of "Conquest". My impression is it was forced on him. He wanted "Conquest" to be dark. I think it's more believable that he becomes more sympathetic to humans in "Battle", but it's too quick of a shift in "Conquest". Maybe if they could've shot a scene of the next day or something, where he has time to calm down. Maybe not even then.  I think it would take time. The apes suffered a lot and Caesar isn't going to forgive that easily. - - - Jeff

I was thinking about it again today, and Caesar's final speech in the re-edited version is a bit silly.  Who is he supposed to be talking to other than the apes in front of him?  But, are they supposed to understand all his words and what they mean?  Aren't they supposed to be kind of dumb?

As I said, it should have been re-shot -- and rescripted -- properly.

The original ending though is definitely a downer that doesn't make you feel to good about either apes or humans.

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In a message dated 7/23/2006 5:55:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

The original ending though is definitely a downer that doesn't make you feel to good about either apes or humans.

 

Then again, the ending of the original doesn't either.

 

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Netflix describes POTA thusly: "Charlton Heston stars in one of the
'60s' most beloved camp classics."

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Reminder from the Calendar of pota Linda Harrison's Birthday Monday July 24, 2006 All Day This event repeats every year.

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You rented it? It's a $.99 dvd at the 99 cent store or dollar tree,
albeit a laserdisc transfer.

Also I agree with you on Peter Jackson, I thought the Lord of the Rings
was an overblown bore.

As far as who I would want attached, I can't think of a current
director who would be right for it.... I guess if I had to choose, I
would give Rory the job.


-

>
> Anyway, I recently rented the original Vincent Price adaptation THE

LAST MAN

> ON EARTH. Not a good movie, but closer to the novel.

>
> -- Rory
>

--- Kassidy Rae <valwp@...> wrote:

> A vew years ago Dave Ballard wrote an extraordinary
> fan fiction about
> the POTA tv series called "Values," which eventually
> ended up being
> produced as a non-profit audio drama with art by
> Neil Foster. Cds were
> exchanged for donations to a 9/11 charity. Now it's
> available at my
> site in 7 parts

Thanks for this! I've been really impressed with the
quality of the websites you guys have. I particularly
love all the artwork and posters, as well as all the
info. I shall enjoy listening to this!

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Happy Birthday to Linda. Today's Home Page pic and sound clip are in
her honor.

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-----Original Message-----
From: goathunter@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 11:27 PM
Subject: [POTA] Camp?

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AOL has Burton's Apes as one of the Worst Twist Endings

Of All Time.  What gets me is they didn't list the original

ending as one of the Best!  That's the Worst Snub since

The Emmy's failed to nominate Hugh Laurie's performance

As Dr. Greg House M.D. while at the same time nominating

House -- the very series with him in the title role.  That can

mean only one thing.  They want to give an Emmy to that

hack Martin Sheen, who isn't fit to shine Laurie's shoes.

 

T

 

 

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> That's the Worst Snub since
> The Emmy's failed to nominate Hugh Laurie's performance
> As Dr. Greg House M.D. while at the same time nominating
> House -- the very series with him in the title role.

I agree! An awesome actor in an awesome show.

I've long been a Hugh Laurie fan. "Jeeves and Wooster" is classic.
The first two seasons of "A Bit of Fry & Laurie" hit DVD in the U.S.
next month.

Hunter

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In a message dated 7/24/2006 11:12:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, goathunter@... writes:

I agree! An awesome actor in an awesome show.

I've long been a Hugh Laurie fan. "Jeeves and Wooster" is classic.
The first two seasons of "A Bit of Fry & Laurie" hit DVD in the U.S.
next month.

Hunter

 

He's the only actor to fool me without makeup.

Joel Grey fooled me, but he was made up as a Korean.

Hugh Laurie did with just some beard stubble and a trick

with his voice.  Now that's acting!  Though I didn't know at

the time he was in House.  I knew Grey was in Remo Williams

and didn't know I'd been looking at him during the entire movie

until the closing credits.  Looking back I can't believe I missed

him.  On the other hand I can't believe I watched two episodes

of HOUSE and did know it was Hugh Laurie until his name was

mentioned on a Entertainment Magazine show -- especially after

all the years I'd enjoyed his work in Black Adder, making his first

appearance as a Master Of Disguise. Who knew he really was one?

 

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In a message dated 7/24/2006 4:26:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, drhasslein@... writes:

I can't think of a current
director who would be right for it....

 

Me either.

If I had to choose one, I guess it'd be Bryan Singer.

I'm not a big fan of X Men, and I though the new Superman

ran out of steam towards the end.  But he did do The Usual

Suspects as well as Producer for HOUSE MD.  Though it's

creator David Shore who directs it.  Maybe he'd be better.

 

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> He's the only actor to fool me without makeup.
> Joel Grey fooled me, but he was made up as a Korean.
> Hugh Laurie did with just some beard stubble and a trick
> with his voice. Now that's acting!

Yep!

> especially after
> all the years I'd enjoyed his work in Black Adder, making his first
> appearance as a Master Of Disguise. Who knew he really was one?

8-)

Gary Oldman has tricked me a few times, especially when he played a
dwarf in "Tiptoes."

Hunter

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In a message dated 7/23/2006 11:28:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, goathunter@... writes:

Netflix describes POTA thusly: "Charlton Heston stars in one of the
'60s' most beloved camp classics."

Netflix can drop dead. They've just lost any chance of me subscribing ever.

 

 

"People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people."
V For Vendetta.

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In a message dated 7/24/2006 2:20:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, goathunter@... writes:

Gary Oldman has tricked me a few times, especially when he played a
dwarf in "Tiptoes."

 

Wow!  Haven't seen that one.

I'll have to check it out.

 

 

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>> Gary Oldman has tricked me a few times, especially when he played a
>> dwarf in "Tiptoes."

> Wow! Haven't seen that one.
> I'll have to check it out.

It's a very strange movie....

I have a friend that use to work on that show. He said Rose was the
biggest jerk he ever met.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Charlie Rose talks too much!
>

I think you make a good point, Rory. The first part of Conquest has an
anti-cruelty, anti-racism theme. The altered ending is more in line
with that theme than the original ending.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> I came away from CONQUEST this time thinking the movie is really
about the
> stupidity of cruelty, especially to animals. As such, I don't think
the
> original ending was the right message to leave off with. Kind of
made the rest of
> the movie pointless. Anybody else thought about this?
>
> -- Rory
>

I thought they did a great job on all the new transfers. My only
complaint is that the above ground parts of Beneath look a bit light.
Almost if they calibrated the brightness & contrast so the underground
sequences weren't too dark.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
>
> I love the Conquest transfer, they framed it correctly, they really
> got it right. After speaking with Fox Home Video reps back in the
> laserdisc days, I thought the day would never come....
>
>

I always thought Spike Lee would be an interesting choice for a POTA
film. My only concern would be that he can sometimes be a bit heavy-
handed on the 'message' of the film.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@... wrote:
>
>
> I think that after seeing his overblown King Kong, I wouldn't want
to see
> Peter Jackson do an Apes film.
>

It's funny. In the '50s and early '60s Heston was a well respected
serious actor. Thanks to films like Soylent Green, The Omega Man and
those disaster film, he became a camp icon.
What I can't understand is how Heston thought doing POTA sequels was
beneath him (no pun intended) but doing stuff like The Omega Man &
Airport wasn't.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> I love the Omega man! Charlton Heston is so over the top in this one
it's
> great fun to watch. Ditto for Soylent Green.
> Bruce
>

Denzel Washington would be a much better choice.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In fact, I can see it now... Will Smith as MacDonald in a remake of
CONQUEST!
>
> Awful, ain't it?
>
> -- Rory
>

It seemed to me that the other apes understood him. They react as if
they do.
Plus, the indication is that they are on the verge of talking as
Lisa is when she says no.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> I was thinking about it again today, and Caesar's final speech in
the
> re-edited version is a bit silly. Who is he supposed to be
talking to other than the
> apes in front of him? But, are they supposed to understand all
his words and
> what they mean? Aren't they supposed to be kind of dumb?
>
> As I said, it should have been re-shot -- and rescripted --
properly.
>
> The original ending though is definitely a downer that doesn't
make you feel
> to good about either apes or humans.
>
> -- Rory
>

Do you have a link? I'd love to read the lists.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> AOL has Burton's Apes as one of the Worst Twist Endings
> Of All Time. What gets me is they didn't list the original
> ending as one of the Best! That's the Worst Snub since
> The Emmy's failed to nominate Hugh Laurie's performance
> As Dr. Greg House M.D. while at the same time nominating
> House -- the very series with him in the title role. That can
> mean only one thing. They want to give an Emmy to that
> hack Martin Sheen, who isn't fit to shine Laurie's shoes.
>
> T
>

.html.htmlIn a message dated 7/24/06 5:26:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, drhasslein@... writes:

You rented it? It's a $.99 dvd at the 99 cent store or dollar tree,
albeit a laserdisc transfer.

The DVD I rented from Netflix of THE LAST MAN ON EARTH is a new MGM double feature one with PANIC IN THE YEAR ZERO.  They're letterboxed and anamorphic, and the print of LAST MAN was pristine.  The best I've ever seen it.

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 7/24/06 7:55:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

I have a friend that use to work on that show. He said Rose was the
biggest jerk he ever met.

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.html.htmlIn a message dated 7/24/06 12:13:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, goathunter@... writes:

I've long been a Hugh Laurie fan. "Jeeves and Wooster" is classic.
The first two seasons of "A Bit of Fry & Laurie" hit DVD in the U.S.
next month.

Hunter

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.html.htmlIn a message dated 7/24/06 7:57:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

I thought they did a great job on all the new transfers. My only
complaint is that the above ground parts of Beneath look a bit light.
Almost if they calibrated the brightness & contrast so the underground
sequences weren't too dark.

Yeah, there's something definitely wrong with the BENEATH transfer.  They're going to need to fix it before these movies go to HD, in fact PLANET has a few problems that are now bugging me.

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 7/24/06 7:58:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

It's funny. In the '50s and early '60s Heston was a well respected
serious actor. Thanks to films like Soylent Green, The Omega Man and
those disaster film, he became a camp icon.
What I can't understand is how Heston thought doing POTA sequels was
beneath him (no pun intended) but doing stuff like The Omega Man &
Airport wasn't.

Heston made some bad choices after PLANET (anyone here remember NUMBER ONE?) and he also failed to realized as he got older he just wasn't Ben-Hur anymore.  Films like AIRPORT '75 and EARTHQUAKE and even MIDWAY are bad movies.  Heston should have slid into character roles and stopped trying to be, as Roddy McDowall called him, "Charlie Hero."  When he did do character parts, such as in the two Dick Lester MUSKETEER movies, he was very good.

-- Rory

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In a message dated 7/24/2006 8:18:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

Don't forget he was also in BLACK ADDAR.

 

I checked House Trivia.  One of the shows he watches

with the sound off is Black Adder.  It's full of inside jokes

like that.  Especially Sherlock Homes ones.  Holmes --

House?  He lives at 221 B?  Dr. Watson / Dr. Wilson?

Even the Vicodin he pops.  Vicodin is made by Watson

Pharmaceuticals.  It goes on like that, layer after layer.

I love stories that work on a lots of different levels.

 

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In a message dated 7/24/2006 6:56:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

I think you make a good point, Rory. The first part of Conquest has an
anti-cruelty, anti-racism theme. The altered ending is more in line
with that theme than the original ending.

 

It would have been more in keeping with the rest of the series though.

I guess they felt if the apes stayed as cruel as the humans they

emulated it would have been a bit "one note".  If no one ever

learns a lesson or changes it kid of goes nowhere.  Though

it would have been more true to life.  Those who fail to

learn from history...etc...  More powerful ending though.

 

 

 

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In a message dated 7/24/2006 7:08:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Do you have a link? I'd love to read the lists.

 

Nah, those things rotate about every 6 to 8 hours.

I could have saved it, if you'd have said something

yesterday.  I don't even know where to look, cause

I just looked.  Nothing.  But as you can imagine...

It was like Best - Usual Suspects.  Worst -  The

Village.  Best - Citizen Cane.  Worst - Burton's POTA.

There were 17 of them.  It wasn't even a list.  It was

a slide show, with a still and a blurb why it sucked, or not.

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I didn't love the BENEATH transfer either, for the same reasons
stated. Alright, end the suspense, what problems do you have with the
PLANET transfer?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> >
> >
>
> Yeah, there's something definitely wrong with the BENEATH
transfer. They're
> going to need to fix it before these movies go to HD, in fact
PLANET has a few
> problems that are now bugging me.
>
> -- Rory
>

> I checked House Trivia. One of the shows he watches
> with the sound off is Black Adder.

I noticed that one.

> It's full of inside jokes
> like that. Especially Sherlock Homes ones. Holmes --
> House? He lives at 221 B?

That one also leaped out at me, though I didn't know the others. And
yes, that is part of what makes the show so much fun.

Hunter

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----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 9:44 PM

Subject: Re: [POTA] Conquest Ending

In a message dated 7/24/2006 6:56:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

I think you make a good point, Rory. The first part of Conquest has an
anti-cruelty, anti-racism theme. The altered ending is more in line
with that theme than the original ending.

 

It would have been more in keeping with the rest of the series though.

I guess they felt if the apes stayed as cruel as the humans they

emulated it would have been a bit "one note".  If no one ever

learns a lesson or changes it kid of goes nowhere.  Though

it would have been more true to life.  Those who fail to

learn from history...etc...  More powerful ending though.

 

 

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: James

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 4:48 PM

Subject: [POTA] Heston

It's funny. In the '50s and early '60s Heston was a well respected
serious actor. Thanks to films like Soylent Green, The Omega Man and
those disaster film, he became a camp icon.
What I can't understand is how Heston thought doing POTA sequels was
beneath him (no pun intended) but doing stuff like The Omega Man &
Airport wasn't.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
>
> I love the Omega man! Charlton Heston is so over the top in this one
it's
> great fun to watch. Ditto for Soylent Green.
> Bruce
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:24 PM

Subject: [POTA] Re: Heston

In a message dated 7/24/06 7:58:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

It's funny. In the '50s and early '60s Heston was a well respected
serious actor. Thanks to films like Soylent Green, The Omega Man and
those disaster film, he became a camp icon.
What I can't understand is how Heston thought doing POTA sequels was
beneath him (no pun intended) but doing stuff like The Omega Man &
Airport wasn't.

Heston made some bad choices after PLANET (anyone here remember NUMBER ONE?) and he also failed to realized as he got older he just wasn't Ben-Hur anymore.  Films like AIRPORT '75 and EARTHQUAKE and even MIDWAY are bad movies.  Heston should have slid into character roles and stopped trying to be, as Roddy McDowall called him, "Charlie Hero."  When he did do character parts, such as in the two Dick Lester MUSKETEER movies, he was very good.

-- Rory

-- Rory

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In a message dated 7/24/2006 5:07:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

It seemed to me that the other apes understood him. They react as if
they do.
Plus, the indication is that they are on the verge of talking as
Lisa is when she says no.

"AN EMPEROR APE MIGHT DO SLIGHTLY BETTER?"

 

 

"People shouldn't fear their governments. Governments should fear their people."
V; V for Vendetta.

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In a message dated 7/24/2006 6:08:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

The DVD I rented from Netflix of THE LAST MAN ON EARTH is a new MGM double feature one with PANIC IN THE YEAR ZERO.  They're letterboxed and anamorphic, and the print of LAST MAN was pristine.  The best I've ever seen it.

Hmph. I got Last Man (which I love) in anamorphic letterbox for 5.99 at Barnes and Nobles two years ago. I grabbed it instantly since I thought they had mislabeled it.

 

 

"People shouldn't fear their governments. Governments should fear their people."
V; V for Vendetta.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

> Once again,
> the Corringtons ruined a good concept. What hacks they were.

I've just re-watched the uncut Roddy interview on the 'Behind' special
edition. There's a wonderful moment when, discussing writer, Paul
Dehn, Roddy recalls that maybe he didn't write 'Battle'.

"John & Joyce Corrington' the interviewer prompts.

Cue puzzled look from Roddy, 'Who?' he asks.

Dave B

The voice over on the Beneath trailer ('Can a planet long endure, half
ape and half human') Is that Lee Van Cleef?

Dave

.html.htmlIn a message dated 7/25/06 1:32:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, drhasslein@... writes:

I didn't love the BENEATH transfer either, for the same reasons
stated. Alright, end the suspense, what problems do you have with the
PLANET transfer?

Well, two big figure prints on a couple frames for one.  Maybe James can capture them if I tell him where they are?

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 7/25/06 10:38:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

You don't get the big bucks for character parts. Though the big bucks back then wasn't like the big bucks now. - - - Jeff

Did Heston still need the "big bucks" once he hit 50?!!!!

-- Rory<.html <.html

May I ask what is bugging you about the Planet transfer?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, there's something definitely wrong with the BENEATH transfer.
They're
> going to need to fix it before these movies go to HD, in fact PLANET
has a few
> problems that are now bugging me.
>
> -- Rory
>

I always thought is was a shame that Heston didn't stick with the
POTA films. Of course after Beneath there would have been a problem
bringing him back. It would have had to been a twin brother or son.

Here's a thought, instead of Gov. Breck in Conquest; Gov. Taylor.
Would have been an interesting role reversal from the first film.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> Heston made some bad choices after PLANET (anyone here remember
NUMBER ONE?)
> and he also failed to realized as he got older he just wasn't Ben-
Hur anymore.
> Films like AIRPORT '75 and EARTHQUAKE and even MIDWAY are bad
movies.
> Heston should have slid into character roles and stopped trying to
be, as Roddy
> McDowall called him, "Charlie Hero." When he did do character
parts, such as in
> the two Dick Lester MUSKETEER movies, he was very good.
>
> -- Rory
>
> -- Rory
>

I wouldn't say defending. More like understanding it better.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Am I in an alternate reality? I never thought I'd see the day when
people would defend the tacked on ending of "Conquest". - - - Jeff
>

Very good Rob!!!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@... wrote:
>
>
> "AN EMPEROR APE MIGHT DO SLIGHTLY BETTER?"
>

Personally, I've always ranked Psycho & POTA as the 2 greatest twist
endings of all time.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Nah, those things rotate about every 6 to 8 hours.
> I could have saved it, if you'd have said something
> yesterday. I don't even know where to look, cause
> I just looked. Nothing. But as you can imagine...
> It was like Best - Usual Suspects. Worst - The
> Village. Best - Citizen Cane. Worst - Burton's POTA.
> There were 17 of them. It wasn't even a list. It was
> a slide show, with a still and a blurb why it sucked, or not.
>

That was before Godfather II made sequels respectable.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Because they weren't sequels. That's like the "Aaandy Hardy
series". - - - Jeff

Remember the Corringtons were only hired because Dehn was ill. As soon
as he was well enough they were fired and Dehn was brought back in to
do the final rewrite.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
>
> > Once again,
> > the Corringtons ruined a good concept. What hacks they were.
>
> I've just re-watched the uncut Roddy interview on the 'Behind' special
> edition. There's a wonderful moment when, discussing writer, Paul
> Dehn, Roddy recalls that maybe he didn't write 'Battle'.
>
> "John & Joyce Corrington' the interviewer prompts.
>
> Cue puzzled look from Roddy, 'Who?' he asks.
>
> Dave B
>

.html.htmlIn a message dated 7/25/06 8:29:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

I wouldn't say defending. More like understanding it better.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Am I in an alternate reality? I never thought I'd see the day when
people would defend the tacked on ending of "Conquest". - - - Jeff

You know, I can't now recall when I first found out it was a re-edited ending.  It sure worked when I first saw the movie.  I remember that when Roddy McDowall said, "Tonight... we have seen... the birth... of the planet of the apes!"  the hair on the back of my neck stood up.  It was great.

The original ending would have been disturbing, but it wouldn't have had that affect, I'll bet.

-- Rory<.html <.html

Sure. Just send me the time codes.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> Well, two big figure prints on a couple frames for one. Maybe James
can
> capture them if I tell him where they are?
>
> -- Rory
>

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Plus it was followed by Goldsmith's BA DA DA DA DUM DUM!!!!!

I LOVED the ending, but even on the first viewing as a child I thought
something was peculiar about the tone in Roddy's voice not matching,
and the way it was edited, only as I got older realizing that it was
tampered with in post.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
It sure worked when I first saw the movie. I remember that when Roddy
> McDowall said, "Tonight... we have seen... the birth... of the planet
of the
> apes!" the hair on the back of my neck stood up. It was great.
>
> The original ending would have been disturbing, but it wouldn't have
had that
> affect, I'll bet.
>
> -- Rory
>

Plus it was followed by Goldsmith's BA DA DA DA DUM DUM!!!!!

I LOVED the ending, but even on the first viewing as a child I thought
something was peculiar about the tone in Roddy's voice not matching,
and the way it was edited, only as I got older realizing that it was
tampered with in post.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
It sure worked when I first saw the movie. I remember that when Roddy
> McDowall said, "Tonight... we have seen... the birth... of the planet
of the
> apes!" the hair on the back of my neck stood up. It was great.
>
> The original ending would have been disturbing, but it wouldn't have
had that
> affect, I'll bet.
>
> -- Rory
>

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In a message dated 7/25/2006 11:56:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, drhasslein@... writes:

even on the first viewing as a child I thought
something was peculiar about the tone in Roddy's voice not matching,
and the way it was edited, only as I got older realizing that it was
tampered with in post.

 

Yeah, it was obvious. No one does a Sergio

(extreme close up showing only the eyes)

while someone is still talking.  It's just not done.

You could tell it was a last ditch because an

over dub had to be done.  It wasn't until recently,

on this group, I found out about the original ending.

 

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In a message dated 7/25/2006 9:14:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

  Am I in an alternate reality? I never thought I'd see the day when people would defend the tacked on ending of "Conquest". - - - Jeff

 

Not me.  I think the original ending, though possibly "one note"

is more faithful to the original pessimistic endings of the previous films.

 

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In the Mego ads for the gorilla on horseback, the gorilla has a light
brown, slatted effect tunic, not the brown leather effect tunic all the
rest have.Anybody know if this was ever actually sold or has anybody
ever seen one--it looks cool! John, Scrolls.

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In a message dated 7/23/2006 10:29:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, goathunter@... writes:

Netflix describes POTA thusly: "Charlton Heston stars in one of the
'60s' most beloved camp classics."

 

There's lot of genre of "Camp".

 

 

Are they talking about it being camp like

Mel Brooks?  Or campy like Rocky Horror?

 

 

camp2    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (k mp) n. An affectation or appreciation of manners and tastes commonly thought to be artificial, vulgar, or banal. Banality, vulgarity, or artificiality when deliberately affected or when appreciated for its humor: "Camp is popularity plus vulgarity plus innocence" (Indra Jahalani). adj. Having deliberately artificial, vulgar, banal, or affectedly humorous qualities or style: played up the silliness of their roles for camp effect.

v. camped, camp·ing, camps
v. intr.

To act in a deliberately artificial, vulgar, or banal way.

v. tr.

To give a deliberately artificial, vulgar, or banal quality to: camped up their cowboy costumes with chaps, tin stars, and ten-gallon hats.

 

 

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Okay, so maybe P.J. was a bad choice. Is there another Rod Serling
out there? How about Ray Bradbury?
He could write the story but we still lack a director...
Does "Greenlight Productions" still exist? You know, that site
produced by Ben Affleck and Matt Damon...?
They allow a million dollar budget, but if there's enough backup
maybe there's something...
Anything goes in Hollywood...
How 'bout a collaboration on a 'blogsite?
Everybody throw their ideas out there and we ALL puzzle it
together....?
Just keep really good notes though.
No stealing...
There's got to be some really great ideas looming, don't you
think?
I mean, so far everyone has cast a thumbs down on these so-
called "Great" directors when all they are doing is following (pardon
the repetition) direction.

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In a message dated 7/26/2006 3:27:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, thadesdarlinghuman@... writes:

Does "Greenlight Productions" still exist? You know, that site
produced by Ben Affleck and Matt Damon...?

 

Yeah, Project Greenlight is still around, though what have they done really?

You'd probably have better lock with Kevin Spacey's Trigger Street Productions.

At least it's made a couple of movies, instead of a bunch of direct to cable junk.

 

 

 

 

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Wow, never even noticed this. The best Mego ad is the "Galen, grandson of Cornelius" ad.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> In the Mego ads for the gorilla on horseback, the gorilla has a light
> brown, slatted effect tunic, not the brown leather effect tunic all the
> rest have.Anybody know if this was ever actually sold or has anybody
> ever seen one--it looks cool! John, Scrolls.
>

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In a message dated 7/26/2006 4:19:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, urko3085@... writes:

How did they do this? They started reprinting the original film adaptation, but in smaller chunks than the first time around. For the sake of completeness I'm including these pages in the PDFs. There are going to be some new splash pages as we go along, so there is some new content.

I only wish that they'd had a better artist do the Planet of the Apes adaptation. George Tuska was totally wrong. The Artist for Beneath (Alfredo Alacala inked it, I beleive) did a much better job.

 

 

"People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people."
V For Vendetta.

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.html.htmlIn a message dated 7/25/06 8:49:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Sure. Just send me the time codes.

OK, I just checked it out now.  It doesn't look like fingerprints, but scratches.

First off, there's other stuff, all of it minor but annoying.  There's a hair or strand of dust fiber that appears during the main credits above the "Makeup by... Hairstyling... Orchestration" credits at 4 min., 15 sec.  It's always been there, probably in the original negs, but I wish they'd digitally remove it.

There's also a lot of flicker in the transfer, the worse one being during the trial when Zira says "He's unlike any man you have ever seen."  (1 Hour, 6 min. and 8 sec.) Watch the image flicker.

As for the scratches, the first one (and there may be more but I haven't checked every frame) is at 26 min. and 16 sec., just after Taylor runs between the two trees.  If you still step through that shot you'll see the scratches.  The second set of them appears at 43 min. and 54 sec. when Zira pinches Cornelius' nose.  I don't know why those scratches are there, but it would be nice if those film elements could be cleaned up.

Anyway, Fox still needs to do more work on PLANET.  I remember that an actual film restoration of the movie was being done to get an archival print and that a work print of it was shown at the Eastman House in Rochester, NY.  Hopefully when they do a Blu-ray DVD of PLANET a better print will be used.

-- Rory
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As Greg himself has generously pointed out there are only so many ways
to say 'thank you'. So rather than try and dress it up in something
new, thank you, Greg, Hunter, Mark and all those others who tirelessly
contribute to a fantastic site with very little fanfare.

I'm downloading 'Second family' right now, I can't wait to read it.

Dave

Hey Kass,

Have a good one, enjoy the breakfast in bed and all the attention that
will be lavished upon you.

Dave

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@...> wrote:

>

'' The best Mego ad is the "Galen, grandson of Cornelius" '--No, the
best ever Mego ad was for their 'Ballbuster' game, where you have to
flick balls on stalks to break everybody else's balls(I am NOT making
this up!).At the end, husband says to wife 'wow, you're a real ball
buster' and she turns to the camera with a knowing smile.Nothing funny
or rude about it it all. John, Scrolls.

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Kass, have a wonderful birthday and may God bless.   --Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 07/27/06 00:51:33 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: Birthday Reminder   Hey Kass, Have a good one, enjoy the breakfast in bed and all the attention that will be lavished upon you. Dave

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There is nothing campy about the original POTA. It's not like Landon
says, "Holy talking simians, Skipper!".

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
>
> There's lot of genre of "Camp".
>
>
> Are they talking about it being camp like
> Mel Brooks? Or campy like Rocky Horror?
>
>
> camp2
> (https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html
rd=2&u=http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/camp) ( P )
_Pronunciation Key_
> (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/ahd4/pronkey.html (kmp)
> n.
> 1. An affectation or appreciation of manners and tastes
commonly
> thought to be artificial, vulgar, or banal.
> 2. Banality, vulgarity, or artificiality when deliberately
affected or
> when appreciated for its humor: “Camp is popularity plus
vulgarity plus
> innocence” (Indra Jahalani).
>
> adj.
>
> Having deliberately artificial, vulgar, banal, or affectedly
humorous
> qualities or style: played up the silliness of their roles for
camp effect.
>
> v. camped, camp·ing, camps
> v. intr.
>
> To act in a deliberately artificial, vulgar, or banal way.
>
> v. tr.
>
> To give a deliberately artificial, vulgar, or banal quality to:
camped up
> their cowboy costumes with chaps, tin stars, and ten-gallon hats.
>

I've always been a fan of Spacey's, since his days on Wiseguy, but
seeing after Superman Returns; I'm convinced there is nothing he can't
do on the screen.
Now I wonder what kind of Ape would Spacey be best playing?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, Project Greenlight is still around, though what have they done
really?
> You'd probably have better lock with Kevin Spacey's Trigger Street
> Productions.
> At least it's made a couple of movies, instead of a bunch of direct
to cable
> junk.
>

I remember thinking that the fifth film would be called 'Birth of
the Planet of the Apes'. I was very surprised when it wasn't.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> Plus it was followed by Goldsmith's BA DA DA DA DUM DUM!!!!!
>
> I LOVED the ending, but even on the first viewing as a child I
thought
> something was peculiar about the tone in Roddy's voice not
matching,
> and the way it was edited, only as I got older realizing that it
was
> tampered with in post.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> It sure worked when I first saw the movie. I remember that when
Roddy
> > McDowall said, "Tonight... we have seen... the birth... of the
planet
> of the
> > apes!" the hair on the back of my neck stood up. It was great.
> >
> > The original ending would have been disturbing, but it wouldn't
have
> had that
> > affect, I'll bet.
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
>

I'll take a look for them tonight and post some screengrabs.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> OK, I just checked it out now. It doesn't look like fingerprints,
but
> scratches.
>
> First off, there's other stuff, all of it minor but annoying.
There's a hair
> or strand of dust fiber that appears during the main credits above
the
> "Makeup by... Hairstyling... Orchestration" credits at 4 min., 15
sec. It's always
> been there, probably in the original negs, but I wish they'd
digitally remove
> it.
>
> There's also a lot of flicker in the transfer, the worse one being
during the
> trial when Zira says "He's unlike any man you have ever seen." (1
Hour, 6
> min. and 8 sec.) Watch the image flicker.
>
> As for the scratches, the first one (and there may be more but I
haven't
> checked every frame) is at 26 min. and 16 sec., just after Taylor
runs between the
> two trees. If you still step through that shot you'll see the
scratches.
> The second set of them appears at 43 min. and 54 sec. when Zira
pinches
> Cornelius' nose. I don't know why those scratches are there, but
it would be nice if
> those film elements could be cleaned up.
>
> Anyway, Fox still needs to do more work on PLANET. I remember
that an actual
> film restoration of the movie was being done to get an archival
print and
> that a work print of it was shown at the Eastman House in
Rochester, NY.
> Hopefully when they do a Blu-ray DVD of PLANET a better print will
be used.
>
> -- Rory
>