--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@... wrote:

> In
> the end the blame for this fiasco has to fall on the Studio which

rushed

> things.

Amen on the "studio" rush... Like I said, the script was touched
too many times to make sense...

I really enjoy the Revolution series, but I agree, I think setting it
in San Diego was a mistake, and a bit self-indulgent.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@... wrote:
>
>
>
> In a message dated 7/30/2006 7:06:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> JamesA1102@... writes:
>
> Thank God for MR Comics and their Revolution series. They have
> really recaputred the magic of the original series.
>
>
>
> I disagree. They've gone off on a tangent of their own with the
Church Door
> bit and putting the Apes in San Diego. It's a fun series, way
better than the
> lame B/W one from years back (not the Marvel), but it could be
better.
>
>
> "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear
their
> people."
> V For Vendetta.
>

Ahh!. You have changed your background once again.
Dark seems to fit my deceptive character best...
I like a dismal background, anymore...
Yellow is like jaundice...
I do enjoy your rich text on the visuals, though...
Keep it dark...
It makes "species" wonder what you're up to..Heh, heh, heh... ;>

The reason it was set in San Diego is that Ty Templeton had always
thought Conquest took place in San Diego. It was his initial impression
from when he first saw the film. Also, he had not seen the Extended
version of Battle at the time.
I for one can't fault him for this, there is nothing in Conquest to
indicate where it takes place. It could be anywhere in the US. It is
only when viewing Conquest in relation to Battle (particularly the
Extended version) that it become apparent that both films take place in
on the East Coast.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> I really enjoy the Revolution series, but I agree, I think setting it
> in San Diego was a mistake, and a bit self-indulgent.
>
>

I disagree. I think MR Comics have done a remarkable job of being
modern and yet respectful to the source material.The stories are
challenging and dangerous, whereas much of the Adventure run was cozy
and safe.John, Scrolls.
''You can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead''.Stan
Laurel, 'Brats'.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Hunter Goatley

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 8:33 AM

Subject: Re: [POTA] I'm sorry...

> In
> the end the blame for this fiasco has to fall on the Studio which rushed
> things.

Frank Darabont (who directed THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION and THE GREEN
MILE) told me that he tried to tell the studio their script was awful
and what was wrong with it, but they weren't interested-- -they only
wanted to meet the release date they'd set.

Hunter

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> Hi Hunter, when did you talk to Frank Darabont?

Hi, Jeff. I last corresponded with Frank back in November 2005. (He
has written a script based on Robert McCammon's novel MINE; I run the
McCammon web site, and have corresponded with Frank periodically about
his script.)

> Yeah, he was one
> of the studio's choices to direct it but I guess Burton's name was
> bigger.

Frank told me they offered it to him, but the script was so bad, he
turned it down immediately. It was then that he tried to tell them
why, but they weren't interested. A week later, they hired Burton for
the job.

> Did he tell you any tidbits about Broyles' script that were
> changed when the two rewriters came aboard?

No, he didn't. He said the script he read was pretty much what Burton
shot.

Darabont's also an Ape

> fan, with a Mego collection. - - - Jeff

And an exact replica of the Lawgiver in his backyard....

Hunter

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In a message dated 7/31/2006 11:06:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

I think that is what most fans want. Something that captures the spirit
of the original. Not some quicky bubble gum movie.

If I were going to do a sequel it would take place between Battle and Planet. There's 2000 years to mess around with! How about Planet of the Apes: Fall of the Humans? Showing how they lost their power of speech and became animals. Perhaps the best Marvel story was Evolutions Nightmare, which would make a good film in itself.

 

 

"People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people."
V For Vendetta.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mithril1960@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: I'm sorry...

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 2:51 AM
Subject: [POTA] Re: I'm sorry...

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The immortal Frank Zappa said it best -- "We're Only in it For the
Money!"...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Frank told me they offered it to him, but the script was so bad, he
> turned it down immediately. It was then that he tried to tell them
> why, but they weren't interested.
>
> As anyone who wasn't a money grubbing hack would have!
>
> Hear this now and remember it later -- BURTON DID IT FOR THE
MONEY! THEY ALL DID IT FOR THE MONEY!
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
__________

There isn't? On page 229 of Joe Russo's 'Planet of the Apes Revisited' it states: "The aired series is set between Battle for the Planet of the Apes and the original Planet".

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> There is no "between BATTLE and PLANET,"

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In a message dated 8/1/2006 3:36:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Willowape@... writes:

Asking about Price

Yes, Burton's movies are too high priced.

They should be on sale in the Bargain Bin.

I know ... Vincent Price.  I'll have to try his

recipe for Dishwasher Fish someday.

 

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In a message dated 8/1/2006 4:18:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

"We've got to get back to the garden!"

 

 

We've got to get ourselves

back from the gaaaaarbaaaaage!!!

 

 

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In a message dated 8/1/2006 4:34:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

As anyone who wasn't a money grubbing hack would have! 

 

Hear this now and remember it later -- BURTON DID IT FOR THE MONEY!  THEY ALL DID IT FOR THE MONEY!

 

Yeah, but beyond $500k/yr., you can only get so much satisfaction

from making more money.  There ain't No Show without Business.

 

 

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I remember reading a quote from Rick Baker stating the original
Broyle's script was a piece of sh** in numerous publications.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi Hunter, when did you talk to Frank Darabont?
>
> Hi, Jeff. I last corresponded with Frank back in November 2005.
(He
> has written a script based on Robert McCammon's novel MINE; I run
the
> McCammon web site, and have corresponded with Frank periodically
about
> his script.)
>
> > Yeah, he was one
> > of the studio's choices to direct it but I guess Burton's name was
> > bigger.
>
> Frank told me they offered it to him, but the script was so bad, he
> turned it down immediately. It was then that he tried to tell them
> why, but they weren't interested. A week later, they hired Burton
for
> the job.
>
> > Did he tell you any tidbits about Broyles' script that were
> > changed when the two rewriters came aboard?
>
> No, he didn't. He said the script he read was pretty much what
Burton
> shot.
>
> Darabont's also an Ape
> > fan, with a Mego collection. - - - Jeff
>
> And an exact replica of the Lawgiver in his backyard....
>
> Hunter
>

I disagree. I think ignoring the sequels is a terrible idea... I know,
Rifkin, Cameron, many others agree with you, but however flawed, Ape
history is Ape history. Post Battle sequel is what I'd want. Maybe
there should be a new poll. Or has it been done already?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> There is no "between BATTLE and PLANET," God Damn It All To Hell!!!!
>
> If I were going to do a sequel, I do the ONLY thing that makes sense
and do a new sequel to PLANET, forgetting the bizarre world of Dehn.
>
> "We've got to get back to the garden!"
>
> -- Rory
>

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In a message dated 8/1/2006 9:16:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

The immortal Frank Zappa said it best -- "We're Only in it For the
Money!"...

 

If Zappa was only in it for the money

his music would have been more Pop

than Jazz.  It isn't exactly the most

accessible form of music out there.

But he was too good a musician

to sell out like that.  Who else

would play poker for three hours

in front of a crowd that paid to

hear him play?  The only one

with balls that big would have

to be King Buzzo.  When The

Melvins were heckled by a

headliner's fans he treated

them to a 20 minute gong

solo. Don't mess with Buzzo!

 

 

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In a message dated 8/2/2006 12:07:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, drhasslein@... writes:

I remember reading a quote from Rick Baker stating the original
Broyle's script was a piece of sh** in numerous publications.

 

Also, considering he wrote both of Burton's Batmans

I wonder why they didn't go with it?  Makes no sense.

Just the sort of thing I'd expect from Fox.  Nonsense!

 

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In a message dated 8/2/2006 12:07:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, drhasslein@... writes:

I remember reading a quote from Rick Baker stating the original
Broyle's script was a piece of sh** in numerous publications.

 

It wouldn't surprise me,

but how much worse could it have been?

I guess we'll never know.  But he seems to

specialize in writing for Tom Hanks.  Personally

I thought the Sam Hamm script had more of a

handle on the POTA feel the what they greenlit.

 

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Years ago, when I had hair, I used to work around the corner from the
BBC buildings and one lunchtime I literally walked into Frank Zappa.I'm
about 6ft 2, but he was enormous--made me feel like a dwarf.I only
really know of him because he's mentioned in Deep Purple's Smoke on the
Water, but he was a seriously big bloke--didn't look like a guy to be
messed with either.John, Scrolls.

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
pota group:

If another POTA film was to be made, which would you prefer?

o A whole new concept.
o A faithful adaption of Boulle's novel
o A sixth sequel to the orignal series taking place after Battle.
o A new sequel to Planet that ignores the original sequels.
o A sequel to the 2001 remake.
o A big screen version of the TV series with Matt Damon & Ben Affleck as Virdon & Burke.


To vote, please visit the following web page:
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Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
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In a message dated 8/2/2006 10:19:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john@... writes:

I only really know of him because he's mentioned in Deep Purple's Smoke on the Water

 

I don't have any of his albums, but I'm familiar with his work.

He often sings about sex and drugs in songs like as Dynamo Hum,

and Montana, though often thinly veiled as dental floss and such.

 

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In a message dated 8/2/2006 10:19:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john@... writes:

Frank Zappa

 

Here's a sample of the lyrics from Zappa's Montana. . . .

 

 

I might be movin' to Montana soon
Just to raise me up a crop of
Dental Floss

Raisin' it up
Waxen it down
In a little white box
I can sell uptown

I'm gonna find me a horse
Just about this big
An' ride him all along the border line

With a
Pair of heavy-duty
Zircon-encrusted tweezers in my hand
Every other wrangler would say
I was mighty grand

By myself I wouldn't
Have no boss
But I'd be raisin' my lonely
Dental Floss

Well I might
Ride along the border
With my tweezers gleamin'
In the moon-lighty night

 

And then I'd
Get a cuppa cawfee
N' give my foot a push...
Just me 'n the pymgy pony
Over the Dennil Floss Bush

N' then I might just
Jumb back on
An' ride
Like a cowboy
Into the dawn to Montana

Movin' to Montana soon
(Yippy-Ty-O-Ty-Ay)
Movin' to Montana soon
(Yippy-Ty-O-Ty-Ay)

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He also had a cameo appearance in The Monkee's

movie HEAD, in which he told Davy Jones he should

spend less time practicing his dancing and more time

working on his music, because the Kids were depending

on him.  He was walking a cow on the back lot at the time.

 

 

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In a message dated 8/1/2006 5:17:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

There is no "between BATTLE and PLANET," God Damn It All To Hell!!!!

Dude, f**king relax ok? There is a between Battle and Planet, there's 2000 years of history there. So why not do a film there?

 

 

"People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people."
V For Vendetta.

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In a message dated 8/2/2006 11:17:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, john@... writes:

didn't look like a guy to be
messed with either.John, Scrolls.

He was a sweet and good natured guy who wrote some brilliant Jazz as well as off the wall Rock And Roll (Yellow Snow). He also took that idiot Tipper Gore to task in front of Congress when they were talking about rating music (as they do today with music and videogames). He was also very intelligent and went way before his time.

 

 

"People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people."
V For Vendetta.

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In a message dated 8/2/2006 3:33:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

I'll have to try his
recipe for Dishwasher Fish someday

It works perfectly! When I heard about his idea of steaming fish that way, I tried it with shrimp (without the cascade) and I'll be damned, It worked!!!!!!..................joe OBrien

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In a message dated 8/2/2006 12:32:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

He also had a cameo appearance in The Monkee's

movie HEAD, in which he told Davy Jones he should

spend less time practicing his dancing and more time

working on his music, because the Kids were depending

on him.  He was walking a cow on the back lot at the time.

 

He was IN an episode of the Monkees, imitating Mike with a wool cap and all!

Bruce

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There isn't? On page 229 of Joe Russo's 'Planet of the Apes Revisited' it states: "The aired series is set between Battle for the Planet of the Apes and the original Planet".

A whole pile of mistakes doesn't make it so!
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Funny, that's what I keep saying.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> A whole pile of mistakes doesn't make it so!
>

 Frank told me they offered it to him, but the script was so bad, he
turned it down immediately. It was then that he tried to tell them
why, but they weren't interested.

 

As anyone who wasn't a money grubbing hack would have! 

 

Hear this now and remember it later -- BURTON DID IT FOR THE MONEY!  THEY ALL DID IT FOR THE MONEY!

 

-- Rory

 

 

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How about "pre-quels"???
When did it really start to change?
At the destruction of the rainforest or when we intervened and
introduced sign-language?
WHERE was the revolt?
Has it already begun or will our grandchildren see the beginning?
Are WE devolving?
Where's that damned blog where we can all throw our two-cents in
at!?
There's a lot of history floating around in those ape tapes...
Put some logistics in and we have a beginning...
Unfortunatly there are folks out there wanting to make some
money and our intertwined thoughts could be used to make others
rich...
Uhoh...
It's thundering where I live...
That only means one thing...
Logging out and shutting everything down...

I have homework anyway...

I LOVE you all like family...


Sincerely,

Thades Darling Human
:)

I was reading an article last night that said the new buzz-word in
Hollywood is `retcon', which is an abbreviation for 'retroactive
continuity'. This is where accepted continuity is re-wriiten to
accommodate a new story. It's nothing new of course, 'Highlander the
series' did it a decade ago and 'Smallville' is currently doing it
right now - and purely from a ratings POV, very successfully too.

So looking back was Paul Dehn an innovator of `retcon' and looking
forward could that be the magic word that greenlights a new Ape movie?

Looking sideways, my boss is coming! Gotta go!

Dave

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:

>
> I was reading an article last night that said the new buzz-word in
> Hollywood is `retcon', which is an abbreviation for 'retroactive
> continuity'. This is where accepted continuity is re-wriiten to
> accommodate a new story. It's nothing new of course, 'Highlander

the

> series' did it a decade ago and 'Smallville' is currently doing it
> right now - and purely from a ratings POV, very successfully too.
>
> So looking back was Paul Dehn an innovator of `retcon' and looking
> forward could that be the magic word that greenlights a new Ape

movie?

>
> Looking sideways, my boss is coming! Gotta go!
>
> Dave
>

Didn't George Lucas start the "pre-quel",ie, "retcon" ?
It began this backward spiral into "where did we come from in all
catagories", right?
Where DID our "Apes" come from?
In all, if we look at the 2001 abrupter, we could say it started
there and descended to the '68 period of the "Apes" considering how
primitive they lived in the "'01" description,ie; primitive and not
yet used to a talking culture of homosapien...
A missing link as in our human genus...
Fill in the blanks..
Boulle started this.
It's up to us to fill it in?
Create your own conclusion as to how they came to be...
Perhaps we dropped the ball somewhere far beyond our lifetime
and they now hold court...
Guess what,dude - it's stormin' like hell where I am and I have
to cut out...
Ponder that que, okay? :>
Love,
Thade's Darling Human

Hollywood loves to make-up their own rules.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> I was reading an article last night that said the new buzz-word in
> Hollywood is `retcon', which is an abbreviation for 'retroactive
> continuity'. This is where accepted continuity is re-wriiten to
> accommodate a new story. It's nothing new of course, 'Highlander the
> series' did it a decade ago and 'Smallville' is currently doing it
> right now - and purely from a ratings POV, very successfully too.
>
> So looking back was Paul Dehn an innovator of `retcon' and looking
> forward could that be the magic word that greenlights a new Ape movie?
>
> Looking sideways, my boss is coming! Gotta go!
>
> Dave
>

On the Mego web site (www.megomuseum.com) if you follow the Apes link
there's an article about a big Mego Apes promotion in 1975 on Long
Island--there were live actors and scenery and it seems to have been a
lot of fun.Anybody remember this? John, Scrolls.

Now that I think about this I do remember reading an article about the
TV series Frasier. Much of what had been estabished about him had to be
fleshed out retroactively and bit & pieces needed to be revised.

One big continuity error was that in several episodes of Cheers Frasier
said his father was dead. The producers took the stand that only what
is seen by the audience counts and anything merely spoken by a
character was heresay. The error was later explained that Frasier and
his dad had a fight and weren't speaking at the time so Frasier
considered his father "dead to me".

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> I was reading an article last night that said the new buzz-word in
> Hollywood is `retcon', which is an abbreviation for 'retroactive
> continuity'. This is where accepted continuity is re-wriiten to
> accommodate a new story. It's nothing new of course, 'Highlander the
> series' did it a decade ago and 'Smallville' is currently doing it
> right now - and purely from a ratings POV, very successfully too.
>
> So looking back was Paul Dehn an innovator of `retcon' and looking
> forward could that be the magic word that greenlights a new Ape movie?
>
> Looking sideways, my boss is coming! Gotta go!
>
> Dave
>

It's Friday again and what better way to start the weekend than some words of wisdom from the 'Greatest Ape of All'. This week's LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now available. Thanks to everyone who contributed.

To view the Lesson just click on the banner on the Yahoo Home Page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm.

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In a message dated 8/4/2006 9:00:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

One big continuity error was that in several episodes of Cheers Frasier
said his father was dead. The producers took the stand that only what
is seen by the audience counts and anything merely spoken by a
character was heresay.

 

That would be a big OUT for the Mad Max series.

At the end of The Road Warrior the narrator said

their new leader was the Gyro Captain.  But in

Thunderdome Bruce Spence is out in the middle

of the Wasteland with no one but his son.  MMIII

was the POTA 2001 of the series.  But instead

of Mark Wahlberg they got Tina Turner -- Not

sure who got the worst deal there.  At least

Kistofferson can act, sort of.  Never cared for

MCD.  Green Mile was okay, but since then

all his performances have seemed very forced.

 

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In a message dated 8/4/2006 12:51:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

 

That would be a big OUT for the Mad Max series.

At the end of The Road Warrior the narrator said

their new leader was the Gyro Captain.  But in

Thunderdome Bruce Spence is out in the middle

of the Wasteland with no one but his son. 

Except that isn't the Gyro Captain in Thunderdome. It's Bruce Spence as an entirely new Character.

 

 

"People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people."
V For Vendetta.

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FYI, Bruce Spence and Mel Gibson are friends that go way back...Bruce
was in others of Mel's movies...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@... wrote:
>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/4/2006 12:51:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> LordTZer0@... writes:
>
>
> That would be a big OUT for the Mad Max series.
> At the end of The Road Warrior the narrator said
> their new leader was the Gyro Captain. But in
> Thunderdome Bruce Spence is out in the middle
> of the Wasteland with no one but his son.
>
>
>
>
> Except that isn't the Gyro Captain in Thunderdome. It's Bruce
Spence as an
> entirely new Character.
>
>
> "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear
their
> people."
> V For Vendetta.
>

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In a message dated 8/4/2006 3:00:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Mithril1960@... writes:

Except that isn't the Gyro Captain in Thunderdome. It's Bruce Spence as an entirely new Character.

 

That's another thing.

Why a pilot?  They fix

his teeth, change his

aircraft and Shazam!

The transformation is

complete!  He's a new

character!? Hugh Laurie

he ain't.  Same guy.

 

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:

>
> On the Mego web site (www.megomuseum.com) if you follow the Apes

link

> there's an article about a big Mego Apes promotion in 1975 on Long
> Island--there were live actors and scenery and it seems to have been

a

> lot of fun.Anybody remember this? John, Scrolls.
>

In grade school I had a picture of a bunch of Orang actors all
lined up on some rocks, but they said it was Staten Island...

Item number: 170014744180

Featuring better make-up than was seen in the movie :0)

Dave

The following pota poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: Which version of Battle do you prefer?

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- The Original Version, 0 votes, 0.00%
- The Extended Version, 11 votes, 91.67%
- Neither, both stink, 1 votes, 8.33%



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POLL QUESTION: Do you wish that a sequel to the '01 POTA would be made?

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Yes, 2 votes, 40.00%
- No, 3 votes, 60.00%



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WHOA!!!
Those are really COOL!!!
Unfortunatly I'm not ready to doal out 200.00 for a statue I have
not yet found at bymetoys.com
I have a rare Thade statue guarding my pc at the moment and he's
really cool...
If you all can recall "Trilogy of Terror" starring Karen Black,
well my Thade is looking just as evil as that little bastard that
chased her all over the house...
God forbid he lose his sword!!!
Good thing he's not lifesize for HIS sake!!!

When are we going to get a grip and realize there is no more 1968!?
Those apes were great! Inspired several sequels...
This is 2006..
Nothing stays the same and those damned dirty humans will lay
their hands on our classics!
We have to get used to it and continue to put our two-cents forth...
Sad but true...
Let's just put our best producers forward as we smoke a lot of
cigarettes and write it the right way even though they will never hear
us...
Damned good thing my best work (well, at leat that's what everyone
says) lies in a three-foot tall file cabinet.
I followed Rod Serling...
He went through hell to write his stories.
He saw war...
Felt it...
Lived it...
Died from it ( he smoked incessantly from nervous tension)...
I don't think there's a director out there who can capture the
true essence of the originals, and I don't expect them to...
The age of innocence is gone along with Zira and Cornelius...
They are gone but not forgotten...
There will never be another Roddy McDowall or a Kim Hunter...
Therefor there will never be a revised '68 "Planet of the Apes".
Either live in the past or pull up your bootstraps and get ready
for the new generation of apes...
They're not pretty...
They're real-to-life, which was what pulled into existence
with "01's version...
They're mean nasty mother f*****'s , and they don't give a s**t
about who talks and who walks!
But still, I wonder, before my heads chopped off...
"How in the hell did they gain superiority?"

Sincerely'
Thades Darling Human
;]

.html.htmlIn a message dated 8/5/06 2:07:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, thadesdarlinghuman@... writes:

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> On the Mego web site (www.megomuseum.com) if you follow the Apes
link
> there's an article about a big Mego Apes promotion in 1975 on Long
> Island--there were live actors and scenery and it seems to have been
a
> lot of fun.Anybody remember this? John, Scrolls.
>
In grade school I had a picture of a bunch of Orang actors all
lined up on some rocks, but they said it was Staten Island...

Well, the picture I saw on that site showed a shot that was taken in Hempstead, Long Island.  That's where I lived in the '60s.   Though I first saw PLANET in Wantagh and later Levittown and Lynbrook, in 1969 I saw it twice at the Calderone Theatre in downtown Hempstead.  (I walked to the theatre all by myself -- at the age of nine!  Can you imagine anyone these days letting a nine-year-old do that?)

I moved to upstate New York in June 1970 just after BENEATH came out, so I know nothing of the POTA scene on L.I. in the seventies.

One thing though is that I thought the Mego figures SUCKED!  I grew up with 12" G.I. Joes and Marx action figures.  That's the kind of APES stuff I would have wanted.

-- Rory<.html <.html

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In a message dated 8/5/2006 9:28:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Well, the picture I saw on that site showed a shot that was taken in Hempstead, Long Island.  That's where I lived in the '60s.   Though I first saw PLANET in Wantagh and later Levittown and Lynbrook, in 1969 I saw it twice at the Calderone Theatre in downtown Hempstead.  (I walked to the theatre all by myself -- at the age of nine!  Can you imagine anyone these days letting a nine-year-old do that?)

I moved to upstate New York in June 1970 just after BENEATH came out, so I know nothing of the POTA scene on L.I. in the seventies

Are we talking about the Toys R Us "Go Ape" Mego promotion? Some where in my missing scrapbook I have a full-page newspaper ad  from that. I've got to find that book!

Bruce

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John are you talking about this? This is a Macy's
thanksgiving day parade float in 75....I couldn't find
what you are talking about.....

Tim

> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002"
> <john@...> wrote:
> >
> > On the Mego web site (www.megomuseum.com) if you
> follow the Apes
> link
> > there's an article about a big Mego Apes promotion
> in 1975 on Long
> > Island--there were live actors and scenery and it
> seems to have been
> a
> > lot of fun.Anybody remember this? John, Scrolls.
> >
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Well, I don't really know WHAT I'm talking about(not a first),all I
know is the article at megomuseum.It does look like 1975 was an Ape
year--just a shame CBS ducked out too early.I like the Mego sculpts--
seeing those little guys just takes me back to the 70s.The Zaius and
Zira sculpts are really, really good, and Burke is pretty good
too.Granted, the soldier ape looks like a sucked prune and Urko looks
like he's just heard about the cancellation of the show, but I still
love them.John.

>
>
> John are you talking about this? This is a Macy's
> thanksgiving day parade float in 75....I couldn't find
> what you are talking about.....
>
> Tim
>
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002"
> > <john@> wrote:
> > >
> > > On the Mego web site (www.megomuseum.com) if you
> > follow the Apes
> > link
> > > there's an article about a big Mego Apes promotion
> > in 1975 on Long
> > > Island--there were live actors and scenery and it
> > seems to have been
> > a
> > > lot of fun.Anybody remember this? John, Scrolls.
> > >
> >
>
>

.html I have that Thade statue also. Makes me feel good on a bad day. Elaine<.html

.html <.html

I had a look yesterday at the packaging for the single discs of the
movies--the picture on the back of Battle is awful--Austin and TWO
DOUBLES(!), looking tired, with CRAP makeup.Battle must have more
publicity stills than any of the other movies, and THIS is the picture
they choose??! Over the years, there almost seems to have been a
conspiracy to use bad images for Apes.The 'Go Ape!' gorilla, thouigh
now iconic, is still a poor makeup.We get Liberty on the packaging for
the movies, giving away the twist, and the TV Series set takes the
prize for 'Bland Churn it Out' set of the century.With something so
packed with superb images, how come Apes never sems to get 'the
treatment' presentation-wise? John, Scrolls.

Very odd indeed. Somehow I'm not surprized no one has bid.

Elsewhere on Ebay, who has almost $400 to bid on these?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> Item number: 170014744180
>
> Featuring better make-up than was seen in the movie :0)
>
> Dave
>

This one is closer than I expected. But still not surprized that
most don't want a sequel to the remake.

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>
> POLL QUESTION: Do you wish that a sequel to the '01 POTA would be
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>
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> - Yes, 2 votes, 40.00%
> - No, 3 votes, 60.00%
>
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>
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Wow, I'm surprized that the original didn't even get one vote. I
guess the Extended cut is the version Fans overwhelmingly prefere.

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>
> The following pota poll is now closed. Here are the
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>
> POLL QUESTION: Which version of Battle do you prefer?
>
> CHOICES AND RESULTS
> - The Original Version, 0 votes, 0.00%
> - The Extended Version, 11 votes, 91.67%
> - Neither, both stink, 1 votes, 8.33%
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I've always found it odd that most of the major merchandising for POTA
was done after the movies were over. My guess is the reasons were
twofold, FOX thought the TV series would be a big hit & wanted to
capitalize on it and they didn't want to make the effort until the
owned the property 100% (why share the profits with Jacobs or anyone
else).
Of course for me the summer of 1974 was truely the summer of Apes.
While in previous years the POTA films would come out in May/June and
then make it to my local theaters sometime in July, by August there was
really no new Apes to look forward to until the next year. Yet in '74
we had the GO APE! festival in July. In August I discovered the first
issue of Marvel's magazine and of course I was eagerly awaiting the TV
series in the fall.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Well, I don't really know WHAT I'm talking about(not a first),all I
> know is the article at megomuseum.It does look like 1975 was an Ape
> year--just a shame CBS ducked out too early.I like the Mego sculpts--
> seeing those little guys just takes me back to the 70s.The Zaius and
> Zira sculpts are really, really good, and Burke is pretty good
> too.Granted, the soldier ape looks like a sucked prune and Urko looks
> like he's just heard about the cancellation of the show, but I still
> love them.John.
> >

I've often wondered why FOX never used the original poster art in any of the video releases through the years. While the covers on the last two DVD issues arre far better than the crappy VHS covers done in the '80s, they are still very generic.

 

Both would be better using the film's original One Sheets than these graphics.

What's worse for the Evolution box set is that the main Ape images are innapropriate for each film.

• Beneath should not have Roddy but either Ursus or Zaius.
• Zira is fine for Escape.
• Conquest should have Roddy not some generic gorilla.
• Battle should have either Aldo or a mutant. Either is better than Virgil.

One thing that is lucky for POTA fans (or at least those who are members of this group) is that DVD based on the original graphics are available on the group's website:

Just go to the Downloads page in the Art & Info section to download and print out. http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Downloads.htm

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> I had a look yesterday at the packaging for the single discs of the
> movies--the picture on the back of Battle is awful--Austin and TWO
> DOUBLES(!), looking tired, with CRAP makeup.Battle must have more
> publicity stills than any of the other movies, and THIS is the picture
> they choose??! Over the years, there almost seems to have been a
> conspiracy to use bad images for Apes.The 'Go Ape!' gorilla, thouigh
> now iconic, is still a poor makeup.We get Liberty on the packaging for
> the movies, giving away the twist, and the TV Series set takes the
> prize for 'Bland Churn it Out' set of the century.With something so
> packed with superb images, how come Apes never sems to get 'the
> treatment' presentation-wise? John, Scrolls.
>

.html.htmlIn a message dated 8/6/06 7:44:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, john@... writes:

I had a look yesterday at the packaging for the single discs of the
movies--the picture on the back of Battle is awful--Austin and TWO
DOUBLES(!), looking tired, with CRAP makeup.Battle must have more
publicity stills than any of the other movies, and THIS is the picture
they choose??! Over the years, there almost seems to have been a
conspiracy to use bad images for Apes.The 'Go Ape!' gorilla, thouigh
now iconic, is still a poor makeup.We get Liberty on the packaging for
the movies, giving away the twist, and the TV Series set takes the
prize for 'Bland Churn it Out' set of the century.With something so
packed with superb images, how come Apes never sems to get 'the
treatment' presentation-wise? John, Scrolls.

There's never been a cover for anything APES on home video -- in this country anyway -- that I've liked, not on videocassette, CED video disc, Laserdisc, or now DVD.  I've always believed that the problem is that those working for Fox over the past 30 years just don't know apes!  Look at how many times images from BENEATH have been used for PLANET?  Of course part of the problem is that the entire film series is looked at as just one entity. 

Fox has done great covers for other of their movies, but when it comes to APES it's as if they're cursed.

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 8/6/06 9:57:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Wow, I'm surprised that the original didn't even get one vote. I
guess the Extended cut is the version Fans overwhelmingly prefer.

BATTLE needs all the help it can get!

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 8/6/06 10:31:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

I've always found it odd that most of the major merchandising for POTA
was done after the movies were over. My guess is the reasons were
twofold, FOX thought the TV series would be a big hit & wanted to
capitalize on it and they didn't want to make the effort until they
owned the property 100% (why share the profits with Jacobs or anyone
else).

No, I don't think those were the reasons.  First, back in '68 I'm sure Fox didn't consider POTA as a kids-orientated entity.  POTA was aimed at adults too.  Also, there was the debacle of DR. DOLITTLE and that huge merchandising campaign that bombed.  The memory of that fiasco lasted for years at the studio.  It should also be remembered that the studio management that made the first two APES films was gone by the time of the last APES films.   The Zanucks lost the studio.   The last three APES films were really low-budget "B" movies.  Fox was a studio that was really hard up for money in the early seventies.  It was damn near broke.  It was the huge audiences the first three APES films had on CBS in the fall of 1973 that woke Fox up to the idea that maybe there was more to be milked from the ape tit.  Nothing starts the greed machine rolling like a 60 share!  But, by 1974, Fox aimed APES squarely at kids.  This was unfortunate and what really killed the "franchise."  It's an outlook the concept hasn't been able to escape since.

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 8/6/06 10:33:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

However, I don't think that this is something particular to POTA. FOX seems to have some poor artists in their marketing department.

They seem to be getting better.  The recent covers for the special editions of POSEIDON ADVENTURE, PATTON and THE LONGEST DAY have been great.

The problem is that Fox doesn't actually do these things themselves.  It's farmed out to companies that specialize in producing this stuff.

-- Rory<.html <.html

I've got the Ursus....and he's very cool.... but can't
afford the rest right now....

Tim

--- James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

>
> Very odd indeed. Somehow I'm not surprized no one
> has bid.
>
> Elsewhere on Ebay, who has almost $400 to bid on
> these?
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B"
> <smugster2000@...> wrote:
> >
> > Item number: 170014744180
> >
> > Featuring better make-up than was seen in the
> movie :0)
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
>
>

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Very cool!

Hunter

I agree! Very cool! wonder how long it would take to
do a 90 minute film!!

Tim

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LOL I loved it!!!

Is that a Sideshow Figure?

BOB

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It's Bob! Hey everybody ...THIS is Bob....Bib's
brother....(I'll explain later Bob....)

Tim

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I think the artwork on the American one sheets is just too bland.
Maybe the French or Japanese posters... But if I had my way... I like
the new artwork for The Shawshank Redemption and the soon to be
released Green Mile dvd's. I wish Fox would have commisioned the
artist to do Apes posters.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 8/6/06 7:44:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> john@... writes:
>
>
> > I had a look yesterday at the packaging for the single discs of
the
> > movies--the picture on the back of Battle is awful--Austin and
TWO
> > DOUBLES(!), looking tired, with CRAP makeup.Battle must have more
> > publicity stills than any of the other movies, and THIS is the
picture
> > they choose??! Over the years, there almost seems to have been a
> > conspiracy to use bad images for Apes.The 'Go Ape!' gorilla,
thouigh
> > now iconic, is still a poor makeup.We get Liberty on the
packaging for
> > the movies, giving away the twist, and the TV Series set takes
the
> > prize for 'Bland Churn it Out' set of the century.With something
so
> > packed with superb images, how come Apes never sems to get 'the
> > treatment' presentation-wise? John, Scrolls.
> >
>
> There's never been a cover for anything APES on home video -- in
this country
> anyway -- that I've liked, not on videocassette, CED video disc,
Laserdisc,
> or now DVD. I've always believed that the problem is that those
working for
> Fox over the past 30 years just don't know apes! Look at how many
times images
> from BENEATH have been used for PLANET? Of course part of the
problem is that
> the entire film series is looked at as just one entity.
>
> Fox has done great covers for other of their movies, but when it
comes to
> APES it's as if they're cursed.
>
> -- Rory
>

Welcome to the group Bob. Come in and tell us a bit about yourself.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> It's Bob! Hey everybody ...THIS is Bob....Bib's
> brother....(I'll explain later Bob....)
>
> Tim
>
> --- spy_hunter54 <spy_hunter54@...> wrote:
>
> > LOL I loved it!!!
> >
> > Is that a Sideshow Figure?
> >
> > BOB
> >
> >

I guess it is a matter of taste. I love the American One Sheets. Maybe
because they are part of my memories of the films as child. Or maybe
I'm just bland myself;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> I think the artwork on the American one sheets is just too bland.

>The GO APE poster appears to me to be an OVERHEAD MASK...not a

makeup

EXACTLY! Why the hell use the WORST images for a publicity campaign?!
John.

> EXACTLY! Why the hell use the WORST images for a publicity campaign?!

Because even then they didn't take the films seriously. I think they
deliberately chose the mask photo to make light of it all (along with
"Go Ape!" as a slogan).

Hunter

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----- Original Message -----

From: shanter2002

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:53 AM

Subject: [POTA] Re: Ape Image

EXACTLY! Why the hell use the WORST images for a publicity campaign?!
John.

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I don't agree that the TV Series was a kiddie show--it's content and
approach was adult and mature throughout.Taking the episodes in turn:
1.Starts with the death of Jones, the shooting of Farrow and the
accidental killing by Galen of a gorilla intent on murdering Virdon
and Burke.State suppression and repression are key topics.
2.Humans habtually fight to the death in an arena for sport, with
Tolar and Jason shooting each other.Pacifism in the face of violence
is the theme.
3.Despite Urko's attempts to murder Burke, the delicate handling of
the race issue leaves us sympathetic with the Apes.
4.Race and bigotry are examined and satirised intelligently.
5.Virdon is tortured and imprisoned with two brutalised companions,
one of them a young child.Urko casually speaks of wiping out families
in reprisal and of killing Vidon as he is of no more use.
6.Old humans are tied to rafts and pushed out to sea to satsfy gods
who oversee a human slave culture.
7.Virdon is near fatally shot, and then treated at a hospital where
child abuse and domestic violence are the norm.
8.An Ape is imlpicated in his brother's murder, whilst Klan like
thugs muredr one human by burning his home and dragging him along on
a rope.
9.Urko is prepared to murder to win a bet, and a boy is locked in a
cage to prepare for public execution.
10.Burke is beaten, tortured and then prepared for a lobotomy--we are
shown a diagram just in case we don't know what it is.
11.A tyrant gorilla murders a human in reprisal for a theft and only
just fails to kill another--he is likewise thwarted in trying to blow
up Urko.
12.Urko wants to burn a village full of humans and will be allowed to
do so if a plague cure isn't found.
13.Humans capture other humans to hand over as slaves, knowing they
will die.They ritually kill their own whilst their leader plans
genocide.
14.Leuric is beaten and bleeding whilst imprisoned, and Carsia plans
a massive act of terrorism by bombing her government.
There are at least 10 violent deaths in 14 episodes, not counting a
plague, and several other murders and mass murders are avoided.
The show was not a kiddie show.It dealt with race hatred, torture,
terrorism,child abuse, government repression and pacifism in an
intelligent and entertaining manner.
I don't agree that the show killed the franchise--Mego sold bucket
loads in 1975 and the Marvel magazine lasted until 1977.There was
even the animated series in between.Bad decisions at CBS ended a
promising show far too soon.For some fans, the TV Series helped
establish the franchise, at a time when the movies were arguably
running out of steam.The TV show deserves respect.JOHN, SCROLLS.

> They've got a picture of apes in masks running on one of
> the posters, I think "Beneath".

Yeah, that picture has, unfortunately, been used on lots of
merchandise....

Yes it's always bothered me......now that would be a
good Photoshop project....replacing the Go APe gorilla
head with that of say Marcus or some other gorilla
soldier......! If I have time I'll see what I can whip
up...

Tim

--- softparadeband <softparadeband@...> wrote:

> >The GO APE poster appears to me to be an OVERHEAD
> MASK...not a
> makeup
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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In a message dated 8/6/2006 10:24:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

First, back in '68 I'm sure Fox didn't consider POTA as a kids-orientated entity.

 

It sure as hell wasn't. You don't show kids bare-assed scenes,

or talk about lobotomies or gelding or thermonuclear war. 

It was anything but a kiddy matinee.  It may have  been

the 60s, but it was the 60's. MASH got a X Rating back

then. And only by getting back to the more adult themes

does POTA have any hope for the future. An updating is

the only thing that can save the franchise.  Audiences

are jaded, and not as easily shocked these days as

they were in the past.  The more sophisticated the

audience the more adult it must be to compete

for dwindling turnouts.  R - Rated POTA is

the only hope.  NC-17 would be even better.

Not the Toy-Pusher fare from Lucas et al.

 

 

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Making POTA into a R- rated movie or an NC-17 in my opinion
would be like the kiss of death for this proud series. If Fox was smart
they should follow what Universal did with Battlestar Galactica and
what Warner Bros did when they revived the "Batman" franchise when they
did "Batman Begins" and the new "Superman Returns" movie. Studios in
Hollywood want to make money, and that means pushing movie based toy
related items to kids, like the new Superman movie and the Batman
franchise . Audiences want to be entertained, and trying to shock them
isn't going to do it. The Star Trek television series back in the mid
60's only lasted about three years, but after countless re-runs, an
animated tv series, 9 movies, four television series and news of
another Star Trek movie on the horizon. I would like to hope that
people in at Fox could see what the other studios have done with
StarTrek, Superman, TMNT, BattleStar Galactica, and Batman they can do
the same with POTA. Just only make the apes more mature, but not to the
point that you alienate your core fan base.

Kevin
PofTAfan

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Mego Long Island

In a message dated 8/6/2006 10:24:06 A.M. Central
Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
First, back in '68 I'm sure Fox didn't consider POTA as a
kids-orientated entity.


It sure as hell wasn't. You don't show kids bare-assed scenes,
or talk about lobotomies or gelding or thermonuclear war.
It was anything but a kiddy matinee. It may have been
the 60s, but it was the 60's. MASH got a X Rating back
then. And only by getting back to the more adult themes
does POTA have any hope for the future. An updating is
the only thing that can save the franchise. Audiences
are jaded, and not as easily shocked these days as
they were in the past. The more sophisticated the
audience the more adult it must be to compete
for dwindling turnouts. R - Rated POTA is
the only hope. NC-17 would be even better.
Not the Toy-Pusher fare from Lucas et al.







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In a message dated 8/7/2006 8:20:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, PofTAfan@... writes:

Making POTA into a R- rated movie or an NC-17 in my opinion
would be like the kiss of death for this proud series.

 

WHAT are you talking about?

It's already been given the Kiss of Death!

It's Dead!  Dead as Kelsey's nuts.  What

exactly was proud about POTA2K1?  Or

Beneath for that matter?  Shame, not

pride is what those were. In a way it's

a good thing.  If there were a bunch of

Star Wars / Trekies for POTA running

around I'd really be ashamed of liking

POTA.  As it is the last couple of

efforts were just an embarrassment.

 

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Sorry if I was a tad harsh on that relpy.

I'm watching Hell's Kitchen and Chef

Ramsey's attitude tends to rub of on you.

 

 

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In a message dated 8/7/2006 8:20:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, PofTAfan@... writes:

Hollywood want to make money, and that means pushing movie based toy
related items to kids, like the new Superman movie and the Batman
franchise .

Oh GOD no.  That's what ruined the Star Wars series.

You don't have to turn POTA into another comic book

movie to entertain people.  That's NOT what the original

was.  It was Sci-fi bordering on a horror movie.  It was a

Twilight Zone, and it was genius to hire Serling to work

on it.  Maybe recreating the magic of it is impossible.

 

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I meant the one sheets were too bland for today's marketing purposes...
I like them as well, I own them all, the Beneath and Conquest one
sheets are framed and prominently displayed in my home...

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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> I guess it is a matter of taste. I love the American One Sheets.
Maybe
> because they are part of my memories of the films as child. Or maybe
> I'm just bland myself;-)
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@> wrote:
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> > I think the artwork on the American one sheets is just too bland.
>

Did it? Even though at any sci-fi convention or comic-con I see
grown up and even kids dressed up as characters from Star Wars, even
though that this series is more popular than ever. I am not saying
turning POTA into another comic book movie, I was saying that maybe if
Fox did what Universal did with Battlestar Galactica when they did a
total remake of the television series and made it more mature and a lot
more serious instead of the 1979 series. Fox can do the same thing with
the Apes . That is what I'm suggesting that Fox do.

Kevin
PofTAfan


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In a message dated 8/7/2006 8:20:42 P.M. Central Daylight
Time, PofTAfan@... writes:
Hollywood want to make money, and that means pushing movie based toy
related items to kids, like the new Superman movie and the Batman
franchise .

Oh GOD no. That's what ruined the Star Wars series.
You don't have to turn POTA into another comic book
movie to entertain people. That's NOT what the original
was. It was Sci-fi bordering on a horror movie. It was a
Twilight Zone, and it was genius to hire Serling to work
on it. Maybe recreating the magic of it is impossible.






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In a message dated 8/7/2006 9:52:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, PofTAfan@... writes:

That is what I'm suggesting that Fox do.

 

That's cool. 

We just have different ideas on the direction.

You write yours and I'll write mine and lets

see who's get's picked up.  Seems fair.

 

 

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I have a small very hard plastic model of one of the Icarus, it looks
like the one from the TV show and Escape (was that the same one? What
ever happened to that cool prop?) and I was wondering, how come there
was never a model kit of this ship? That and the Discovery are two
models I would have loved to have had when I was younger!

Is this worth getting? I saw screens from it and such, but never got
around to grabbing it. Has anyone played it?

It's the Rodney Dangerfield of POTAdom;-)

When it comes to the TV series there is a real cultural divide. In the
UK it was a very big hit so people there see it as a big part of the
POTA universe. In the US it was a flop so the movies are given
precedent.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> The TV show deserves respect.JOHN, SCROLLS.
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> It don't get much, does it?
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The ship in the TV show was the same ship used in Escape, Beneath &
Planet.
As to why there was never a model is unknown. Where did you get yours?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rhob1960" <Mithril1960@...> wrote:
>
> I have a small very hard plastic model of one of the Icarus, it looks
> like the one from the TV show and Escape (was that the same one? What
> ever happened to that cool prop?) and I was wondering, how come there
> was never a model kit of this ship? That and the Discovery are two
> models I would have loved to have had when I was younger!
>