--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <p3murds@...> wrote:
>
> As "Limbo" said in the latest movie, "can't we all just get
along?"
> (LOL)
>
> As one of the new guys, I have seen some smart, and respectful
stuff
> written in this message board. I thought I'd get blasted when I
once
> mentioned the TV series, as well as the last movie,...didn't happen.
>
> Stick around, this place is great!
>
> Very respectfully, Paul Wright
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thadesdarlinghuman"
> <thadesdarlinghuman@> wrote:
> >
> > I don't visit this site much these daze". Too much one-
sidedness
> and
> > no room to stretch. I need to flex and unfortuneatly I can't do
> that
> > here...
> > There's no breathing room unless you live in the 60's and 70's
> and
> > I'm afraid I've graduated beyond that point...
> > Don't get me wrong! I love Zira, Cornelius, and all who
> followed,
> > but come on!!!
> > If you don't give there is no future for our apes and we
can't
> lie
> > around in the past and just expect something to occur...
> > I'm moving forward from the 2001 and I'm sorry if you're
upset
> but
> > there's gotta be a loophole somewhere and I'm constantly
searching
> for
> > it whether you are or not...
> > And it lies in that one...
> > It's a portal...
> > A bend in time...
> > Going now and I expect a few to rescind and I don't care...
> > I thought the characters were strong and viral and I'm not
> backing
> > down...
> > Sincerely,
> > Thade's Darling Human...
> >
>

>
> Boy, you said it, Rory...I'm very eclectic in my
> tastes for movies, and NOTHING has interested me
> at the show for a looong time!...I'm tired of the
> remakes, and the TV show re-dos; especially where
> one of the main points seems to be to put an eth-
> nic actor in the lead, regardless of whether it
> fits the storyline, or is even appropriate...
>
> G

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:49 AM

Subject: [POTA] Re: One-sided...

In a message dated 1/4/2007 2:05:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, HotScheetz@aol. com writes:

Boy, you said it, Rory...I'm very eclectic in my tastes for movies, and
NOTHING has interested me at the show for a looong time!...I'm tired of
the remakes, and the TV show re-dos; especially where one of the main
points seems to be to put an ethnic actor in the lead, regardless of
whether it fits the storyline, or is even appropriate. ..

G

We're in the "Post-dumbed- downed era."  Everything has already been dumded-down and now it's just getting dumber.

-- Rory

----- Original Message -----

From: Jonathan

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 1:31 PM

Subject: [POTA] Re: One-sided...

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@ ...> wrote:
>
> Boy, you said it, Rory...I'm very eclectic in my
> tastes for movies, and NOTHING has interested me
> at the show for a looong time!...I'm tired of the
> remakes, and the TV show re-dos; especially where
> one of the main points seems to be to put an eth-
> nic actor in the lead, regardless of whether it
> fits the storyline, or is even appropriate. ..
>
> G

Oh boy- are you ever RIGHT about THAT!!!

The biggest shocker- and let's be real, having
Will Smith play the role of James West in the movie
'Wild, Wild West'!!! Good... GAWD! :-/

Look... I don't have a prejudiced bone in my
body, seriously, but a black man playing James
West, a member of the U.S. Secret Service, in
post Civil War America. SHEESH! I mean... I
like Will Smith as much as the next guy. He's
incredibly bright, raps very well, has a fantas-
tic sense of humor, is a wonderful actor, is
quick-witted nearly to the point of genius- BUT-
he has no cause to be featured in the role of
James West. WAY off base!

From what I know of history and the bigotries
prevalent of the time, it just couldn't happen.
No friggin' way! And I don't care if it is 'sci-
ence fiction', as much as it was. And I'm not
going to accept the excuse that it's an 'alter-
nate reality'. Unreal is what it is. It just
plain didn't work for me at all, AND... I had
black friends and coworkers who bitched about
the whole idea a lot louder than I did. It's
no different that if a black man played the
role of Julius Ceasar, Abraham Lincoln, or
Donald Trump! Hey... I'm all for racial equality
and cultural cross-overs into any entertainment
medium, and visa versa- with a tip 'o the hat to
Vanilla Ice and Eminem- but there are just some
roles that must historically be played by 'white'
actors.

And I don't care if this view is politically
correct- or not. Some things just don't make any
sense at all to me, especially when it comes to
a topic such as this, simply because I cannot ig-
nore such major divergences from what is established
as clear document fact. It just isn't right, and
I'm not gonna swallow it. And I hope that Holly-
wood wises up- SOON! Good gracious :-/

~ Jon Rich

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Another thing we can kick sand at the "Wild, Wild West" movie for
is that Warners decided to to do that instead of Burton's "Superman".
If they had done "Superman", Burton probably wouldn't have
done "Planet of the Apes". Not that Fox would've picked someone
better, but things might have turned out different. - - - Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jonathan
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 1:31 PM
> Subject: [POTA] Re: One-sided...
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > Boy, you said it, Rory...I'm very eclectic in my
> > tastes for movies, and NOTHING has interested me
> > at the show for a looong time!...I'm tired of the
> > remakes, and the TV show re-dos; especially where
> > one of the main points seems to be to put an eth-
> > nic actor in the lead, regardless of whether it
> > fits the storyline, or is even appropriate...
> >
> > G
>
> Oh boy- are you ever RIGHT about THAT!!!
>
> The biggest shocker- and let's be real, having
> Will Smith play the role of James West in the movie
> 'Wild, Wild West'!!! Good... GAWD! :-/
>
> Look... I don't have a prejudiced bone in my
> body, seriously, but a black man playing James
> West, a member of the U.S. Secret Service, in
> post Civil War America. SHEESH! I mean... I
> like Will Smith as much as the next guy. He's
> incredibly bright, raps very well, has a fantas-
> tic sense of humor, is a wonderful actor, is
> quick-witted nearly to the point of genius- BUT-
> he has no cause to be featured in the role of
> James West. WAY off base!
>
> From what I know of history and the bigotries
> prevalent of the time, it just couldn't happen.
> No friggin' way! And I don't care if it is 'sci-
> ence fiction', as much as it was. And I'm not
> going to accept the excuse that it's an 'alter-
> nate reality'. Unreal is what it is. It just
> plain didn't work for me at all, AND... I had
> black friends and coworkers who bitched about
> the whole idea a lot louder than I did. It's
> no different that if a black man played the
> role of Julius Ceasar, Abraham Lincoln, or
> Donald Trump! Hey... I'm all for racial equality
> and cultural cross-overs into any entertainment
> medium, and visa versa- with a tip 'o the hat to
> Vanilla Ice and Eminem- but there are just some
> roles that must historically be played by 'white'
> actors.
>
> And I don't care if this view is politically
> correct- or not. Some things just don't make any
> sense at all to me, especially when it comes to
> a topic such as this, simply because I cannot ig-
> nore such major divergences from what is established
> as clear document fact. It just isn't right, and
> I'm not gonna swallow it. And I hope that Holly-
> wood wises up- SOON! Good gracious :-/
>
> ~ Jon Rich
>

> Another thing we can kick sand at the "Wild, Wild West" movie for
> is that Warners decided to to do that instead of Burton's "Superman".
> If they had done "Superman", Burton probably wouldn't have done
> "Planet of the Apes". Not that Fox would've picked someone better, but
> things might have turned out different. - - - Jeff

>6. Can of Worms...
> Posted by: "thadesdarlinghuman" thadesdarlinghuman@...
> thadesdarlinghuman
> Date: Fri Jan 5, 2007 2:41 am ((PST))
>
> Wow, where did the Wild West step in!!!???
> Leo Davidson (in my imagination) is dead on his face and can rot
>under the sun...
> Where's that blunt when ya need it when Ape's jump to WWW?
> For Christ's sake wake up and do some serious writing of your
>own if you know what you want. I'm tired of all the belly aching...
> This is like a bitch session more than a place to discuss the
>movies.....(Damn!)
> If this can of worms is open do something about it then!
> It sounds like there are a few out here who have some clout so
>why don't you push it?!
> Stop bitching and make it happen the way you want it to.........
> Like I said: stop living in the past and face it --- The series
>was awful but the movies ( at least the first three) were terrific...
> GO FROM THERE... DON'T DO A REMAKE ( classics never remake
>well)...
> My hair stands on end...
> Where do you need help...
> Once upon a time...???
> Long ago in a Galaxy far far away is already spoken for.
> Open a new page folks!
> Take a quip from those cheesy comics and run with it! Who's
>gonna stop you?
> As long as it's original you have no reins to pull you back!
> Vented and thankful,
> Thade's Darling Human

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> Alright, this time you've just lost me. I have NO idea what
you're
> even saying here, so I can't respond. Who are you addressing your
> "venting" to? And what you are you upset about? And who are you
> saying is bitching and belly aching and needs to wake up? Surely
no
> one here. So who? And what is the can of worms you
> mention? Honestly, I just can't follow you. Sorry.
>
>
> >6. Can of Worms...
> > Posted by: "thadesdarlinghuman" thadesdarlinghuman@...
> > thadesdarlinghuman
> > Date: Fri Jan 5, 2007 2:41 am ((PST))
> >
> > Wow, where did the Wild West step in!!!???
> > Leo Davidson (in my imagination) is dead on his face and
can rot
> >under the sun...
> > Where's that blunt when ya need it when Ape's jump to WWW?
> > For Christ's sake wake up and do some serious writing of
your
> >own if you know what you want. I'm tired of all the belly
aching...
> > This is like a bitch session more than a place to discuss
the
> >movies.....(Damn!)
> > If this can of worms is open do something about it then!
> > It sounds like there are a few out here who have some clout
so
> >why don't you push it?!
> > Stop bitching and make it happen the way you want it
to.........
> > Like I said: stop living in the past and face it --- The
series
> >was awful but the movies ( at least the first three) were
terrific...
> > GO FROM THERE... DON'T DO A REMAKE ( classics never remake
> >well)...
> > My hair stands on end...
> > Where do you need help...
> > Once upon a time...???
> > Long ago in a Galaxy far far away is already spoken for.
> > Open a new page folks!
> > Take a quip from those cheesy comics and run with it! Who's
> >gonna stop you?
> > As long as it's original you have no reins to pull you back!
> > Vented and thankful,
> > Thade's Darling Human
>

>
> <So then... she was
> also perhaps expected to serve as sexual companionship,
> sexual relief, a sexual plaything- one may argue, but
> certainly a mission role that the three males would
> argue is without question an important one, yes, most
> certainly for them. And true, again, Stewart benefits
> as well, with three strong male protectors- in the role
> of husbands very much seeing to her care, providing for
> her, one and all.>
>

>
> A trend that continued in the tv show: the only females of

>
> Kass

> <So then... she was
> also perhaps expected to serve as sexual
> companionship,
> sexual relief, a sexual plaything- one may argue,
> but
> certainly a mission role that the three males would
> argue is without question an important one, yes,
> most
> certainly for them. And true, again, Stewart
> benefits
> as well, with three strong male protectors- in the
> role
> of husbands very much seeing to her care, providing
> for
> her, one and all.>
>
> +++ Stewart was a throw-away character and I don't
> think she was given two thoughts when written.
>
> I guess the guys could have done without Stewart
> (and did - replaced her with a pretty half naked
> woman who couldn't speak).
> So.. what do they normally do when women aren't
> available?
> Can you say "Oz"?
>
> A trend that continued in the tv show: the only
> females of interest (to me, obviously for different
> reasons) were the female apes.
>
> Kass
>

>
> <So then... she was
> also perhaps expected to serve as sexual companionship,
> sexual relief, a sexual plaything- one may argue, but
> certainly a mission role that the three males would
> argue is without question an important one, yes, most
> certainly for them. And true, again, Stewart benefits
> as well, with three strong male protectors- in the role
> of husbands very much seeing to her care, providing for
> her, one and all.>
>
> +++ Stewart was a throw-away character and I don't think she was

>
> I guess the guys could have done without Stewart (and did -

> So.. what do they normally do when women aren't available?
> Can you say "Oz"?
>
> A trend that continued in the tv show: the only females of

>
> Kass
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> I agree totally with Kass--it's deplorable to just see women as sex
> objects. It was unecessary to have the women in such scanty,
> revealing costumes. Women deserve respect and have brains too.Hang
> on, I had a funny five minutes there.Must have been the thought of
> all those semi-nude hotties who can't talk.John, Scrolls.
> >
> > <So then... she was
> > also perhaps expected to serve as sexual companionship,
> > sexual relief, a sexual plaything- one may argue, but
> > certainly a mission role that the three males would
> > argue is without question an important one, yes, most
> > certainly for them. And true, again, Stewart benefits
> > as well, with three strong male protectors- in the role
> > of husbands very much seeing to her care, providing for
> > her, one and all.>
> >
> > +++ Stewart was a throw-away character and I don't think she
was
> given two thoughts when written.
> >
> > I guess the guys could have done without Stewart (and did -
> replaced her with a pretty half naked woman who couldn't speak).
> > So.. what do they normally do when women aren't available?
> > Can you say "Oz"?
> >
> > A trend that continued in the tv show: the only females of
> interest (to me, obviously for different reasons) were the female
> apes.
> >
> > Kass
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mighty Phabox <captain_phabox@...> wrote:
>
> M'mmmm.... A Pretty Half Naked Woman who CAN'T SPEAK !
>
> -Who could ask for more ???
>
> -Captain P
>
>
>
>
> --- Kassidy <valwp@...> wrote:
>
> > <So then... she was
> > also perhaps expected to serve as sexual
> > companionship,
> > sexual relief, a sexual plaything- one may argue,
> > but
> > certainly a mission role that the three males would
> > argue is without question an important one, yes,
> > most
> > certainly for them. And true, again, Stewart
> > benefits
> > as well, with three strong male protectors- in the
> > role
> > of husbands very much seeing to her care, providing
> > for
> > her, one and all.>
> >
> > +++ Stewart was a throw-away character and I don't
> > think she was given two thoughts when written.
> >
> > I guess the guys could have done without Stewart
> > (and did - replaced her with a pretty half naked
> > woman who couldn't speak).
> > So.. what do they normally do when women aren't
> > available?
> > Can you say "Oz"?
> >
> > A trend that continued in the tv show: the only
> > females of interest (to me, obviously for different
> > reasons) were the female apes.
> >
> > Kass
> >
>
>
>

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>
> Another thing we can kick sand at the "Wild,
> Wild West" movie for is that Warner's decided
> to do that instead of Burton's "Superman".
> If they had done "Superman", Burton probably
> wouldn't have done "Planet of the Apes". Not
> that Fox would've picked someone better, but
> things might have turned out different.
> - Jeff

>
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>
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mighty Phabox <captain_phabox@...> wrote:
>
> M'mmmm.... A Pretty Half Naked Woman who CAN'T SPEAK !
>
> -Who could ask for more ???
>
> -Captain P
>
>
>
>
> --- Kassidy <valwp@...> wrote:
>
> > <So then... she was
> > also perhaps expected to serve as sexual
> > companionship,
> > sexual relief, a sexual plaything- one may argue,
> > but
> > certainly a mission role that the three males would
> > argue is without question an important one, yes,
> > most
> > certainly for them. And true, again, Stewart
> > benefits
> > as well, with three strong male protectors- in the
> > role
> > of husbands very much seeing to her care, providing
> > for
> > her, one and all.>
> >
> > +++ Stewart was a throw-away character and I don't
> > think she was given two thoughts when written.
> >
> > I guess the guys could have done without Stewart
> > (and did - replaced her with a pretty half naked
> > woman who couldn't speak).
> > So.. what do they normally do when women aren't
> > available?
> > Can you say "Oz"?
> >
> > A trend that continued in the tv show: the only
> > females of interest (to me, obviously for different
> > reasons) were the female apes.
> >
> > Kass
> >
>
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kassidy <valwp@...> wrote:
>
> <So then... she was
> also perhaps expected to serve as sexual companionship,
> sexual relief, a sexual plaything- one may argue, but
> certainly a mission role that the three males would
> argue is without question an important one, yes, most
> certainly for them. And true, again, Stewart benefits
> as well, with three strong male protectors- in the role
> of husbands very much seeing to her care, providing for
> her, one and all.>
>
> +++ Stewart was a throw-away character and I don't think she was
given two thoughts when written.
>
> I guess the guys could have done without Stewart (and did -
replaced her with a pretty half naked woman who couldn't speak).
> So.. what do they normally do when women aren't available?
> Can you say "Oz"?
>
> A trend that continued in the tv show: the only females of
interest (to me, obviously for different reasons) were the female
apes.
>
> Kass
>

>
>
> In a message dated 1/4/2007 8:42:55 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> phil_harmonik2005@... writes:
>
> ~ Jon Rich
>
> Do you have any relatives name Patrick?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> That's one of the all time problems in Hollywood, and gripes from
> women actors...Not enough female parts written...Aside from "break-
> out" roles, of a sorts, like Sarah Connor, Ripley and Lara Croft,
> they just don't write for/buy scripts with "action women"...It's a
> crying shame, if you ask me...For example, I thought Lara Croft was
> far more interesting than Indiana Jones, but then, maybe I'm
> biased...=)
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kassidy <valwp@> wrote:
> >
> > <So then... she was
> > also perhaps expected to serve as sexual companionship,
> > sexual relief, a sexual plaything- one may argue, but
> > certainly a mission role that the three males would
> > argue is without question an important one, yes, most
> > certainly for them. And true, again, Stewart benefits
> > as well, with three strong male protectors- in the role
> > of husbands very much seeing to her care, providing for
> > her, one and all.>
> >
> > +++ Stewart was a throw-away character and I don't think she
was
> given two thoughts when written.
> >
> > I guess the guys could have done without Stewart (and did -
> replaced her with a pretty half naked woman who couldn't speak).
> > So.. what do they normally do when women aren't available?
> > Can you say "Oz"?
> >
> > A trend that continued in the tv show: the only females of
> interest (to me, obviously for different reasons) were the female
> apes.
> >
> > Kass
> >
>

>
> Alright, this time you've just lost me. I have
> NO idea what you're even saying here, so I can't
> respond. Who are you addressing your "venting"
> to? And what you are you upset about? And who
> are you saying is bitching and belly aching and
> needs to wake up? Surely no one here. So who?
> And what is the can of worms you mention? Ho-
> nestly, I just can't follow you. Sorry.

>
> Who could ask for more? Well, I might ask for
> some pretty MEN WHO CAN'T SPEAK, but then that
> would block their anuses.
>
> Damn, anuses. What a word. John has multiples,
> so Dave tells me. *shrug*
>
> Kass

>
> Rich, I just thought it was some code or some-
> thing that could only be understood if you
> bought the right cereal decoder ring. Either
> that or the nurse at the reception desk keeps
> leaving the computer unattended...
> Brendan.

>
> M'mmmm.... A Pretty Half Naked Woman who CAN'T SPEAK !
>
> -Who could ask for more ???
>
> -Captain P

>
> <So then... she was
> also perhaps expected to serve as sexual companionship,
> sexual relief, a sexual plaything- one may argue, but
> certainly a mission role that the three males would
> argue is without question an important one, yes, most
> certainly for them. And true, again, Stewart benefits
> as well, with three strong male protectors- in the role
> of husbands very much seeing to her care, providing for
> her, one and all.>
>
> +++ Stewart was a throw-away character and
> I don't think she was given two thoughts when
> written.

> I guess the guys could have done without
> Stewart (and did - replaced her with a pret-
> ty half naked woman who couldn't speak).

> So.. what do they normally do when women
> aren't available? Can you say "Oz"?

> A trend that continued in the tv show: the
> only females of interest (to me, obviously
> for different reasons) were the female apes.

> Kass

>
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kassidy <valwp@> wrote:
> > >
> > > <So then... she was also perhaps expected
> > > to serve as sexual companionship, sexual re-
> > > lief, a sexual plaything- one may argue, but
> > > certainly a mission role that the three males
> > > would argue is without question an important
> > > one, yes, most certainly for them. And true,
> > > again, Stewart benefits as well, with three
> > > strong male protectors- in the role of hus-
> > > bands very much seeing to her care, provid-
> > > ing for her, one and all.>
> >
> > A trend that continued in the tv show: the
> > only females of interest (to me, obviously
> > for different reasons) were the female apes.
> >
> > Kass
>
> I tend to also feel that the character of Stewart
> was just treated as a chauvinistic throw-away. In
> another era she may well have been a fully inclu-
> sive character. How would the film have been with
> Taylor and Stewart as the Humans against all Apedom?

> I would have loved to see her as a survivor for
> the first part of the film at least. Landon or
> Dodge could have died before the crash.

> But, the times were different when the film
> was made and equal time for all was not yet
> a reality. I have the ability to aprreciate
> a work from the Time it was produced. I do
> not agree with attempts to retro fit to make
> things more palatable for the PC police. If
> a film was produced now, I would whole hear-
> tedly accept the lead as a fully realized
> person, be they female or male. My only re-
> quest is that if the Lead was Female, that
> she not be just a gender role reversal. By
> that I mean, a character who behaves like
> the old style chauvinistic male. Good Char-
> acters are just that.
> - Brendan.

>
>
>
> I tend to also feel that the character of Stewart was just treated
> as a chauvinistic throw-away. In another era she may well have been
> a fully inclusive character.

>
> IMO The only dramatic purpose that Stewart served was to give the
> audience a visual shock early in the film as well as to show just

> long the astronauts had been in flight.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@...> wrote:
>
> I'll go along with Sarah Connor (can we say schitzophrenic in T2?
> Loved that) and Ripley, sure. But yeah, Glen, about that Lara
Croft
> v. Indiana, yeah, you might be a *little* biased;)
>
> Kass
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > That's one of the all time problems in Hollywood, and gripes
from
> > women actors...Not enough female parts written...Aside
from "break-
> > out" roles, of a sorts, like Sarah Connor, Ripley and Lara
Croft,
> > they just don't write for/buy scripts with "action women"...It's
a
> > crying shame, if you ask me...For example, I thought Lara Croft
was
> > far more interesting than Indiana Jones, but then, maybe I'm
> > biased...=)
> >
> > G

>
> And why am I a member of this group again?
>
> Kass
>

>
>
> James, I thought we couldn't decide how long they were in flight?

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>
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>
> On a related note. From memory, I read somewhere
> that the person who played Stewart as a corpse
> was an elderly woman. Anyone else heard or read
> this?
> Brendan

>
> Sarah Connor and Ripley are definite picks for
> strong and well portrayed characters. Lara Croft.
> No way. Wonder Woman could eat her for breakfast.
> Wait a minute. Now there's a film in there some-
> where....
> Brendan.

>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "brendan486" <nzape@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > James, I thought we couldn't decide how long they were in

>
> Why couldn't we? All the things you mentioned plus Stewart's

> corpse seem to me to be dramatic devices to show that they has

> flight for a long time.
>

>
> But yeah, Sarah Conner (Linda Hamilton) would have
> been great in a full and active 'Stewart' role, or
> could have played a good female 'Taylor' :-)
>
> And did you know she has a twin sister? :-)
>
> ~ Jon
>

> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James"
> <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "brendan486" <nzape@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > James, I thought we couldn't decide how long
> they were in
> flight?
> >
> > Why couldn't we? All the things you mentioned plus
> Stewart's
> mummified
> > corpse seem to me to be dramatic devices to show
> that they has
> been in
> > flight for a long time.
> >
>
> Yes, except there was no hair growth on the head.No
> fingernail
> growth.I agree that the intent was to display a long
> flight.But how
> long?
> I tend to think it was no more than a couple of
> months at most or
> probably actually only a few days.
> Since they had Suspended animation capabilities and
> if we assume the
> mission was to another Star (not sure if this is the
> mission) then
> they would minimise the strain on life support
> systems.
> So they didn't spend many months or years awake in
> flight.
> So why is Stewart mummified?
> Dramatic licence of course, but any other
> explanation?
> Did her makeup react badly to the sun lamp in the
> Cryo chamber?
> Was she Mutton dressed up as Lamb?
> Did her Nip and Tucks meet gravity?
>
> Who will lose sleep over this?
>
> Brendan.
>
>

>
> I Seem to recall a scene where Taylor is discusing
> Stewart's death with Langdon and says its a bit late
> for a wake as she's been dead 'over a year' so that
> gives some idea how long they were in space.
>
> -Captain P
>

>
> No kidding- with all of those Human females
> around, I cannot believe that neither of those
> two Tv POTA astronauts struck up a meaningful
> relationship with ANY human female. They may
> have perhaps been gay, if the series is any
> indication at all. IF... the series proves
> anything relative to that. But it is odd
> that neither took a Human as girlfriend os as
> a mate or spouse. Strange.
>
> > Kass
>
> ~ Jon Rich
>

>
> I Seem to recall a scene where Taylor is discusing
> Stewart's death with Langdon and says its a bit late
> for a wake as she's been dead 'over a year' so that
> gives some idea how long they were in space.
>
> -Captain P

>
> > But yeah, Sarah Conner (Linda Hamilton) would have
> > been great in a full and active 'Stewart' role, or
> > could have played a good female 'Taylor' :-)
> >
> > And did you know she has a twin sister? :-)
> >
> > ~ Jon
>
> It's not Danny De Vito is it?
> Brendan

>
> +++well, the thing is, the human women are written
> as infantile. (And you gotta love that halo light-
> ing effect that showed up on the pretty girls,
> Sondra Locke being one example - ugh, she's not a
> favorite of mine). But to be fair, while there
> *were* interesting human males as guest stars,
> there weren't many. Humans, even though they could
> talk in the series, were limited.
>
> And we *did* have interesting females at least
> guest-starring on the show: the apes. Wanda and
> Carsia are two of my favorites. Of course I love
> a good villain:)
>
> As far as the astronauts not being interested in
> women, well... they weren't going to show purely
> sexual couplings, not on this show at this time.
> There'd need to be a reason for them to be attrac-
> ted, like some intellect, some moral fiber com-
> bined with some innate goodness, wouldn't there,
> along with being attractive. I don't think at the
> time they could have ever showed Alan being unfaith-
> ful without a lot of condemnation. There was one
> time when he showed interest: with Amy. Half the
> time it felt like a fatherly interest and the rest
> of the time ... not so much. Kind of uggy. He missed
> his family - he wanted to be faithful - but at some
> point you'd think he'd realize he's just not going
> home.
>
> Now Burke could have played. If the show had stayed
> on the air, I'm betting he would have an episode or
> two centered on just that - a woman who meets the
> requirements and then who dies tragically in the end.
> Remembering the times, that'd be my guess.
>
> Kass

> And more to a point, as far as I know, the only
> time her own sister was seen in a movie release,
> was in Terminator II. There was a scene, cut from
> the original theatre release,

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@...> wrote:
>
> I'll go along with Sarah Connor (can we say schitzophrenic in T2?
> Loved that) and Ripley, sure. But yeah, Glen, about that Lara Croft
> v. Indiana, yeah, you might be a *little* biased;)
>
> Kass
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > That's one of the all time problems in Hollywood, and gripes from
> > women actors...Not enough female parts written...Aside
from "break-
> > out" roles, of a sorts, like Sarah Connor, Ripley and Lara Croft,
> > they just don't write for/buy scripts with "action women"...It's
a
> > crying shame, if you ask me...For example, I thought Lara Croft
was
> > far more interesting than Indiana Jones, but then, maybe I'm
> > biased...=)
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kassidy <valwp@> wrote:
> > >
> > > <So then... she was
> > > also perhaps expected to serve as sexual companionship,
> > > sexual relief, a sexual plaything- one may argue, but
> > > certainly a mission role that the three males would
> > > argue is without question an important one, yes, most
> > > certainly for them. And true, again, Stewart benefits
> > > as well, with three strong male protectors- in the role
> > > of husbands very much seeing to her care, providing for
> > > her, one and all.>
> > >
> > > +++ Stewart was a throw-away character and I don't think she
> was
> > given two thoughts when written.
> > >
> > > I guess the guys could have done without Stewart (and did -
> > replaced her with a pretty half naked woman who couldn't speak).
> > > So.. what do they normally do when women aren't available?
> > > Can you say "Oz"?
> > >
> > > A trend that continued in the tv show: the only females of
> > interest (to me, obviously for different reasons) were the female
> > apes.
> > >
> > > Kass
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@... wrote:
>
> Happy Belated New Year to everyone! May simians rule this year! Elaine
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan" <phil_harmonik2005@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "brendan486" <nzape@> wrote:
> >
> > On a related note. From memory, I read somewhere
> > that the person who played Stewart as a corpse
> > was an elderly woman. Anyone else heard or read
> > this?
> > Brendan
>
> Wow... that's an excellent question! :-)
> Was it a 'mummy' prop, or an old woman??? If
> the latter- what was her name!?! Just curious.
>
> ~ Jon
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "brendan486" <nzape@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mighty Phabox <captain_phabox@> wrote:
> >
> > I Seem to recall a scene where Taylor is discusing
> > Stewart's death with Langdon and says its a bit late
> > for a wake as she's been dead 'over a year' so that
> > gives some idea how long they were in space.
> >
> > -Captain P
> >
>
>
> Yeah, I think you are right.
> Guess the inconsistencies in grooming are nothing more than a Feck up
> then.
> Brendan.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > And more to a point, as far as I know, the only
> > time her own sister was seen in a movie release,
> > was in Terminator II. There was a scene, cut from
> > the original theatre release,
>
> Linda's sister can be scene in Terminator II in the scene near the
> end where the T-1000 is imitatating Sarah and the real Sarah appears
> behind it. The real Sarah (in the background of the shot) is Linda's
> sister.
>
> On an semi-related note, I read recently that "Beauty and the Beast"
> is being released on DVD soon, though I'm too lazy to go look up when.
>
> Hunter
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan" <phil_harmonik2005@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "brendan486" <nzape@> wrote:
> >
> > > But yeah, Sarah Conner (Linda Hamilton) would have
> > > been great in a full and active 'Stewart' role, or
> > > could have played a good female 'Taylor' :-)
> > >
> > > And did you know she has a twin sister? :-)
> > >
> > > ~ Jon
> >
> > It's not Danny De Vito is it?
> > Brendan
>
> LOL! :-D Oh... hell no :-] They aren't those
> kinds of 'Twins'.
>
> And more to a point, as far as I know, the only
> time her own sister was seen in a movie release,
> was in Terminator II. There was a scene, cut from
> the original theatre release, but included on the
> DVD special edition, where Sarah Conner with her
> son, opens up the Terminator's head, in that filling
> station garage where they stopped to rest. They
> were looking into a mirror as she opened his head
> to take a look at the chip that drove him and his
> actions. The mirror wasn't a mirror, but the movie
> set duplicated on the other side of the wall to
> simulate the mirror effect. The real Schwarzenegger
> and Linda Hamilton's sister were 'in the mirror' on
> the far side, while Linda herself and the Terminator
> dummy prop, with opened head, was on the 'real life'
> near side. It took quite a bit of actor and camera
> coordination and timing to pull it off right, and
> it worked beautifully. Odd though that they cut
> that scene in the original theatre release after
> all of the trouble they went to, to create that
> marvelous scene :-)
>
> Movie trivia- gotta love it :-)
>
> ~ Jon
>

> Linda's sister can be scene in Terminator II in the scene near the

>
> > And more to a point, as far as I know, the only
> > time her own sister was seen in a movie release,
> > was in Terminator II. There was a scene, cut from
> > the original theatre release,
>
> Linda's sister can be scene in Terminator II
> in the scene near the end where the T-1000 is
> imitatating Sarah and the real Sarah appears
> behind it. The real Sarah (in the background
> of the shot) is Linda's sister.
>
> Hunter

> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan" <phil_harmonik2005@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "brendan486" <nzape@> wrote:
> > >
> > > On a related note. From memory, I read somewhere
> > > that the person who played Stewart as a corpse
> > > was an elderly woman. Anyone else heard or read
> > > this?
> > > Brendan
> >
> > Wow... that's an excellent question! :-)
> > Was it a 'mummy' prop, or an old woman??? If
> > the latter- what was her name!?! Just curious.
> >
> > ~ Jon
>
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> It was an old woman with facial appliances...They wanted her
> physical 'stature' and here aged hands...
>
> G

Great- good feedback, but... what was her name???

~ Jon

>
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan" <phil_harmonik2005@>

> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "brendan486" <nzape@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On a related note. From memory, I read somewhere
> > > > that the person who played Stewart as a corpse
> > > > was an elderly woman. Anyone else heard or read
> > > > this?
> > > > Brendan
> > >
> > > Wow... that's an excellent question! :-)
> > > Was it a 'mummy' prop, or an old woman??? If
> > > the latter- what was her name!?! Just curious.
> > >
> > > ~ Jon
> >
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > It was an old woman with facial appliances...They wanted her
> > physical 'stature' and here aged hands...
> >
> > G
>
> Great- good feedback, but... what was her name???
>
> ~ Jon

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "theskulpter" <theskulpter@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all Ape fans , I just posted some photos in the photos section of
> the new General Ursus sculpt I did with a new sculpted Helmet. I will
> try to get real clear shots soon,but these pics are pretty cool,so I
> figured you guys cam all get a good idea of what it looks like. I
> copied off of some real good Ursus photos. Ursus has a bigger nose
than
> Urko,so I tried to capture that,as well as his other original
features.
> Ok Happy new year to all Apes.I may do a Cornelius or Ceasar next .
The
> FARROW.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "brendan486" <nzape@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan" <phil_harmonik2005@>
> wrote:
> >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan" <phil_harmonik2005@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "brendan486" <nzape@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On a related note. From memory, I read somewhere
> > > > > that the person who played Stewart as a corpse
> > > > > was an elderly woman. Anyone else heard or read
> > > > > this?
> > > > > Brendan
> > > >
> > > > Wow... that's an excellent question! :-)
> > > > Was it a 'mummy' prop, or an old woman??? If
> > > > the latter- what was her name!?! Just curious.
> > > >
> > > > ~ Jon
> > >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It was an old woman with facial appliances...They wanted her
> > > physical 'stature' and here aged hands...
> > >
> > > G
> >
> > Great- good feedback, but... what was her name???
> >
> > ~ Jon
>
>
> Joan Rivers!!!!
> Brendan
>

>
> Hi all Ape fans , I just posted some photos in
> the photos section of the new General Ursus
> sculpt I did with a new sculpted Helmet. I will
> try to get real clear shots soon,but these pics
> are pretty cool, so I figured you guys cam all
> get a good idea of what it looks like. I copied
> off of some real good Ursus photos. Ursus has a
> bigger nose than Urko,so I tried to capture that,
> as well as his other original features. Ok Happy
> new year to all Apes.I may do a Cornelius or
> Ceasar next.
>
> The FARROW.

>
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It was an old woman with facial appliances...They
> > > wanted her physical 'stature' and here aged hands...
> > >
> > > G
> >
> > Great- good feedback, but... what was her name???
> >
> > ~ Jon
>
> Joan Rivers!!!!
> Brendan

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "theskulpter" <theskulpter@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all Ape fans , I just posted some photos in the photos section of
> the new General Ursus sculpt I did with a new sculpted Helmet. I will
> try to get real clear shots soon,but these pics are pretty cool,so I
> figured you guys cam all get a good idea of what it looks like. I
> copied off of some real good Ursus photos. Ursus has a bigger nose
than
> Urko,so I tried to capture that,as well as his other original
features.
> Ok Happy new year to all Apes.I may do a Cornelius or Ceasar next .
The
> FARROW.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <p3murds@...> wrote:
>
> I thought it was Phylis Diller? ~Paul in Seattle
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "brendan486" <nzape@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan" <phil_harmonik2005@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan" <phil_harmonik2005@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "brendan486" <nzape@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On a related note. From memory, I read somewhere
> > > > > > that the person who played Stewart as a corpse
> > > > > > was an elderly woman. Anyone else heard or read
> > > > > > this?
> > > > > > Brendan
> > > > >
> > > > > Wow... that's an excellent question! :-)
> > > > > Was it a 'mummy' prop, or an old woman??? If
> > > > > the latter- what was her name!?! Just curious.
> > > > >
> > > > > ~ Jon
> > > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It was an old woman with facial appliances...They wanted her
> > > > physical 'stature' and here aged hands...
> > > >
> > > > G
> > >
> > > Great- good feedback, but... what was her name???
> > >
> > > ~ Jon
> >
> >
> > Joan Rivers!!!!
> > Brendan
> >
>

>
> That's one of the all time problems in Hollywood, and gripes from
> women actors...Not enough female parts written...Aside from "break-
> out" roles, of a sorts, like Sarah Connor, Ripley and Lara Croft,
> they just don't write for/buy scripts with "action women"...It's a
> crying shame, if you ask me...For example, I thought Lara Croft was
> far more interesting than Indiana Jones, but then, maybe I'm
> biased...=)
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kassidy <valwp@> wrote:
> >
> > <So then... she was
> > also perhaps expected to serve as sexual companionship,
> > sexual relief, a sexual plaything- one may argue, but
> > certainly a mission role that the three males would
> > argue is without question an important one, yes, most
> > certainly for them. And true, again, Stewart benefits
> > as well, with three strong male protectors- in the role
> > of husbands very much seeing to her care, providing for
> > her, one and all.>
> >
> > +++ Stewart was a throw-away character and I don't think she

> given two thoughts when written.
> >
> > I guess the guys could have done without Stewart (and did -
> replaced her with a pretty half naked woman who couldn't speak).
> > So.. what do they normally do when women aren't available?
> > Can you say "Oz"?
> >
> > A trend that continued in the tv show: the only females of
> interest (to me, obviously for different reasons) were the female
> apes.
> >
> > Kass
> >
>

>
> <Hmmmm... you make some interesting points. but I
> have to say... let's 'be real'.>
>
> ++You be real - I'm talking about a tv show.
> And even talking reality, instincts *can* be
> ignored. People can and do live without sexual
> relationships. That's what makes us different
> from every other animal, so they say.
>
> At least through 14 episodes, surely;)
>
> Kass

> and all of them doing so
> after professing to adhering to a higher standard than
> the rest of us, supposedly setting the standards for the
> moral high ground. Thay all prove, that under the high-
> est standards with the most to prove, and to lose, that
> 'instincts' and 'drives' and 'biological needs' cannot
> be squelched.

>
> The other odd thing about Stewart is what happened
> to her chair.If, as seems commonly agreed, Zira, Milo
> and Cornelius travelled back in Taylor's ship, the
> lost footage shots look like three chairs in a row,
> not four, and the (same) ship in the tv series only
> has the same three in a row. Doomed to mate with Moses
> and crew, then suffocated and mummified and THEN they
> throw her chair out!? It probably made no difference
> that she was dead on arrival--she'd have drowned be-
> fore she got to the boat. I, personally, think Stewart's
> character was a handy way for Taylor to compare and
> contrast her with Nova.
> John, Scrolls.

>
> > and all of them doing so
> > after professing to adhering to a higher standard than
> > the rest of us, supposedly setting the standards for the
> > moral high ground. They all prove, that under the high-
> > est standards with the most to prove, and to lose, that
> > 'instincts' and 'drives' and 'biological needs' cannot
> > be squelched.
>
> Your logic is bass-ackwards here. All this proves
> is that *some* people give in to their desires,
> regardless of their oaths. There are thousands of
> others who do control them.

>
> Wonderful! I love it! Simply the greatest! Keep it coming!

> Wright
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "theskulpter" <theskulpter@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all Ape fans , I just posted some photos in the photos section

> > the new General Ursus sculpt I did with a new sculpted Helmet. I

> > try to get real clear shots soon,but these pics are pretty

> > figured you guys cam all get a good idea of what it looks like. I
> > copied off of some real good Ursus photos. Ursus has a bigger

> than
> > Urko,so I tried to capture that,as well as his other original
> features.
> > Ok Happy new year to all Apes.I may do a Cornelius or Ceasar

> The
> > FARROW.
> >
>

>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "theskulpter" <theskulpter@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all Ape fans , I just posted some photos in
> > the photos section of the new General Ursus
> > sculpt I did with a new sculpted Helmet. I will
> > try to get real clear shots soon,but these pics
> > are pretty cool, so I figured you guys cam all
> > get a good idea of what it looks like. I copied
> > off of some real good Ursus photos. Ursus has a
> > bigger nose than Urko,so I tried to capture that,
> > as well as his other original features. Ok Happy
> > new year to all Apes.I may do a Cornelius or
> > Ceasar next.
> >
> > The FARROW.
>
> Bloody fantastic work! :-D Here's a banana :-)
>
> Positively excellent, Farrow. You have a
> marvelous talent. Kudos :-)
>
> And I'm very much looking forward to the
> future projects you mentioned :-)
>
> ~ Jon
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@...> wrote:
>
> And why am I a member of this group again?
>
> Kass

>
> OMG!...These are great!...I wish I could afford your work, right
> now...I'd buy every one, and have you do a couple of extras!...Oh,
> well, hopefully I can afford the one we talked about, soon...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "theskulpter" <theskulpter@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all Ape fans , I just posted some photos in the photos section

> > the new General Ursus sculpt I did with a new sculpted Helmet. I

> > try to get real clear shots soon,but these pics are pretty

> > figured you guys cam all get a good idea of what it looks like. I
> > copied off of some real good Ursus photos. Ursus has a bigger

> than
> > Urko,so I tried to capture that,as well as his other original
> features.
> > Ok Happy new year to all Apes.I may do a Cornelius or Ceasar

> The
> > FARROW.
> >
>

> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com
> wrote:
> >
> > File : /MP.jpg
> > Uploaded by : smugster2000 <smugster2000@...>
> > Description : Monkey Planet-ski! - Jacket for
> the Russian language version of Boulle's book.
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MP.jpg
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > smugster2000 <smugster2000@...>
>
> Now this MP book cover image is positively
> fascinating :-) I love it :-)
>
> And to me it's rather obvious that the artist
> was himself Russian, judging from the style of
> the spacecraft and Ape clothing. Yes- very well
> done :-)
>
> And notable... the Gorilla on the lower right,
> holding a Human down with his foot... is holding
> down a naked Human. One completely nude.
>
> I myself have always maintained... that if it
> weren't for the Hollywood censorship laws in place,
> the Humans in POTA, being so animal-like, would
> have been naturally nude. It makes sense from many
> angles. Just imagine how nice that would have been
> :-) And instead of Zira asking, "Where was the one
> that was wearing the 'strange' clothes?" she would
> have asked, "Where is the one what was wearing
> clothes?" Such would have has an effect on the
> character dialog, for certain.
>
> ~ Jon
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
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>
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>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> Because of the respect you get from all of us...
>
> "There once was a lady named Kass,
> Who's fetish was James Naughton's ass.
> By the TV she'd drool,
> N'though she looked quite the fool,
> Her husband would smile as he passed..." =)
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@> wrote:
> >
> > And why am I a member of this group again?
> >
> > Kass
>

>
> Glen, you know I'm fond of you. Or was. But really, such bad

> AND you called me a fool?
>
> John. Just shut your yapper.
>
> Kass
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > Because of the respect you get from all of us...
> >
> > "There once was a lady named Kass,
> > Who's fetish was James Naughton's ass.
> > By the TV she'd drool,
> > N'though she looked quite the fool,
> > Her husband would smile as he passed..." =)
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@> wrote:
> > >
> > > And why am I a member of this group again?
> > >
> > > Kass
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> See, that's why I'm on this Group--it's the respect and courtesy
that
> I get.Can I just say how in awe of Glen I am in having the courage
to
> call Kass a fool.He will be remembered fondly by us all and I think
> we should have a collection for his family and loved ones.Any
scraps
> of his body found should be sent to James for re-assembly and
burial,
> care of this Group.John, Scrolls.
> >
> > Glen, you know I'm fond of you. Or was. But really, such bad
> poetry,
> > AND you called me a fool?
> >
> > John. Just shut your yapper.
> >
> > Kass
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Because of the respect you get from all of us...
> > >
> > > "There once was a lady named Kass,
> > > Who's fetish was James Naughton's ass.
> > > By the TV she'd drool,
> > > N'though she looked quite the fool,
> > > Her husband would smile as he passed..." =)
> > >
> > > G
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And why am I a member of this group again?
> > > >
> > > > Kass
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> See, that's why I'm on this Group--it's the respect and courtesy
that
> I get.Can I just say how in awe of Glen I am in having the courage
to
> call Kass a fool.He will be remembered fondly by us all and I think
> we should have a collection for his family and loved ones.Any
scraps
> of his body found should be sent to James for re-assembly and
burial,
> care of this Group.John, Scrolls.
> >
> > Glen, you know I'm fond of you. Or was. But really, such bad
> poetry,
> > AND you called me a fool?
> >
> > John. Just shut your yapper.
> >
> > Kass
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Because of the respect you get from all of us...
> > >
> > > "There once was a lady named Kass,
> > > Who's fetish was James Naughton's ass.
> > > By the TV she'd drool,
> > > N'though she looked quite the fool,
> > > Her husband would smile as he passed..." =)
> > >
> > > G
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And why am I a member of this group again?
> > > >
> > > > Kass
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@...> wrote:
>
> Glen, you know I'm fond of you. Or was. But really, such bad
poetry,
> AND you called me a fool?
>
> John. Just shut your yapper.
>
> Kass
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > Because of the respect you get from all of us...
> >
> > "There once was a lady named Kass,
> > Who's fetish was James Naughton's ass.
> > By the TV she'd drool,
> > N'though she looked quite the fool,
> > Her husband would smile as he passed..." =)
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@> wrote:
> > >
> > > And why am I a member of this group again?
> > >
> > > Kass
> >
>