Nice work, Vin!...Thanks for letting us know...Have you thought of
downloading any of your superb images into the Files, here?...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "0" <vscimone@...> wrote:
>
>
> The web master over at ANSANAUT "The Last Flight of the Icarus" web
site
> has been gracious enough to host some of my CGI renders of Taylor's
> Command Module. If you're interested, head on over to ANSANAUT
> <http://www.goingfaster.com/icarus/tableofcontents.html"> . This is a
> great web site to peruse if you haven't seen it already. My
submission
> is in the Art Gallery. Best, Vin
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:

>
> I don't believe human hide, even hairy, could account for the pieces
> needed as saddle-works or the "scarecrow" pieces

I agree, it's a good idea though. (that's 'good' in the same sense as
the idea of a stuffed Dodge).

Dave

> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "0" <vscimone@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The web master over at ANSANAUT "The Last Flight of the Icarus" web
> site
> > has been gracious enough to host some of my CGI renders of Taylor's
> > Command Module.

Hi Vin,

I saw these about a week ago and didn't make the connection
that you were the artist.

These images are in equal measure both astonishing and superb! Bravo,
sir! Is 3D modelling and rendering a hobby or an extension of your job?

Is there any chance of some hi-res versions? I would love to have a
good quality printout to hang on the wall.

Dave

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>>No one ever said Murray said he didn't want to reprise the role

while they were filming Conquest. When they filmed Conquest it was assumed to be the last of the series so the subject of anyone reprising their roles probably never came up. Frank Capra said that the decision to kill Armando was based on them thinking it was the last film. <<

>>They had plans for BATTLE to be made while shooting CONQUET, and

while he was apparently offered Breck in the last one, he didn't want
to do it, so they killed him off in the movie... <<<.html

Damn! Glen must be drinking again;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> Actually, I was going by what Glen had mentioned (see below).
Always knew
> that guy was a bit shifty.
>
> Glen, you lousy human... contributor to a mailing list!!! :-)
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> >>No one ever said Murray said he didn't want to reprise the role
while
> they were filming Conquest. When they filmed Conquest it was
assumed to
> be the last of the series so the subject of anyone reprising their
roles
> probably never came up. Frank Capra said that the decision to kill
> Armando was based on them thinking it was the last film. <<
>
>
> "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> >>They had plans for BATTLE to be made while shooting CONQUET, and
> while he was apparently offered Breck in the last one, he didn't
want
> to do it, so they killed him off in the movie... <<
>

This morning our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and friends of Roscoe Lee Browne who died yesterday at the age of 81. Mr. Browne appeared on the PLANET OF THE APES TV Series in the episode 'Tomorrow's Tide'. He will be missed.

We are also saddened by the death of author Kurt Vonnegut. Although he had nothing to do with POTA, Vonnegut was a great writer and his death is a loss to our culture.

 

> This morning our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and friends
> of Roscoe Lee Browne who died yesterday at the age of 81. Mr. Browne
> appeared on the PLANET OF THE APES TV Series in the episode 'Tomorrow's
> Tide'. He will be missed.

And, of course, Box in LOGAN'S RUN (the movie).

> has been gracious enough to host some of my CGI renders of Taylor's
> Command Module. If you're interested, head on over to ANSANAUT

Amazing!

Safe journey Roscoe---may you avoid nets and find Sanctuary
safely.You're sadly missed. John, Scrolls.

>
>
> This morning our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and friends
> of Roscoe Lee Browne who died yesterday at the age of 81. Mr. Browne
> appeared on the PLANET OF THE APES TV Series in the

episode 'Tomorrow's

> Tide'. He will be missed.
>
> We are also saddened by the death of author Kurt Vonnegut. Although he
> had nothing to do with POTA, Vonnegut was a great writer and his death
> is a loss to our culture.
>

Imbibing!...

Seriously, I believe I read somewhere, years ago when my hair had
natural color in it, that they were toying with the idea of a last
film or a TV show...Don Murray made it known that he didn't want to
be connected with Apes beyond CONQUEST...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> Damn! Glen must be drinking again;-)
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@> wrote:
> >
> > Actually, I was going by what Glen had mentioned (see below).
> Always knew
> > that guy was a bit shifty.
> >
> > Glen, you lousy human... contributor to a mailing list!!! :-)
> >
> >
> > Chris L.
> >
> >
> >
> > "James" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> > >>No one ever said Murray said he didn't want to reprise the role
> while
> > they were filming Conquest. When they filmed Conquest it was
> assumed to
> > be the last of the series so the subject of anyone reprising
their
> roles
> > probably never came up. Frank Capra said that the decision to kill
> > Armando was based on them thinking it was the last film. <<
> >
> >
> > "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > >>They had plans for BATTLE to be made while shooting CONQUET,
and
> > while he was apparently offered Breck in the last one, he didn't
> want
> > to do it, so they killed him off in the movie... <<
> >
>

I can't remember anything Roscoe Lee Browne performed in that I didn't
enjoy -- from "Logan's Run" all the way to "All in the Family"...I met
him once, and he was a perfect gentleman...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> This morning our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and friends
> of Roscoe Lee Browne who died yesterday at the age of 81. Mr. Browne
> appeared on the PLANET OF THE APES TV Series in the
episode 'Tomorrow's
> Tide'. He will be missed.
>
> We are also saddened by the death of author Kurt Vonnegut. Although he
> had nothing to do with POTA, Vonnegut was a great writer and his death
> is a loss to our culture.
>

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.com
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting

POTA- episode #4-Chapter 3

http://www.brokensea.com/pota/pota.htm


Trapped in the unforgiving desolation of their newfound world,
Taylor, Dodge and Landon find paradise in a tropical oasis...or so
they think. In addition to the boon of food and water, the stranded
astronauts soon discover they are not alone. A group of strangely
mute humans reveal themselves and our heroes meet Nova -- an angelic
vision in an otherwise arid hell.


Cornelius- Mark Kalita
The Law Giver - Mark Kalita
Landon - Miles Reid
Dodge - Doug Mannlin
Taylor - Bill Hollweg
Gorillas-Miles Reid
Gorillas- Colin Snow
Gorillas-Bill Hollweg
Gorillas-James Freeman


Lessons from the Lawgiver Provided By James of LOTL and Tonights
lesson written by Glen Scheetz

Thanks Bill but that is LFTL:-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>
> *Lessons from the Lawgiver *Provided By *James of LOTL *and Tonights
lesson
> written by *Glen Scheetz*
>

By the LAWGIVER <gets on hands and kness> forgive!!!!!! I will fix that-my bad amigo!

On 4/12/07, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill but that is LFTL:-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>
> *Lessons from the Lawgiver *Provided By *James of LOTL *and Tonights
lesson
> written by *Glen Scheetz*
>

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.com
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting

I must agree with the defence of Breck - I think the guy is just unspeakably
cool. I love the fact that on one hand he's actually got noble intentions at
heart but on the other hand he doesn't realise that he's a raving lunatic.
Also, he's the only guy I've ever seen who made me think polo-necks were
cool.

Alan

Nice work, yet again!...Thanks...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> *POTA- episode #4-Chapter 3*
>
> http://www.brokensea.com/pota/pota.htm
>
> Trapped in the unforgiving desolation of their newfound world,
Taylor, Dodge
> and Landon find paradise in a tropical oasis...or so they think. In
addition
> to the boon of food and water, the stranded astronauts soon
discover they
> are not alone. A group of strangely mute humans reveal themselves
and our
> heroes meet Nova -- an angelic vision in an otherwise arid hell.
> **
>
> *Cornelius*- Mark Kalita
> *The Law Giver* - Mark Kalita
> *Landon* - Miles Reid
> *Dodge - *Doug Mannlin
> *Taylor* - Bill Hollweg
> *Gorillas*-Miles Reid
> *Gorillas-* Colin Snow
> *Gorillas*-Bill Hollweg
> *Gorillas*-James Freeman
> **
>
> *Lessons from the Lawgiver *Provided By *James of LOTL *and
Tonights lesson
> written by *Glen Scheetz*
>
>
> *Planet of the Apes Written and Directed by Bill Hollweg*
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> www.brokensea.com
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
>

-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 7:24 am
Subject: [POTA] Roscoe Lee Browne & Kurt Vonnegut RIP

Thanks Glen! Glad ya liked!

On 4/12/07, Glen <HotScheetz@...> wrote:

Nice work, yet again!...Thanks...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> *POTA- episode #4-Chapter 3*

>
> http://www.brokensea.com/pota/pota.htm
>
> Trapped in the unforgiving desolation of their newfound world,
Taylor, Dodge
> and Landon find paradise in a tropical oasis...or so they think. In
addition
> to the boon of food and water, the stranded astronauts soon
discover they
> are not alone. A group of strangely mute humans reveal themselves
and our
> heroes meet Nova -- an angelic vision in an otherwise arid hell.
> **
>
> *Cornelius*- Mark Kalita
> *The Law Giver* - Mark Kalita
> *Landon* - Miles Reid
> *Dodge - *Doug Mannlin
> *Taylor* - Bill Hollweg
> *Gorillas*-Miles Reid
> *Gorillas-* Colin Snow
> *Gorillas*-Bill Hollweg
> *Gorillas*-James Freeman
> **
>
> *Lessons from the Lawgiver *Provided By *James of LOTL *and
Tonights lesson
> written by *Glen Scheetz*
>
>
> *Planet of the Apes Written and Directed by Bill Hollweg*
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> www.brokensea.com
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
>

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.com
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting

acronym! ;-)

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.com
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting

Thanks but I do reserve the right to use it for a LORD OF THE RINGS/LAWGIVER crossover I'm planning;-)

 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> acronym! ;-)
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> www.brokensea.com
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
>

Lord of the Lawgiver?...Lawgiver of the Lord?...Lesson of the
Lord?...Lord of the Lesson?...Lawlesson of the Lordgiver?...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks but I do reserve the right to use it for a LORD OF THE
> RINGS/LAWGIVER crossover I'm planning;-)
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@> wrote:
> >
> > acronym! ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Have Sword...
> > Will Slay...
> > Barbarian in need of Ale...
> > Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> > www.brokensea.com
> > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> > http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> > Planet of the Apes
> > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> >
>

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I agree here totally.  Kolp was a great movie villain, but Breck was definitely the Governor if ever there was one.  Mr. Murray certainly played his role superbly and filled the shoes of Governor Breck.   Zach  -------Original Message-------   From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 04/11/07 18:13:42 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: The Breck conundrum   I do enjoy Kolp, however, I cannot condone that Breck was shallow and uninteresting. The man ruled unquestionably, he is one of my favorite film characters ever. --- shanter2002 <john@johnroche6. wanadoo.co. uk> wrote: > It's often a good rule of thumb with Apes to assume > that cuts and > changes were buget driven--no Goldsmith for Beneath, > cut landing > scenes in Escape,Montalban only just being > shoe-horned into Conquest > after budget shuffles.My guess is that Darden was > going to be cheaper > than Murray--it must have been a late decision as > Breck was > definitely in there originally and Marvel worked > from the earlier > script( even though Marvel's adaptation was about > three years after > the release of the film!).Personally, I'm glad we > got Kolp, not > Breck, as Breck was(before 'Revolution' !) a really > shallow > uninteresting character.John, Scrolls. > > > > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Chris Lawless > <lawford42@> wrote: > > > > > > That's what confuses me though. Even though his > character's death > > wasn't > > > in the final version of CONQUEST, it was > nonetheless filmed > because he > > > said that he didn't want to reprise the > character so that was a > way to > > > address the character's absence in any > subsequent movies. > > > > No one ever said Murray said he didn't want to > reprise the role > while > > they were filming Conquest. When they filmed > Conquest it was > assumed to > > be the last of the series so the subject of anyone > reprising their > roles > > probably never came up. Frank Capra said that the > decision to kill > > Armando was based on them thinking it was the last > film. > > > > > > > So why then was his character included in the > first draft of > BATTLE > > (dated July 5th 1972) > > > when CONQUEST was already in theaters and the > whole issue of him > not > > > wanting to come back (and how to resolve it) was > already months > in the > > > past? There were lines to address the missing > characters ("If the > bomb > > > hadn't killed the old Governor..." , "The black > man is the brother > of > > my > > > predecessor' s personal assistant... "). Do we > know for a fact that > the > > > death scene was filmed because Don Murray said > (during filming of > > > CONQUEST) that he didn't want to do a sequel? Or > was the scene > filmed, > > > cut because of the violence, > > > > I beleive it was in the original test version and > then cut when they > > tried to tone down the violence. > > > > > and then he bowed out during preproduction > > > for BATTLE and then the "If the bomb hadn't > killed the old > > Governor..." > > > line was put in to address his absence? > > > > > > And why we're on the subject, anyone know why > Hari Rhodes > declined to > > > appear in BATTLE? > > > > > > > > > Chris L. > > > > > > > > > According to Russo's book once they decided to do > Battle, Murray and > > Rhodes were contacted. It was then that Murray > said he wasn't > > interested. Rhodes was committed to another > project so he wasn't > > available. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase. yahoo.com/ promo-generic- 14795097

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Thanks!  It works fine.   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 04/09/07 06:50:15 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: Don Pedro Colley mini interview   Double click on the image to enlarge it. --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@.. .> wrote: > > Could you please enlarge this whenever you can, because I can barely read > it! Thanks. > > > > Zach > >

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "0" <vscimone@...> wrote:

>
>
> The web master over at ANSANAUT "The Last Flight
> of the Icarus" web site has been gracious enough
> to host some of my CGI renders of Taylor's Com-
> mand Module. If you're interested, head on over
> to ANSANAUT
> <http://www.goingfaster.com/icarus/tableofcontents.html"> .
> This is a great web site to peruse if you haven't
> seen it already. My submission is in the Art Gal-
> lery. Best, Vin

Man, that's just great. Good 3D work there :-)

~ Jon

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>>I agree here totally.  Kolp was a great movie villain, but

Breck was definitely the Governor if ever there was one. Mr. Murray certainly played his role superbly and filled the shoes of Governor Breck. <<

>>I must agree with the defence of Breck - I think the guy is just

unspeakably
cool. I love the fact that on one hand he's actually got noble intentions at
heart but on the other hand he doesn't realise that he's a raving lunatic.
Also, he's the only guy I've ever seen who made me think polo-necks were cool. <<

>>I do enjoy Kolp, however, I cannot condone that Breck

was shallow and uninteresting. The man ruled
unquestionably, he is one of my favorite film
characters ever.<<

>>It's often a good rule of thumb with Apes to assume that cuts and

changes were buget driven--no Goldsmith for Beneath, cut landing
scenes in Escape,Montalban only just being shoe-horned into Conquest
after budget shuffles.My guess is that Darden was going to be cheaper
than Murray--it must have been a late decision as Breck was
definitely in there originally and Marvel worked from the earlier
script( even though Marvel's adaptation was about three years after
the release of the film!).Personally, I'm glad we got Kolp, not
Breck, as Breck was(before 'Revolution' !) a really shallow
uninteresting character. <<<.html

Maybe my view of Breck is imprinted by John Jakes' novel, but my
opinion is that Breck is not unspeakably cool but is, instead, a 24
carat knob.He's a bully, a drunkard, probable wife killer, arrogant,
charmless and, let us not forget, ultimately the ineffective clown who
allows a bunch of mute apes to bring civilisation crashing down around
his ears.He disintegrates in panic during the uprising and is weak
beyond belief.The man is a total tosser. John, Scrolls.

>
> I must agree with the defence of Breck - I think the guy is just

unspeakably

> cool. I love the fact that on one hand he's actually got noble

intentions at

> heart but on the other hand he doesn't realise that he's a raving

lunatic.

> Also, he's the only guy I've ever seen who made me think polo-necks

were

> cool.
>
> Alan
>

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In a message dated 4/12/2007 11:48:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

I can't remember anything Roscoe Lee Browne performed in that I didn't
enjoy

 

Especially The Cowboys

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In a message dated 4/13/2007 12:21:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, lawford42@... writes:

it ultimately ends up coming back to haunt them in one manner or another (Hasslein was similar in one sense inasmuch as you could argue his actions brought about the very thing he sought to prevent).

 

It's only because we identify with Zira and Cornelius that we root for the Apes.

They were going through the same thing Taylor went through.  Being a fugitive

who really means no harm.  Though their own existence in a different time is

itself harmful.  I doubt we'd feel the same if Zaius and Ursus went back in time.

 

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In a message dated 4/13/2007 12:21:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, lawford42@... writes:

it ultimately ends up coming back to haunt them in one manner or another (Hasslein was similar in one sense inasmuch as you could argue his actions brought about the very thing he sought to prevent).

 

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I am the producer of the BrokenSea Audio Production of POTA and would
love to buy a copy of Simian Scrolls #13. Let me know what I need to
do and I will get ya'll some cash.

Bill Hollweg

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "billhollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:

>
> I am the producer of the BrokenSea Audio Production of POTA and would
> love to buy a copy of Simian Scrolls #13. Let me know what I need to
> do and I will get ya'll some cash.

Hi Bill,

All you need to do is touch the tip of one finger to your nose. With
the other hand juggle three kittens whilst hopping along a straight line.

Alternatively you could try contacting Kassidy Rae, our US
distributor. <valwp@...>. Kass will let you know how and where
to send any payment.

Best,
Dave B

You know, Dave, I tried that, but it didn't work...Does the color of
the kittens matter?...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
> All you need to do is touch the tip of one finger to your nose. With
> the other hand juggle three kittens whilst hopping along a straight
line.

> Best,
> Dave B
>

The week's LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now available. Thanks to Glen and everyone else who contributed. This is part 4 of a special 5 part LESSON.

To view the LESSON click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm.

Have a great weekend everybody!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

• The Internal Website  - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
• POTA Locations  - The places where the POTA films were shot.
• The Art Gallery  - Works of POTA Art by our members.
• The Database Section  - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.
• The Photos Section  - POTA pics contributed by members.

That would've been cool. Is there a "what if" comic out there?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
I doubt we'd feel the same if Zaius and Ursus went back in
> time.
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com
>

.htmlHi James, It's me Mark Gonzalez again! He Man, I wanted to write and say thank you for all the support in that last round of the comedy competition at famecast.com. I really appreciated the support. Just a quick update. I am on my way to Austin, Texas tomorrow. famecast is flying me in to erform in the final five show.

I've been doing lots of press but I was wondering if it would be OK to post on the messageboard one last time since the finals are tomorrow.

I could use all the support I can get!

Mark Gonzalez
simianarms




Building any business from the ground up is no easy task. Especially when the only thing your business is selling is yourself! So when it comes to working hard for something, San Diego Comedy Store regular, Mark Gonzalez, is no stranger to hard work.
 
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Thanks again everyone!

Mark Gonzalez
www.markgonzalezcomedy.com
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On 4/13/07, Glen <HotScheetz@...> wrote:

You know, Dave, I tried that, but it didn't work...Does the color of
the kittens matter?...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
> All you need to do is touch the tip of one finger to your nose. With
> the other hand juggle three kittens whilst hopping along a straight
line.

> Best,
> Dave B
>

--
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     Will Slay...
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Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
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Please keep us informed Mark. Good luck in Austin!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, markalyce@... wrote:
>
> Hi James, It's me Mark Gonzalez again! He Man, I wanted to write and say thank you for all the support in that last round of the comedy competition at famecast.com. I really appreciated the support. Just a quick update. I am on my way to Austin, Texas tomorrow. famecast is flying me in to erform in the final five show.
>
> I've been doing lots of press but I was wondering if it would be OK to post on the messageboard one last time since the finals are tomorrow.
>
> I could use all the support I can get!
>
> Mark Gonzalez
> simianarms
>
>
>
>
> Building any business from the ground up is no easy task. Especially when the only thing your business is selling is yourself! So when it comes to working hard for something, San Diego Comedy Store regular, Mark Gonzalez, is no stranger to hard work.
>
> In January, Mark entered an online comedy competition at the website www.famecast.com. The competition began with 100 comedians from across the country uploading video clips of their performances and getting people to log in, watch their clip and if they liked it, cast their vote to get them into the next round. Mark has been working at this for the last four months and with his talent and tenacity has managed to get enough votes to get him into the top five of this national competition. But the contest isn’t over yet. He still needs your help! The competition is coming to an end.
>
> On Saturday, April 14th, www.famecast.com is flying Mark to Austin, Texas, where he will compete in a Live web-cast show featuring Mark and 4 other comedians all vying for the title of Famecast Phenom!
>
> The FINALS show will take place Saturday, April 14th @ 8 PM CST and voting will be taking place live, as the performance is web-cast on www.famecast.com as well as the TWO days following the performance.
>
> Please help Mark one last time and vote for him at www.famecast.com.
> The 5 step voting process will take you less than 5 minutes. In less than 5 minutes you can help a friend/neighbor realize his dream.
>
> 1. www.famecast.com
> 2. Login and Register
> 3. Check your email and click on “confirm your email address”
> 4. Click on the Comedy Stage
> 5. Click on Mark Gonzalez “vote for this artist”
>
> This has been a long ride and it’s almost over. Please help Mark out one last time and vote for Mark at www.famecast.com.
>
> Thanks again everyone!
>
> Mark Gonzalez
> www.markgonzalezcomedy.com
>
> ____________> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
>

.html.html I rented from Netflix this DVD of an obscure 1967 Doris Day movie "Caprice."  Why?  Well, because it happens to feature a rare appearance by Robert "Landon" Gunner, and has an even rarer cameo by POTA director of photography Leon Shamroy, who was also the DP on this picture.  Amazingly Fox has provided a lot of extras with this movie including a commentary track, where the Gunner POTA connection is mentioned, AND more importantly a couple of those "Dick Strout Radio Interviews."  Both are listened to while you view a collection of stills and original ads and poster images.  Now, if Fox has these "radio interviews" from this nearly forgotten movie, I'll bet they also have the ones for POTA '68 mentioned in the pressbook.  Perhaps they'll show up in a future APES DVD release?  Well, let's bloody hope so!

In other news, both "Fantastic Voyage" (1966) and the original "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" (1961) movie will be re-released in special edition DVDs in June.  Both will have commentary tracks and new featurettes.  Let's see if any "radio interviews" pop up on them too.  Both DVDs also feature original ad art on their covers and these can be viewed on Amazon.com, if you care to look them up.

I'm getting the strong feeling that next year will see a new DVD special edition of at least PLANET!  Let's bloody well hope so!

-- Rory


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I know Chris Shields very well, he's a friend and he has a fantastic website.   Zach    -------Original Message-------   From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 04/12/07 21:08:35 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: CGI Renders of the "Icarus"   --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "0" <vscimone@.. .> wrote: > > > The web master over at ANSANAUT "The Last Flight > of the Icarus" web site has been gracious enough > to host some of my CGI renders of Taylor's Com- > mand Module. If you're interested, head on over > to ANSANAUT > <http://www.goingfas ter.com/icarus/ tableofcontents..html"> . > This is a great web site to peruse if you haven't > seen it already. My submission is in the Art Gal- > lery. Best, Vin Man, that's just great. Good 3D work there :-) ~ Jon

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Yes, Roscoe Lee Browne was a dynamic actor.  He will be greatly missed.   Zach  -------Original Message-------   From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 04/12/07 09:52:13 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: Roscoe Lee Browne & Kurt Vonnegut RIP   Safe journey Roscoe---may you avoid nets and find Sanctuary safely.You're sadly missed. John, Scrolls. > > > This morning our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and friends > of Roscoe Lee Browne who died yesterday at the age of 81. Mr. Browne > appeared on the PLANET OF THE APES TV Series in the episode 'Tomorrow's > Tide'. He will be missed. > > We are also saddened by the death of author Kurt Vonnegut. Although he > had nothing to do with POTA, Vonnegut was a great writer and his death > is a loss to our culture. >

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Thanks Rory...It would be nice, but Fox hasn't really been too
forthcoming with new, unseen Apes material, have they...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> I rented from Netflix this DVD of an obscure 1967 Doris Day
movie "Caprice."
> Why? Well, because it happens to feature a rare appearance by
Robert
> "Landon" Gunner, and has an even rarer cameo by POTA director of
photography Leon
> Shamroy, who was also the DP on this picture. Amazingly Fox has
provided a lot
> of extras with this movie including a commentary track, where the
Gunner POTA
> connection is mentioned, AND more importantly a couple of
those "Dick Strout
> Radio Interviews." Both are listened to while you view a
collection of stills
> and original ads and poster images. Now, if Fox has these "radio
interviews"
> from this nearly forgotten movie, I'll bet they also have the ones
for POTA '68
> mentioned in the pressbook. Perhaps they'll show up in a future
APES DVD
> release? Well, let's bloody hope so!
>
> In other news, both "Fantastic Voyage" (1966) and the
original "Voyage to the
> Bottom of the Sea" (1961) movie will be re-released in special
edition DVDs
> in June. Both will have commentary tracks and new featurettes.
Let's see if
> any "radio interviews" pop up on them too. Both DVDs also feature
original ad
> art on their covers and these can be viewed on Amazon.com, if you
care to look
> them up.
>
> I'm getting the strong feeling that next year will see a new DVD
special
> edition of at least PLANET! Let's bloody well hope so!
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> **************************************
> See what's free at
> http://www.aol.com
>

Exacrtly right---this material must still exist and the definitive
release of Planet, with proper extras, is still awaited
someday.Something with all the press material, radio spots etc.,
should be perfectly possible.I'd love a 'time capsule' release, as if
it's 1968 again. Wsn't Robert Gunner the Marlboro Cowboy on posters
for a while? Is he still around? John, Scrolls

>
> I rented from Netflix this DVD of an obscure 1967 Doris Day

movie "Caprice."

> Why? Well, because it happens to feature a rare appearance by

Robert

> "Landon" Gunner, and has an even rarer cameo by POTA director of

photography Leon

> Shamroy, who was also the DP on this picture. Amazingly Fox has

provided a lot

> of extras with this movie including a commentary track, where the

Gunner POTA

> connection is mentioned, AND more importantly a couple of

those "Dick Strout

> Radio Interviews." Both are listened to while you view a

collection of stills

> and original ads and poster images. Now, if Fox has these "radio

interviews"

> from this nearly forgotten movie, I'll bet they also have the ones

for POTA '68

> mentioned in the pressbook. Perhaps they'll show up in a future

APES DVD

> release? Well, let's bloody hope so!
>
> In other news, both "Fantastic Voyage" (1966) and the

original "Voyage to the

> Bottom of the Sea" (1961) movie will be re-released in special

edition DVDs

> in June. Both will have commentary tracks and new featurettes.

Let's see if

> any "radio interviews" pop up on them too. Both DVDs also feature

original ad

> art on their covers and these can be viewed on Amazon.com, if you

care to look

> them up.
>
> I'm getting the strong feeling that next year will see a new DVD

special

> edition of at least PLANET! Let's bloody well hope so!
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> **************************************
> See what's free at
> http://www.aol.com
>

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Wasn't Robert Gunner the Marlboro Cowboy on posters
for a while? Is he still around? John, Scrolls

Maybe he was?  I don't know, but I do believe he's dead, "Jim."

-- Rory

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>>My goodness, yes. Jon has mentioned similar thoughts. And that was

the
only adaptation of the Bomb as what was shown in the 1970 film. The MARVEL
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>>I believe the names for both characters come from the promotional

Herald
issued for the film. <<
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>>Unknown. Hoskyns is never seen again after the scene in Breck's

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This is what I know about their names:

Mendez - means "cleverness"; possible extrapolation of Mohandas,
meaning "charming servant"
Albina - from albino, meaning "pale" or "white"; albinos have blue or
pink irises
Caspay - possible extrapolation from Caspar, meaning "treasurer"
Ongoro - means "dark" or "black"
Adiposo - from adipose, meaning "fat" or "fatty"

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> I had forgotten about those.
>
> OK, so the next question is where did the names used in the
promotional
> Herald come from? Fox Publicity? Did they realize that two of the
> characters didn't have any names and just make something up? Or did
they
> refer back to someone involved with the production? Which still
brings up
> the point of never seeing either of these two names in any of the
scripts
> that are available. And for that matter, I have to wonder why
Mendez,
> Albina, and Caspay had names because they were never used in the
film. I
> wonder how the audience was supposed to know who was who- unless
they
> knew who the actors were.
>
> And then there's the fact that I've usually seen DPC character
referred
> to as 'Ongaro' not 'Ongoro', so you have to wonder where the
misspelling
> originally took place. Did Fox Publicity mess up, or was someone
> remembering what they saw in the promotional Herald and ended up
changing
> a letter?
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> >>I believe the names for both characters come from the promotional
> Herald
> issued for the film. <<
>

Saul Bass was the 'Title Designer' for North by Northwest. According to his listing on IMBD he wasn't involved in any of the POTA films. Most likely a case of FOX ripping off someone else's idea.

 

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Looking at the amazing Beneath pics reminded me of a really nerdish
> point.I recently bought Hitchcock's North by Northwest on dvd and the
> poster title for the movie has arrows on the title letters in a style
> very similar to the 'up/down' arrows on the Beneath posters.The
> similarity is striking when you see it.I was wondering if ther's any
> design connection betwen the two movies.If Hitchcock had directed the
> first Apes, maybe we'd know who murdered Stewart. John, Scrolls.
>

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In a message dated 4/15/2007 7:15:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, frohike60@... writes:

According to IMDB.com he died in 1992.

And that's all they say about him other than this:

 

 

Wow, he was 008?

I did not know that.

 

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Neither did I.  Thanks for the info.   Zach    -------Original Message-------   From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 04/16/07 04:27:56 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [POTA] Robert Gunner   In a message dated 4/15/2007 7:15:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, frohike60@aol. com writes: According to IMDB.com he died in 1992. And that's all they say about him other than this:     Wow, he was 008? I did not know that.   See what's free at AOL.com.

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Wow.  I knew about a couple of them, "Ongaro" and "Adiposo", but I wasn't familiar about the others.  Once again, thanks.   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 04/15/07 19:34:34 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: The Mutant name conundrum   This is what I know about their names: Mendez - means "cleverness" ; possible extrapolation of Mohandas, meaning "charming servant" Albina - from albino, meaning "pale" or "white"; albinos have blue or pink irises Caspay - possible extrapolation from Caspar, meaning "treasurer" Ongoro - means "dark" or "black" Adiposo - from adipose, meaning "fat" or "fatty" G --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@. ..> wrote: > > I had forgotten about those. > > OK, so the next question is where did the names used in the promotional > Herald come from? Fox Publicity? Did they realize that two of the > characters didn't have any names and just make something up? Or did they > refer back to someone involved with the production? Which still brings up > the point of never seeing either of these two names in any of the scripts > that are available. And for that matter, I have to wonder why Mendez, > Albina, and Caspay had names because they were never used in the film. I > wonder how the audience was supposed to know who was who- unless they > knew who the actors were. > > And then there's the fact that I've usually seen DPC character referred > to as 'Ongaro' not 'Ongoro', so you have to wonder where the misspelling > originally took place. Did Fox Publicity mess up, or was someone > remembering what they saw in the promotional Herald and ended up changing > a letter? > > > Chris L. > > > > "James" <JamesA1102@ ...> wrote: > > >>I believe the names for both characters come from the promotional > Herald > issued for the film. << >

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I noticed that too.  Also, Mendez seemed to grow ears from one chapter to another.   Zach    -------Original Message-------   From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 04/15/07 18:25:12 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: Radio City marquee??   In their BATTLE adaptation there were not only different renderings of it, but it also seemed to change location from inside to outside at least once if I recall correctly. MacDonald also mysteriously grew a beard between chapters.     Chris L.       "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@aol. com> wrote:   >>My goodness, yes. Jon has mentioned similar thoughts. And that was the only adaptation of the Bomb as what was shown in the 1970 film. The MARVEL comic version of the Bomb was so small... <<

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The art for the Marvel Battle adaptations was cursed by rotating
artists---if you look at the Council scene when Aldo ejects the
humans, they're all wearing totally modern clothes.Caesar is losing
his hair due to radiation then he isn't etc,.Battle was the only
adaptation that had more than one artist on the run (Alacazar,
Alcala, Castrillo, and Trinidad, at least) and it did spoil the look
and mood in parts---some of it was clearly rushed.I actually think
that Marvel's little Beneath Bomb is far cooler than the phallic big
bomb!Marvel achieved a remarkable feat in managing to complete the
adaptation of all five movies, however. John Scrolls.

> I noticed that too. Also, Mendez seemed to grow ears from one

chapter to

> another.
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Date: 04/15/07 18:25:12
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [POTA] Re: Radio City marquee??
>
>
>
> In their BATTLE adaptation there were not only different renderings

of it,

> but it also seemed to change location from inside to outside at

least once

> if I recall correctly. MacDonald also mysteriously grew a beard

between

> chapters.
>
>
>
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> >>My goodness, yes. Jon has mentioned similar thoughts. And that

was the

>
> only adaptation of the Bomb as what was shown in the 1970 film. The

MARVEL

>
> comic version of the Bomb was so small... <<
>

You're quite welcome...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> Wow. I knew about a couple of them, "Ongaro" and "Adiposo", but I
wasn't
> familiar about the others. Once again, thanks.
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Date: 04/15/07 19:34:34
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [POTA] Re: The Mutant name conundrum
>
>
>
> This is what I know about their names:
>
>
>
> Mendez - means "cleverness"; possible extrapolation of Mohandas,
>
> meaning "charming servant"
>
> Albina - from albino, meaning "pale" or "white"; albinos have blue
or
>
> pink irises
>
> Caspay - possible extrapolation from Caspar, meaning "treasurer"
>
> Ongoro - means "dark" or "black"
>
> Adiposo - from adipose, meaning "fat" or "fatty"
>
>
>
> G
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > I had forgotten about those.
>
> >
>
> > OK, so the next question is where did the names used in the
>
> promotional
>
> > Herald come from? Fox Publicity? Did they realize that two of the
>
> > characters didn't have any names and just make something up? Or
did
>
> they
>
> > refer back to someone involved with the production? Which still
>
> brings up
>
> > the point of never seeing either of these two names in any of the
>
> scripts
>
> > that are available. And for that matter, I have to wonder why
>
> Mendez,
>
> > Albina, and Caspay had names because they were never used in the
>
> film. I
>
> > wonder how the audience was supposed to know who was who- unless
>
> they
>
> > knew who the actors were.
>
> >
>
> > And then there's the fact that I've usually seen DPC character
>
> referred
>
> > to as 'Ongaro' not 'Ongoro', so you have to wonder where the
>
> misspelling
>
> > originally took place. Did Fox Publicity mess up, or was someone
>
> > remembering what they saw in the promotional Herald and ended up
>
> changing
>
> > a letter?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Chris L.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > "James" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >>I believe the names for both characters come from the
promotional
>
> > Herald
>
> > issued for the film. <<
>
> >
>

Marvel's BENEATH A/O bomb was based on "Fat Man", the atomic bomb
dropped on Nagasaki in WWII...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:

I actually think that Marvel's little Beneath Bomb is far cooler than
the phallic big bomb!

John Scrolls.

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You are right about that, it's a shame that Alfredo Alcala didn't do most of BATTLE, as far as I'm concerned, he was the best artist.    Zach  -------Original Message-------   From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 04/16/07 06:12:15 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: Radio City marquee??   The art for the Marvel Battle adaptations was cursed by rotating artists---if you look at the Council scene when Aldo ejects the humans, they're all wearing totally modern clothes.Caesar is losing his hair due to radiation then he isn't etc,.Battle was the only adaptation that had more than one artist on the run (Alacazar, Alcala, Castrillo, and Trinidad, at least) and it did spoil the look and mood in parts---some of it was clearly rushed.I actually think that Marvel's little Beneath Bomb is far cooler than the phallic big bomb!Marvel achieved a remarkable feat in managing to complete the adaptation of all five movies, however. John Scrolls. > I noticed that too. Also, Mendez seemed to grow ears from one chapter to > another. > > > > Zach > > > > -------Original Message----- -- > > > > From: pota@yahoogroups. com > > Date: 04/15/07 18:25:12 > > To: pota@yahoogroups. com > > Subject: [POTA] Re: Radio City marquee?? > > > > In their BATTLE adaptation there were not only different renderings of it, > but it also seemed to change location from inside to outside at least once > if I recall correctly. MacDonald also mysteriously grew a beard between > chapters. > > > > > > Chris L. > > > > > > > > "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@. ..> wrote: > > > > >>My goodness, yes. Jon has mentioned similar thoughts. And that was the > > only adaptation of the Bomb as what was shown in the 1970 film. The MARVEL > > comic version of the Bomb was so small... << >

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I guess that I must have forgotten that the bomb dropped during WWII was named "Fat Man"!  Thanks for the info!   Zach   -------Original Message-------   From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 04/16/07 17:10:14 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: Radio City marquee??   Marvel's BENEATH A/O bomb was based on "Fat Man", the atomic bomb dropped on Nagasaki in WWII... G --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote: I actually think that Marvel's little Beneath Bomb is far cooler than the phallic big bomb! John Scrolls.

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You're welcome...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> I guess that I must have forgotten that the bomb dropped during
WWII was
> named "Fat Man"! Thanks for the info!
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Date: 04/16/07 17:10:14
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [POTA] Re: Radio City marquee??
>
>
>
> Marvel's BENEATH A/O bomb was based on "Fat Man", the atomic bomb
>
> dropped on Nagasaki in WWII...
>
>
>
> G
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
>
>
>
> I actually think that Marvel's little Beneath Bomb is far cooler
than
>
> the phallic big bomb!
>
>
>
> John Scrolls.
>

Hello all! I have been lurking for a week or so...so
busy I'm still many emails behind...when I get caught
up I will contribute foreign lobbies that have not
been posted yet...I have several.....

Tim


--- brendan486 <nzape@...> wrote:

> Perhaps they can be scanned and sent to the group
> for reference.
> If there is room.
> I can scan a couple of Mexican cards I have and some
> more on the way.
> I leave it up to those who know what is best to
> decide.
> Brendan.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 4/7/2007 2:57:39 P.M. Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> > PofTAfan@... writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have some German lobby cards from Escape
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have the set of 18 Conquest French lobby cards.
> And one British
> one from
> > the same film.
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** See what's
> free at
> http://www.aol.com
> >
>
>
>

I thought I saw someone tip-toeing through the shadows!...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all! I have been lurking for a week or so...so
> busy I'm still many emails behind...when I get caught
> up I will contribute foreign lobbies that have not
> been posted yet...I have several.....
>
> Tim
>
>
> --- brendan486 <nzape@...> wrote:
>
> > Perhaps they can be scanned and sent to the group
> > for reference.
> > If there is room.
> > I can scan a couple of Mexican cards I have and some
> > more on the way.
> > I leave it up to those who know what is best to
> > decide.
> > Brendan.
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 4/7/2007 2:57:39 P.M. Eastern
> > Daylight Time,
> > > PofTAfan@ writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have some German lobby cards from Escape
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have the set of 18 Conquest French lobby cards.
> > And one British
> > one from
> > > the same film.
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ************************************** See what's
> > free at
> > http://www.aol.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

-----Original Message-----
From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 7:16 pm
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Radio City marquee??

You are right about that, it's a shame that Alfredo Alcala didn't do most of BATTLE, as far as I'm concerned, he was the best artist. 

Yes, that could have been kuel, especially if they adapted the Rod
Serling scripts we never saw filmed!...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@... wrote:
>
>
> Quite true. he should have done all five adaptations. i wonder if the
mag continued if they would have done original TV episode stories?

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As I recall, they weren't intending on doing anything else after they finished up BATTLE.  But it would have been nice, in addition to the TV series they could have kept going with TERROR...kept the stories continuing about Jason, Alex, Malaguena, Lightsmith, Brutus and the others.   Zach   -------Original Message-------   From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 04/17/07 14:20:58 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Radio City marquee??   Quite true. he should have done all five adaptations. i wonder if the mag continued if they would have done original TV episode stories? People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should fear their people. -V, V For Vendetta -----Original Message----- From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> To: pota@yahoogroups. com Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 7:16 pm Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Radio City marquee?? You are right about that, it's a shame that Alfredo Alcala didn't do most of BATTLE, as far as I'm concerned, he was the best artist.  AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

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-----Original Message-----
From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Radio City marquee??

But it would have been nice, in addition to the TV series they could have kept going with TERROR...kept the stories continuing about Jason, Alex, Malaguena, Lightsmith, Brutus and the others.

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In a message dated 4/17/2007 7:16:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, frohike60@... writes:

A good person always says yes...

 

No they don't.

 

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In a message dated 4/17/2007 9:13:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:

Hello all! I have been lurking for a week or so...so
busy I'm still many emails behind...when I get caught
up I will contribute foreign lobbies that have not
been posted yet...I have several.....

Tim

Excellent! Can't wait to see them.

Bruce

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That's, "Yes, they don't"...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 4/17/2007 7:16:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> frohike60@... writes:
>
> A good person always says yes...
>
>
>
>
> No they don't.
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com
>

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In a message dated 4/17/2007 9:32:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

That's, "Yes, they don't"...=)

 

Then can I have all your money?

 

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Yes...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 4/17/2007 9:32:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> HotScheetz@... writes:
>
> That's, "Yes, they don't"...=)
>
>
>
>
> Then can I have all your money?
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com
>

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 8:28 pm
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Radio City marquee??

No they don't.

Nope, Terror took place on this Earth , as is evidenced by the same
speech, clothes, monuments etc.I own a page of Tom Sutton's art with
a note from Doug Moench telling him to remove a dog, as that
conflicted with Apes movies, so it's clearly the same
world.What's 'lameass' about the Pychedrome?--brain washing innocents
to carry out the ruler's mission and betraying a dream of a better
world.Obviously no social relevance to the real world. John, Scrolls.

>
>
> They do if they're Lightsmith and they've been to the lameass

Psychodrome. I actually think that Terror took place on an alternate
earth... perhaps the one that Leo returns to in 2001's Planet of the
Apes...

>
>
>
>
>
> People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should fear

their people. -V, V For Vendetta

>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LordTZer0@...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 8:28 pm
> Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Radio City marquee??
>
> No they don't.
>

__________

-----Original Message-----
From: shanter2002 <john@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 6:57 am
Subject: [POTA] Re: Radio City marquee??

Nope, Terror took place on this Earth , as is evidenced by the same
speech, clothes, monuments etc.I own a page of Tom Sutton's art with
a note from Doug Moench telling him to remove a dog, as that
conflicted with Apes movies, so it's clearly the same
world.What's 'lameass' about the Pychedrome?- -brain washing innocents
to carry out the ruler's mission and betraying a dream of a better
world.Obviously no social relevance to the real world.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@... wrote:

>
>
> So? Alternate realities can have minor differences (no dogs) as

well as similarities (clothing). You can believe what you want, I
still can't beleive that Doug Moench one of my favorite writers of
the time wrote such drek as that. The bit with Gunpowder and such
might as well have been called Daniel Simian of the Wild Frontier.
And that recurring bs with Brutus. Shit, just put one through his
head already and move on to a new villain. Jeez...

>

Speaking of alternate realities... Have I crossed over?
I recall the same discussion (!) in a reality I was in a couple of
months back...
Let it go people. This reality is ahead of the last.
Brendan.

I still have copies left of the latest issue - if you live in the USA
or Canada and you're interested in getting one for your very own, it's
$6.00 (and that includes shipping). Email me at valwp@...
Kass

I'm sure all of those POTA members my age......(40) will remember how
jazzed we we're for the POTA TV series. Imagine My disappointment
when, in the 1st shot of the series. They blew the whole thing. Ape
child. WITH A DOG!!!!!!

Didn't anyone at 20th Century Fox watch their own movies???? Where was
the continuity. Oh well. it was still a cool show. It had Dr Zaius.
What else could you want?

BTW I guess I should introduce myself. I would bet that I am probably a
bit older than some of you. 40yrs old. I can even remeber when they
were making these darned films. I have always been a devote' and have
settled a number of POTA bets, being regarded as the wise geek has it's
advantages.

Looking back I think one of my roll models has always been Dr. Zaius.
There was never a cooler or more urbane ape.

Welcome Randy...Thanks for your comments and observations...Yes, the
dog in the opening shot struck me, as well, as I'm sure it did with
most all Apes fans...BTW, I was 13 when I saw POTA -- the first movie,
in the theater in '67...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Randy" <tikiman1705@...> wrote:
>
>
> BTW I guess I should introduce myself. I would bet that I am probably
a
> bit older than some of you. 40yrs old. I can even remeber when they
> were making these darned films. I have always been a devote' and have
> settled a number of POTA bets, being regarded as the wise geek has
it's
> advantages.
>
> Looking back I think one of my roll models has always been Dr. Zaius.
> There was never a cooler or more urbane ape.
>

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy <tikiman1705@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 2:24 pm
Subject: [POTA] New member......

BTW I guess I should introduce myself. I would bet that I am probably a
bit older than some of you. 40yrs old.

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy <tikiman1705@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 2:08 pm
Subject: [POTA] An 11 yr old knew better.

I'm sure all of those POTA members my age......(40) will remember how
jazzed we we're for the POTA TV series. Imagine My disappointment
when, in the 1st shot of the series. They blew the whole thing. Ape
child. WITH A DOG!!!!!!

Didn't anyone at 20th Century Fox watch their own movies???? Where was
the continuity. Oh well. it was still a cool show. It had Dr Zaius.
What else could you want?

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In a message dated 4/18/2007 4:39:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

Yes, the
dog in the opening shot struck me, as well, as I'm sure it did with
most all Apes fans...

Wait . . . what?

Dog?  What was that?

 

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In the opening scene of the TV show, there is a dog, remember?...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 4/18/2007 4:39:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> HotScheetz@... writes:
>
> Yes, the
> dog in the opening shot struck me, as well, as I'm sure it did
with
> most all Apes fans...
>
>
> Wait . . . what?
> Dog? What was that?
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Randy" <tikiman1705@...> wrote:

>
>
> I'm sure all of those POTA members my age......(40) will remember how
> jazzed we we're for the POTA TV series. Imagine My disappointment
> when, in the 1st shot of the series. They blew the whole thing. Ape
> child. WITH A DOG!!!!!!

How can you say you were 11 years old in 1974 when the series made it's
debut? If you are 40, then you would have been 7 (or 8/going on 8)when
it aired. Something is quite off with your math.

>
> Didn't anyone at 20th Century Fox watch their own movies???? Where

was

> the continuity. Oh well. it was still a cool show. It had Dr Zaius.
> What else could you want?
>

I have to correct you here. The orangutan in the TV series isn't Dr.
Zaius. Dr. Zaius is only in PLANET and BENEATH. The Zaius character on
TV is a High Council member, but not the Minister of Science/Chief
Defender of The Faith that Dr. Zaius was in the films. They are not the
same ape, nor are they supposed to be.

Wow, I have been out of the Ape loop for a little while (been pretty
busy!) and I just noticed that the "APE-CITY" website is back up with
new stuff! This is great!

~Paul

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In a message dated 4/19/2007 12:42:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

In the opening scene of the TV show, there is a dog, remember?...

 

Nope!  I just don't remember

that much about the TV show.

That was over 30 years ago.

and except for a few of the

shows, I don't recall many

details.  Even the "movie"

cuts and the FX repeats

are distant memories &

I didn't buy the DVD's.

 

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In the opening scene, the young chimp, Arno, trees the old human,
Farrow, with his dog, then the spaceship crashes...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 4/19/2007 12:42:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> HotScheetz@... writes:
>
> In the opening scene of the TV show, there is a dog, remember?...
>
>
>
>
> Nope! I just don't remember
> that much about the TV show.
> That was over 30 years ago.
> and except for a few of the
> shows, I don't recall many
> details. Even the "movie"
> cuts and the FX repeats
> are distant memories &
> I didn't buy the DVD's.
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com
>

Brendan you back stabbing maggot--you can criticise my wife, my
mother, my dress sense and my fat gut, but mister you punch low when
you criticise Terror in all of its magnificence.Clear the room, this
is a fight between Paddies and it won't be pretty. It will make the
Eagles Farewell Tour look like a tea party.I notice you didn't have
the balls to say this when I was within swinging distance of you in
Birmingham! John, Scrolls.

>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > So? Alternate realities can have minor differences (no dogs) as
> well as similarities (clothing). You can believe what you want, I
> still can't beleive that Doug Moench one of my favorite writers of
> the time wrote such drek as that. The bit with Gunpowder and such
> might as well have been called Daniel Simian of the Wild Frontier.
> And that recurring bs with Brutus. Shit, just put one through his
> head already and move on to a new villain. Jeez...
> >
>
>
> Speaking of alternate realities... Have I crossed over?
> I recall the same discussion (!) in a reality I was in a couple of
> months back...
> Let it go people. This reality is ahead of the last.
> Brendan.
>

Always the peace maker gets it in the neck!
John, I was getting at the Person who doesn't like Terror. He was
raking up stuff already closed.
I like Terror. I said so last reality.
If we have a Paddy fight, I'll win. I'm a Northern Barbarian, just
like Conan. You Southerners have lived in comfort to your detriment
for far too long...
Swift upper shamrock to the ghoulies. Defend that with your limp
Leek..
Brendan.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Brendan you back stabbing maggot--you can criticise my wife, my
> mother, my dress sense and my fat gut, but mister you punch low
when
> you criticise Terror in all of its magnificence.Clear the room,
this
> is a fight between Paddies and it won't be pretty. It will make
the
> Eagles Farewell Tour look like a tea party.I notice you didn't
have
> the balls to say this when I was within swinging distance of you
in
> Birmingham! John, Scrolls.
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > So? Alternate realities can have minor differences (no dogs)
as
> > well as similarities (clothing). You can believe what you want,
I
> > still can't beleive that Doug Moench one of my favorite writers
of
> > the time wrote such drek as that. The bit with Gunpowder and
such
> > might as well have been called Daniel Simian of the Wild
Frontier.
> > And that recurring bs with Brutus. Shit, just put one through
his
> > head already and move on to a new villain. Jeez...
> > >
> >
> >
> > Speaking of alternate realities... Have I crossed over?
> > I recall the same discussion (!) in a reality I was in a couple
of
> > months back...
> > Let it go people. This reality is ahead of the last.
> > Brendan.
> >
>

-----Original Message-----
From: shanter2002 <john@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 3:22 pm
Subject: [POTA] Re: Realities!

but mister you punch low when
you criticise Terror in all of its magnificence.

As one of the Moderators here, I'd like all of us within this mutual
admiration society, filled with love and peace, to remember when
expressing our Law-given right to an opinion, not to get defensive
and/or confrontational with those who are expressing their Law-given
right to the opposite opinion...Thanks...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@... wrote:
>
>
> First, I'll post anything I care to post. I'm not offensive, I
don't flame others. I didn't like Terror then and I like it less now.
It's a lame series of ideas, unworthy of being part of Planet of the
Apes. It takes ideas, as I said, that a Charles Band movie wouldn't
and asks a reader to accept them, which I didn't and don't. The best
single non-Movie adaptation was Evolution's Nightmare, which blew
Terror away. And when Tom Sutton took over the artwork, which was the
one good thing (thanks Mike Ploog) took a nosedive. Am I telling
others not to like it. Hell no. that would be like telling Trekkies
not to like Entercrud. But I don't like it and no one can make me. It
was bad, bad, bad.
>
>
>
> And I still think it and the Planet of the Apes TV series are
alternate realities, or microrealities, branched off from the main
time stream.
>
>
>
> Those are my guns and I'm sticking to them.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should fear
their people. -V, V For Vendetta
>
>
__________

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@... wrote:

>
>
> I'm on Brendans side, whoever he is. Terror stunk. Moench took ideas

that sounded like they were from a Charles Band movie and threw
together. And the characters he came up with were lame as well. This
was as bad as the Original Galactica, with stupid episodes like Gun on
Ice Planet Zero (otherwise known as the Guns of Navarone.)

>

Confusing. I am not sure who I am either, but my earlier post
hopefully clarifies that I like Terror.
I don't like John's brown shoes. Gorillas don't wear brown shoes.The
disgrace of it. And he even claims Paddyhood!!!!
Brendan.

I re-read my last post and didn't mean to say 'getting at the person'
I meant 'getting at the exhumation of the dead topic as to who does
and doesn't like Terror...'
And I do not think that people can say/post anything they want
because of some belief that it is their 'RIGHT' to express
themselves without considering consequences.
Particularly since sticking to guns is why nothing is ever resolved.
Harlan Ellison (nasty man) once said the 'Internet gives all those
with opinions a vehicle to voice them,it's a shame most are ill
informed opinions' (paraphrased)
But if you want to hoist colours, then 'avast yee matey' The Terror
skull and crossbones are unveiled.
Terror was a lovely litany of language, a poetical puree of prose, a
visual vital vacation, a jaunty joyous juxtaposition, a pleasurable
potpouree of poltroonery, a a a a...
Shit, I enjoyed it.
Brendan.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@... wrote:
>
>
> First, I'll post anything I care to post. I'm not offensive, I
don't flame others. I didn't like Terror then and I like it less
now. It's a lame series of ideas, unworthy of being part of Planet
of the Apes. It takes ideas, as I said, that a Charles Band movie
wouldn't and asks a reader to accept them, which I didn't and don't.
The best single non-Movie adaptation was Evolution's Nightmare,
which blew Terror away. And when Tom Sutton took over the artwork,
which was the one good thing (thanks Mike Ploog) took a nosedive. Am
I telling others not to like it. Hell no. that would be like telling
Trekkies not to like Entercrud. But I don't like it and no one can
make me. It was bad, bad, bad.
>
>
>
> And I still think it and the Planet of the Apes TV series are
alternate realities, or microrealities, branched off from the main
time stream.
>
>
>
> Those are my guns and I'm sticking to them.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should fear
their people. -V, V For Vendetta
>
>
_________

Oooops, didn't read this early enough.Sorry!
Brendan

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> As one of the Moderators here, I'd like all of us within this
mutual
> admiration society, filled with love and peace, to remember when
> expressing our Law-given right to an opinion, not to get defensive
> and/or confrontational with those who are expressing their Law-
given
> right to the opposite opinion...Thanks...=)
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > First, I'll post anything I care to post. I'm not offensive, I
> don't flame others. I didn't like Terror then and I like it less
now.
> It's a lame series of ideas, unworthy of being part of Planet of
the
> Apes. It takes ideas, as I said, that a Charles Band movie
wouldn't
> and asks a reader to accept them, which I didn't and don't. The
best
> single non-Movie adaptation was Evolution's Nightmare, which blew
> Terror away. And when Tom Sutton took over the artwork, which was
the
> one good thing (thanks Mike Ploog) took a nosedive. Am I telling
> others not to like it. Hell no. that would be like telling
Trekkies
> not to like Entercrud. But I don't like it and no one can make me.
It
> was bad, bad, bad.
> >
> >
> >
> > And I still think it and the Planet of the Apes TV series are
> alternate realities, or microrealities, branched off from the main
> time stream.
> >
> >
> >
> > Those are my guns and I'm sticking to them.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should fear
> their people. -V, V For Vendetta
> >
> >
>
_________

In today's newspaper - two stories on apes.

Scientists are confirming what POTA fans have always known (or at least debated)

Orang-utans are more intelligent than Chimpanzees and Gorillas.

The study concluded that of 25 primate species studied Orangs had developed the best problem solving abilities.

The reasoning is that Orang-utans live mostly in high treetops - avoiding predators so they have developed a relaxed thinking lifestyle based with a culture and intelligence.

Other primates lead faster lives, so have developed different brains and skill sets.

Gorillas were ranked lower than Spider Monkeys....


In a second news article Chimpanzees have evolved more than Humans since the two split from a common ancestor.

Genome comparison shows that Chimp genes have changed more than human since they diverged as two species about 7 million years ago.

This research looked for genes that showed evidence of positive selection - those that evolved quickly because of an adaptive benefit in the environment - rather than those that changed more by genetic drift (random mutation).

Humans have 154 such genes  Chimpanzees have 233.

The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you have received this communication by mistake, please advise the sender immediately and delete the message and any attachments. Nothing in this email designates an information system for the purposes of Section 11(a) of the New Zealand Electronic Transactions Act 2002. Westpac New Zealand Limited.

I have to agree with Glen. Everyone is free to express their opinion here. Just don't get personal. We all have are own tastes about the various incarnations of POTA through the years. In this case it may be best to just agree to disagree.

I've lived all my life in NYC. As a result I don't like mustard on a Hamburger. No New Yorker does. The rest of the country disagrees with us. Does that make us wrong. No it just means we have different tastes.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> As one of the Moderators here, I'd like all of us within this mutual
> admiration society, filled with love and peace, to remember when
> expressing our Law-given right to an opinion, not to get defensive
> and/or confrontational with those who are expressing their Law-given
> right to the opposite opinion...Thanks...=)
>
> G
>