>From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [POTA] Don Pedro Colley mini interview
>Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 01:37:59 -0400
>
>Nothing like a clueless interviewer:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOqf1XFvOKc
>
>Rod Sterling...??
>
>
>DPC sounds like a really cool guy though.
>
>
>Chris L.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 4/4/2007 9:36:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> HotScheetz@... writes:
>
> .I saw both "The Time Machine" and "A
> Journey to the Centre of the Earth" in the theater when they first
> came out...
>
>
>
> Not that old.
> I was born in the early 60's
> I was lucky to have seen POTA
> in the theaters when it came out.
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com
>

<How can I attach a photo here>

After you click "reply", then click on the blue "Rich-Text Editor" link near the top.

Then, click on the "View HTML Source" checkbox

Then type the following for an image:

obviously, replace the URL with wherever your pic is hosted, change yourpicture.jpg with the actual name of your image, and you must include the width and height of your image in pixels.

Best,

Vin

This week's LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now available. This is part 3 of a special 5 part LESSON. Thanks to Glen and to everyone who contributed.

To view the LESSON click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://www.mediamercenary.com/LFTL.htm

Everyone will notice that the link points to an offsite location. Due to problems with Yahoo none of the files in the Group's Files Section can be accessed. Many groups are currently experiencing this problem and Yahoo has promised that they'll fix it as quickly as possible.

Have a great holiday weekend everybody!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

• The Internal Website  - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
• POTA Locations  - The places where the POTA films were shot.
• The Art Gallery  - Works of POTA Art by our members.
• The Database Section  - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.
• The Photos Section  - POTA pics contributed by members.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
>
> is he looking for something like this.....
>
> Kevin
>

Good news. Yahoo has fixed the problem with the Files Section so all files are now accessable to all members.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> This week's LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now available. This is part 3 of
> a special 5 part LESSON. Thanks to Glen and to everyone who contributed.
>
> To view the LESSON click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use
> this link: http://www.mediamercenary.com/LFTL.htm
> <http://www.mediamercenary.com/LFTL.htm>
>
> Everyone will notice that the link points to an offsite location. Due to
> problems with Yahoo none of the files in the Group's Files Section can
> be accessed. Many groups are currently experiencing this problem and
> Yahoo has promised that they'll fix it as quickly as possible.
>
> Have a great holiday weekend everybody!
>
> Visit all the Group's special features including:
>
> * The Internal Website
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm> - Original
> POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and
> much, much more. * POTA Locations
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTAlocations.htm> -
> The places where the POTA films were shot. * The Art Gallery
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheArtGallery.htm> -
> Works of POTA Art by our members. * The Database Section
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database> - POTA info
> ranging from Characters to Comics. * The Photos Section
> <http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos> - POTA pics
> contributed by members.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "brendan486" <nzape@...> wrote:
>
> Photo # 10 of foreign posters/Planet, in the Photo file folders is
> from Yugoslavia, but you probably know that. However it is listed as
> unknown.

Thanks Brendan, I've made the name change on pic.

And thank you to Tim for providing pics of foreign posters for all the films.

>
> I am searching for a good link that might show many or all of the
> Foreign Lobby Cards available for Planet and the other Ape films.
> Any hints anyone?
>
> Brendan.
> (a foreigner)
>

There are pics of all the US lobby cards in the One Sheets section of the Group Website, on each films' page:

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Planet.htm 

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Beneath.htm

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Escape.htm

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Conquest.htm

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Battle.htm

In regard to lobby cards from other countries, Tim would be our resident expert.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Good news. Yahoo has fixed the problem with the Files Section so all
> files are now accessable to all members.
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > This week's LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now available. This is
part 3
> of
> > a special 5 part LESSON. Thanks to Glen and to everyone who
> contributed.
> >
> > To view the LESSON click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or
use
> > this link: http://www.mediamercenary.com/LFTL.htm
> > <http://www.mediamercenary.com/LFTL.htm>
> >
> > Everyone will notice that the link points to an offsite location.
Due
> to
> > problems with Yahoo none of the files in the Group's Files
Section can
> > be accessed. Many groups are currently experiencing this problem
and
> > Yahoo has promised that they'll fix it as quickly as possible.
> >
> > Have a great holiday weekend everybody!
> >
> > Visit all the Group's special features including:
> >
> > * The Internal Website
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm> - Original
> > POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading
Cards
> and
> > much, much more. * POTA Locations
> >
<http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTAlocations.htm> -
> > The places where the POTA films were shot. * The Art Gallery
> >
<http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheArtGallery.htm> -
> > Works of POTA Art by our members. * The Database Section
> > <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database> - POTA info
> > ranging from Characters to Comics. * The Photos Section
> > <http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos> - POTA pics
> > contributed by members.
> >
>

> I am searching for a good link that might show many or all of the
> Foreign Lobby Cards available for Planet and the other Ape films.
> Any hints anyone?

> Brendan.
> (a foreigner)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
>
> The site has also been redesigned and reorganized (finally).
>
> Hunter
>

Thank God! Glad you finally fired the guy that did the old design of your site;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Shane Miller" <masonverger12@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all
> I will apologize beforehand if these questions have been
answered at
> an earlier time or are in any way considered to be dumb. I would
like
> to know these answers, if the answers exist.
>
> 1. Was Don Murray every approached about including his character
> in "Battle?" Breck was in the Marvel magazines (if I am correct
with
> some kind of mask)and I know the recent mini-series showed exactly
> how "the bomb killed the old governor." Or did his 'death' in the
> original ending rule this out?
>
They had plans for BATTLE to be made while shooting CONQUET, and
while he was apparently offered Breck in the last one, he didn't want
to do it, so they killed him off in the movie...

> 2. What was the exact number of Mendez leaders in the house of
Mendez?

XXVI

>
> I appreciate your time and happy birthday apes!

Sorry I missed this one...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 4/7/2007 2:57:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> PofTAfan@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> I have some German lobby cards from Escape
>
>
>
>
>
> I have the set of 18 Conquest French lobby cards. And one British
one from
> the same film.
> Bruce
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com
>

> Perhaps they can be scanned and sent to the group for reference.
> If there is room.
> I can scan a couple of Mexican cards I have and some more on the way.

Golden Key did a really good job recreating the look of the film especially in regard to costumes and sets. Some panel look like they took a still from the film and traced it.

In the panel you mention, it does look like the Radio City marquee. As to why they included the statue in the last panel, I imagine the artist took some creative license to tie things in with the first film.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> Apesters, maybe you can help me with this. I think that Hunter has this on
> his fantastic site as well. (By the way, Hunter, you ARE the King, no doubt
> about that!)
>
>
>
> In the Gold Key comic adaptation of BENEATH, when Brent and Nova came out of
> the tunnel, it looks as if they walked past what must be part of the Radio
> City marquee (there's something that appears to say, ..."sic Hall...RAD" at
> the top of the picture, right about the balloon where Brent says, "Hear it?
> A hum? We're heading toward it, whatever it is!"
>
>
>
> I wondered as to why they showed the back view of the Statue Of Liberty at
> the end of the comic adaptation, too, right when the Doomsday Bomb was
> activated.
>
>
>
> Zach
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@... wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone know of anywhere that sells T-Shirts with the Apes
posters on em?
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 4/7/2007 2:57:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> PofTAfan@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> I have some German lobby cards from Escape
>
>
>
>
>
> I have the set of 18 Conquest French lobby cards. And one British
one from
> the same film.
> Bruce
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com
>

> Perhaps they can be scanned and sent to the group for

> If there is room.
> I can scan a couple of Mexican cards I have and some more on the way.

Thanks Bruce,

They look great. All three have been up loaded to the Photos Section in a folder named Foreign Lobby Cards .

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
>
> here are three of the lobby cards from Escape. Let me know if any of
> these come out.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
>
> here are three of the lobby cards from Escape. Let me know if any of
> these come out.
>







____________

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
>
> here are three of the lobby cards from Escape. Let me know if any of
> these come out.
>







____________

Thanks again Kevin,

These have all been uploaded to the folder in the Photos Section.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
>
> The last two.
>
> Kevin
>

> The German APES lobbies I've seen were all attatched to one another

> big poster-sized sheet.
> I don't own any though-yet.
> Bruce

>
>
>
> > The German APES lobbies I've seen were all attatched to one

> on one
> > big poster-sized sheet.
> > I don't own any though-yet.
> > Bruce
>
>
> The German Lobby Cards hosted on Hunters site are all attached as

> poster sized sheet. They are scanned individually but still

> Very fragile serration though. The more they are handled, the more
> they are torn away from the others, if you know what I mean.Also

> are not card material but Glossy Poster paper.
> Brendan.

>

Thanks guys. They really look great.

https://pota.goatley.com/lobby-cards/ 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> Bruce's and Kevin's scans have also been added to my site.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Hunter
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> I agree, James, they really did do an excellent job. Thanks for your
prompt
> response.
>
>
>
> Zach
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Bruce,
>
> They look great. All three have been up loaded to the Photos Section
in
> a folder named Foreign Lobby Cards
> <http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/browse/bfc8> .
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@ wrote:
> >
> > here are three of the lobby cards from Escape. Let me know if any of
> > these come out.
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks guys. They really look great.
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/lobby-cards/
> <https://pota.goatley.com/lobby-cards/>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@> wrote:
> >
> > Bruce's and Kevin's scans have also been added to my site.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Hunter
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Zach.
>
> Take a look at the panel of Brent and the Skipper in the middle of
page
> 6. It looks just like the shot in the film.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@> wrote:
> >
> > I agree, James, they really did do an excellent job. Thanks for
your
> prompt
> > response.
> >
> >
> >
> > Zach
> >
>

Thanks to Glen for a group of Foreign stills and lobby cards from Beneath. These pics come from the UK, Germany and Brussals and are available in the Photos Section.

Good eye Rory!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> OK, so I watch PLANET yesterday for the umpteenth time (I stopped counting
> after 250 viewings), and what did I spot I've never noticed before? Powerlines
> in a shot! It's at 1:23:09 into the movie, after Lucius helps Taylor and Nova
> escape and the camera titles up and Zira says the line, "I told you not to
> bring the other one!" Freeze the shot and look at what's just behind Lucius'
> back. Three powerlines against the blue sky. Of course, there would have had
> to have been electricity brought into the Fox ranch to power all the equipment,
> so I guess here are three of the lines bringing it in. Incredible I never
> noticed it before.
>
> Later in the movie, at 1:29:11, I also noticed, atop a cliff just before the
> nose of Heston's horse covers it (it goes past very quickly), what looks like
> a tower for powerlines in the Arizona desert.
>
> Check it out.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> **************************************
> See what's free at
> http://www.aol.com.
>

>>Golden Key did a really good job recreating the look of the

>> Which is too bad because he did some good stand alone stuff;

>>I'm currently in contact with a nice woman there. There are a

>>Sounds like he takes his character name

>>They had plans for BATTLE to be made while shooting CONQUET, and

I believe the names for both characters come from the promotional Herald issued for the film.

Oddly they switched Albina and Caspay's names by mistake.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> You know, for as much as I've heard/read that both DPC's and Victor
> Buono's characters had names, I've yet to see it printed on any official
> production material. All the scripts I've seen/read say "Negro" and "Fat
> Man".
>
> BTW, was it 'Adripopo' or 'Adiposo' that was being touted as the name of
> VB's character? These two sites credit the latter, but I've seen both.
>
> http://www.celebopedia.com/heston/films/beneathplanetapes.htmlbr>>
> http://www.wildwildwest.org/www/otherbio/vb/vbcredits.htmlbr>>
>
> Chris L.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> And then promptly cut the scene from the movie, which caused the
> confusion in the first place. BUT... if Breck's character appeared in the
> initial version of the BATTLE scripts (see Marvel's adaptation), the
> script must have been ready while CONQUEST was being shot and then the
> change was made while filming and his character was killed off, right?

The first draft story outline for Battle (available on Hunter's site) is dated July 5, 1972. That was after Conquest was released. And since in the final version of Conquest Breck wasn't killed, his character was available to appear in Battle.

>
> Weird that the Marvel adaptation has Breck, but the novelization features
> Kolp. You'd figure it to be the other way around since the novelization
> was out in conjunction with the film and Marvel's adaptation was done a
> couple years later.
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>

David Gerrold wrote the novelization as the film was being made. He even visited the set. Thus the novelization was very close to the final film.

Marvel stated at the time that their adaption was based on the version of the script they were sent by FOX. This was obviously not the final version since there are many differences with the film.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> And then promptly cut the scene from the movie, which caused the
> confusion in the first place. BUT... if Breck's character appeared
in the
> initial version of the BATTLE scripts (see Marvel's adaptation), the
> script must have been ready while CONQUEST was being shot and then
the
> change was made while filming and his character was killed off,
right?
>
> Weird that the Marvel adaptation has Breck, but the novelization
features
> Kolp. You'd figure it to be the other way around since the
novelization
> was out in conjunction with the film and Marvel's adaptation was
done a
> couple years later.
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> >>They had plans for BATTLE to be made while shooting CONQUET, and
> while he was apparently offered Breck in the last one, he didn't
want
> to do it, so they killed him off in the movie... <<
>

Unknown. Hoskyns is never seen again after the scene in Breck's office.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> One question that I have is whatever happened to Hoskyns (or Hoskins), Kolp
> s partner?
>
>
>
> Zach
>

Double click on the image to enlarge it.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> Could you please enlarge this whenever you can, because I can barely read
> it! Thanks.
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>

Saul Bass was the 'Title Designer' for North by Northwest. According to his listing on IMBD he wasn't involved in any of the POTA films. Most likely a case of FOX ripping off someone else's idea.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Looking at the amazing Beneath pics reminded me of a really nerdish
> point.I recently bought Hitchcock's North by Northwest on dvd and the
> poster title for the movie has arrows on the title letters in a style
> very similar to the 'up/down' arrows on the Beneath posters.The
> similarity is striking when you see it.I was wondering if ther's any
> design connection betwen the two movies.If Hitchcock had directed the
> first Apes, maybe we'd know who murdered Stewart. John, Scrolls.
>

The group website has scans of all the Promotional Heralds in the One Sheets section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/OneSheets.htm

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@... wrote:
>
>
> That is so freaking cool!
>
> Why isn't there a book with all this stuff in it?
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@... wrote:
>
>
> It was good. Thoughtful with not that much action. Data is basically
a redo of Questor. but if you look at Roddenberry's stuff, he never let
an idea die, he just recycled them.
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
Three powerlines against the blue sky. Of course, there would have had
to have been electricity brought into the Fox ranch to power all the
equipment, so I guess here are three of the lines bringing it in.

> Check it out.
>
> -- Rory

> Which brings this question to mind:
>
> Apes do not eat meat. So where does the leather for their clothing

>
> How well does human leather dye?

>>The first draft story outline for Battle (available on Hunter's

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> That's what confuses me though. Even though his character's death wasn't
> in the final version of CONQUEST, it was nonetheless filmed because he
> said that he didn't want to reprise the character so that was a way to
> address the character's absence in any subsequent movies.

No one ever said Murray said he didn't want to reprise the role while they were filming Conquest. When they filmed Conquest it was assumed to be the last of the series so the subject of anyone reprising their roles probably never came up. Frank Capra said that the decision to kill Armando was based on them thinking it was the last film.

> So why then was his character included in the first draft of BATTLE (dated July 5th 1972)
> when CONQUEST was already in theaters and the whole issue of him not
> wanting to come back (and how to resolve it) was already months in the
> past? There were lines to address the missing characters ("If the bomb
> hadn't killed the old Governor...", "The black man is the brother of my
> predecessor's personal assistant..."). Do we know for a fact that the
> death scene was filmed because Don Murray said (during filming of
> CONQUEST) that he didn't want to do a sequel? Or was the scene filmed,
> cut because of the violence,

I beleive it was in the original test version and then cut when they tried to tone down the violence.

>  and then he bowed out during preproduction
> for BATTLE and then the "If the bomb hadn't killed the old Governor..."
> line was put in to address his absence?
>
> And why we're on the subject, anyone know why Hari Rhodes declined to
> appear in BATTLE?
>
>
> Chris L.
>

According to Russo's book once they decided to do Battle, Murray and Rhodes were contacted. It was then that Murray said he wasn't interested. Rhodes was committed to another project so he wasn't available.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:
>
> Mighty World of Marvel issue 237 is now available to download from
Hunter's site. This week we switch to the Future History Chronicles
storyline, and we'll continue that next issue as well. Don't fret
Terror lovers, we'll get back to Jason and Alexander in issue 239.
This week's issue also includes a two page letter column.
>
> Right after I posted last week, Hunter added the Cracked
parody "Planets of the Creatures," contributed by Neil Foster. Thanks
Neil, and sorry I was too quick with last week's announcement to
include it then.
>
> Also last week, Hunter made some long-planned changes to his
site, reorganizing it to make things a little easier to find.
>
> Since last week he's added a video by Darren Stockford from the
recent memorabilia show in the UK , an article on that show (thanks
to Dave Ballard), a number of foreign lobby cards and promotional
stills (thanks to Brendan McCaul, Kevin and Bruce from the PotA
group, and Glen Sheetz), an invitation and information card for a
promotional screening of Beneath (thanks to Chris Lawless) and the
last issue in our Simian Scrolls scanning project. The first 6 hard-
to-find issues of Simian Scrolls are now all available in PDF format.
>
> I'm on vacation for the next two weeks, so you're all on your own
to find you way to Hunter's site next week and the week after for the
next two Marvel UK issues.
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>

>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@> wrote:
> >
> > That's what confuses me though. Even though his character's death
> wasn't
> > in the final version of CONQUEST, it was nonetheless filmed

> > said that he didn't want to reprise the character so that was a

> > address the character's absence in any subsequent movies.
>
> No one ever said Murray said he didn't want to reprise the role

> they were filming Conquest. When they filmed Conquest it was

> be the last of the series so the subject of anyone reprising their

> probably never came up. Frank Capra said that the decision to kill
> Armando was based on them thinking it was the last film.
>
>
> > So why then was his character included in the first draft of

> (dated July 5th 1972)
> > when CONQUEST was already in theaters and the whole issue of him

> > wanting to come back (and how to resolve it) was already months

> > past? There were lines to address the missing characters ("If the

> > hadn't killed the old Governor...", "The black man is the brother

> my
> > predecessor's personal assistant..."). Do we know for a fact that

> > death scene was filmed because Don Murray said (during filming of
> > CONQUEST) that he didn't want to do a sequel? Or was the scene

> > cut because of the violence,
>
> I beleive it was in the original test version and then cut when they
> tried to tone down the violence.
>
> > and then he bowed out during preproduction
> > for BATTLE and then the "If the bomb hadn't killed the old
> Governor..."
> > line was put in to address his absence?
> >
> > And why we're on the subject, anyone know why Hari Rhodes

> > appear in BATTLE?
> >
> >
> > Chris L.
> >
>
>
> According to Russo's book once they decided to do Battle, Murray and
> Rhodes were contacted. It was then that Murray said he wasn't
> interested. Rhodes was committed to another project so he wasn't
> available.
>

The web master over at ANSANAUT "The Last Flight of the Icarus" web site has been gracious enough to host some of my CGI renders of Taylor's Command Module. If you're interested, head on over to ANSANAUT. This is a great web site to peruse if you haven't seen it already. My submission is in the Art Gallery. Best, Vin

> It's often a good rule of thumb with Apes to assume
> that cuts and
> changes were buget driven--no Goldsmith for Beneath,
> cut landing
> scenes in Escape,Montalban only just being
> shoe-horned into Conquest
> after budget shuffles.My guess is that Darden was
> going to be cheaper
> than Murray--it must have been a late decision as
> Breck was
> definitely in there originally and Marvel worked
> from the earlier
> script( even though Marvel's adaptation was about
> three years after
> the release of the film!).Personally, I'm glad we
> got Kolp, not
> Breck, as Breck was(before 'Revolution'!) a really
> shallow
> uninteresting character.John, Scrolls.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless
> <lawford42@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That's what confuses me though. Even though his
> character's death
> > wasn't
> > > in the final version of CONQUEST, it was
> nonetheless filmed
> because he
> > > said that he didn't want to reprise the
> character so that was a
> way to
> > > address the character's absence in any
> subsequent movies.
> >
> > No one ever said Murray said he didn't want to
> reprise the role
> while
> > they were filming Conquest. When they filmed
> Conquest it was
> assumed to
> > be the last of the series so the subject of anyone
> reprising their
> roles
> > probably never came up. Frank Capra said that the
> decision to kill
> > Armando was based on them thinking it was the last
> film.
> >
> >
> > > So why then was his character included in the
> first draft of
> BATTLE
> > (dated July 5th 1972)
> > > when CONQUEST was already in theaters and the
> whole issue of him
> not
> > > wanting to come back (and how to resolve it) was
> already months
> in the
> > > past? There were lines to address the missing
> characters ("If the
> bomb
> > > hadn't killed the old Governor...", "The black
> man is the brother
> of
> > my
> > > predecessor's personal assistant..."). Do we
> know for a fact that
> the
> > > death scene was filmed because Don Murray said
> (during filming of
> > > CONQUEST) that he didn't want to do a sequel? Or
> was the scene
> filmed,
> > > cut because of the violence,
> >
> > I beleive it was in the original test version and
> then cut when they
> > tried to tone down the violence.
> >
> > > and then he bowed out during preproduction
> > > for BATTLE and then the "If the bomb hadn't
> killed the old
> > Governor..."
> > > line was put in to address his absence?
> > >
> > > And why we're on the subject, anyone know why
> Hari Rhodes
> declined to
> > > appear in BATTLE?
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris L.
> > >
> >
> >
> > According to Russo's book once they decided to do
> Battle, Murray and
> > Rhodes were contacted. It was then that Murray
> said he wasn't
> > interested. Rhodes was committed to another
> project so he wasn't
> > available.
> >
>
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@... wrote:
>
>
> Well horses do die and they do get killed in accidents. From the
way the Gorilla army trained, that could be one possibility. Of
course they could have used a lot of human skin from humans with back
hair for both. Or scalps for that matter.
>
>
>
>
>
> People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should fear
their people. -V, V For Vendetta
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glen <HotScheetz@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 7:20 pm
> Subject: [POTA] Re: Powerlines on the POTA!
>
> Here's something to toast your noodle -- what animals gave the fur-
> lined hides for the saddles, and the "scarecrows"?...
>
>
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