--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "brendan486" <nzape@...> wrote:

> Confusing. I am not sure who I am either
> Brendan.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@... wrote:
>
>
> I, being a Native New Yorker (Brooklyn) would go to war over two
things;
>
> 1 - Mustard Goes on Hot Dogs.
>
> 2 - Ketchup (NOT CATSUP, unless its in a tree) goes on Burgers.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should fear
their people. -V, V For Vendetta
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James <JamesA1102@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 7:01 pm
> Subject: [POTA] Re: Terror on the Planet of the Apes
>
> I've lived all my life in NYC. As a result I don't like mustard on
a Hamburger. No New Yorker does. The rest of the country disagrees
with us. Does that make us wrong. No it just means we have different
tastes.
>
__________

 

frohike60@... Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com 20/04/2007 01:31 P.M. Please respond to pota

To:        pota@yahoogroups.com         cc:                 Subject:        Re: [POTA] Re: Terror on the Planet of the Apes

I, being a Native New Yorker (Brooklyn) would go to war over two things;
1 - Mustard Goes on Hot Dogs.
2 - Ketchup (NOT CATSUP, unless its in a tree) goes on Burgers.
 
People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should fear their people. -V, V For Vendetta
-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 7:01 pm
Subject: [POTA] Re: Terror on the Planet of the Apes

I've lived all my life in NYC. As a result I don't like mustard on a Hamburger. No New Yorker does. The rest of the country disagrees with us. Does that make us wrong. No it just means we have different tastes.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
>
> Down here we put sliced beetroot on our burgers and fried eggs.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> frohike60@...
> Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com
> 20/04/2007 01:31 P.M.
> Please respond to pota
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> cc:
> Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Terror on the Planet of the
Apes
>
>
> I, being a Native New Yorker (Brooklyn) would go to war over two
things;
> 1 - Mustard Goes on Hot Dogs.
> 2 - Ketchup (NOT CATSUP, unless its in a tree) goes on Burgers.
>
> People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should fear
their
> people. -V, V For Vendetta
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James <JamesA1102@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 7:01 pm
> Subject: [POTA] Re: Terror on the Planet of the Apes
>
> I've lived all my life in NYC. As a result I don't like mustard on
a
> Hamburger. No New Yorker does. The rest of the country disagrees
with us.
> Does that make us wrong. No it just means we have different tastes.
> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's
free
> from AOL at AOL.com.
>
>
>
> The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you have received
this communication by mistake, please advise the sender immediately
and delete the message and any attachments. Nothing in this email
designates an information system for the purposes of Section 11(a) of
the New Zealand Electronic Transactions Act 2002. Westpac New Zealand
Limited.
>

>
> Hmm, raw beets on eggs doesn't sound too bad...I might have to try
> that...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@ wrote:
> >
> > Down here we put sliced beetroot on our burgers and fried eggs.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > frohike60@
> > Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > 20/04/2007 01:31 P.M.
> > Please respond to pota
> >
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > cc:
> > Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Terror on the Planet of

> Apes
> >
> >
> > I, being a Native New Yorker (Brooklyn) would go to war over two
> things;
> > 1 - Mustard Goes on Hot Dogs.
> > 2 - Ketchup (NOT CATSUP, unless its in a tree) goes on Burgers.
> >
> > People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should fear
> their
> > people. -V, V For Vendetta
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James <JamesA1102@>
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 7:01 pm
> > Subject: [POTA] Re: Terror on the Planet of the Apes
> >
> > I've lived all my life in NYC. As a result I don't like mustard

> a
> > Hamburger. No New Yorker does. The rest of the country disagrees
> with us.
> > Does that make us wrong. No it just means we have different

> > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's
> free
> > from AOL at AOL.com.
> >
> >
> >
> > The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you have

> this communication by mistake, please advise the sender immediately
> and delete the message and any attachments. Nothing in this email
> designates an information system for the purposes of Section 11(a)

> the New Zealand Electronic Transactions Act 2002. Westpac New

> Limited.
> >
>

>
> Always the peace maker gets it in the neck!
> John, I was getting at the Person who doesn't like Terror. He was
> raking up stuff already closed.
> I like Terror. I said so last reality.
> If we have a Paddy fight, I'll win. I'm a Northern Barbarian, just
> like Conan. You Southerners have lived in comfort to your detriment
> for far too long...
> Swift upper shamrock to the ghoulies. Defend that with your limp
> Leek..
> Brendan.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> >
> > Brendan you back stabbing maggot--you can criticise my wife, my
> > mother, my dress sense and my fat gut, but mister you punch low
> when
> > you criticise Terror in all of its magnificence.Clear the room,
> this
> > is a fight between Paddies and it won't be pretty. It will make
> the
> > Eagles Farewell Tour look like a tea party.I notice you didn't
> have
> > the balls to say this when I was within swinging distance of you
> in
> > Birmingham! John, Scrolls.
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So? Alternate realities can have minor differences (no dogs)
> as
> > > well as similarities (clothing). You can believe what you want,
> I
> > > still can't beleive that Doug Moench one of my favorite writers
> of
> > > the time wrote such drek as that. The bit with Gunpowder and
> such
> > > might as well have been called Daniel Simian of the Wild
> Frontier.
> > > And that recurring bs with Brutus. Shit, just put one through
> his
> > > head already and move on to a new villain. Jeez...
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Speaking of alternate realities... Have I crossed over?
> > > I recall the same discussion (!) in a reality I was in a couple
> of
> > > months back...
> > > Let it go people. This reality is ahead of the last.
> > > Brendan.
> > >
> >
>

> of Maya sacrifice.John, Scrolls.
> >

>3e. Re: Terror on the Planet of the Apes
>I've lived all my life in NYC. As a result I don't like mustard on a
>Hamburger. No New Yorker does. The rest of the country disagrees with
>us. Does that make us wrong. No it just means we have different tastes.

>Posted by: "brendan486" nzape@... brendan486
>They sacrificed Maya from Space 1999? Aww that's a shame.I was hoping
>she would shape shift into an actor....

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
>
> >3e. Re: Terror on the Planet of the Apes
> >I've lived all my life in NYC. As a result I don't like mustard on
a
> >Hamburger. No New Yorker does. The rest of the country disagrees
with
> >us. Does that make us wrong. No it just means we have different
tastes.
>
> Um....er....uh.....
>
> I....um....like mustard on hamburgers, and I live on Long Island.
>
> D'oh!
>
> >Posted by: "brendan486" nzape@... brendan486
> >They sacrificed Maya from Space 1999? Aww that's a shame.I was
hoping
> >she would shape shift into an actor....
>
> LOL! Okay, that made me laugh.
>

> Here's something to toast your noodle -- what animals gave the fur-
> lined hides for the saddles, and the "scarecrows"?...

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "aboro3085" <aboro3085@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
>
>
> > Here's something to toast your noodle -- what animals gave the fur-
> > lined hides for the saddles, and the "scarecrows"?...
>
> It's bear fur.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> 'Ketchup' means 'tomato sauce', right? I've no idea what 'catsup'
is
> and my only real demands foodwise are no fish, prawns, anything
that
> still has the shape it had whilst alive, anything done so rare that
a
> good vet could save it and anything that is 'good' for me.I'd
rather
> die fat and misrable than thin and misrable.Also, you Americans
scare
> me a lot with your eating habits and sauces--reminds me of some
sort
> of Maya sacrifice.John, Scrolls.
> >
> > Hmm, raw beets on eggs doesn't sound too bad...I might have to
try
> > that...
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Down here we put sliced beetroot on our burgers and fried eggs.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > frohike60@
> > > Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > 20/04/2007 01:31 P.M.
> > > Please respond to pota
> > >
> > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > cc:
> > > Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Terror on the Planet of
> the
> > Apes
> > >
> > >
> > > I, being a Native New Yorker (Brooklyn) would go to war over
two
> > things;
> > > 1 - Mustard Goes on Hot Dogs.
> > > 2 - Ketchup (NOT CATSUP, unless its in a tree) goes on Burgers.
> > >
> > > People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should
fear
> > their
> > > people. -V, V For Vendetta
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: James <JamesA1102@>
> > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 7:01 pm
> > > Subject: [POTA] Re: Terror on the Planet of the Apes
> > >
> > > I've lived all my life in NYC. As a result I don't like mustard
> on
> > a
> > > Hamburger. No New Yorker does. The rest of the country
disagrees
> > with us.
> > > Does that make us wrong. No it just means we have different
> tastes.
> > > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about
what's
> > free
> > > from AOL at AOL.com.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you have
> received
> > this communication by mistake, please advise the sender
immediately
> > and delete the message and any attachments. Nothing in this email
> > designates an information system for the purposes of Section 11
(a)
> of
> > the New Zealand Electronic Transactions Act 2002. Westpac New
> Zealand
> > Limited.
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> Aha!...Maybe for the saddles, but the scarecrows have an orange fur
on
> them...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "aboro3085" <aboro3085@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Here's something to toast your noodle -- what animals gave the
fur-
> > > lined hides for the saddles, and the "scarecrows"?...
> >
> > It's bear fur.
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rob reading" <readingrob@...> wrote:
>
> My friend Wayne has the limited Japanese dvd box set that came with
the Icarus space ship. The picture quality is a lot clearer and also
has about 10 minutes behind the scenes of the television series. Does
anyone have a copy of these discs and would be prepared to duplicate
them? I would to see the behind the scenes clip. Apparently shows
Roddy in not a very good mood.

> I picked this one up on eBay for 3 bucks-it's the
> 8th printing dated Aug
> 1975. Never saw this cover before.
> Bruce
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's
> free at http://www.aol.com
>

----- Original Message -----

From: stenosaurus@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 4:07 PM

Subject: [POTA] Battle For the Planet of the Apes-different cover

   I picked this one up on eBay for 3 bucks-it's the 8th printing dated Aug 1975. Never saw this cover before.

  Bruce

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 4/20/2007 4:08:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> aboro3085@... writes:
>
> > Here's something to toast your noodle -- what animals gave the
fur-
> > lined hides for the saddles, and the "scarecrows"
>
>
>
> I imagine the gorillas go through a lot of horses.
> As for the fur on the scarecrows, I'd say it's ape
> fur. If you're going to forbid them from the Zone
> what could be scarier than that? That's the point.
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com
>

>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Randy" <tikiman1705@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm sure all of those POTA members my age......(40) will remember

> > jazzed we we're for the POTA TV series. Imagine My

> > when, in the 1st shot of the series. They blew the whole thing.

> > child. WITH A DOG!!!!!!
>
> How can you say you were 11 years old in 1974 when the series made

> debut? If you are 40, then you would have been 7 (or 8/going on 8)

> it aired. Something is quite off with your math.
>
> >
> > Didn't anyone at 20th Century Fox watch their own movies????

> was
> > the continuity. Oh well. it was still a cool show. It had Dr

> > What else could you want?
> >
>
> I have to correct you here. The orangutan in the TV series isn't

> Zaius. Dr. Zaius is only in PLANET and BENEATH. The Zaius character

> TV is a High Council member, but not the Minister of Science/Chief
> Defender of The Faith that Dr. Zaius was in the films. They are not

> same ape, nor are they supposed to be.
>

> Yeh, I have that one too and I could never figure
> out
> why they have a Conquest picture on it.
> --- stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> > I picked this one up on eBay for 3 bucks-it's the
> > 8th printing dated Aug
> > 1975. Never saw this cover before.
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** See what's
> > free at http://www.aol.com
> >
>
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Randy" <tikiman1705@...> wrote:

>
> >
> Gee. Thought we were supposed to be having fun here.

> So much for a friendly group discussing some movies we all
> enjoyed.
>

Randy is right. We our supposed to be having fun here but lately we've been getting the reputation as an unfriendly group and scaring off new members. I blame myself letting things get out of control recently.

While we don't wish to censor anyone, we do ask that everyone adhere to the Posting Guidelines: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/PostingGuidelines.doc. As it says on the Yahoo Home Page, "All related topics, viewpoints and spirited debate are welcome. However, keep all discussions friendly, on topic & PG-13."  However, lately there have been to many nasty arguments about trivial matters. That stops now. The Posting Guidelines will be strictly enforced.

I know many of us have very passionate opinions about POTA and its various incarnations in film, TV and comics. That doesn't mean we can't discuss these things in a civil matter like adults. If someone has a different opinion, you are free to disagree, but do so respectfully. There is no reason for a jihad just because someone dislikes a particular movie or TV episode that you happen to love. Remember debate the issue not the person.

Also, we've always tried to keep the group family friendly. Lately the language here has gotten a bit raw. Please tone it down a little. We do have members that like to visit the group with their kids to share their love of POTA.

This has always been a great group and those of us who run it ask for nothing in return. All we want is to maintain it as a safe haven where all can come and celebrate POTA.

Thanks.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> I picked this one up on eBay for 3 bucks-it's the 8th printing
dated Aug
> 1975. Never saw this cover before.
> Bruce
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com
>

>
>
> Long Island? That's not really part of NYC anyhow.
>
> Begone Outsider!

> People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should fear

>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Handley <handleyr@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 7:26 am
> Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3468
>
> I....um....like mustard on hamburgers, and I live on Long Island.
>

I'm sure there have been fan-made POTA films over the years but I haven't seen many myself. This is the only recent one that I'm aware of: http://msotis.home.mindspring.com/potmtrlr.wmv

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "llevik1" <david.kivell@...> wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever seen or made a short Ape movie ? I have seen fan
> photos of people wearing masks and prosthetics and there are plenty of
> fan fiction stories which could be adapted into short movies ! For
> example I'm sure many of you have seen the excellent Beware the Beast
> comic strip on Hunters site
> https://pota.goatley.com/beast.htmlbr>> That story only contains one ape Gideon , so its not like you would
> need a large cast of Apes in make up. With the rise of youtube etc and
> cheap video cameras i'm sure a small group of fans could come up with
> something quite intresting.
> You would not even have to mention Planet of the Apes in the title or
> use the same costumes , i think as long as the story was good and
> prosthetics used the outcome would be something a lot of us would like
> to see.
>

The group website has a page dedicated to Novel Covers:  http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/NovelCovers.htm

The covers for the sequel novelizations are also included.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@... wrote:
>
>
> That's odd. My copy of battle has that cover, with more Gorillas (and what looks like a chimp in the background), but the lettering is yellow and rounded. THE MADNESS OF APES AND MEN ERUPTS IN SAVAGERY THAT ROCKS THE EARTH!
>
>
>
> And my Conquest has a picture of Lisa with the shadows of apes in front of her, and a shotgun being held up in the air.
>
>
>
>
>
> People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should fear their people. -V, V For Vendetta
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stenosaurus@...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 6:07 pm
> Subject: [POTA] Battle For the Planet of the Apes-different cover
>
> I picked this one up on eBay for 3 bucks-it's the 8th printing dated Aug 1975. Never saw this cover before.
> ____________> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
>

Here you go: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/spnew

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dario" <darios@...> wrote:
>
> I get the daily digests from this groups so by default I don't get to
> see the attachments, but even when I go to the group site and go to
> this message, I still don't see the picture. Can someone either put it
> in the Photos or Files section, or provide an URL so I can see this cover?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dario
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@ wrote:
> >
> > I picked this one up on eBay for 3 bucks-it's the 8th printing
> dated Aug
> > 1975. Never saw this cover before.
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** See what's free at
> http://www.aol.com.
> >
>

>From: "James" <JamesA1102@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [POTA] Re: Fan made Ape films ?
>Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:33:13 -0000
>
>
>I'm sure there have been fan-made POTA films over the years but I
>haven't seen many myself. This is the only recent one that I'm aware of:
>http://msotis.home.mindspring.com/potmtrlr.wmv
><http://msotis.home.mindspring.com/potmtrlr.wmv>
>
>
>--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "llevik1" <david.kivell@...> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone ever seen or made a short Ape movie ? I have seen fan
> > photos of people wearing masks and prosthetics and there are plenty of
> > fan fiction stories which could be adapted into short movies ! For
> > example I'm sure many of you have seen the excellent Beware the Beast
> > comic strip on Hunters site
> > https://pota.goatley.com/beast.html"
> > That story only contains one ape Gideon , so its not like you would
> > need a large cast of Apes in make up. With the rise of youtube etc and
> > cheap video cameras i'm sure a small group of fans could come up with
> > something quite intresting.
> > You would not even have to mention Planet of the Apes in the title or
> > use the same costumes , i think as long as the story was good and
> > prosthetics used the outcome would be something a lot of us would like
> > to see.
> >
>
>

I just saw that. Wow! Awesome! Great acting and realistic makeup.

Donna

>From: "James" <JamesA1102@aol. com>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups. com
>To: pota@yahoogroups. com
>Subject: [POTA] Re: Fan made Ape films ?
>Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:33:13 -0000
>
>
>I'm sure there have been fan-made POTA films over the years but I
>haven't seen many myself. This is the only recent one that I'm aware of:
>http://msotis. home.mindspring. com/potmtrlr. wmv
><http://msotis. home.mindspring. com/potmtrlr. wmv>
>
>
>--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "llevik1" <david.kivell@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone ever seen or made a short Ape movie ? I have seen fan
> > photos of people wearing masks and prosthetics and there are plenty of
> > fan fiction stories which could be adapted into short movies ! For
> > example I'm sure many of you have seen the excellent Beware the Beast
> > comic strip on Hunters site
> > https://pota. goatley.com/ beast.html"
> > That story only contains one ape Gideon , so its not like you would
> > need a large cast of Apes in make up. With the rise of youtube etc and
> > cheap video cameras i'm sure a small group of fans could come up with
> > something quite intresting.
> > You would not even have to mention Planet of the Apes in the title or
> > use the same costumes , i think as long as the story was good and
> > prosthetics used the outcome would be something a lot of us would like
> > to see.
> >
>
>

---

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "llevik1" <david.kivell@...> wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever seen or made a short Ape movie ? I have seen fan
> photos of people wearing masks and prosthetics and there are plenty of
> fan fiction stories which could be adapted into short movies ! For
> example I'm sure many of you have seen the excellent Beware the Beast
> comic strip on Hunters site
> https://pota.goatley.com/beast.html"
> That story only contains one ape Gideon , so its not like you would
> need a large cast of Apes in make up. With the rise of youtube etc and
> cheap video cameras i'm sure a small group of fans could come up with
> something quite intresting.
> You would not even have to mention Planet of the Apes in the title or
> use the same costumes , i think as long as the story was good and
> prosthetics used the outcome would be something a lot of us would like
> to see.
>

>Posted by: "R E Zuleta" re_zuleta@... re_zuleta
>I always thought (alike most people) that the Island of Manhattan,
>was solely "NYC." But in reality is more like the downtown section,
>or center hub of a wider puzzle; the NYC metropolitan area (which)
>also includes the 5 borroughs: Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn, Long Island
>and Coney Island (I think?)

In a message dated 4/21/2007 9:33:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, frohike60@... writes:

I never saw that one. I've had two copies (one just disintegrated) on the front was Ursus and Nova? On the back was the Chimp protestors (which I thought was a great scene).

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In the opening scene of the TV show, there is a dog, remember?...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, LordTZer0@.. . wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 4/18/2007 4:39:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> HotScheetz@. .. writes:
>
> Yes, the
> dog in the opening shot struck me, as well, as I'm sure it did
with
> most all Apes fans...
>
>
> Wait . . . what?
> Dog? What was that?
>
>
>
>
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--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Randy" <tikiman1705@ ...> wrote:
>
> >
> Gee. Thought we were supposed to be having fun here.

> So much for a friendly group discussing some movies we all
> enjoyed.
>

Randy is right. We our supposed to be having fun here but lately we've been getting the reputation as an unfriendly group and scaring off new members. I blame myself letting things get out of control recently.

While we don't wish to censor anyone, we do ask that everyone adhere to the Posting Guidelines: http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ pota/files/ PostingGuideline s.doc . As it says on the Yahoo Home Page, "All related topics, viewpoints and spirited debate are welcome. However, keep all discussions friendly, on topic & PG-13."  However, lately there have been to many nasty arguments about trivial matters. That stops now. The Posting Guidelines will be strictly enforced.

I know many of us have very passionate opinions about POTA and its various incarnations in film, TV and comics. That doesn't mean we can't discuss these things in a civil matter like adults. If someone has a different opinion, you are free to disagree, but do so respectfully. There is no reason for a jihad just because someone dislikes a particular movie or TV episode that you happen to love. Remember debate the issue not the person.

Also, we've always tried to keep the group family friendly. Lately the language here has gotten a bit raw. Please tone it down a little. We do have members that like to visit the group with their kids to share their love of POTA.

This has always been a great group and those of us who run it ask for nothing in return. All we want is to maintain it as a safe haven where all can come and celebrate POTA.

Thanks.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, R Gummow <tikiman1705@...> wrote:
>
> Come on Glen. You remember. Those were the rat like animals that
forced the foolish humans to clean up their waste and feed them copious
amounts of food. Come to think of it , perhaps they were the actual
rulers of Pre-Ape Earth.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@... wrote:
>
>
> Because APE SHALL NEVER KILL APE. I cannot do what our Lawgiver has
expressly forbidden!
>
> So how do they get this ape fur? Can't see them using dead apes.
Probably some taboo about that.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Randy" <tikiman1705@...> wrote:
Gee. Thought we were supposed to be having fun here. As for Dr.
Zaius I need to correct you. If you watch the special features on the
extended POTA DVD they specifically say that the part of Dr. Zaius
was 'NOW PLAYED BY'. Not, 'Dr. Zaius was changed or, 'with a
different Dr. Zaius'. I think I'll go by that thanks. So much for a
friendly group discussing some movies we all enjoyed.

Peter,

The only people we've ever banned are spammers trying to sell stuff. Otherwise, banning is not an effective tool. If a member wishes to cause trouble, they can always come back using a different ID.

The problem has been the myself and the other moderators have gotten too relaxed. We've only stepped in after things have blown up. We need to be a bit more proactive and step in before things get to that point.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Peter Karsten <peter_karsten63@...> wrote:
>
> Hi James,
>
> I agree with you,
>
> I think if current or new members don't adhere to the guidelines, they should be banned from the group, after sufficent warning.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Regards.
>
> Peter.
>

What extended PLANET DVD are you referring to here?

They've released PLANET several times now on DVD, but none of them
has been extended version? Even if you're referring to the BEHIND
documentary, that means nothing beacsue it was scripted by people who
proabably don't know the difference between the Zaius's either.

Anyway, as far as Zaius, watch your TV episodes and if you can point
out one line of dialog that says that he is a "Dr." in the episode,
I'll believe it...

I've seen the TV series episodes many times, and nowhere do they ever
say he is Dr. Zaius. He is only referred to as Zaius or Chief
Councilor Zaius.

How can he even be the same Zaus as in the films anyway? The films
take place on the other side of the continent and 900 years later! I
mean going by the mentality that because there was a Zaius in the TV
series he has to be the same as the film Zaius, then I suppose that
someone might assume that the astronauts who landed 10 years before
Virdon/Burke/ Jones crashed were Taylor and crew?

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Randy" <tikiman1705@ ...> wrote:
Gee. Thought we were supposed to be having fun here. As for Dr.
Zaius I need to correct you. If you watch the special features on the
extended POTA DVD they specifically say that the part of Dr. Zaius
was 'NOW PLAYED BY'. Not, 'Dr. Zaius was changed or, 'with a
different Dr. Zaius'. I think I'll go by that thanks. So much for a
friendly group discussing some movies we all enjoyed.

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Ha, ha, ha, very funny...Sounds like you're implying that our pets rule
our lives, which couldn't be further from the -- oh, hang on a minute,
I have to go feed my dogs!...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, R Gummow <tikiman1705@ ...> wrote:
>
> Come on Glen. You remember. Those were the rat like animals that
forced the foolish humans to clean up their waste and feed them copious
amounts of food. Come to think of it , perhaps they were the actual
rulers of Pre-Ape Earth.

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If it was done by the TV division, probably not. Too rushed into production. Shows that Virdon and Burke also exist in an alteranate time line. Just like the Cartoon... and Terror.

People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should fear their people. -V, V For Vendetta

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy <tikiman1705@ yahoo.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 2:08 pm
Subject: [POTA] An 11 yr old knew better.

I'm sure all of those POTA members my age......(40) will remember how
jazzed we we're for the POTA TV series. Imagine My disappointment
when, in the 1st shot of the series. They blew the whole thing. Ape
child. WITH A DOG!!!!!!

Didn't anyone at 20th Century Fox watch their own movies???? Where was
the continuity. Oh well. it was still a cool show. It had Dr Zaius.
What else could you want?

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What extended PLANET DVD are you referring to here?

They've released PLANET several times now on DVD, but none of them
has been extended version? Even if you're referring to the BEHIND
documentary, that means nothing beacsue it was scripted by people who
proabably don't know the difference between the Zaius's either.

Anyway, as far as Zaius, watch your TV episodes and if you can point
out one line of dialog that says that he is a "Dr." in the episode,
I'll believe it...

I've seen the TV series episodes many times, and nowhere do they ever
say he is Dr. Zaius. He is only referred to as Zaius or Chief
Councilor Zaius.

How can he even be the same Zaus as in the films anyway? The films
take place on the other side of the continent and 900 years later! I
mean going by the mentality that because there was a Zaius in the TV
series he has to be the same as the film Zaius, then I suppose that
someone might assume that the astronauts who landed 10 years before
Virdon/Burke/ Jones crashed were Taylor and crew?

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Randy" <tikiman1705@ ...> wrote:
Gee. Thought we were supposed to be having fun here. As for Dr.
Zaius I need to correct you. If you watch the special features on the
extended POTA DVD they specifically say that the part of Dr. Zaius
was 'NOW PLAYED BY'. Not, 'Dr. Zaius was changed or, 'with a
different Dr. Zaius'. I think I'll go by that thanks. So much for a
friendly group discussing some movies we all enjoyed.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, R Gummow <tikiman1705@...> wrote:
>
> Again I start with...'As a lad'. I happened to visit Century
City. Not aware at the time that I was s,ack in the middle of Ape
City. All I knew at the time was it looked really.......familiar.
> As far as Capitol Punishment. They do indeed execute apes for
heresy. In POTA Cornelius and Zira are discussing the Sacred Scrolls.
Zire suggests that they may not be worth the parchment they are
written on. Cornelius, asks "Are you trying to get my head chopped
off?". I got the impression that this was a pretty standard form of
punishment for those who ran afoul of Dr. Zius and his crowd. Either
that, Or maybe the fur in the Forbidden Zone 'scarecrows' was that
rayon fake fur that seems to be everywhere today. Perhaps a Target or
Walmart survivied. PETA would be happy with that anyway.
>
>
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@... wrote:
>
>
> What if Ape history is wrong? What if not all Dogs and Cats died
off, but some were immune to this virus, like Typhoid Mary? Perhaps
their numbers weren't large and by the time the TV show came around
they were rebuilding those numbers?
>
> At least Dogs, i'm not really a cat person.
>
>
>
>
>
> People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should fear
their people. -V, V For Vendetta
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R Gummow <tikiman1705@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 3:38 pm
> Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: New member......
>
> Come on Glen. You remember. Those were the rat like animals that
forced the foolish humans to clean up their waste and feed them
copious amounts of food. Come to think of it , perhaps they were the
actual rulers of Pre-Ape Earth.
>
>
__________

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@... wrote:
>
> Then please ban me for saying that a fan film was stupid. If you're
> going to be that politically correct, I'd rather be elsewhere with
my
> time.
>
>
> People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should fear
their
> people. -V, V For Vendetta
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Karsten <peter_karsten63@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 9:57 pm
> Subject: Re: [POTA] Group Etiquette
>
> I think if current or new members don't adhere to the guidelines,
they
> should be banned from the group, after sufficent warning.
>
__________

> Anyone have any info on this movie trailer on
> Youtube ?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ik_lX81Qt0
> shame there is no dialog or more footage.
> I didn't know Roddy was into Skateboarding !
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYVRCEKG7io
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, R Gummow <tikiman1705@...> wrote:

> BTW this means I now have 2 Zaius' to consider cool.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, R Gummow <tikiman1705@...> wrote:

What can I say. When you're right. You're right. I was referring to
the 'Behind the Scenes' potion of the the two disk set. I've had
several POTA members suggest that it might be an alternate time
line....Mirror Universe? I don't recall do any of the apes have a
cool evil looking beard????

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@... wrote:
>
> Again, would he be so quick to do this were it an Orangutan on trial?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "aboro3085" <aboro3085@...> wrote:
> I really think it is asking a lot to
> believe that every canine and feline in the world was killed by a
> plague. I mean not only would it have to kill all dogs and cats, but
> surely their cousins would be affected? Wolves, hyenas, dingos, not
> to mention lions, tigers, pumas, etc. They'd all be wiped out too
> because they're in the same genus as domesticated pets.

I don't know that it is an alternate timeline as much as I think they
just named the TV character "Zaius" for some familiarity (name wise
anyway.) And hey, you might have your "evil looking bearded"
character anyway: Remember in the TV series, that Zaius certainly has
a lot more of a "beard" than the film(s) Zaius. ;)

The only way we'll ever know exactly what Fox was trying to do with
the setting for the TV series is if we actually hear it from somebody
who was involved, but unfortunately, most of them have passed on. My
personal opinion is that it is not an alternate future, just earlier
in the same future that brings us PLANET.

Some folks may play the "pet card" and say it can't be in the same
timeline because of the appearance of dogs in the TV show. They're
entitled to that opinion, but I really think it is asking a lot to
believe that every canine and feline in the world was killed by a
plague. I mean not only would it have to kill all dogs and cats, but
surely their cousins would be affected? Wolves, hyenas, dingos, not
to mention lions, tigers, pumas, etc. They'd all be wiped out too
because they're in the same genus as domesticated pets.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, R Gummow <tikiman1705@ ...> wrote:

What can I say. When you're right. You're right. I was referring to
the 'Behind the Scenes' potion of the the two disk set. I've had
several POTA members suggest that it might be an alternate time
line....Mirror Universe? I don't recall do any of the apes have a
cool evil looking beard????

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