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Group: pota Message: 42644 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/19/2007
Subject: Deleted scenes
Group: pota Message: 42645 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2007
Subject: Re: Deleted scenes
Group: pota Message: 42646 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/19/2007
Subject: Re: Deleted scenes
Group: pota Message: 42647 From: James Date: 7/19/2007
Subject: Re: Deleted scenes
Group: pota Message: 42648 From: aboro3085 Date: 7/19/2007
Subject: Re: Deleted scenes
Group: pota Message: 42649 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
Group: pota Message: 42650 From: aboro3085 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: What I really MISS...
Group: pota Message: 42651 From: aboro3085 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: Deleted scenes
Group: pota Message: 42652 From: peter39_55 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: pota gameboard Milton Bradley 1974
Group: pota Message: 42653 From: peter39_55 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: pota gameboard Milton Bradley 1974
Group: pota Message: 42654 From: jose ramon Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: What I really MISS...
Group: pota Message: 42655 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: What I really MISS...
Group: pota Message: 42656 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: john ryan?
Group: pota Message: 42657 From: ape_mom Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Fifi (chimpanzee) dies at 60-y-o
Group: pota Message: 42658 From: ape_mom Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: OT Simpson's Premier
Group: pota Message: 42659 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Percy (Aboro) Rodrigues
Group: pota Message: 42660 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
Group: pota Message: 42661 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: Deleted scenes
Group: pota Message: 42662 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
Group: pota Message: 42663 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: OT Simpson's Premier
Group: pota Message: 42664 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: Now THAT'S AN AUCTION!!!
Group: pota Message: 42665 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: What I really MISS...
Group: pota Message: 42666 From: JamesA1102 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Fw: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 42667 From: James Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 42668 From: rob reading Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: What I really MISS...
Group: pota Message: 42669 From: ape_mom Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: OT Simpson's Premier
Group: pota Message: 42670 From: ape_mom Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 42671 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/21/2007
Subject: Eric Braeden gets Hollywood star
Group: pota Message: 42672 From: James Date: 7/21/2007
Subject: Re: Eric Braeden gets Hollywood star
Group: pota Message: 42673 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/21/2007
Subject: Re: Eric Braeden gets Hollywood star
Group: pota Message: 42674 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/21/2007
Subject: Re: What I really MISS...
Group: pota Message: 42675 From: James Date: 7/21/2007
Subject: Re: pota gameboard Milton Bradley 1974
Group: pota Message: 42676 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: James Naughton
Group: pota Message: 42677 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Another rare APES poster
Group: pota Message: 42678 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
Group: pota Message: 42679 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Re: pota gameboard Milton Bradley 1974
Group: pota Message: 42680 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
Group: pota Message: 42681 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
Group: pota Message: 42682 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 42683 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 42684 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
Group: pota Message: 42685 From: James Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 42686 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
Group: pota Message: 42687 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
Group: pota Message: 42688 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 42689 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Ape Museum
Group: pota Message: 42690 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 42691 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
Group: pota Message: 42692 From: James Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Museum
Group: pota Message: 42693 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Museum
Group: pota Message: 42694 From: James Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Museum
Group: pota Message: 42695 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Museum
Group: pota Message: 42696 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Museum
Group: pota Message: 42697 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/22/2007
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 42698 From: brendan486 Date: 7/23/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Museum
Group: pota Message: 42699 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/23/2007
Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
Group: pota Message: 42700 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/23/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Percy (Aboro) Rodrigues
Group: pota Message: 42701 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 7/23/2007
Subject: Sorry for the Delay in my POTA audio Drama.
Group: pota Message: 42702 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 7/23/2007
Subject: BrokenSea changing Servers
Group: pota Message: 42703 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/23/2007
Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
Group: pota Message: 42704 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/23/2007
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 42705 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/23/2007
Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
Group: pota Message: 42706 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/23/2007
Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
Group: pota Message: 42707 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/23/2007
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 42708 From: apecalypsenow Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: Name of the character - pics or link
Group: pota Message: 42709 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: Re: Name of the character - pics or link
Group: pota Message: 42710 From: apecalypsenow Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: Re: Name of the character - pics or link
Group: pota Message: 42711 From: James Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: Re: Name of the character - pics or link
Group: pota Message: 42712 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 42713 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Museum
Group: pota Message: 42714 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: Re: Now THAT'S AN AUCTION!!!
Group: pota Message: 42715 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: Re: Eric Braeden gets Hollywood star
Group: pota Message: 42716 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
Group: pota Message: 42717 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: next summer
Group: pota Message: 42718 From: apecalypsenow Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: Re: Name of the character - pics or link
Group: pota Message: 42719 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Museum
Group: pota Message: 42720 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: Re: next summer
Group: pota Message: 42721 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 42722 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Museum
Group: pota Message: 42723 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Museum
Group: pota Message: 42724 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/24/2007
Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
Group: pota Message: 42725 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/25/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Museum
Group: pota Message: 42726 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/25/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
Group: pota Message: 42727 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/25/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
Group: pota Message: 42728 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/25/2007
Subject: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?
Group: pota Message: 42729 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/25/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
Group: pota Message: 42730 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/25/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
Group: pota Message: 42731 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/25/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?
Group: pota Message: 42732 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/25/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
Group: pota Message: 42733 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/25/2007
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 42734 From: Dave B Date: 7/26/2007
Subject: Re: Hayes and Hamm scripts
Group: pota Message: 42735 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/26/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?
Group: pota Message: 42736 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/26/2007
Subject: OT: Sssssmokin'!
Group: pota Message: 42737 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/26/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?
Group: pota Message: 42738 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/26/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Sssssmokin'!
Group: pota Message: 42739 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/26/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?
Group: pota Message: 42740 From: David Giwner Date: 7/26/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?
Group: pota Message: 42741 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/26/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
Group: pota Message: 42742 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/26/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
Group: pota Message: 42743 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/26/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?



Group: pota Message: 42644 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/19/2007
Subject: Deleted scenes
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FYI According to Famous Monsters of Filmland Magazine (#52 Oct. 1968) the gorilla guard that stops Cornelius and the others in the wagon in the deleted scene  was played by Bob Lombardo.

Bruce

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Group: pota Message: 42645 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2007
Subject: Re: Deleted scenes
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.html.htmlIn a message dated 7/19/2007 6:22:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, stenosaurus@... writes:


FYI According to Famous Monsters of Filmland Magazine (#52 Oct. 1968) the gorilla guard that stops Cornelius and the others in the wagon in the deleted scene  was played by Bob Lombardo.

Bruce



Bob Lombardo is the actor behind the makeup in the "This is Marcus" POTA ads.  In the film he's the gorilla that comes to get Taylor to be gelded and talks to Julius, and he the same one that pushes Zira away after Taylor is caught in the net.  Lombardo doesn't seem o have done much else in films.

-- Rory



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Group: pota Message: 42646 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/19/2007
Subject: Re: Deleted scenes
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He's the same one that laughs when Zaius mentions Zira's theory of "human domestication" right?

Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 6:39 pm
Subject: [POTA] Re: Deleted scenes

In a message dated 7/19/2007 6:22:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:


FYI According to Famous Monsters of Filmland Magazine (#52 Oct. 1968) the gorilla guard that stops Cornelius and the others in the wagon in the deleted scene  was played by Bob Lombardo.

Bruce



Bob Lombardo is the actor behind the makeup in the "This is Marcus" POTA ads.  In the film he's the gorilla that comes to get Taylor to be gelded and talks to Julius, and he the same one that pushes Zira away after Taylor is caught in the net.  Lombardo doesn't seem o have done much else in films.

-- Rory



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Group: pota Message: 42647 From: James Date: 7/19/2007
Subject: Re: Deleted scenes
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No that was Norman Burton who was credited as Hunt Leader. He is easy to spot in the film. He's the only Gorilla with glyphs on his sash.

Norman was also in Escape as the Army General on the Presidential Commission.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> He's the same one that laughs when Zaius mentions Zira's theory of "human domestication" right?
>
> Bruce
>

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Group: pota Message: 42648 From: aboro3085 Date: 7/19/2007
Subject: Re: Deleted scenes
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Incorrect.

The ape that you're referring to is The Hunt Leader and he was played
by Norman Burton.

The Hunt Leader was not Marcus, head of Security Police.






--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> He's the same one that laughs when Zaius mentions Zira's theory
of "human domestication" right?
>
> Bruce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haristas@...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 6:39 pm
> Subject: [POTA] Re: Deleted scenes
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 7/19/2007 6:22:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
stenosaurus@... writes:
>
>
>
> FYI According to Famous Monsters of Filmland Magazine (#52 Oct.
1968) the gorilla guard that stops Cornelius and the others in the
wagon in the deleted scene? was played by Bob Lombardo.
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
> Bob Lombardo is the actor behind the makeup in the "This is Marcus"
POTA ads.? In the film he's the gorilla that comes to get Taylor to
be gelded and talks to Julius, and he the same one that pushes Zira
away after Taylor is caught in the net.? Lombardo doesn't seem o have
done much else in films.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> **************************************
> Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at
http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
>
> FYI According to Famous Monsters of Filmland Magazine (#52 Oct.
1968) the gorilla guard that stops Cornelius and the others in the
wagon in the deleted scene? was played by Bob Lombardo.
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
> Bob Lombardo is the actor behind the makeup in the "This is Marcus"
POTA ads.? In the film he's the gorilla that comes to get Taylor to
be gelded and talks to Julius, and he the same one that pushes Zira
away after Taylor is caught in the net.? Lombardo doesn't seem o have
done much else in films.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> **************************************
> Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at
http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
>
>
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 42649 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
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Years ago now, I managed to contact Glenn Shadix, a superhumanly nice
guy.I did a really poor job interviewing him, and when we get to
review Burton's movie legacy in Scrolls one day, we'll run it.Anyway,
he told me that the schedule was telescoped because it was meant to
be Christmas. It definitely has , in places, the look of a badly
rushed movie. I have on mini tape somewhere Glenn telling me 'Next
you'll be telling us these beasts have a soul!' which was spooky!
John, Scrolls.

>
> Where did you hear POTA2001 was planned as a Christmas release?
As far as I know, the reason POTA was rushed was because they moved
it up a year because Fox had planned "Minority Report" for 2001 but
Cruise and Speilberg couldn't do it so they switched POTA and M.R.
Basically, Fox needed a big summer movie to plug into 2001. Added to
that was the threatened writer's strike. They had to finish
productions early. So POTA (and Burton) were squeezed from both
directions. Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: shanter2002
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:04 AM
> Subject: [POTA] Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
>
>
> Burton's Apes was intended to be a Christmas 2001 release and
then
> Fox pulled it forward to the Summer.The schedule was insane and
I'm
> sure that damaged the film badly. I still think that given more
time,
> it would just have been more polished, not great. Tim Burton
strikes
> me as the kind of actor who can tell you how to kick in a film,
but
> won't extract a moving response from the person kicked--it's all
mad
> action and look, no depth.Look at the difference between Zira and
Ari-
> -two excellent actresses, only one lasting performance.I hope
> Burton's gone for good on Apes. John, Scrolls.
> >
> > No, I think there's love for the subject somewhere in there.
They
> had a bruising schedule and I think they were hoping to get it
right
> in a sequel. Richard Zanuck said they couldn't do what they
wanted
> because there wasn't time to reconceive. They had to go from the
> script they had. Jeff
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: paul_mannering@
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 5:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
> >
> >
> >
> > But surely Burton only let Fox "fiddle" him because he really
> didn't care for the concept or the story?
> >
> > Compare the remake of POTA with something like the remake of
King
> Kong.
> >
> > POTA 2001 comes across as complete shite because the director
has
> no personal vision or love of the project.
> >
> > King Kong came across as a lavish and hugely detailed
production
> (that suffered only from a lack of editing) because it had always
> been the dream of the director to make this since he was a kid.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Paul Mannering
> >
> > Email Support Coordinator
> > Phone Assist
> >
> > Tel: +64 3 962 3332 PO Box 203
> > Email: paul_mannering@ Christchurch
> > Web: www.westpac.co.nz New Zealand
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jeff K." <veetus@>
> > Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > 17/07/2007 12:23 P.M.
> > Please respond to pota
> >
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > cc:
> > Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: OT: Would Burton do
> a good job NOW?
> >
> >
> >
> > At least Burton saw them as talking monkeys. Fox saw them as
> the Flintstones! Producer Don Murphy said said of the script from
the
> Oliver Stone era: "Terry (Hayes) wrote a "Terminator" and Fox
> wanted "The Flintstones".
> > A decade before the film came out it's fate was already sealed.
> Adam Rifkin (POTA writer from 1988 - 1991): "(Fox wanted) a
happy,
> harmonious ending between apes and humans, which I thought was a
bad
> idea".
> > Burton let Fox play him like a fiddle but I don't think he
> would today. He's learned his lesson. Jeff
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: James
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:53 PM
> > Subject: [POTA] Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> > >
> > > what damned Burton was a comment he made in the aftermath of
> the release in
> > > reference to the way in which the movie was being torn to
> shreds by
> > > the fans and critics - he said (something like) 'It doesn't
pay
> to
> > > over-analyze, at the end of the day it's just a movie about
> talking
> > > monkeys".
> > >
> >
> > I think that says it all.
> >
> > I don't care how much clout the guy has. He is just a hack who
> doesn't understand or respect the concept.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you have
> received this communication by mistake, please advise the sender
> immediately and delete the message and any attachments. Nothing
in
> this email designates an information system for the purposes of
> Section 11(a) of the New Zealand Electronic Transactions Act
2002.
> Westpac New Zealand Limited.
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 42650 From: aboro3085 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: What I really MISS...
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Exactly. "Some" of it might have appeared in the earliest drafts of
the script, but the scenes he's talking of didn't.

There's not even any "photographic evidence" to support the
possibilty that something like that was ever shot (excluding the
Zaius/Taylor bit, which exists on film and photos, so it'd be hard
to say what's what in an existing scene.)

The only things from BENEATH that I know of that may have existed
and were cut or edited are:


Longer steam-bath scene (footage of which exists in the BENEATH
featurette).

Longer Ursus speech (same as above).

The scene where Zaius, Ursus and the Minister are debating the
Forbidden Zone invasion (scripted AND photos exist.)

The scene where Cornelius is out by the wagons telling the gorilla
that he needs Brent and Nova for research, the gorilla says "no"
due to Captain Odo's (?) orders, to which Cornelius says he can have
them due to orders from Dr. Zaius or something like that. (This too
was scripted and there are photos that indicate such a scene was shot.
I believe one even appeared on a poster for BENEATH, but I'm not
positive of this.)



> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
> >
> > Mostly this stuff appeared in the novelization and not in any of
the
> > BENEATH scripts I've ever read. However in one of the earlier
> scripts the
> > dialogue between Taylor and Zaius was somewhat longer.
> >
> >
> > Chris L.
> >
> >
> >
> > "aboro3085" <aboro3085@...> wrote:
> >
> > >>I recall your mentioning this awhile back, and when it was
> brought up
> > in the group, the general consensus was that it was never shot
and
> > probably wasn't scripted either.
> >
> > Can I ask what you're basing this scene's existence on? <<
> >
> >
> > "Zach S" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
> >
> > >>BENEATH
> >
> > The Grand Army of the Apes going through the tunnels, eventually
> emerging
> > from the main one in front of the ruined Public Library...walking
> past
> > the Stock Exchange, and encountering the three mutants--Caspay,
> Adiposo
> > (the Fat Man), and the Verger of the Cathedral running for cover
at
> the
> > wrecked Radio City Music Hall marquee (and getting gunned down by
> orders
> > of Ursus)
> > The longer dialogue between Taylor and Zaius at the conclusion <<
> >









--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> Mostly this stuff appeared in the novelization and not in any of the
> BENEATH scripts I've ever read. However in one of the earlier
scripts the
> dialogue between Taylor and Zaius was somewhat longer.
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "aboro3085" <aboro3085@...> wrote:
>
> >>I recall your mentioning this awhile back, and when it was
brought up
> in the group, the general consensus was that it was never shot and
> probably wasn't scripted either.
>
> Can I ask what you're basing this scene's existence on? <<
>
>
> "Zach S" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> >>BENEATH
>
> The Grand Army of the Apes going through the tunnels, eventually
emerging
> from the main one in front of the ruined Public Library...walking
past
> the Stock Exchange, and encountering the three mutants--Caspay,
Adiposo
> (the Fat Man), and the Verger of the Cathedral running for cover at
the
> wrecked Radio City Music Hall marquee (and getting gunned down by
orders
> of Ursus)
> The longer dialogue between Taylor and Zaius at the conclusion <<
>
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Group: pota Message: 42651 From: aboro3085 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: Deleted scenes
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In addition to playing the Hunt Leader and General Brody, he also
played Yalu, Galen's father in the TV series.



--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

> Norman was also in Escape as the Army General on the Presidential
> Commission.
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Group: pota Message: 42652 From: peter39_55 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: pota gameboard Milton Bradley 1974
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Hi,
I'm in need of a picture of the 'trigger' piece, who was broken by
previous owner I guess. Anyone out there who has a clear and detailed
picture of the 'trigger' piece (brown plastic), care to send it over to
my mailbox ; this way, I could restore the broken piece in some way as
to enjoy this boardgame even more.
Cheers, Peter
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Group: pota Message: 42653 From: peter39_55 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: pota gameboard Milton Bradley 1974
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Hi there,
is there anyone out there in pota universe who has some pictures of the
trigger assembly who was included with the pota vintage gameboard MB
1974.
I bought the gameboard online several weeks ago ; all pieces are in
mint condition, except for one particular piece (trigger) who seems to
be broken on the underside ; this piece needs to be complete to
activate the trigger motion (open or close the prison roof).
So, if someone can help me out here and send me a clear and detailed
picture of that particular 'trigger' (made in brown plastic), I would
be very glad and could enjoy this game even more...

Greetings, PETER
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Group: pota Message: 42654 From: jose ramon Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: What I really MISS...
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aboro3085 <aboro3085@...> wrote:

The scene where Cornelius is out by the wagons telling the gorilla
that he needs Brent and Nova for research, the gorilla says "no"
due to Captain Odo's (?) orders, to which Cornelius says he can have
them due to orders from Dr. Zaius or something like that. (This too
was scripted and there are photos that indicate such a scene was shot.
I believe one even appeared on a poster for BENEATH, but I'm not
positive of this.)
.

 
INTERESTING TO SEE THIS PICS.
 
JR


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Group: pota Message: 42655 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: What I really MISS...
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-This scene is a black and white insider cover pic in one of the
Marvel mags--which one, I'm not sure.It shows the David Watson
Cornelius, Brent and Nova in an outside shot by a wagon with gorilla
guards around.John, Scrolls.
>
>
>
> aboro3085 <aboro3085@...> wrote:
> The scene where Cornelius is out by the wagons telling the gorilla
> that he needs Brent and Nova for research, the gorilla says "no"
> due to Captain Odo's (?) orders, to which Cornelius says he can have
> them due to orders from Dr. Zaius or something like that. (This too
> was scripted and there are photos that indicate such a scene was
shot.
> I believe one even appeared on a poster for BENEATH, but I'm not
> positive of this.)
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 42656 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: john ryan?
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In Starburst #120 (from 1988)there's a snotty article about the Apes
movies.It mentions that James Franciscus and Ted Post re-wrote the
script with 'a writer named John Ryan'. Who is John Ryan? John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 42657 From: ape_mom Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Fifi (chimpanzee) dies at 60-y-o
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070720/ap_on_sc/australia_old_chimp_dies

SYDNEY, Australia - One of the world's oldest chimps, Fifi, has died
in Australia, zoo officials said Friday. Fifi was the matriarch of
the 18 chimpanzees at Sydney's Taronga Zoo, and celebrated her 60th
birthday in May with sugar-free cupcakes and coconuts among four
generations of her family.



But Fifi, who suffered arthritis and had taken to sipping from a cup
of chamomile tea each morning in her later years, stayed in bed
Thursday morning, raising suspicions among the keepers that she was
unwell, the zoo said in a statement.

Keepers provided her with fresh bedding and her favorite foods, while
other chimps in the group visited her throughout the day, the zoo
said. She died peacefully in the afternoon.

"Keepers have been saddened by the peaceful passing of their oldest
and much loved Chimpanzee, Fifi," the zoo said.

The zoo said an investigation would be held to determine a cause of
death.

Chimps, who share 98 percent of humans' DNA and are our closest
living relatives in nature, have an average life expectancy of about
45 years, but can live longer in captivity because of the health care
and good diet they get.

Cheeta, the star of a dozen "Tarzan" movies in the 1930s and 1940s,
is listed by the Guinness Book of World Records as the world's oldest
chimp. He turned 75 in April.
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Group: pota Message: 42658 From: ape_mom Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: OT Simpson's Premier
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Hi, All.

I kind ok lurk, but saw the home page picture and thought it would be
fun to check in...

**big grin**


So, anyone going to be in Springfield for the premier?

Helen
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Group: pota Message: 42659 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Percy (Aboro) Rodrigues
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Percy was superb as Aboro--oddly enough, if the scheduling list is
right, The Tyrant is on ITV 4 over here in a few hours! He was a really
menacing character, definitely someone I'd have liked to be a recurring
character.Interestingly, in the script and the novel, he's far less
impressive and Daku is the manipulator.Shows what a powerful performer
Percy is.I snuck in, underage, in 1975 to see Jaws twice--that is
almost the perfect film.John, Scrolls.
>
> Percy Rodrigues played Aboro in the POTA episode "The Tyrant", one
of my favorite guest stars on the show, one of the rare times a gorilla
seemed intelligent.
> There's an independent documentary about the movie "Jaws" that's
been made, kind of a professional fan film that interviews all the
people involved in making the film, as well as a fan convention at
Martha's Vineyard where the movie was shot. "Jaws" has always been one
of my favorites, so when this flick arrives, I'm there!
> Anyway, Percy has a distincive voice and is a long time narrator of
movie trailers ("The Exorcist", etc.). He did the trailer for "Jaws"
and agreed to do the trailer for this documentary. Here's a link to the
trailer plus pictures of Percy back in the day and now and background
on getting him to do it. I thought it might be of interest.
> http://www.sharkisstillworking.com/default.asp?
c=newtrailer Jeff
>
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Group: pota Message: 42660 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
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  I've never heard anything about that. Maybe Burton was hoping they'd push it back to Christmas because of the schedule and they never did, but it was always planned as a "summer tentpole". The thing that screwed it up was "Minority Report" and those gods Spielberg and Cruise. And "Minority Report" turned out not to be such a hit anyway. From Day One when Burton was involved, the trades were saying Summer 2001.
  But Spielberg and Cruise have the two movies I'm looking forward to the most next summer, "Indiana Jones 4" and the one shooting in Germany where Cruise plays the guy who carried in the suitcase bomb to kill Hitler (July 20, 1944; happy anniversary).  Jeff
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:01 AM
Subject: [POTA] Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?

Years ago now, I managed to contact Glenn Shadix, a superhumanly nice
guy.I did a really poor job interviewing him, and when we get to
review Burton's movie legacy in Scrolls one day, we'll run it.Anyway,
he told me that the schedule was telescoped because it was meant to
be Christmas. It definitely has , in places, the look of a badly
rushed movie. I have on mini tape somewhere Glenn telling me 'Next
you'll be telling us these beasts have a soul!' which was spooky!
John, Scrolls.

>
> Where did you hear POTA2001 was planned as a Christmas release?
As far as I know, the reason POTA was rushed was because they moved
it up a year because Fox had planned "Minority Report" for 2001 but
Cruise and Speilberg couldn't do it so they switched POTA and M.R.
Basically, Fox needed a big summer movie to plug into 2001. Added to
that was the threatened writer's strike. They had to finish
productions early. So POTA (and Burton) were squeezed from both
directions. Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: shanter2002
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:04 AM
> Subject: [POTA] Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
>
>
> Burton's Apes was intended to be a Christmas 2001 release and
then
> Fox pulled it forward to the Summer.The schedule was insane and
I'm
> sure that damaged the film badly. I still think that given more
time,
> it would just have been more polished, not great. Tim Burton
strikes
> me as the kind of actor who can tell you how to kick in a film,
but
> won't extract a moving response from the person kicked--it's all
mad
> action and look, no depth.Look at the difference between Zira and
Ari-
> -two excellent actresses, only one lasting performance. I hope
> Burton's gone for good on Apes. John, Scrolls.
> >
> > No, I think there's love for the subject somewhere in there.
They
> had a bruising schedule and I think they were hoping to get it
right
> in a sequel. Richard Zanuck said they couldn't do what they
wanted
> because there wasn't time to reconceive. They had to go from the
> script they had. Jeff
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: paul_mannering@
> > To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 5:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
> >
> >
> >
> > But surely Burton only let Fox "fiddle" him because he really
> didn't care for the concept or the story?
> >
> > Compare the remake of POTA with something like the remake of
King
> Kong.
> >
> > POTA 2001 comes across as complete shite because the director
has
> no personal vision or love of the project.
> >
> > King Kong came across as a lavish and hugely detailed
production
> (that suffered only from a lack of editing) because it had always
> been the dream of the director to make this since he was a kid.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Paul Mannering
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jeff K." <veetus@>
> > Sent by: pota@yahoogroups. com
> > 17/07/2007 12:23 P.M.
> > Please respond to pota
> >
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups. com>
> > cc:
> > Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: OT: Would Burton do
> a good job NOW?
> >
> >
> >
> > At least Burton saw them as talking monkeys. Fox saw them as
> the Flintstones! Producer Don Murphy said said of the script from
the
> Oliver Stone era: "Terry (Hayes) wrote a "Terminator" and Fox
> wanted "The Flintstones" .
> > A decade before the film came out it's fate was already sealed.
> Adam Rifkin (POTA writer from 1988 - 1991): "(Fox wanted) a
happy,
> harmonious ending between apes and humans, which I thought was a
bad
> idea".
> > Burton let Fox play him like a fiddle but I don't think he
> would today. He's learned his lesson. Jeff
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: James
> > To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:53 PM
> > Subject: [POTA] Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > what damned Burton was a comment he made in the aftermath of
> the release in
> > > reference to the way in which the movie was being torn to
> shreds by
> > > the fans and critics - he said (something like) 'It doesn't
pay
> to
> > > over-analyze, at the end of the day it's just a movie about
> talking
> > > monkeys".
> > >
> >
> > I think that says it all.
> >
> > I don't care how much clout the guy has. He is just a hack who
> doesn't understand or respect the concept.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Group: pota Message: 42661 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: Deleted scenes
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In a message dated 7/19/2007 11:31:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

No that was Norman Burton who was credited as Hunt Leader. He is easy to spot in the film. He's the only Gorilla with glyphs on his sash.

Norman was also in Escape as the Army General on the Presidential Commission.


Now I know who you mean.
 
Bruce




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Group: pota Message: 42662 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
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In a message dated 7/20/2007 12:20:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:
But Spielberg and Cruise have the two movies I'm looking forward to the most next summer, "Indiana Jones 4" and the one shooting in Germany where Cruise plays the guy who carried in the suitcase bomb to kill Hitler (July 20, 1944; happy anniversary) .  Jeff
 
Today's NY Post has a color photo of Cruise in his eyepatch and full Nazi uniform from that upcoming film.
 
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Group: pota Message: 42663 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: OT Simpson's Premier
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That is funny! So it's all Homer's fault!!

--- ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:

> Hi, All.
>
> I kind ok lurk, but saw the home page picture and
> thought it would be
> fun to check in...
>
> **big grin**
>
>
> So, anyone going to be in Springfield for the
> premier?
>
> Helen
>
>




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Group: pota Message: 42664 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: Now THAT'S AN AUCTION!!!
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Les--
do you have before and after pics you could share?!

Tim
--- ansanaut <les.hemstock@...> wrote:

> Hello Tim
> Thank you for the compliment. Im very happy with the
> job the guys did
> in LA. You would understand how it cost so much to
> restore if you saw
> how the prop looked originally as it was so
> weathered and beat.
>
> If you ever get chance to visit the UK then keep an
> eye on the
> memorabilia events for news of my apes exhibition.
> I've had a few
> offers though trying to keep it fairly select at
> event organisers
> requests.
>
> Keep in touch through the forum and Ill let you know
> when we finish the
> DVD.
>
> Cheers Tim
> Les
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\""
> <apefan23@...> wrote:
> > Hey Les!
> > This is fascinating! I'm curious as to where you
> found
> > it or who you got it from! You've done a fantastic
> job
> > on the restoration! I'd buy it but I'd have to
> sell my
> > car!
> >
> > Good luck! Wish I could get over to one of your
> shows
> > sometime....! Any plans of a US tour?? lol
> >
> > Tim
>
>




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Group: pota Message: 42665 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/20/2007
Subject: Re: What I really MISS...
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Attachments :
    Is this the shot?

    Tim

    http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/marvel-issue-9-beneath.jpg

    --- shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:

    > -This scene is a black and white insider cover pic
    > in one of the
    > Marvel mags--which one, I'm not sure.It shows the
    > David Watson
    > Cornelius, Brent and Nova in an outside shot by a
    > wagon with gorilla
    > guards around.John, Scrolls.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > aboro3085 <aboro3085@...> wrote:
    > > The scene where Cornelius is out by the wagons
    > telling the gorilla
    > > that he needs Brent and Nova for research, the
    > gorilla says "no"
    > > due to Captain Odo's (?) orders, to which
    > Cornelius says he can have
    > > them due to orders from Dr. Zaius or something
    > like that. (This too
    > > was scripted and there are photos that indicate
    > such a scene was
    > shot.
    > > I believe one even appeared on a poster for
    > BENEATH, but I'm not
    > > positive of this.)
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    Group: pota Message: 42666 From: JamesA1102 Date: 7/20/2007
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    Thanks Rob!
     
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    Group: pota Message: 42667 From: James Date: 7/20/2007
    Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver
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    This week's LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now available. Thanks Glen and everyone who contributed.

    To view the LESSON click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm.

    Have a great weekend everybody!

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    Group: pota Message: 42668 From: rob reading Date: 7/20/2007
    Subject: Re: What I really MISS...
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    Unusual to see a background ape so near to all the action.

    Rob


    >From: "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
    >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    >Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: What I really MISS...
    >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:15:18 -0700 (PDT)
    >
    >Is this the shot?
    >
    >Tim
    >
    >http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/marvel-issue-9-beneath.jpg
    >
    >--- shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:
    >
    > > -This scene is a black and white insider cover pic
    > > in one of the
    > > Marvel mags--which one, I'm not sure.It shows the
    > > David Watson
    > > Cornelius, Brent and Nova in an outside shot by a
    > > wagon with gorilla
    > > guards around.John, Scrolls.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > aboro3085 <aboro3085@...> wrote:
    > > > The scene where Cornelius is out by the wagons
    > > telling the gorilla
    > > > that he needs Brent and Nova for research, the
    > > gorilla says "no"
    > > > due to Captain Odo's (?) orders, to which
    > > Cornelius says he can have
    > > > them due to orders from Dr. Zaius or something
    > > like that. (This too
    > > > was scripted and there are photos that indicate
    > > such a scene was
    > > shot.
    > > > I believe one even appeared on a poster for
    > > BENEATH, but I'm not
    > > > positive of this.)
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    > > >
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    > > > fashion and style?
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    > > > Yahoo! TV
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    > > > of top Web finds.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > .
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > INTERESTING TO SEE THIS PICS.
    > > >
    > > > JR
    > > >
    > > >
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    Group: pota Message: 42669 From: ape_mom Date: 7/20/2007
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    Hehehe... I get frustrated when I check in, because I usually can't
    figure out what you all are talking about.

    You going downtown to the Simpsons premier? Ben and Jerry's is going
    to have two new flavors of ice cream!



    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
    >
    > That is funny! So it's all Homer's fault!!
    >
    > --- ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
    >
    > > Hi, All.
    > >
    > > I kind ok lurk, but saw the home page picture and
    > > thought it would be
    > > fun to check in...
    > >
    > > **big grin**
    > >
    > >
    > > So, anyone going to be in Springfield for the
    > > premier?
    > >
    > > Helen
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 42670 From: ape_mom Date: 7/20/2007
    Subject: Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver
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    *Grin*

    As long as I am in the neighborhood, I just want to comment on how
    consistantly consistant these Lessons are. I enjoy reading them and
    am amazed at how unified they seem from one week to the next. Kudos
    to those involved. It's a treat to have them arrive in my mailbox
    each week.

    Thank you.

    Helen

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
    >
    > This week's LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now available. Thanks Glen
    and
    > everyone who contributed.
    > To view the LESSON click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use
    > this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm
    > <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm> .
    >
    > Have a great weekend everybody!
    >
    > Visit all the Group's special features including:
    >
    > * The Internal Website
    > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm> - Original
    > POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading
    Cards and
    > much, much more. * POTA Locations
    >
    <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTAlocations.htm>
    -
    > The places where the POTA films were shot. * The Art Gallery
    >
    <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheArtGallery.htm>
    -
    > Works of POTA Art by our members. * The Database Section
    > <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database> - POTA info
    > ranging from Characters to Comics. * The Photos Section
    > <http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos> - POTA pics
    > contributed by members.
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    Group: pota Message: 42671 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/21/2007
    Subject: Eric Braeden gets Hollywood star
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    James, I'm sure you'll have to fix the HTML on this:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070721/ap_en_tv/people_eric_braeden;_ylt=Agf
    NfKwcuIBlUuUICg8udWzMWM0F


    Thought everyone would be interested in knowing.


    Chris L.
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    Group: pota Message: 42672 From: James Date: 7/21/2007
    Subject: Re: Eric Braeden gets Hollywood star
    .html

    Yup.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
    >
    > James, I'm sure you'll have to fix the HTML on this:
    >
    > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070721/ap_en_tv/people_eric_braeden;_ylt=AgfNfKwcuIBlUuUICg8udWzMWM0F
    >
    >
    > Thought everyone would be interested in knowing.
    >
    >
    > Chris L.
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 42673 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/21/2007
    Subject: Re: Eric Braeden gets Hollywood star
    .html
    .html.htmlIn a message dated 7/21/2007 4:02:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, lawford42@... writes:


    James, I'm sure you'll have to fix the HTML on this:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070721/ap_en_tv/people_eric_braeden;_ylt=Agf
    NfKwcuIBlUuUICg8udWzMWM0F

    Thought everyone would be interested in knowing.

    Chris L.



    Did anyone else get "The Rat Patrol" on DVD?  I have both seasons.  It's a boy's adventure/comic-book level show but I like the cast and cinematography (lots of desert).

    -- Rory



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    Group: pota Message: 42674 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/21/2007
    Subject: Re: What I really MISS...
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    Yup, that's the one.Oddly, the Marvel inside covers often had really
    good and quite rare shots.John, Scrolls.
    >
    > Is this the shot?
    >
    > Tim
    >
    > http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/marvel-issue-9-
    beneath.jpg
    >
    > --- shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:
    >
    > > -This scene is a black and white insider cover pic
    > > in one of the
    > > Marvel mags--which one, I'm not sure.It shows the
    > > David Watson
    > > Cornelius, Brent and Nova in an outside shot by a
    > > wagon with gorilla
    > > guards around.John, Scrolls.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > aboro3085 <aboro3085@> wrote:
    > > > The scene where Cornelius is out by the wagons
    > > telling the gorilla
    > > > that he needs Brent and Nova for research, the
    > > gorilla says "no"
    > > > due to Captain Odo's (?) orders, to which
    > > Cornelius says he can have
    > > > them due to orders from Dr. Zaius or something
    > > like that. (This too
    > > > was scripted and there are photos that indicate
    > > such a scene was
    > > shot.
    > > > I believe one even appeared on a poster for
    > > BENEATH, but I'm not
    > > > positive of this.)
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    Group: pota Message: 42675 From: James Date: 7/21/2007
    Subject: Re: pota gameboard Milton Bradley 1974
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    Hi Peter,

    I remember the trigger piece was always a problem in that game.

    If anyone has a copy of the original directions and can scan them, it might be helpful.

     


    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter39_55" <peter39_55@...> wrote:
    >
    > Hi,
    > I'm in need of a picture of the 'trigger' piece, who was broken by
    > previous owner I guess. Anyone out there who has a clear and detailed
    > picture of the 'trigger' piece (brown plastic), care to send it over to
    > my mailbox ; this way, I could restore the broken piece in some way as
    > to enjoy this boardgame even more.
    > Cheers, Peter
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 42676 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/22/2007
    Subject: James Naughton
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      James Naughton has been busy lately...last night I saw him in the movie  Factory Girl about Edie Sedgwick (sp) as Edie's dad and today he was on the new as he's directing a new Broadway play called "Surface to Air."
     
    Bruce




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    Group: pota Message: 42677 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/22/2007
    Subject: Another rare APES poster
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      This is a HUGE banner from 1968. Bidding starts at 500 dollars!  Bruce




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      Group: pota Message: 42678 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/22/2007
      Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
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      Attachments :
        That looks like Rory's!!

        --- stenosaurus@... wrote:

        > This is a HUGE banner from 1968. Bidding starts at
        > 500 dollars! Bruce
        >
        >
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 42679 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/22/2007
        Subject: Re: pota gameboard Milton Bradley 1974
        .html
        Attachments :
          I was just looking at mine ..... There are no
          instructions as far as I know....I think I would have
          kept them. The wheel thingy sits inside the
          case...there should be a round foam piece inside
          underneath that the wheel sits on......the tall piece
          fits in to the top facing away....Supposedly when you
          turn the "knob" it catches the tall piece and either
          pulls it back or doesn't therefore either dropping the
          human into the cage or not......but mine doesn't seem
          to work all that good...I seem to remember having
          trouble with it originally as well....

          Hope the pics help!

          Tim


          --- James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

          >
          > Hi Peter,
          >
          > I remember the trigger piece was always a problem in
          > that game.
          >
          > If anyone has a copy of the original directions and
          > can scan them, it
          > might be helpful.
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter39_55"
          > <peter39_55@...> wrote:
          > >
          > > Hi,
          > > I'm in need of a picture of the 'trigger' piece,
          > who was broken by
          > > previous owner I guess. Anyone out there who has a
          > clear and detailed
          > > picture of the 'trigger' piece (brown plastic),
          > care to send it over
          > to
          > > my mailbox ; this way, I could restore the broken
          > piece in some way as
          > > to enjoy this boardgame even more.
          > > Cheers, Peter
          > >
          >
          >
          >



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          Group: pota Message: 42680 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/22/2007
          Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
          .html
          Attachments :
            .html.htmlIn a message dated 7/22/2007 11:24:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, stenosaurus@... writes:


            This is a HUGE banner from 1968. Bidding starts at 500 dollars!  Bruce




            I have it.  Right now I can't recall how much I paid for it.  Could have been $500, but I seem to recall $350.  It was a number of years ago.

            -- Rory



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            Group: pota Message: 42681 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/22/2007
            Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
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            .html.htmlIn a message dated 7/22/2007 12:25:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:


            That looks like Rory's!!


            They all look alike (to most apes).

            -- Rory



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            Group: pota Message: 42682 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/22/2007
            Subject: New file uploaded to pota
            .html
            Hello,

            This email message is a notification to let you know that
            a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the pota
            group.

            File : /IMG_4342.jpg
            Uploaded by : jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
            Description : Game "Trigger" 1

            You can access this file at the URL:
            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/IMG_4342.jpg

            To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
            http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

            Regards,

            jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
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            Group: pota Message: 42683 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/22/2007
            Subject: New file uploaded to pota
            .html
            Hello,

            This email message is a notification to let you know that
            a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the pota
            group.

            File : /IMG_4341.jpg
            Uploaded by : jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
            Description : Game "Trigger" 2

            You can access this file at the URL:
            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/IMG_4341.jpg

            To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
            http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

            Regards,

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            Group: pota Message: 42684 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/22/2007
            Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
            .html
            You're a lucky man Rory! I'd love to own one of these.
             
            Bruce



            -----Original Message-----
            From: Haristas@...
            To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 1:28 pm
            Subject: [POTA] Re: Another rare APES poster

            In a message dated 7/22/2007 11:24:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, stenosaurus@... writes:


            This is a HUGE banner from 1968. Bidding starts at 500 dollars!  Bruce




            I have it.  Right now I can't recall how much I paid for it.  Could have been $500, but I seem to recall $350.  It was a number of years ago.

            -- Rory



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            Group: pota Message: 42685 From: James Date: 7/22/2007
            Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
            .html

            Thanks for sending Tim. If I recall correctly there was a round piece of foam rubber that went inside under the wheel to act like a spring.


            --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
            >
            >
            > Hello,
            >
            > This email message is a notification to let you know that
            > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the pota
            > group.
            >
            > File : /IMG_4341.jpg
            > Uploaded by : jamesa1102 JamesA1102@...
            > Description : Game "Trigger" 2
            >
            > You can access this file at the URL:
            > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/IMG_4341.jpg
            >
            > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
            > http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
            >
            > Regards,
            >
            > jamesa1102 JamesA1102@...
            >

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            Group: pota Message: 42686 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/22/2007
            Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
            .html
            .html.htmlIn a message dated 7/22/2007 2:26:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, stenosaurus@... writes:


            You're a lucky man Rory! I'd love to own one of these.

            Bruce



            All it takes is the willingness to spend whatever it takes.  I used to be that crazy, but not any more.  One piece I never got was the PLANET British quad.  By the time I could have gotten one my POTA-poster-collecting fever was gone and I wasn't willing to spend the $$$.

            -- Rory



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            Group: pota Message: 42687 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/22/2007
            Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
            .html
            Attachments :
              what are the dimensions of that Rory?

              --- Haristas@... wrote:

              > In a message dated 7/22/2007 11:24:48 AM Eastern
              > Standard Time,
              > stenosaurus@... writes:
              >
              >
              > > This is a HUGE banner from 1968. Bidding starts at
              > 500 dollars! Bruce
              >
              >
              >
              > I have it. Right now I can't recall how much I paid
              > for it. Could have been
              > $500, but I seem to recall $350. It was a number of
              > years ago.
              >
              > -- Rory
              >
              >
              > **************************************
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              Group: pota Message: 42688 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/22/2007
              Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
              .html
              Right...so maybe my foam is old and lost it's
              "spring"......=(


              --- James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

              >
              > Thanks for sending Tim. If I recall correctly there
              > was a round piece of
              > foam rubber that went inside under the wheel to act
              > like a spring.
              >
              >
              > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com
              > wrote:
              > >
              > >
              > > Hello,
              > >
              > > This email message is a notification to let you
              > know that
              > > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the
              > pota
              > > group.
              > >
              > > File : /IMG_4341.jpg
              > > Uploaded by : jamesa1102 JamesA1102@...
              > > Description : Game "Trigger" 2
              > >
              > > You can access this file at the URL:
              > >
              >
              http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/IMG_4341.jpg
              > >
              > > To learn more about file sharing for your group,
              > please visit:
              > > http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
              > >
              > > Regards,
              > >
              > > jamesa1102 JamesA1102@...
              > >
              >
              >
              >



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              Group: pota Message: 42689 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/22/2007
              Subject: Ape Museum
              .html
              Attachments :

                In the original POTA, when Taylor goes through the museum, he runs past a "sculpture" of a 3 fingered hand - that is clearly not an ape hand.

                My pondering is -  was this meant to be an abstract piece of "Ape Modern Art" or was it a representation of a mutant limb?  It was a big sculpture, so clearly wasn't a real fossil etc.

                Does anyone know why this was included as a set piece?





                Regards

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                Email Support Coordinator
                Phone Assist

                Tel: +64 3 962 3332 PO Box 203
                Email: paul_mannering@... Christchurch
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                Group: pota Message: 42690 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/22/2007
                Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
                .html

                They have a little blue pill for that now Tim.

                 




                "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
                Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com

                23/07/2007 08:47 a.m.
                Please respond to pota

                       
                        To:        pota@yahoogroups.com
                        cc:        
                        Subject:        Re: [POTA] Re: New file uploaded to pota



                Right...so maybe my foam is old and lost it's
                "spring"......=(


                --- James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

                >
                > Thanks for sending Tim. If I recall correctly there
                > was a round piece of
                > foam rubber that went inside under the wheel to act
                > like a spring.
                >
                >
                > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com
                > wrote:
                > >
                > >
                > > Hello,
                > >
                > > This email message is a notification to let you
                > know that
                > > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the
                > pota
                > > group.
                > >
                > > File : /IMG_4341.jpg
                > > Uploaded by : jamesa1102 JamesA1102@...
                > > Description : Game "Trigger" 2
                > >
                > > You can access this file at the URL:
                > >
                >
                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/IMG_4341.jpg
                > >
                > > To learn more about file sharing for your group,
                > please visit:
                > > http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
                > >
                > > Regards,
                > >
                > > jamesa1102 JamesA1102@...
                > >
                >
                >
                >



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                Group: pota Message: 42691 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/22/2007
                Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
                .html
                I am the same way now. Whatever I didn't buy then (when it was much cheaper) I wouldn't spend the money on these days.

                Bruce


                -----Original Message-----
                From: Haristas@...
                To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 3:40 pm
                Subject: [POTA] Re: Another rare APES poster

                In a message dated 7/22/2007 2:26:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:


                You're a lucky man Rory! I'd love to own one of these.

                Bruce



                All it takes is the willingness to spend whatever it takes.  I used to be that crazy, but not any more.  One piece I never got was the PLANET British quad.  By the time I could have gotten one my POTA-poster- collecting fever was gone and I wasn't willing to spend the $$$.

                -- Rory



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                Group: pota Message: 42692 From: James Date: 7/22/2007
                Subject: Re: Ape Museum
                .html

                In other words:


                --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
                >
                > In the original POTA, when Taylor goes through the museum, he runs past a
                > "sculpture" of a 3 fingered hand - that is clearly not an ape hand.
                >
                > My pondering is - was this meant to be an abstract piece of "Ape Modern
                > Art" or was it a representation of a mutant limb? It was a big sculpture,
                > so clearly wasn't a real fossil etc.
                >
                > Does anyone know why this was included as a set piece?
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > Regards
                > Paul Mannering
                > Email Support Coordinator
                > Phone Assist
                > Tel: +64 3 962 3332
                > PO Box 203
                > Email: paul_mannering@...
                > Christchurch
                > Web: www.westpac.co.nz
                > New Zealand
                >
                >
                >
                > The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you have received this communication by mistake, please advise the sender immediately and delete the message and any attachments. Nothing in this email designates an information system for the purposes of Section 11(a) of the New Zealand Electronic Transactions Act 2002. Westpac New Zealand Limited.
                >

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                Group: pota Message: 42693 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/22/2007
                Subject: Re: Ape Museum
                .html


                Sorry, I can't see that image - corporate firewall tends to block images pasted into emails.


                Can you send it direct as an attachment?

                .

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                Group: pota Message: 42694 From: James Date: 7/22/2007
                Subject: Re: Ape Museum
                .html

                How about some links:

                http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/message/42692

                or

                http://www.worldoflongmire.com/features/apes/planet5/claw.jpg


                --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
                >
                > Sorry, I can't see that image - corporate firewall tends to block images
                > pasted into emails.
                >
                > Can you send it direct as an attachment?
                >

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                Group: pota Message: 42695 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/22/2007
                Subject: Re: Ape Museum
                .html
                Attachments :
                  thanks - ill forward them to home and peruse.
                  Regards

                  Paul Mannering

                  Email Support Coordinator
                  Phone Assist

                  Tel: +64 3 962 3332 PO Box 203
                  Email: paul_mannering@... Christchurch
                  Web: www.westpac.co.nz New Zealand

                   


                  "James" <JamesA1102@...>
                  Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com

                  23/07/2007 02:20 P.M.
                  Please respond to pota

                         
                          To:        pota@yahoogroups.com
                          cc:        
                          Subject:        [POTA] Re: Ape Museum



                  How about some links:

                  http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/message/42692

                  or

                  http://www.worldoflongmire.com/features/apes/planet5/claw.jpg


                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
                  >
                  > Sorry, I can't see that image - corporate firewall tends to block images
                  > pasted into emails.
                  >
                  > Can you send it direct as an attachment?
                  >



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                  Group: pota Message: 42696 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/22/2007
                  Subject: Re: Ape Museum
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                  Attachments :
                    I've always thought it more to be a sculpture
                    .....the way it's just placed....check this pic
                    out....it looks like another sculpture next to it.....

                    --- paul_mannering@... wrote:

                    > In the original POTA, when Taylor goes through the
                    > museum, he runs past a
                    > "sculpture" of a 3 fingered hand - that is clearly
                    > not an ape hand.
                    >
                    > My pondering is - was this meant to be an abstract
                    > piece of "Ape Modern
                    > Art" or was it a representation of a mutant limb?
                    > It was a big sculpture,
                    > so clearly wasn't a real fossil etc.
                    >
                    > Does anyone know why this was included as a set
                    > piece?
                    >
                    >




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                    Group: pota Message: 42697 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/22/2007
                    Subject: New file uploaded to pota
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                    Group: pota Message: 42698 From: brendan486 Date: 7/23/2007
                    Subject: Re: Ape Museum
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                    It is obviously the claw from the Flying Serpent in The Animated
                    Series!
                    And if anyone counts the toes and compares and they don't exactly
                    match, that's because the Claw was re-imagined due to Director's Ego.

                    AWWWWW AWWWW AWWWWWWWW ( Look out Judy the screeching Flying thing is
                    coming to get your plane....)

                    Brendan.
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                    Group: pota Message: 42699 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/23/2007
                    Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
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                    .html.htmlIn a message dated 7/22/2007 4:47:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:


                    what are the dimensions of that Rory?



                    I haven't had the banner poster out in years (it's rolled up in a thick tube), and I don't have my pressbook handy, so if anyone else here can check it out there (Hunter's site, if you don't own a POTA pressbook?)....

                    I seem to recall something like 24"X48" or was it 64"?  My mind is going.... I'm afraid, Dave....

                    -- Rory



                    **************************************
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                    Group: pota Message: 42700 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/23/2007
                    Subject: Re: OT: Percy (Aboro) Rodrigues
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                    On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 06:32:42 -0700 "Jeff K." <veetus@...>
                    wrote:
                    > Anyway, Percy has a distincive voice and is a long time narrator of movie
                    >trailers ("The Exorcist", etc.). He did the trailer for "Jaws" and agreed to
                    >do the trailer for this documentary. Here's a link to the trailer plus
                    >pictures of Percy back in the day and now and background on getting him to do
                    >it. I thought it might be of interest.
                    > http://www.sharkisstillworking.com/default.asp?c=newtrailer

                    Too cool! Thanks for posting this, Jeff!

                    Hunter
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                    Group: pota Message: 42701 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 7/23/2007
                    Subject: Sorry for the Delay in my POTA audio Drama.
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                    Life, work, and all sorts of weird happenstances <my van has a cracked radiator and needs the head replaced> have conspired to delay POTA, I am working to solve this because I hate not being able to keep the show on schedule. Thank you for all the support and the kind words. POTA is still in production, and we are also planning a few surpirises here and there after the 1st movie adaption is completed. And Yes, I am planning on adapting Beneath POTA as well.
                     
                    Again think you for your patience, and I am sorry for the delays.
                    --
                    Bill Hollweg
                    Have Sword...
                         Will Slay...
                            Barbarian in need of Ale...
                    Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
                    Bill Hollweg
                    Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
                    www.brokensea.net
                    The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
                    http://www.brokensea.com and
                    http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
                    Planet of the Apes at
                    http://www.brokensea.com and
                    Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
                    http://www.brokensea.com and
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                    Group: pota Message: 42702 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 7/23/2007
                    Subject: BrokenSea changing Servers
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                    We are switching servers at BrokenSea, so in the interim use
                     
                    <our mirror site>
                     
                    the turnover is taking a few days, so please bear with us!
                     
                    Thank you for the interest!

                     
                    On 7/23/07, Kwork <kworkmeister@...> wrote:

                    Hey Bill,
                     
                    I noticed that
                     
                    is not working, and has not for a few days.  Will the site be coming back?  If not, it will be sorely missed.
                     
                    Travis




                    --
                    Bill Hollweg
                    Have Sword...
                         Will Slay...
                            Barbarian in need of Ale...
                    Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
                    Bill Hollweg
                    Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
                    www.brokensea.net
                    The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
                    http://www.brokensea.com and
                    http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
                    Planet of the Apes at
                    http://www.brokensea.com and
                    Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
                    http://www.brokensea.com and

                    --
                    Bill Hollweg
                    Have Sword...
                         Will Slay...
                            Barbarian in need of Ale...
                    Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
                    Bill Hollweg
                    Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
                    www.brokensea.net
                    The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
                    http://www.brokensea.com and
                    http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
                    Planet of the Apes at
                    http://www.brokensea.com and
                    Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
                    http://www.brokensea.com and
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                    Group: pota Message: 42703 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/23/2007
                    Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
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                    In a message dated 7/23/2007 11:32:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

                    what are the dimensions of that Rory?



                    I haven't had the banner poster out in years (it's rolled up in a thick tube), and I don't have my pressbook handy, so if anyone else here can check it out there (Hunter's site, if you don't own a POTA pressbook?). ...

                    I seem to recall something like 24"X48" or was it 64"?  My mind is going.... I'm afraid, Dave....

                    -- Rory



                    I think it was 24x60...it doesn't seem to be listed anymore on eBay.
                     
                    Bruce




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                    Group: pota Message: 42704 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/23/2007
                    Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
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                    So if my trigger works for more than 48 hours I should
                    see a doctor?


                    --- paul_mannering@... wrote:

                    > They have a little blue pill for that now Tim.
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
                    > Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com
                    > 23/07/2007 08:47 a.m.
                    > Please respond to pota
                    >
                    > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                    > cc:
                    > Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: New file
                    > uploaded to pota
                    >
                    >
                    > Right...so maybe my foam is old and lost it's
                    > "spring"......=(
                    >
                    >
                    > --- James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > >
                    > > Thanks for sending Tim. If I recall correctly
                    > there
                    > > was a round piece of
                    > > foam rubber that went inside under the wheel to
                    > act
                    > > like a spring.
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com
                    > > wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > Hello,
                    > > >
                    > > > This email message is a notification to let you
                    > > know that
                    > > > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of
                    > the
                    > > pota
                    > > > group.
                    > > >
                    > > > File : /IMG_4341.jpg
                    > > > Uploaded by : jamesa1102 JamesA1102@...
                    > > > Description : Game "Trigger" 2
                    > > >
                    > > > You can access this file at the URL:
                    > > >
                    > >
                    >
                    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/IMG_4341.jpg
                    > > >
                    > > > To learn more about file sharing for your group,
                    > > please visit:
                    > > > http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
                    > > >
                    > > > Regards,
                    > > >
                    > > > jamesa1102 JamesA1102@...
                    > > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    >
                    >
                    >
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                    Group: pota Message: 42705 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/23/2007
                    Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
                    .html
                    I just saw it on the ebay listing.....24x82...that IS
                    big!!

                    Tim

                    --- Haristas@... wrote:

                    > In a message dated 7/22/2007 4:47:25 PM Eastern
                    > Standard Time,
                    > apefan23@... writes:
                    >
                    >
                    > > what are the dimensions of that Rory?
                    > >
                    > >
                    >
                    > I haven't had the banner poster out in years (it's
                    > rolled up in a thick
                    > tube), and I don't have my pressbook handy, so if
                    > anyone else here can check it out
                    > there (Hunter's site, if you don't own a POTA
                    > pressbook?)....
                    >
                    > I seem to recall something like 24"X48" or was it
                    > 64"? My mind is going....
                    > I'm afraid, Dave....
                    >
                    > -- Rory
                    >
                    >
                    > **************************************
                    > Get a sneak peek of the
                    > all-new AOL at
                    > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
                    >




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                    Group: pota Message: 42706 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/23/2007
                    Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
                    .html
                    Attachments :
                      Inches?   Damn....  


                      Regards

                      Paul Mannering

                      Email Support Coordinator
                      Phone Assist

                      Tel: +64 3 962 3332 PO Box 203
                      Email: paul_mannering@... Christchurch
                      Web: www.westpac.co.nz New Zealand

                       


                      "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
                      Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com

                      24/07/2007 10:19 a.m.
                      Please respond to pota

                             
                              To:        pota@yahoogroups.com
                              cc:        
                              Subject:        Re: [POTA] Re: Another rare APES poster



                      I just saw it on the ebay listing.....24x82...that IS
                      big!!

                      Tim

                      --- Haristas@... wrote:

                      > In a message dated 7/22/2007 4:47:25 PM Eastern
                      > Standard Time,
                      > apefan23@... writes:
                      >
                      >
                      > > what are the dimensions of that Rory?
                      > >
                      > >
                      >
                      > I haven't had the banner poster out in years (it's
                      > rolled up in a thick
                      > tube), and I don't have my pressbook handy, so if
                      > anyone else here can check it out
                      > there (Hunter's site, if you don't own a POTA
                      > pressbook?)....
                      >
                      > I seem to recall something like 24"X48" or was it
                      > 64"?  My mind is going....
                      > I'm afraid, Dave....
                      >
                      > -- Rory
                      >
                      >
                      > **************************************
                      >  Get a sneak peek of the
                      > all-new AOL at
                      > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
                      >



                           
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                      Group: pota Message: 42707 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/23/2007
                      Subject: Birthday Reminder
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                      Group: pota Message: 42708 From: apecalypsenow Date: 7/24/2007
                      Subject: Name of the character - pics or link
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                      Hello fellow Apesters,

                      I'm here, you're beloved Italian POTA fan, T.C. I know you were missing
                      me! Yes, I know that! What a great and compact fan following is this. ;)

                      By the way, what's the name of that actress who gave that superb
                      performance in the TV SERIES ('Planet of The Apes: Adventures in the
                      Apeline One', 1974) as an Humanoid Chimp brainwashing Burke (or
                      Virdon)? What's her character? I remember I watched in awe the clip on
                      youtube, and she gave one of the best POTA performances of all the
                      times! And the make-up work on her was outstanding.

                      Thanks.


                      T.C.
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                      Group: pota Message: 42709 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/24/2007
                      Subject: Re: Name of the character - pics or link
                      .html
                      Attachments :
                        The character's name is Wanda and is played by Beverly Garland. Here's
                        a photo of Wanda


                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: apecalypsenow <apecalypsenow@...>
                        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 1:33 am
                        Subject: [POTA] Name of the character - pics or link























                        Hello fellow Apesters,



                        I'm here, you're beloved Italian POTA fan, T.C. I know you were missing

                        me! Yes, I know that! What a great and compact fan following is this. ;)



                        By the way, what's the name of that actress who gave that superb

                        performance in the TV SERIES ('Planet of The Apes: Adventures in the

                        Apeline One', 1974) as an Humanoid Chimp brainwashing Burke (or

                        Virdon)? What's her character? I remember I watched in awe the clip on

                        youtube, and she gave one of the best POTA performances of all the

                        times! And the make-up work on her was outstanding.



                        Thanks.



                        T.C.






















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                        Group: pota Message: 42710 From: apecalypsenow Date: 7/24/2007
                        Subject: Re: Name of the character - pics or link
                        .html
                        NOOO I can't see the pic! Why?

                        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
                        >
                        > The character's name is Wanda and is played by Beverly Garland.
                        Here's
                        > a photo of Wanda
                        >
                        >
                        > -----Original Message-----
                        > From: apecalypsenow <apecalypsenow@...>
                        > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                        > Sent: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 1:33 am
                        > Subject: [POTA] Name of the character - pics or link
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Hello fellow Apesters,
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > I'm here, you're beloved Italian POTA fan, T.C. I know you were
                        missing
                        >
                        > me! Yes, I know that! What a great and compact fan following is
                        this. ;)
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > By the way, what's the name of that actress who gave that superb
                        >
                        > performance in the TV SERIES ('Planet of The Apes: Adventures in the
                        >
                        > Apeline One', 1974) as an Humanoid Chimp brainwashing Burke (or
                        >
                        > Virdon)? What's her character? I remember I watched in awe the clip
                        on
                        >
                        > youtube, and she gave one of the best POTA performances of all the
                        >
                        > times! And the make-up work on her was outstanding.
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Thanks.
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > T.C.
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
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                        Group: pota Message: 42711 From: James Date: 7/24/2007
                        Subject: Re: Name of the character - pics or link
                        .html

                        Click Here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ti4.jpg


                        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > NOOO I can't see the pic! Why?
                        >
                        > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@ wrote:
                        > >
                        > > The character's name is Wanda and is played by Beverly Garland.
                        > Here's
                        > > a photo of Wanda
                        > >

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                        Group: pota Message: 42712 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/24/2007
                        Subject: New file uploaded to pota
                        .html
                        Hello,

                        This email message is a notification to let you know that
                        a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the pota
                        group.

                        File : /ti4.jpg
                        Uploaded by : jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
                        Description : Wanda

                        You can access this file at the URL:
                        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ti4.jpg

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                        Group: pota Message: 42713 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/24/2007
                        Subject: Re: Ape Museum
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                        I always presumed this was supposed to be modern art.
                         
                        Tim, could you post the image you were talking about to the files section. I don't see it included in your post with either browser I have.
                         
                         
                        Chris L.
                         
                         
                         
                        "paul_mannering@..." <paul_mannering@...> wrote:
                         
                        >>In the original POTA, when Taylor goes through the museum, he runs
                        past a
                        "sculpture" of a 3 fingered hand - that is clearly not an ape hand.
                        My pondering is - was this meant to be an abstract piece of "Ape Modern
                        Art" or was it a representation of a mutant limb? It was a big sculpture,
                        so clearly wasn't a real fossil etc.
                        Does anyone know why this was included as a set piece? <<
                         
                         
                        "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
                         
                        >>I've always thought it more to be a sculpture
                        .....the way it's just placed....check this pic
                        out....it looks like another sculpture next to it..... <<<.html
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                        Group: pota Message: 42714 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/24/2007
                        Subject: Re: Now THAT'S AN AUCTION!!!
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                        .html
                        Thanks for clearing things up Les!!
                         
                         
                        Chris L.
                         
                         
                         
                        "ansanaut" <les.hemstock@...> wrote:
                         
                        >>Hi Chris
                        This is Les Hemstock...about the Liberty piece. Please refer to my
                        previous email message for the forum with all the details. Rob will
                        forward to you too.

                        All your questions are answered therein pal! <<

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                        Group: pota Message: 42715 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/24/2007
                        Subject: Re: Eric Braeden gets Hollywood star
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                        Never saw that show actually, but I've always wanted to check i tout. I'll have to pick up the DVD sets on of these days.
                         
                         
                        Chris L.
                         
                         
                         
                        "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
                         
                        >>Did anyone else get "The Rat Patrol" on DVD? I have both seasons.
                        It's a
                        boy's adventure/comic- book level show but I like the cast and cinematography
                        (lots of desert). <<<.html
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                        Group: pota Message: 42716 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/24/2007
                        Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
                        .html
                        .html
                        Item number please?  :-)   Again, I didn't see the image anywhere in the post.
                         
                         
                        Chris L.
                         
                         
                         
                        "stenosaurus@..." <stenosaurus@...> wrote:
                         
                        >>This is a HUGE banner from 1968. Bidding starts at 500 dollars!
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                        Group: pota Message: 42717 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/24/2007
                        Subject: next summer
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                        Two words for me in that regard: Iron Man. Robert Downey Jr. looks the part, and I really like the different armor photos I've seen so far. Great cast, talented director, and everyone TAKING THEIR TIME.
                         
                        This one is particularly cool:
                         
                         
                         
                        Chris L.
                         
                         
                         
                        "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
                         
                        >>But Spielberg and Cruise have the two movies I'm looking forward to
                        the most next summer, "Indiana Jones 4" and the one shooting in Germany where Cruise plays the guy who carried in the suitcase bomb to kill Hitler (July 20, 1944; happy anniversary) . <<
                         
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                        Group: pota Message: 42718 From: apecalypsenow Date: 7/24/2007
                        Subject: Re: Name of the character - pics or link
                        .html
                        Many thanks. What can I say? Top notch make-up, top notch character,
                        top notch acting performance. Actually, this same pic seems a
                        beautiful painting. In all regards, that's one of the million of
                        reasons POTA is far superior to any other cinematic saga.




                        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
                        >
                        >
                        > Click Here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ti4.jpg
                        > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ti4.jpg>
                        >
                        >
                        > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@> wrote:
                        > >
                        > > NOOO I can't see the pic! Why?
                        > >
                        > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@ wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > > The character's name is Wanda and is played by Beverly Garland.
                        > > Here's
                        > > > a photo of Wanda
                        > > >
                        >
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                        Group: pota Message: 42719 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/24/2007
                        Subject: Re: Ape Museum
                        .html

                        It interests me because it suggests an intention to indicate that Apes were capable of artistic expression (which makes perfect sense in the POTA verse).

                        But are there any other examples of Ape art in any of the POTA media?

                        There are statues of the Lawgiver, intricate architecture and stylised buildings (which seem to be built around an intriguing ape aesthetic) interior lattices which are carefully designed to appear vine like, but no real samples of painting or abstract sculpture beyond that one really odd piece.


                        Is it because of the stifling of creative thought by the Orangs that the Apes haven't fostered a creative culture? Or are they just not sufficiently evolved to express themselves in matters of faith and creation beyond the rigid dogma of the sacred scrolls?




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                        Group: pota Message: 42720 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/24/2007
                        Subject: Re: next summer
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                        Having just seen Robert Downey Jnr in "A Scanner Darkly"  my faith in his ability to deliver a great performance has been restored.


                        Looking forward to Iron Man


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                        Group: pota Message: 42721 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/24/2007
                        Subject: New file uploaded to pota
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                        Hello,

                        This email message is a notification to let you know that
                        a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the pota
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                        File : /beneath065.jpg
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                        Group: pota Message: 42722 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/24/2007
                        Subject: Re: Ape Museum
                        .html
                        It's there already...called "PL_BTSmuseum.jpg "....I
                        think James put it in there....

                        --- Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:

                        > I always presumed this was supposed to be modern
                        > art.
                        >
                        > Tim, could you post the image you were talking about
                        > to the files
                        > section. I don't see it included in your post with
                        > either browser I have.
                        >
                        >
                        > Chris L.
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > "paul_mannering@..."
                        > <paul_mannering@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > >>In the original POTA, when Taylor goes through the
                        > museum, he runs past
                        > a
                        > "sculpture" of a 3 fingered hand - that is clearly
                        > not an ape hand.
                        > My pondering is - was this meant to be an abstract
                        > piece of "Ape Modern
                        > Art" or was it a representation of a mutant limb? It
                        > was a big sculpture,
                        >
                        > so clearly wasn't a real fossil etc.
                        > Does anyone know why this was included as a set
                        > piece? <<
                        >
                        >
                        > "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > >>I've always thought it more to be a sculpture
                        > .....the way it's just placed....check this pic
                        > out....it looks like another sculpture next to
                        > it..... <<




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                        Group: pota Message: 42723 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/24/2007
                        Subject: Re: Ape Museum
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                        Attachments :
                          I recall Z&C's house in Beneath had some art....Here's
                          one pic...On the wall there behind Brent....I remember
                          some art right inside their front door too....

                          and I will post it in the files too Chris!


                          --- paul_mannering@... wrote:

                          > It interests me because it suggests an intention to
                          > indicate that Apes
                          > were capable of artistic expression (which makes
                          > perfect sense in the POTA
                          > verse).
                          >
                          > But are there any other examples of Ape art in any
                          > of the POTA media?
                          >
                          > There are statues of the Lawgiver, intricate
                          > architecture and stylised
                          > buildings (which seem to be built around an
                          > intriguing ape aesthetic)
                          > interior lattices which are carefully designed to
                          > appear vine like, but no
                          > real samples of painting or abstract sculpture
                          > beyond that one really odd
                          > piece.
                          >
                          >
                          > Is it because of the stifling of creative thought by
                          > the Orangs that the
                          > Apes haven't fostered a creative culture? Or are
                          > they just not
                          > sufficiently evolved to express themselves in
                          > matters of faith and
                          > creation beyond the rigid dogma of the sacred
                          > scrolls?
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > .
                          > The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you
                          > have received this communication by mistake, please
                          > advise the sender immediately and delete the message
                          > and any attachments. Nothing in this email
                          > designates an information system for the purposes of
                          > Section 11(a) of the New Zealand Electronic
                          > Transactions Act 2002. Westpac New Zealand Limited.
                          >



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                          Group: pota Message: 42724 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/24/2007
                          Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster
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                          300133154756

                          --- Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:

                          > Item number please? :-) Again, I didn't see the
                          > image anywhere in the
                          > post.
                          >
                          >
                          > Chris L.
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > "stenosaurus@..." <stenosaurus@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > >>This is a HUGE banner from 1968. Bidding starts at
                          > 500 dollars! <<




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                          Group: pota Message: 42725 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/25/2007
                          Subject: Re: Ape Museum
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                            Thanks Tim.

                             


                            "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
                            Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com

                            25/07/2007 03:31 P.M.
                            Please respond to pota

                                   
                                    To:        pota@yahoogroups.com
                                    cc:        
                                    Subject:        Re: [POTA] Re: Ape Museum



                            I recall Z&C's house in Beneath had some art....Here's
                            one pic...On the wall there behind Brent....I remember
                            some art right inside their front door too....

                            and I will post it in the files too Chris!


                            --- paul_mannering@... wrote:

                            > It interests me because it suggests an intention to
                            > indicate that Apes
                            > were capable of artistic expression (which makes
                            > perfect sense in the POTA
                            > verse).
                            >
                            > But are there any other examples of Ape art in any
                            > of the POTA media?
                            >
                            > There are statues of the Lawgiver, intricate
                            > architecture and stylised
                            > buildings (which seem to be built around an
                            > intriguing ape aesthetic)
                            > interior lattices which are carefully designed to
                            > appear vine like, but no
                            > real samples of painting or abstract sculpture
                            > beyond that one really odd
                            > piece.
                            >
                            >
                            > Is it because of the stifling of creative thought by
                            > the Orangs that the
                            > Apes haven't fostered a creative culture? Or are
                            > they just not
                            > sufficiently evolved to express themselves in
                            > matters of faith and
                            > creation beyond the rigid dogma of the sacred
                            > scrolls?
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > .
                            > The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you
                            > have received this communication by mistake, please
                            > advise the sender immediately and delete the message
                            > and any attachments. Nothing in this email
                            > designates an information system for the purposes of
                            > Section 11(a) of the New Zealand Electronic
                            > Transactions Act 2002. Westpac New Zealand Limited.
                            >


                                 
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                            Group: pota Message: 42726 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/25/2007
                            Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
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                            In a message dated 7/16/2007 9:41:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:
                            But the problem is he only saw them as talking monkeys. You can blame FOX all you want but they are just a group of nameless executives. Burton put his name on the film so it was ultimately his responsibilty.
                             
                            I agree.  He can say the studio bullied him all he wants,
                            but as the director it's up to him to stand up to them and
                            fight for his vision.  I just don't think he really had one.
                             




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                            Group: pota Message: 42727 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/25/2007
                            Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
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                            In a message dated 7/17/2007 8:07:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
                            I read that Terry Hayes script!  It was crap.  There was such B.S. over that script.

                            -- Rory
                             
                            Yeah, Sam Hamm's was better.
                             




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                            Group: pota Message: 42728 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/25/2007
                            Subject: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?
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                             It's official. Jackie Earl Haley, aka Kraik, will play Rory, er, Rorschach in the movie version of the classic "Watchmen" graphic novel. It's being directed by Zack Snyder ("300") in Vancouver this fall. Also in the cast is Billy Crudup (Dr. Manhattan), Jeffrey Dean Morgan of "Grey's Anatomy" (the Comedian), Malin Akerman (Silk Spectre), Matthew Goode (Ozymandias) and Patrick Wilson (Nite Owl).    Jeff
                             
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                            Group: pota Message: 42729 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/25/2007
                            Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
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                              They were both crap. Fox exec Peter Chernin said the Hayes script was one of the best scripts he ever read. Typical. But I preferred it to the Hamm version which was awful.  The Rifkin one, too. Of all of them (including Burton's), Hayes was the best.    Jeff
                             
                            ----- Original Message -----
                            Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 4:50 PM
                            Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?

                            In a message dated 7/17/2007 8:07:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@aol. com writes:
                            I read that Terry Hayes script!  It was crap.  There was such B.S. over that script.

                            -- Rory
                             
                            Yeah, Sam Hamm's was better.
                             




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                            Group: pota Message: 42730 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/25/2007
                            Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
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                              Does anyone have these scripts on file?

                              Hunter?

                              Regards

                              Paul Mannering

                              Email Support Coordinator
                              Phone Assist

                              Tel: +64 3 962 3332 PO Box 203
                              Email: paul_mannering@... Christchurch
                              Web: www.westpac.co.nz New Zealand

                               


                              "Jeff K." <veetus@...>
                              Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com

                              26/07/2007 02:32 P.M.
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                                      cc:        
                                      Subject:        Re: [POTA] Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?



                                They were both crap. Fox exec Peter Chernin said the Hayes script was one of the best scripts he ever read. Typical. But I preferred it to the Hamm version which was awful.  The Rifkin one, too. Of all of them (including Burton's), Hayes was the best.    Jeff
                               
                              ----- Original Message -----
                              From: LordTZer0@...
                              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                              Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 4:50 PM
                              Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?

                              In a message dated 7/17/2007 8:07:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

                              I read that Terry Hayes script!  It was crap.  There was such B.S. over that script.

                              -- Rory

                               
                              Yeah, Sam Hamm's was better.
                               




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                              Group: pota Message: 42731 From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz Date: 7/25/2007
                              Subject: Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?
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                              YES!!!

                               


                              "Jeff K." <veetus@...>
                              Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com

                              26/07/2007 02:37 P.M.
                              Please respond to pota

                                     
                                      To:        <pota@yahoogroups.com>, <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                                      cc:        
                                      Subject:        [POTA] OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?



                               It's official. Jackie Earl Haley, aka Kraik, will play Rory, er, Rorschach in the movie version of the classic "Watchmen" graphic novel. It's being directed by Zack Snyder ("300") in Vancouver this fall. Also in the cast is Billy Crudup (Dr. Manhattan), Jeffrey Dean Morgan of "Grey's Anatomy" (the Comedian), Malin Akerman (Silk Spectre), Matthew Goode (Ozymandias) and Patrick Wilson (Nite Owl).    Jeff
                               



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                              Group: pota Message: 42732 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/25/2007
                              Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
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                              > Does anyone have these scripts on file?

                              > Hunter?

                              They're out there somewhere. My site is proud to be a PotA2001-free
                              zone, so the scripts aren't there. But I've seen them around on the
                              'net somewhere. The Forbidden Zone site, maybe?

                              Hunter
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                              Group: pota Message: 42733 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/25/2007
                              Subject: Birthday Reminder
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                              Group: pota Message: 42734 From: Dave B Date: 7/26/2007
                              Subject: Re: Hayes and Hamm scripts
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                              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > > Does anyone have these scripts on file?
                              >
                              > > Hunter?
                              >
                              > They're out there somewhere. My site is proud to be a PotA2001-free
                              > zone, so the scripts aren't there. But I've seen them around on the
                              > 'net somewhere. The Forbidden Zone site, maybe?
                              >
                              > Hunter
                              >


                              <http://www.simplyscripts.com/p.html">

                              Dave
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                              Group: pota Message: 42735 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/26/2007
                              Subject: Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?
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                              I've got Valley of the Dinosaurs in my machine at the moment, so Jackie
                              has certainly come a long way.I hope his career takes off--he gave a
                              luminous performance in The Legacy and my only concern is whether
                              Watchmen will let us really see him as an actor or whether the whole
                              thing will be a bit swamping and spectacle based.I'll definitely have
                              to dig out my Watchmen trade now! John, Scrolls.
                              >
                              > It's official. Jackie Earl Haley, aka Kraik, will play Rory, er,
                              Rorschach in the movie version of the classic "Watchmen" graphic novel.
                              It's being directed by Zack Snyder ("300") in Vancouver this fall. Also
                              in the cast is Billy Crudup (Dr. Manhattan), Jeffrey Dean Morgan
                              of "Grey's Anatomy" (the Comedian), Malin Akerman (Silk Spectre),
                              Matthew Goode (Ozymandias) and Patrick Wilson (Nite Owl). Jeff
                              >
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                              Group: pota Message: 42736 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/26/2007
                              Subject: OT: Sssssmokin'!
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                                The media watchdogs are at it again. Disney has become the first studio to ban smoking from it's family films, and it's executives will "discourage" smoking in it's more adult flicks, like Miramax and Touchstone. That's just more political B.S. and censorship. As a life long movie fan who never took up smoking, I find this  buckling to pressure groups ridiculous. Teaching kids not to smoke should take place in real life. Sometimes smoking works as a way to show character or, yeah, showing rebellion. There should be a pressure group to stop homogeneous corporate think in society.
                                There was cigar smoking in POTA and remember when Cornelius tries a smoke in "Escape"?     Jeff
                               
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                              Group: pota Message: 42737 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/26/2007
                              Subject: Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?
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                                Trivia: Which movie did Jackie Earl Haley star in and Tom Cruise was a supporting player?   Jeff
                               
                              ----- Original Message -----
                              Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:15 AM
                              Subject: [POTA] Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?

                              I've got Valley of the Dinosaurs in my machine at the moment, so Jackie
                              has certainly come a long way.I hope his career takes off--he gave a
                              luminous performance in The Legacy and my only concern is whether
                              Watchmen will let us really see him as an actor or whether the whole
                              thing will be a bit swamping and spectacle based.I'll definitely have
                              to dig out my Watchmen trade now! John, Scrolls.
                              >
                              > It's official. Jackie Earl Haley, aka Kraik, will play Rory, er,
                              Rorschach in the movie version of the classic "Watchmen" graphic novel.
                              It's being directed by Zack Snyder ("300") in Vancouver this fall. Also
                              in the cast is Billy Crudup (Dr. Manhattan), Jeffrey Dean Morgan
                              of "Grey's Anatomy" (the Comedian), Malin Akerman (Silk Spectre),
                              Matthew Goode (Ozymandias) and Patrick Wilson (Nite Owl). Jeff
                              >

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                              Group: pota Message: 42738 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/26/2007
                              Subject: Re: OT: Sssssmokin'!
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                              I can see it now--for the 40th Anniversary release, Julius will have
                              his cigar digitally removed and replaced with one of those twirly party
                              horns.Anybody who saw Linda Harrison's expression at the NEC this year
                              whilst she had to hold Buck Kartalian's cigar may think the ban is a
                              good idea.Wasn't there a group in America letting down tyres at one
                              time because it was wrong to imprison the air? And no, that's not a
                              punchline to a fart joke. John, Scrolls.
                              >
                              > The media watchdogs are at it again. Disney has become the first
                              studio to ban smoking from it's family films, and it's executives
                              will "discourage" smoking in it's more adult flicks, like Miramax and
                              Touchstone. That's just more political B.S. and censorship. As a life
                              long movie fan who never took up smoking, I find this buckling to
                              pressure groups ridiculous. Teaching kids not to smoke should take
                              place in real life. Sometimes smoking works as a way to show character
                              or, yeah, showing rebellion. There should be a pressure group to stop
                              homogeneous corporate think in society.
                              > There was cigar smoking in POTA and remember when Cornelius tries a
                              smoke in "Escape"? Jeff
                              >
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                              Group: pota Message: 42739 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/26/2007
                              Subject: Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?
                              .html
                              Lessee...Damnation Alley is probably too old, so could it be one of
                              those godawful Bad News Bears monstrosities? This isn't a trick
                              question about alien beings inhabiting the souls of actors is it?
                              John, Scrolls.
                              >
                              > Trivia: Which movie did Jackie Earl Haley star in and Tom Cruise
                              was a supporting player? Jeff
                              >
                              > ----- Original Message -----
                              > From: shanter2002
                              > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                              > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:15 AM
                              > Subject: [POTA] Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?
                              >
                              >
                              > I've got Valley of the Dinosaurs in my machine at the moment, so
                              Jackie
                              > has certainly come a long way.I hope his career takes off--he
                              gave a
                              > luminous performance in The Legacy and my only concern is whether
                              > Watchmen will let us really see him as an actor or whether the
                              whole
                              > thing will be a bit swamping and spectacle based.I'll definitely
                              have
                              > to dig out my Watchmen trade now! John, Scrolls.
                              > >
                              > > It's official. Jackie Earl Haley, aka Kraik, will play Rory,
                              er,
                              > Rorschach in the movie version of the classic "Watchmen" graphic
                              novel.
                              > It's being directed by Zack Snyder ("300") in Vancouver this
                              fall. Also
                              > in the cast is Billy Crudup (Dr. Manhattan), Jeffrey Dean Morgan
                              > of "Grey's Anatomy" (the Comedian), Malin Akerman (Silk Spectre),
                              > Matthew Goode (Ozymandias) and Patrick Wilson (Nite Owl). Jeff
                              > >
                              >
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                              Group: pota Message: 42740 From: David Giwner Date: 7/26/2007
                              Subject: Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?
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                              TAPPS????

                              "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
                                Trivia: Which movie did Jackie Earl Haley star in and Tom Cruise was a supporting player?   Jeff
                               
                              ----- Original Message -----
                              Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:15 AM
                              Subject: [POTA] Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?

                              I've got Valley of the Dinosaurs in my machine at the moment, so Jackie
                              has certainly come a long way.I hope his career takes off--he gave a
                              luminous performance in The Legacy and my only concern is whether
                              Watchmen will let us really see him as an actor or whether the whole
                              thing will be a bit swamping and spectacle based.I'll definitely have
                              to dig out my Watchmen trade now! John, Scrolls.
                              >
                              > It's official. Jackie Earl Haley, aka Kraik, will play Rory, er,
                              Rorschach in the movie version of the classic "Watchmen" graphic novel.
                              It's being directed by Zack Snyder ("300") in Vancouver this fall. Also
                              in the cast is Billy Crudup (Dr. Manhattan), Jeffrey Dean Morgan
                              of "Grey's Anatomy" (the Comedian), Malin Akerman (Silk Spectre),
                              Matthew Goode (Ozymandias) and Patrick Wilson (Nite Owl). Jeff
                              >



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                              Group: pota Message: 42741 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/26/2007
                              Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
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                              .html.htmlIn a message dated 7/25/2007 11:26:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, goathunter@... writes:


                              My site is proud to be a PotA2001-free
                              zone


                              YES!!!!



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                              Group: pota Message: 42742 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/26/2007
                              Subject: Re: OT: Would Burton do a good job NOW?
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                              .html.htmlIn a message dated 7/25/2007 10:45:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:


                              Fox exec Peter Chernin said the Hayes script was one of the best scripts he ever read.


                              You see... This statement was either bullshit, or it tells you reams about the corporate mentality at Fox, one that's still there.  They don't know shit from ... whatever you compare shit to.  And that's what we ended up with with POTA2001 -- a big pile of shit!

                              By the way, I finally got around to seeing LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD, and saw the Ursus poster thingie.  It had Asian writing over the image of Ursus that I can only wonder about the meaning of.

                              -- Rory



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                              Group: pota Message: 42743 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/26/2007
                              Subject: Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man?
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                              .html.htmlIn a message dated 7/26/2007 9:49:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:


                              Trivia: Which movie did Jackie Earl Haley star in and Tom Cruise was a supporting player?   Jeff


                              "San Fernando Valley Fluffer Boys" (1980)?



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