|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42844 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42845 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Museum |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42846 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42847 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42848 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: OT- Iron Man, The Dark Knight |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42849 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42850 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42851 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42852 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42853 |
From: Zach S |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42854 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42855 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42856 |
From: Rich Handley |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42857 |
From: rob reading |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42858 |
From: Shane Miller |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42859 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42860 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42861 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42862 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42863 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42864 |
From: Shane Miller |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42865 |
From: Shane Miller |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42866 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42867 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42868 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42869 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42870 |
From: James |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42871 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: POTA references in films |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42872 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42873 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42874 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42875 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Planet of the Ducks |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42876 |
From: eltf177 |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Introduction |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42877 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42878 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42879 |
From: brendan486 |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42880 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42881 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42882 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42883 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42884 |
From: James |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42885 |
From: James |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Introduction |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42886 |
From: James |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42887 |
From: brendan486 |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42888 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42889 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42890 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42891 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42892 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42893 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42894 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42895 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42896 |
From: Zach S |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42897 |
From: salgood sam |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3725 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42898 |
From: James |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3725 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42899 |
From: eltf177 |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Introduction |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42900 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42901 |
From: brendan486 |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42902 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42903 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42904 |
From: James |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Introduction |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42905 |
From: Shane Miller |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Introduction |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42906 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Introduction |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42907 |
From: Zach S |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Introduction |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42908 |
From: Zach S |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42909 |
From: David Giwner |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42910 |
From: Zach S |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Introduction |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42911 |
From: James |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42912 |
From: Zach S |
Date: 8/10/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42913 |
From: James |
Date: 8/10/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Introduction |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42914 |
From: James |
Date: 8/10/2007 |
| Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42915 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/10/2007 |
| Subject: POTA Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42916 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/10/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42917 |
From: James |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42918 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42919 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42920 |
From: eltf177 |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: My Third Ship Theory |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42921 |
From: Shane Miller |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42922 |
From: eltf177 |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Third Ship Part 2 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42923 |
From: eltf177 |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Third Ship Part 3 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42924 |
From: eltf177 |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Third Ship Part 4 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42925 |
From: eltf177 |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Third Ship Part 5 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42926 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: POTA Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42927 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42928 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42929 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42930 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42931 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: POTA done filming 40 years ago |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42932 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42933 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42934 |
From: James |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42935 |
From: James |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42936 |
From: James |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42937 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42938 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42939 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42940 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42941 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42942 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42943 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Double Feature |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42844 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster |
.html
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Can you believe someone dropped over a grand for that? Damn.
Chris L.
>>300133154756 <<
>>Item number please? :-) Again, I didn't see the
image anywhere in the post. <<
>>This is a HUGE banner from 1968. Bidding starts at 500 dollars!
<<<.html <.html
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42845 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Museum |
.html
.html
Thanks Tim!! Ditto for the file name of the 3 fingered hand/claw sculpture
from the first film.
Chris L.
>>I recall Z&C's house in Beneath had some
art....Here' s one pic...On the wall there behind Brent....I
remember some art right inside their front door too.... and I will
post it in the files too Chris! <<<.html <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42846 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: OT: Who's watching Kraik, man? |
.html
.html
Aside from JeH as Rorschach, I'm really not thrilled about any of this
casting. A big part of the story was that these characters were approaching
middle age, and Hollywood has seen fit to use the typical "fresh, young
cast" mentality.
Much as I love this story, I have doubts that anything other than a 12 to
15 hour mini-series could do it justice.
Chris L.
>>It's official. Jackie Earl Haley, aka Kraik, will play Rory, er,
Rorschach in the movie version of the classic "Watchmen" graphic novel. It's
being directed by Zack Snyder ("300") in Vancouver this fall. Also in the cast
is Billy Crudup (Dr. Manhattan), Jeffrey Dean Morgan of "Grey's Anatomy" (the
Comedian), Malin Akerman (Silk Spectre), Matthew Goode (Ozymandias) and Patrick
Wilson (Nite Owl). <<<.html <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42847 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster |
.html
.html
In a message dated 8/5/2007 7:35:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lawford42@... writes:
Can you believe someone dropped over a grand for that? Damn.
Chris L.
I believe it. The POTA door posters go for about the same thing when you
can find one.
Bruce Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.<.html
<.html
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42848 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: OT- Iron Man, The Dark Knight |
.html
.html
Did you see the trailer that was shown at the San Diego Comic Con? The
assholes at Paramount made You tube take it down ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVRQjCG8tn4),
but I'm sure someone has it on their site somewhere.
Chris L.
>>Having just seen Robert Downey Jnr in "A Scanner Darkly" my faith
in his ability to deliver a great performance has been
restored. Looking forward to Iron Man << <.html <.html
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42849 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
.htmlAnd I am going to be there! I am in LA now and
actually changed my return home ticket from Thursday
to Saturday so I can see these.....I saw Beneath on
the screen many many years ago and I saw both at Go
APe deal at the drive in but this will be so much more
memorable.....
I will alo be exploring location sites......so any one
else going Friday night?
Tim
--- drhasslein < drhasslein@...> wrote:
> On Friday August 10th, 7:30 p.m. American
> Cinematheque at the Aero
> Theatre in Santa Monica is showing a double feature
> of POTA (1968) and
> Beneath... I hope Beneath isn't the "pink print"
> last screened in Los
> Angeles.
>
>
________________________
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42850 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
.htmltrue....I had forgotten about those pics
--- stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 8/4/2007 12:10:47 P.M. Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> they could have recorded the dialog and dubbed it in
> later...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I dunno...those shots of Roddy & Sal w/the helmets
> on and no makeup leads me
> to believe at least those two wore the suits in that
> scene...maybe Kim had a
> stand-in.
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> ************************************** Get a sneak
> peek of the all-new AOL at
> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
>
________________________
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42851 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
.htmlI think the point is about the pic of Roddy and Sal is that why, if
their faces couldn't be seen, would you ever ask them to put on the
suits at all.They're clearly hot an uncomfortble and , given that
their roles were so punishing due to make-up anyway, you'd use
doubles unless, of course, they had to act---acting includes physical
action as well as speaking. John.
>
> Not to split too many hairs but that doesn't mean a thing. If you
can't see
> thier faces under the helmets they could've filmed it with anybody
and have
> the actors record the dialog later.
>
> I bet the real thing that determines whether or not the real actors
were
> used was if the shoot was first unit or second unit.
>
> First unit meaning the main unit with the stars and the director.
Second
> unit being a unit that gets non-star shots and other stuff not
directly
> related to having the stars, usually they have a special second
unit
> director. This could include location shots or stunt shots or
something they
> can get away with not having the main stars on set (which saves
money).
>
> So it is equally possible that this could be a second unit shoot or
this
> could've been a part of the first unit shoot.
>
> >I totally agree with you, Bruce. I'd mentioned that the dialogue
that was
> >exchanged between the three Ape-O-nauts was definitely Roddy, Kim
and Sal..
> >again, this scene was filmed but deleted. To me, restoring it
would make a
> >more complete movie. It would be interesting to see the ship
launched and
> >its eventual landing in the ocean.
> >
> >
> >
> >Zach
> >
> >
> >
> >-------Original Message-------
> >
> >
> >
> >From: stenosaurus@...
> >
> >Date: 8/2/2007 5:03:29 PM
> >
> >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >Subject: Re: [POTA] Escape deleted Scene
> >
> >
> >
> >In all these opening scenes the helmets were on and the visors
were down (I
> >think) so no one would see the ape-o-nauts till the opening
credits. It
> >could have been anyone behind those spacesuits but I'll bet it was
Roddy
> >Kim
> >and Sal.
> >
> >Bruce
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >
> >From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
> >
> >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >Sent: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 5:02 pm
> >
> >Subject: Re: [POTA] Escape deleted Scene
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >seems like there would be more photos of this
> >
> >too....I'm doubting that the three figures were really
> >
> >Roddy, Kim and Sal.....
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Zach S <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > WOW! This is just why the deleted scenes from
> >
> > > ESCAPE should be included on
> >
> > > a future DVD.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Zach
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > From: Tim \"apefan\
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Date: 7/26/2007 6:29:40 PM
> >
> > >
> >
> > > To: POTA; POTA DG
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Subject: [POTA] Escape deleted Scene
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I just received an Italian Escape one sheet I won on
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ebay.......
> >
> > >
> >
> > > VERY interesting image smack dab in the middle of
> >
> > >
> >
> > > it.....
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Tim
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42852 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
.htmlI can't begin to express how jealous I am of you guys getting to see
this! John, Scrolls.
>
> And I am going to be there! I am in LA now and
> actually changed my return home ticket from Thursday
> to Saturday so I can see these.....I saw Beneath on
> the screen many many years ago and I saw both at Go
> APe deal at the drive in but this will be so much more
> memorable.....
> I will alo be exploring location sites......so any one
> else going Friday night?
>
> Tim
>
> --- drhasslein <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> > On Friday August 10th, 7:30 p.m. American
> > Cinematheque at the Aero
> > Theatre in Santa Monica is showing a double feature
> > of POTA (1968) and
> > Beneath... I hope Beneath isn't the "pink print"
> > last screened in Los
> > Angeles.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42853 |
From: Zach S |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
.html.html
| I'd heard that story too, and about how claustrophobic Kim was in that makeup...as well as Sal, the BEHIND DVD stated that "they had to hug Sal a lot; he was very uncomfortable being a chimpanzee." Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 8/4/2007 11:24:14 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [POTA] Escape deleted Scene In a message dated 8/4/2007 12:11:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, stenosaurus@ aol.com writes: ...maybe Kim had a stand-in. I'm sure they didn't push Kim a lot. She was very clostrophobic in the makeup. I know she had a stand in for the test footage. Her stand in was bitten by Milo and a breast plate had to be made for Kim just
in case. You can't have the star getting monkey boob bites can you?
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42854 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Another rare APES poster |
.html.html .htmlIn a message dated 8/5/2007 7:35:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, lawford42@... writes:
Can you believe someone dropped over a grand for that? Damn.
Chris L.
Well, it gives me hope that whenever I do decide to sell some of my stuff I'll get some money for it.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42855 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
.html.html .htmlIn a message dated 8/6/2007 4:25:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, john@... writes:
I can't begin to express how jealous I am of you guys getting to see
this! John, Scrolls.
Yeah, it sucks, especially if I hear the prints were nice.
-- Rory
************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42856 |
From: Rich Handley |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlAt 04:00 AM 8/6/2007, you wrote:
>7. OT- Iron Man, The Dark Knight
>Posted by: "Chris Lawless" lawford42@... totellthetruth42
>Did you see the trailer that was shown at the San Diego Comic Con? The
>assholes at Paramount made You tube take it down
>(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVRQjCG8tn4), but I'm sure someone has it
>on their site somewhere.
>Between this and The Dark Knight
>(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWw0ov-cAUg), I think we're going to have
>two great Superhero movies next summer.
I hope so...I have to be honest, I wasn't too impressed with the Iron
Man trailer. It smacks of the typical "Big Explosions and More Big
Explosions" type of action film that I'm usually not too keen
on. Hopefully, they'll prove me wrong. As for "Dark Knight," I'd be
content not to get another Joker film, as I loved Nicholson in the
role and don't really need to see anyone else play him, especially if
(as the trailer seems to indicate) Ledger is just going to imitate him anyway.
You know, I've noticed something about myself in the past couple of
years...as I'm approaching 40, I'm starting to lose my passion for
action films, superheroes and science fiction. I'm a lifelong fan of
all three, but lately...I find I'm losing the desire to immerse
myself in them. As a result, I'm seeing fewer and fewer movies, I'm
hardly watching any TV at all outside of BSG, SG-1 and Lost. One of
those is already canceled, and another has only one season left, and
when they're all done, I don't plan to find any new shows to replace them.
I'm also considering selling large portions of my collection and
being done with it, as I've already done with my entire action-figure
collection. Part of my just wants to have a simpler life
unencumbered with so many hobbies to pursue and so many possessions
to fill my home. The videos and DVDs and comic books I used to
treasure are becoming less and less important to me...there are tons
of books sitting unread on my shelves...I've stopped watching several
shows I used to watch...and part of me just wants to sell the entire
thing and spend more time with my family instead.
Has anyone else gone through this as well? <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42857 |
From: rob reading |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlMost of my original collection went when I was in my mid twenties when I
started building a family. When I hit 41 I wanted it all back. My kids have
grown up, but not me, and I have spent shed loads on my latest collection
and now have things that i'd never dreamed of, including 2 more kids. 7 in
total!!!
Rob
>From: Rich Handley <handleyr@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3722
>Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:38:13 -0400
>
>At 04:00 AM 8/6/2007, you wrote:
> >7. OT- Iron Man, The Dark Knight
> >Posted by: "Chris Lawless" lawford42@... totellthetruth42
> >Did you see the trailer that was shown at the San Diego Comic Con? The
> >assholes at Paramount made You tube take it down
> >(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVRQjCG8tn4), but I'm sure someone has it
> >on their site somewhere.
> >Between this and The Dark Knight
> >(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWw0ov-cAUg), I think we're going to have
> >two great Superhero movies next summer.
>
>
>I hope so...I have to be honest, I wasn't too impressed with the Iron
>Man trailer. It smacks of the typical "Big Explosions and More Big
>Explosions" type of action film that I'm usually not too keen
>on. Hopefully, they'll prove me wrong. As for "Dark Knight," I'd be
>content not to get another Joker film, as I loved Nicholson in the
>role and don't really need to see anyone else play him, especially if
>(as the trailer seems to indicate) Ledger is just going to imitate him
>anyway.
>
>You know, I've noticed something about myself in the past couple of
>years...as I'm approaching 40, I'm starting to lose my passion for
>action films, superheroes and science fiction. I'm a lifelong fan of
>all three, but lately...I find I'm losing the desire to immerse
>myself in them. As a result, I'm seeing fewer and fewer movies, I'm
>hardly watching any TV at all outside of BSG, SG-1 and Lost. One of
>those is already canceled, and another has only one season left, and
>when they're all done, I don't plan to find any new shows to replace them.
>
>I'm also considering selling large portions of my collection and
>being done with it, as I've already done with my entire action-figure
>collection. Part of my just wants to have a simpler life
>unencumbered with so many hobbies to pursue and so many possessions
>to fill my home. The videos and DVDs and comic books I used to
>treasure are becoming less and less important to me...there are tons
>of books sitting unread on my shelves...I've stopped watching several
>shows I used to watch...and part of me just wants to sell the entire
>thing and spend more time with my family instead.
>
>Has anyone else gone through this as well?
>
_____
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42858 |
From: Shane Miller |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlYou Tube has 2 Dark Knight previews that look legit. One comes from this link and one looks like someone bootlegged it from inside a theatre. What gives? Will Iron Man appear anywhere? Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote: At 04:00 AM 8/6/2007, you wrote: >7. OT- Iron Man, The Dark Knight >Posted by: "Chris Lawless" lawford42@juno. com totellthetruth42 >Did you see the trailer that was shown at the San Diego Comic Con? The >assholes at
Paramount made You tube take it down >( http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fVRQjCG8tn4), but I'm sure someone has it >on their site somewhere. >Between this and The Dark Knight >( http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=UWw0ov- cAUg), I think we're going to have >two great Superhero movies next summer. I hope so...I have to be honest, I wasn't too impressed with the Iron Man trailer. It smacks of the typical "Big Explosions and More Big Explosions" type of action film that I'm usually not too keen on. Hopefully, they'll prove me wrong. As for "Dark Knight," I'd be content not to get another Joker film, as I loved Nicholson in the role and don't really need to see anyone else play him, especially if
(as the trailer seems to indicate) Ledger is just going to imitate him anyway. You know,
I've noticed something about myself in the past couple of years...as I'm approaching 40, I'm starting to lose my passion for action films, superheroes and science fiction. I'm a lifelong fan of all three, but lately...I find I'm losing the desire to immerse myself in them. As a result, I'm seeing fewer and fewer movies, I'm hardly watching any TV at all outside of BSG, SG-1 and Lost. One of those is already canceled, and another has only one season left, and when they're all done, I don't plan to find any new shows to replace them. I'm also considering selling large portions of my collection and being done with it, as I've already done with my entire action-figure collection. Part of my just wants to have a simpler life unencumbered with so many hobbies to pursue and so many possessions to fill my home. The videos and DVDs and comic books I used to
treasure are becoming less and less important to me...there are tons
of books sitting unread on my shelves...I' ve stopped watching several shows I used to watch...and part of me just wants to sell the entire thing and spend more time with my family instead. Has anyone else gone through this as well?
Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42859 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
.htmlI will give a full report .....hopefully they would
use good prints being a film lover's forum....
--- Haristas@... wrote:
> In a message dated 8/6/2007 4:25:14 AM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> john@... writes:
>
>
> > I can't begin to express how jealous I am of you
> guys getting to see
> > this! John, Scrolls.
> >
>
> Yeah, it sucks, especially if I hear the prints were
> nice.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> **************************************
> Get a sneak peek of the all-new
> AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
>
________________________
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42860 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlOf course once you have a family with kids whose needs cost more the older they get you tend to cut down on collecting things-narrow your interests so to speak. I've sold a lot of my collectibles on eBay and to friends but there is a core set of items I've collected and owned for longer than I've known my wife (and we've been together on and off for 30 years!) that I will, barring any great financial emergency in my life, keep my whole life and pass on to my kids.
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Handley <handleyr@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 7:38 am
Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3722
At 04:00 AM 8/6/2007, you wrote:
>7. OT- Iron Man, The Dark Knight
>Posted by: "Chris Lawless" lawford42@juno. com totellthetruth42
>Did you see the trailer that was shown at the San Diego Comic Con? The
>assholes at Paramount made You tube take it down
>(http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fVRQjCG8tn4), but I'm sure someone has it
>on their site somewhere.
>Between this and The Dark Knight
>(http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=UWw0ov- cAUg), I think we're going to have
>two great Superhero movies next summer.
I hope so...I have to be honest, I wasn't too impressed with the Iron
Man trailer. It smacks of the typical "Big Explosions and More Big
Explosions" type of action film that I'm usually not too keen
on. Hopefully, they'll prove me wrong. As for "Dark Knight," I'd be
content not to get another Joker film, as I loved Nicholson in the
role and don't really need to see anyone else play him, especially if
(as the trailer seems to indicate) Ledger is just going to imitate him anyway.
You know, I've noticed something about myself in the past couple of
years...as I'm approaching 40, I'm starting to lose my passion for
action films, superheroes and science fiction. I'm a lifelong fan of
all three, but lately...I find I'm losing the desire to immerse
myself in them. As a result, I'm seeing fewer and fewer movies, I'm
hardly watching any TV at all outside of BSG, SG-1 and Lost. One of
those is already canceled, and another has only one season left, and
when they're all done, I don't plan to find any new shows to replace them.
I'm also considering selling large portions of my collection and
being done with it, as I've already done with my entire action-figure
collection. Part of my just wants to have a simpler life
unencumbered with so many hobbies to pursue and so many possessions
to fill my home. The videos and DVDs and comic books I used to
treasure are becoming less and less important to me...there are tons
of books sitting unread on my shelves...I' ve stopped watching several
shows I used to watch...and part of me just wants to sell the entire
thing and spend more time with my family instead.
Has anyone else gone through this as well?
<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42861 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.html
.html
In a message dated 8/6/2007 10:13:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
readingrob@... writes:
Most
of my original collection went when I was in my mid twenties when I
started building a family. When I hit 41 I wanted it all back.
It comes and goes.
It depends on my other interests.
I watch less anime as well, but
I'm a sucker for a good story.
Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42862 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlI'm keeping all my Ape stuff but selling EVERYTHING
else.....well....maybe not the Bond stuff just yet....
Tim
--- LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 8/6/2007 10:13:09 A.M. Central
> Daylight Time,
> readingrob@... writes:
>
> Most of my original collection went when I was in
> my mid twenties when I
> started building a family. When I hit 41 I wanted it
> all back.
>
>
>
> It comes and goes.
> It depends on my other interests.
> I watch less anime as well, but
> I'm a sucker for a good story.
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** Get a sneak
> peek of the all-new AOL at
> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
>
________________________
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|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42863 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
.htmlThis is just to inform you, they never shot any scenes of the ship
launching or landing. Such things were not even scripted.
Cripes, PLANET barely had a crash landing (all their shots were
interior shots/the camera spinning around showing exterior scenery.)
They never had anything such as miniatures showing the ship in splash-
down mode, so what would make anybody think that ESCAPE, with it's
virtual non-existing budget would afford itself the luxery of showing
the ship in flight?
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zach S" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
It would be interesting to see the ship launched and it's eventual
landing in the ocean. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42864 |
From: Shane Miller |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlWill your kids appreciate everything as much as you
do? Will they respect what the items truly mean to
you?
--- stenosaurus@... wrote:
> Of course once you have a family with kids whose
> needs cost more the older they get you tend to cut
> down on collecting things-narrow your interests so
> to speak. I've sold a lot of my collectibles on eBay
> and to friends but there is a core set of items I've
> collected and owned for longer than I've known my
> wife (and we've been together on and off for 30
> years!) that I will,?barring any great financial
> emergency in my life, keep my whole life and pass on
> to my kids.
>
> Bruce?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Handley <handleyr@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 7:38 am
> Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3722
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 04:00 AM 8/6/2007, you wrote:
> >7. OT- Iron Man, The Dark Knight
> >Posted by: "Chris Lawless" lawford42@...
> totellthetruth42
> >Did you see the trailer that was shown at the San
> Diego Comic Con? The
> >assholes at Paramount made You tube take it down
> >(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVRQjCG8tn4), but
> I'm sure someone has it
> >on their site somewhere.
> >Between this and The Dark Knight
> >(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWw0ov-cAUg), I
> think we're going to have
> >two great Superhero movies next summer.
>
> I hope so...I have to be honest, I wasn't too
> impressed with the Iron
> Man trailer. It smacks of the typical "Big
> Explosions and More Big
> Explosions" type of action film that I'm usually not
> too keen
> on. Hopefully, they'll prove me wrong. As for "Dark
> Knight," I'd be
> content not to get another Joker film, as I loved
> Nicholson in the
> role and don't really need to see anyone else play
> him, especially if
> (as the trailer seems to indicate) Ledger is just
> going to imitate him anyway.
>
> You know, I've noticed something about myself in the
> past couple of
> years...as I'm approaching 40, I'm starting to lose
> my passion for
> action films, superheroes and science fiction. I'm a
> lifelong fan of
> all three, but lately...I find I'm losing the desire
> to immerse
> myself in them. As a result, I'm seeing fewer and
> fewer movies, I'm
> hardly watching any TV at all outside of BSG, SG-1
> and Lost. One of
> those is already canceled, and another has only one
> season left, and
> when they're all done, I don't plan to find any new
> shows to replace them.
>
> I'm also considering selling large portions of my
> collection and
> being done with it, as I've already done with my
> entire action-figure
> collection. Part of my just wants to have a simpler
> life
> unencumbered with so many hobbies to pursue and so
> many possessions
> to fill my home. The videos and DVDs and comic books
> I used to
> treasure are becoming less and less important to
> me...there are tons
> of books sitting unread on my shelves...I've stopped
> watching several
> shows I used to watch...and part of me just wants to
> sell the entire
> thing and spend more time with my family instead.
>
> Has anyone else gone through this as well?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42865 |
From: Shane Miller |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlWhat kind of Bond stuff do you have? I have a big
collection also.
--- "Tim \"apefan\"" < apefan23@...> wrote:
> I'm keeping all my Ape stuff but selling EVERYTHING
> else.....well....maybe not the Bond stuff just
> yet....
>
> Tim
>
> --- LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
> >
> > In a message dated 8/6/2007 10:13:09 A.M. Central
> > Daylight Time,
> > readingrob@... writes:
> >
> > Most of my original collection went when I was in
> > my mid twenties when I
> > started building a family. When I hit 41 I wanted
> it
> > all back.
> >
> >
> >
> > It comes and goes.
> > It depends on my other interests.
> > I watch less anime as well, but
> > I'm a sucker for a good story.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** Get a sneak
> > peek of the all-new AOL at
> > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
> >
>
>
>
>
>
________________________
________________________
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42866 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.html> Will your kids appreciate everything as much as you
> do? Will they respect what the items truly mean to
> you?
Based on my experience, no. Not even a little bit.
Hunter <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42867 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
.htmlPaul Dehn's Final Screenplay , October 28, 1970, for Escape opens
with 'THE EXPLOSION OF ROCKETS as we watch as it speeds away from
camera'. Then the script describes the astronauts watching the Earth
blow up. Later 'We are crashing rapidly into the ocean' and 'The
spacecraft splits the water into churning waves'.Shortly after, we
see the helicopter.It will be on Hunter's site and is a good read--
probably what Marvel used for their adaptation, too.John, Scrolls.
>
> This is just to inform you, they never shot any scenes of the ship
> launching or landing. Such things were not even scripted.
>
> Cripes, PLANET barely had a crash landing (all their shots were
> interior shots/the camera spinning around showing exterior scenery.)
> They never had anything such as miniatures showing the ship in
splash-
> down mode, so what would make anybody think that ESCAPE, with it's
> virtual non-existing budget would afford itself the luxery of
showing
> the ship in flight?
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zach S" <Zasco1957@> wrote:
> It would be interesting to see the ship launched and it's eventual
> landing in the ocean.
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42868 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlI don't expect them to appreciate the items but they will respect them when they find out what they're worth! I assume they'll sell the items and hopefully use the money for something non-frivolous.
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: Shane Miller <masonverger12@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 9:48 am
Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3722
Will your kids appreciate everything as much as you
do? Will they respect what the items truly mean to
you?
--- stenosaurus@ aol.com wrote:
> Of course once you have a family with kids whose
> needs cost more the older they get you tend to cut
> down on collecting things-narrow your interests so
> to speak. I've sold a lot of my collectibles on eBay
> and to friends but there is a core set of items I've
> collected and owned for longer than I've known my
> wife (and we've been together on and off for 30
> years!) that I will,?barring any great financial
> emergency in my life, keep my whole life and pass on
> to my kids.
>
> Bruce?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Handley <handleyr@optonline. net>
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 7:38 am
> Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3722
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 04:00 AM 8/6/2007, you wrote:
> >7. OT- Iron Man, The Dark Knight
> >Posted by: "Chris Lawless" lawford42@juno. com
> totellthetruth42
> >Did you see the trailer that was shown at the San
> Diego Comic Con? The
> >assholes at Paramount made You tube take it down
> >(http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fVRQjCG8tn4), but
> I'm sure someone has it
> >on their site somewhere.
> >Between this and The Dark Knight
> >(http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=UWw0ov- cAUg), I
> think we're going to have
> >two great Superhero movies next summer.
>
> I hope so...I have to be honest, I wasn't too
> impressed with the Iron
> Man trailer. It smacks of the typical "Big
> Explosions and More Big
> Explosions" type of action film that I'm usually not
> too keen
> on. Hopefully, they'll prove me wrong. As for "Dark
> Knight," I'd be
> content not to get another Joker film, as I loved
> Nicholson in the
> role and don't really need to see anyone else play
> him, especially if
> (as the trailer seems to indicate) Ledger is just
> going to imitate him anyway.
>
> You know, I've noticed something about myself in the
> past couple of
> years...as I'm approaching 40, I'm starting to lose
> my passion for
> action films, superheroes and science fiction. I'm a
> lifelong fan of
> all three, but lately...I find I'm losing the desire
> to immerse
> myself in them. As a result, I'm seeing fewer and
> fewer movies, I'm
> hardly watching any TV at all outside of BSG, SG-1
> and Lost. One of
> those is already canceled, and another has only one
> season left, and
> when they're all done, I don't plan to find any new
> shows to replace them.
>
> I'm also considering selling large portions of my
> collection and
> being done with it, as I've already done with my
> entire action-figure
> collection. Part of my just wants to have a simpler
> life
> unencumbered with so many hobbies to pursue and so
> many possessions
> to fill my home. The videos and DVDs and comic books
> I used to
> treasure are becoming less and less important to
> me...there are tons
> of books sitting unread on my shelves...I' ve stopped
> watching several
> shows I used to watch...and part of me just wants to
> sell the entire
> thing and spend more time with my family instead.
>
> Has anyone else gone through this as well?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42869 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
|
.html The banner/poster says two apes for the price of one. The Aero ticket
is $10. How much was it in the seventies? Anyone remember? <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42870 |
From: James |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
.htmlBack then I think it was around $2.50. But $10 is not bad. Most places are $15 these days.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote: > > The banner/poster says two apes for the price of one. The Aero ticket > is $10. How much was it in the seventies? Anyone remember? >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42871 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: POTA references in films |
.htmlI noticed on The Simpsons movie that
they paid tribute to several different films - and maybe it was unintentional
and maybe they were just being uber subtle - but there is a scene when
the family is running away and this includes a brief sequence of them running
through a cornfield.
They also had scenes from Poltergeist,
took the piss out of Disney animated films and several others. A
scene involving a ruined Statue of Liberty would have been more blatant
(but appropriate given the plot).
Paul Mannering
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42872 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 8/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
.htmlAs far as my saying things of that nature weren't scripted, I stand
corrected!
Still, being scripted does NOT equate to it being shot. And the things
mentioned in your post were ceratinly out of the budget of ESCAPE, so
they were almost certainly not filmed. Plus, what you posted never
actually mentions that we see these things happen to the ship. By that
I mean they do not say that they will show the ship itself going thru
these motions, and it would probably been more of the same as we seen
in PLANET, in other words just interior shots/exterior shots yo
simulate seeing it.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Paul Dehn's Final Screenplay , October 28, 1970, for Escape opens
> with 'THE EXPLOSION OF ROCKETS as we watch as it speeds away from
> camera'. Then the script describes the astronauts watching the Earth
> blow up. Later 'We are crashing rapidly into the ocean' and 'The
> spacecraft splits the water into churning waves'.Shortly after, we
> see the helicopter.It will be on Hunter's site and is a good read--
> probably what Marvel used for their adaptation, too.John, Scrolls. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42873 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
.htmlI wasn't really suggesting you were wrong as this script may not have
been the final shooting script--there are scripts that are 'Revised
Final'etc for the tv series, so the whole ship bit may have been
excised from the final shooting script.My personal view is that
the 'live'action footage, of the three inside the capsule, WAS shot,
and then, rather than spend money on special effects to surround it,
cut.That picture of Roddy and Sal is interior and looks like they've
come off a stage, not off a beach and why else would they be suited
up without makeup.Also, if it's the same ship in the TV Series, why
did they bother HAVING an interior, with seats for three, if all we
were going to see was the outside--I think they planned and probably
shot interior scenes. Jiust my humble opinion! John, Scrolls.
>
> As far as my saying things of that nature weren't scripted, I stand
> corrected!
>
> Still, being scripted does NOT equate to it being shot. And the
things
> mentioned in your post were ceratinly out of the budget of ESCAPE,
so
> they were almost certainly not filmed. Plus, what you posted never
> actually mentions that we see these things happen to the ship. By
that
> I mean they do not say that they will show the ship itself going
thru
> these motions, and it would probably been more of the same as we
seen
> in PLANET, in other words just interior shots/exterior shots yo
> simulate seeing it.
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> >
> > Paul Dehn's Final Screenplay , October 28, 1970, for Escape opens
> > with 'THE EXPLOSION OF ROCKETS as we watch as it speeds away from
> > camera'. Then the script describes the astronauts watching the
Earth
> > blow up. Later 'We are crashing rapidly into the ocean' and 'The
> > spacecraft splits the water into churning waves'.Shortly after,
we
> > see the helicopter.It will be on Hunter's site and is a good read-
-
> > probably what Marvel used for their adaptation, too.John, Scrolls.
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42874 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.html> I don't expect them to appreciate the items but they will respect
> them when they find out what they're worth! I assume they'll sell the
> items and hopefully use the money for something non-frivolous.
You're also making assumptions about what things will be worth in the
future. I had a lot of stuff that I used to think was worth a lot
until I tried to sell it and couldn't get anything for it.
Hunter <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42875 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Planet of the Ducks |
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.html Just in time to make a push for President, Howard the Duck is back soon
in a 4-part mini-series scribed by our very own Ty Templeton--well
worth looking out for from what I've seen.John, Scrolls. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42876 |
From: eltf177 |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Introduction |
|
.html I'm a newbie to the group. Been a fan of the movies, TV series and
Cartoon for years. I have the Marvel Magazine series, the Adventure
Comics series and LOVED Revolution on the POTA! I've been getting back
into it lately (bought the TV series and Cartoon on DVD, better than
I'd remembered).
The only big problem I have (which I understand many others do as
well) are the continunity problems, understandable in such a massive
series. For me, the biggest is exactly where did Cornelius, Zira and
Milo get the ship they used in ESCAPE?
Looking forward to lively discussions with fellow fans! <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42877 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlWell I've been collecting APES movie memorabilia since 1971...in those days original B/W 8x10's were 1.50 each and the color lobby cards were 2.00 each...posters were 5.00 apiece when I bought them...they've gone up quite a bit since then and I believe they will continue to do so. But I know what you mean...anybody remember Beanie Babies?
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 8:46 am
Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3722
> I don't expect them to appreciate the items but they will respect
> them when they find out what they're worth! I assume they'll sell the
> items and hopefully use the money for something non-frivolous.
You're also making assumptions about what things will be worth in the
future. I had a lot of stuff that I used to think was worth a lot
until I tried to sell it and couldn't get anything for it.
Hunter
<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42878 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.html.html .htmlIn a message dated 8/8/2007 3:37:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, stenosaurus@... writes:
But I know what you mean...anybody remember Beanie Babies?
Bruce
Anyone remember Munchie-chi?
-- Rory
************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42879 |
From: brendan486 |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlI have to agree with Hunter here.With a slight caveat. A few things
will increase or hold their prices. An Original One sheet for Planet
Of The Apes for example.Still expensive and in theory, should hold
it's value. But I believe Apes collecting is at a low. Many items
that should fetch a good return, just don't.I sell regularly on ebay
and once had a shop selling Movie and TV Collectables.The supply and
demand, like any product, fluctuates.
Trends also impact. About four or five months ago Ape Jig Saw
puzzles were fetching good prices on ebay.At least the UK puzzles of
the TV show were. Now you can get them for £1.00 or £2.00. Same
happened with the British annuals. The British comics have no value
at all and even the Mego's are going around on ebay or selling low.
Many serious collectors are in their 30's or 40's or older.They have
what they want and the younger fan base is smaller and has much more
to spend their ill gotten pocket money on.
Taking into account the value of money way back compared to todays
purchasing power, I think that Apes stuff (technical term) is at
rock bottom prices. Bargains galore.
IN the 80's something that cost $2.00 would be say $5.00 now, but
you can buy the $2.00 item for $2.50. That is not an increase in
value, but a loss.
Buyers market at the moment.
Brendan.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> Well I've been collecting APES?movie memorabilia?since 1971...in
those days original B/W 8x10's were 1.50 each and the color lobby
cards were 2.00 each...posters were 5.00 apiece when I bought
them...they've gone up quite a bit since then and I believe they
will continue to do so. But I know what you mean...anybody remember
Beanie Babies?
>
> Bruce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 8:46 am
> Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3722
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I don't expect them to appreciate the items but they will respect
> > them when they find out what they're worth! I assume they'll
sell the
> > items and hopefully use the money for something non-frivolous.
>
> You're also making assumptions about what things will be worth in
the
> future. I had a lot of stuff that I used to think was worth a lot
> until I tried to sell it and couldn't get anything for it.
>
> Hunter
>
>
>
>
>
_________
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42880 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
.htmlI'd pay more! Check out the marquee!
Tim
--- James < JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> Back then I think it was around $2.50. But $10 is
> not bad. Most places
> are $15 these days.
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat?
Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.
http://tv.yahoo.com/ <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42881 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.html
.html
In a message dated 8/8/2007 3:52:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:
In a message dated 8/8/2007 3:37:07 PM Eastern Standard
Time, stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:
But I know
what you mean...anybody remember Beanie
Babies?
Bruce
Anyone remember
Munchie-chi?
--
Rory
"munchi ci munchichi...soft and sweet and cuddly...."
Bruce Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.<.html
<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42882 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlBrendan,
Right now I'm selling scripts on eBay (not originals of course) and at one time I had all the customers I wanted at 10 bucks each. Now at 5.00 each I can barely give them away. Apparently everyone who wanted these scripts bought them already!
And I've been scooping up original movie and TV photos for a little as 10 bucks each...at one time I couldn't get them for less than 30 dollars!
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: brendan486 <nzape@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 3:54 pm
Subject: [POTA] Re: Digest Number 3722
I have to agree with Hunter here.With a slight caveat. A few things
will increase or hold their prices. An Original One sheet for Planet
Of The Apes for example.Still expensive and in theory, should hold
it's value. But I believe Apes collecting is at a low. Many items
that should fetch a good return, just don't.I sell regularly on ebay
and once had a shop selling Movie and TV Collectables. The supply and
demand, like any product, fluctuates.
Trends also impact. About four or five months ago Ape Jig Saw
puzzles were fetching good prices on ebay.At least the UK puzzles of
the TV show were. Now you can get them for £1.00 or £2.00. Same
happened with the British annuals. The British comics have no value
at all and even the Mego's are going around on ebay or selling low.
Many serious collectors are in their 30's or 40's or older.They have
what they want and the younger fan base is smaller and has much more
to spend their ill gotten pocket money on.
Taking into account the value of money way back compared to todays
purchasing power, I think that Apes stuff (technical term) is at
rock bottom prices. Bargains galore.
IN the 80's something that cost $2.00 would be say $5.00 now, but
you can buy the $2.00 item for $2.50. That is not an increase in
value, but a loss.
Buyers market at the moment.
Brendan.
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
>
> Well I've been collecting APES?movie memorabilia? since 1971...in
those days original B/W 8x10's were 1.50 each and the color lobby
cards were 2.00 each...posters were 5.00 apiece when I bought
them...they' ve gone up quite a bit since then and I believe they
will continue to do so. But I know what you mean...anybody remember
Beanie Babies?
>
> Bruce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@ ...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 8:46 am
> Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3722
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I don't expect them to appreciate the items but they will respect
> > them when they find out what they're worth! I assume they'll
sell the
> > items and hopefully use the money for something non-frivolous.
>
> You're also making assumptions about what things will be worth in
the
> future. I had a lot of stuff that I used to think was worth a lot
> until I tried to sell it and couldn't get anything for it.
>
> Hunter
>
>
>
>
>
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
___
> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's
free from AOL at AOL.com.
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42883 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
.html.html .htmlIn a message dated 8/8/2007 4:00:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:
I'd pay more! Check out the marquee!
Tim
I wonder if the lobby will have an original 1-sheet?
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42884 |
From: James |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
.htmlThanks Tim!

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/spnew
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote: > > I'd pay more! Check out the marquee! > > Tim > > > --- James JamesA1102@... wrote: > > > > > Back then I think it was around $2.50. But $10 is > > not bad. Most places > > are $15 these days. > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? > Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42885 |
From: James |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Introduction |
.htmlWelcome to the group. Please feel free to explore the groups resources.
To answer your question, Milo somehow salvaged Taylor's ship from the lake.
So when did you first become a fan? What was your first exposure to POTA?
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "eltf177" <eltf177@...> wrote: > > I'm a newbie to the group. Been a fan of the movies, TV series and > Cartoon for years. I have the Marvel Magazine series, the Adventure > Comics series and LOVED Revolution on the POTA! I've been getting back > into it lately (bought the TV series and Cartoon on DVD, better than > I'd remembered). > The only big problem I have (which I understand many others do as > well) are the continunity problems, understandable in such a massive > series. For me, the biggest is exactly where did Cornelius, Zira and > Milo get the ship they used in ESCAPE? > Looking forward to lively discussions with fellow fans! >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42886 |
From: James |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlLooks like some of the posters have come down in price too. Someone is selling a Planet and Beneath One-sheets for a very low price.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote: > > Well I've been collecting APES?movie memorabilia?since 1971...in those days original B/W 8x10's were 1.50 each and the color lobby cards were 2.00 each...posters were 5.00 apiece when I bought them...they've gone up quite a bit since then and I believe they will continue to do so. But I know what you mean...anybody remember Beanie Babies? > > Bruce > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hunter Goatley goathunter@... > To: pota@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 8:46 am > Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3722 > > > > > > > > I don't expect them to appreciate the items but they will respect > > them when they find out what they're worth! I assume they'll sell the
> > items and hopefully use the money for something non-frivolous. > > You're also making assumptions about what things will be worth in the > future. I had a lot of stuff that I used to think was worth a lot > until I tried to sell it and couldn't get anything for it. > > Hunter > > > > > ____________> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42887 |
From: brendan486 |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlI'm with you there.I have sold posters and Lobby cards for way less
than they should sell for.Foreign ( depends on perspective but other
than US I mean) posters do not seem as popular as the US or UK
posters, but even the UK Quads for the 4 sequels can be picked up
cheaply. 8 years ago I sold two UK Quads for £75.00 each.An Escape
and a Conquest.Now someone sold an Escape Quad for £25.00, but I
watched it go around on ebay at least twice.The Quad for Conquest
also on offer for £25.00 had no takers.
These are nice large posters and look great framed.I have them
myself.
Apes is still bigger business in the US though compared to the UK.
A good new Ape show would be a great boost.
I still can't get over the Unofficial Apes Collectors Guide pricing
a UK wrapping paper at $250 US when it regularly turns up on ebay
for under £5.00 ($10.00) Or a colouring book at $15.00 when you can
get them at $2.00-$5.00.
Brendan.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
>
> Brendan,
>
> Â Right now I'm selling scripts on eBay (not originals of course)
and at one time I had all the customers I wanted at 10 bucks each.
Now at 5.00 each I can barely give them away. Apparently everyone
who wanted these scripts bought them already!
> Â And I've been scooping up original movie and TV photos for a
little as 10 bucks each...at one time I couldn't get them for less
than 30 dollars!
>
> Bruce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: brendan486 <nzape@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 3:54 pm
> Subject: [POTA] Re: Digest Number 3722
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have to agree with Hunter here.With a slight caveat. A few
things
> will increase or hold their prices. An Original One sheet for
Planet
> Of The Apes for example.Still expensive and in theory, should hold
> it's value. But I believe Apes collecting is at a low. Many items
> that should fetch a good return, just don't.I sell regularly on
ebay
> and once had a shop selling Movie and TV Collectables.The supply
and
> demand, like any product, fluctuates.
> Trends also impact. About four or five months ago Ape Jig Saw
> puzzles were fetching good prices on ebay.At least the UK puzzles
of
> the TV show were. Now you can get them for £1.00 or £2.00. Same
> happened with the British annuals. The British comics have no
value
> at all and even the Mego's are going around on ebay or selling low.
> Many serious collectors are in their 30's or 40's or older.They
have
> what they want and the younger fan base is smaller and has much
more
> to spend their ill gotten pocket money on.
> Taking into account the value of money way back compared to todays
> purchasing power, I think that Apes stuff (technical term) is at
> rock bottom prices. Bargains galore.
> IN the 80's something that cost $2.00 would be say $5.00 now, but
> you can buy the $2.00 item for $2.50. That is not an increase in
> value, but a loss.
> Buyers market at the moment.
> Brendan.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@ wrote:
> >
> > Well I've been collecting APES?movie memorabilia?since 1971...in
> those days original B/W 8x10's were 1.50 each and the color lobby
> cards were 2.00 each...posters were 5.00 apiece when I bought
> them...they've gone up quite a bit since then and I believe they
> will continue to do so. But I know what you mean...anybody
remember
> Beanie Babies?
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@>
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 8:46 am
> > Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3722
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I don't expect them to appreciate the items but they will
respect
> > > them when they find out what they're worth! I assume they'll
> sell the
> > > items and hopefully use the money for something non-frivolous.
> >
> > You're also making assumptions about what things will be worth
in
> the
> > future. I had a lot of stuff that I used to think was worth a lot
> > until I tried to sell it and couldn't get anything for it.
> >
> > Hunter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42888 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlUh-oh....I didn't buy them to re-sell them though anyway. Besides prices on comics and movie memorabilia fluctuate all the time. So I'm safe. I think.
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 5:43 pm
Subject: [POTA] Re: Digest Number 3722
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
>
> Well I've been collecting APES?movie memorabilia? since 1971...in those days original B/W 8x10's were 1.50 each and the color lobby cards were 2.00 each...posters were 5.00 apiece when I bought them...they' ve gone up quite a bit since then and I believe they will continue to do so. But I know what you mean...anybody remember Beanie Babies?
>
> Bruce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunter Goatley goathunter@. ..
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 8:46 am
> Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3722
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I don't expect them to appreciate the items but they will respect
> > them when they find out what they're worth! I assume they'll sell the
> > items and hopefully use the money for something non-frivolous.
>
> You're also making assumptions about what things will be worth in the
> future. I had a lot of stuff that I used to think was worth a lot
> until I tried to sell it and couldn't get anything for it.
>
> Hunter
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ______
> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42889 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlI've been on ebay for about 7 years and in the beginning I was making money hand over foot (what does that expression MEAN?) with whatever I sold. Either the economy is getting worse every year (which it obviously is) or I've run out of anything people want to buy. I've purposely held back selling certain items that I know are worth more than I would probably get for them on eBay rather than take what I can get.
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: brendan486 <nzape@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 6:27 pm
Subject: [POTA] Re: Digest Number 3722
I'm with you there.I have sold posters and Lobby cards for way less
than they should sell for.Foreign ( depends on perspective but other
than US I mean) posters do not seem as popular as the US or UK
posters, but even the UK Quads for the 4 sequels can be picked up
cheaply. 8 years ago I sold two UK Quads for £75.00 each.An Escape
and a Conquest.Now someone sold an Escape Quad for £25.00, but I
watched it go around on ebay at least twice.The Quad for Conquest
also on offer for £25.00 had no takers.
These are nice large posters and look great framed.I have them
myself.
Apes is still bigger business in the US though compared to the UK.
A good new Ape show would be a great boost.
I still can't get over the Unofficial Apes Collectors Guide pricing
a UK wrapping paper at $250 US when it regularly turns up on ebay
for under £5.00 ($10.00) Or a colouring book at $15.00 when you can
get them at $2.00-$5.00.
Brendan.
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
>
>
> Brendan,
>
> Â Right now I'm selling scripts on eBay (not originals of course)
and at one time I had all the customers I wanted at 10 bucks each.
Now at 5.00 each I can barely give them away. Apparently everyone
who wanted these scripts bought them already!
> Â And I've been scooping up original movie and TV photos for a
little as 10 bucks each...at one time I couldn't get them for less
than 30 dollars!
>
> Bruce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: brendan486 <nzape@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 3:54 pm
> Subject: [POTA] Re: Digest Number 3722
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have to agree with Hunter here.With a slight caveat. A few
things
> will increase or hold their prices. An Original One sheet for
Planet
> Of The Apes for example.Still expensive and in theory, should hold
> it's value. But I believe Apes collecting is at a low. Many items
> that should fetch a good return, just don't.I sell regularly on
ebay
> and once had a shop selling Movie and TV Collectables. The supply
and
> demand, like any product, fluctuates.
> Trends also impact. About four or five months ago Ape Jig Saw
> puzzles were fetching good prices on ebay.At least the UK puzzles
of
> the TV show were. Now you can get them for £1.00 or £2.00. Same
> happened with the British annuals. The British comics have no
value
> at all and even the Mego's are going around on ebay or selling low.
> Many serious collectors are in their 30's or 40's or older.They
have
> what they want and the younger fan base is smaller and has much
more
> to spend their ill gotten pocket money on.
> Taking into account the value of money way back compared to todays
> purchasing power, I think that Apes stuff (technical term) is at
> rock bottom prices. Bargains galore.
> IN the 80's something that cost $2.00 would be say $5.00 now, but
> you can buy the $2.00 item for $2.50. That is not an increase in
> value, but a loss.
> Buyers market at the moment.
> Brendan.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ wrote:
> >
> > Well I've been collecting APES?movie memorabilia? since 1971...in
> those days original B/W 8x10's were 1.50 each and the color lobby
> cards were 2.00 each...posters were 5.00 apiece when I bought
> them...they' ve gone up quite a bit since then and I believe they
> will continue to do so. But I know what you mean...anybody
remember
> Beanie Babies?
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@ >
> > To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 8:46 am
> > Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3722
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I don't expect them to appreciate the items but they will
respect
> > > them when they find out what they're worth! I assume they'll
> sell the
> > > items and hopefully use the money for something non-frivolous.
> >
> > You're also making assumptions about what things will be worth
in
> the
> > future. I had a lot of stuff that I used to think was worth a lot
> > until I tried to sell it and couldn't get anything for it.
> >
> > Hunter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42890 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 8/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
.htmlOh, I'd agree that there must have been pre-crash interior stuff shot,
but as far as any exterior shots of the ship taking off, in flight, and
crashing, forget it.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
I think they planned and probably shot interior scenes. Jiust my humble
opinion! John, Scrolls. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42891 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlThe saying is "hand over fist" which means quickly, or in quantity.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> I've been on ebay for about 7 years and in the beginning I was making
money hand over foot (what does that expression MEAN?) <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42892 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
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The one that looks like it was shot in the theater is fake. It's a
clever way to cover up the fact that it looks crappy, but still a waste of
bandwidth.
I'm sure the Iron Man footage will appear somewhere eventually. I've heard
that there's a few You Tube clone sites, but I haven't really bothered looking
for them.
Chris L.
>>You Tube has 2 Dark Knight previews that look legit. One comes from
this link and one looks like someone bootlegged it from inside a theatre. What
gives? Will Iron Man appear anywhere? << <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42893 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.html
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In a message dated 8/8/2007 2:51:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42894 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
.htmlAbsolutely.In fact, it's a good thing they DIDN'T do those shots if the
quality of the models was as poor as in the original Planet--the
sinking of the ship is the one shot from the film that really lets it
down.In my opinion, they could have cut that, saved money, just have
Landon narrate it and focus on Taylor's lack of interest in the fate of
the ship, and have a more powerful scene.But what the hell do I know?!
John, Scrolls.
>
> Oh, I'd agree that there must have been pre-crash interior stuff
shot,
> but as far as any exterior shots of the ship taking off, in flight,
and
> crashing, forget it.
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
>
> I think they planned and probably shot interior scenes. Jiust my
humble
> opinion! John, Scrolls.
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42895 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlThank you...my parents always said 'hand over foot...'
Guess they 'learned' me wrong lol.
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: drhasslein <drhasslein@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 1:12 am
Subject: [POTA] Re: Digest Number 3722
The saying is "hand over fist" which means quickly, or in quantity.
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
>
> I've been on ebay for about 7 years and in the beginning I was making
money hand over foot (what does that expression MEAN?)
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42896 |
From: Zach S |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Escape deleted Scene |
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| Aboro, I had read somewhere--it may have been in the book "Planet of The Apes Revisited" or something--that the scene was filmed but deleted. Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 8/7/2007 8:19:02 PM To:
pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: Escape deleted Scene As far as my saying things of that nature weren't scripted, I stand corrected!
Still, being scripted does NOT equate to it being shot. And the things mentioned in your post were ceratinly out of the budget of ESCAPE, so they were almost certainly not filmed. Plus, what you posted never actually mentions that we see these things happen to the ship. By that I mean they do not say that they will show the ship itself going thru these motions, and it would probably been more of the same as we seen in PLANET, in other words just interior shots/exterior shots yo simulate seeing it.
--- In
pota@yahoogroups. com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote: > > Paul Dehn's Final Screenplay , October 28, 1970, for Escape opens > with 'THE EXPLOSION OF ROCKETS as we watch as it speeds away from > camera'. Then the script describes the astronauts watching the Earth > blow up. Later 'We are crashing rapidly into the ocean' and 'The > spacecraft splits the water into churning waves'.Shortly after, we > see the helicopter.It will be on Hunter's site and is a good read-- > probably what Marvel used for their adaptation, too.John, Scrolls.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42897 |
From: salgood sam |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3725 |
| Group: pota |
Message: 42898 |
From: James |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3725 |
.htmlThanks Sam. I sure our members in the Toronto area will want to stop by. Please feel free to post jpegs of the POTA pages for sale. You can post them here: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Salgood%20Sam/ or just email directly to me and I'll post them.
BTW What's the status of the Revolution trade paperback?
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "salgood sam" <salgood@...> wrote: > > Hey all, how's it hanging? > > Hope this finds you all well. Sorry I don't really speak up much since I was > invited to join the group a while back, when I was drawing part of > revolution on the planet of the apes for mr comics. I don't have all that > much time for keeping up with all it all except for when I'm not working, > which thankfully has not been often as of late. > > But I wanted to take a moment to let you all know that I'll be in Toronto > for TCAF 2007 > > http://www.torontocomics.com/tcaf/ > > and I'll be bringing some of the POTA art with me to sell along with pages > from Sea of Read, and my most recent book. If anyone is interested let me > know and I can post more info here and a set of jpgs of the pages going up
> for sale. > > Cheers! > max > > http://www.salgoodsam.com/ > Check out my new book, and other comics @ > http://www.comicspace.com/salgood_sam/ > > http://www.myspace.com/salgoodsam > http://engine.ning.com/profile/SalgoodSam > http://www.chzero.salgoodsam.com > http://www.spiltink.org/ >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42899 |
From: eltf177 |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Introduction |
.htmlI still remember my father taking me and my brother to the Fort Ord
Movie Theatre in Monterey, CA to see POTA and BENEATH in their
original runs (I think we saw the last three while we were on Guam).
My brother started collecting the Marvel mags on Guam (He stopped
buying them and I spent some 20 years up and down the US East Coast
before finally finishing the set).
I have to agree with Black Echo's website about the improbability of
three apes with no technology being able to raise Taylor's ship,
much less find and refit the blown hatch (I'd forgotten about that
myself). But I can't buy his "Maddox and Brent came in two separate
ships" theory either; the Presidential Commission only mentions two
ships, not three.
I've got my own theory, though...
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Welcome to the group. Please feel free to explore the groups
resources.
>
> To answer your question, Milo somehow salvaged Taylor's ship from
the
> lake.
>
> So when did you first become a fan? What was your first exposure to
> POTA?
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "eltf177" <eltf177@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm a newbie to the group. Been a fan of the movies, TV series
and
> > Cartoon for years. I have the Marvel Magazine series, the
Adventure
> > Comics series and LOVED Revolution on the POTA! I've been
getting back
> > into it lately (bought the TV series and Cartoon on DVD, better
than
> > I'd remembered).
> > The only big problem I have (which I understand many others do as
> > well) are the continunity problems, understandable in such a
massive
> > series. For me, the biggest is exactly where did Cornelius, Zira
and
> > Milo get the ship they used in ESCAPE?
> > Looking forward to lively discussions with fellow fans!
> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42900 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.html.html .htmlIn a message dated 8/8/2007 5:56:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:
Looks like some of the posters have come down in price too. Someone is selling a Planet and Beneath One-sheets for a very low price.
Those are reproductions. The thing that gives that away is when he says "They were never folded." One-sheet posters from the era of PLANET and BENEATH were machine folded at the printers. The National Screen Service didn't start putting out rolled posters until, I believe, the late seventies or early eighties.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42901 |
From: brendan486 |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.html>
> Those are reproductions. The thing that gives that away is when he
says
> "They were never folded." One-sheet posters from the era of PLANET
and BENEATH
> were machine folded at the printers. The National Screen Service
didn't start
> putting out rolled posters until, I believe, the late seventies or
early
> eighties.
>
> -- Rory
Very handy tip, Rory.
Full marks to the seller as well, since he clearly states in his
description he is unsure they are original.
Brendan. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42902 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlPlus he says there's no markings on the back. Official posters always had the blue stamp on the back with the film title and release number.
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 11:44 am
Subject: [POTA] Re: Digest Number 3722
In a message dated 8/8/2007 5:56:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, JamesA1102@aol. com writes:
Looks like some of the posters have come down in price too. Someone is selling a Planet and Beneath One-sheets for a very low price.
Those are reproductions. The thing that gives that away is when he says "They were never folded." One-sheet posters from the era of PLANET and BENEATH were machine folded at the printers. The National Screen Service didn't start putting out rolled posters until, I believe, the late seventies or early eighties.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42903 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.html.html .htmlIn a message dated 8/9/2007 3:42:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, stenosaurus@... writes:
Plus he says there's no markings on the back. Official posters always had the blue stamp on the back with the film title and release number.
Bruce
Yeah, those posters are the repros someone, maybe Fox Video, had made up when the 30th Anniversary videos were released back in 1998. They were distributed to the video stores and such.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42904 |
From: James |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Introduction |
.htmlWe'd love to hear it.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "eltf177" <eltf177@...> wrote: > > I've got my own theory, though... >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42905 |
From: Shane Miller |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Introduction |
.htmlCould that ship possibly have had some kind of 'self repair' or 'homing mechanism' of some kind that would have enabled it to get to dry land some how? The first ship was not damaged that much, it just took on water and sank, Brent's was pretty much wasted. I don't know, just spit-balling... eltf177 <eltf177@...> wrote: I still remember my father taking me and my brother to the Fort Ord Movie Theatre in Monterey, CA to see POTA and BENEATH in their original runs (I think we saw the last three while
we were on Guam). My brother started collecting the Marvel mags on Guam (He stopped buying them and I spent some 20 years up and down the US East Coast before finally finishing the set). I have to agree with Black Echo's website about the improbability of three apes with no technology being able to raise Taylor's ship, much less find and refit the blown hatch (I'd forgotten about that myself). But I can't buy his "Maddox and Brent came in two separate ships" theory either; the Presidential Commission only mentions two ships, not three. I've got my own theory, though... --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "James" <JamesA1102@ ...> wrote: > > > Welcome to the group. Please feel free to explore the groups resources. > > To answer your question, Milo somehow salvaged Taylor's ship from
the > lake. > > So when did you first
become a fan? What was your first exposure to > POTA? > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "eltf177" <eltf177@> wrote: > > > > I'm a newbie to the group. Been a fan of the movies, TV series and > > Cartoon for years. I have the Marvel Magazine series, the Adventure > > Comics series and LOVED Revolution on the POTA! I've been getting back > > into it lately (bought the TV series and Cartoon on DVD, better than > > I'd remembered). > > The only big problem I have (which I understand many others do as > > well) are the continunity problems, understandable in such a massive > > series. For me, the biggest is exactly where did Cornelius, Zira and > > Milo get the ship they used in ESCAPE?
> > Looking forward to lively discussions with fellow fans! >
> >
Luggage? GPS? Comic books?
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42906 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Introduction |
.htmlThere could have been an earthquake,
a very dry season - so the lake dried up OR... and this is my own theory
- the mutants with all their mental powers could have raised it (ala Yoda).
|
| Shane Miller <masonverger12@...>
Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com
10/08/2007 09:19 a.m.
Please respond to pota
|
To:
pota@yahoogroups.com
cc:
Subject:
Re: [POTA] Re: Introduction |
Could that ship possibly have had some kind of 'self repair'
or 'homing mechanism' of some kind that would have enabled it to get to
dry land some how? The first ship was not damaged that much, it just
took on water and sank, Brent's was pretty much wasted. I don't know,
just spit-balling...
eltf177 <eltf177@...> wrote:
I still remember my father taking me and my brother to
the Fort Ord
Movie Theatre in Monterey, CA to see POTA and BENEATH in their
original runs (I think we saw the last three while we were on Guam).
My brother started collecting the Marvel mags on Guam (He stopped
buying them and I spent some 20 years up and down the US East Coast
before finally finishing the set).
I have to agree with Black Echo's website about the improbability of
three apes with no technology being able to raise Taylor's ship,
much less find and refit the blown hatch (I'd forgotten about that
myself). But I can't buy his "Maddox and Brent came in two separate
ships" theory either; the Presidential Commission only mentions two
ships, not three.
I've got my own theory, though...
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com,
"James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Welcome to the group. Please feel free to explore the groups
resources.
>
> To answer your question, Milo somehow salvaged Taylor's ship from
the
> lake.
>
> So when did you first become a fan? What was your first exposure to
> POTA?
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com,
"eltf177" <eltf177@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm a newbie to the group. Been a fan of the movies, TV series
and
> > Cartoon for years. I have the Marvel Magazine series, the
Adventure
> > Comics series and LOVED Revolution on the POTA! I've been
getting back
> > into it lately (bought the TV series and Cartoon on DVD, better
than
> > I'd remembered).
> > The only big problem I have (which I understand many others do
as
> > well) are the continunity problems, understandable in such a
massive
> > series. For me, the biggest is exactly where did Cornelius, Zira
and
> > Milo get the ship they used in ESCAPE?
> > Looking forward to lively discussions with fellow fans!
> >
>
Luggage? GPS? Comic books?
Check out fitting gifts
for grads at Yahoo! Search.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42907 |
From: Zach S |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Introduction |
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| Hi. My name is Zach. Glad to meet you. I too have been a staunch APES fanatic since 1968 when the first classic movie was released. I also have the Marvels, the Adventures, the Revolutions...in addition to all five movies on DVD, the cartoon series and the TV series...you'll find there's a lot to talk about within our group! As far as the third ship is concerned--and there's been plenty of discussion on that topic--I suggest you check out Christopher Shields' ANSANUAT website. He has some fantastic material that I know you would enjoy. Anyway, welcome to this great group!
Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 08/08/07 12:14:29 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Introduction I'm a newbie to the group. Been a fan of the movies, TV series and Cartoon for years. I have the Marvel Magazine series, the Adventure
Comics series and LOVED Revolution on the POTA! I've been getting back into it lately (bought the TV series and Cartoon on DVD, better than I'd remembered). The only big problem I have (which I understand many others do as well) are the continunity problems, understandable in such a massive series. For me, the biggest is exactly where did Cornelius, Zira and Milo get the ship they used in ESCAPE? Looking forward to lively discussions with fellow fans!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42908 |
From: Zach S |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
.html.html
| When you can, could you please resend this to me at my e-mail addy: All I received was a blank box! Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 8/8/2007 3:53:12 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature Thanks Tim! ![http://f9g.yahoofs.com/groups/g_hr_1226848/ae08/__hr_/5d5b.jpg?grIZmuGB9IcPUU27]() http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ pota/spnew
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote: > > I'd pay more! Check out the marquee! > > Tim > > > --- James JamesA1102@. .. wrote: > > >
> > Back then I think it was around $2.50. But $10 is > > not bad. Most places > > are $15 these days. > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ Ready for the edge of your seat? > Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo. com/ >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42909 |
From: David Giwner |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlME to. NYC DAVE...
LordTZer0@... wrote: In a message dated 8/8/2007 2:51:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@aol. com writes: Anyone remember Munchie-chi?
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42910 |
From: Zach S |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Introduction |
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| Please pardon my spelling error. That should have read "ANSANAUT". Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 8/9/2007 5:51:04 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [POTA] Introduction Hi. My name is Zach. Glad to meet you. I too have been a staunch APES fanatic since 1968 when the first classic movie was released. I also have the Marvels, the Adventures, the Revolutions. ..in addition to all five movies on DVD, the cartoon series and the TV series...you' ll find there's a lot to talk about within our group! As far as the third ship is concerned--and there's been plenty of discussion on that topic--I suggest you check out Christopher Shields' ANSANUAT website. He has some fantastic material that I know you would enjoy. Anyway, welcome to this great group! Zach
-------Original Message----- -- Date: 08/08/07 12:14:29 Subject: [POTA] Introduction I'm a newbie to the group. Been a fan of the movies, TV series and Cartoon for years. I have the Marvel Magazine series, the Adventure Comics series and LOVED Revolution on the POTA! I've been getting back
into it lately (bought the TV series and Cartoon on DVD, better than I'd remembered). The only big problem I have (which I understand many others do as well) are the continunity problems, understandable in such a massive series. For me, the biggest is exactly where did Cornelius, Zira and Milo get the ship they used in ESCAPE? Looking forward to lively discussions with fellow fans!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42911 |
From: James |
Date: 8/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
.htmlSeveral people have had this happen. Damn Yahoo!
Here's a link to the pic: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/spnew
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zach S" <Zasco1957@...> wrote: > > When you can, could you please resend this to me at my e-mail addy: > > > > zasco1957@... > > > > All I received was a blank box! > > > > Zach > > >
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Message: 42912 |
From: Zach S |
Date: 8/10/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
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| Thanks, I appreciate that! Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 08/09/07 19:04:53 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject:
[POTA] Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature Several people have had this happen. Damn Yahoo! Here's a link to the pic: http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ pota/spnew
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Zach S" <Zasco1957@.. .> wrote: > > When you can, could you please resend this to me at my e-mail addy: > > > > zasco1957@.. . > > > > All I received was a blank box! > > > > Zach > > >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42913 |
From: James |
Date: 8/10/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Introduction |
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I've always had my own personal theory for how Dr. Milo was able to find and fly Taylor's ship:
- When the ship lost power while sinking in the lake at the beginning of Planet, the ship was going into a safety shut down mode to protect its systems.
- The ship didn't sink to the bottom of the lake, underwater currents carried the ship to a sand bar close to shore.
- Later, during a period of low tide Milo discovered the now dried out ship.
- While exploring the ship, Milo found the flight manuals and mission checklists. By studying them he was able to learn basic operations of the ship. (Remember, most of the systems were computer automated.)
- During he last trip from Ape City to the ship Milo discovered Brent's ship and retrieved the missing or damaged components of Taylor's ship, including the hatch.
It is still a leap of logic but this is how I can rationalize it.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote: > > There could have been an earthquake, a very dry season - so the lake dried > up OR... and this is my own theory - the mutants with all their mental > powers could have raised it (ala Yoda). > >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42914 |
From: James |
Date: 8/10/2007 |
| Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver??? |
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Due to the bad weather in the Northeast today, the Lawgiver's flight home has been delayed. Right now our favorite Simian Philosopher is sitting on the tarmac at the Atlanta airport, cursing the pilots and making himself a general nuisance to the flight attendants. So, unfortunately, there won't be a new LESSON this week other than don't trust the damn airlines.
However, there is some good news. There are several new additions/improvements to the Group Website in the One Sheets section. A Beneath Half Sheet has been added to the Beneath page and the Planet,
Conquest & Battle pages now includes larger versions of those film's Half Sheets. Also, the Beneath page now features an improved version of the Planet/Beneath Combo One Sheet. (Just in time for the tonight's showing at the Aero Theater in Santa Monica.)
The Group Website can be accessed by clicking the banner on the Group's Yahoo Home Page. Anyone that has a problem accessing it here can visit the Mirror site .
Have a great weekend everybody!
Visit all the Group's special features including:
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42915 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/10/2007 |
| Subject: POTA Double Feature |
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If I show up I'll be in a black "Go Ape"
T-shirt. Don't confuse me with Brad Pitt. Jeff
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42916 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/10/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver??? |
.htmlWhat size is the rust-colored poster of Marcus from PLANET?
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 2:02 pm
Subject: [POTA] Lesson from the Lawgiver???
Due to the bad weather in the Northeast today, the Lawgiver's flight home has been delayed. Right now our favorite Simian Philosopher is sitting on the tarmac at the Atlanta airport, cursing the pilots and making himself a general nuisance to the flight attendants. So, unfortunately, there won't be a new LESSON this week other than don't trust the damn airlines.
However, there is some good news. There are several new additions/improveme nts to the Group Website in the One Sheets section. A Beneath Half Sheet has been added to the Beneath page and the Planet,
Conquest & Battle pages now includes larger versions of those film's Half Sheets. Also, the Beneath page now features an improved version of the Planet/Beneath Combo One Sheet. (Just in time for the tonight's showing at the Aero Theater in Santa Monica.)
Have a great weekend everybody!
Visit all the Group's special features including:
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42917 |
From: James |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver??? |
.htmlI really have no idea. All I have is the scan not the original poster. I think Rory owns the poster and sent me the pic of it.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote: > > What size is the rust-colored poster of Marcus from PLANET? > > Bruce > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James JamesA1102@... > To: pota@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 2:02 pm > Subject: [POTA] Lesson from the Lawgiver??? > > > > > > > > > Due to the bad weather in the Northeast today, the Lawgiver's flight home has been delayed. Right now our favorite Simian?Philosopher is sitting on the tarmac at the Atlanta airport, cursing the pilots and making himself a general nuisance to the flight attendants. So, unfortunately, there won't be a new LESSON this week other than don't trust the damn airlines. >
> However, there is some good news. There are several new additions/improvements to the Group Website?in the One Sheets?section. A Beneath Half Sheet has been added to the Beneath?page and the Planet, Conquest?& Battle?pages now includes larger versions of those film's?Half Sheets. Also, the Beneath?page?now features an improved version of the Planet/Beneath Combo One Sheet. (Just in time for the tonight's showing?at the Aero Theater in Santa Monica.) > > The Group Website can be accessed by clicking the banner on the Group's Yahoo Home Page. Anyone that has a problem accessing it here can visit the Mirror site?.? > > > >
> Due to the bad weather in the Northeast today, the Lawgiver's flight home has been delayed. Right now our favorite Simian?Philosopher is sitting on the tarmac at the Atlanta airport, cursing the pilots and making himself a general nuisance to the flight attendants. So, unfortunately, there won't be a new LESSON this week other than don't trust the damn airlines. > > However, there is some good news. There are several new additions/improvements to the Group Website?in the One Sheets?section. A Beneath Half Sheet has been added to the Beneath?page and the Planet, Conquest?& Battle?pages now includes larger versions of those film's?Half Sheets. Also, the Beneath?page?now features an improved version of the Planet/Beneath Combo One Sheet. (Just in time for the tonight's showing?at the Aero Theater in Santa Monica.) >
> The Group Website can be accessed by clicking the banner on the Group's Yahoo Home Page. Anyone that has a problem accessing it here can visit the Mirror site?.? > > > Have a great weekend everybody! > > Visit all the Group's special features including: > > > POTA Locations? - The places where the POTA films were shot. > > The Art Gallery? - Works of POTA Art by our members. > > The Database Section? - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics. > > The Photos Section? - POTA pics contributed by members. > > > > > > > ____________> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42918 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
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It may seem that POTA items dont have the value
they should but that is the case for everything
Up until 10 yrs ago everybody had to pay full
retail price to buy collectibles through stores and mail order
but ebay has made all items so easily available
that people simply do not and will not pay guide prices anymore
so its really knocked everything back
50-70%
only if a couple bidders find an item at the same
time will there potentially be a bidding war to drive prices up
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 1:54
PM
Subject: [POTA] Re: Digest Number
3722
I have to agree with Hunter here.With a slight caveat. A few things
will increase or hold their prices. An Original One sheet for Planet
Of The Apes for example.Still expensive and in theory, should hold
it's value. But I believe Apes collecting is at a low. Many items that
should fetch a good return, just don't.I sell regularly on ebay and once
had a shop selling Movie and TV Collectables. The supply and demand,
like any product, fluctuates. Trends also impact. About four or five
months ago Ape Jig Saw puzzles were fetching good prices on ebay.At least
the UK puzzles of the TV show were. Now you can get them for £1.00 or
£2.00. Same happened with the British annuals. The British comics have no
value at all and even the Mego's are going around on ebay or selling
low. Many serious collectors are in their 30's or 40's or older.They have
what they want and the younger fan base is smaller and has much more
to spend their ill gotten pocket money on. Taking into account the
value of money way back compared to todays purchasing power, I think that
Apes stuff (technical term) is at rock bottom prices. Bargains
galore. IN the 80's something that cost $2.00 would be say $5.00 now, but
you can buy the $2.00 item for $2.50. That is not an increase in
value, but a loss. Buyers market at the moment. Brendan.
---
In pota@yahoogroups. com,
stenosaurus@ ... wrote: > > Well I've been collecting
APES?movie memorabilia? since 1971...in those days original B/W 8x10's
were 1.50 each and the color lobby cards were 2.00 each...posters were
5.00 apiece when I bought them...they' ve gone up quite a bit since
then and I believe they will continue to do so. But I know what you
mean...anybody remember Beanie Babies? > > Bruce >
> > -----Original Message----- > From: Hunter Goatley
<goathunter@ ...> > To: pota@yahoogroups. com >
Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 8:46 am > Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number
3722 > > > > > > > > I
don't expect them to appreciate the items but they will respect > >
them when they find out what they're worth! I assume they'll sell
the > > items and hopefully use the money for something
non-frivolous. > > You're also making assumptions about what
things will be worth in the > future. I had a lot of stuff that I
used to think was worth a lot > until I tried to sell it and couldn't
get anything for it. > > Hunter > > >
> >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42919 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver??? |
.htmlRory? Is that a 27x41? It looks like it.
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 1:54 am
Subject: [POTA] Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver???
I really have no idea. All I have is the scan not the original poster. I think Rory owns the poster and sent me the pic of it.
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
>
> What size is the rust-colored poster of Marcus from PLANET?
>
> Bruce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James JamesA1102@. ..
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 2:02 pm
> Subject: [POTA] Lesson from the Lawgiver???
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>
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>
> Due to the bad weather in the Northeast today, the Lawgiver's flight home has been delayed. Right now our favorite Simian?Philosopher is sitting on the tarmac at the Atlanta airport, cursing the pilots and making himself a general nuisance to the flight attendants. So, unfortunately, there won't be a new LESSON this week other than don't trust the damn airlines.
>
> However, there is some good news. There are several new additions/improveme nts to the Group Website?in the One Sheets?section. A Beneath Half Sheet has been added to the Beneath?page and the Planet, Conquest?& Battle?pages now includes larger versions of those film's?Half Sheets. Also, the Beneath?page? now features an improved version of the Planet/Beneath Combo One Sheet. (Just in time for the tonight's showing?at the Aero Theater in Santa Monica.)
>
> The Group Website can be accessed by clicking the banner on the Group's Yahoo Home Page. Anyone that has a problem accessing it here can visit the Mirror site?.?
>
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>
> Due to the bad weather in the Northeast today, the Lawgiver's flight home has been delayed. Right now our favorite Simian?Philosopher is sitting on the tarmac at the Atlanta airport, cursing the pilots and making himself a general nuisance to the flight attendants. So, unfortunately, there won't be a new LESSON this week other than don't trust the damn airlines.
>
> However, there is some good news. There are several new additions/impro! veme nts to the Group Website?in the One Sheets?section. A Beneath Half Sheet has been added to the Beneath?page and the Planet, Conquest?& Battle?pages now includes larger versions of those film's?Half Sheets. Also, the Beneath?page? now features an improved version of the Planet/Beneath Combo One Sheet. (Just in time for the tonight's showing?at the Aero Theater in Santa Monica.)
>
> The Group Website can be accessed by clicking the banner on the Group's Yahoo Home Page. Anyone that has a problem accessing it here can visit the Mirror site?.?
>
>
> Have a great weekend everybody!
>
> Visit all the Group's special features including:
>
>
> POTA Locations? - The places where the POTA films were shot.
>
> The Art Gallery? - Works of POTA Art by our members.
>
> The Database Section? - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.
>
> The Photos Section? - POTA pics contributed by members.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ______
> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42920 |
From: eltf177 |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: My Third Ship Theory |
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.html First, sorry about using my screen name. Real name's Jeff, as I see
others I'll use Jeff177. Glad to meet you all.
Here's my third ship theory for ESCAPE. It's long, complex and very
conspiritorial but it seems to fit the known facts. I'll post in
several parts due to length...
My Interpretation of Ships Seen in POTA, BENEATH and ESCAPE
This is my theory as to what ship Cornelius, Zira and Milo
used in ESCAPE FROM THE POTA. I've bounced this off several other
fans who helped me add to and refine it. It tries to answer every
possible question but it's rather complicated and conspiratorial.
I'm sure many fans won't like it, but this does try to explain
exactly what happened.
The following timeline comes from Jim Whitmore's article
OUTLINES OF TOMORROW: A CHRONOLOGY OF THE POTA which appeared in
Marvel Comics POTA Magazine #11 (augmented with material from The
Hasslein Curve timeline).
1972
February: Astronauts Taylor, Dodge, Stewart, and Landon are launched
on the first Interstellar Exploration flight.
May: All contact is lost with Taylor's ship. The ship is listed as
lost and the crew given a state funeral. Privately, hope is
maintained that the crew is still alive.
November: Astronauts "Skipper" Maddox and Brent are launched along
the same flight path as Taylor's vessel to probe its unexplained
disappearance from detection.
1973
April: Taylor's ship reappears mysteriously within nearby space. It
lands off the California coast slightly north of San Clemente and is
met by mobilized U.S. Navy Spaceflight Recovery crew. Capsule is
found to be piloted by Drs. Cornelius, Zira and Milo. Events of
ESCAPE FROM THE POTA begin.
*=*=*
As we saw in POTA Taylor's ship sank in a large lake
somewhere off the remains of New York City. The dorsal hatch was
blown off prior to the ship sinking. I find it inconceivable that
three apes with at best a raft could raise and repair the ship. A
theory that the ship washed ashore and was sealed against water
damage is very interesting but seems highly unlikely to me.
As we saw in BENEATH "Skipper" and Brent's ship crashed in a
man-made dessert again somewhere near the remains of New York City.
The external damage was observed to be quite severe and it seems
highly unlikely that the ship could fly again (if it could fly Brent
almost certainly would have risked it rather than remain on an earth
populated by hostile apes).
The ship appearing in ESCAPE is obviously not Taylor's, we
never saw the inside of Brent's. Black Echo's website ANSANAUT
claims that "Skipper" and Brent arrived in two separate 3-man
ships; "Skipper's" crashing and Brent's being found by Cornelius,
Zira and Milo. It's an interesting theory but I just can't buy that
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42921 |
From: Shane Miller |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3722 |
.htmlThe truth of the matter is, those of us that are
'real' collectors just have to wait out all of the
'trends and fads.' I know that it is a matter of
patience and persistence until I find the item that I
want in the condition that I want. I am still looking
for 3 blister card figures to complete my Mego apes
collection.
--- Terry Hoknes < hoknescards@...> wrote:
> It may seem that POTA items dont have the value they
> should but that is the case for everything
> Up until 10 yrs ago everybody had to pay full retail
> price to buy collectibles through stores and mail
> order
> but ebay has made all items so easily available that
> people simply do not and will not pay guide prices
> anymore
> so its really knocked everything back 50-70%
> only if a couple bidders find an item at the same
> time will there potentially be a bidding war to
> drive prices up
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: brendan486
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 1:54 PM
> Subject: [POTA] Re: Digest Number 3722
>
>
> I have to agree with Hunter here.With a slight
> caveat. A few things
> will increase or hold their prices. An Original
> One sheet for Planet
> Of The Apes for example.Still expensive and in
> theory, should hold
> it's value. But I believe Apes collecting is at a
> low. Many items
> that should fetch a good return, just don't.I sell
> regularly on ebay
> and once had a shop selling Movie and TV
> Collectables.The supply and
> demand, like any product, fluctuates.
> Trends also impact. About four or five months ago
> Ape Jig Saw
> puzzles were fetching good prices on ebay.At least
> the UK puzzles of
> the TV show were. Now you can get them for £1.00
> or £2.00. Same
> happened with the British annuals. The British
> comics have no value
> at all and even the Mego's are going around on
> ebay or selling low.
> Many serious collectors are in their 30's or 40's
> or older.They have
> what they want and the younger fan base is smaller
> and has much more
> to spend their ill gotten pocket money on.
> Taking into account the value of money way back
> compared to todays
> purchasing power, I think that Apes stuff
> (technical term) is at
> rock bottom prices. Bargains galore.
> IN the 80's something that cost $2.00 would be say
> $5.00 now, but
> you can buy the $2.00 item for $2.50. That is not
> an increase in
> value, but a loss.
> Buyers market at the moment.
> Brendan.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@...
> wrote:
> >
> > Well I've been collecting APES?movie
> memorabilia?since 1971...in
> those days original B/W 8x10's were 1.50 each and
> the color lobby
> cards were 2.00 each...posters were 5.00 apiece
> when I bought
> them...they've gone up quite a bit since then and
> I believe they
> will continue to do so. But I know what you
> mean...anybody remember
> Beanie Babies?
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 8:46 am
> > Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3722
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I don't expect them to appreciate the items
> but they will respect
> > > them when they find out what they're worth! I
> assume they'll
> sell the
> > > items and hopefully use the money for
> something non-frivolous.
> >
> > You're also making assumptions about what things
> will be worth in
> the
> > future. I had a lot of stuff that I used to
> think was worth a lot
> > until I tried to sell it and couldn't get
> anything for it.
> >
> > Hunter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42922 |
From: eltf177 |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Third Ship Part 2 |
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When Taylor's ship Icarus disappears a rescue mission is
mobilized (ignore Taylor's talk of colonization, this was a recon
mission pure and simple), but even this takes six months. This ship
(unofficially dubbed Rescue One) follows the same flight path as
Taylor's and disappears in the same area of space.
At this point Dr. Otto Hasslein is intrigued. Very little
telemetry was received from Icarus prior to its disappearance but
data sent by Rescue One just before its disappearance provides
Hasslein proof of his theory.
At this point a secret closed conference is called by ANSA
officials and a few chosen others. Hasslein wants to send another
ship with more and better sensors to record the phenomena. Others
want to send a second rescue ship; the consensus is that Taylor's
ship almost certainly crashed and Maddox's may very well have
suffered the same fate. However, the number one question is: will
the President authorize another costly (and quite possibly
unsuccessful) rescue mission? The committee decides to send another
ship, but without informing the President or receiving authorization
for the flight. This ship will be unmanned with extra on-board
flight recorders and will carry two large external packs with
additional sensors and communications equipment to relay precise
data back to earth. The ship also has a secondary mission, to land
and provide a way home for the six missing astronauts (making the
not unreasonable assumption their ships are no longer functional).
This third ship (dubbed Icarus II) is a prototype of a new
design; externally similar but with an improved drive, additional
shielding and its on-board computer uploaded with data from Icarus
and Rescue One. There are six seats, three front and three rear
(there's no need for hibernation chambers as the ship will
immediately return to Earth). The new equipment and software will
(hopefully) allow Icarus II to withstand the Hasslein curve, survive
a landing and safely return via the curve. The ship has pre-
programmed instructions to wait 30 days after landing. If not
activated by that time it will take off and return to earth using
data from the entry point. It is calculated Icarus II will reappear
some 10-14 Earth days after entering the Hasslein curve.
Icarus II is secretly launched in January 1973, the cover is
that of a replacement military satellite (`which unfortunately
collides with space junk soon after and is lost'). Much data is
received by ANSA before it disappears in the same area Icarus and
Rescue One did. Hasslein and other scientists eagerly study the
data, which provides information which is used in designing even
more powerful engines and for programming the on-board computers of
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42923 |
From: eltf177 |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Third Ship Part 3 |
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However, Icarus II doesn't quite have the same entry
trajectory as Icarus and Rescue One, thus instead of appearing two
months after Rescue One (at which point Earth no longer exists), it
actually appears in orbit some 12 hours BEFORE Rescue One. Icarus II
starts to follow its pre-programmed instructions, listening for
homing signals from Icarus and Rescue One. It receives nothing;
Icarus is no longer transmitting as every system in the ship shorted
out when it flooded and sank while Rescue One is still approaching
Earth and thus is not even transmitting. Icarus II then goes to
secondary programming; assuming this is the area both Icarus and
Rescue One ended up in (within a 50 mile radius) it makes the
nighttime landing it is programmed to do. Icarus II jettisons a
plume of fuel which is ignited, lighting up the sky, and drops
hundreds of flares of various colors. This is seen by the apes but
it interpreted as more of the same hallucinations being sent by
Mendez and the mutants (I assume the mutants were using long-range
telepathy to try and dissuade the apes from invading. It didn't work
as the apes lacked the higher brain functions of humans). Icarus II
lands safely some 22 miles east of Ape City in the Forbidden Zone,
on the opposite side of a large wood and near the Atlantic Ocean.
Normally the apes would send out a scout party but, with the
army ready to march, no one is available. Cornelius, Zira and Milo
see the landing and decide to investigate. There are few pickets to
avoid and Dr. Zaius is too busy to try and stop them.
The three chimpanzee's march in the general direction of the
light show and, just before daybreak, stumble upon Icarus II. All
three are in awe, but eventually Cornelius and Zira identify it as
something similar to what Taylor had described to them (I'm assuming
that, during their long conversation on paper, Taylor made a drawing
of the ship and described very roughly how it worked, including the
use of spacesuits).
The trio of chimpanzee's enter the ship. As this is a new
design unknown to the two missing crews a large number of flight
manuals are aboard. These mostly use pictures and drawings rather
than written words to describe ship functions as it was felt that
the astronauts would not have time to read and memorize text. Milo
and Cornelius study these manuals; written simply the genius Dr.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42924 |
From: eltf177 |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Third Ship Part 4 |
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Zira realizes they will probably be here for some time. Not
wanting to be stuck with nothing but the clothes on her back she
sneaks back into Ape City and packs a bag with some extra clothing,
a few other items and as much fruit as she can find. She quickly
returns to Icarus II.
By this time Milo has pretty much figured out how the ship
works. He and Cornelius are eager to try and launch the ship. Zira
protests at first, but finally agrees. The three get into spacesuits
and Milo presses the `launch' button.
Icarus II takes off and enters a high orbit. The three
chimpanzees are unaware of G-forces and are quickly rendered
unconscious. Following its pre-programmed instructions Icarus II
heads away from Earth to re-enter the Hasslein curve that brought it
here.
The ape-onauts wake and Milo tries to get the ship to return
to the planet. He is frustrated by two problems. The first is that
Icarus II is not programmed to return to the planet but to instead
re-enter the Hasslein curve and return home; Milo would have to
override the ship's computer and take manual control, something he
doesn't know how to do. The even bigger problem soon rears its ugly
head; the planet below them melts, explodes and ceases to exist.
They are lucky, Icarus II is far enough away from earth and
close enough to the Hasslein curve that it isn't destroyed by the
blast. However, Icarus II is knocked slightly off trajectory just
prior to insertion. This means that, instead of reappearing some 10-
14 days after first entering the Hasslein curve, it appears some 5½
months later. During this time Icarus II has been assumed to have
been lost along with Taylor's Icarus and Maddox's Rescue One. As
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42925 |
From: eltf177 |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Third Ship Part 5 |
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The reappearance of Icarus II catches ANSA totally off
guard. The US Navy mobilizes and recovers the ship; luckily no one
involved with the rescue operation had anything to do with the
original Icarus, thus no one can say `hey, this ISN'T the Icarus!'
And the identification of Icarus II as Taylor's Icarus? Remember,
this was a black operation (unauthorized and un-acknowledged);
Icarus II was roughly the same size and shape as Icarus and more
importantly was sending out the same transponder (identification)
signal as Icarus as cover. All this naturally led everyone to
believe (incorrectly) that Icarus II was actually the original
Icarus. You can safely assume that when ANSA got the capsule back it
made damn sure anybody who had seen the original Icarus never got
within a hundred miles of Icarus II. In fact, Icarus II was probably
destroyed soon afterwards to avoid any chance of the deception being
discovered.
Hasslein and other scientists eagerly study the flight
recording data, which provide here-to-fore unknown details of the
ship's journey. Again, this information will be used to design new
engines and program the next generation of ship computers.
For a second time ANSA gets lucky. Before anyone can ask any
embarrassing questions about Icarus II Cornelius and Zira state that
they met Taylor, this reinforces public belief that Icarus II is
actually the original Icarus. All data dealing with Icarus II is
purged; all records now indicate that Cornelius, Zira and Milo
returned in the original Icarus originally piloted by Col. Taylor
and his lost crew.
And in my opinion the ship carried a fourth passenger; the
Plague From Space. It's my belief that Cornelius, Zira and Milo
brought it back with them in a dormant form. Some nine years later
in 1982 it mutated into the virulent strain that killed the world's
dogs and cats, possibly even being activated/mutated by another
disease brought back around that very same time by another astronaut.
*=*=*
And there you have it, my version of who's ship the ape-
onauts used in ESCAPE. As I said, it's quite complicated and
conspiratorial but it does answer most questions.
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Message: 42926 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: POTA Double Feature |
.html
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I don't see any other review of this so I
might as well, in the words of the oppressive humans, "TALK!". I admit I was not
particularly interested in this because of the distance and I've seen POTA on
the big screen in excellent prints so many times. But I went and it was worth
it. POTA looked great as always but the good news is "Beneath" looked fantastic.
These movies look like they were made today. I'd love to see the other 3 now
that they have these great prints from the DVDs. Watching "Beneath" with all
it's unique visuals was just incredible. The army marching, the ruined New York,
Linda Harrison's tan, it looked like a blown up DVD. But it's film, baby. Of
course the masks in the speech scene looked that much worse. Remember "Point
Break", the presidents masks? That's what it reminded me of. They looked like
"happy faces". Those kind of mistakes would probably be a minus in a wide
release for the 40th anniversary but it would be great if Fox could do a limited
"Go Ape" release for film buffs.
Also on the bill was Eric Greene introducing
the films and doing a Q & A with Bill Creber. Some of the things he
mentioned that stick out, he was talking about how small the budget was on
"Beneath" and how they had to reuse what they could find. The tube that Brent
and Nova walk through, the tunnel? Roddy dies in that in "The Poseidon
Adventure". He mentioned some of the mistakes that stick out for him in
"Planet", like tracks in the sand from previous takes, or how set-like the sets
look to him, especially the interior of the cave. If they did it today they
would have backlit it more because the sun is coming from the opening. He said
he wanted moodier lighting to disguise that it's Earth. But the studio wanted
standard lighting for "safety". Can't have an image no one can see.
Maybe the most interesting thing about this
screening was how young the crowd was, they looked about college age. There were
people of all ages but most were young. They seemed to eventually get into the
movie but they laughed at Heston more than I've ever heard an audience before.
Another point for the "camp classic" group. But they did seem to like the movie
and respect it.
The theater seemed about half full, maybe a
little more and then about half left before "Beneath". The ones that stayed
seemed into "Beneath" with all it's faults and applauded when the villain (Don
Pedro Colley) died.
I also got to meet Tim P. (tim "ape fan")
from North Carolina and that was great. He told me his adventures visiting the
locations this week and he couldn't ask for a better conclusion than to see
those locations on the big screen. I don't know if anyone else from these groups
was there.
I won tickets to see the Doors (aka Riders
on the Storm) tonight so it's a great weekend. This is Jeff reporting from La La
Land.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42927 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver??? |
.html.html .htmlIn a message dated 8/10/2007 2:09:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:
A Beneath Half Sheet has been added to the Beneath page and the Planet, Conquest & Battle pages now includes larger versions of those film's Half Sheets.
I have all those, including ESCAPE's. I actually think Half Sheets are nicer to display in the home because 1-sheets make the place a little too theatre lobby-ish, and anything bigger than that, well, you better have a big room. Inserts are nice too, but it all depends on what anything looks like. Some movie's half-sheets are awful, but the 1sheets are nice.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42928 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Double Feature |
.html.html .htmlIn a message dated 8/11/2007 12:48:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
I don't see any other review of this so I might as well, in the words of the oppressive humans, "TALK!".
Yeah, where are the others reporting in.
Anyway, sounds like it was a pretty good showing. Heston is pretty easy to laugh at. I remember people even laughed in '68. I think they were supposed to. Glad to hear Bill Creber is still talking about APES. I've been watching the DVDs of the old
"Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" TV show and he was art director on a lot of those, so I'd have asked him about that too.
Anyway, I wish I could have been there, but I couldn't. I think there's a revival theatre in New Jersey that may show the APES films next year for the 40th Anniversary. THAT I will try to get to.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42929 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
.htmlBeneath looked like a brand new print. That was the real treat. It
was a high contrast print though, brights very bright, shadows very
dark. It was very difficult to see James Gregory's eyes. Planet was
the 35th anniversary print. William Creber and Eric Greene spoke
between films.
No one sheets in the lobby... the theatre was about 3/4 full... but a
very enthusiastic crowd... A great time....
A couple of observations:
The first reel change has always proven a problem at every screening
I've been to. Landon says "I'm prepared to die" The end of his
sentence is cut and Taylor's laugh and mimic is a jump cut, ruining
the joke.
Beneath, the gorilla's leathers were black in this transfer, every
previous version I had seen before the thx video master, they were
blue. (The original laserdisc version, pre THX, the colors are
strikingly different)
I've always heard that Taylor's suit had an ANSA patch, and Brent's
said NASA. Not the case, Brent's says ANSA as well.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 8/6/2007 4:25:14 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> john@... writes:
>
>
> > I can't begin to express how jealous I am of you guys getting to
see
> > this! John, Scrolls.
> >
>
> Yeah, it sucks, especially if I hear the prints were nice.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> **************************************
> Get a sneak peek of the all-new
> AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42930 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
.htmlEric Greene mentioned that fact in his presentation.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Also, isn't August 10th the 40th anniversary of the last day of
shooting on
> PLANET?
> -- Rory
>
>
> **************************************
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> AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42931 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: POTA done filming 40 years ago |
.html
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Eric Greene said at the screening that it was
40 years ago to the day (Aug. 10) that they finished filming POTA. They shot
Taylor's speech for the opening.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42932 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/11/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Double Feature |
.htmlLast night was the perfect ending to my "Vacation on
the Planet of the APes"! All week I've been scouting
out locations and taking hundreds of pics with the
hopes of putting together a "Visitor's Guide to
POTA".....
Explored Malibu Creek State Park, Zuma BEach/Point
Dume and Century City....I'll make a full report when
I get home.....sitting in the airport now....
It was great to meet Eric and Creber and JEFF K!!!
Jeff had his copy of Eric's book signed by everyone
from Chuck and Roddy to Jane Goodall! A true
treasure!!!
The prints DID look great and I especially liked the
lighting in some scenes which Creber pointed
out.....Zaius's office scene was excellent...I noticed
a few things that I had not really noticed
brfore....more art in the museum and Z&C's walls and a
bubbling sink in the vet's office......
THe audience was very responsive and laughed a lot
....not only at Heston's lines but all of the "human
see, human do" type lines.....the "see no evil"
stuff....and a big cheer at Ongaro's death....Names in
the credits got applause as well......It was cool to
watch with other fans....
I wondered as I watched how it must have felt to have
no idea that either ending was coming....how much of a
shock they must have been....especially everyone
getting gunned down then blown up in Beneath!
Creber was cool......I asked about the original
concept for the spaceship.....was it ever thought of
as part of another ship or what? He said simply, they
did what they needed to see from the script and they
never thought of anymore ship....only what was
needed....he also said it stood at the gates of the
Fox studios for a long time but doesn't know where it
is....He DOES know where the miniature version (used
for the "sinking" shot) is and he's not telling!
SO glad to have this week here and living and
breathing POTA.....like I said I'll give a more
detailed report when I get home and settled!
Tim
--- "Jeff K." < veetus@...> wrote:
> I don't see any other review of this so I might as
> well, in the words of the oppressive humans,
> "TALK!". I admit I was not particularly interested
> in this because of the distance and I've seen POTA
> on the big screen in excellent prints so many times.
> But I went and it was worth it. POTA looked great as
> always but the good news is "Beneath" looked
> fantastic. These movies look like they were made
> today. I'd love to see the other 3 now that they
> have these great prints from the DVDs. Watching
> "Beneath" with all it's unique visuals was just
> incredible. The army marching, the ruined New York,
> Linda Harrison's tan, it looked like a blown up DVD.
> But it's film, baby. Of course the masks in the
> speech scene looked that much worse. Remember "Point
> Break", the presidents masks? That's what it
> reminded me of. They looked like "happy faces".
> Those kind of mistakes would probably be a minus in
> a wide release for the 40th anniversary but it would
> be great if Fox could do a limited "Go Ape" release
> for film buffs.
> Also on the bill was Eric Greene introducing the
> films and doing a Q & A with Bill Creber. Some of
> the things he mentioned that stick out, he was
> talking about how small the budget was on "Beneath"
> and how they had to reuse what they could find. The
> tube that Brent and Nova walk through, the tunnel?
> Roddy dies in that in "The Poseidon Adventure". He
> mentioned some of the mistakes that stick out for
> him in "Planet", like tracks in the sand from
> previous takes, or how set-like the sets look to
> him, especially the interior of the cave. If they
> did it today they would have backlit it more because
> the sun is coming from the opening. He said he
> wanted moodier lighting to disguise that it's Earth.
> But the studio wanted standard lighting for
> "safety". Can't have an image no one can see.
> Maybe the most interesting thing about this
> screening was how young the crowd was, they looked
> about college age. There were people of all ages but
> most were young. They seemed to eventually get into
> the movie but they laughed at Heston more than I've
> ever heard an audience before. Another point for the
> "camp classic" group. But they did seem to like the
> movie and respect it.
> The theater seemed about half full, maybe a little
> more and then about half left before "Beneath". The
> ones that stayed seemed into "Beneath" with all it's
> faults and applauded when the villain (Don Pedro
> Colley) died.
> I also got to meet Tim P. (tim "ape fan") from
> North Carolina and that was great. He told me his
> adventures visiting the locations this week and he
> couldn't ask for a better conclusion than to see
> those locations on the big screen. I don't know if
> anyone else from these groups was there.
> I won tickets to see the Doors (aka Riders on the
> Storm) tonight so it's a great weekend. This is Jeff
> reporting from La La Land.
>
________________________
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42933 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Double Feature |
.htmlJeff, I'm really grateful for the review--at least I've got some idea
now of how great that event was. I'm amazed to learn that the
tube/tunnel is where Roddy met his demise in The Poseidon Adventure--
that's one seriously unlucky tunnel! John, Scrolls.
>
> I don't see any other review of this so I might as well, in the
words of the oppressive humans, "TALK!". I admit I was not
particularly interested in this because of the distance and I've seen
POTA on the big screen in excellent prints so many times. But I went
and it was worth it. POTA looked great as always but the good news
is "Beneath" looked fantastic. These movies look like they were made
today. I'd love to see the other 3 now that they have these great
prints from the DVDs. Watching "Beneath" with all it's unique visuals
was just incredible. The army marching, the ruined New York, Linda
Harrison's tan, it looked like a blown up DVD. But it's film, baby.
Of course the masks in the speech scene looked that much worse.
Remember "Point Break", the presidents masks? That's what it reminded
me of. They looked like "happy faces". Those kind of mistakes would
probably be a minus in a wide release for the 40th anniversary but it
would be great if Fox could do a limited "Go Ape" release for film
buffs.
> Also on the bill was Eric Greene introducing the films and doing
a Q & A with Bill Creber. Some of the things he mentioned that stick
out, he was talking about how small the budget was on "Beneath" and
how they had to reuse what they could find. The tube that Brent and
Nova walk through, the tunnel? Roddy dies in that in "The Poseidon
Adventure". He mentioned some of the mistakes that stick out for him
in "Planet", like tracks in the sand from previous takes, or how set-
like the sets look to him, especially the interior of the cave. If
they did it today they would have backlit it more because the sun is
coming from the opening. He said he wanted moodier lighting to
disguise that it's Earth. But the studio wanted standard lighting
for "safety". Can't have an image no one can see.
> Maybe the most interesting thing about this screening was how
young the crowd was, they looked about college age. There were people
of all ages but most were young. They seemed to eventually get into
the movie but they laughed at Heston more than I've ever heard an
audience before. Another point for the "camp classic" group. But they
did seem to like the movie and respect it.
> The theater seemed about half full, maybe a little more and then
about half left before "Beneath". The ones that stayed seemed
into "Beneath" with all it's faults and applauded when the villain
(Don Pedro Colley) died.
> I also got to meet Tim P. (tim "ape fan") from North Carolina and
that was great. He told me his adventures visiting the locations this
week and he couldn't ask for a better conclusion than to see those
locations on the big screen. I don't know if anyone else from these
groups was there.
> I won tickets to see the Doors (aka Riders on the Storm) tonight
so it's a great weekend. This is Jeff reporting from La La Land.
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42934 |
From: James |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Double Feature |
.htmlThanks Jeff. Sounds like a great evening for POTA fans. What questions did people ask Greene and Creber?
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote: >
> I don't see any other review of this so I might as well, in the words of the oppressive humans, "TALK!". I admit I was not particularly interested in this because of the distance and I've seen POTA on the big screen in excellent prints so many times. But I went and it was worth it. POTA looked great as always but the good news is "Beneath" looked fantastic. These movies look like they were made today. I'd love to see the other 3 now that they have these great prints from the DVDs. Watching "Beneath" with all it's unique visuals was just incredible. The army marching, the ruined New York, Linda Harrison's tan, it looked like a blown up DVD. But it's film, baby. Of course the masks in the speech scene looked that much worse. Remember "Point Break", the presidents masks? That's what it reminded me of. They looked like "happy faces". Those kind of mistakes would probably be a minus in a wide release for
the 40th anniversary but it would be great if Fox could do a limited "Go Ape" release for film buffs. > Also on the bill was Eric Greene introducing the films and doing a Q & A with Bill Creber. Some of the things he mentioned that stick out, he was talking about how small the budget was on "Beneath" and how they had to reuse what they could find. The tube that Brent and Nova walk through, the tunnel? Roddy dies in that in "The Poseidon Adventure". He mentioned some of the mistakes that stick out for him in "Planet", like tracks in the sand from previous takes, or how set-like the sets look to him, especially the interior of the cave. If they did it today they would have backlit it more because the sun is coming from the opening. He said he wanted moodier lighting to disguise that it's Earth. But the studio wanted standard lighting for "safety". Can't have an image no one can see.
> Maybe the most interesting thing about this screening was how young the crowd was, they looked about college age. There were people of all ages but most were young. They seemed to eventually get into the movie but they laughed at Heston more than I've ever heard an audience before. Another point for the "camp classic" group. But they did seem to like the movie and respect it. > The theater seemed about half full, maybe a little more and then about half left before "Beneath". The ones that stayed seemed into "Beneath" with all it's faults and applauded when the villain (Don Pedro Colley) died. > I also got to meet Tim P. (tim "ape fan") from North Carolina and that was great. He told me his adventures visiting the locations this week and he couldn't ask for a better conclusion than to see those locations on the big screen. I don't know if anyone else from these groups was there.
> I won tickets to see the Doors (aka Riders on the Storm) tonight so it's a great weekend. This is Jeff reporting from La La Land. >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42935 |
From: James |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
.htmlCool! What did Greene and Creber have to say? Did you meet Jeff and Tim?
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote: > > Beneath looked like a brand new print. That was the real treat. It > was a high contrast print though, brights very bright, shadows very > dark. It was very difficult to see James Gregory's eyes. Planet was > the 35th anniversary print. William Creber and Eric Greene spoke > between films. > > No one sheets in the lobby... the theatre was about 3/4 full... but a > very enthusiastic crowd... A great time.... > > A couple of observations: > > The first reel change has always proven a problem at every screening > I've been to. Landon says "I'm prepared to die" The end of his > sentence is cut and Taylor's laugh and mimic is a jump cut, ruining > the joke. >
> Beneath, the gorilla's leathers were black in this transfer, every > previous version I had seen before the thx video master, they were > blue. (The original laserdisc version, pre THX, the colors are > strikingly different) > > I've always heard that Taylor's suit had an ANSA patch, and Brent's > said NASA. Not the case, Brent's says ANSA as well. > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote: > > > > In a message dated 8/6/2007 4:25:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, > > john@ writes: > > > > > > > I can't begin to express how jealous I am of you guys getting to > see > > > this! John, Scrolls. > > > > > > > Yeah, it sucks, especially if I hear the prints were nice. > > > > -- Rory > > > >
> > ************************************** > > Get a sneak peek of the all-new > > AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42936 |
From: James |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Double Feature |
.htmlSounds like you had a great week. I can't wait to see the pics. Please send them when you get home.
One question to all who went to the Double Feature, were each of the films better or worse presented on the big screen?
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote: > > Last night was the perfect ending to my "Vacation on > the Planet of the APes"! All week I've been scouting > out locations and taking hundreds of pics with the > hopes of putting together a "Visitor's Guide to > POTA"..... > > Explored Malibu Creek State Park, Zuma BEach/Point > Dume and Century City....I'll make a full report when > I get home.....sitting in the airport now.... > > It was great to meet Eric and Creber and JEFF K!!! > Jeff had his copy of Eric's book signed by everyone > from Chuck and Roddy to Jane Goodall! A true > treasure!!! > > The prints DID look great and I especially liked the > lighting in some scenes which Creber pointed
> out.....Zaius's office scene was excellent...I noticed > a few things that I had not really noticed > brfore....more art in the museum and Z&C's walls and a > bubbling sink in the vet's office...... > > THe audience was very responsive and laughed a lot > ....not only at Heston's lines but all of the "human > see, human do" type lines.....the "see no evil" > stuff....and a big cheer at Ongaro's death....Names in > the credits got applause as well......It was cool to > watch with other fans.... > > I wondered as I watched how it must have felt to have > no idea that either ending was coming....how much of a > shock they must have been....especially everyone > getting gunned down then blown up in Beneath! > > Creber was cool......I asked about the original > concept for the spaceship.....was it ever thought of
> as part of another ship or what? He said simply, they > did what they needed to see from the script and they > never thought of anymore ship....only what was > needed....he also said it stood at the gates of the > Fox studios for a long time but doesn't know where it > is....He DOES know where the miniature version (used > for the "sinking" shot) is and he's not telling! > > SO glad to have this week here and living and > breathing POTA.....like I said I'll give a more > detailed report when I get home and settled! > > Tim > > --- "Jeff K." veetus@... wrote: > > > I don't see any other review of this so I might as > > well, in the words of the oppressive humans, > > "TALK!". I admit I was not particularly interested > > in this because of the distance and I've seen POTA
> > on the big screen in excellent prints so many times. > > But I went and it was worth it. POTA looked great as > > always but the good news is "Beneath" looked > > fantastic. These movies look like they were made > > today. I'd love to see the other 3 now that they > > have these great prints from the DVDs. Watching > > "Beneath" with all it's unique visuals was just > > incredible. The army marching, the ruined New York, > > Linda Harrison's tan, it looked like a blown up DVD. > > But it's film, baby. Of course the masks in the > > speech scene looked that much worse. Remember "Point > > Break", the presidents masks? That's what it > > reminded me of. They looked like "happy faces". > > Those kind of mistakes would probably be a minus in
> > a wide release for the 40th anniversary but it would > > be great if Fox could do a limited "Go Ape" release > > for film buffs. > > Also on the bill was Eric Greene introducing the > > films and doing a Q & A with Bill Creber. Some of > > the things he mentioned that stick out, he was > > talking about how small the budget was on "Beneath" > > and how they had to reuse what they could find. The > > tube that Brent and Nova walk through, the tunnel? > > Roddy dies in that in "The Poseidon Adventure". He > > mentioned some of the mistakes that stick out for > > him in "Planet", like tracks in the sand from > > previous takes, or how set-like the sets look to > > him, especially the interior of the cave. If they > > did it today they would have backlit it more because
> > the sun is coming from the opening. He said he > > wanted moodier lighting to disguise that it's Earth. > > But the studio wanted standard lighting for > > "safety". Can't have an image no one can see. > > Maybe the most interesting thing about this > > screening was how young the crowd was, they looked > > about college age. There were people of all ages but > > most were young. They seemed to eventually get into > > the movie but they laughed at Heston more than I've > > ever heard an audience before. Another point for the > > "camp classic" group. But they did seem to like the > > movie and respect it. > > The theater seemed about half full, maybe a little > > more and then about half left before "Beneath". The > > ones that stayed seemed into "Beneath" with all it's
> > faults and applauded when the villain (Don Pedro > > Colley) died. > > I also got to meet Tim P. (tim "ape fan") from > > North Carolina and that was great. He told me his > > adventures visiting the locations this week and he > > couldn't ask for a better conclusion than to see > > those locations on the big screen. I don't know if > > anyone else from these groups was there. > > I won tickets to see the Doors (aka Riders on the > > Storm) tonight so it's a great weekend. This is Jeff > > reporting from La La Land. > > > > > > ________________________> Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42937 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet/Beneath Double Feature |
.htmlI wanted to ask Creber about the origins of the claw in the museum,
was it an existing piece or was it created for the film, but was
never called on before time ran out.
No, I didn't meet Jeff and Tim, although I recognized Jeff from other
LA ape events, even if he didn't have the go ape shirt on, having
seen him many times before. I didn't even speak to Eric, whom I know,
I was too preoccupied with maintaining what I thought was the best
seat in the house.
I love Beneath, it is impossible to put into words how great it was
to have the chance to see it for the first time on the big screen in
a clean print. The people who didn't stay for it, and there were a
signifcant amount of people that did leave, really missed out.
I just hope that there will be a Conquest print struck and screened
sometime soon. Hopefully with the extended version of Battle.
Just as a side note, those of us that went to the Apes screening, had
to miss, at the Egyptian, the sister theatre, a double feature of
brand new 35 mm prints of Journey to the Center of the Earth and
World Without End. I regretted missing them, but the Apes were the
clear choice.
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> Cool! What did Greene and Creber have to say? Did you meet Jeff and
Tim?
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Date: 8/12/2007 |
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apefan23@... writes:
....he
also said it stood at the gates of the Fox studios for a long time but
doesn't know where it is....
Rusting on the roof of an abandon roadside cafe in Utah isn't it?
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From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
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Both films are great on the big screen.
Better than what, DVD? Definitely. The only problem I had were the bad masks
during Ursus' speech. It's even more jarring on the big screen. I don't know
about all 5 but if Fox released these two for the 40th ann. I think it would
work. They're certainly different from what we get today.
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Subject: [POTA] Re: POTA Double
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Sounds like you had a great week. I can't wait to
see the pics. Please send them when you get home.
One question to all who went to the Double
Feature, were each of the films better or worse presented on the big screen?
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim
\"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote: > > Last night was the
perfect ending to my "Vacation on > the Planet of the APes"! All week
I've been scouting > out locations and taking hundreds of pics with
the > hopes of putting together a "Visitor's Guide to >
POTA"..... > > Explored Malibu Creek State Park, Zuma
BEach/Point > Dume and Century City....I'll make a full report
when > I get home.....sitting in the airport now.... > > It
was great to meet Eric and Creber and JEFF K!!! > Jeff had his copy of
Eric's book signed by everyone > from Chuck and Roddy to Jane Goodall! A
true > treasure!!! > > The prints DID look great and I
especially liked the > lighting in some scenes which Creber
pointed > out.....Zaius' s office scene was excellent... I
noticed > a few things that I had not really noticed >
brfore....more art in the museum and Z&C's walls and a > bubbling
sink in the vet's office...... > > THe audience was very
responsive and laughed a lot > ....not only at Heston's lines but all of
the "human > see, human do" type lines.....the "see no evil" >
stuff....and a big cheer at Ongaro's death....Names in > the credits got
applause as well......It was cool to > watch with other fans.... >
> I wondered as I watched how it must have felt to have > no idea
that either ending was coming....how much of a > shock they must have
been....especially everyone > getting gunned down then blown up in
Beneath! > > Creber was cool......I asked about the
original > concept for the spaceship... ..was it ever thought
of > as part of another ship or what? He said simply, they > did
what they needed to see from the script and they > never thought of
anymore ship....only what was > needed....he also said it stood at the
gates of the > Fox studios for a long time but doesn't know where
it > is....He DOES know where the miniature version (used > for
the "sinking" shot) is and he's not telling! > > SO glad to have
this week here and living and > breathing POTA.....like I said I'll give
a more > detailed report when I get home and settled! > >
Tim > > --- "Jeff K." veetus@... wrote: > > > I
don't see any other review of this so I might as > > well, in the
words of the oppressive humans, > > "TALK!". I admit I was not
particularly interested > > in this because of the distance and I've
seen POTA > > on the big screen in excellent prints so many
times. > > But I went and it was worth it. POTA looked great
as > > always but the good news is "Beneath" looked > >
fantastic. These movies look like they were made > > today. I'd love
to see the other 3 now that they > > have these great prints from the
DVDs. Watching > > "Beneath" with all it's unique visuals was
just > > incredible. The army marching, the ruined New York, >
> Linda Harrison's tan, it looked like a blown up DVD. > > But
it's film, baby. Of course the masks in the > > speech scene looked
that much worse. Remember "Point > > Break", the presidents masks?
That's what it > > reminded me of. They looked like "happy
faces". > > Those kind of mistakes would probably be a minus
in > > a wide release for the 40th anniversary but it would >
> be great if Fox could do a limited "Go Ape" release > > for film
buffs. > > Also on the bill was Eric Greene introducing the >
> films and doing a Q & A with Bill Creber. Some of > > the
things he mentioned that stick out, he was > > talking about how
small the budget was on "Beneath" > > and how they had to reuse what
they could find. The > > tube that Brent and Nova walk through, the
tunnel? > > Roddy dies in that in "The Poseidon Adventure".
He > > mentioned some of the mistakes that stick out for > >
him in "Planet", like tracks in the sand from > > previous takes, or
how set-like the sets look to > > him, especially the interior of the
cave. If they > > did it today they would have backlit it more
because > > the sun is coming from the opening. He said he >
> wanted moodier lighting to disguise that it's Earth. > > But the
studio wanted standard lighting for > > "safety". Can't have an image
no one can see. > > Maybe the most interesting thing about
this > > screening was how young the crowd was, they looked >
> about college age. There were people of all ages but > > most
were young. They seemed to eventually get into > > the movie but they
laughed at Heston more than I've > > ever heard an audience before.
Another point for the > > "camp classic" group. But they did seem to
like the > > movie and respect it. > > The theater seemed
about half full, maybe a little > > more and then about half left
before "Beneath". The > > ones that stayed seemed into "Beneath" with
all it's > > faults and applauded when the villain (Don Pedro >
> Colley) died. > > I also got to meet Tim P. (tim "ape fan")
from > > North Carolina and that was great. He told me his >
> adventures visiting the locations this week and he > > couldn't
ask for a better conclusion than to see > > those locations on the
big screen. I don't know if > > anyone else from these groups was
there. > > I won tickets to see the Doors (aka Riders on the >
> Storm) tonight so it's a great weekend. This is Jeff > >
reporting from La La Land. > > > > > >
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Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's > Comedy with an Edge to see
what's on, when. >
http://tv.yahoo. com/collections/ 222 >
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No problem, John. And to top it off, the
Doors concert was fantastic.
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Jeff, I'm really grateful for the review--at least I've got some idea
now of how great that event was. I'm amazed to learn that the
tube/tunnel is where Roddy met his demise in The Poseidon
Adventure-- that's one seriously unlucky tunnel! John, Scrolls.
> > I don't see any other review of this so I might as well, in
the words of the oppressive humans, "TALK!". I admit I was not
particularly interested in this because of the distance and I've seen
POTA on the big screen in excellent prints so many times. But I went
and it was worth it. POTA looked great as always but the good news is
"Beneath" looked fantastic. These movies look like they were made today.
I'd love to see the other 3 now that they have these great prints from the
DVDs. Watching "Beneath" with all it's unique visuals was just incredible.
The army marching, the ruined New York, Linda Harrison's tan, it looked
like a blown up DVD. But it's film, baby. Of course the masks in the
speech scene looked that much worse. Remember "Point Break", the
presidents masks? That's what it reminded me of. They looked like "happy
faces". Those kind of mistakes would probably be a minus in a wide release
for the 40th anniversary but it would be great if Fox could do a limited
"Go Ape" release for film buffs. > Also on the bill was Eric Greene
introducing the films and doing a Q & A with Bill Creber. Some of the
things he mentioned that stick out, he was talking about how small the
budget was on "Beneath" and how they had to reuse what they could find.
The tube that Brent and Nova walk through, the tunnel? Roddy dies in that
in "The Poseidon Adventure". He mentioned some of the mistakes that stick
out for him in "Planet", like tracks in the sand from previous takes, or
how set- like the sets look to him, especially the interior of the cave. If
they did it today they would have backlit it more because the sun is
coming from the opening. He said he wanted moodier lighting to
disguise that it's Earth. But the studio wanted standard lighting for
"safety". Can't have an image no one can see. > Maybe the most
interesting thing about this screening was how young the crowd was, they
looked about college age. There were people of all ages but most were
young. They seemed to eventually get into the movie but they laughed at
Heston more than I've ever heard an audience before. Another point for the
"camp classic" group. But they did seem to like the movie and respect it.
> The theater seemed about half full, maybe a little more and then
about half left before "Beneath". The ones that stayed seemed into
"Beneath" with all it's faults and applauded when the villain (Don Pedro
Colley) died. > I also got to meet Tim P. (tim "ape fan") from North
Carolina and that was great. He told me his adventures visiting the
locations this week and he couldn't ask for a better conclusion than to
see those locations on the big screen. I don't know if anyone else from
these groups was there. > I won tickets to see the Doors (aka
Riders on the Storm) tonight so it's a great weekend. This is Jeff
reporting from La La Land. >
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From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/12/2007 |
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.html.html .htmlIn a message dated 8/12/2007 2:26:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, drhasslein@... writes:
Just as a side note, those of us that went to the Apes screening, had
to miss, at the Egyptian, the sister theatre, a double feature of
brand new 35 mm prints of Journey to the Center of the Earth and
World Without End. I regretted missing them, but the Apes were the
clear choice.
Damn! That would have killed me! I'd love to see JOURNEY on the big screen. That was one of the first Fox films Emil Kosa, Jr. did matte paintings for. (I'm currently renting the DVDs from "Land of the Giants," which was some of the last work he did in late '68.)
If that truly was a "new" 35mm print of JOURNEY, that makes me think a Special Edition DVD may soon be coming from Fox.
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Date: 8/12/2007 |
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.html.html .htmlIn a message dated 8/12/2007 5:42:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
The only problem I had were the bad masks during Ursus' speech.
BENEATH really was just a cheap cash-in on the original. They had some intriguing ideas, but the whole movie was half-baked and looked like something made by a committee of bloody baboons!
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Yeah, but "Beneath" still looks cool on the
big screen. It also has a loyal following. People like it's bad ass attitude. I
think those two would have a successful 40th anniversary run.
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In a message dated 8/12/2007 5:42:37 PM Eastern
Standard Time, veetus@earthlink. net
writes:
The only
problem I had were the bad masks during Ursus'
speech.
BENEATH really was just a cheap cash-in on the
original. They had some intriguing ideas, but the whole movie was
half-baked and looked like something made by a committee of bloody
baboons!
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