Fifty dollars is not a bad price for this model it's 10 inches long and has an interior.

Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; potaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 8:46 pm
Subject: [POTA] New Icarus Model

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haristas@...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com; potaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 8:46 pm
> Subject: [POTA] New Icarus Model

> Is everyone here aware that a new Icarus model is coming out next week?
>
>

http://www.monstersinmotion.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/24/products_id/4865

>
> -- Rory

I don't think that's new, rather a re-release of the Wilco kit from a
few years back. (<http://www.goingfaster.com/icarus/allthings.htm>) I
have one (unbuilt) and it's very rough around the edges. Some parts
are eggshell thin, others are way too thick (some are both!) The
interior is a waste if time and very inaccurate.

If it's anything like my version I'd file it under for experienced and
dedicated modellers only. If I'd had the chance to examine what I was
buying first I would have walked away. On the plus side it is pretty
cheap.

Dave

>2.1. Cornelius' Journal
>Posted by: "James" JamesA1102@... jamesa1102
>Happy Friday everyone! The latest entry of CORNELIUS' JOURNAL is now
>available.
>To read the JOURNAL entry either click the banner on the Yahoo home page
>or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm
><http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm>

Hey guys,

I just read the Cornelius Journals and I have to say, they're very
creative. Job well done!

Heya ...

The drone/hum in "Beneath" was created with a ring modulator. I came
cross an interesting little bit about it in a book about musical
effects (mostly for guitar, but for other instruments, too). It
includes an interview with a guy named Tom Oberheim. He's famous for
building synthesizers, but early on he was making ring modulators:

"In early 1969, the word got around about my ring modulators enough
that I got a call from a movie composer named Leonard Rosenmann [sic],
who wanted to use the ring modulators on the film score for 'Beneath
the Planet of the Apes.' So one day I took one of my ring modulators
with a mike, amp, and speaker to the music scoring sound stage at 20th
Century Fox and set it up. When the orchestra took a break, several of
the members asked me about the ring modulator, and three of them
actually placed orders! So I was in business." ("Analog Man's Guide to
Vintage Effects," by Tom Hughes, (For Musicians Only Publishing,
2004).p. 47)

Oberheim's ring modulator design was bought by a company called
Chicago Musical Instruments and sold as the Maestro Ring Modulator.

Offhand, I don't recall any ring modulator sounds in the musical score
of the movie, but the hum and drones are definitely ring
modulator-type sounds. Maybe those sounds were created by processing
orchestral instruments through the ring modulator?

There's some more info. about ring modulators here:

http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Articles/Ring_Modulation/

-- Dave

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> Here's a bit of Fox sound trivia for you: the roaring engine sound that
> the spaceship make upon reentry at the beginning of PLANET is the same
> sound used when the Batmobile was fired up in the 60's TV series (when
> you'd see the flame shooting out of the back). Also, I could swear I
hear
> the Batmobile engine "whine" a bit right at the scene when the camera
> starts rotating upside down and then starts panning across the ground
> right before the landing.
>
> One of the things I love about BENEATH is that Leonard Rosenman was
> involved in the creation of a lot of the sound effects- most notably the
> Mutant mind noises and the drone/hum sound sculpture that plays while
> Brent & Nova are following "That Hum!!". To the best of my knowledge,
> they've never been used anywhere else.
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
>
> >>All of the sound effects in PLANET are old stuff from the Fox Sound
> Department. I hear the same gun and rifle shots in Fox westerns from the
> fifties. (I
> think the sound "foleys" in later Fox films of the sixties and
seventies
> started when they started recording them on magnetic tape in the early
> fifties.) I
> also hear the sound effects of like the spaceship crash landing in
> episodes of
> "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea." I think all the stuff was used again
> and
> again until the era of STAR WARS and Dolby Sound required bettering all
> of it. >>
>

Hi all,

Looks like Yahoo got a little flukey again the past couple days and
didn't send the POTA Digest to me. So if someone else who subscribes to
the group via digest format could forward #'s 3798 and 3799 to me, I'd
appreciate it. No worries if multiple people send them to me- that's
easily enough fixed.


Thanks!!

Chris L.

David, thanks for the info! That's really fascinating.Apes seems to
have been at the cutting edge of damn near everything. John, Scrolls.

>
> Heya ...
>
> The drone/hum in "Beneath" was created with a ring modulator. I came
> cross an interesting little bit about it in a book about musical
> effects (mostly for guitar, but for other instruments, too). It
> includes an interview with a guy named Tom Oberheim. He's famous for
> building synthesizers, but early on he was making ring modulators:
>
> "In early 1969, the word got around about my ring modulators enough
> that I got a call from a movie composer named Leonard Rosenmann

[sic],

> who wanted to use the ring modulators on the film score for 'Beneath
> the Planet of the Apes.' So one day I took one of my ring modulators
> with a mike, amp, and speaker to the music scoring sound stage at

20th

> Century Fox and set it up. When the orchestra took a break, several

of

> the members asked me about the ring modulator, and three of them
> actually placed orders! So I was in business." ("Analog Man's Guide

to

> Vintage Effects," by Tom Hughes, (For Musicians Only Publishing,
> 2004).p. 47)
>
> Oberheim's ring modulator design was bought by a company called
> Chicago Musical Instruments and sold as the Maestro Ring Modulator.
>
> Offhand, I don't recall any ring modulator sounds in the musical

score

> of the movie, but the hum and drones are definitely ring
> modulator-type sounds. Maybe those sounds were created by processing
> orchestral instruments through the ring modulator?
>
> There's some more info. about ring modulators here:
>
> http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Articles/Ring_Modulation/
>
> -- Dave
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@> wrote:
> >
> > Here's a bit of Fox sound trivia for you: the roaring engine

sound that

> > the spaceship make upon reentry at the beginning of PLANET is the

same

> > sound used when the Batmobile was fired up in the 60's TV series

(when

> > you'd see the flame shooting out of the back). Also, I could

swear I

> hear
> > the Batmobile engine "whine" a bit right at the scene when the

camera

> > starts rotating upside down and then starts panning across the

ground

> > right before the landing.
> >
> > One of the things I love about BENEATH is that Leonard Rosenman

was

> > involved in the creation of a lot of the sound effects- most

notably the

> > Mutant mind noises and the drone/hum sound sculpture that plays

while

> > Brent & Nova are following "That Hum!!". To the best of my

knowledge,

> > they've never been used anywhere else.
> >
> > Chris L.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Haristas@" <Haristas@> wrote:
> >
> > >>All of the sound effects in PLANET are old stuff from the Fox

Sound

> > Department. I hear the same gun and rifle shots in Fox westerns

from the

> > fifties. (I
> > think the sound "foleys" in later Fox films of the sixties and
> seventies
> > started when they started recording them on magnetic tape in the

early

> > fifties.) I
> > also hear the sound effects of like the spaceship crash landing in
> > episodes of
> > "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea." I think all the stuff was used

again

> > and
> > again until the era of STAR WARS and Dolby Sound required

bettering all

> > of it. >>
> >
>

According to all available records "The Liberator" never aired during the series network run. A few people claim to remember seeing it but have never shown any proof that it did air in some parts of the country.

Of course there are those who claim to remember delete scenes from the films that no one can find any evidence of, the Gorilla army marching past the ruins of the Radio City marquee is one example.

While I believe that everyone is sincere in these claims, what they are really relating are false memories. They only think they saw "The Liberator" in 1974 or the Gorilla army/Radio City scene in Beneath. I've had the same thing happen to me. I remember to this day a scene where the Gorillas were hunting and captured an elephant. I now know that that scene with never a part of the script or ever filmed.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "aboro3085" <aboro3085@...> wrote:
>
> The episode in question is "The Liberator", however it did air during
> the original run. It was pre-empted in many areas of the country
> though, so that's probably why they say it didn't air.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
> >
> > <<Although it only lasted 14 episodes (one of which was never
> aired,) the
> > entire collection can be seen on DVD. >>
> >
> > Is this true???
> > Which one wasn't aired?
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: James

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 4:13 PM

Subject: [POTA] Re: APELINES.

According to all available records "The Liberator" never aired during the series network run. A few people claim to remember seeing it but have never shown any proof that it did air in some parts of the country.

Of course there are those who claim to remember delete scenes from the films that no one can find any evidence of, the Gorilla army marching past the ruins of the Radio City marquee is one example.

While I believe that everyone is sincere in these claims, what they are really relating are false memories. They only think they saw "The Liberator" in 1974 or the Gorilla army/Radio City scene in Beneath. I've had the same thing happen to me. I remember to this day a scene where the Gorillas were hunting and captured an elephant. I now know that that scene with never a part of the script or ever filmed.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "aboro3085" <aboro3085@.. .> wrote:
>
> The episode in question is "The Liberator", however it did air during
> the original run. It was pre-empted in many areas of the country
> though, so that's probably why they say it didn't air.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
> >
> > <<Although it only lasted 14 episodes (one of which was never
> aired,) the
> > entire collection can be seen on DVD. >>
> >
> > Is this true???
> > Which one wasn't aired?
>

<.html

Yes all available evidence says that "The Liberator" did not air in the US on CBS in 1974. I never saw it until the early '90s on the SciFi channel.

A few people have claimed to have seen it in 1974 on CBS which led to the speculation that it was only pre-empted in part of the country. However, no one has ever provide proof that it aired.

While I don't doubt the sincerity of those making the claim, I believe their memories are playing tricks on them.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Mansell" <robert.mansell@...> wrote:
>
> James
>
> I was not around to witness the original airing. However I am led to believe that the episode did not air in the US.
>
> Robert Mansell
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 4:13 PM
> Subject: [POTA] Re: APELINES.
>
>
>
> According to all available records "The Liberator" never aired during the series network run. A few people claim to remember seeing it but have never shown any proof that it did air in some parts of the country.
>
> Of course there are those who claim to remember delete scenes from the films that no one can find any evidence of, the Gorilla army marching past the ruins of the Radio City marquee is one example.
>
> While I believe that everyone is sincere in these claims, what they are really relating are false memories. They only think they saw "The Liberator" in 1974 or the Gorilla army/Radio City scene in Beneath. I've had the same thing happen to me. I remember to this day a scene where the Gorillas were hunting and captured an elephant. I now know that that scene with never a part of the script or ever filmed.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "aboro3085" aboro3085@ wrote:
> >
> > The episode in question is "The Liberator", however it did air during
> > the original run. It was pre-empted in many areas of the country
> > though, so that's probably why they say it didn't air.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
> > >
> > > <<Although it only lasted 14 episodes (one of which was never
> > aired,) the
> > > entire collection can be seen on DVD. >>
> > >
> > > Is this true???
> > > Which one wasn't aired?
> >
>

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No, James, it's true.  The Gorilla army actually did pass the Radio City Music Hall marquee.  That is where they encountered three of the remaining mutant heads--Caspay, the Fat Man (Adiposo) and the Verger of the Cathedral...and they were gunned down on orders of General Ursus.  I can't understand why that was cut out of the DVD...as well as there also was longer footage of Taylor's final confrontation with Dr. Zaius.   When I saw the movie in July 1970 I was with my brother and some friends from the neighborhood...unfortunately, my brother and a couple of the friends are now deceased, and the other friends live out of town and don't have Internet access...otherwise, I'm sure that they would have vouched for me.   But it's the truth.   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: James Date: 10/28/07 11:14:21 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: APELINES.   According to all available records "The Liberator" never aired during the series network run. A few people claim to remember seeing it but have never shown any proof that it did air in some parts of the country. Of course there are those who claim to remember delete scenes from the films that no one can find any evidence of, the Gorilla army marching past the ruins of the Radio City marquee is one example. While I believe that everyone is sincere in these claims, what they are really relating are false memories. They only think they saw "The Liberator" in 1974 or the Gorilla army/Radio City scene in Beneath. I've had the same thing happen to me. I remember to this day a scene where the Gorillas were hunting and captured an elephant. I now know that that scene with never a part of the script or ever filmed. --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "aboro3085" <aboro3085@.. .> wrote: > > The episode in question is "The Liberator", however it did air during > the original run. It was pre-empted in many areas of the country > though, so that's probably why they say it didn't air. > > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, LordTZer0@ wrote: > > > > <<Although it only lasted 14 episodes (one of which was never > aired,) the > > entire collection can be seen on DVD. >> > > > > Is this true??? > > Which one wasn't aired? >

<.html

Zach,

I'm sure you really remember that. But it is a false memory. No such scene was in the script or was ever filmed. Plus no one else who saw the film in 1970, including me, remembers any such scene.

The truth is that after over 35 years our minds have a way of jumbling our memories. I still remember the scene with the elephant to this day, but I know it is just my mind creating a false memory.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zach S" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> No, James, it's true. The Gorilla army actually did pass the Radio City
> Music Hall marquee. That is where they encountered three of the remaining
> mutant heads--Caspay, the Fat Man (Adiposo) and the Verger of the Cathedral.
> .and they were gunned down on orders of General Ursus. I can't understand
> why that was cut out of the DVD...as well as there also was longer footage
> of Taylor's final confrontation with Dr. Zaius.
>
>
>
> When I saw the movie in July 1970 I was with my brother and some friends
> from the neighborhood...unfortunately, my brother and a couple of the
> friends are now deceased, and the other friends live out of town and don't
> have Internet access...otherwise, I'm sure that they would have vouched for
> me.
>
>
>
> But it's the truth.
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: James
>
> Date: 10/28/07 11:14:21
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [POTA] Re: APELINES.
>
>
>
> According to all available records "The Liberator" never aired during the
> series network run. A few people claim to remember seeing it but have never
> shown any proof that it did air in some parts of the country.
>
> Of course there are those who claim to remember delete scenes from the films
> that no one can find any evidence of, the Gorilla army marching past the
> ruins of the Radio City marquee is one example.
>
> While I believe that everyone is sincere in these claims, what they are
> really relating are false memories. They only think they saw "The Liberator"
> in 1974 or the Gorilla army/Radio City scene in Beneath. I've had the same
> thing happen to me. I remember to this day a scene where the Gorillas were
> hunting and captured an elephant. I now know that that scene with never a
> part of the script or ever filmed.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "aboro3085" aboro3085@ wrote:
>
> >
>
> > The episode in question is "The Liberator", however it did air during
>
> > the original run. It was pre-empted in many areas of the country
>
> > though, so that's probably why they say it didn't air.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > <<Although it only lasted 14 episodes (one of which was never
>
> > aired,) the
>
> > > entire collection can be seen on DVD. >>
>
> > >
>
> > > Is this true???
>
> > > Which one wasn't aired?
>
> >
>

Thanks Rich. While we do these things for love of POTA it is nice to hear that other people enjoy them too.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
>
> >2.1. Cornelius' Journal
> >Posted by: "James" JamesA1102@... jamesa1102
> >Happy Friday everyone! The latest entry of CORNELIUS' JOURNAL is now
> >available.
> >To read the JOURNAL entry either click the banner on the Yahoo home page
> >or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm
> ><http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm>
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I just read the Cornelius Journals and I have to say, they're very
> creative. Job well done!
>

Yeah, those scenes were never shot, or else we'd at least have stills
from them. I never heard of those scenes until I read the novelization.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 28 4:48 PM
Subject: [POTA] Re: APELINES.







Zach,

I'm sure you really remember that. But it is a false memory. No such
scene was in the script or was ever filmed. Plus no one else who saw
the film in 1970, including me, remembers any such scene.

The truth is that after over 35 years our minds have a way of jumbling
our memories. I still remember the scene with the elephant to this day,
but I know it is just my mind creating a false memory.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zach S" .> wrote:
>
> No, James, it's true. The Gorilla army actually did pass the Radio
City
> Music Hall marquee. That is where they encountered three of the
remaining
> mutant heads--Caspay, the Fat Man (Adiposo) and the Verger of the
Cathedral.
> .and they were gunned down on orders of General Ursus. I can't
understand
> why that was cut out of the DVD...as well as there also was longer
footage
> of Taylor's final confrontation with Dr. Zaius.
>
>
>
> When I saw the movie in July 1970 I was with my brother and some
friends
> from the neighborhood...unfortunately, my brother and a couple of the
> friends are now deceased, and the other friends live out of town and
don't
> have Internet access...otherwise, I'm sure that they would have
vouched for
> me.
>
>
>
> But it's the truth.
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: James
>
> Date: 10/28/07 11:14:21
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [POTA] Re: APELINES.
>
>
>
> According to all available records "The Liberator" never aired during
the
> series network run. A few people claim to remember seeing it but have
never
> shown any proof that it did air in some parts of the country.
>
> Of course there are those who claim to remember delete scenes from
the films
> that no one can find any evidence of, the Gorilla army marching past
the
> ruins of the Radio City marquee is one example.
>
> While I believe that everyone is sincere in these claims, what they
are
> really relating are false memories. They only think they saw "The
Liberator"
> in 1974 or the Gorilla army/Radio City scene in Beneath. I've had the
same
> thing happen to me. I remember to this day a scene where the Gorillas
were
> hunting and captured an elephant. I now know that that scene with
never a
> part of the script or ever filmed.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "aboro3085" aboro3085@ wrote:
>
> >
>
> > The episode in question is "The Liberator", however it did air
during
>
> > the original run. It was pre-empted in many areas of the country
>
> > though, so that's probably why they say it didn't air.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >
> > aired,) the
>
> > > entire collection can be seen on DVD. >>
>
> > >
>
> > > Is this true???
>
> > > Which one wasn't aired?
>
> >
>










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____________

While I'm glad that James is finally standing up along with me and
saying that these scenes never existed, it IS very frustrating that
he didn't say all of this when we had the debate about these non-
existing scenes awhile back under the "What I Really Miss" subject.
(I think that was the subject heading anyway.)

I listed all of the scenes from BENEATH that have photographic
evidence and scripted evidence that the scenes I know of at least did
exist.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

Yeah, those scenes were never shot, or else we'd at least have stills
from them. I never heard of those scenes until I read the
novelization.

-- Rory

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James <JamesA1102@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, Oct 28 4:48 PM
> Subject: [POTA] Re: APELINES.
Zach,

I'm sure you really remember that. But it is a false memory. No such
scene was in the script or was ever filmed. Plus no one else who saw
the film in 1970, including me, remembers any such scene.

The truth is that after over 35 years our minds have a way of
jumbling our memories. I still remember the scene with the elephant
to this day, but I know it is just my mind creating a false memory.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zach S" .> wrote:

No, James, it's true. The Gorilla army actually did pass the Radio
City Music Hall marquee. That is where they encountered three of the
remaining mutant heads--Caspay, the Fat Man (Adiposo) and the Verger
of the Cathedral and they were gunned down on orders of General
Ursus. I can't understand why that was cut out of the DVD...as well
as there also was longer footage of Taylor's final confrontation with
Dr. Zaius.

.html

>>Heya ...

The drone/hum in "Beneath" was created with a ring modulator. I came
cross an interesting little bit about it in a book about musical
effects (mostly for guitar, but for other instruments, too). It
includes an interview with a guy named Tom Oberheim. He's famous for
building synthesizers, but early on he was making ring modulators:

"In early 1969, the word got around about my ring modulators enough
that I got a call from a movie composer named Leonard Rosenmann [sic],
who wanted to use the ring modulators on the film score for 'Beneath
the Planet of the Apes.' So one day I took one of my ring modulators
with a mike, amp, and speaker to the music scoring sound stage at 20th
Century Fox and set it up. When the orchestra took a break, several of
the members asked me about the ring modulator, and three of them
actually placed orders! So I was in business." ("Analog Man's Guide to
Vintage Effects," by Tom Hughes, (For Musicians Only Publishing,
2004).p. 47)

Oberheim's ring modulator design was bought by a company called
Chicago Musical Instruments and sold as the Maestro Ring Modulator.

Offhand, I don't recall any ring modulator sounds in the musical score
of the movie, but the hum and drones are definitely ring
modulator-type sounds. Maybe those sounds were created by processing
orchestral instruments through the ring modulator?

There's some more info. about ring modulators here:

http://www.harmony- central.com/ Effects/Articles /Ring_Modulation / <<
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I have copies of the color/sound versions of the 8MM films. They are too big to post online but I am putting together a DVD with all of them as well the trailers and a few extras.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone here know if the Apes 8MM films (both that color and B&W versions)
> were ever posted online somewhere? I was always curious what the edits
> were like, and supposedly the color version also had sound.
>
>
> Chris L.
>

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Well, if you say so...but I'm sure that I saw that.   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: aboro3085 Date: 10/28/07 19:17:08 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: APELINES.   While I'm glad that James is finally standing up along with me and saying that these scenes never existed, it IS very frustrating that he didn't say all of this when we had the debate about these non- existing scenes awhile back under the "What I Really Miss" subject. (I think that was the subject heading anyway.) I listed all of the scenes from BENEATH that have photographic evidence and scripted evidence that the scenes I know of at least did exist. --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote: Yeah, those scenes were never shot, or else we'd at least have stills from them. I never heard of those scenes until I read the novelization. -- Rory > -----Original Message----- > From: James <JamesA1102@ ...> > To: pota@yahoogroups. com > Sent: Sun, Oct 28 4:48 PM > Subject: [POTA] Re: APELINES. Zach, I'm sure you really remember that. But it is a false memory. No such scene was in the script or was ever filmed. Plus no one else who saw the film in 1970, including me, remembers any such scene. The truth is that after over 35 years our minds have a way of jumbling our memories. I still remember the scene with the elephant to this day, but I know it is just my mind creating a false memory. --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Zach S" .> wrote: No, James, it's true. The Gorilla army actually did pass the Radio City Music Hall marquee. That is where they encountered three of the remaining mutant heads--Caspay, the Fat Man (Adiposo) and the Verger of the Cathedral and they were gunned down on orders of General Ursus. I can't understand why that was cut out of the DVD...as well as there also was longer footage of Taylor's final confrontation with Dr. Zaius.

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I think that is just his demeanor. Years ago when I was a district
manager, I pulled up to my Tarzana store, and saw what I thought was a
homeless guy sprawled on the ground by the entrance. I approached to
tell him to move, then I saw it was David Carradine, he was waiting for
family inside... He didn't look too happy then either....

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> "llamawaxlen" <alan@...> wrote:
>
> "I was going to get David Carradine to sign my copy at an event here
> but he looked thoroughly miserable being there so I didn't bother."
>
>
> You should've gone over Alan. He might've appreciated someone asking
him
> about something other than Kung Fu...
>
>
> Chris L.
>

I'd love to see Leonard Rosenman interview for Simian Scrolls one day.
What
do you say Dean-O?

Leonard Rosenman is not going to be interviewed by anyone anymore.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 28 8:17 PM
Subject: [POTA] Re: (OT) Wilhelm Scream









Wow- very interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing David!!

Initially the hum/drone is all sound sculpture, but once Brent and Nova
step out of the tunnel and start walking through the ruins (where you
first
see the New York Public Library) you can hear processed orchestral
instruments.

It kills me that was left off the FSM soundtrack for BENEATH. They
wanted
to include it, but the request for the tape came back as missing/lost.
And when
you consider that all the mutant sound effects were locatable (not to
mention
the original score), you'd think that everything would have been kept
in one
place.

I'd love to see Leonard Rosenman interview for Simian Scrolls one day.
What
do you say Dean-O?


Chris L.



"david_kuzma" david_kuzma@...> wrote:

>>Heya ...

The drone/hum in "Beneath" was created with a ring
modulator. I came
cross an interesting little bit about it in a book about
musical
effects (mostly for guitar, but for other instruments, too).
It
includes an interview with a guy named Tom Oberheim. He's famous
for
building synthesizers, but early on he was making ring
modulators:

"In early 1969, the word got around about my ring modulators
enough
that I got a call from a movie composer named Leonard Rosenmann
[sic],
who wanted to use the ring modulators on the film score for
'Beneath
the Planet of the Apes.' So one day I took one of my ring
modulators
with a mike, amp, and speaker to the music scoring sound stage at
20th
Century Fox and set it up. When the orchestra took a break, several
of
the members asked me about the ring modulator, and three of
them
actually placed orders! So I was in business." ("Analog Man's Guide
to
Vintage Effects," by Tom Hughes, (For Musicians Only
Publishing,
2004).p. 47)

Oberheim's ring modulator design was bought
by a company called
Chicago Musical Instruments and sold as the Maestro Ring
Modulator.

Offhand, I don't recall any ring modulator sounds in the
musical score
of the movie, but the hum and drones are definitely
ring
modulator-type sounds. Maybe those sounds were created by
processing
orchestral instruments through the ring modulator?

There's
some more info. about ring modulators here:

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In a message dated 10/28/2007 11:14:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

I remember to this day a scene where the Gorillas were hunting and captured an elephant. I now know that that scene with never a part of the script or ever filmed.

 

Wow!  That's a good one.  Ever consider false memory therapy?

Now there have been cases of scenes from films being cut for

television and other scenes that were not in the theatrical

release inserted in their place.  Perhaps the scene with

the army in front of Radio City was in a comic.  That

sounds kind of familiar to me too, but I'm not sure.

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 10/28/2007 3:48:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

I still remember the scene with the elephant to this day,

 

I do remember William Hurt turning into a

caveman in Altered States and smacking

an elephant in the zoo.  Perhaps you were

in an altered state when you saw it and

mixed it up.  Anyone remember any

scenes with elephants and apes?

 

 

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In a message dated 10/28/2007 8:33:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, drhasslein@... writes:

I thought was a homeless guy sprawled on the ground by the entrance. I approached to
tell him to move, then I saw it was David Carradine

 

He's a wildman.  He used to shoot Kung Fu

tripping his ass off.  Then he'd hit The Strip

to party at the clubs, beating the crap out

of people with the moves he learned on the

set and the studio would have to hush it up.

 

I'm not regretful about dropping acid, but I could have stopped it a little sooner.
David Carradine

 

 

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The scene with the Grand Army of the Apes led by General Ursus and Dr. Zaius in front of what was once Radio City wasn't in a comic book.  I'm still sure I'd seen that.   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: LordTZer0@... Date: 10/29/07 00:44:00 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: APELINES.   In a message dated 10/28/2007 11:14:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time, JamesA1102@aol. com writes: I remember to this day a scene where the Gorillas were hunting and captured an elephant. I now know that that scene with never a part of the script or ever filmed.   Wow!  That's a good one.  Ever consider false memory therapy? Now there have been cases of scenes from films being cut for television and other scenes that were not in the theatrical release inserted in their place.  Perhaps the scene with the army in front of Radio City was in a comic.  That sounds kind of familiar to me too, but I'm not sure.         See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

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First I need therapy for my POTA obsession;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Wow! That's a good one. Ever consider false memory therapy?
>
>
>

I was there this summer but didn't see the cave
opening...I always assumed that was in the desert
somewhere...
there are so many trees for gorillas to get knocked
off or jump out of it's difficult to say which ones
were actually filmed....It's a huge park and
hopefiully was not destroyed by fire....

--- Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:

> Has anyone on this list ever been to the Malibu
> Creek State Park? I'd
> really like to know if the rock outcropping where
> Brent and Nova first
> went underground is still there.
>
> Didn't someone recently post a link to a You Tube
> video where someone was
> giving a tour through the park? The tree where the
> gorilla got knocked
> off the top of the cart (while he was fighting with
> Brent) was shown as I
> recall.
>
> The photo in the upper right corner of that page
> looks familiar (as does
> the photo above the picture of the climbing wall),
> but I have to admit
> that I don't recall the climbing wall itself...
> :-)
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
>
> "I don't know if it's burning, but I'll bet the
> "Planet of the Apes
> Climbing Wall" is OK."

The cave opening that Brent uses to enter the subway station ruins in
BENEATH was indeed shot in the Malibu Creek Fox Ranch. I think Veetus
would agree. Exactly were that was, who knows? But, you can tell by
the look of the rock that it's the Malibu mountains, besides the
prevoius shots are the ranch, so why would they travel all the way to
the desert to get just a couple shots? (Of course, I wish they had!
They especially should have done the gorilla army entering the airduct
tunnels up at the Red Rock Canyon location rather than at the Ranch.)
I believe the so-called Malibu hills are very old volcanic remains.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Oct 29 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: strange Malibu Creek page






I was there this summer but didn't see the cave

opening...I always assumed that was in the desert

somewhere...

there are so many trees for gorillas to get knocked

off or jump out of it's difficult to say which ones

were actually filmed....It's a huge park and

hopefiully was not destroyed by fire....



--- Chris Lawless lawford42@...> wrote:

> Has anyone on this list ever been to the Malibu

> Creek State Park? I'd

> really like to know if the rock outcropping where

> Brent and Nova first

> went underground is still there.

>

> Didn't someone recently post a link to a You Tube

> video where someone was

> giving a tour through the park? The tree where the

> gorilla got knocked

> off the top of the cart (while he was fighting with

> Brent) was shown as I

> recall.

>

> The photo in the upper right corner of that page

> looks familiar (as does

> the photo above the picture of the climbing wall),

> but I have to admit

> that I don't recall the climbing wall itself...

> :-)

>

>

> Chris L.

>

>

>

> "Haristas@..." Haristas@...> wrote:

>

> "I don't know if it's burning, but I'll bet the

> "Planet of the Apes

> Climbing Wall" is OK."

I've purchased all of them on ebay. can you tell me which ones you have in color and sound on 8mm    thanks, john

James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

I have copies of the color/sound versions of the 8MM films. They are too big to post online but I am putting together a DVD with all of them as well the trailers and a few extras.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@.. .> wrote:
>
> Anyone here know if the Apes 8MM films (both that color and B&W versions)
> were ever posted online somewhere? I was always curious what the edits
> were like, and supposedly the color version also had sound.
>
>
> Chris L.
>

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>>Looks like Yahoo got a little flukey again the past couple days

and
didn't send the POTA Digest to me. So if someone else who subscribes to
the group via digest format could forward #'s 3798 and 3799 to me, I'd
appreciate it. No worries if multiple people send them to me- that's
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the pota
group.

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Description : From Lauren Bacall's Biography

You can access this file at the URL:
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Just want to thank Brendan for contributing this to the group.

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>
>
> Hello,
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I still need these two Digests (below) if someone still has them.
>
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> >>Looks like Yahoo got a little flukey again the past couple days and
> didn't send the POTA Digest to me. So if someone else who subscribes to
> the group via digest format could forward #'s 3798 and 3799 to me, I'd
> appreciate it. No worries if multiple people send them to me- that's
> easily enough fixed. <<
>

Thanks James, but yourself and Dave were the ones who put it
together for all to see. So I Thank You Both.

The Photo mentions Leslie and Sam. Leslie is Her daughter by Bogart
and Sam ( next to Roddy) is her son by Jason Robards so a couple of
Acting Royalty Offspring.

Brendan.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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>
> Just want to thank Brendan for contributing this to the group.
>
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> > Hello,
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> > You can access this file at the URL:
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Thanks to Brendon and James....That was very touching (and interesting in the side story of Liz Taylor meeting Sybil Burton for the first time.....)
Roddy seemed to be well loved.....wish I could have met him.,...

Tim

James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Just want to thank Brendan for contributing this to the group.

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I couldn't see the picture.....on;y the very top of it....can it be sent seperately?

brendan486 <nzape@...> wrote:

Thanks James, but yourself and Dave were the ones who put it
together for all to see. So I Thank You Both.

The Photo mentions Leslie and Sam. Leslie is Her daughter by Bogart
and Sam ( next to Roddy) is her son by Jason Robards so a couple of
Acting Royalty Offspring.

Brendan.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "James" <JamesA1102@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> Just want to thank Brendan for contributing this to the group.
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I love the quip about Gore & the internet in the corner! Very clever.
Is there a collection of the past banners somewhere? I'd like to see
them all....

Very touching.

It comes as no surprise but Roddy was obviously well loved by a great
many people.

Dave

I know this is a bit late,but I am not on as often as I had
been,,anyway greetings from Scotland Jessica..welcome to the
group..all the besst ..Bobby

Is anyone having an apes Holloween? Anyone dressing up?

Mark

Thanks. And since you asked I've created a new folder in the Group's Photos Section  called 'Old Banners' with a selection of some of the old Yahoo home page banners.

They can also be viewed here: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/spnew

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> I love the quip about Gore & the internet in the corner! Very clever.
> Is there a collection of the past banners somewhere? I'd like to see
> them all....
>

Thank you for sharing them all.  I loved all of them.  They are great eye candy and made my day  :)

On 10/31/07, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> I love the quip about Gore & the internet in the corner! Very clever.
> Is there a collection of the past banners somewhere? I'd like to see
> them all....
>

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071101/ap_on_re_us/signing_chimpanzee_dies

Hunter

I had not realised Washoe was still alive,I remember seeing footage of
her teaching some of the younger chimps where she was kept the signing
as well.I think she was born around 1965ish? so in chimp terms she was
a very old lady lol..eek come to think on it she was a year younger
than I am lol..Bobby

Er I did dress up in the hospital where I work,alas not in ape
costume,but my Star Trek Uniform..gawd the Borg head gear sure makes
things hot lol

This is sad....I remember seeing a show on her when I was a kid....she was remarkable!

Tim

Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

http://news. yahoo.com/ s/ap/20071101/ ap_on_re_ us/signing_ chimpanzee_ dies

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On 11/1/07, Bobby Smyth <cuddybuddy69@...> wrote:

Er I did dress up in the hospital where I work,alas not in ape
costume,but my Star Trek Uniform..gawd the Borg head gear sure makes
things hot lol

I posted it to Mego Museum and thought people here would enjoy seeing it:

http://megomuseum.com/community/showthread.php?t=5374&goto=newpost

Sometimes though the forum can be hard to load when it's busy. Here's a direct picture link:

http://reboxyourmego.com/apefmshare.jpg

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In a message dated 11/1/2007 1:24:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

If you do have the makeup, does it take forever to put on

It's simple enough to apply some surgical glue and stick it on.

That takes less than 20 mins.  But stippling the edges along

the line of demarcation and then blending the makeup to

match . . . and don't even get me started on hair.  That's

a whole other kettle of fish.  Once you have it on you're

torn between conflicting urges  -- the main wan being

the desire to rip it all from your face.  After that you

start remembering all the time and trouble it took

and you want to leave it on as long as you can

stand it, or at least until it begins to fall off of

it's own accord -- even sleep in it and touch

up whatever damage the nightmares have

caused.  And Kim could have told you

about the nightmares -- of turning into

a chimpanzee and loosing yourself.

It's enough to drive anyone mad!

Mad I tell you!!  Happy Halloween!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!

 

 

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I had wondered where I had seen William Windom's name other than
POTA,until I was sitting down the other night watching the 30th
Anniversary video set of The original Series Star Trek,each tape has
an introduction by a cast member,I have recently ''inherited'' lol the
full set,and in the tape which included the episode ''Squire Of
Gothos'',listed as playing Trelane,was William Windom.But the link
does not stop there as the role of Squire was originally going to be
offered to Roddy McDowall..but due to a difference of opinion between
those who were in the hot seat for putting this particular one
together..one wanted Roddy,the other favoured William..It was William
who was picked in the end

Brilliant..is it not funny how that one song suits so many different
groups ..the most memorable one being the opening scenes in the film A
Knight's Tale,and now the Apes have a go..my workmates wondered what I
was laughing at when I viewed it..

> I had wondered where I had seen William Windom's name other than
> POTA,until I was sitting down the other night watching the 30th
> Anniversary video set of The original Series Star Trek,each tape has
> an introduction by a cast member,I have recently ''inherited'' lol the
> full set,and in the tape which included the episode ''Squire Of
> Gothos'',listed as playing Trelane,was William Windom.

William Windom did *not* play Trelane, but he was in an episode of
"Star Trek." Windom played Commodore Decker in "The Doomsday
Machine."

Trelane was played by William Campbell.

Hunter

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Yes Hunter,my apologies....it was Decker he played and not
Trelane,then again I had been watching both at the time,one after the
other,but Roddy had been shortlisted for Trelane,so at least I got
that bit right lol..I know me got them mixed up in my initial entry..I
was actually writing an amendment to my first entry I had sent,but you
got there before me ....

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In a message dated 11/2/2007 7:08:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, goathunter@... writes:

William Windom did *not* play Trelane, but he was in an episode of
"Star Trek." Windom played Commodore Decker in "The Doomsday
Machine."

Trelane was played by William Campbell.

 

Thanks, I was just about to say the same thing.

 

 

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On 11/2/07, LordTZer0@... <LordTZer0@...> wrote:

In a message dated 11/1/2007 1:24:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

If you do have the makeup, does it take forever to put on

It's simple enough to apply some surgical glue and stick it on.

That takes less than 20 mins.  But stippling the edges along

the line of demarcation and then blending the makeup to

match . . . and don't even get me started on hair.  That's

a whole other kettle of fish.  Once you have it on you're

torn between conflicting urges  -- the main wan being

the desire to rip it all from your face.  After that you

start remembering all the time and trouble it took

and you want to leave it on as long as you can

stand it, or at least until it begins to fall off of

it's own accord -- even sleep in it and touch

up whatever damage the nightmares have

caused.  And Kim could have told you

about the nightmares -- of turning into

a chimpanzee and loosing yourself.

It's enough to drive anyone mad!

Mad I tell you!!  Happy Halloween!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!

 

 

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Another film that Roddy is in that I LOVE, and is not available on DVD,
is the critically panned SCAVENGER HUNT. I don't care what anyone says,
it is one of the funniest movies ever. Great ensemble cast, and it also
contains one of my favorite jokes. When Roddy's group steals a toilet
from an upscale hotel, and are confronted by security who ask "Why are
you taking the toilet?" They pretend to be repairmen and state "We have
to check the timing in the turbo flush!"

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In a message dated 11/2/2007 10:13:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, cuddybuddy69@... writes:

Yes Hunter,my apologies... .it was Decker he played and not
Trelane

 

Speaking of Trelane . . .

An interesting side note.  This name did not

exist before the birth of the daughter of a friend

of my mother's, who lived in LA.  She visited the

set of Star Trek and got her picture taken with

Shatner and Nimoy and not too long after that

her name turned up as main character in the

Squire Of Gothos episode.  I imagine there

may have been a child or two named Trelane

since then, but you'd have to look hard for them.

 

 

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In a message dated 11/2/2007 11:57:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

Don't know how that will look under chimp makeup...

I always heard that Asians make the best chimps.

I recall from pictures that one of the actors was Asian.

 

 

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In a message dated 11/2/2007 11:57:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

So basically, you will need an assistant to assist with the hair then...

 

You can apply it yourself

though help makes it easier

especially if you go to the trouble

of adding the individual hairs to

blend in.  That has to be done a

few at a time and takes a while.

I have some pics somewhere.

No doubt they'll turn up when I

move.

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In a message dated 11/2/2007 11:57:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

And how do you remove it, after you use surgical glue? 

 

The same people that make the glue

also make the remover.  You have to

peal it back slowly or you may take

the skin with it.

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Whilst it's only currently available on bootleg dvd, Roddy is truly
excellent in The Fantastic Journey, a 10 episode time travel series
from the late 70s.His performances are a subtle mix of humour, menace,
sympathy and authority and it makes me mad that he wasn't allowed to
have the time to fully flesh out Galen in the Apes series, because
Roddy would have created a legend.John, Scrolls.

>
> Another film that Roddy is in that I LOVE, and is not available on

DVD,

> is the critically panned SCAVENGER HUNT. I don't care what anyone

says,

> it is one of the funniest movies ever. Great ensemble cast, and it

also

> contains one of my favorite jokes. When Roddy's group steals a toilet
> from an upscale hotel, and are confronted by security who ask "Why

are

> you taking the toilet?" They pretend to be repairmen and state "We

have

> to check the timing in the turbo flush!"
>

Was a great show I suggest you all check it out.

Robert Mansell

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From: Jeff K.
To: pota@yahoogroups. com ; PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:48 PM
Subject: [POTA] Tales of Roddy's "Monkey"

Tvshowsondvd is reporting a rumor that Roddy McDowall's series from the '80's, "Tales of the Gold Monkey" might be on DVD next year. It was kind of a cash-in on "Raiders of the Lost Ark" (like "Battlestar Galactica" tried to do with "Star Wars"). With a new Indie Jones movie next year, the theory is that it would be a good time to put out the whole show in a season set ( 20 episodes and the movie opener). For the link: http://www.tvshowso ndvd.com/ news/Tales- Gold-Monkey- Rumors/8315 . May all your monkeys be gold. Jeff

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In a message dated 11/3/2007 8:43:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, john@... writes:

Whilst it's only currently available on bootleg dvd, Roddy is truly
excellent in The Fantastic Journey, a 10 episode time travel series
from the late 70s.His performances are a subtle mix of humour, menace,
sympathy and authority and it makes me mad that he wasn't allowed to
have the time to fully flesh out Galen in the Apes series, because
Roddy would have created a legend.John, Scrolls.

I just watched the Fantastic Journey episode last night with Joan Collins and I must say Roddy was the best part of the show! Of course in those days Joan wasn't bad to look at but watching the kid in the series writhing on the floor as he was being poisoned to death was a little too much.

 

Bruce

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They'd never make a Cowboy president... Would they???

Dave

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