Very true, we have no choice but to change to a new format, when a
new one takes over. My point is, a new format won't take over unless
there is a good reason. Video Tapes for DVD= Good reasons, especially
now that we can record on them... Laser Disc didn't allow this, plus
they were too big! Super VHS for Regular VHS= Only offered a small
upgrade compared to Regular VHS, wasn't worth it! I think (Blueray)
may be like replacing Regular VHS with Super VHS.... Can you even
record on them???

Roberto

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

> As soon as the studios, for whatever reason, decide to stop making
the
> DVD format, people will change....
>
> > How
> > long was VHS tapes and Vinyl records around?
>
> Vinyl is actually enjoying a resurgence in popularity these days.
>
> Hunter
>

I'm also a fan Hunter of "Lost In Space." I've been watching the
season 2 boxsets, as you know they released two sets each for season
2 & 3. Also love "Star Trek", just didn't get it on DVD, but watch it
on TV Land almost every day. LIS is aired on TV once a week on
another station along with LOTG and Voyage. All are good shows, well
I like them!

Roberto

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > Well it is all very well doing rereleases on dvd's of the old
> > classics..but hopefully they will draw and line and not do the
> > original series of Lost In Space..somethings are best lost n
> > forgotten....Land Of The Giants was passable,then again compared
to
> > LIS,sticking forks in your legs sounds more fun lol
>
> All three seasons of LOST IN SPACE have been available on DVD for a
> long time.
>
> And I still enjoy them, dumb as many of them are.
>
> Hunter
>

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Somewhere I'd read that the lost footage from ESCAPE had been issued on a Laser Disc from Japan as well.    Can anyone verify that?   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: aboro3085 Date: 11/6/2007 3:14:38 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: Taylor's Flight   --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Roberto" <midnighthour07@ ...> wrote: I figured that since many POTA fans had Lost footage from "Battle" before it was released, maybe someone has this Lost footage from the first movie as well. I'm a huge Apes fan like I'm sure many here are, and will be open to trade anything Apes with other fans here. Reply to this message and e-mail me if you are interested in talking about a trade or if you know of any info on how we can find any edited footage from the POTA movie. Thanks! **** The reason that the BATTLE footage was so readily available before the DVD release of it here in the States is because the longer version of the movie was available on Laser Disc in Japan, and some collectors here bought that LD set from overseas. Add to that the fact that BATTLE in it's longer form aired on TV quite often. Both of those factors are why the "lost" BATTLE footage was easily obtained. As far as "lost footage" from PLANET, don't count on seeing any of that. At this time, I believe the only available "lost" stuff from PLANET is found in the NATO presentation, which is available on the 2 DVD set of the BEHIND documentary. There's the NATO stuff, and then there are a few dailies and out-takes with a bit of odd stuff on there too. My guess is that the shot on the card you're referring to is just that, a shot from the film, just as the shot of Zira and Lucius being stopped by the Hunt Club is a shot and the pregnancy footage exists on a few shots too. It's not like INKWORKS got access to a cut of the PLANET film and was able to take the Taylor shot from it. ****

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> My point is, a new format won't take over unless
> there is a good reason.

And my point is that the good reason is money. When the studios
decide that they've milked DVD for all they can, they'll stop
supporting it to make everybody re-buy everything on BluRay or HD DVD.

> I think (Blueray)
> may be like replacing Regular VHS with Super VHS.... Can you even
> record on them???

Yes, you can, but the hardware to do so is very expensive, still.

Hunter

Well Roberto,now you are talking..Star Trek is a different
ballgame.Why I even have me unifrom hanging up in the wardrobe lol.And
recently hit the biggie when I was presented with the full collection
of the 30th anniversay vids of the original series..quite a feat
watching that lot back to back,plus the full set of films and other
dvds n tapes too.

If any "lost" footage from ESCAPE existed on the Japanese Laser Disc,
it would have surfaced by now. It's not like anyone who has the
Japanese LD set is setting on it saying "We'll keep this stuff for
ourselves".

If any ESCAPE footage existed, don't you think it would have become
available from the LD owners when the "extended" BATTLE from Japan was
starting to surface?

The Japanese LD of BATTLE has been out for a long time, and if anything
else was on any of those LDs, it would have been circulated by now.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zach S" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:

Somewhere I'd read that the lost footage from ESCAPE had been issued on
a Laser Disc from Japan as well.

Can anyone verify that?

Anyone else seen season 2 episdoe 5 of 'Heroes' (Fight or Flight)

Did anyone else find the following scene familiar?

Matt Parkman and Nathan Petrelli. Two friends, (well, allies at least) are tricked into fighting
one another while under the influence of an illusion - supplied courtesy of a telepathic
'villain'.

Some of the fight takes place in a jail cell and we even get to see one of the characters with
their face pretty much peeling off!

What do you think - mere coincidence or not-so-subtle reference?

Dave

I have the Japan laserdisc and they are the same transfers as the
initial American laserdisc releases. The extended Battle transfer was
supposed to be released in the U.S. but sales of Escape and Conquest
on laserdisc were so dismal, and the Battle transfer (with the
extended footage) was so bad, Fox opted not to release it in the
states. They subsequently THX remasterd and released Battle on
laserdisc, but I don't know why they opted for the theatrical
version, instead of extended on that release...

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "aboro3085" <aboro3085@...> wrote:
>
> If any "lost" footage from ESCAPE existed on the Japanese Laser
Disc,
> it would have surfaced by now. It's not like anyone who has the
> Japanese LD set is setting on it saying "We'll keep this stuff for
> ourselves".
>
> If any ESCAPE footage existed, don't you think it would have become
> available from the LD owners when the "extended" BATTLE from Japan
was
> starting to surface?
>
> The Japanese LD of BATTLE has been out for a long time, and if
anything
> else was on any of those LDs, it would have been circulated by now.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zach S" <Zasco1957@> wrote:
>
> Somewhere I'd read that the lost footage from ESCAPE had been
issued on
> a Laser Disc from Japan as well.
>
> Can anyone verify that?
>

That's what I said, I'm just glad that you, as an owner of the Japanese
Laser Discs could confirm that for me.

The only thing I ever heard about the Japanese LD of ESCAPE was that it
is supposed to be in *stereo*, and on one of the other groups I "think"
someone said the Goldsmith score is available on a seperate track so
you can listen to it independently from the film. I don't know if I
believe those claims either. Can you confirm or deny them?

(BTW: Both of these rumors are about the first release of the Japanese
LD of ESCAPE, not the later issue that I think has the same jacket as
the "EVOLUTION" DVD box set DVD and it's LD release of the film from
the same time.)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:

I have the Japan laserdisc and they are the same transfers as the
initial American laserdisc releases.

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In Uncle John Plunges into Hollywood

they were talking about The Home.  It

mentioned Roddy's Rose Garden and

another Ape Man, Tarzan.  Johnny

Weissmuller used to keep the other

residents up at night by doing his

yodeling yell down the halls.  So

they bought him a house in Mexico

and provided him care for the rest

of his life, and the rest of everyone

else in The Home, which they could

now get. We Take Care Of Our Own.

 

 

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In a message dated 11/12/2007 3:21:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, nzape@... writes:

Hunter, I tried to watch Lost In Space.

 

I want The Robot.  But if I had that kind of cash laying around doing

nothing, I'd have bought Dr. Zira's jacket and Mad Max's car to boot.

Unfortunately, my movie prop fundage doesn't run in the 10's of K's. 

 

The Genuine Lost In Space® B-9™ Robot at Hammacher Schlemmer

 

 

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For those who don't have them yet, Amazon is currently selling the
PotA TV Series for only $14.99 and Return to the PotA (the animated
series) for only $9.99.

Hunter

I passed on the "Evolution" laserdiscs once I saw Battle's running
time. The initial U.S. Escape release, and the Japan release are in
enhanced stereo - chase surround which is, if I'm correct, fake
stereo (someone who is more knowledgeable may want to elaborate.) I
just checked to make sure, there are no isolated Goldsmith tracks on
either the U.S. or Japan disc...

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "aboro3085" <aboro3085@...> wrote:
>
> That's what I said, I'm just glad that you, as an owner of the
Japanese
> Laser Discs could confirm that for me.
>
> The only thing I ever heard about the Japanese LD of ESCAPE was
that it
> is supposed to be in *stereo*, and on one of the other groups
I "think"
> someone said the Goldsmith score is available on a seperate track
so
> you can listen to it independently from the film. I don't know if I
> believe those claims either. Can you confirm or deny them?
>
> (BTW: Both of these rumors are about the first release of the
Japanese
> LD of ESCAPE, not the later issue that I think has the same jacket
as
> the "EVOLUTION" DVD box set DVD and it's LD release of the film
from
> the same time.)
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@> wrote:
>
> I have the Japan laserdisc and they are the same transfers as the
> initial American laserdisc releases.
>

Dave I would have to lean towards a verdict of not so subtle
reference..

The new mail order catalogue from Hammacher Schlemmer (sp) has a full-sized LIS robot replica for...$24,000 !!!

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 8:20 pm
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Roddy's Garbage and DVDs not yet among us.

Many many years ago I was working at a Nostalgia Convention in NY and Johnny was supposed to be the guest of honor...however he was at the stage where he was howling and doing the tarzan yell at inappropriate times (when is an appropriate time?) so they had to cancel his appearance...very sad.

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 1:12 am
Subject: [POTA] Roddy's Garden

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In a message dated 11/14/2007 4:55:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, stenosaurus@... writes:

The new mail order catalogue from Hammacher Schlemmer (sp) has a full-sized LIS robot replica for...$24,000 !!!

 

Yeah I know.  This is it.  The Genuine Lost In Space® B-9™ Robot at Hammacher Schlemmer

 

 

 

 

T

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OK Santa if you're listening that's 2 life-sized LIS robots....

Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 5:16 pm
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Roddy's Garbage and DVDs not yet among us.

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Thanks, my Apester friends, for the information regarding the "lost" footage in ESCAPE.   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: aboro3085 Date: 11/13/2007 5:03:59 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage   That's what I said, I'm just glad that you, as an owner of the Japanese Laser Discs could confirm that for me. The only thing I ever heard about the Japanese LD of ESCAPE was that it is supposed to be in *stereo*, and on one of the other groups I "think" someone said the Goldsmith score is available on a seperate track so you can listen to it independently from the film. I don't know if I believe those claims either. Can you confirm or deny them? (BTW: Both of these rumors are about the first release of the Japanese LD of ESCAPE, not the later issue that I think has the same jacket as the "EVOLUTION" DVD box set DVD and it's LD release of the film from the same time.) --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@ ...> wrote: I have the Japan laserdisc and they are the same transfers as the initial American laserdisc releases.

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Speaking of the Lawgiver, does anybody else think the inspiration for
the original, iconic, statue might have been Confucius--he certainly
looks like a wize old Chinaman.What are the chances of Sideshow doing
any more figures--wasn't there a rumour of new figures from another
company (Hasbro?can't remember, now).John, Scrolls.

>
> We love new members at "Save the Sideshow Apes", click on the
> attached address and then fill out the area marked register.
>
> http://sideshowcollectors.com/?
>
> Once registered, use search to find PLANET APES.
>
> Look forward to seeing over there also John.
>
> Mark ~AngelofMusic2112~
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> >
> > Great images.How do we join in with the 'save the sideshow apes'
> > campaign? I'm game.John, Scrolls.
> > >
> > >
> > > Just wanted to fixed some of the links.
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "angelofmusic2112"
> <angelofmusic2112@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Here is just SOME of the work I've been doing the past year...
> > > >
> > > > Conquest of the Planet of the Apes Figures page 131
> > > >
> > > >
> > > http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?
> > t=1982&highlight=pla\
> > > net+apes&page=131
> > > <http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?
> > t=1982&highlight=pl\
> > > anet+apes&page=131>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Alpha Omega Bomb page 132
> > > >
> > > >
> > > http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?
> > t=1982&highlight=pla\
> > > net+apes&page=132
> > > <http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?
> > t=1982&highlight=pl\
> > > anet+apes&page=132>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Frank the Gorilla page 135
> > > >
> > > >
> > > http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?
> > t=1982&highlight=pla\
> > > net+apes&page=135
> > > <http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?
> > t=1982&highlight=pl\
> > > anet+apes&page=135>
> > > >
> > > > Ape-o-nauts and Astonaut Dodge page 129
> > > >
> > > >
> > > http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?
> > t=1982&highlight=pla\
> > > net+apes&page=129
> > > <http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?
> > t=1982&highlight=pl\
> > > anet+apes&page=129>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Juliys with Mute Human, Battle POTA Mutant page 128
> > > >
> > > >
> > > http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?
> > t=1982&highlight=pla\
> > > net+apes&page=128
> > > <http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?
> > t=1982&highlight=pl\
> > > anet+apes&page=128>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ape Wagon, Mutant Bust, Lil Marcus, Elta, Ape Furniture, page
> 248
> > > >
> > > >
> > > http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?
> > t=1982&highlight=pla\
> > > net+apes&page=248
> > > <http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?
> > t=1982&highlight=pl\
> > > anet+apes&page=248>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Hight snickertown@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It's all about the Alpha Omega Bomb. You guys need to check
> this
> > > > thing out. It's amazing. ANG can tell you what page it's on.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >

I heard on PBS that they named the monkey after the character in
POTA2001.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071115072744.htm

-- Rory


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Semos lives!!!!! We are all DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!!! (or not....up to you to decide)

On Nov 15, 2007 3:37 PM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

I heard on PBS that they named the monkey after the character in
POTA2001.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071115072744.htm

-- Rory


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Actually, I think that's pretty cool! Apes entering the cultural race
memory yet again! Isn't it about time we had some new Apes on screen?
John, Scrolls.

>
> I heard on PBS that they named the monkey after the character in
> POTA2001.
>
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071115072744.htm
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>

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Reading through this weeks journal I found myself wondering...

"The ape evolved from a lower order of primate, possibly man."

What over orders of primate was Cornelius familiar with?

Gibbons? Baboons?

Dave

I would hazard to speculate, trying to stay close to Boulle's original
conception of the simian civilization, that all that Cornelius knew of
the natural world, outside of his own limited experience, he got from
books, or in the case of the films, scrolls. These scrolls would be
very ancient texts and, in fact, would be orangutan reinterpretations
of the surviving works of man. The ancient orangutans would have done
very much like what human monks did during the Dark Ages with earlier
Roman and Greek texts, only in this case with the substitution of
everything human to that of the simian. In this way, the wiser of the
orangs, perhaps the scholarly disciples of Virgil, could preserve some
of the knowledge gained by man and yet protect future generations from
culture shock if they knew the truth of their origins. So, Cornelius
and other academics, and the original film seems to imply that the
chimpanzee intellectuals were a relatively new phenomenon, having been
allowed to study some of these texts would have knowledge of other
animal species even though the creatures may no longer exist.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave B <smugster2000@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Nov 17 1:42 AM
Subject: [POTA] Re: Cornelius' Journal






Reading through this weeks journal I found myself wondering...



"The ape evolved from a lower order of primate, possibly man."



What over orders of primate was Cornelius familiar with?



Gibbons? Baboons?



Dave












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DAVE ASKED:
"The ape evolved from a lower order of primate, possibly man."
What over orders of primate was Cornelius familiar with?
Gibbons? Baboons?

Going by the licensed stories, here's an excerpt from my timeline:

In addition to the Great Apes (chimps, gorillas and orangutans), gibbons also gain sentience.
Planet of the Apes #13: "Terror on the Planet of the Apes The Magick-Man's Last Gasp
Purple Light Show" (MC-c)
 
Some mandrills attain intelligence as well.
Urchak's Folly #3: "Chapter Three The Savages" (AC-c)
 
So do the baboons in Europe. It's unclear if the same is true of North American baboons.
Ape City #1: "Monkey Business" (AC-c)
 
Other members of the primate kingdom-­baboons, Barbary apes (macaques), gibbons and lemurs­-are less open to accepting Ape City as the capital of the world and settle, instead, in the outlying areas. Among the chimps, orangutans and gorillas of Ape City, these other apes are considered “foreigners.”
Return to the Planet of the Apes episode #8: "Screaming Wings" (BB-n)
NOTE: This information comes from the novelization of the episode, entitled Return to the Planet of the Apes #3: Man, the Hunted Animal. Presumably, “foreigner” status also applies to mandrills, who are featured in Urchak's Folly as being sentient. As fan Dave Ballard points out, this might account for the existence of the Ape City army.
 
An air of aristocracy forms among the Great Apes, who think of themselves as above monkeys and other primates. The word “monkey” becomes an offensive racial slur among the apes.
Escape from the Planet of the Apes (FX-f)
 
In Europe, as in North America, chimps, orangutans, gorillas and baboons attain intelligence.
Ape City #1: "Monkey Business" (AC-c)

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And, for what it's worth, Krull tells Leo in Burton's masterpiece that
humans are just below monkey's on the eveolutionary scale, which I'd
agree with, apart from that Nesmith guy. John, Scrolls.

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In a message dated 11/19/2007 3:47:05 A.M. Central Standard Time, john@... writes:

humans are just below monkey's on the eveolutionary scale, which I'd
agree with, apart from that Nesmith guy.

Hey!  Nesmith was a fine musician,

but Peter Tork the only formally trained

musician in the Monkees. 

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Yaeh, I know, but wasn't Nesmith the only one who wouldn't reform the
band at first, and then changed his mind later when it was a roaring
success?That would put him somewhere near the Spice Girls on the
volutionary ladder. John, Scrolls.

>
>
> In a message dated 11/19/2007 3:47:05 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> john@... writes:
>
> humans are just below monkey's on the eveolutionary scale, which I'd
> agree with, apart from that Nesmith guy.
>
>
> Hey! Nesmith was a fine musician,
> but Peter Tork the only formally trained
> musician in the Monkees.
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's new at

http://www.aol.com

>

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In a message dated 11/19/2007 10:35:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, john@... writes:

Yaeh, I know, but wasn't Nesmith the only one who wouldn't reform the
band at first, and then changed his mind later when it was a roaring
success?That would put him somewhere near the Spice Girls on the
volutionary ladder. John, Scrolls.

 

Mike and his sister are the heirs to the Liquid Paper fortune.

His mother and his high school science teacher from Thomas

Jefferson invented it.  So he didn't have to have the band as a

cash cow.  He was the one who wanted to fire Boyce & Hart

and write their own stuff.  That flopped.  He was also the lone

hold out on the reunion tour and then played a couple shows

and bailed again.  I saw the Six Flags tour of Dolenz, Jones,

Boyce & Hart, arguably the least talented two Monkees,

and it was still a good show.  Yeah, Mike is a new money

snob.  Every year he holds a symposium at his compound

in New Mexico and tries to some the worlds problems. And

since the world still has problems maybe he'd be of more

use back in the band -- even a fake band like The Monkees.

 

 

 

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Are you talking about back in 1986?

Anyway, no Nesmith didn't change his mind when it became a roaring
success as you call it. In 1986 he was going to do the 20th
Anniversary Tour when they were scheduled to do a few dates in the
major cities (NYC, Dallas, LA, etc.) but when it turned into a whole
tour, he dropped out because he was running a company at the time
(Pacific Arts). He didn't do the other tours either for pretty much
the same reason (plus he was involved in a huge lawsuit with PBS over
video distribution which he eventually won.)

However, in 1996 he did record with the other guys for their 30th
Anniversary album called "JUSTUS"(in which the guys played and wrote
everything on the CD, which even 1967's "Headquarters can't claim).
He also did their tour of the UK in 1997 to promote "JUSTUS".

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Yaeh, I know, but wasn't Nesmith the only one who wouldn't reform
the
> band at first, and then changed his mind later when it was a
roaring
> success?That would put him somewhere near the Spice Girls on the
> volutionary ladder. John, Scrolls.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/19/2007 3:47:05 A.M. Central Standard
Time,
> > john@ writes:
> >
> > humans are just below monkey's on the eveolutionary scale, which
I'd
> > agree with, apart from that Nesmith guy.
> >
> >
> > Hey! Nesmith was a fine musician,
> > but Peter Tork the only formally trained
> > musician in the Monkees.
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** See what's new at
> http://www.aol.com
> >
>

I stand corrected on this important issue. John, Scrolls.

>
> Are you talking about back in 1986?
>
> Anyway, no Nesmith didn't change his mind when it became a roaring
> success as you call it. In 1986 he was going to do the 20th
> Anniversary Tour when they were scheduled to do a few dates in the
> major cities (NYC, Dallas, LA, etc.) but when it turned into a

whole

> tour, he dropped out because he was running a company at the time
> (Pacific Arts). He didn't do the other tours either for pretty much
> the same reason (plus he was involved in a huge lawsuit with PBS

over

> video distribution which he eventually won.)
>
> However, in 1996 he did record with the other guys for their 30th
> Anniversary album called "JUSTUS"(in which the guys played and

wrote

> everything on the CD, which even 1967's "Headquarters can't claim).
> He also did their tour of the UK in 1997 to promote "JUSTUS".
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> >
> > Yaeh, I know, but wasn't Nesmith the only one who wouldn't reform
> the
> > band at first, and then changed his mind later when it was a
> roaring
> > success?That would put him somewhere near the Spice Girls on the
> > volutionary ladder. John, Scrolls.
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/19/2007 3:47:05 A.M. Central Standard
> Time,
> > > john@ writes:
> > >
> > > humans are just below monkey's on the eveolutionary scale,

which

> I'd
> > > agree with, apart from that Nesmith guy.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey! Nesmith was a fine musician,
> > > but Peter Tork the only formally trained
> > > musician in the Monkees.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ************************************** See what's new at
> > http://www.aol.com
> > >
> >
>

Ghostbusters is going to come back as a big computer game,
apparently.If The Godfather and Scarface can find new life as computer
games, surely there must be scope for Apes? Just imagine the potential
of a new movie and new game--both done right.Marvel's Halo comic tie-in
to the computer game of that name shows that cross media launches might
be the future.John, Scrolls.

If the films came out now there would most likely have been a game released with each film. I always thought it would be cool to have a game that brought the player through each one of the five films. Or maybe a game based on the TV series where you could choose to play as either Virdon, Burke or Galen.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Ghostbusters is going to come back as a big computer game,
> apparently.If The Godfather and Scarface can find new life as computer
> games, surely there must be scope for Apes? Just imagine the potential
> of a new movie and new game--both done right.Marvel's Halo comic tie-in
> to the computer game of that name shows that cross media launches might
> be the future.John, Scrolls.
>

This week is Thanksgiving in the US. A Holiday where we celebrate stealing land from Native Americans by overeating and watching football on a weekday rather than just on Sundays.

I've always wondered what Holidays the Apes had. We know they has 'Aldo Day' but I'm not sure that's what they called it. I would bet they celebrated the Lawgiver's Birthday (most likely a three day weekend when all the wagon dealers had big sales to get rid of last year's models).

Since the Ape culture was based on the Human culture that preceded, did they Apes have their own versions of Thanksgiving, Christmas, Passover, Fourth of July, etc.?

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----- Original Message -----

From: James

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:25 AM

Subject: [POTA] Ape Holidays

This week is Thanksgiving in the US. A Holiday where we celebrate stealing land from Native Americans by overeating and watching football on a weekday rather than just on Sundays.

I've always wondered what Holidays the Apes had. We know they has 'Aldo Day' but I'm not sure that's what they called it. I would bet they celebrated the Lawgiver's Birthday (most likely a three day weekend when all the wagon dealers had big sales to get rid of last year's models).

Since the Ape culture was based on the Human culture that preceded, did they Apes have their own versions of Thanksgiving, Christmas, Passover, Fourth of July, etc.?

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>
> Since the Ape culture was based on the Human culture that preceded,

did

> they Apes have their own versions of Thanksgiving,
>

Yes. But they stuffed Dodge instead of the Turkey....

Brendan.

I thought that issue was pretty well done. I re-read
it on occassion.
--- "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

> They had "kind of" a Christmas in an issue of the
> Adventure comics, which had "kind of" an ape Santa
> Claus on the cover. Every Christmas I display that
> issue and it was the inspiration for my own POTA
> Christmas cards. It was issue # 8. I'm sure many
> would sniff at that, but it's only "official" Ape
> story I can think of that touches on a holiday.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:25 AM
> Subject: [POTA] Ape Holidays
>
>
>
> This week is Thanksgiving in the US. A Holiday
> where we celebrate stealing land from Native
> Americans by overeating and watching football on a
> weekday rather than just on Sundays.
>
> I've always wondered what Holidays the Apes had.
> We know they has 'Aldo Day' but I'm not sure that's
> what they called it. I would bet they celebrated the
> Lawgiver's Birthday (most likely a three day weekend
> when all the wagon dealers had big sales to get rid
> of last year's models).
>
> Since the Ape culture was based on the Human
> culture that preceded, did they Apes have their own
> versions of Thanksgiving, Christmas, Passover,
> Fourth of July, etc.?
>
>
>

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Hmm ,with my line of thinking;surely birthdays and New Year would be
big celebrations for the Apes..in the first instance they would gather
round singing ;''Apey Birthday''..and in the second case wish each
other ;''Apey New Year''

It's a remote link, but did I once read somewhere that The Liberator
episode of the tv series had been intended to be a Thanksgiving
weekend episode, hence the 'you sure didn't make history John Smith'
line from Virdon to Burke, when the latter fails to charm her.What do
the Native Indians call Thanksgiving, I wonder? Maybe 'D'oh! Day'?
John, Scrolls.

>
> They had "kind of" a Christmas in an issue of the Adventure

comics, which had "kind of" an ape Santa Claus on the cover. Every
Christmas I display that issue and it was the inspiration for my own
POTA Christmas cards. It was issue # 8. I'm sure many would sniff at
that, but it's only "official" Ape story I can think of that touches
on a holiday.

>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:25 AM
> Subject: [POTA] Ape Holidays
>
>
>
> This week is Thanksgiving in the US. A Holiday where we celebrate

stealing land from Native Americans by overeating and watching
football on a weekday rather than just on Sundays.

>
> I've always wondered what Holidays the Apes had. We know they

has 'Aldo Day' but I'm not sure that's what they called it. I would
bet they celebrated the Lawgiver's Birthday (most likely a three day
weekend when all the wagon dealers had big sales to get rid of last
year's models).

>
> Since the Ape culture was based on the Human culture that

preceded, did they Apes have their own versions of Thanksgiving,
Christmas, Passover, Fourth of July, etc.?

>

>Posted by: "shanter2002" john@... shanter2002
>Date: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:44 am ((PST))
>I stand corrected on this important issue. John, Scrolls.

I guess he isn't monkee-ing around.

>Posted by: "Jeff K." veetus@... damndirty68
>They had "kind of" a Christmas in an issue of the Adventure comics,
>which had "kind of" an ape Santa Claus on the cover. Every Christmas
>I display that issue and it was the inspiration for my own POTA
>Christmas cards. It was issue # 8. I'm sure many would sniff at
>that, but it's only "official" Ape story I can think of that touches
>on a holiday.

Ha! You beat me to it--I was just going to say that. Yep, their
Santa is Travellin' Jack, a rotund, jolly ape who rides around on a
horse-drawn cart full of gifts. Each year, Jack travels the world,
seeing sights and collecting items of interest, then visits Ape City
to share his findings. I know this isn't a popular sentiment, but I
love that ol' Adventure Comics series.

>Posted by: "brendan486" nzape@... brendan486
>Yes. But they stuffed Dodge instead of the Turkey....

RTOFL!

Now if this is the future of the next format, I do see a reason for it!  I do agree with Hunter, his point being, it's a money issue in releasing a new format, I just wanted there to be more of a good reason, like dvds replacing video tapes..... The Blueray/HD DVD holds alot more space, the Star Trek set takes advantage of this, and in reply to Bobby (cuddybuddy69)...... Did you see the new release (Nov 20) of season 1 of the original STAR TREK series???  The HD DVD format boxset just released the 1st sea with new interactive pop ups & effects!!!  All the episodes were remastered with effects as if the show was released today.  Maybe one day soon we will see something like this done for all 5 Ape movies & the TV series, how cool would that be???   I copied the page from Amazon, which also has a 8 minute trailer for this new dvd set.  If it doesn't work here, just go to Amazon:

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bobby Smyth" <cuddybuddy69@...> wrote:
>
> Well Roberto,now you are talking..Star Trek is a different
> ballgame.Why I even have me unifrom hanging up in the wardrobe lol.And
> recently hit the biggie when I was presented with the full collection
> of the 30th anniversay vids of the original series..quite a feat
> watching that lot back to back,plus the full set of films and other
> dvds n tapes too.
>

Yes Roberto I had seen this earlier,that they were bringing out season
1 remastered with modern CGIs.But perhaps I am too much of a
puritan....I rarely watch films which are remakes of earlier films
lol,let alone watch a remastered version of a classic.In my opinion,I
feel leave well alone is how it should be.

When Lucas messed about with Star Wars,'improving' the special effects,
he tore the soul out of it for me because, suddenly, you were really
noticing the special effects as special effects--my suspension of
disbelief was gone and the illusion shattered.I, personally, wouldn't
want any of the movies or tv series tampered with other than to clean
them up, but, being an Apes Zombie, I'd still buy whatever new set they
put out. John, Scrolls.

>
> Yes Roberto I had seen this earlier,that they were bringing out

season

> 1 remastered with modern CGIs.But perhaps I am too much of a
> puritan....I rarely watch films which are remakes of earlier films
> lol,let alone watch a remastered version of a classic.In my opinion,I
> feel leave well alone is how it should be.
>

> When Lucas messed about with Star Wars,'improving' the special effects,
> he tore the soul out of it for me because, suddenly, you were really
> noticing the special effects as special effects--my suspension of
> disbelief was gone and the illusion shattered.

Agreed. I have to say, though, that the Star Trek episodes (which I
know you wouldn't watch anyway) are very tastefully done (at least the
ones I've seen). Nothing like the changes that Lucas made to the Star
Wars films.

Hunter

Very true Hunter. The episode with William Windom just ran on Sunday night and the updated effects really enhance the show.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > When Lucas messed about with Star Wars,'improving' the special effects,
> > he tore the soul out of it for me because, suddenly, you were really
> > noticing the special effects as special effects--my suspension of
> > disbelief was gone and the illusion shattered.
>
> Agreed. I have to say, though, that the Star Trek episodes (which I
> know you wouldn't watch anyway) are very tastefully done (at least the
> ones I've seen). Nothing like the changes that Lucas made to the Star
> Wars films.
>
> Hunter
>

Well, yes, they certainly could improve on Star Trek by just releasing
a set of erased discs.John, Scrolls.

>
> > When Lucas messed about with Star Wars,'improving' the special

effects,

> > he tore the soul out of it for me because, suddenly, you were really
> > noticing the special effects as special effects--my suspension of
> > disbelief was gone and the illusion shattered.
>
> Agreed. I have to say, though, that the Star Trek episodes (which I
> know you wouldn't watch anyway) are very tastefully done (at least the
> ones I've seen). Nothing like the changes that Lucas made to the Star
> Wars films.
>
> Hunter
>

I've seen some of those remastered STAR TREKs and I don't like the new
CGI effects. They sometimes actually make the spaceships look MORE
fake. They're too well-lit for outer space or something. Anyway, for
someone my age, who saw these things when they were new, part of the
appeal of watching it now is so that I can time-travel back to the
sixties. To look at something that isn't the way it was back then
really spoils things.

As far as HD-DVD goes, I don't think that format will win. I'm betting
on Blu-ray, and it's still going to be nearly another two years before
I'll want to buy a player, and I think it'll be that long before we see
POTA in that format, and I wouldn't count on any remastering of effects
shots.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Smyth <cuddybuddy69@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Nov 22 6:27 AM
Subject: [POTA] Re: STAR TREK- New Set / Could "Apes" get this
treatment?






Yes Roberto I had seen this earlier,that they were bringing out season

1 remastered with modern CGIs.But perhaps I am too much of a

puritan....I rarely watch films which are remakes of earlier films

lol,let alone watch a remastered version of a classic.In my opinion,I

feel leave well alone is how it should be.












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"When Lucas messed about with Star Wars,'improving' the special
effects,
he tore the soul out of it for me because, suddenly, you were really
noticing the special effects as special effects--my suspension of
disbelief was gone and the illusion shattered.I, personally, wouldn't
want any of the movies or tv series tampered with other than to clean
them up, but, being an Apes Zombie, I'd still buy whatever new set they
put out. John, Scrolls."

Yeah, this I agree with. Clean up the movies as much as possible but
otherwise leave them alone. As much as I'd like to see CGI put the
hatch back in place when we first see the exterior of the spaceship in
PLANET, or make the final matte shot look better, or a redo of the
not-so-great matte painting of a ruined NYC in BENEATH, it just
wouldn't be the same movies.

-- Rory


____________

This may be sacrilege, and get me thrown off every Ape group, but
I've never actually been very impressed with the Liberty matte
painting at the end of Planet.There, I've said it.Please forgive me
if you can.John.

>
> "When Lucas messed about with Star Wars,'improving' the special
> effects,
> he tore the soul out of it for me because, suddenly, you were really
> noticing the special effects as special effects--my suspension of
> disbelief was gone and the illusion shattered.I, personally,

wouldn't

> want any of the movies or tv series tampered with other than to

clean

> them up, but, being an Apes Zombie, I'd still buy whatever new set

they

> put out. John, Scrolls."
>
> Yeah, this I agree with. Clean up the movies as much as possible

but

> otherwise leave them alone. As much as I'd like to see CGI put the
> hatch back in place when we first see the exterior of the spaceship

in

> PLANET, or make the final matte shot look better, or a redo of the
> not-so-great matte painting of a ruined NYC in BENEATH, it just
> wouldn't be the same movies.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:

>
> Well, yes, they certainly could improve on Star Trek by just

releasing

> a set of erased discs.John, Scrolls.
> >
>Here you watch it..that gets you minus points in my books..but then

I'd probably say the same about Star Wars lol

Well Rory,I see you n I both seem to be thinking along the same lines
lol..maybe we could gang up on John..him who thinks ST is better shon
as a set of blank discs...the heathen lol

This may be sacrilege, and get me thrown off every Ape group, but
I've never actually been very impressed with the Liberty matte
painting at the end of Planet. There, I've said it. Please forgive me
if you can.John.

You Bloody Bastard!!!!!

Yeah, I can see your point, but my problem with it is more related to
how the live action part of the shot had to be duped and how there's a
flutter as the camera pulls out of the zoomed in dupe. If they still
have the separate film elements that made up that composite shot -- I'm
talking the first generation negatives of Heston and Harrison on the
beach, and also the matte shot, they could digitally combine them now
and it would look a lot better. In fact, I wouldn't be too bothered by
that.

-- Rory


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I had a chance to see the theatrical release of The Menagerie.

It was quite good.  The updated music and FX shots were

good but still true to the original.  I'll enjoy seeing them

in place of the original shows.  Don't know about

buying it though.  Roddy is on an episode of

Combat right now.  Shades of The Longest

Day.  Strange he didn't pop up on Trek,

being familiar with working under makeup.

 

 

 

 

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:

>
> This may be sacrilege, and get me thrown off every Ape group, but
> I've never actually been very impressed with the Liberty matte
> painting at the end of Planet.

By today's standards I'd agree - but had you seen it in '68 your jaw
would have hit the floor along with everybody else. Back then, very
few cinema goers knew what a matte painting was, these days pretty
much everyone does.

Dave

Just checking out APE items on ebay, I see there are a few nice rare photos of Linda Harrison, one photo makes me question,  was she considered for the role of Morticia in the television show "The Addams Family" in the mid 60's??  I added the photo, it shows her in the Morticia Addams pose, with black dress and Morticia chair in background.  I never heard of any parts she went after and didn't get, besides the role of Sheriff Brody's wife in the movie "Jaws", anyone know of any others?

If pressed, that is the one shot I would really like to see tidied up
to be as good as it could have been at the time.As you say, even by
1960s standards, it could have been executed more smoothly.John,
Scrolls.

>
> This may be sacrilege, and get me thrown off every Ape group, but
> I've never actually been very impressed with the Liberty matte
> painting at the end of Planet. There, I've said it. Please forgive

me

> if you can.John.
>
> You Bloody Bastard!!!!!
>
> Yeah, I can see your point, but my problem with it is more related

to

> how the live action part of the shot had to be duped and how

there's a

> flutter as the camera pulls out of the zoomed in dupe. If they

still

> have the separate film elements that made up that composite shot --

I'm

> talking the first generation negatives of Heston and Harrison on

the

> beach, and also the matte shot, they could digitally combine them

now

> and it would look a lot better. In fact, I wouldn't be too

bothered by

> that.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>

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I saw the same pic and my jaw dropped....really a beautiful photo....I'm wondering if it just wasn't posed ala Carolyn Jones.....as opposed to being up for the role....either way it's a damn good photo!!

Tim

Roberto <midnighthour07@...> wrote:

Just checking out APE items on ebay, I see there are a few nice rare photos of Linda Harrison, one photo makes me question,  was she considered for the role of Morticia in the television show "The Addams Family" in the mid 60's??  I added the photo, it shows her in the Morticia Addams pose, with black dress and Morticia chair in background.  I never heard of any parts she went after and didn't get, besides the role of Sheriff Brody's wife in the movie "Jaws", anyone know of any others?

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My guess is that she wasn't considered for that role. I mean she would
have been around 18/19 when "The Addams Family" debuted in 1964. Far
too young to be a believable Morticia (even with makeup).

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Roberto" <midnighthour07@...> wrote:
>
>
> Just checking out APE items on ebay, I see there are a few nice rare
> photos of Linda Harrison, one photo makes me question, was she
> considered for the role of Morticia in the television show "The Addams
> Family" in the mid 60's?? I added the photo, it shows her in the
> Morticia Addams pose, with black dress and Morticia chair in
background.

Roddy McDowwel almost did pop up on Trek.

This Star Trek episode:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Squire_of_Gothos

was written with Roddy McDowwel in mind from Trelane. But, the "powers that be" wanted someone with a huskier build to play Trelane. It was believed that the combination of Trelane's foppish Liberace style demeaner combined with an actor of a slight build who already seemed a bit effeminate would equal gay.

I heard this from the guy that played Trelane himself, William Campbell. I used to go to Star Trek conventions in the 80's and he was at one I attended.

As much as I love William Campbell and how he played Trelane (and later on Captain Koloth) on Star Trek, I would've loved to have seen Roddy McDowwel's take on him. I would've loved for Roddy to have been on Star Trek in some capacity period.













I had a chance to see the theatrical release of The Menagerie.

It was quite good. The updated music and FX shots were

good but still true to the original. I'll enjoy seeing them

in place of the original shows. Don't know about

buying it though. Roddy is on an episode of

Combat right now. Shades of The Longest

Day. Strange he didn't pop up on Trek,

being familiar with working under makeup.

I saw the same pic and my jaw dropped....really a beautiful photo....I'm wondering if it just wasn't posed ala Carolyn Jones.....as opposed to being up for the role....either way it's a damn good photo!!

Tim

Roberto <midnighthour07@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Just checking out APE items on ebay, I see there are a few nice rare photos of Linda Harrison, one photo makes me question,  was she considered for the role of Morticia in the television show "The Addams Family" in the mid 60's??  I added the photo, it shows her in the Morticia Addams pose, with black dress and Morticia chair in background.  I never heard of any parts she went after and didn't get, besides the role of Sheriff Brody's wife in the movie "Jaws", anyone know of any others?

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Yes She was in Cocoon....


--- jose ramon <joseramonruizdiez@...> wrote:

> Was she in "Cocoon" ?
> This looks like a "book" photo. She is sooooo
> prettyyyy .....
>
> JR
>
> "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
> I saw the same pic and my jaw
> dropped....really a beautiful photo....I'm wondering
> if it just wasn't posed ala Carolyn Jones.....as
> opposed to being up for the role....either way it's
> a damn good photo!!
>
> Tim
>
> Roberto <midnighthour07@...> wrote:
> Just checking out APE items on ebay, I see there
> are a few nice rare photos of Linda Harrison, one
> photo makes me question, was she considered for the
> role of Morticia in the television show "The Addams
> Family" in the mid 60's?? I added the photo, it
> shows her in the Morticia Addams pose, with black
> dress and Morticia chair in background. I never
> heard of any parts she went after and didn't get,
> besides the role of Sheriff Brody's wife in the
> movie "Jaws", anyone know of any others?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you
> with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.

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http://www.keyetv.com/news/state/story.aspx?content_id=7a5c7f15-ae15-
4c4b-9567-090dafb0f8f7

I got a bit of a giggle out of this article. If you remember, I have
been researching the whereabouts of the chimp actor that played Baby
Milo in Escape. I really think she may be the "aunt" caregiver in the
facility at Bastrop.

"Try again, Jake. Next time take Kelly!"

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Hi ,didnt notice this site in link section ,but maybe it is and i didnt
notice? Anyway this is a nice site with photos of the ship ,on location
at Lake Powell ,AZ and sitting on the fox back lot in the prop dept, if
youve never seen this site its worth a look!!
http://www.cloudster.com/sets&vehicles/ApesShip/Stills/PofAstills.html"

Does this exist or has it been lost by the studio? My one big wish is
that this would feature as an extra on any further DVD/HD releases.
Surely the studio must have this version somewhere or at least could
offer an alternate, branching ending that cuts that cobbled final
speech out even if the more violent footage has been lost? Would
appreciate any info regarding the differences in this version. Does it
include an opening where an escaping gorilla is shot (this features in
the script, and novelisation/comic adaptation)? I've also seen a still
of this scene in Greene's excellent book.

Cheers in advance

Hi guys! I've got an update at https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/ courtesy
of my friends and contributors Dave Ballard, John Roche, Rob Reading
and Alan Maxwell - thanks for keeping the site alive and growing:)

All the older things that used to be on the index page have been moved
to their respective sections - and Dave, I LOVE the bookmarks (am
currently fighting the kids over them, but they'll NEVER get 'em,
haha!!)

Kassidy

Hi everyone,

Herewith as promised is my new POTA's Fan Fiction called `seaQuest on
the Planet of the Apes'.

Please have a read and let me know what you think.

And if you haven't already, you can read my first Fan
Fiction, `Resurrection of the Planet of the Apes' as well.

All the best.

Peter.

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----- Original Message -----

From: James

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:01 AM

Subject: [POTA] Simian Scrolls #14

On the group's Yahoo Home page (http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ pota/) is a preview of the cover of the next issue of Simian Scrolls. Issue #14 will be available in the next few weeks so please stay tuned for details on how to get a copy.

Also, there will be a special contest around the issue for POTA group members with some cool prizes.

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Thanks Peter!

James




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The cover is by a Japanese lady, Mayko, who is an astonishingly
talented artist--see www.mayko.net for more. I saw her work in a
magazine and she very kindly agreed to do us a cover.It's different
and it's also a bit of a nod to the Japanese love of POTA.It's not a
tribute to a 70s song about masturbating--that's next issue. John,
Scrolls.

>
> That's pretty cool. What's with the oriental theme? Turning

Japanese?

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:01 AM
> Subject: [POTA] Simian Scrolls #14
>
>
>
> On the group's Yahoo Home page

(http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/) is a preview of the
cover of the next issue of Simian Scrolls. Issue #14 will be
available in the next few weeks so please stay tuned for details on
how to get a copy.

>
> Also, there will be a special contest around the issue for POTA

group members with some cool prizes.

>

What they do not tell you in that report..cctv footage showed the
chimp actually cutting its way out using a pair of wire cutters,then
turning back over it's shoulder,head looking up at the camera
shouting;''Freedom'' then running away

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----- Original Message -----

From: shanter2002

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 1:04 AM

Subject: [POTA] Re: Simian Scrolls #14

The cover is by a Japanese lady, Mayko, who is an astonishingly
talented artist--see www.mayko.net for more. I saw her work in a
magazine and she very kindly agreed to do us a cover.It's different
and it's also a bit of a nod to the Japanese love of POTA.It's not a
tribute to a 70s song about masturbating- -that's next issue. John,
Scrolls.
>
> That's pretty cool. What's with the oriental theme? Turning
Japanese?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:01 AM
> Subject: [POTA] Simian Scrolls #14
>
>
>
> On the group's Yahoo Home page
(http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ pota/) is a preview of the
cover of the next issue of Simian Scrolls. Issue #14 will be
available in the next few weeks so please stay tuned for details on
how to get a copy.
>
> Also, there will be a special contest around the issue for POTA
group members with some cool prizes.
>

<.html

Going there now!!!! LOVE your website BTW!!!!

On 11/25/07, valwp <valwp@...> wrote:

Hi guys! I've got an update at https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/ courtesy
of my friends and contributors Dave Ballard, John Roche, Rob Reading
and Alan Maxwell - thanks for keeping the site alive and growing:)

All the older things that used to be on the index page have been moved
to their respective sections - and Dave, I LOVE the bookmarks (am
currently fighting the kids over them, but they'll NEVER get 'em,
haha!!)

Kassidy

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:

>
> Going there now!!!! LOVE your website BTW!!!!
>

Thanks, Bill:)

Kass

> On 11/25/07, valwp <valwp@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys! I've got an update at https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/

courtesy

> > of my friends and contributors Dave Ballard, John Roche, Rob

Reading

> > and Alan Maxwell - thanks for keeping the site alive and growing:)
> >
> > All the older things that used to be on the index page have been

moved

> > to their respective sections - and Dave, I LOVE the bookmarks (am
> > currently fighting the kids over them, but they'll NEVER get 'em,
> > haha!!)
> >
> > Kassidy
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> www.brokensea.net
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes at
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> http://www.brokensea.com and
>

On 11/26/07, valwp <valwp@...> wrote:

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> Going there now!!!! LOVE your website BTW!!!!
>
Thanks, Bill:)

Kass
> On 11/25/07, valwp <valwp@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys! I've got an update at https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/
courtesy
> > of my friends and contributors Dave Ballard, John Roche, Rob
Reading
> > and Alan Maxwell - thanks for keeping the site alive and growing:)
> >
> > All the older things that used to be on the index page have been
moved
> > to their respective sections - and Dave, I LOVE the bookmarks (am
> > currently fighting the kids over them, but they'll NEVER get 'em,
> > haha!!)
> >
> > Kassidy
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> www.brokensea.net
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes at
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> http://www.brokensea.com and
>

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and

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In a message dated 11/26/2007 3:05:06 A.M. Central Standard Time, john@... writes:

The cover is by a Japanese lady, Mayko

 

Ohhh . . . . She's a Japanese Brit.

I was wondering why she spelled her name with a Y.

Especially since the Japanese don't even have that

in their alphabet.  Normally it would be spelled Meiko.

 

ME i KO

 

 

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.html Love it,Kass. Hope to get going on more fanfic. Elaine


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Incredible stories there....Now I just wanna read and not work...

On 11/26/07, taebokitti@... <taebokitti@...> wrote:

Love it,Kass. Hope to get going on more fanfic. Elaine

---

Check out AOL Money Finance's list of the hottest products and top money wasters of 2007.

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and

.html Same here, rather read pota fanfic than work. Elaine


<.html

On 11/26/07, taebokitti@... <taebokitti@...> wrote:

Same here, rather read pota fanfic than work. Elaine

---

Check out AOL Money Finance's list of the hottest products and top money wasters of 2007.

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and

lets all go ape !!
--- Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:

> This is COOL!
> Sorry...Reading the POTA fan fic when I should be
> working....
> Last Day on POTA is INCREDIBLE!!!
>
>
> On 11/26/07, valwp <valwp@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com
> <pota%40yahoogroups.com>, "Bill Hollweg"
> > <billhollweg@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Going there now!!!! LOVE your website BTW!!!!
> > >
> > Thanks, Bill:)
> >
> > Kass
> > > On 11/25/07, valwp <valwp@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi guys! I've got an update at
> https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/
> > courtesy
> > > > of my friends and contributors Dave Ballard,
> John Roche, Rob
> > Reading
> > > > and Alan Maxwell - thanks for keeping the site
> alive and growing:)
> > > >
> > > > All the older things that used to be on the
> index page have been
> > moved
> > > > to their respective sections - and Dave, I
> LOVE the bookmarks (am
> > > > currently fighting the kids over them, but
> they'll NEVER get 'em,
> > > > haha!!)
> > > >
> > > > Kassidy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bill Hollweg
> > > Have Sword...
> > > Will Slay...
> > > Barbarian in need of Ale...
> > > Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> > > Bill Hollweg
> > > Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> > > www.brokensea.net
> > > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> > > http://www.brokensea.com and
> > > http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> > > Planet of the Apes at
> > > http://www.brokensea.com and
> > > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> > > http://www.brokensea.com and
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> www.brokensea.net
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes at
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> http://www.brokensea.com and
>

________________________

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In case anyone's interested (and wealthy):

 

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=52933&item=230194371236

 

Bruce

 

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Thanks everyone. Its nice to have some new Apes stuff to rumage through.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "valwp" <valwp@...> wrote:
>
> Hi guys! I've got an update at https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/ courtesy
> of my friends and contributors Dave Ballard, John Roche, Rob Reading
> and Alan Maxwell - thanks for keeping the site alive and growing:)
>
> All the older things that used to be on the index page have been
moved
> to their respective sections - and Dave, I LOVE the bookmarks (am
> currently fighting the kids over them, but they'll NEVER get 'em,
> haha!!)
>
> Kassidy
>

All the writers are talented.

Donna

>From: "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [POTA] new up to the TV series website
>Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:38:12 -0600
>
>Incredible stories there....Now I just wanna read and not work...
>
>On 11/26/07, taebokitti@... <taebokitti@...> wrote:
> >
> > Love it,Kass. Hope to get going on more fanfic. Elaine
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Check out AOL Money Finance's list of the hottest
>products<http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001>and
>top
> > money
>wasters<http://money.aol.com/top5/general/ways-you-are-wasting-money?NCID=aoltop00030000000002>of
>2007.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>--
>Bill Hollweg
>Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
>Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
>Bill Hollweg
>Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
>www.brokensea.net
>The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
>http://www.brokensea.com and
>http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
>Planet of the Apes at
>http://www.brokensea.com and
>Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
>http://www.brokensea.com and

It does look great Kass! Thanks !

Tim


Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:

Going there now!!!! LOVE your website BTW!!!!

On 11/25/07, valwp <valwp@yahoo. com> wrote:

Hi guys! I've got an update at https://pota.v. kassidyrae. com/ courtesy
of my friends and contributors Dave Ballard, John Roche, Rob Reading
and Alan Maxwell - thanks for keeping the site alive and growing:)

All the older things that used to be on the index page have been moved
to their respective sections - and Dave, I LOVE the bookmarks (am
currently fighting the kids over them, but they'll NEVER get 'em,
haha!!)

Kassidy

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea. net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokense a.com and
http://www.westlake films.co. uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokense a.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokense a.com and

---

Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.

thanks, everyone, for your comments, and especially about the fan
fiction - I love good POTA fan fiction, always. Tim, long time no
hear!

Just starting to watch the run of the tv series with one of my
daughters, who informs me Virdon and Burke look like Starsky & Hutch.
They've seen quite a bit of 70s tv via dvds.

Kass

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks everyone. Its nice to have some new Apes stuff to rumage
through.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "valwp" <valwp@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys! I've got an update at https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/
courtesy
> > of my friends and contributors Dave Ballard, John Roche, Rob
Reading
> > and Alan Maxwell - thanks for keeping the site alive and growing:)
> >
> > All the older things that used to be on the index page have been
> moved
> > to their respective sections - and Dave, I LOVE the bookmarks (am
> > currently fighting the kids over them, but they'll NEVER get 'em,
> > haha!!)
> >
> > Kassidy
> >
>

My Ben Stiller collection is sacrosanct--next to Steve Martin he's
the master of the minimalist school of comedy acting.Mayko worked for
scale on Scrolls--a heartfelt thankyou and an optional pic of Ballard
in the shower.Amazingly, she was content with just the thankyou.Takes
all sorts, I suppose. John, Scrolls.

>
> Going there now!!!! LOVE your website BTW!!!!
>
> On 11/25/07, valwp <valwp@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys! I've got an update at https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/

courtesy

> > of my friends and contributors Dave Ballard, John Roche, Rob

Reading

> > and Alan Maxwell - thanks for keeping the site alive and growing:)
> >
> > All the older things that used to be on the index page have been

moved

> > to their respective sections - and Dave, I LOVE the bookmarks (am
> > currently fighting the kids over them, but they'll NEVER get 'em,
> > haha!!)
> >
> > Kassidy
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> www.brokensea.net
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes at
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> http://www.brokensea.com and
>

Hey Val....did you get the pic of the "Go Ape" TV
poster I sent you?

Tim
--- valwp <valwp@...> wrote:

> thanks, everyone, for your comments, and especially
> about the fan
> fiction - I love good POTA fan fiction, always. Tim,
> long time no
> hear!
>
> Just starting to watch the run of the tv series with
> one of my
> daughters, who informs me Virdon and Burke look like
> Starsky & Hutch.
> They've seen quite a bit of 70s tv via dvds.
>
> Kass
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks everyone. Its nice to have some new Apes
> stuff to rumage
> through.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "valwp" <valwp@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi guys! I've got an update at
> https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/
> courtesy
> > > of my friends and contributors Dave Ballard,
> John Roche, Rob
> Reading
> > > and Alan Maxwell - thanks for keeping the site
> alive and growing:)
> > >
> > > All the older things that used to be on the
> index page have been
> > moved
> > > to their respective sections - and Dave, I LOVE
> the bookmarks (am
> > > currently fighting the kids over them, but
> they'll NEVER get 'em,
> > > haha!!)
> > >
> > > Kassidy
> > >
> >
>
>
>

________________________

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----- Original Message -----

From: shanter2002

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:02 AM

Subject: [POTA] Re: new up to the TV series website

My Ben Stiller collection is sacrosanct-- next to Steve Martin he's
the master of the minimalist school of comedy acting.Mayko worked for
scale on Scrolls--a heartfelt thankyou and an optional pic of Ballard
in the shower.Amazingly, she was content with just the thankyou.Takes
all sorts, I suppose. John, Scrolls.
>
> Going there now!!!! LOVE your website BTW!!!!
>
> On 11/25/07, valwp <valwp@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys! I've got an update at https://pota.v. kassidyrae. com/
courtesy
> > of my friends and contributors Dave Ballard, John Roche, Rob
Reading
> > and Alan Maxwell - thanks for keeping the site alive and growing:)
> >
> > All the older things that used to be on the index page have been
moved
> > to their respective sections - and Dave, I LOVE the bookmarks (am
> > currently fighting the kids over them, but they'll NEVER get 'em,
> > haha!!)
> >
> > Kassidy
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> www.brokensea. net
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.brokense a.com and
> http://www.westlake films.co. uk
> Planet of the Apes at
> http://www.brokense a.com and
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> http://www.brokense a.com and
>

<.html

It's a close run thing, but I find Carsia funnier than Stiller.John,
Scrolls.

>
> Ben Stiller is also married to Marcia, Marcia, Marcia! Couldn't

you just die?! Some guys have everything. Topic: Um, "Brady Bunch"
ended just as POTA TV show began.Carsia this! Carsia that! Carsia,
Carsia, Carsia!

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: shanter2002
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:02 AM
> Subject: [POTA] Re: new up to the TV series website
>
>
> My Ben Stiller collection is sacrosanct--next to Steve Martin

he's

> the master of the minimalist school of comedy acting.Mayko worked

for

> scale on Scrolls--a heartfelt thankyou and an optional pic of

Ballard

> in the shower.Amazingly, she was content with just the

thankyou.Takes

> all sorts, I suppose. John, Scrolls.
> >
> > Going there now!!!! LOVE your website BTW!!!!
> >
> > On 11/25/07, valwp <valwp@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi guys! I've got an update at https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/
> courtesy
> > > of my friends and contributors Dave Ballard, John Roche, Rob
> Reading
> > > and Alan Maxwell - thanks for keeping the site alive and

growing:)

> > >
> > > All the older things that used to be on the index page have

been

> moved
> > > to their respective sections - and Dave, I LOVE the bookmarks

(am

> > > currently fighting the kids over them, but they'll NEVER

get 'em,

> > > haha!!)
> > >
> > > Kassidy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Have Sword...
> > Will Slay...
> > Barbarian in need of Ale...
> > Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> > www.brokensea.net
> > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> > http://www.brokensea.com and
> > http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> > Planet of the Apes at
> > http://www.brokensea.com and
> > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> > http://www.brokensea.com and
> >
>

Goob, quit changing my subject line like that! Yes, I know I screwed
it up.
I dislike Ben Stiller very much.
Tim, just sent you an email.
John... good grief. Have you taken your medication today?
Love
Kass

, --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

>
> Ben Stiller is also married to Marcia, Marcia, Marcia! Couldn't

you just die?! Some guys have everything. Topic: Um, "Brady Bunch"
ended just as POTA TV show began.Carsia this! Carsia that! Carsia,
Carsia, Carsia!

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: shanter2002
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:02 AM
> Subject: [POTA] Re: new up to the TV series website
>
>
> My Ben Stiller collection is sacrosanct--next to Steve Martin

he's

> the master of the minimalist school of comedy acting.Mayko worked

for

> scale on Scrolls--a heartfelt thankyou and an optional pic of

Ballard

> in the shower.Amazingly, she was content with just the

thankyou.Takes

> all sorts, I suppose. John, Scrolls.
> >
> > Going there now!!!! LOVE your website BTW!!!!
> >
> > On 11/25/07, valwp <valwp@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi guys! I've got an update at https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/
> courtesy
> > > of my friends and contributors Dave Ballard, John Roche, Rob
> Reading
> > > and Alan Maxwell - thanks for keeping the site alive and

growing:)

> > >
> > > All the older things that used to be on the index page have

been

> moved
> > > to their respective sections - and Dave, I LOVE the bookmarks

(am

> > > currently fighting the kids over them, but they'll NEVER

get 'em,

> > > haha!!)
> > >
> > > Kassidy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Have Sword...
> > Will Slay...
> > Barbarian in need of Ale...
> > Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> > www.brokensea.net
> > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> > http://www.brokensea.com and
> > http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> > Planet of the Apes at
> > http://www.brokensea.com and
> > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> > http://www.brokensea.com and
> >
>

Ape Chronicles #23 had a really good merchandise review by some fruit
called Maxwell. In that issue is a copy of an advert for a
book, 'Ghastly Giggles.Planet of the Apes Goes Bananas!!!'.
It's 'loaded with stills' of 'those adorable apes' and has 'some of the
funniest ape dialogue you'll ever hear'(this was pre-Burton,
obviously).I've never seen this tome--anybody got it and can they
share? John, Scrolls.

I've got to admit, I take Kass' site for granted--it's like a mother
lode for info on the TV Series that I just dip into regularly, without
thinking about the time and effort that goes into maintaining it.So,
thanks Kass. One of my favourite bits is the newspaper clippings.One of
these mentions how the series had an initial guaranteed 13 episodes,
and would then be reviewed for ratings.I've often wondered how we
managed to get our fourteenth episode.The last one, Up Above, has the
feel of an end of term event--the shooting is sloppy--you can see place
markers on the floor early on--and Ron's hair looks longer and lighter
to me.It all feels a bit more relaxed and lighter, as if this was the
end, but how come this one and not 'The Liberator'? John, Scrolls.

>2a. Re: nude up to the TV series website
>Ben Stiller is also married to Marcia, Marcia, Marcia! Couldn't you
>just die?! Some guys have everything.

No doubt about it--she's hot.

>Topic: Um, "Brady Bunch" ended just as POTA TV show began.Carsia
>this! Carsia that! Carsia, Carsia, Carsia!

LOL! That's hilarious!

>Posted by: "shanter2002" john@... shanter2002
>It's a close run thing, but I find Carsia funnier than Stiller.John,

I find everyone funnier than Stiller. I find Dick Cheney funnier than Stiller.