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Group: pota Message: 43945 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/28/2007
Subject: Re: Ghastly Giggles
Group: pota Message: 43946 From: Mike Muse Date: 11/28/2007
Subject: Re: Ghastly Giggles
Group: pota Message: 43947 From: shanter2002 Date: 11/28/2007
Subject: Re: Ghastly Giggles
Group: pota Message: 43948 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/28/2007
Subject: Re: Ghastly Giggles
Group: pota Message: 43949 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/28/2007
Subject: Re: Ghastly Giggles
Group: pota Message: 43950 From: Mike Date: 11/28/2007
Subject: Re: Ghastly Giggles
Group: pota Message: 43951 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 11/28/2007
Subject: Fwd: [POTA] Ghastly Giggles
Group: pota Message: 43952 From: valwp Date: 11/29/2007
Subject: Re: Kass' Site and note to James
Group: pota Message: 43953 From: Rich Handley Date: 11/30/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 3834
Group: pota Message: 43954 From: Dave B Date: 11/30/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 3834
Group: pota Message: 43955 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/30/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 3834
Group: pota Message: 43956 From: James Date: 11/30/2007
Subject: Cornelius' Journal/Group Website
Group: pota Message: 43957 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2007
Subject: Re: Cornelius' Journal/Group Website
Group: pota Message: 43958 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2007
Subject: One of the best "Summer Movies"
Group: pota Message: 43959 From: Dave B Date: 11/30/2007
Subject: Re: Cornelius' Journal/Group Website
Group: pota Message: 43960 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/30/2007
Subject: Re: One of the best "Summer Movies"
Group: pota Message: 43961 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Boulle 1st Edition: $1000 smackers
Group: pota Message: 43962 From: shanter2002 Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: Boulle 1st Edition: $1000 smackers
Group: pota Message: 43963 From: shanter2002 Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: Ghastly Giggles
Group: pota Message: 43964 From: Rich Handley Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 3835
Group: pota Message: 43965 From: brendan486 Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: Boulle 1st Edition: $1000 smackers
Group: pota Message: 43966 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: Boulle 1st Edition: $1000 smackers
Group: pota Message: 43967 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: Boulle 1st Edition: $1000 smackers
Group: pota Message: 43968 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: POTA New Year's Eve Marathon on AMC
Group: pota Message: 43969 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: A question BENEATH me
Group: pota Message: 43970 From: Zach S Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: POTA New Year's Eve Marathon on AMC
Group: pota Message: 43971 From: Zach S Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: Boulle 1st Edition: $1000 smackers
Group: pota Message: 43972 From: Zach S Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: A question BENEATH me
Group: pota Message: 43973 From: James Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: One of the best "Summer Movies"
Group: pota Message: 43974 From: James Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: One of the best "Summer Movies"
Group: pota Message: 43975 From: James Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 3835
Group: pota Message: 43976 From: James Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: POTA New Year's Eve Marathon on AMC
Group: pota Message: 43977 From: James Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: A question BENEATH me
Group: pota Message: 43978 From: James Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: A question BENEATH me
Group: pota Message: 43979 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: One of the best "Summer Movies"
Group: pota Message: 43980 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/1/2007
Subject: Re: One of the best "Summer Movies"
Group: pota Message: 43981 From: Zach S Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: A question BENEATH me
Group: pota Message: 43982 From: shanter2002 Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: Boulle 1st Edition: $1000 smackers
Group: pota Message: 43983 From: shanter2002 Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: It's a Miracle!
Group: pota Message: 43984 From: shanter2002 Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Bigotry on the POTA
Group: pota Message: 43985 From: Shane Miller Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: One of the best "Summer Movies"
Group: pota Message: 43986 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: A question BENEATH me
Group: pota Message: 43987 From: James Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: A question BENEATH me
Group: pota Message: 43988 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: It's a Miracle!
Group: pota Message: 43989 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: Bigotry on the POTA
Group: pota Message: 43990 From: jessica rotich Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: It's a Miracle!
Group: pota Message: 43991 From: James Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: It's a Miracle!
Group: pota Message: 43992 From: Chris Lawless Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: New Lawgiver Head
Group: pota Message: 43993 From: Chris Lawless Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: Taylor's escape / HD DVD or Blueray???
Group: pota Message: 43994 From: Chris Lawless Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Subway Terror in NY
Group: pota Message: 43995 From: Chris Lawless Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage
Group: pota Message: 43996 From: Chris Lawless Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Holidays
Group: pota Message: 43997 From: Chris Lawless Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage
Group: pota Message: 43998 From: Chris Lawless Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: Stupid Gorillas
Group: pota Message: 43999 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage
Group: pota Message: 44000 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/2/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Holidays
Group: pota Message: 44001 From: drhasslein Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage
Group: pota Message: 44002 From: drhasslein Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage
Group: pota Message: 44003 From: drhasslein Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Smash poster
Group: pota Message: 44004 From: drhasslein Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Holidays
Group: pota Message: 44005 From: Bobby Smyth Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: Stupid Gorillas
Group: pota Message: 44006 From: James Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: It's a Miracle!
Group: pota Message: 44007 From: James Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage
Group: pota Message: 44008 From: Rich Handley Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 3837
Group: pota Message: 44009 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: Smash poster
Group: pota Message: 44010 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage
Group: pota Message: 44011 From: drhasslein Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage
Group: pota Message: 44012 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: Smash poster
Group: pota Message: 44013 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 3837
Group: pota Message: 44014 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Are you smarter than a 5 year old chimp?
Group: pota Message: 44015 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Holidays
Group: pota Message: 44016 From: jessica rotich Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: It's a Miracle!
Group: pota Message: 44017 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Updates on Hunter's site
Group: pota Message: 44018 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: Smash poster
Group: pota Message: 44019 From: James Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: It's a Miracle!
Group: pota Message: 44020 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: Updates on Hunter's site
Group: pota Message: 44021 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/3/2007
Subject: Re: Updates on Hunter's site
Group: pota Message: 44022 From: junglejom Date: 12/4/2007
Subject: Re: Subway Terror in NY
Group: pota Message: 44023 From: James Date: 12/4/2007
Subject: Re: Subway Terror in NY
Group: pota Message: 44024 From: junglejom Date: 12/4/2007
Subject: Re: Subway Terror in NY
Group: pota Message: 44025 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/4/2007
Subject: Re: Updates on Hunter's site
Group: pota Message: 44026 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/4/2007
Subject: Re: Subway Terror in NY
Group: pota Message: 44027 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/4/2007
Subject: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44028 From: branchbrood Date: 12/4/2007
Subject: WAS GONE BUT NOW I'M BACK
Group: pota Message: 44029 From: junglejom Date: 12/4/2007
Subject: Re: Subway Terror in NY
Group: pota Message: 44030 From: James Date: 12/5/2007
Subject: Re: Subway Terror in NY
Group: pota Message: 44031 From: Dave B Date: 12/5/2007
Subject: Re: WAS GONE BUT NOW I'M BACK
Group: pota Message: 44032 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/5/2007
Subject: Re: WAS GONE BUT NOW I'M BACK
Group: pota Message: 44033 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/5/2007
Subject: Re: WAS GONE BUT NOW I'M BACK
Group: pota Message: 44034 From: James Date: 12/5/2007
Subject: Re: WAS GONE BUT NOW I'M BACK
Group: pota Message: 44035 From: James Date: 12/5/2007
Subject: Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44036 From: James Date: 12/5/2007
Subject: Re: WAS GONE BUT NOW I'M BACK
Group: pota Message: 44037 From: shanter2002 Date: 12/5/2007
Subject: Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44038 From: Bobby Smyth Date: 12/5/2007
Subject: Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44039 From: Robin Medford Date: 12/5/2007
Subject: Hello there!!!!!!!!!!
Group: pota Message: 44040 From: easy come Date: 12/5/2007
Subject: Re: Hello there!!!!!!!!!!
Group: pota Message: 44041 From: jessica rotich Date: 12/5/2007
Subject: Re: Hello there!!!!!!!!!!
Group: pota Message: 44042 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/5/2007
Subject: Re: Hello there!!!!!!!!!!
Group: pota Message: 44043 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/5/2007
Subject: Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44044 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/5/2007
Subject: Where the Cornfield was...



Group: pota Message: 43945 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/28/2007
Subject: Re: Ghastly Giggles
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    Don't have one....but here's a pic...I've been looking for one for a long time.....!

    Tim

    shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:
    Ape Chronicles #23 had a really good merchandise review by some fruit
    called Maxwell. In that issue is a copy of an advert for a
    book, 'Ghastly Giggles.Planet of the Apes Goes Bananas!!!'.
    It's 'loaded with stills' of 'those adorable apes' and has 'some of the
    funniest ape dialogue you'll ever hear'(this was pre-Burton,
    obviously).I' ve never seen this tome--anybody got it and can they
    share? John, Scrolls.



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    Group: pota Message: 43946 From: Mike Muse Date: 11/28/2007
    Subject: Re: Ghastly Giggles
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    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
    >
    > Ape Chronicles #23 had a really good merchandise review by some
    fruit
    > called Maxwell. In that issue is a copy of an advert for a
    > book, 'Ghastly Giggles.Planet of the Apes Goes Bananas!!!'.
    > It's 'loaded with stills' of 'those adorable apes' and has 'some
    of
    the
    > funniest ape dialogue you'll ever hear'(this was pre-Burton,
    > obviously).I've never seen this tome--anybody got it and can they
    > share? John, Scrolls.
    >


    I'm new to this group, but I have been addicted to POTA since the
    early 70's, and I bought this booklet when it came out, I think it
    was around 1974. My memory is it had some very unique behind the
    scenes stills with captions added. I think it was about 4" x 6" in
    size. Unfortunately, it was lost when I left home for college years
    ago. I've never seen one since. According to the Sausville
    collectibles book, I think he placed a value of $175.00 on it back
    in 1998. Good luck finding one.
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    Group: pota Message: 43947 From: shanter2002 Date: 11/28/2007
    Subject: Re: Ghastly Giggles
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    It had 'unique behind the scenes stills'!? Fuck, we have GOT to track
    this down! John, Scrolls.
    >
    > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
    > >
    > > Ape Chronicles #23 had a really good merchandise review by some
    > fruit
    > > called Maxwell. In that issue is a copy of an advert for a
    > > book, 'Ghastly Giggles.Planet of the Apes Goes Bananas!!!'.
    > > It's 'loaded with stills' of 'those adorable apes' and has 'some
    > of
    > the
    > > funniest ape dialogue you'll ever hear'(this was pre-Burton,
    > > obviously).I've never seen this tome--anybody got it and can they
    > > share? John, Scrolls.
    > >
    >
    >
    > I'm new to this group, but I have been addicted to POTA since the
    > early 70's, and I bought this booklet when it came out, I think it
    > was around 1974. My memory is it had some very unique behind the
    > scenes stills with captions added. I think it was about 4" x 6" in
    > size. Unfortunately, it was lost when I left home for college
    years
    > ago. I've never seen one since. According to the Sausville
    > collectibles book, I think he placed a value of $175.00 on it back
    > in 1998. Good luck finding one.
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 43948 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/28/2007
    Subject: Re: Ghastly Giggles
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    I had that back in the mid-70s. I remember it wasn't all that funny,
    more corny and lame than anything. Believe me, if it had been anything
    worth keeping, I'd have kept it.

    -- Rory

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 8:03 am
    Subject: Re: [POTA] Ghastly Giggles






    Don't have one....but here's a pic...I've been looking for one for a
    long time.....!

    Tim

    shanter2002 wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: Ape
    Chronicles #23 had a really good merchandise review by some fruit
    called Maxwell. In that issue is a copy of an advert for a
    book, 'Ghastly Giggles.Planet of the Apes Goes Bananas!!!'.
    It's 'loaded with stills' of 'those adorable apes' and has 'some of
    the
    funniest ape dialogue you'll ever hear'(this was pre-Burton,
    obviously).I've never seen this tome--anybody got it and can they

    share? John, Scrolls.







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    Group: pota Message: 43949 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/28/2007
    Subject: Re: Ghastly Giggles
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    "I'm new to this group, but I have been addicted to POTA since the
    early 70's, and I bought this booklet when it came out, I think it
    was around 1974. My memory is it had some very unique behind the
    scenes stills with captions added. I think it was about 4" x 6" in
    size. Unfortunately, it was lost when I left home for college years
    ago. I've never seen one since. According to the Sausville
    collectibles book, I think he placed a value of $175.00 on it back
    in 1998. Good luck finding one."


    I remember it coming out more like in '75, but its main value was in
    seeing some stills from the movies, mostly from BATTLE unfortunately.
    $175 bucks seems ridiculous to me. I'd bet if you kept checking eBay
    it would turn up eventually.

    -- Rory



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    Group: pota Message: 43950 From: Mike Date: 11/28/2007
    Subject: Re: Ghastly Giggles
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    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
    >
    > >
    >
    > I remember it coming out more like in '75, but its main value was
    in
    > seeing some stills from the movies, mostly from BATTLE
    unfortunately.
    > $175 bucks seems ridiculous to me. I'd bet if you kept checking
    eBay
    > it would turn up eventually.
    >
    > -- Rory
    >
    >
    > I agree with you completely on this one, Rory. The captions were
    not that funny, and if you found one, and paid anywhere near $175,
    you would be highly disappointed. I guess Sausville was looking at
    the scarcity factor only, who knows.

    Mike
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 43951 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 11/28/2007
    Subject: Fwd: [POTA] Ghastly Giggles
    .html
    Attachments :
      .html This gorilla looks like he is enjoying his drink. Elaine



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      Group: pota Message: 43952 From: valwp Date: 11/29/2007
      Subject: Re: Kass' Site and note to James
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      John, I wish I knew why why why we had fourteen. I wish more that we
      had forty. Or so.

      So, why do you take the site for granted? Because, stop that. But you
      know what, that's fine, really, so long as you enjoy it. I know I do.
      The site is all about the contributions I get from people who want to
      share and who love the tv show as much as I do. Good stuff:)

      So when are you guys going to talk about the new Scrolls and tell us
      what we can look forward to?

      James, I've tried to answer your email twice but it's bouncing. What up?
      My address is the same, though. No mail bombs, puleez;)
      Kass

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
      >
      > I've got to admit, I take Kass' site for granted--it's like a mother
      > lode for info on the TV Series that I just dip into regularly,
      without
      > thinking about the time and effort that goes into maintaining it.So,
      > thanks Kass. One of my favourite bits is the newspaper clippings.One
      of
      > these mentions how the series had an initial guaranteed 13 episodes,
      > and would then be reviewed for ratings.I've often wondered how we
      > managed to get our fourteenth episode.The last one, Up Above, has the
      > feel of an end of term event--the shooting is sloppy--you can see
      place
      > markers on the floor early on--and Ron's hair looks longer and
      lighter
      > to me.It all feels a bit more relaxed and lighter, as if this was the
      > end, but how come this one and not 'The Liberator'? John, Scrolls.
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 43953 From: Rich Handley Date: 11/30/2007
      Subject: Re: Digest Number 3834
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      Kass, I hate to be one of those people who says "Me, too!" without
      really saying anything more significant than that, but regarding the
      praise of your site...Me, too!
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      Group: pota Message: 43954 From: Dave B Date: 11/30/2007
      Subject: Re: Digest Number 3834
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      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote:
      >
      > Kass, I hate to be one of those people who says "Me, too!" without
      > really saying anything more significant than that, but regarding the
      > praise of your site...Me, too!
      >

      Me three!
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      Group: pota Message: 43955 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/30/2007
      Subject: Re: Digest Number 3834
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         Me Yow!
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Dave B
      Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 5:40 AM
      Subject: [POTA] Re: Digest Number 3834

      --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Rich Handley <handleyr@.. .> wrote:
      >
      > Kass, I hate to be one of those people who says "Me, too!" without
      > really saying anything more significant than that, but regarding the
      > praise of your site...Me, too!
      >

      Me three!

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      Group: pota Message: 43956 From: James Date: 11/30/2007
      Subject: Cornelius' Journal/Group Website
      .html

      Another week and another entry of CORNELIUS' JOURNAL is now available. 

      To read the JOURNAL entry either click the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm

      On the Downloads page of the Group Website (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Downloads.htm) Movie Bookmarks created by the great Dave Ballard are now available.

      Thanks Dave!

      Also, the mirror of the Group Website has moved to a new home: www.PotaMediaArchive.com . Be sure to update your links.

      Have a great weekend everybody!

      Visit all the Group's special features including:

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      Group: pota Message: 43957 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2007
      Subject: Re: Cornelius' Journal/Group Website
      .html
      About the bookmarks: Isn't the "Beware the Beast Man..." thing the
      29th Scoll, Sixth Verse?

      -- Rory




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      Group: pota Message: 43958 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2007
      Subject: One of the best "Summer Movies"
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      While in Barnes & Noble the other day I looked at a book called
      "Flickipedia -- Pefect Films for Every Occasion, Holiday, Mood, Ordeal,
      and Whim" by Michael Atkinson and Laurel Shifrin. One of the chapters
      in the book lists the best "Summer Movies" and PLANET is on it.
      Because I thought what they wrote about POTA was so dead on I'm
      reproducing it here. Let's hear what you think.

      "PLANET OF THE APES (1968) -- Before there was 'the Summer Blockbuster'
      (a label that now describes a studio's box-office hopes rather than a
      film's actual success), there was the matinee movie, meant as a respite
      from summer heat for kids with nothing to watch at home (in the days
      before videos, DVDs, and the like) and brainpans overflowing with
      Marvel comics, Aurora models, and backyard G.I. Joe scenarios. This
      beautiful, conceptually fearless piece of American pulp remains
      resonant and unforgettable, but it also invokes memories of an entire
      decade of summers (what with its many sequels and frequent rereleases)
      for a lucky generation of kids, whose cerebellums are permanently
      branded with the image of Charlton Heston kneeling on the beach before
      the wrecked Statue of Liberty. Ah, to be lost on this 'desert planet'
      once more...."

      -- Rory


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      Group: pota Message: 43959 From: Dave B Date: 11/30/2007
      Subject: Re: Cornelius' Journal/Group Website
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      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
      >
      > About the bookmarks: Isn't the "Beware the Beast Man..." thing the
      > 29th Scoll, Sixth Verse?

      I was working from a script ('67 revised)...

      Cornelius crosses to Zaius, and takes a small book bound in black
      leather from the breast pocket of his tunic.

      ZAIUS
      Read it to him: the twenty third Scroll,
      ninth Verse.

      Cornelius thumbs through the book, finds the citation and reads aloud:

      Dave
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      Group: pota Message: 43960 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/30/2007
      Subject: Re: One of the best "Summer Movies"
      .html
      That is a good review....

      The original Planet was also named one of the best movies of 1968 in the current issue of Cinema Retro magazine......I think it was number 4!

      Tim

      Haristas@... wrote:
      While in Barnes & Noble the other day I looked at a book called
      "Flickipedia -- Pefect Films for Every Occasion, Holiday, Mood, Ordeal,
      and Whim" by Michael Atkinson and Laurel Shifrin. One of the chapters
      in the book lists the best "Summer Movies" and PLANET is on it.
      Because I thought what they wrote about POTA was so dead on I'm
      reproducing it here. Let's hear what you think.

      "PLANET OF THE APES (1968) -- Before there was 'the Summer Blockbuster'
      (a label that now describes a studio's box-office hopes rather than a
      film's actual success), there was the matinee movie, meant as a respite
      from summer heat for kids with nothing to watch at home (in the days
      before videos, DVDs, and the like) and brainpans overflowing with
      Marvel comics, Aurora models, and backyard G.I. Joe scenarios. This
      beautiful, conceptually fearless piece of American pulp remains
      resonant and unforgettable, but it also invokes memories of an entire
      decade of summers (what with its many sequels and frequent rereleases)
      for a lucky generation of kids, whose cerebellums are permanently
      branded with the image of Charlton Heston kneeling on the beach before
      the wrecked Statue of Liberty. Ah, to be lost on this 'desert planet'
      once more...."

      -- Rory

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      Group: pota Message: 43961 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/1/2007
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       Ebay Item # 320152200122, a first edition original French edition of Boulle's book that started it all. Says only 1500 of that first edition. A Buy It Now of $999.99. Can you put a price on history?
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      Group: pota Message: 43962 From: shanter2002 Date: 12/1/2007
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      It would be a privilege to see that, let alone own it.I still think
      that the hunt scene in Boulle is the single most elecrifying passage in
      the Apes canon.Simply brilliant.Has there ever been any hint of the
      existence of earler drafts by Boulle? It would be really cool if,
      rather than a DVD, somebody issued a 'director's cut' definitive
      edition of Monkey Planet for the movie's 40th--especially as the book's
      40th passed almost unnoticed.Thiongs like earlier drafts, covers, a
      biography and the legacy of the book would make a great read.John,
      Scrolls.
      >
      > Ebay Item # 320152200122, a first edition original French edition of
      Boulle's book that started it all. Says only 1500 of that first
      edition. A Buy It Now of $999.99. Can you put a price on history?
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 43963 From: shanter2002 Date: 12/1/2007
      Subject: Re: Ghastly Giggles
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      I should also have pointed out, on safety grounds, that Jeff's
      memorabilia article in Ape Chronicles #23 is evidence of the dangers
      of drinking too much coffee before you sit down to write an
      article.Aren't we also long overdue on an updated collector's guide
      for Apes? John, Scrolls.
      >
      > "I'm new to this group, but I have been addicted to POTA since the
      > early 70's, and I bought this booklet when it came out, I think it
      > was around 1974. My memory is it had some very unique behind the
      > scenes stills with captions added. I think it was about 4" x 6" in
      > size. Unfortunately, it was lost when I left home for college years
      > ago. I've never seen one since. According to the Sausville
      > collectibles book, I think he placed a value of $175.00 on it back
      > in 1998. Good luck finding one."
      >
      >
      > I remember it coming out more like in '75, but its main value was
      in
      > seeing some stills from the movies, mostly from BATTLE
      unfortunately.
      > $175 bucks seems ridiculous to me. I'd bet if you kept checking
      eBay
      > it would turn up eventually.
      >
      > -- Rory
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 43964 From: Rich Handley Date: 12/1/2007
      Subject: Re: Digest Number 3835
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      >Posted by: "Dave B" smugster2000@... smugster2000
      > > About the bookmarks: Isn't the "Beware the Beast Man..." thing the
      > > 29th Scoll, Sixth Verse?
      >I was working from a script ('67 revised)...
      >Cornelius crosses to Zaius, and takes a small book bound in black
      > leather from the breast pocket of his tunic.
      > ZAIUS
      > Read it to him: the twenty third Scroll,
      > ninth Verse.
      > Cornelius thumbs through the book, finds the citation and
      > reads aloud:


      Interesting....that was apparently changed to the 29th Scroll, 6th
      Verse, which is how it's referred to onscreen.
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      Group: pota Message: 43965 From: brendan486 Date: 12/1/2007
      Subject: Re: Boulle 1st Edition: $1000 smackers
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      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
      >
      > Ebay Item # 320152200122, a first edition original French edition
      of Boulle's book that started it all. Says only 1500 of that first
      edition. A Buy It Now of $999.99. Can you put a price on history?
      >

      Yes... And that is too high.
      Brendan.
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      Group: pota Message: 43966 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/1/2007
      Subject: Re: Boulle 1st Edition: $1000 smackers
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         Yes, but in about 5 years the book will be 50. And 2012 will mark the centennial of Boulle's birth. He was about 50 when he wrote the book. Jeff
       
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      Subject: [POTA] Re: Boulle 1st Edition: $1000 smackers

      It would be a privilege to see that, let alone own it.I still think
      that the hunt scene in Boulle is the single most elecrifying passage in
      the Apes canon.Simply brilliant.Has there ever been any hint of the
      existence of earler drafts by Boulle? It would be really cool if,
      rather than a DVD, somebody issued a 'director's cut' definitive
      edition of Monkey Planet for the movie's 40th--especially as the book's
      40th passed almost unnoticed.Thiongs like earlier drafts, covers, a
      biography and the legacy of the book would make a great read.John,
      Scrolls.
      >
      > Ebay Item # 320152200122, a first edition original French edition of
      Boulle's book that started it all. Says only 1500 of that first
      edition. A Buy It Now of $999.99. Can you put a price on history?
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 43967 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2007
      Subject: Re: Boulle 1st Edition: $1000 smackers
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      That reflects more the greed of man than anything else!

      -- Rory

      -----Original Message-----
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      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 7:17 am
      Subject: [POTA] Re: Boulle 1st Edition: $1000 smackers






      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." wrote:

      >

      > Ebay Item # 320152200122, a first edition original French edition

      of Boulle's book that started it all. Says only 1500 of that first

      edition. A Buy It Now of $999.99. Can you put a price on history?

      >



      Yes... And that is too high.

      Brendan.












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      Group: pota Message: 43968 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2007
      Subject: POTA New Year's Eve Marathon on AMC
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      AMC-TV is having another APES Marathon on December 31st starting at 10
      AM. Each of the five films will be shown twice, so the marathon will
      run right through New Year's. Of course, AMC really sucks these days,
      no letterboxing and commercials within the commercials, but perhaps a
      few humans will be watching.

      -- Rory


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      Group: pota Message: 43969 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2007
      Subject: A question BENEATH me
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      I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm only just wondering about
      it now.... In BENEATH, how did Nova know where Zira and Cornelius'
      house was? Wouldn't it have made more sense if Brent and Nova,
      concealed in the hillside brush, had just watched into what house Zira
      and Cornelius had gone, then climbed in through a back window?

      -- Rory


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      Group: pota Message: 43970 From: Zach S Date: 12/1/2007
      Subject: Re: POTA New Year's Eve Marathon on AMC
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        Rory, you can say that again...I too have discovered that AMC sucks recently.  It used to be a superb channel!  Like Brent, I'm asking, "What...what could have happened?"
         
        Zach   
         
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        Date: 12/1/2007 1:15:13 PM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [POTA] POTA New Year's Eve Marathon on AMC
         

        AMC-TV is having another APES Marathon on December 31st starting at 10
        AM. Each of the five films will be shown twice, so the marathon will
        run right through New Year's. Of course, AMC really sucks these days,
        no letterboxing and commercials within the commercials, but perhaps a
        few humans will be watching.

        -- Rory

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        Group: pota Message: 43971 From: Zach S Date: 12/1/2007
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          You said it!
           
          Zach   
           
          -------Original Message-------
           
          Date: 12/1/2007 1:17:25 PM
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [POTA] Re: Boulle 1st Edition: $1000 smackers
           

          That reflects more the greed of man than anything else!

          -- Rory

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          To: pota@yahoogroups. com
          Sent: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 7:17 am
          Subject: [POTA] Re: Boulle 1st Edition: $1000 smackers

          --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff K." wrote:

          >

          > Ebay Item # 320152200122, a first edition original French edition

          of Boulle's book that started it all. Says only 1500 of that first

          edition. A Buy It Now of $999.99. Can you put a price on history?

          >

          Yes... And that is too high.

          Brendan.

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          Group: pota Message: 43972 From: Zach S Date: 12/1/2007
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            That's a great question, Rory, I've wondered the same thing myself.  Yes, I think that it would've made much more sense for Brent and Nova to have been watching them enter their house from a distance, and then went in through a back window. 
             
            For that matter, I have a couple of questions that also are BENEATH me as well:
             
            1--Did Taylor teach Nova how to ride a horse?  Because she certainly was keeping up with Brent pretty good during that chase through the forest near the entrance to the subway station's ruins.
             
            2--I probably have asked this before too, but how the heck could Brent and Nova entered the "Queensboro Plaza" subway station...walked a short distance down the tracks, entered a cave-like area...eventually found a ladder that they climbed into another tunnel...and came out in front of the 42nd Street Public Library (when these two NYC landmarks are miles from each other)?  And then, even worse, walking past the remains of the New York Stock Exchange, which is in the southern part of the city?  The Library--Radio City--St. Patrick's Cathedral--and the Grand Central Station scenes made more sense because they are closer together.
             
            3--Was Mendez XXVI wearing some sort of a bulletproof vest or something?  Because when Ursus' guards shot him, he didn't bleed!  However, earlier, when Ongaro (the Negro) met his fate on those spikes in the door of that cell, you could clearly see bloody holes in his robes where he had been impaled!
             
            4--What was in that object lying on the floor that Albina used to commit suicide?
             
            I know that my Apester friends will have superb answers for these questions...I can't wait to see your responses!
             
            Zach 
             
             
             
             
             
            -------Original Message-------
             
            Date: 12/01/07 13:15:40
            To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [POTA] A question BENEATH me
             

            I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm only just wondering about
            it now.... In BENEATH, how did Nova know where Zira and Cornelius'
            house was? Wouldn't it have made more sense if Brent and Nova,
            concealed in the hillside brush, had just watched into what house Zira
            and Cornelius had gone, then climbed in through a back window?

            -- Rory

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            Group: pota Message: 43973 From: James Date: 12/1/2007
            Subject: Re: One of the best "Summer Movies"
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            I can really relate to the statement about the 'matinee movie' back in those days. Back in those days when a film came to the local theater in the summer, it had usually been out for a while first showing in the big Manhattan theaters, then making the rounds in the smaller local theaters. The films would change every Wednesday, not Friday, so it was something to do in the middle of the week.

            --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
            >
            > While in Barnes & Noble the other day I looked at a book called
            > "Flickipedia -- Pefect Films for Every Occasion, Holiday, Mood, Ordeal,
            > and Whim" by Michael Atkinson and Laurel Shifrin. One of the chapters
            > in the book lists the best "Summer Movies" and PLANET is on it.
            > Because I thought what they wrote about POTA was so dead on I'm
            > reproducing it here. Let's hear what you think.
            >
            > "PLANET OF THE APES (1968) -- Before there was 'the Summer Blockbuster'
            > (a label that now describes a studio's box-office hopes rather than a
            > film's actual success), there was the matinee movie, meant as a respite
            > from summer heat for kids
            with nothing to watch at home (in the days
            > before videos, DVDs, and the like) and brainpans overflowing with
            > Marvel comics, Aurora models, and backyard G.I. Joe scenarios. This
            > beautiful, conceptually fearless piece of American pulp remains
            > resonant and unforgettable, but it also invokes memories of an entire
            > decade of summers (what with its many sequels and frequent rereleases)
            > for a lucky generation of kids, whose cerebellums are permanently
            > branded with the image of Charlton Heston kneeling on the beach before
            > the wrecked Statue of Liberty. Ah, to be lost on this 'desert planet'
            > once more...."
            >
            > -- Rory
            >
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            Group: pota Message: 43974 From: James Date: 12/1/2007
            Subject: Re: One of the best "Summer Movies"
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            What movies were ranked 1, 2 and 3? I would guess 2001, The Producers and Rosemary's Baby.


            --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
            >
            > That is a good review....
            >
            > The original Planet was also named one of the best movies of 1968 in the current issue of Cinema Retro magazine......I think it was number 4!
            >
            > Tim

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            Group: pota Message: 43975 From: James Date: 12/1/2007
            Subject: Re: Digest Number 3835
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            Maybe Maurice Evans said it wrong when they filmed the scene. Just speculation.


            --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote:
            >
            >
            > >Posted by: "Dave B" smugster2000@... smugster2000
            > > > About the bookmarks: Isn't the "Beware the Beast Man..." thing the
            > > > 29th Scoll, Sixth Verse?
            > >I was working from a script ('67 revised)...
            > >Cornelius crosses to Zaius, and takes a small book bound in black
            > > leather from the breast pocket of his tunic.
            > > ZAIUS
            > > Read it to him: the twenty third Scroll,
            > > ninth Verse.
            > > Cornelius thumbs through the book, finds the citation and
            > > reads aloud:
            >
            >
            > Interesting....that was apparently changed to the 29th Scroll, 6th
            > Verse, which is how it's referred to onscreen.
            >

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            Group: pota Message: 43976 From: James Date: 12/1/2007
            Subject: Re: POTA New Year's Eve Marathon on AMC
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            At least AMC is showing them in the proper order this time.

            --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
            >
            > AMC-TV is having another APES Marathon on December 31st starting at 10
            > AM. Each of the five films will be shown twice, so the marathon will
            > run right through New Year's. Of course, AMC really sucks these days,
            > no letterboxing and commercials within the commercials, but perhaps a
            > few humans will be watching.
            >
            > -- Rory
            >
            >
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            Group: pota Message: 43977 From: James Date: 12/1/2007
            Subject: Re: A question BENEATH me
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            I've read ahead in CORNELIUS' JOURNAL and there is a very simple explaination for this as well as for Taylor's dogtags.

            --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
            >
            > I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm only just wondering about
            > it now.... In BENEATH, how did Nova know where Zira and Cornelius'
            > house was? Wouldn't it have made more sense if Brent and Nova,
            > concealed in the hillside brush, had just watched into what house Zira
            > and Cornelius had gone, then climbed in through a back window?
            >
            > -- Rory
            >
            >
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            Group: pota Message: 43978 From: James Date: 12/1/2007
            Subject: Re: A question BENEATH me
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            See answers or possible answers below.

            --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zach S" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
            >
            > That's a great question, Rory, I've wondered the same thing myself. Yes, I
            > think that it would've made much more sense for Brent and Nova to have been
            > watching them enter their house from a distance, and then went in through a
            > back window.

            > For that matter, I have a couple of questions that also are BENEATH me as
            > well:

            > 1--Did Taylor teach Nova how to ride a horse? Because she certainly was
            > keeping up with Brent pretty good during that chase through the forest near
            > the entrance to the subway station's ruins.
            >
            Actually while Nova was riding around the Forbidden Zone Captain Kirk beamed down and gave Nova riding lessons while hitting on her.;-)

            > 2--I probably have asked this before too, but how the heck could Brent and
            > Nova entered the "Queensboro Plaza" subway station...walked a short distance
            > down the tracks, entered a cave-like area...eventually found a ladder that
            > they climbed into another tunnel...and came out in front of the 42nd Street
            > Public Library (when these two NYC landmarks are miles from each other)?
            > And then, even worse, walking past the remains of the New York Stock
            > Exchange, which is in the southern part of the city? The Library--Radio
            > City--St. Patrick's Cathedral--and the Grand Central Station scenes made
            > more sense because they are closer together.
            >
            Serious answer this time. This is something that happens in many movies and TV shows. I don't know how many times I've watched something where the characters turn the corner and are suddenly in a different part of the city. In Superman Clark and Lois leave the Daily Planet on 42nd then they are in downtown near the Manhattan bridge. This not limited to films shot in New York either. Most filmmakers take creative license on locations and assume other than the natives of a particular city no one else will notice.

            >
            > 3--Was Mendez XXVI wearing some sort of a bulletproof vest or something?
            > Because when Ursus' guards shot him, he didn't bleed! However, earlier,
            > when Ongaro (the Negro) met his fate on those spikes in the door of that
            > cell, you could clearly see bloody holes in his robes where he had been
            > impaled!
            >
            Again most likely creative license by the filmmakers not wanting to make the film too bloody and risk not getting a G rating. Remember there was no PG or PG-13 rating back then.

            >
            > 4--What was in that object lying on the floor that Albina used to commit
            > suicide?
            >
            Probably, an old bottle of Tylenol. It wasn't very safe back then. No safety caps so it was a 50/50 chance that it would get rid of your headache or kill you (which would get rid of your headache permanently). ;-)

            >
            > I know that my Apester friends will have superb answers for these questions.
            > .I can't wait to see your responses!
            >
            >
            >
            > Zach
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > -------Original Message-------
            >
            >
            >
            > From: Haristas@...
            >
            > Date: 12/01/07 13:15:40
            >
            > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            >
            > Subject: [POTA] A question BENEATH me
            >
            >
            >
            > I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm only just wondering about
            >
            > it now.... In BENEATH, how did Nova know where Zira and Cornelius'
            >
            > house was? Wouldn't it have made more sense if Brent and Nova,
            >
            > concealed in the hillside brush, had just watched into what house Zira
            >
            > and Cornelius had gone, then climbed in through a back window?
            >
            >
            >
            > -- Rory
            >
            >
            >
            > >
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            Group: pota Message: 43979 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2007
            Subject: Re: One of the best "Summer Movies"
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            I can't remember the order, or everything that made it as a "summer
            movie," but JAWS, BUTCH CASSIDY and CHINATOWN were also on the list. I
            don't recall THE PRODUCERS or ROSEMARY'S BABY, but 2001 made it on a
            list of movies to watch on a sick day, because it's long and you can
            take a good nap during it.

            -- Rory

            -----Original Message-----
            From: James <JamesA1102@...>
            To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 4:57 pm
            Subject: [POTA] Re: One of the best "Summer Movies"







            What movies were ranked 1, 2 and 3? I would guess 2001, The Producers
            and Rosemary's Baby.


            --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" wrote:
            >
            > That is a good review....
            >
            > The original Planet was also named one of the best movies of 1968 in
            the current issue of Cinema Retro magazine......I think it was number 4!
            >
            > Tim










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            Group: pota Message: 43980 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/1/2007
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            I'm not sure...Ill have to look at it again....Rosemary and 2001 were further down the list.....Romeo and Juliet was like 6....

            James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
            What movies were ranked 1, 2 and 3? I would guess 2001, The Producers and Rosemary's Baby.

            --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
            >
            > That is a good review....
            >
            > The original Planet was also named one of the best movies of 1968 in the current issue of Cinema Retro magazine.... ..I think it was number 4!
            >
            > Tim


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            Group: pota Message: 43981 From: Zach S Date: 12/2/2007
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              Thanks, James, I liked those!
               
              Zach   
               
              -------Original Message-------
               
              From: James
              Date: 12/01/07 16:28:48
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [POTA] Re: A question BENEATH me
               

              See answers or possible answers below.

              --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Zach S" <Zasco1957@.. .> wrote:

              >
              > That's a great question, Rory, I've wondered the same thing myself. Yes, I
              > think that it would've made much more sense for Brent and Nova to have been
              > watching them enter their house from a distance, and then went in through a
              > back window.

              > For that matter, I have a couple of questions that also are BENEATH me as
              > well:

              > 1--Did Taylor teach Nova how to ride a horse? Because she certainly was
              > keeping up with Brent pretty good during that chase through the forest near
              > the entrance to the subway station's ruins.
              >
              Actually while Nova was riding around the Forbidden Zone Captain Kirk beamed down and gave Nova riding lessons while hitting on her.;-)

              > 2--I probably have asked this before too, but how the heck could Brent and

              > Nova entered the "Queensboro Plaza" subway station...walked a short distance
              > down the tracks, entered a cave-like area...eventually found a ladder that
              > they climbed into another tunnel...and came out in front of the 42nd Street
              > Public Library (when these two NYC landmarks are miles from each other)?
              > And then, even worse, walking past the remains of the New York Stock
              > Exchange, which is in the southern part of the city? The Library--Radio
              > City--St. Patrick's Cathedral--and the Grand Central Station scenes made
              > more sense because they are closer together.
              >
              Serious answer this time. This is something that happens in many movies and TV shows. I don't know how many times I've watched something where the characters turn the corner and are suddenly in a different part of the city. In Superman Clark and Lois leave the Daily Planet on 42nd then they are in downtown near the Manhattan bridge. This not limited to films shot in New York either. Most filmmakers take creative license on locations and assume other than the natives of a particular city no one else will notice.

              >

              > 3--Was Mendez XXVI wearing some sort of a bulletproof vest or something?
              > Because when Ursus' guards shot him, he didn't bleed! However, earlier,
              > when Ongaro (the Negro) met his fate on those spikes in the door of that
              > cell, you could clearly see bloody holes in his robes where he had been
              > impaled!
              >
              Again most likely creative license by the filmmakers not wanting to make the film too bloody and risk not getting a G rating. Remember there was no PG or PG-13 rating back then.

              >

              > 4--What was in that object lying on the floor that Albina used to commit
              > suicide?
              >
              Probably, an old bottle of Tylenol. It wasn't very safe back then. No safety caps so it was a 50/50 chance that it would get rid of your headache or kill you (which would get rid of your headache permanently) . ;-)

              >

              > I know that my Apester friends will have superb answers for these questions.
              > .I can't wait to see your responses!
              >
              >
              >
              > Zach
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > -------Original Message----- --
              >
              >
              >
              > From: Haristas@...
              >
              > Date: 12/01/07 13:15:40
              >
              > To: pota@yahoogroups. com
              >
              > Subject: [POTA] A question BENEATH me
              >
              >
              >
              > I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm only just wondering about
              >
              > it now.... In BENEATH, how did Nova know where Zira and Cornelius'
              >
              > house was? Wouldn't it have made more sense if Brent and Nova,
              >
              > concealed in the hillside brush, had just watched into what house Zira
              >
              > and Cornelius had gone, then climbed in through a back window?
              >
              >
              >
              > -- Rory
              >
              >
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 43982 From: shanter2002 Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Re: Boulle 1st Edition: $1000 smackers
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              Given the lead in time for stuff like this, does anybody have any
              idea who we could start lobbying nowe for Boulle's Apes anniversary
              to be properly marked? John, Scrolls.
              >
              > Yes, but in about 5 years the book will be 50. And 2012 will
              mark the centennial of Boulle's birth. He was about 50 when he wrote
              the book. Jeff
              >
              > ----- Original Message -----
              > From: shanter2002
              > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 3:28 AM
              > Subject: [POTA] Re: Boulle 1st Edition: $1000 smackers
              >
              >
              > It would be a privilege to see that, let alone own it.I still
              think
              > that the hunt scene in Boulle is the single most elecrifying
              passage in
              > the Apes canon.Simply brilliant.Has there ever been any hint of
              the
              > existence of earler drafts by Boulle? It would be really cool if,
              > rather than a DVD, somebody issued a 'director's cut' definitive
              > edition of Monkey Planet for the movie's 40th--especially as the
              book's
              > 40th passed almost unnoticed.Thiongs like earlier drafts, covers,
              a
              > biography and the legacy of the book would make a great
              read.John,
              > Scrolls.
              > >
              > > Ebay Item # 320152200122, a first edition original French
              edition of
              > Boulle's book that started it all. Says only 1500 of that first
              > edition. A Buy It Now of $999.99. Can you put a price on history?
              > >
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 43983 From: shanter2002 Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: It's a Miracle!
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              If you don't have #5 of the Marvel mag, ignore this posting.If you DO
              have it, on page 47 there is a family group pic of Caesar, Lisa and
              Corny.Beneath Caesar's chin is a ghostly image of the Virgin Mary.I kid
              you not.John, Scrolls.
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              Group: pota Message: 43984 From: shanter2002 Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Bigotry on the POTA
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              Cover #5 of Marvel's mag, by the superb Bob Larkin, has a scene from
              the lead story that issue, 'Evolution's Nightmare'.The story involves a
              black guy and an gorilla being forced to work together due to injuries
              sustained in battle.Issue #4 had an advert for this, drawn by Ron
              Wilson (who is black, incidentally) and the human character is black in
              the ad, which is a drawing based on the painted cover for #5.And yet
              the guy on the painted cover is white!It even looks to my nerdish eye
              that the cover might have been altered to make him a white man.Would it
              have been so wrong to have a black guy starring on the cover? John,
              Scrolls.
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              Group: pota Message: 43985 From: Shane Miller Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Re: One of the best "Summer Movies"
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              What was also great was when the Drive-Ins would show
              dusk to dawn films like apes and so forth!
              --- James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

              >
              > I can really relate to the statement about the
              > 'matinee movie' back in
              > those days. Back in those days when a film came to
              > the local theater in
              > the summer, it had usually been out for a while
              > first showing in the big
              > Manhattan theaters, then making the rounds in the
              > smaller local
              > theaters. The films would change every Wednesday,
              > not Friday, so it was
              > something to do in the middle of the week.
              >
              > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
              > >
              > > While in Barnes & Noble the other day I looked at
              > a book called
              > > "Flickipedia -- Pefect Films for Every Occasion,
              > Holiday, Mood,
              > Ordeal,
              > > and Whim" by Michael Atkinson and Laurel Shifrin.
              > One of the chapters
              > > in the book lists the best "Summer Movies" and
              > PLANET is on it.
              > > Because I thought what they wrote about POTA was
              > so dead on I'm
              > > reproducing it here. Let's hear what you think.
              > >
              > > "PLANET OF THE APES (1968) -- Before there was
              > 'the Summer
              > Blockbuster'
              > > (a label that now describes a studio's box-office
              > hopes rather than a
              > > film's actual success), there was the matinee
              > movie, meant as a
              > respite
              > > from summer heat for kids with nothing to watch at
              > home (in the days
              > > before videos, DVDs, and the like) and brainpans
              > overflowing with
              > > Marvel comics, Aurora models, and backyard G.I.
              > Joe scenarios. This
              > > beautiful, conceptually fearless piece of American
              > pulp remains
              > > resonant and unforgettable, but it also invokes
              > memories of an entire
              > > decade of summers (what with its many sequels and
              > frequent rereleases)
              > > for a lucky generation of kids, whose cerebellums
              > are permanently
              > > branded with the image of Charlton Heston kneeling
              > on the beach before
              > > the wrecked Statue of Liberty. Ah, to be lost on
              > this 'desert planet'
              > > once more...."
              > >
              > > -- Rory
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 43986 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Re: A question BENEATH me
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              > I don't know how many times I've watched something where
              > the characters turn the corner and are suddenly in a different part of
              > the city.

              It would also destroy the pacing and create much longer movies if they
              showed every step every character makes to get from one place to
              another....

              Are you sure PG didn't exist back then? I know PG-13 didn't, but I
              thought the rating were G, PG, and R.

              Hunter
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              Group: pota Message: 43987 From: James Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Re: A question BENEATH me
              .html

              At the time Beneath was filmed the ratings were G, M, R and X. M was replaced by GP which was later replaced by PG.

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
              >
              > Are you sure PG didn't exist back then? I know PG-13 didn't, but I
              > thought the rating were G, PG, and R.
              >
              > Hunter
              >

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              Group: pota Message: 43988 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Re: It's a Miracle!
              .html
              Um...I didn't see one...are you sure you are not having some sort of spiritual crisis, John?   lol

              shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:
              If you don't have #5 of the Marvel mag, ignore this posting.If you DO
              have it, on page 47 there is a family group pic of Caesar, Lisa and
              Corny.Beneath Caesar's chin is a ghostly image of the Virgin Mary.I kid
              you not.John, Scrolls.



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              Group: pota Message: 43989 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Re: Bigotry on the POTA
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              Also odd that the cover has a chimp with the white man instead of a a gorilla...maybe they were making it more familiar to  the TV series audience.....

              shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:
              Cover #5 of Marvel's mag, by the superb Bob Larkin, has a scene from
              the lead story that issue, 'Evolution's Nightmare'.The story involves a
              black guy and an gorilla being forced to work together due to injuries
              sustained in battle.Issue #4 had an advert for this, drawn by Ron
              Wilson (who is black, incidentally) and the human character is black in
              the ad, which is a drawing based on the painted cover for #5.And yet
              the guy on the painted cover is white!It even looks to my nerdish eye
              that the cover might have been altered to make him a white man.Would it
              have been so wrong to have a black guy starring on the cover? John,
              Scrolls.



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              Group: pota Message: 43990 From: jessica rotich Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Re: It's a Miracle!
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              Can I please see a scan of this?  I am curious!!
               
              Jessica.

               
              On 12/2/07, Tim apefan <apefan23@...> wrote:

              Um...I didn't see one...are you sure you are not having some sort of spiritual crisis, John?   lol

              shanter2002 < john@...> wrote:

              If you don't have #5 of the Marvel mag, ignore this posting.If you DO
              have it, on page 47 there is a family group pic of Caesar, Lisa and
              Corny.Beneath Caesar's chin is a ghostly image of the Virgin Mary.I kid
              you not.John, Scrolls.

               


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              Group: pota Message: 43991 From: James Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Re: It's a Miracle!
              .html

              Here you go!

              Restored versions of all the Marvel covers are available in the Group Website: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/ComicsCovers.htm.

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
              >
              > Can I please see a scan of this? I am curious!!
              >
              > Jessica.
              >
              >
              > On 12/2/07, Tim apefan apefan23@... wrote:
              > >
              > > Um...I didn't see one...are you sure you are not having some sort of
              > > spiritual crisis, John? lol
              > >
              > > *shanter2002 john@...* wrote:
              > >
              > > If you don't have #5 of the Marvel mag, ignore this posting.If you DO
              > > have it, on page 47 there is a family group pic of Caesar, Lisa and
              > > Corny.Beneath Caesar's chin is a ghostly image of the Virgin Mary.I kid
              > > you not.John, Scrolls.
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > ------------------------------
              > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try
              > > it now.<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51731/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ%0A>
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >

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              Group: pota Message: 43992 From: Chris Lawless Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Re: New Lawgiver Head
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              One of the funniest shows on Adult Swim right now.
               
               
              Chris L.
               
               
               
              "LordTZer0@..." <LordTZer0@...> wrote:
               
              >>_The Venture Bros. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia_
              (http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Venture_Bros.) <<
               
               
              "angelofmusic2112" <angelofmusic2112@...> wrote:
               
              >>Who's Dr. Venture and why would he call it a speed suit?
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              Group: pota Message: 43993 From: Chris Lawless Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Re: Taylor's escape / HD DVD or Blueray???
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              "Zach S" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
               
              >>I well remember the Betamax video
              tapes, as well as the VHS, which replaced those... <<
               
              VHS and Beta was a format war, much like HD-DVD and Blu-ray are having now, and DVD and DIVX before that.
               
              VHS died only because the industry stopped supporting it. Ditto for audio cassettes and Laserdiscs.
               
               
               
              "Hunter Goatley" <goathunter@...> wrote:
               
              >>As soon as the studios, for whatever reason, decide to stop making
              the
              DVD format, people will change.... <<
               
              Blammo. However, I don't know if there'd be another move for everyone to make a mass conversion from DVD to whatever the next thing ends up being. A while back the music industry was looking for the follow up to Compact Discs, but in the meantime a little thing called MP3 happened and now you'll never see a new format for music to be released where people would be forced to replace their collections again. I wonder if we'll see the same thing happen with DVD where there'll be a simplified digital process made available and the industry loses control of the technology.
               
               
               
              "Zach S" again:
               
              >>and the vinyl records, that CD's replaced.
               
               
              Hunter again:
               
              >>Vinyl is actually enjoying a resurgence in popularity these days
              <<
               
               
              Vinyl actually managed to hang around somehow, though I don't necessarily subscribe to that whole "taking the soul out of the music" mentality that vinyl enthusiasts espouse. Laserdisc and DVD (digital) are clearly superior to videotape (magnetic). Why that fact is acknowledged but not applied to CD (digital) vs vinyl (magnetic) was always beyond me.
               
              Curiously, there's still loads of stuff that was released on vinyl and VHS that has yet to be released in a digital format (legally, anyways), so that drives the collector's market on places like eBay and so forth.
               
              Chris L.
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              Group: pota Message: 43994 From: Chris Lawless Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Subway Terror in NY
              .html
              Is the artwork on the "New York is a Summer Festival" poster that Brent
              is holding:

              http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/view/99bf?b=11

              http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/view/99bf?b=12

              based on an actual advertising campaign, or what was used in the original
              film? If it's the latter, how did you get to see the whole image? From
              what I remember, you only see part of the poster when Brent is looking at
              it.


              Chris L.
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              Group: pota Message: 43995 From: Chris Lawless Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage
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              .html
              I had been in touch with someone at Image Entertainment back in the mid-90's, and he told me that the only reason that BATTLE wasn't initially released on LD along with the other four is because they couldn't find a useable print. I'd have to look in my old catalogs, but I'm pretty sure it was at least solicited to vendors at one point. Never heard anything about sales of ESCAPE and CONQUEST being very poor, but now that I think about it I did get CONQUEST on closeout from a place in Boston (I think) called The Laser's Edge. Here's a bit of trivia- PLANET was released on LD first, but ESCAPE actually came out second. I remember this vividly because I used to shop for LDs at Tower and the guy in charge of ordering really kept on top of what was going on with new releases.
               
              I never bothered with the 1998 LD releases, but I always presumed that they went with the theatrical version because that's what was being shown on TV at the time with the AMC 30th anniversary and so forth. Also probably because that was the version that was getting released on VHS.
               
              Anyone remember if all five movies were released separately on VHS back in 1998, or did you have to buy the box set if you wanted the sequels? I remember PLANET coming out separately on VHS (in widescreen as I recall), but I don't remember the other four. I do remember driving down to a mall about 40 minutes south of me to buy the widescreen box set because you had to do that so you could mail away for a free copy of BEHIND on VHS. Ahh, a much simpler time...
               
               
              Chris L.
               
               
               
              "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
               
              >>I have the Japan laserdisc and they are the same transfers as the
              initial American laserdisc releases. The extended Battle transfer was
              supposed to be released in the U.S. but sales of Escape and Conquest
              on laserdisc were so dismal, and the Battle transfer (with the
              extended footage) was so bad, Fox opted not to release it in the
              states. They subsequently THX remasterd and released Battle on
              laserdisc, but I don't know why they opted for the theatrical
              version, instead of extended on that release...  <<
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              Group: pota Message: 43996 From: Chris Lawless Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Re: Ape Holidays
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              .html
              True, but the entire Adventure Comics line was "kind of" forgettable- save for Urchak's Folly and Blood of the Apes.   :-)
               
              Jeff, I still have the one POTA Christmas card you sent me and look for a new one every December. Sometimes twice a day...
               
               
              Chris L.
               
               
               
              "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
               
              >>They had "kind of" a Christmas in an issue of the Adventure comics,
              which had "kind of" an ape Santa Claus on the cover. Every Christmas I display that issue and it was the inspiration for my own POTA Christmas cards. It was issue # 8. I'm sure many would sniff at that, but it's only "official" Ape story I can think of that touches on a holiday. <<<.html
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              Group: pota Message: 43997 From: Chris Lawless Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage
              .html
              .html
              Evolution laserdiscs?? Or did you mean the Evolution DVD box set?
               
               
              Chris L.
               
               
               
              "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
               
              >>I passed on the "Evolution" laserdiscs once I saw Battle's running
              time. <<<.html
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              Group: pota Message: 43998 From: Chris Lawless Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Re: Stupid Gorillas
              .html
              .html
              What?!?!?!?!?!?!?
               
              Have you been reading Greene's book or something...?   ;-)
               
               
              Chris L.
               
               
               
              "Bobby Smyth" <cuddybuddy69@...> wrote:
               
              >>Apart from being as you say stupid,it came to mind that the
              gorrilas
              were shall I say a bit on the er um ''gay side''..the main evidence
              for this being in BENEATH,where you see them preparing to head off to
              do battle.There they are,all lined up in formation,marching away to
              war,and fluttering in the breeze their regimental war banners..in nice
              black text/symbols set on a very nice pink background.. all that was
              missing was the handbags lol <<
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              Group: pota Message: 43999 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage
              .html
              I don't recall ever reading about why BATTLE never made it to laserdisc
              in the early '90s, but I do recall I never missed it. I was too busy
              trying to get a better version of PLANET because that original
              laserdisc was dreadful. I always wanted one of those big collector
              edition box sets, but we never got it. I had to get the THX remastered
              LDs in '99 because I couldn't take the old LD any longer and because it
              had 5.1 "AC-3" sound for PLANET. I went out and got a whole new amp
              just to hear that! In retrospect isn't wasn't all that great and it
              wasn't until the 35th anniversary DVD that PLANET finally sounded and
              looked truly decent. I can't recall if all five of the movies were
              released separately in '98 on VHS. All I know is that I bought both
              the letterboxed set of all five, plus the single PLANET in the plastic
              case. Funny, but at first I wasn't at all bothered by the spoiler
              cover art, but later it really pissed me off.

              -- Rory

              -----Original Message-----
              From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 7:40 pm
              Subject: [POTA] Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage

              I had been in touch with someone at Image Entertainment back in the
              mid-90's, and he told me that the only reason that BATTLE wasn't
              initially
              released on LD along with the other four is because they couldn't find
              a useable
              print. I'd have to look in my old catalogs, but I'm pretty sure it was
              at least
              solicited to vendors at one point. Never heard anything about sales of
              ESCAPE
              and CONQUEST being very poor, but now that I think about it I did get
              CONQUEST
              on closeout from a place in Boston (I think) called The Laser's Edge.
              Here's a
              bit of trivia- PLANET was released on LD first, but ESCAPE actually
              came out
              second. I remember this vividly because I used to shop for LDs at Tower
              and the
              guy in charge of ordering really kept on top of what was going on with
              new
              releases.

              I never bothered with the 1998 LD releases, but I always presumed that
              they
              went with the theatrical version because that's what was being shown on
              TV at
              the time with the AMC 30th anniversary and so forth. Also probably
              because that
              was the version that was getting released on VHS.

              Anyone remember if all five movies were released separately on VHS back
              in
              1998, or did you have to buy the box set if you wanted the sequels? I
              remember
              PLANET coming out separately on VHS (in widescreen as I recall), but I
              don't
              remember the other four. I do remember driving down to a mall about 40
              minutes
              south of me to buy the widescreen box set because you had to do that so
              you
              could mail away for a free copy of BEHIND on VHS. Ahh, a much simpler
              time...


              Chris L.



              "drhasslein" drhasslein@...> wrote:

              >>I have the Japan laserdisc and they are the same transfers as the

              initial American laserdisc releases. The extended Battle transfer was

              supposed to be released in the U.S. but sales of Escape and Conquest
              on
              laserdisc were so dismal, and the Battle transfer (with the
              extended
              footage) was so bad, Fox opted not to release it in the
              states. They
              subsequently THX remasterd and released Battle on
              laserdisc, but I don't
              know why they opted for the theatrical
              version, instead of extended on that
              release...









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              Group: pota Message: 44000 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/2/2007
              Subject: Re: Ape Holidays
              .html
              speaking of Blood of the APes.....I am missing No. 3 and that is the only POTA comic I do not have....been looking for it at comic shows and online over the years....if anyone has an extra copy I cna buy , let me know!

              Thanks
              Tim

              Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
              True, but the entire Adventure Comics line was "kind of" forgettable- save for Urchak's Folly and Blood of the Apes.   :-)
               
              Jeff, I still have the one POTA Christmas card you sent me and look for a new one every December. Sometimes twice a day...
               
               
              Chris L.
               
               
               
              "Jeff K." <veetus@earthlink. net> wrote:
               
              >>They had "kind of" a Christmas in an issue of the Adventure comics, which had "kind of" an ape Santa Claus on the cover. Every Christmas I display that issue and it was the inspiration for my own POTA Christmas cards. It was issue # 8. I'm sure many would sniff at that, but it's only "official" Ape story I can think of that touches on a holiday. <<


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              Group: pota Message: 44001 From: drhasslein Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage
              .html
              The THX remasters and artwork were the same on the laserdisc reissues
              as the evolution vhs & dvd, so I call them "evolution" laserdiscs, as
              opposed to original laserdisc releases.

              -- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
              >
              > Evolution laserdiscs?? Or did you mean the Evolution DVD box set?
              >
              >
              > Chris L.
              >
              >
              >
              > "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
              >
              > >>I passed on the "Evolution" laserdiscs once I saw Battle's running
              > time. <<
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 44002 From: drhasslein Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage
              .html
              It was Dave Miller of Fox video that told me the story of Battle at
              Dave's Laser Place Studio Day in Studio City, CA. He said it would
              come up in every meeting, but was shot down every time. It was
              definitely the extended version that was in the Japan box. He said he
              received numerous letters from the same five guys over and over again
              asking for the release (I was one of them.) The Studio Day the
              following year he was really excited to tell me about the Japan set,
              I had already purchased it by then. He has since left Fox video.

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
              >
              > I had been in touch with someone at Image Entertainment back in the
              > mid-90's, and he told me that the only reason that BATTLE wasn't
              > initially released on LD along with the other four is because they
              > couldn't find a useable print. I'd have to look in my old catalogs,
              but
              > I'm pretty sure it was at least solicited to vendors at one point.
              Never
              > heard anything about sales of ESCAPE and CONQUEST being very poor,
              but
              > now that I think about it I did get CONQUEST on closeout from a
              place in
              > Boston (I think) called The Laser's Edge. Here's a bit of trivia-
              PLANET
              > was released on LD first, but ESCAPE actually came out second. I
              remember
              > this vividly because I used to shop for LDs at Tower and the guy in
              > charge of ordering really kept on top of what was going on with new
              > releases.
              >
              > I never bothered with the 1998 LD releases, but I always presumed
              that
              > they went with the theatrical version because that's what was being
              shown
              > on TV at the time with the AMC 30th anniversary and so forth. Also
              > probably because that was the version that was getting released on
              VHS.
              >
              > Anyone remember if all five movies were released separately on VHS
              back
              > in 1998, or did you have to buy the box set if you wanted the
              sequels? I
              > remember PLANET coming out separately on VHS (in widescreen as I
              recall),
              > but I don't remember the other four. I do remember driving down to
              a mall
              > about 40 minutes south of me to buy the widescreen box set because
              you
              > had to do that so you could mail away for a free copy of BEHIND on
              VHS.
              > Ahh, a much simpler time...
              >
              >
              > Chris L.
              >
              >
              >
              > "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
              >
              > >>I have the Japan laserdisc and they are the same transfers as the
              > initial American laserdisc releases. The extended Battle transfer
              was
              > supposed to be released in the U.S. but sales of Escape and
              Conquest
              > on laserdisc were so dismal, and the Battle transfer (with the
              > extended footage) was so bad, Fox opted not to release it in the
              > states. They subsequently THX remasterd and released Battle on
              > laserdisc, but I don't know why they opted for the theatrical
              > version, instead of extended on that release... <<
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 44003 From: drhasslein Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Smash poster
              .html
              The Smash Poster of the Apes crossing the Delaware is on ebay again.
              Item # 130180319328.
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              Group: pota Message: 44004 From: drhasslein Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: Ape Holidays
              .html
              Blood of the Apes #3? I have a couple extras.... I picked up a bunch
              of apes back issues for a quarter each when Forbidden Planet in
              Sherman Oaks closed a decade or so ago. Email your address to me, and
              I'll send it to you gratis... To bad you didn't mention this when you
              were in Los Angeles, I could've just given it to you at the
              screening.


              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
              >
              > speaking of Blood of the APes.....I am missing No. 3 and that is
              the only POTA comic I do not have....been looking for it at comic
              shows and online over the years....if anyone has an extra copy I cna
              buy , let me know!
              >
              > Thanks
              > Tim
              >
              > Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>
              wrote:
              > True, but the entire Adventure Comics line was "kind of"
              forgettable- save for Urchak's Folly and Blood of the Apes. :-)
              >
              > Jeff, I still have the one POTA Christmas card you sent me and
              look for a new one every December. Sometimes twice a day...
              >
              >
              > Chris L.
              >
              >
              >
              > "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
              >
              > >>They had "kind of" a Christmas in an issue of the Adventure
              comics, which had "kind of" an ape Santa Claus on the cover. Every
              Christmas I display that issue and it was the inspiration for my own
              POTA Christmas cards. It was issue # 8. I'm sure many would sniff at
              that, but it's only "official" Ape story I can think of that touches
              on a holiday. <<
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > ---------------------------------
              > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail.
              See how.
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 44005 From: Bobby Smyth Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: Stupid Gorillas
              .html
              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
              >Reading who's book? I was merely basing what I wrote on the ''er
              evidence '' presented during the running of the film lol
              > What?!?!?!?!?!?!?
              >
              > Have you been reading Greene's book or something...? ;-)
              >
              >
              > Chris L.
              >
              >
              >
              > "Bobby Smyth" <cuddybuddy69@...> wrote:
              >
              > >>Apart from being as you say stupid,it came to mind that the
              gorrilas
              > were shall I say a bit on the er um ''gay side''..the main
              evidence
              > for this being in BENEATH,where you see them preparing to head off
              to
              > do battle.There they are,all lined up in formation,marching away
              to
              > war,and fluttering in the breeze their regimental war banners..in
              nice
              > black text/symbols set on a very nice pink background..all that
              was
              > missing was the handbags lol <<
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 44006 From: James Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: It's a Miracle!
              .html

              Here you go and there is something there.


              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
              >
              > Can I please see a scan of this? I am curious!!
              >
              > Jessica.
              >
              >
              > On 12/2/07, Tim apefan apefan23@... wrote:
              > >
              > > Um...I didn't see one...are you sure you are not having some sort of
              > > spiritual crisis, John? lol
              > >
              > > *shanter2002 john@...* wrote:
              > >
              > > If you don't have #5 of the Marvel mag, ignore this posting.If you DO
              > > have it, on page 47 there is a family group pic of Caesar, Lisa and
              > > Corny.Beneath Caesar's chin is a ghostly image of the Virgin Mary.I kid
              > > you not.John, Scrolls.
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > ------------------------------
              > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try
              > > it now.<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51731/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ%0A>
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >

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              Group: pota Message: 44007 From: James Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage
              .html

              Did he ever say why? The story I heard was that FOX didn't want to go to the expense of reprocessing and color correcting the print.

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
              >
              > It was Dave Miller of Fox video that told me the story of Battle at
              > Dave's Laser Place Studio Day in Studio City, CA. He said it would
              > come up in every meeting, but was shot down every time.

              <.html
              Group: pota Message: 44008 From: Rich Handley Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: Digest Number 3837
              .html
              >Posted by: "Tim "apefan"" apefan23@... apefan23
              >speaking of Blood of the APes.....I am missing No. 3 and that is the
              >only POTA comic I do not have....been looking for it at comic shows
              >and online over the years....if anyone has an extra copy I cna buy ,
              >let me know!

              Here you go:

              http://cgi.ebay.com/Planet-of-the-Apes-Blood-of-the-Apes-1991-3-FN_W0QQitemZ150186945097QQihZ005QQcategoryZ3955QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

              http://cgi.ebay.com/Planet-of-the-Apes-Blood-of-the-Apes-Comic-3-1992-NM_W0QQitemZ130129862966QQihZ003QQcategoryZ153QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
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              Group: pota Message: 44009 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: Smash poster
              .html
              > The Smash Poster of the Apes crossing the Delaware is on ebay again.

              I've put a bid on it (so everybody else, back off! ;-)). If I get it,
              I'll do a full scan. In any case, I've asked the seller if he could
              send me a larger view of the poster for my site.

              Hunter
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              Group: pota Message: 44010 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage
              .html
              > It was
              > definitely the extended version that was in the Japan box.

              Yes, that was the source for the "extended" DVD I released a few years
              ago.

              Hunter
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              Group: pota Message: 44011 From: drhasslein Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: "Lost" ESCAPE footage
              .html
              All he said was that was the transfer they had, and they couldn't
              release it in good conscience, given the quality, and sales of prior
              releases couldn't justify a new master.

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
              >
              >
              > Did he ever say why? The story I heard was that FOX didn't want to go
              to
              > the expense of reprocessing and color correcting the print.
              >
              > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@> wrote:
              > >
              > > It was Dave Miller of Fox video that told me the story of Battle at
              > > Dave's Laser Place Studio Day in Studio City, CA. He said it would
              > > come up in every meeting, but was shot down every time.
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 44012 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: Smash poster
              .html
              I see the seller has already put a link to your site! That will be a cool addition!

              Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
              > The Smash Poster of the Apes crossing the Delaware is on ebay again.

              I've put a bid on it (so everybody else, back off! ;-)). If I get it,
              I'll do a full scan. In any case, I've asked the seller if he could
              send me a larger view of the poster for my site.

              Hunter


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              Group: pota Message: 44013 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: Digest Number 3837
              .html
              Of course now it comes up agaiN!
              "drhasselien" is sending me one though....THanks Rich!

              Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote:

              >Posted by: "Tim "apefan"" apefan23@yahoo. com apefan23
              >speaking of Blood of the APes.....I am missing No. 3 and that is the
              >only POTA comic I do not have....been looking for it at comic shows
              >and online over the years....if anyone has an extra copy I cna buy ,
              >let me know!

              Here you go:

              http://cgi.ebay. com/Planet- of-the-Apes- Blood-of- the-Apes- 1991-3-FN_ W0QQitemZ1501869 45097QQihZ005QQc ategoryZ3955QQrd Z1QQssPageNameZW D1VQQcmdZViewIte m

              http://cgi.ebay. com/Planet- of-the-Apes- Blood-of- the-Apes- Comic-3-1992- NM_W0QQitemZ1301 29862966QQihZ003 QQcategoryZ153QQ rdZ1QQssPageName ZWD1VQQcmdZViewI tem



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              Group: pota Message: 44014 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Are you smarter than a 5 year old chimp?
              .html
              http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071203/ap_on_sc/chimp_memory


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              Group: pota Message: 44015 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: Ape Holidays
              .html
              Just sent my address....YOU ROCK!!!
              Thank you!!!

              Tim

              drhasslein <drhasslein@...> wrote:
              Blood of the Apes #3? I have a couple extras.... I picked up a bunch
              of apes back issues for a quarter each when Forbidden Planet in
              Sherman Oaks closed a decade or so ago. Email your address to me, and
              I'll send it to you gratis... To bad you didn't mention this when you
              were in Los Angeles, I could've just given it to you at the
              screening.

              --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@.. .> wrote:
              >
              > speaking of Blood of the APes.....I am missing No. 3 and that is
              the only POTA comic I do not have....been looking for it at comic
              shows and online over the years....if anyone has an extra copy I cna
              buy , let me know!
              >
              > Thanks
              > Tim
              >
              > Chris Lawless <lawford42@. ..>
              wrote:
              > True, but the entire Adventure Comics line was "kind of"
              forgettable- save for Urchak's Folly and Blood of the Apes. :-)
              >
              > Jeff, I still have the one POTA Christmas card you sent me and
              look for a new one every December. Sometimes twice a day...
              >
              >
              > Chris L.
              >
              >
              >
              > "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
              >
              > >>They had "kind of" a Christmas in an issue of the Adventure
              comics, which had "kind of" an ape Santa Claus on the cover. Every
              Christmas I display that issue and it was the inspiration for my own
              POTA Christmas cards. It was issue # 8. I'm sure many would sniff at
              that, but it's only "official" Ape story I can think of that touches
              on a holiday. <<
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > ------------ --------- --------- ---
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              See how.
              >



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              Group: pota Message: 44016 From: jessica rotich Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: It's a Miracle!
              .html
              James,
               
              Thank you.  I see it!  Very creepy!! 
               
              I thought when you had mentioned the image, it would have been a cartoon drawing, which is why I was so curious to see it.
               
              I thought that one of the artists (If it is true they were Filipino), had snuck in something religious in a drawing until I saw the scan, so thank you!!  This is a link of a site I came across the internet a few weeks ago:
               
               
               
              Have you seen it before?
               
              Jessica.

               
              On Dec 3, 2007 3:27 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

              Here you go and there is something there.


              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
              >
              > Can I please see a scan of this? I am curious!!
              >
              > Jessica.
              >
              >
              > On 12/2/07, Tim apefan apefan23@... wrote:
              > >
              > > Um...I didn't see one...are you sure you are not having some sort of
              > > spiritual crisis, John? lol
              > >
              > > *shanter2002 john@...* wrote:
              > >
              > > If you don't have #5 of the Marvel mag, ignore this posting.If you DO
              > > have it, on page 47 there is a family group pic of Caesar, Lisa and
              > > Corny.Beneath Caesar's chin is a ghostly image of the Virgin Mary.I kid
              > > you not.John, Scrolls.
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > ------------------------------
              > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try


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              Group: pota Message: 44017 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Updates on Hunter's site
              .html
              Not to be outdone by Kass ;-), I've finally gotten around to adding
              some long-overdue additions to my PotA site.

              * New Feature! Things That Never Were! Thanks to Dave Ballard!

              * New Feature! Paperback book scans, both U.S. (from my collection)
              and some German (thanks to Alan Maxwell)

              * Read magazine from 1972. Thanks to Mark DeCew!

              * Japanese Battle movie poster Thanks to Alan Maxwell!

              * The remaining Adventures comic scans (issues 9 through 11) are now
              available. Thanks to James!


              Hunter
              <.html
              Group: pota Message: 44018 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: Smash poster
              .html
              > I see the seller has already put a link to your site!

              Yep! He also contributed the scans of READ magazine, which I just
              added to my site.

              > That will be a
              > cool addition!

              I've already been outbid, and I'm probably not going higher. We'll
              see....

              Hunter
              <.html
              Group: pota Message: 44019 From: James Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: It's a Miracle!
              .html

              No I haven't seen the site but am familar with the Power Records. Hunter's site has a great section on them: https://pota.goatley.com/powerrecords.html" 

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
              >
              > James,
              >
              > Thank you. I see it! Very creepy!!
              >
              > I thought when you had mentioned the image, it would have been a cartoon
              > drawing, which is why I was so curious to see it.
              >
              > I thought that one of the artists (If it is true they were Filipino), had
              > snuck in something religious in a drawing until I saw the scan, so thank
              > you!! This is a link of a site I came across the internet a few weeks ago:
              >
              > http://iagainstcomics.blogspot.com/2007/10/beneath-planet-of-apes-power-records.htmlbr>>
              >
              > Have you seen it before?
              >
              > Jessica.
              >
              >
              > On Dec 3, 2007 3:27 AM, James JamesA1102@... wrote:
              >
              > > *Here you go and there is something there.*
              > >
              > >
              > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" jessicarotich@ wrote:
              > > >
              > > > Can I please see a scan of this? I am curious!!
              > > >
              > > > Jessica.
              > > >
              > > >
              > > > On 12/2/07, Tim apefan apefan23@ wrote:
              > > > >
              > > > > Um...I didn't see one...are you sure you are not having some sort of
              > > > > spiritual crisis, John? lol
              > > > >
              > > > > *shanter2002 john@* wrote:
              > > > >
              > > > > If you don't have #5 of the Marvel mag, ignore this posting.If you DO
              > > > > have it, on page 47 there is a family group pic of Caesar, Lisa and
              > > > > Corny.Beneath Caesar's chin is a ghostly image of the Virgin Mary.Ikid
              > > > > you not.John, Scrolls.
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > > ------------------------------
              > > > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile.
              > > Try
              > > > > it now.<
              > > http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51731/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ%0A
              > > >
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >

              <.html
              Group: pota Message: 44020 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: Updates on Hunter's site
              .html
              I just added a scan of the May 1974 issue of THE MONSTER TIMES.

              Thanks to James!

              Hunter
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              Group: pota Message: 44021 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/3/2007
              Subject: Re: Updates on Hunter's site
              .html
              > I just added a scan of the May 1974 issue of THE MONSTER TIMES.

              The URL would probably be useful, too:

              https://pota.goatley.com/

              Hunter
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              Group: pota Message: 44022 From: junglejom Date: 12/4/2007
              Subject: Re: Subway Terror in NY
              .html
              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
              >
              > Is the artwork on the "New York is a Summer Festival" poster that Brent
              > is holding:
              >
              > http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/view/99bf?b=11
              >
              > http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/view/99bf?b=12
              >
              > based on an actual advertising campaign, or what was used in the original
              > film? If it's the latter, how did you get to see the whole image? From
              > what I remember, you only see part of the poster when Brent is looking at
              > it.
              >
              >
              > Chris L.
              >
              I actually created a framed poster complete with melted plastic here is a link
              http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?
              p=481981&highlight=summer+festival#post481981
              <.html
              Group: pota Message: 44023 From: James Date: 12/4/2007
              Subject: Re: Subway Terror in NY
              .html

              Here it is with the link fixed.


              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "junglejom" <junglejom@...> wrote:
              > >
              > I actually created a framed poster complete with melted plastic here is a link
              > http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?p=481981&highlight=summer+festival#post481981
              >

              <.html
              Group: pota Message: 44024 From: junglejom Date: 12/4/2007
              Subject: Re: Subway Terror in NY
              .html
              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
              >
              >
              > Here it is with the link fixed.
              >
              >
              > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "junglejom" <junglejom@> wrote:
              > > >
              > > I actually created a framed poster complete with melted plastic here
              > is a link
              > >
              > http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?p=481981&highlight=s\
              > ummer+festival#post481981
              > <http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?p=481981&highlight=\
              > summer+festival#post481981>
              > >
              >
              Thanks for fixing that link, James... I obviously did not do it properly
              <.html
              Group: pota Message: 44025 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/4/2007
              Subject: Re: Updates on Hunter's site
              .html
              I want to just move in to Hunter's website and live there....

              Tim

              Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
              > I just added a scan of the May 1974 issue of THE MONSTER TIMES.

              The URL would probably be useful, too:

              https://pota. goatley.com/

              Hunter


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              Group: pota Message: 44026 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/4/2007
              Subject: Re: Subway Terror in NY
              .html
              great work! Do you have a pic of the poster without the gunk on it?

              junglejom <junglejom@...> wrote:
              --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@. ..> wrote:
              >
              > Is the artwork on the "New York is a Summer Festival" poster that Brent
              > is holding:
              >
              > http://movies. ph.groups. yahoo.com/ group/pota/ photos/view/ 99bf?b=11
              >
              > http://movies. ph.groups. yahoo.com/ group/pota/ photos/view/ 99bf?b=12
              >
              > based on an actual advertising campaign, or what was used in the original
              > film? If it's the latter, how did you get to see the whole image? From
              > what I remember, you only see part of the poster when Brent is looking at
              > it.
              >
              >
              > Chris L.
              >
              I actually created a framed poster complete with melted plastic here is a link
              http://sideshowcoll ectors.com/ forums/showthrea d.php?
              p=481981&highlight= summer+festival# post481981



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              Group: pota Message: 44027 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/4/2007
              Subject: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes
              .html
              Watching both PLANET and BENEATH recently I noticed that something died
              between the two movies. In PLANET it's very much alive and in BENEATH
              it's as dead as the Dead Sea. I'm not going to say what it is because
              I want you to try and spot it yourselves and see who's the first that
              knows what I'm talking about. I will give you a couple clues though.
              Certain people are huggers of them and it's located in Ape City. Funny
              I've never paid any attention to it before, but it really stood out
              this time. Poor thing. I wondered why the couldn't have replaced it
              in BENEATH? Was the production that cheap?

              -- Rory


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              <.html
              Group: pota Message: 44028 From: branchbrood Date: 12/4/2007
              Subject: WAS GONE BUT NOW I'M BACK
              .html
              Hello Apefans,
              Okay I don't wanna get OT here but I gotta tell ya Uh, my name is John
              and I was here over Two Years.This was due to some Personal Problems (I
              drank like a fish! and lets not even get in to the Weed!) but After
              much soul searching and aLOT of rehab I've been clean over a year and I
              hope telling you this I can still be acepted here. IF SO, I'd like to
              has a favor of Mr. Hunter Goatley, I've been Enjoying the Lobbycards
              and Posters Very much,However there is a Mock-Up of a "Classified File"
              containing Memo's from ASNA and Dr. Otto Hasline Reguarding
              the "Talking Apes" So anyway, I got this File open with the Adobe
              Program BUT I can't seem to be able to Print would it be possible to
              get maybe a Jpeg set of these? Thanks OH Btw, For Christmas my Family
              has gotten me the DVD Collection with the Ceaser Head! (AWSOME SET!!)

              THanks Again,
              JOHN
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              Group: pota Message: 44029 From: junglejom Date: 12/4/2007
              Subject: Re: Subway Terror in NY
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              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
              >
              > great work! Do you have a pic of the poster without the gunk on it?
              >
              > junglejom <junglejom@...> wrote: --- In pota@yahoogroups.com,
              Chris Lawless <lawford42@> wrote:
              > >
              > > Is the artwork on the "New York is a Summer Festival" poster that Brent
              > > is holding:
              > >
              > > http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/view/99bf?b=11
              > >
              > > http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/view/99bf?b=12
              > >
              > > based on an actual advertising campaign, or what was used in the original
              > > film? If it's the latter, how did you get to see the whole image? From
              > > what I remember, you only see part of the poster when Brent is looking at
              > > it.
              > >
              > >
              > > Chris L.
              > >
              > I actually created a framed poster complete with melted plastic here is a link
              > http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?
              > p=481981&highlight=summer+festival#post481981
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > ---------------------------------
              > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
              >
              Here is a link to the poster I used before it was framed and the plastic was applied

              http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?
              attachmentid=2995&d=1180387240
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              Group: pota Message: 44030 From: James Date: 12/5/2007
              Subject: Re: Subway Terror in NY
              .html

              Here it is with the link fixed.

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "junglejom" <junglejom@...> wrote:
              >
              > >
              > Here is a link to the poster I used before it was framed and the plastic was applied
              >
              > http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2995&d=1180387240
              >

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              Group: pota Message: 44031 From: Dave B Date: 12/5/2007
              Subject: Re: WAS GONE BUT NOW I'M BACK
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              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "branchbrood" <branchbrood@...> wrote:
              >
              > Hello Apefans,
              > Okay I don't wanna get OT here but I gotta tell ya Uh, my name is John
              > and I was here over Two Years.

              Welcome back, John.

              Were you the guy who made the model kits?

              Dave
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              Group: pota Message: 44032 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/5/2007
              Subject: Re: WAS GONE BUT NOW I'M BACK
              .html
              > I've been clean over a year

              Good deal!

              > IF SO, I'd like to
              > has a favor of Mr. Hunter Goatley, I've been Enjoying the Lobbycards
              > and Posters Very much,However there is a Mock-Up of a "Classified File"
              > containing Memo's from ASNA and Dr. Otto Hasline Reguarding
              > the "Talking Apes" So anyway, I got this File open with the Adobe
              > Program BUT I can't seem to be able to Print would it be possible to
              > get maybe a Jpeg set of these?

              The folks that put it together set the PDF file so that it couldn't be
              printed. It would be up to them to decide otherwise....

              Hunter
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              Group: pota Message: 44033 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 12/5/2007
              Subject: Re: WAS GONE BUT NOW I'M BACK
              .html
              Welcome back and congrats!

              Tim

              branchbrood <branchbrood@...> wrote:
              Hello Apefans,
              Okay I don't wanna get OT here but I gotta tell ya Uh, my name is John
              and I was here over Two Years.This was due to some Personal Problems (I
              drank like a fish! and lets not even get in to the Weed!) but After
              much soul searching and aLOT of rehab I've been clean over a year and I
              hope telling you this I can still be acepted here. IF SO, I'd like to
              has a favor of Mr. Hunter Goatley, I've been Enjoying the Lobbycards
              and Posters Very much,However there is a Mock-Up of a "Classified File"
              containing Memo's from ASNA and Dr. Otto Hasline Reguarding
              the "Talking Apes" So anyway, I got this File open with the Adobe
              Program BUT I can't seem to be able to Print would it be possible to
              get maybe a Jpeg set of these? Thanks OH Btw, For Christmas my Family
              has gotten me the DVD Collection with the Ceaser Head! (AWSOME SET!!)

              THanks Again,
              JOHN



              Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

              <.html
              Group: pota Message: 44034 From: James Date: 12/5/2007
              Subject: Re: WAS GONE BUT NOW I'M BACK
              .html

              The good news is that thanks to Dave Ballard we will be having a contest soon where a printed copy of the Briefing Dossier is one of the prizes.

              Stay tuned for details.

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
              >
              >
              > The folks that put it together set the PDF file so that it couldn't be
              > printed. It would be up to them to decide otherwise....
              >
              > Hunter
              >

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              Group: pota Message: 44035 From: James Date: 12/5/2007
              Subject: Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes
              .html

              Well my first thought was Heston's acting. But considering the hugging clue would it be trees or a particular tree?

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
              >
              > Watching both PLANET and BENEATH recently I noticed that something died
              > between the two movies. In PLANET it's very much alive and in BENEATH
              > it's as dead as the Dead Sea. I'm not going to say what it is because
              > I want you to try and spot it yourselves and see who's the first that
              > knows what I'm talking about. I will give you a couple clues though.
              > Certain people are huggers of them and it's located in Ape City. Funny
              > I've never paid any attention to it before, but it really stood out
              > this time. Poor thing. I wondered why the couldn't have replaced it
              > in BENEATH? Was the production that cheap?
              >
              > -- Rory
              >
              >
              > ____________> More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! -

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              Group: pota Message: 44036 From: James Date: 12/5/2007
              Subject: Re: WAS GONE BUT NOW I'M BACK
              .html

              Hey John,

              Welcome back. Glad things are better for you now. Hope you like some of the group's new features.

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "branchbrood" <branchbrood@...> wrote:
              >
              > Hello Apefans,
              > Okay I don't wanna get OT here but I gotta tell ya Uh, my name is John
              > and I was here over Two Years.This was due to some Personal Problems (I
              > drank like a fish! and lets not even get in to the Weed!) but After
              > much soul searching and aLOT of rehab I've been clean over a year and I
              > hope telling you this I can still be acepted here. IF SO, I'd like to
              > has a favor of Mr. Hunter Goatley, I've been Enjoying the Lobbycards
              > and Posters Very much,However there is a Mock-Up of a "Classified File"
              > containing Memo's from ASNA and Dr. Otto Hasline Reguarding
              > the "Talking Apes" So anyway, I got this File open with the Adobe
              > Program BUT I can't seem to be able to Print would it be possible to
              > get maybe a Jpeg set of these? Thanks OH Btw, For Christmas my Family
              > has gotten me the DVD Collection with the Ceaser Head! (AWSOME SET!!)
              >
              > THanks Again,
              > JOHN
              >

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              Group: pota Message: 44037 From: shanter2002 Date: 12/5/2007
              Subject: Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes
              .html
              Is it that tree on the causeway, the one with the big hairy balls you
              see in some publicity shots by the Lawgiver's statue? I know that one
              member of the Planet cast who was not in Beneath definitely liked
              hugging big hairy balls. John, Scrolls.
              >
              >
              > Well my first thought was Heston's acting. But considering the
              hugging
              > clue would it be trees or a particular tree?
              >
              > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
              > >
              > > Watching both PLANET and BENEATH recently I noticed that something
              > died
              > > between the two movies. In PLANET it's very much alive and in
              BENEATH
              > > it's as dead as the Dead Sea. I'm not going to say what it is
              because
              > > I want you to try and spot it yourselves and see who's the first
              that
              > > knows what I'm talking about. I will give you a couple clues
              though.
              > > Certain people are huggers of them and it's located in Ape City.
              Funny
              > > I've never paid any attention to it before, but it really stood
              out
              > > this time. Poor thing. I wondered why the couldn't have replaced
              it
              > > in BENEATH? Was the production that cheap?
              > >
              > > -- Rory
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 44038 From: Bobby Smyth Date: 12/5/2007
              Subject: Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes
              .html
              It has to be a tree..hmm hairy ball tree? not sure i'd wanna hug one
              of them..a naked female tree now that would be different lol
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              Group: pota Message: 44039 From: Robin Medford Date: 12/5/2007
              Subject: Hello there!!!!!!!!!!
              .html
              Hello there!!!!

              I had joined your P.O.T.A. Group quite recently – it's fantastic to
              see many people who are still frantic about the APES phenomenon as
              myself - & it's also welcoming to see more info / site links towards
              APES info new to myself!

              I have been a fan here in the U.K. since being a child in the early
              70s during the debut screening of the live action/animated TV
              shows…straight down to the screenings of the 5 movies on TV later on

              I've also been collecting memorabilia of both the TV shows & the
              movies, ranging from the British & U.S. comic books, mags, & novels…to
              posters, soundtracks, videos & DVDs

              As an artist, I've illustrated various characters from the world of
              tv/ movie Sci-Fi for galleries, fanzines, conventions, etc. & very
              soon I'll be showing some of my tributes to the P.O.T.A. trilogy!

              Speak again soon!!!

              Rob
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              Group: pota Message: 44040 From: easy come Date: 12/5/2007
              Subject: Re: Hello there!!!!!!!!!!
              .html
              Attachments :
                yes, even the soundtrack cds to Beneath and Escape are
                a nice find! if you can find them !!
                --- Robin Medford <robinartwork60@...> wrote:

                > Hello there!!!!
                >
                > I had joined your P.O.T.A. Group quite recently –
                > it's fantastic to
                > see many people who are still frantic about the APES
                > phenomenon as
                > myself - & it's also welcoming to see more info /
                > site links towards
                > APES info new to myself!
                >
                > I have been a fan here in the U.K. since being a
                > child in the early
                > 70s during the debut screening of the live
                > action/animated TV
                > shows…straight down to the screenings of the 5
                > movies on TV later on
                >
                > I've also been collecting memorabilia of both the
                > TV shows & the
                > movies, ranging from the British & U.S. comic books,
                > mags, & novels…to
                > posters, soundtracks, videos & DVDs
                >
                > As an artist, I've illustrated various characters
                > from the world of
                > tv/ movie Sci-Fi for galleries, fanzines,
                > conventions, etc. & very
                > soon I'll be showing some of my tributes to the
                > P.O.T.A. trilogy!
                >
                > Speak again soon!!!
                >
                > Rob
                >
                >
                >



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                Group: pota Message: 44041 From: jessica rotich Date: 12/5/2007
                Subject: Re: Hello there!!!!!!!!!!
                .html
                Rob,

                Welcome.  I am also a new member even though I have been in love with the movies and anything P.O.T.A.-related for a VERY long time.  My worst years of fanatical apelove was in highschool, but with college, marriage and kids, my fervor subsided--a little...until I found this group!  My earliest memories, if I may now confess, is that I would have my dad cut my hair short when I was in grade school almost like a boy's haircut.  I would love to see my hair fall on the back of my hand and imagine that I were an ape.  I never told anyone, but since this group would understand I might as well fess up!  I can't wait to see your artwork.
                 
                Jessica.

                On Dec 5, 2007 12:18 PM, easy come <easycomeeasygo333@...> wrote:

                yes, even the soundtrack cds to Beneath and Escape are
                a nice find! if you can find them !!


                --- Robin Medford <robinartwork60@...> wrote:

                > Hello there!!!!
                >
                > I had joined your P.O.T.A. Group quite recently –
                > it's fantastic to
                > see many people who are still frantic about the APES
                > phenomenon as
                > myself - & it's also welcoming to see more info /
                > site links towards
                > APES info new to myself!
                >
                > I have been a fan here in the U.K. since being a
                > child in the early
                > 70s during the debut screening of the live
                > action/animated TV
                > shows…straight down to the screenings of the 5
                > movies on TV later on
                >
                > I've also been collecting memorabilia of both the
                > TV shows & the
                > movies, ranging from the British & U.S. comic books,
                > mags, & novels…to
                > posters, soundtracks, videos & DVDs
                >
                > As an artist, I've illustrated various characters
                > from the world of
                > tv/ movie Sci-Fi for galleries, fanzines,
                > conventions, etc. & very
                > soon I'll be showing some of my tributes to the
                > P.O.T.A. trilogy!
                >
                > Speak again soon!!!
                >
                > Rob
                >
                >
                >

                __________________________________________________________
                Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
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                Group: pota Message: 44042 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 12/5/2007
                Subject: Re: Hello there!!!!!!!!!!
                .html
                > I would love
                > to see my hair fall on the back of my hand and imagine that I were an ape.

                Wow, what a freak!

                > I never told anyone, but since this group would understand I might as well
                > fess up!

                Oh. Er, yeah, um, me too!

                8-)

                (I used to go around the playground, doing my best to emulate a chimp
                muzzle with my lips and nose....)

                Hunter
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                Group: pota Message: 44043 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/5/2007
                Subject: Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes
                .html
                Yeah, I'm talking about the big pine tree near the center of Ape City.
                I'll bet it was a transplant. Quite dead by the time they shot BENEATH
                in '69.

                Has anyone here been on Google Earth lately? They give you a pretty
                good look at the Malibu area now and someone has posted where the Ape
                City set was. If you zoom in over the Malibu are north of LA, then
                under "Layers" in the lower left corner click on "Gallery" and type in
                Ape City above in "Fly To" it'll take you right to the spot. I can now
                see clearly where not just Ape City was, but the Rock Pool and the
                field where the Cornfield was planted, which is across from a Hindu
                Temple. I'm sure Jeff Krueger can verify this.

                -----Original Message-----
                From: James <JamesA1102@...>
                To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 9:28 am
                Subject: [POTA] Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes







                Well my first thought was Heston's acting. But considering the hugging
                clue would it be trees or a particular tree?

                --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
                >
                > Watching both PLANET and BENEATH recently I noticed that something
                died
                > between the two movies. In PLANET it's very much alive and in BENEATH
                > it's as dead as the Dead Sea. I'm not going to say what it is because
                > I want you to try and spot it yourselves and see who's the first that
                > knows what I'm talking about. I will give you a couple clues though.
                > Certain people are huggers of them and it's located in Ape City.
                Funny
                > I've never paid any attention to it before, but it really stood out
                > this time. Poor thing. I wondered why the couldn't have replaced it
                > in BENEATH? Was the production that cheap?
                >
                > -- Rory
                >
                >
                >
                ____________ ____________
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                Group: pota Message: 44044 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/5/2007
                Subject: Where the Cornfield was...
                .html
                Attachments :
                  I forgot to include this photo I've found of Malibu Creek State Park.
                  I believe this is where the cornfield was in PLANET (although more to
                  the left outside of the shot) and you can find it on Google Earth.

                  -- Rory


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