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Group: pota Message: 44355 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/4/2008
Subject: Re: Three photos I had never encountered before--but maybe you have
Group: pota Message: 44356 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/4/2008
Subject: Re: More Animation Files
Group: pota Message: 44357 From: RedSpy13@aol.com Date: 1/4/2008
Subject: Re: More Animation Files
Group: pota Message: 44358 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/4/2008
Subject: Re: More Animation Files
Group: pota Message: 44359 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/4/2008
Subject: Re: More Animation Files
Group: pota Message: 44360 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/4/2008
Subject: Re: Three photos I had never encountered before--but maybe you have
Group: pota Message: 44361 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 1/4/2008
Subject: Re: More Animation Files
Group: pota Message: 44362 From: James Date: 1/5/2008
Subject: Oh no! The Ape Revolt is Starting!
Group: pota Message: 44363 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/5/2008
Subject: August 1967 LIFE
Group: pota Message: 44364 From: Chris Lawless Date: 1/6/2008
Subject: Re: search for those Astronauts!!!!!!!!
Group: pota Message: 44365 From: kidro85@aol.com Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Will we ever see a new Ape movie?
Group: pota Message: 44366 From: intsgt13 Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: search for those Astronauts!!!!!!!!
Group: pota Message: 44367 From: john rutkoski Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: Oh no! The Ape Revolt is Starting!
Group: pota Message: 44368 From: shanter2002 Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: Will we ever see a new Ape movie?
Group: pota Message: 44369 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: Will we ever see a new Ape movie?
Group: pota Message: 44370 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: More Animation Files
Group: pota Message: 44371 From: rynldslnd Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Ape Movie
Group: pota Message: 44372 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Movie
Group: pota Message: 44373 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: Will we ever see a new Ape movie?
Group: pota Message: 44374 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Movie
Group: pota Message: 44375 From: Paul Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: NEW POTA MOVIE?
Group: pota Message: 44376 From: Fran Ranier Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Movie
Group: pota Message: 44377 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Movie
Group: pota Message: 44378 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: More Animation Files
Group: pota Message: 44379 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: NEW POTA MOVIE?
Group: pota Message: 44380 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Movie
Group: pota Message: 44381 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Movie
Group: pota Message: 44382 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/8/2008
Subject: Who was Leon Shamroy?
Group: pota Message: 44383 From: zasco1957 Date: 1/8/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Movie
Group: pota Message: 44384 From: zasco1957 Date: 1/8/2008
Subject: Re: Will we ever see a new Ape movie?
Group: pota Message: 44385 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 1/8/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Movie
Group: pota Message: 44386 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 1/8/2008
Subject: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001
Group: pota Message: 44387 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/8/2008
Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001
Group: pota Message: 44388 From: intsgt13 Date: 1/8/2008
Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001
Group: pota Message: 44389 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/8/2008
Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001
Group: pota Message: 44390 From: drhasslein Date: 1/8/2008
Subject: Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 44391 From: intsgt13 Date: 1/8/2008
Subject: Apes Desktop Fun
Group: pota Message: 44392 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/8/2008
Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001
Group: pota Message: 44393 From: intsgt13 Date: 1/8/2008
Subject: Re: Apes Desktop Fun
Group: pota Message: 44394 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/9/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 44395 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/9/2008
Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001
Group: pota Message: 44396 From: lordarthur75062 Date: 1/9/2008
Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001
Group: pota Message: 44397 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/9/2008
Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001
Group: pota Message: 44398 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/9/2008
Subject: Re: Apes Desktop Fun
Group: pota Message: 44399 From: intsgt13 Date: 1/9/2008
Subject: Re: Apes Desktop Fun
Group: pota Message: 44400 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/9/2008
Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA200
Group: pota Message: 44401 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/9/2008
Subject: I have a question regarding the 1968 movie...
Group: pota Message: 44402 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/9/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 44403 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/9/2008
Subject: Re: I have a question regarding the 1968 movie...
Group: pota Message: 44404 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/9/2008
Subject: Fox, you bloody....!
Group: pota Message: 44405 From: thisizit73 Date: 1/9/2008
Subject: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44406 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/9/2008
Subject: Re: I have a question regarding the 1968 movie...
Group: pota Message: 44407 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/9/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 44408 From: drhasslein Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 44409 From: shanter2002 Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44410 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Re: I have a question regarding the 1968 movie...
Group: pota Message: 44411 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 44412 From: James Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44413 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44414 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44415 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44416 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 44417 From: Jeff Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44418 From: drhasslein Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44419 From: john rutkoski Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44420 From: john rutkoski Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44421 From: Jeff Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44422 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44423 From: James Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: MR Comics RIP?
Group: pota Message: 44424 From: Jeff Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Video Spoof
Group: pota Message: 44425 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 44426 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 44427 From: Ty Templeton Date: 1/10/2008
Subject: Re: MR Comics RIP?
Group: pota Message: 44428 From: Paul Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: Video Spoof
Group: pota Message: 44429 From: pbar100 Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: SFX Magazine - Apes Article
Group: pota Message: 44430 From: thisizit73 Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: in regards to the tear
Group: pota Message: 44431 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44432 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 44433 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 44434 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44435 From: Jeff Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: Video Spoof
Group: pota Message: 44436 From: Jeff Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44437 From: James Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Cornelius' Journal/Group Website Downloads
Group: pota Message: 44438 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44439 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44440 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: in regards to the tear
Group: pota Message: 44441 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44442 From: Jeff Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: PotA Around the World
Group: pota Message: 44443 From: Jeff Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: 2001 Digital Trading Cards
Group: pota Message: 44444 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: in regards to the tear
Group: pota Message: 44445 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44446 From: Jeff Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: in regards to the tear
Group: pota Message: 44447 From: Jeff Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44448 From: Jeff Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44449 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: In regards to the tear....
Group: pota Message: 44450 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44451 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44452 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 44453 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Re: in regards to the tear
Group: pota Message: 44454 From: Jeff Date: 1/11/2008
Subject: Windows Desktop Themes



Group: pota Message: 44355 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/4/2008
Subject: Re: Three photos I had never encountered before--but maybe you have
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I didn't know how to access the other photos, so thank you!!!!  Most of these I have never seen before!!

On Jan 4, 2008 4:24 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Thanks Jessica and Mark! I love behind the scenes photos!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rkid67" <rkid67@...> wrote:
>
> If you go to www.magnumphotos.com and type in planet of the apes in the search field,
> you'll see more photos. Most I have never seen.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rkid67" rkid67@ wrote:
> >
> > Thanks! I've never seen these photos before.
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > >
> > > "From January 7th until the 26th, "PLANET OF THE APES" exhibition by Dennis
> > > Stock. Born in 1928, Dennis Stock joined Magnum in 1951 after receiving
> > > magazine LIFE's young photography award. He became famous thanks to his
> > > memorable James Dean pictures as well as his jazz musicians ones, taken
> > > between 1957 and 1960. This serie of photographs taken in 1967 on the
> > > filming of "Planet of the Apes" is very peculiar because confronting
> > > costumes of the movie and every day life in Los Angeles.
> > > For the 60th anniversary of Magnum Photos & for the movie's 40th, a 12
> > > silver film prints portofolio will be edited and available at colette during
> > > the exhibition. Only 12 portfolios available. " -
> > > *Colette.*< http://www.colette.fr/>
> > > Planet of the Apes, alongside numerous other pop culture phenomenoms has
> > > been an ongoing inspiration in streetwear since its beginning, this show
> > > looks deep into the original era and what made the film such a big hit,
> > > aswell as of course showcasing the amazing work of Dennis stock.
> > >
> > > http://www.slamxhype.com/2008/01/03/planet-of-the-apes-by-dennis-stock
> > >
> >
>


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Group: pota Message: 44356 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/4/2008
Subject: Re: More Animation Files
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Jeff, can you please e-mail them to me?  I can't seem to access them.

On Jan 4, 2008 4:23 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Thanks again Jeff for you generosity.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "intsgt13" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings, everyone. I have just uploaded four new animations to the
> cartoon/animation folder in the Files Section. Get them fast, before
> they disappear into the Forbidden Zone! Enjoy!
>
> Jeff (RedSpy)
>


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Group: pota Message: 44357 From: RedSpy13@aol.com Date: 1/4/2008
Subject: Re: More Animation Files
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Jessica, do you need all of them, or just the four newest ones?  Jeff (RedSpy)
 
In a message dated 1/4/2008 3:56:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

Jeff, can you please e-mail them to me?  I can't seem to access them.

On Jan 4, 2008 4:23 AM, James <JamesA1102@aol. com> wrote:

Thanks again Jeff for you generosity.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "intsgt13" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings, everyone. I have just uploaded four new animations to the
> cartoon/animation folder in the Files Section. Get them fast, before
> they disappear into the Forbidden Zone! Enjoy!
>
> Jeff (RedSpy)
>






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Group: pota Message: 44358 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/4/2008
Subject: Re: More Animation Files
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Hey guys:
 
So glad to be aboard. Those pics of the astronauts (studio head shots) were something ive been looking for for years....any idea where i can get some 8x10s or 11x17 of Dodge and Landon? Thanks!
 
Mario Medina

Huntleigh Latin America
2602 NW 97 Avenue
Miami, FL 33172
Tel: 305-463-0526
Fax: 305-463-0216
E-mail: mariohnelatin@... or hnelatin@...
http://www.huntleigh-healthcare.com/





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Group: pota Message: 44359 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/4/2008
Subject: Re: More Animation Files
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Jeff, just the the newest ones.  Thank you!!
 
Jessica.

On Jan 4, 2008 12:59 PM, <RedSpy13@...> wrote:

Jessica, do you need all of them, or just the four newest ones?  Jeff (RedSpy)
 
In a message dated 1/4/2008 3:56:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

Jeff, can you please e-mail them to me?  I can't seem to access them.

On Jan 4, 2008 4:23 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Thanks again Jeff for you generosity.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "intsgt13" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings, everyone. I have just uploaded four new animations to the
> cartoon/animation folder in the Files Section. Get them fast, before
> they disappear into the Forbidden Zone! Enjoy!
>
> Jeff (RedSpy)
>






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Group: pota Message: 44360 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/4/2008
Subject: Re: Three photos I had never encountered before--but maybe you have
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"I didn't know how to access the other photos, so thank you!!!! Most
of these I have never seen before!!"

It's cool to see the little glimpses into the world of 1967. Damn, I
miss those days, especially when I watch the evening news today.
Vietnam, assassinations, riots, who cares? At least there were less
people back then!

-- Rory





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Group: pota Message: 44361 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 1/4/2008
Subject: Re: More Animation Files
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go to ebay stores and under search type in 'planet of the apes photo'  sometimes they have some interesting (repro) cast shots.

Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: mariohnelatin@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 4:24 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: More Animation Files

Hey guys:
 
So glad to be aboard. Those pics of the astronauts (studio head shots) were something ive been looking for for years....any idea where i can get some 8x10s or 11x17 of Dodge and Landon? Thanks!
 
Mario Medina

Huntleigh Latin America
2602 NW 97 Avenue
Miami, FL 33172
Tel: 305-463-0526
Fax: 305-463-0216
E-mail: mariohnelatin@ aol.com or hnelatin@aol. com
http://www.huntleig h-healthcare. com/





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Group: pota Message: 44362 From: James Date: 1/5/2008
Subject: Oh no! The Ape Revolt is Starting!
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Group: pota Message: 44363 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/5/2008
Subject: August 1967 LIFE
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I recently mentioned the issue of Life from 1967 with the article and
pictures about a movie coming out soon called PLANET OF THE APES....

Here it is for sale on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/AUGUST-18-1967-LIFE-MAG-VERUSCHKA_W0QQitemZ140018560700QQihZ004QQcategoryZ280QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118

-- Rory


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Group: pota Message: 44364 From: Chris Lawless Date: 1/6/2008
Subject: Re: search for those Astronauts!!!!!!!!
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That's it. If anyone plans on going, be sure to bring lots of money...
 
Thanks Rory!
 
 
Chris L.
 
 
 
"Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
 
>>Jerry Orlinger's Movie Material Store? <<
 
 
I wrote:
 
>>I'm pretty sure I've seen a mid-close up of Robert Gunner (as
Landon)
without a beard in his white uniform, and if that's the case I have to
believe there was one done for Jeff Burton and Dianne Stanley. There's a
place in NYC that has a lot of 8x10 movie/TV photos from just about
anything you can image, and the photo of Landon was in one of the POTA
binders. Unfortunately, I can't think of the name of the place right now. Bruce?? <<
 
 
"Robin Medford" <robinartwork60@ yahoo.com> wrote:
 
>>As i'm new to this forum & being such a heavy POTA fan,
collecting
info & pics of the astronauts from the first 2 movies, can anyone tell
me if there was a close-up studio /sitting portraits of Jeff Burton as
Dodge, Tod Andrews ( Skipper) & James Franciscus ( Brent), in ANSA
costumes , like Heston ( with & without beard), Gunner & Stanley
( Stewart) <<<.html
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Group: pota Message: 44365 From: kidro85@aol.com Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Will we ever see a new Ape movie?
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I'm only on this group from time to time, its a great group! To all the POTA experts do you think theres a chance we will ever see a new Ape movie, TV show or cartoon? Comics are cool, but i want to see a movie pick up where Battle left off or a different timeline. The Burton movie did nothing for me. Any talk of any sort of Ape film at all?
 
Also why wouldn't a new POTA movie or tv show be made, wouldn't it make big money for sure?
 
 
And someone told me re-issue's of the old mego POTA toys might be made, when is this planned to happen?
 
Thanks --Tony 




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Group: pota Message: 44366 From: intsgt13 Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: search for those Astronauts!!!!!!!!
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Greetings, everyone. There are some good photos of the astronauts in
their uniforms on this page, including a nice protrait shot of
Stewart.

http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/ApesShip/Gallery/Costumes/PofAcostumStills.htm






--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> That's it. If anyone plans on going, be sure to bring lots of
money...
>
> Thanks Rory!
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
>
> >>Jerry Orlinger's Movie Material Store? <<
>
>
> I wrote:
>
> >>I'm pretty sure I've seen a mid-close up of Robert Gunner (as
Landon)
> without a beard in his white uniform, and if that's the case I have
to
> believe there was one done for Jeff Burton and Dianne Stanley.
There's a
> place in NYC that has a lot of 8x10 movie/TV photos from just about
> anything you can image, and the photo of Landon was in one of the
POTA
> binders. Unfortunately, I can't think of the name of the place
right now.
> Bruce?? <<
>
>
> "Robin Medford" <robinartwork60@...> wrote:
>
> >>As i'm new to this forum & being such a heavy POTA fan,
collecting
> info & pics of the astronauts from the first 2 movies, can anyone
tell
> me if there was a close-up studio /sitting portraits of Jeff Burton
as
> Dodge, Tod Andrews ( Skipper) & James Franciscus ( Brent), in ANSA
> costumes , like Heston ( with & without beard), Gunner & Stanley
> ( Stewart) <<
>
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Group: pota Message: 44367 From: john rutkoski Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: Oh no! The Ape Revolt is Starting!
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i knew it    it's just a matter of time

James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:


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Group: pota Message: 44368 From: shanter2002 Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: Will we ever see a new Ape movie?
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The re-issue of some of the Megos is suposed to be later this year,
but, being the gnarled, cynical old Apes fan that I am, I'm prepared
fully for delay and disappointment. Speaking of which, I, personally,
totally believe that there WILL be a screen return for new Apes
someday and my guess is that it will be the big screen rather than
small, simply because Apes makes money, no matter how bad you do
it.As Burton proved.John, Scrolls.
>
> I'm only on this group from time to time, its a great group! To
all the POTA
> experts do you think theres a chance we will ever see a new Ape
movie, TV
> show or cartoon? Comics are cool, but i want to see a movie pick
up where
> Battle left off or a different timeline. The Burton movie did
nothing for me. Any
> talk of any sort of Ape film at all?
>
> Also why wouldn't a new POTA movie or tv show be made, wouldn't it
make big
> money for sure?
>
>
> And someone told me re-issue's of the old mego POTA toys might be
made, when
> is this planned to happen?
>
> Thanks --Tony
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 44369 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: Will we ever see a new Ape movie?
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  Same old same old. No news on a new "Apes". Burton's film and it's reputation buried it. It is possible to revive it and be successful (it's called "making a good movie") but Fox doesn't want to bother. They're in the burying franchises business (*cough* "Alien vs. Predator 2 *cough*).  Jeff
 
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Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:45 PM
Subject: [pota] Will we ever see a new Ape movie?

I'm only on this group from time to time, its a great group! To all the POTA experts do you think theres a chance we will ever see a new Ape movie, TV show or cartoon? Comics are cool, but i want to see a movie pick up where Battle left off or a different timeline. The Burton movie did nothing for me. Any talk of any sort of Ape film at all?
 
Also why wouldn't a new POTA movie or tv show be made, wouldn't it make big money for sure?
 
 
And someone told me re-issue's of the old mego POTA toys might be made, when is this planned to happen?
 
Thanks --Tony 




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Group: pota Message: 44370 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: More Animation Files
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thanks Bruce
 
Mario Medina

Huntleigh Latin America
2602 NW 97 Avenue
Miami, FL 33172
Tel: 305-463-0526
Fax: 305-463-0216
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Group: pota Message: 44371 From: rynldslnd Date: 1/7/2008
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It would be nice they made another Planet of the Apes movie. This year
in 2008 Planet of the Apes is 40 yrs old.I would like to see another
ape movie.
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Group: pota Message: 44372 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/7/2008
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You guys know what? POTA would be a great mini-series if they gave it the EPIC treatment. Lets see the lead up to the mission, base it in the 60's space-age where ANSA(rather than NASA) goes the route of space planes rather than capsules. Lets get to know the astronauts before they get so unceremoniously offed on the POTA. That way we can feel the tragedy of their loss more. And...dont kill em off after BTPOTA. Send the 2 astros and Nova on an Odyssey through the planet back to Cape Kennedy to figure out whats happened. Adventures galore!
 
I'm thinking along the lines of the Right Stuff / Contact / Marooned / Ice Station Zebra...a total Cold War / Space Age / 60's period piece...big epic stuff. Comments?
 
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Group: pota Message: 44373 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/7/2008
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I just hope to God that they don't make a prequel to that disaster of a movie when Burton "reimagined" it.  I will be disappointed AGAIN if that happens, and will have to rewatch the original movie for weeks on end to deaden the bile rising from within.
 
Jessica.

On Jan 7, 2008 5:37 AM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

  Same old same old. No news on a new "Apes". Burton's film and it's reputation buried it. It is possible to revive it and be successful (it's called "making a good movie") but Fox doesn't want to bother. They're in the burying franchises business (*cough* "Alien vs. Predator 2 *cough*).  Jeff
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:45 PM
Subject: [pota] Will we ever see a new Ape movie?

I'm only on this group from time to time, its a great group! To all the POTA experts do you think theres a chance we will ever see a new Ape movie, TV show or cartoon? Comics are cool, but i want to see a movie pick up where Battle left off or a different timeline. The Burton movie did nothing for me. Any talk of any sort of Ape film at all?
 
Also why wouldn't a new POTA movie or tv show be made, wouldn't it make big money for sure?
 
 
And someone told me re-issue's of the old mego POTA toys might be made, when is this planned to happen?
 
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Group: pota Message: 44374 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Movie
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"It would be nice they made another Planet of the Apes movie. This year
in 2008 Planet of the Apes is 40 yrs old. I would like to see another
ape movie."

I don't know... given the depressing things I've been reading and
seeing on TV recently, it would be a lot better if 20th Century Fox
spent a hundred and fifty million trying to keep apes on this planet
from going extinct!

-- Rory


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Group: pota Message: 44375 From: Paul Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: NEW POTA MOVIE?
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It would be very nice as we all agree to have a new movie that is in
keeping the older POTA movies. Is there any way we could all make a
big stink about it?

A new Saturday morning POTA cartoon series would be cool at the least?

The entertainment industry is really stinking things up lately. Cable
tv seems to have watered down all tv, and movies.


~Paul
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Group: pota Message: 44376 From: Fran Ranier Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Movie
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hello to all,
 
I agree that a new apes movie could be successful if done properly.  I would cautiously suggest a remake rather a reimagining (although how does one improve on a classic like the original?).  I still say also, that in spite of the superb makeups provided by Rick Baker, that any future apes movies should get back to the basic of using the original John Chambers makeups.  The makeup is really what made the apes movies what they are (including garnering an academy award).  Also, the budget needs to be large enough to support proper makeup for all the apes, including the apes used in crowd scenes-no over-the-head masks with gaping holes around the eyes.
 
would be curious if anyone agrees with me
 
Fran
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Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 1:41 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Ape Movie

"It would be nice they made another Planet of the Apes movie. This year
in 2008 Planet of the Apes is 40 yrs old. I would like to see another
ape movie."

I don't know... given the depressing things I've been reading and
seeing on TV recently, it would be a lot better if 20th Century Fox
spent a hundred and fifty million trying to keep apes on this planet
from going extinct!

-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 44377 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 1/7/2008
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I could see that. More details on Ape culture too. And maybe Nova's tribe.

Bruce


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Sent: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:13 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Ape Movie

You guys know what? POTA would be a great mini-series if they gave it the EPIC treatment. Lets see the lead up to the mission, base it in the 60's space-age where ANSA(rather than NASA) goes the route of space planes rather than capsules. Lets get to know the astronauts before they get so unceremoniously offed on the POTA. That way we can feel the tragedy of their loss more. And...dont kill em off after BTPOTA. Send the 2 astros and Nova on an Odyssey through the planet back to Cape Kennedy to figure out whats happened. Adventures galore!
 
I'm thinking along the lines of the Right Stuff / Contact / Marooned / Ice Station Zebra...a total Cold War / Space Age / 60's period piece...big epic stuff. Comments?
 
Mario Medina

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Group: pota Message: 44378 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: More Animation Files
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My pleasure.

Bruce


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Sent: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 9:08 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: More Animation Files

thanks Bruce
 
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Group: pota Message: 44379 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 1/7/2008
Subject: Re: NEW POTA MOVIE?
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I would like it- I LOVED the animated series as a kid...Maybe an HBO kinda thing?

On Jan 7, 2008 1:38 PM, Paul <p3murds@...> wrote:

It would be very nice as we all agree to have a new movie that is in
keeping the older POTA movies. Is there any way we could all make a
big stink about it?

A new Saturday morning POTA cartoon series would be cool at the least?

The entertainment industry is really stinking things up lately. Cable
tv seems to have watered down all tv, and movies.

~Paul




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Group: pota Message: 44380 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/7/2008
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Big thumbs up on using the original John Chambers makeup. I recently saw a documentary on early man. The makeup resembled the original POTA makeup. Very dramatic, very effective...and yes a remake is the only way to go.Just giving it a big treatment and a serious treatment is the ticket. How about a bunch of us freaks head to lake powell for a fan film...30 minutes long. Any crazies out there like us?
 
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Group: pota Message: 44381 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/7/2008
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Fran,
 
I totally agree-the original cannot really be improved.  If you were to do a story, then it should not be a reimagination at all--it should be a continuation, with all the bells and whistles.  The makeup needs to go back to the success by the original John Chambers makeup.  The newer makeup by Rick Baker is somewhat disturbing to me--I don't find them the least bit attractive.  Everything you said is so true to me.  Thank you for saying it.
 
Jessica.
On Jan 7, 2008 12:53 PM, Fran Ranier <franierrph@...> wrote:

hello to all,
 
I agree that a new apes movie could be successful if done properly.  I would cautiously suggest a remake rather a reimagining (although how does one improve on a classic like the original?).  I still say also, that in spite of the superb makeups provided by Rick Baker, that any future apes movies should get back to the basic of using the original John Chambers makeups.  The makeup is really what made the apes movies what they are (including garnering an academy award).  Also, the budget needs to be large enough to support proper makeup for all the apes, including the apes used in crowd scenes-no over-the-head masks with gaping holes around the eyes.
 
would be curious if anyone agrees with me
 
Fran
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 1:41 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Ape Movie

"It would be nice they made another Planet of the Apes movie. This year
in 2008 Planet of the Apes is 40 yrs old. I would like to see another
ape movie."

I don't know... given the depressing things I've been reading and
seeing on TV recently, it would be a lot better if 20th Century Fox
spent a hundred and fifty million trying to keep apes on this planet
from going extinct!

-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 44382 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/8/2008
Subject: Who was Leon Shamroy?
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I just discovered this cool web page about Leon Shamroy, just in case
anyone here cares:

http://www.cinematographers.nl/GreatDoPh/shamroy.htm

-- Rory


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Group: pota Message: 44383 From: zasco1957 Date: 1/8/2008
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    I think that it would be a fantastic idea.
     
    Zach   
     
    -------Original Message-------
     
    Date: 1/7/2008 4:41:09 PM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Ape Movie
     

    I could see that. More details on Ape culture too. And maybe Nova's tribe.

    Bruce


    -----Original Message-----
    From: mariohnelatin@ aol.com
    To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    Sent: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:13 am
    Subject: Re: [pota] Ape Movie

    You guys know what? POTA would be a great mini-series if they gave it the EPIC treatment. Lets see the lead up to the mission, base it in the 60's space-age where ANSA(rather than NASA) goes the route of space planes rather than capsules. Lets get to know the astronauts before they get so unceremoniously offed on the POTA. That way we can feel the tragedy of their loss more. And...dont kill em off after BTPOTA. Send the 2 astros and Nova on an Odyssey through the planet back to Cape Kennedy to figure out whats happened. Adventures galore!
     
    I'm thinking along the lines of the Right Stuff / Contact / Marooned / Ice Station Zebra...a total Cold War / Space Age / 60's period piece...big epic stuff. Comments?
     
    Mario Medina

    Huntleigh Latin America
    2602 NW 97 Avenue
    Miami, FL 33172
    Tel: 305-463-0526
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    Group: pota Message: 44384 From: zasco1957 Date: 1/8/2008
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      You said it, Jessica!  That 2001 remake stank big time.
       
      Zach   
       
      -------Original Message-------
       
      Date: 1/7/2008 1:21:00 PM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] Will we ever see a new Ape movie?
       

      I just hope to God that they don't make a prequel to that disaster of a movie when Burton "reimagined" it.  I will be disappointed AGAIN if that happens, and will have to rewatch the original movie for weeks on end to deaden the bile rising from within.
       
      Jessica.

      On Jan 7, 2008 5:37 AM, Jeff K. <veetus@earthlink. net> wrote:

        Same old same old. No news on a new "Apes". Burton's film and it's reputation buried it. It is possible to revive it and be successful (it's called "making a good movie") but Fox doesn't want to bother. They're in the burying franchises business (*cough* "Alien vs. Predator 2 *cough*).  Jeff
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:45 PM
      Subject: [pota] Will we ever see a new Ape movie?

      I'm only on this group from time to time, its a great group! To all the POTA experts do you think theres a chance we will ever see a new Ape movie, TV show or cartoon? Comics are cool, but i want to see a movie pick up where Battle left off or a different timeline. The Burton movie did nothing for me. Any talk of any sort of Ape film at all?
       
      Also why wouldn't a new POTA movie or tv show be made, wouldn't it make big money for sure?
       
       
      And someone told me re-issue's of the old mego POTA toys might be made, when is this planned to happen?
       
      Thanks --Tony 




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      I'd watch it!
      Bruce


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      From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...>
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 5:42 am
      Subject: Re: [pota] Ape Movie

      I think that it would be a fantastic idea.
       
      Zach   
       
      -------Original Message----- --
       
      Date: 1/7/2008 4:41:09 PM
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      I could see that. More details on Ape culture too. And maybe Nova's tribe.

      Bruce


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      To: pota@yahoogroups. com
      Sent: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:13 am
      Subject: Re: [pota] Ape Movie

      You guys know what? POTA would be a great mini-series if they gave it the EPIC treatment. Lets see the lead up to the mission, base it in the 60's space-age where ANSA(rather than NASA) goes the route of space planes rather than capsules. Lets get to know the astronauts before they get so unceremoniously offed on the POTA. That way we can feel the tragedy of their loss more. And...dont kill em off after BTPOTA. Send the 2 astros and Nova on an Odyssey through the planet back to Cape Kennedy to figure out whats happened. Adventures galore!
       
      I'm thinking along the lines of the Right Stuff / Contact / Marooned / Ice Station Zebra...a total Cold War / Space Age / 60's period piece...big epic stuff. Comments?
       
      Mario Medina

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      Miami, FL 33172
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      Group: pota Message: 44386 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 1/8/2008
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      I avoid all things POTA2001, but was curious about this Ebert & Roeper
      review of it.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYyiCQgOw38&feature=related

      Wow. Roeper calls it the best of the 2001 blockbusters *and* says
      it's better than the original PotA.

      Clearly, he's an idiot.

      Hunter
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      Group: pota Message: 44387 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/8/2008
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      Clearly he needs to be stripped naked and given a loin cloth and hurled into a cornfield and hunted down by the gorillas....
       
      In fact, let me hunt him down myself.
       
      But that's my personal opinion.
       
      Jessica.

      On Jan 8, 2008 2:46 PM, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

      I avoid all things POTA2001, but was curious about this Ebert & Roeper
      review of it.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYyiCQgOw38&feature=related

      Wow. Roeper calls it the best of the 2001 blockbusters *and* says
      it's better than the original PotA.

      Clearly, he's an idiot.

      Hunter


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      Group: pota Message: 44388 From: intsgt13 Date: 1/8/2008
      Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001
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      I agree completely. I don't even think the 2001 film should have had
      the same name. It doesn't compare at all to the outstanding
      original, and shouldn't be hanging on to its coattails.

      Jeff (RedSpy)


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...>
      wrote:
      >
      > Clearly he needs to be stripped naked and given a loin cloth and
      hurled into
      > a cornfield and hunted down by the gorillas....
      >
      > In fact, let me hunt him down myself.
      >
      > But that's my personal opinion.
      >
      > Jessica.
      >
      > On Jan 8, 2008 2:46 PM, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
      >
      > > I avoid all things POTA2001, but was curious about this Ebert &
      Roeper
      > > review of it.
      > >
      > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYyiCQgOw38&feature=related
      > >
      > > Wow. Roeper calls it the best of the 2001 blockbusters *and* says
      > > it's better than the original PotA.
      > >
      > > Clearly, he's an idiot.
      > >
      > > Hunter
      > >
      > >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 44389 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/8/2008
      Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001
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      Jessica:
       
      Hunt that sucker down...I'll stuff him for ya for the musem.
       
      Mario Medina

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      Group: pota Message: 44390 From: drhasslein Date: 1/8/2008
      Subject: Blu-Ray
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      Now that the format war is all but officially over, shouldn't we look
      into a way to lobby Fox to release Blu-ray special editions of the
      sequels before a substandard version is churned out?
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      Group: pota Message: 44391 From: intsgt13 Date: 1/8/2008
      Subject: Apes Desktop Fun
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      Greetings, everyone. I have just added a folder to the Files Section
      called "PotA Desktop Fun". Included are two desktop themes and a set
      of icons based on the 1968 original film, a set of screen savers based
      on the 2001 remake, and a set of Planet of the Taz screen savers. I
      hope you enjoy them! If you have problems with the zipped files, just
      drop me an e-mail (RedSpy13@...) and I will be more than happy to
      send you the unzipped files. Take care!

      Jeff (RedSpy)
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      Group: pota Message: 44392 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/8/2008
      Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001
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      In a message dated 1/8/2008 4:48:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, goathunter@... writes:
      Wow. Roeper calls it the best of the 2001 blockbusters *and* says
      it's better than the original PotA.

      Clearly, he's an idiot.
       
      Ever since Siskel's death I've suspected Roper was Ebert's stooge.
       




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      Greetings again, everyone. I have just added a screen saver based on
      the 1968 original film, and it is great! I have it running on one of
      my computers right now. I hope you enjoy it!

      Jeff (RedSpy)


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "intsgt13" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
      >
      > Greetings, everyone. I have just added a folder to the Files Section
      > called "PotA Desktop Fun". Included are two desktop themes and a set
      > of icons based on the 1968 original film, a set of screen savers
      based
      > on the 2001 remake, and a set of Planet of the Taz screen savers. I
      > hope you enjoy them! If you have problems with the zipped files,
      just
      > drop me an e-mail (RedSpy13@...) and I will be more than happy to
      > send you the unzipped files. Take care!
      >
      > Jeff (RedSpy)
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 44394 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/9/2008
      Subject: Re: Blu-Ray
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      "Now that the format war is all but officially over, shouldn't we look
      into a way to lobby Fox to release Blu-ray special editions of the
      sequels before a substandard version is churned out?"

      I'm glad the format war looks to be over, but I wouldn't hold my breath
      waiting to see PLANET OF THE APES or any of its sequels on Blu-ray
      soon. Sales of DVDs are down and the Blu-ray format isn't exactly
      taking off like a rocket. The argument may go that consumers have been
      waiting for the format war to be settled before they really starting
      getting into high-definition, but I sense most people don't think
      hi-def is that big an improvement and aren't ready to scrape regular
      DVDs just yet, especially if they have big collections. Also, it looks
      like the economy is going into recession, so I expect sales of Blu-ray
      DVD players and software to be soft for a while, hence I don't think
      the studios are going to be in that big a rush to get their older
      library titles out, especially since remastering is going to be
      necessary. I'd be pissed if Fox took the PLANET 35th Anniversary DVD
      transfer and just up scaled it to hi-def. What we have right now isn't
      a true restoration. I've read the film was archivally restored
      recently. I'd like to see the results of that with added digital
      cleanup. Anyway, I think by "substandard version" you mean a Blu-ray
      release that's just the movie, its trailer and little else. Well,
      write Fox and tell them that when they do get around to releasing APES
      on Blu-ray, you want special editions with "all the trimmings." It
      can't hurt and may help, but I wouldn't add that you want it sooner
      rather than later, that'll probably only insure that we will get
      something "substandard." Tell them what you want, but tell them to
      take their time and do it right.

      Even though this is now the 40th anniversary of PLANET, I wouldn't mind
      if a Blu-ray DVD of it doesn't come out until the end of the year or
      even next year.

      As for a "way to lobby Fox".... I think letters work best, especially
      if you send several, but I guess emails and on-line petitions do
      something too. I don't think there's a chance of separate special
      editions of each of the sequels. The best you can hope for is a box
      set of all five films with a new set of featurettes and perhaps
      commentary tracks for each film. Personally, I'd rather hope for a new
      40th Anniversary special edition of the classic original, then worry
      about the sequels later.

      -- Rory


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      Group: pota Message: 44395 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/9/2008
      Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001
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      at least Ebert seemed to be on the mark.....

      Tim

      intsgt13 <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
      I agree completely. I don't even think the 2001 film should have had
      the same name. It doesn't compare at all to the outstanding
      original, and shouldn't be hanging on to its coattails.

      Jeff (RedSpy)

      --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@ ...>
      wrote:
      >
      > Clearly he needs to be stripped naked and given a loin cloth and
      hurled into
      > a cornfield and hunted down by the gorillas....
      >
      > In fact, let me hunt him down myself.
      >
      > But that's my personal opinion.
      >
      > Jessica.
      >
      > On Jan 8, 2008 2:46 PM, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@ ...> wrote:
      >
      > > I avoid all things POTA2001, but was curious about this Ebert &
      Roeper
      > > review of it.
      > >
      > > http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=sYyiCQgOw38& feature=related
      > >
      > > Wow. Roeper calls it the best of the 2001 blockbusters *and* says
      > > it's better than the original PotA.
      > >
      > > Clearly, he's an idiot.
      > >
      > > Hunter
      > >
      > >
      >



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      Group: pota Message: 44396 From: lordarthur75062 Date: 1/9/2008
      Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001
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      To quote Cornelius:
      ''He may be intelligent,but he's also crazy.''


      LordArthur.
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      In a message dated 1/9/2008 8:06:50 A.M. Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:
      at least Ebert seemed to be on the mark.....

      Tim
       
      It's easy to seem that way
      when you have a stooge saying POTA2K1
      is the greatest movie since freakin' Citizen Kane.
       




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      Group: pota Message: 44398 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/9/2008
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      Jeff, thanks for doing this--I couldn't find it before but now I see them!  Awesome!!
       
      Jessica.

      On Jan 8, 2008 5:44 PM, intsgt13 <RedSpy13@...> wrote:

      Greetings again, everyone. I have just added a screen saver based on
      the 1968 original film, and it is great! I have it running on one of
      my computers right now. I hope you enjoy it!

      Jeff (RedSpy)



      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "intsgt13" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
      >
      > Greetings, everyone. I have just added a folder to the Files Section
      > called "PotA Desktop Fun". Included are two desktop themes and a set
      > of icons based on the 1968 original film, a set of screen savers
      based
      > on the 2001 remake, and a set of Planet of the Taz screen savers. I
      > hope you enjoy them! If you have problems with the zipped files,
      just
      > drop me an e-mail (RedSpy13@...) and I will be more than happy to

      > send you the unzipped files. Take care!
      >
      > Jeff (RedSpy)
      >


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      Group: pota Message: 44399 From: intsgt13 Date: 1/9/2008
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      You are very welcome, Jessica. I hope you enjoy them! If you have
      any trouble with the zip files, let me know, and I will be happy to
      send them to you in e-mail. Simian smiles to everyone!

      Jeff (RedSpy)


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...>
      wrote:
      >
      > Jeff, thanks for doing this--I couldn't find it before but now I
      see them!
      > Awesome!!
      >
      > Jessica.
      >
      > On Jan 8, 2008 5:44 PM, intsgt13 <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
      >
      > > Greetings again, everyone. I have just added a screen saver
      based on
      > > the 1968 original film, and it is great! I have it running on one
      of
      > > my computers right now. I hope you enjoy it!
      > >
      > > Jeff (RedSpy)
      > >
      > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com>, "intsgt13"
      > > <RedSpy13@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Greetings, everyone. I have just added a folder to the Files
      Section
      > > > called "PotA Desktop Fun". Included are two desktop themes and
      a set
      > > > of icons based on the 1968 original film, a set of screen savers
      > > based
      > > > on the 2001 remake, and a set of Planet of the Taz screen
      savers. I
      > > > hope you enjoy them! If you have problems with the zipped files,
      > > just
      > > > drop me an e-mail (RedSpy13@) and I will be more than happy to
      > > > send you the unzipped files. Take care!
      > > >
      > > > Jeff (RedSpy)
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 44400 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/9/2008
      Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA200
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      I have to pipe in:
       
      Why do you insist on provoking him?

      On Jan 9, 2008 6:40 AM, lordarthur75062 <lordarthur75062@...> wrote:

      To quote Cornelius:
      ''He may be intelligent,but he's also crazy.''

      LordArthur.


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      Group: pota Message: 44401 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/9/2008
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      When Dr. Zaius mentioned to Cornelius that he wanted to discuss his expedition of his in more detail, Cornelius responds that he would get his notes and come right over.
       
      Then, a few scenes later, Dr. Zaius and friend interrupt the meeting between Taylor, Zira and Cornelius.
       
      Dr. Zaius then asked, "Have you forgotten our appointment?"
       
      I have always thought that Cornelius should have gone over to Dr. Zaius' office instead of the other way around.
       
      Anyway, this always bugged me.
       
      Jessica.
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      Group: pota Message: 44402 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/9/2008
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        Yeah, it's too soon for a new "Apes" DVD. If they do it they'll just put the first movie out on Blu-Ray. Though I heard from a fan who put the standard DVD in their Blu-ray machine that the picture looked much better than it did in a standard DVD player.
        As for Blu-Ray taking off, don't count on it. Standard DVD is the new VHS and will be around a while. All the people that got burned on HD-DVD is not a good example for customer confidence. Jeff
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:46 PM
      Subject: [pota] Re: Blu-Ray

      "Now that the format war is all but officially over, shouldn't we look
      into a way to lobby Fox to release Blu-ray special editions of the
      sequels before a substandard version is churned out?"

      I'm glad the format war looks to be over, but I wouldn't hold my breath
      waiting to see PLANET OF THE APES or any of its sequels on Blu-ray
      soon. Sales of DVDs are down and the Blu-ray format isn't exactly
      taking off like a rocket. The argument may go that consumers have been
      waiting for the format war to be settled before they really starting
      getting into high-definition, but I sense most people don't think
      hi-def is that big an improvement and aren't ready to scrape regular
      DVDs just yet, especially if they have big collections. Also, it looks
      like the economy is going into recession, so I expect sales of Blu-ray
      DVD players and software to be soft for a while, hence I don't think
      the studios are going to be in that big a rush to get their older
      library titles out, especially since remastering is going to be
      necessary. I'd be pissed if Fox took the PLANET 35th Anniversary DVD
      transfer and just up scaled it to hi-def. What we have right now isn't
      a true restoration. I've read the film was archivally restored
      recently. I'd like to see the results of that with added digital
      cleanup. Anyway, I think by "substandard version" you mean a Blu-ray
      release that's just the movie, its trailer and little else. Well,
      write Fox and tell them that when they do get around to releasing APES
      on Blu-ray, you want special editions with "all the trimmings." It
      can't hurt and may help, but I wouldn't add that you want it sooner
      rather than later, that'll probably only insure that we will get
      something "substandard. " Tell them what you want, but tell them to
      take their time and do it right.

      Even though this is now the 40th anniversary of PLANET, I wouldn't mind
      if a Blu-ray DVD of it doesn't come out until the end of the year or
      even next year.

      As for a "way to lobby Fox".... I think letters work best, especially
      if you send several, but I guess emails and on-line petitions do
      something too. I don't think there's a chance of separate special
      editions of each of the sequels. The best you can hope for is a box
      set of all five films with a new set of featurettes and perhaps
      commentary tracks for each film. Personally, I'd rather hope for a new
      40th Anniversary special edition of the classic original, then worry
      about the sequels later.

      -- Rory

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      Group: pota Message: 44403 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/9/2008
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      "When Dr. Zaius mentioned to Cornelius that he wanted to discuss his
      expedition of his in more detail, Cornelius responds that he would get
      his notes and come right over. Then, a few scenes later, Dr. Zaius and
      friend interrupt the meeting between Taylor, Zira and Cornelius. Dr.
      Zaius then asked, "Have you forgotten our appointment?" I have always
      thought that Cornelius should have gone over to Dr. Zaius' office
      instead of the other way around.

      Anyway, this always bugged me.

      Jessica."

      Maybe you can now stop being so bugged, Jessica. This is how I've
      always seen it: Cornelius was supposed to meet with Dr. Zaius, perhaps
      at Zaius' office or someplace else, but Zira dropped by Cornelius'
      office with Taylor on lease and the incredible discovery that a man can
      write. This probably made Cornelius forget that he had a meeting with
      Zaius, at least temporarily. Meanwhile you have to remember that Zaius
      has "something bothering him" (Zira's words), which is in fact that
      Zaius knows that the kind of man he's feared all his life would emerge
      has at last showed up, and he's kind of freaking out and paranoid. He
      probably has Zira under surveillance and so when she suddenly takes
      Taylor to Cornelius' office, Zaius gets Dr. Maximus and heads right
      over there to put a stop to whatever is going on. Also, remember that
      the very next thing Dr. Zaius does is order the vet to geld Taylor.
      Zaius knows he's got to put a lid on the situation right away.

      -- Rory


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      Group: pota Message: 44404 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/9/2008
      Subject: Fox, you bloody....!
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      If there's anyone out there that wants to start bugging Fox about
      getting the APES films -- ESPECIALLY THE CLASSIC ORIGINAL (Hint! Hint!)
      -- out on Blu-ray DVD (With Extras!), here's the address, phone number,
      and fax (Mmmmm.... flooding them with faxs?)


      Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment
      2121 Avenue of the Stars, 25th Floor
      Los Angeles, CA 90067
      310-369-3900
      310-369-3319 Fax


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      Group: pota Message: 44405 From: thisizit73 Date: 1/9/2008
      Subject: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
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      I was watching the marathon of the series and I was wondering
      when the lawgiver said "we may never know" and then we see Cesaer shed
      a tear, one is expected to believe that in 1400 years when the
      astronaunts come from the past and into the future that the Earth will
      be destroyed, but if humans are already talking and are equals to
      humans, then why would the Earth be destroyed? In the law books Ape and
      never killed Ape but we see that that law has been broken by Aldo, so
      it is fair to say that the Apes have also evolved and like McDonald
      said "joined the human race" Unless something happened in the 1400
      hundred years before the Taylor and his companions arrive then I think
      that tear he shed is of joy that humans and Apes have lived in peace
      and that the supposed end of the Earth never happened.. just my 2 cents
      in.
      I am new here and i would like to discuss more of the movies bc they
      are so very interesting to talk about..
      tah tah
      cristy
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      Group: pota Message: 44406 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/9/2008
      Subject: Re: I have a question regarding the 1968 movie...
      .html
      Oh yes!  That makes sense!  I never thought of it that way.  Thanks, Rory.  That is a great explanation, and I can see it happening.  Now it won't bug me anymore.
       
      Jessica.

       
      On 1/9/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

      "When Dr. Zaius mentioned to Cornelius that he wanted to discuss his
      expedition of his in more detail, Cornelius responds that he would get
      his notes and come right over. Then, a few scenes later, Dr. Zaius and
      friend interrupt the meeting between Taylor, Zira and Cornelius. Dr.
      Zaius then asked, "Have you forgotten our appointment?" I have always
      thought that Cornelius should have gone over to Dr. Zaius' office
      instead of the other way around.
       
      Anyway, this always bugged me.
       
      Jessica."

      Maybe you can now stop being so bugged, Jessica. This is how I've
      always seen it: Cornelius was supposed to meet with Dr. Zaius, perhaps
      at Zaius' office or someplace else, but Zira dropped by Cornelius'
      office with Taylor on lease and the incredible discovery that a man can
      write. This probably made Cornelius forget that he had a meeting with
      Zaius, at least temporarily. Meanwhile you have to remember that Zaius
      has "something bothering him" (Zira's words), which is in fact that
      Zaius knows that the kind of man he's feared all his life would emerge
      has at last showed up, and he's kind of freaking out and paranoid. He
      probably has Zira under surveillance and so when she suddenly takes
      Taylor to Cornelius' office, Zaius gets Dr. Maximus and heads right
      over there to put a stop to whatever is going on. Also, remember that
      the very next thing Dr. Zaius does is order the vet to geld Taylor.
      Zaius knows he's got to put a lid on the situation right away.

      -- Rory

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      Group: pota Message: 44407 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/9/2008
      Subject: Re: Blu-Ray
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      In a message dated 1/9/2008 7:41:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
      VHS and will be around a while.
       
      There's a new VHS?
      Do you mean S-VHS?
      I never got into that.
      Though When I get a DVR
      I will get one in the VCR combo.
      Seems their getting scarce.  Soon
      you may not be able to get one at all.
       




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      Group: pota Message: 44408 From: drhasslein Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: Re: Blu-Ray
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      Yeah, I inadvertently recorded a lot of material in S-VHS-ET, my
      player gave out, and it has been impossible to find a mid price
      replacement. A year ago S-VHS recorders were available @ $120-$150,
      now I can only find high end models new.

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
      >
      >
      > In a message dated 1/9/2008 7:41:30 P.M. Central Standard Time,
      > veetus@... writes:
      >
      > VHS and will be around a while.
      >
      >
      >
      > There's a new VHS?
      > Do you mean S-VHS?
      > I never got into that.
      > Though When I get a DVR
      > I will get one in the VCR combo.
      > Seems their getting scarce. Soon
      > you may not be able to get one at all.
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 44409 From: shanter2002 Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
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      The other thing about that Caesar statue is that it's the exact same
      head as the Mego Cornelius /Galen.John, Scrolls.
      >
      > I was watching the marathon of the series and I was wondering
      > when the lawgiver said "we may never know" and then we see Cesaer
      shed
      > a tear, one is expected to believe that in 1400 years when the
      > astronaunts come from the past and into the future that the Earth
      will
      > be destroyed, but if humans are already talking and are equals to
      > humans, then why would the Earth be destroyed? In the law books Ape
      and
      > never killed Ape but we see that that law has been broken by Aldo,
      so
      > it is fair to say that the Apes have also evolved and like McDonald
      > said "joined the human race" Unless something happened in the 1400
      > hundred years before the Taylor and his companions arrive then I
      think
      > that tear he shed is of joy that humans and Apes have lived in
      peace
      > and that the supposed end of the Earth never happened.. just my 2
      cents
      > in.
      > I am new here and i would like to discuss more of the movies bc
      they
      > are so very interesting to talk about..
      > tah tah
      > cristy
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 44410 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: Re: I have a question regarding the 1968 movie...
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      Jessica:
       
      I think that Dr.  Zaius was like the pain in the but boss I ha a few years ago that would come get me if I was late...or then ask me for a report and then practically re do it form me an anal retentive micromanager type....so he came over.
       
      Mario Medina

      Huntleigh Latin America
      2602 NW 97 Avenue
      Miami, FL 33172
      Tel: 305-463-0526
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      Group: pota Message: 44411 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/10/2008
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      Kids:
       
      The best way to go...time consuming I admit, is to get yourself a DVD-VHS recorder and save whatever versions of stuff you have on VHS to DVD....Toshiba makes good ones....very user friendly. Im doing it now.
       
       
       
      Mario Medina

      Huntleigh Latin America
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      Miami, FL 33172
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      Group: pota Message: 44412 From: James Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
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      Well many see the end of BATTLE as a fork in the road. If man and ape can continue living in peace; everything will be OK. If not; than event will happen as seen in PLANET and BENEATH.

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thisizit73" <stinkyhelga@...> wrote:
      >
      > I was watching the marathon of the series and I was wondering
      > when the lawgiver said "we may never know" and then we see Cesaer shed
      > a tear, one is expected to believe that in 1400 years when the
      > astronaunts come from the past and into the future that the Earth will
      > be destroyed, but if humans are already talking and are equals to
      > humans, then why would the Earth be destroyed? In the law books Ape and
      > never killed Ape but we see that that law has been broken by Aldo, so
      > it is fair to say that the Apes have also evolved and like McDonald
      > said "joined the human race" Unless something happened in the 1400
      > hundred years before the Taylor and his companions arrive then I think
      > that tear he shed is of joy that humans and Apes have lived in peace
      > and that the supposed end of the Earth never happened.. just my 2 cents
      > in.
      > I am new here and i would like to discuss more of the movies bc they
      > are so very interesting to talk about..
      > tah tah
      > cristy
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 44413 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
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      Or that no one is sure whether Caesar changed the future or not... Aldo originally was the first ape to say "No." Then Zira and Cornelius came back from the future.... And Paradox reigns!
       
      Man I love reading these discussions!!!
       
      ~Bill

      On Jan 10, 2008 8:57 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

      Well many see the end of BATTLE as a fork in the road. If man and ape can continue living in peace; everything will be OK. If not; than event will happen as seen in PLANET and BENEATH.

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thisizit73" <stinkyhelga@...> wrote:
      >
      > I was watching the marathon of the series and I was wondering
      > when the lawgiver said "we may never know" and then we see Cesaer shed
      > a tear, one is expected to believe that in 1400 years when the
      > astronaunts come from the past and into the future that the Earth will
      > be destroyed, but if humans are already talking and are equals to
      > humans, then why would the Earth be destroyed? In the law books Ape and
      > never killed Ape but we see that that law has been broken by Aldo, so
      > it is fair to say that the Apes have also evolved and like McDonald
      > said "joined the human race" Unless something happened in the 1400
      > hundred years before the Taylor and his companions arrive then I think
      > that tear he shed is of joy that humans and Apes have lived in peace
      > and that the supposed end of the Earth never happened.. just my 2 cents
      > in.
      > I am new here and i would like to discuss more of the movies bc they
      > are so very interesting to talk about..
      > tah tah
      > cristy
      >




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             Barbarian in need of Ale...
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      http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
      Planet of the Apes at
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      Group: pota Message: 44414 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
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      To be perfectly honest with all of you...I would disregard most of what happened after part 2...it was all sort of rushed cheesy sequel stuff put together for a fast buck. I think that the best way to go would be that the world ends due to good old fashion human on human fighting, and that a set of genetically engineered apes escapes captivity (lab) to form a new society. Humans are almost all wiped out by diseases after the war. The apes are immune and while they ar able to co-habitate for a while with humans, they develop their own anti tech faith...sort of a Taliban type mentality and decide that the humans should not be allowed to speak...an ape "scientist" genetically engineers humans to not be able to speak. All othe humans are killed....like the Nazis and Commies in China did to the non party line towing folks. I always thought that going further in the tradition of classic science fiction and Rod Serlings stories in particular was the way to go. That the apes ascension should be a warning about our potential for self destruction, religious fanaticism, and nazi/communinist totalitarian government. Whta ya guys think?
       
      Mario Medina

      Huntleigh Latin America
      2602 NW 97 Avenue
      Miami, FL 33172
      Tel: 305-463-0526
      Fax: 305-463-0216
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      Group: pota Message: 44415 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 1/10/2008
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      WELL SAID! I liked Battle though it always seemed more of a TV show ep than a movie, and Serling was a MASTER!

      On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 AM, <mariohnelatin@...> wrote:

      To be perfectly honest with all of you...I would disregard most of what happened after part 2...it was all sort of rushed cheesy sequel stuff put together for a fast buck. I think that the best way to go would be that the world ends due to good old fashion human on human fighting, and that a set of genetically engineered apes escapes captivity (lab) to form a new society. Humans are almost all wiped out by diseases after the war. The apes are immune and while they ar able to co-habitate for a while with humans, they develop their own anti tech faith...sort of a Taliban type mentality and decide that the humans should not be allowed to speak...an ape "scientist" genetically engineers humans to not be able to speak. All othe humans are killed....like the Nazis and Commies in China did to the non party line towing folks. I always thought that going further in the tradition of classic science fiction and Rod Serlings stories in particular was the way to go. That the apes ascension should be a warning about our potential for self destruction, religious fanaticism, and nazi/communinist totalitarian government. Whta ya guys think?
       
      Mario Medina

      Huntleigh Latin America
      2602 NW 97 Avenue
      Miami, FL 33172
      Tel: 305-463-0526
      Fax: 305-463-0216
      E-mail: mariohnelatin@... or hnelatin@...
      http://www.huntleigh-healthcare.com/





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          Will Slay...
             Barbarian in need of Ale...
      Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
      Bill Hollweg
      Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
      www.brokensea.net
      The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
      http://www.brokensea.com and
      http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
      Planet of the Apes at
      http://www.brokensea.com and
      Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
      http://www.brokensea.com and
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      Group: pota Message: 44416 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/10/2008
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        I'm saying standard DVD is the new VHS, the meat and potatoes. Just as few got into S-VHS I don't see people getting into HD in droves. The popularity of DVD caught the bean counters off guard. Just as we had Beta vs. VHS and VHS became the standard for a long time, it's rare when something becomes a standard. Laser discs too, those stayed with the techies. The improved picture of HD is cool but I don't think it's enough to get Joe Sixpack, who just started standard DVD, to convert.  Jeff
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:32 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Blu-Ray

      In a message dated 1/9/2008 7:41:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:
      VHS and will be around a while.
       
      There's a new VHS?
      Do you mean S-VHS?
      I never got into that.
      Though When I get a DVR
      I will get one in the VCR combo.
      Seems their getting scarce.  Soon
      you may not be able to get one at all.
       




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      Group: pota Message: 44417 From: Jeff Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
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      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:
      >
      > WELL SAID! I liked Battle though it always seemed more of a TV show
      ep than
      > a movie, and Serling was a MASTER!
      >
      Has anyone else noticed that there were hardly any orangutans
      in "Conquest"? They were especially absent in the conditioning and
      battle scenes. I always wondered about that. Just an observation.

      Jeff (RedSpy)

      > On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 AM, <mariohnelatin@...> wrote:
      >
      > > To be perfectly honest with all of you...I would disregard
      most of what
      > > happened after part 2...it was all sort of rushed cheesy sequel
      stuff put
      > > together for a fast buck. I think that the best way to go would
      be that the
      > > world ends due to good old fashion human on human fighting, and
      that a set
      > > of genetically engineered apes escapes captivity (lab) to form a
      new
      > > society. Humans are almost all wiped out by diseases after the
      war. The apes
      > > are immune and while they ar able to co-habitate for a while with
      humans,
      > > they develop their own anti tech faith...sort of a Taliban type
      mentality
      > > and decide that the humans should not be allowed to speak...an
      > > ape "scientist" genetically engineers humans to not be able to
      speak.
      > > All othe humans are killed....like the Nazis and Commies in China
      did to the
      > > non party line towing folks. I always thought that going further
      in the
      > > tradition of classic science fiction and Rod Serlings stories in
      particular
      > > was the way to go. That the apes ascension should be a warning
      about our
      > > potential for self destruction, religious fanaticism, and
      nazi/communinist
      > > totalitarian government. Whta ya guys think?
      > >
      > > *Mario Medina*
      > >
      > > *Huntleigh Latin America*
      > > 2602 NW 97 Avenue
      > > Miami, FL 33172
      > > Tel: 305-463-0526
      > > Fax: 305-463-0216
      > > E-mail: mariohnelatin@... or hnelatin@...
      > > http://www.huntleigh-healthcare.com/
      > >
      > >
      > >
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      > Will Slay...
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      > Bill Hollweg
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      Group: pota Message: 44418 From: drhasslein Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
      .html
      I always thought the tear was because his efforts eventually failed....
      I believe the future was altered, but to the same disasterous result.

      As far as disreguarding the sequels, I have stated before and maintain,
      even with the flaws, there has never been a more poignant and diverse
      series of films ever.



      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mariohnelatin@... wrote:
      >
      > To be perfectly honest with all of you...I would disregard most of
      what
      > happened after part 2...it was all sort of rushed cheesy sequel stuff
      put together
      > for a fast buck.
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      Group: pota Message: 44419 From: john rutkoski Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
      .html
      i agree with with mario   as much as it pains me. after beneath it went down hill.  i still watch them though and try to write my own versions. the whole concept of pota is fascinating to me.  their are elements in the sequels that are great. but not enough. again with the proper writing and care. they could have been fabulous. maybe some one in the future will do another version much better than the pitifull one done by some famous director.

      drhasslein <drhasslein@...> wrote:
      I always thought the tear was because his efforts eventually failed....
      I believe the future was altered, but to the same disasterous result.

      As far as disreguarding the sequels, I have stated before and maintain,
      even with the flaws, there has never been a more poignant and diverse
      series of films ever.


      --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, mariohnelatin@ ... wrote:
      >
      > To be perfectly honest with all of you...I would disregard most of
      what
      > happened after part 2...it was all sort of rushed cheesy sequel stuff
      put together
      > for a fast buck.



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      Group: pota Message: 44420 From: john rutkoski Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
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      i like your thinking mario. the later sequels were cheesy.  now do you have the world  destroyed  just as it is in beneath.

      mariohnelatin@... wrote:
      To be perfectly honest with all of you...I would disregard most of what happened after part 2...it was all sort of rushed cheesy sequel stuff put together for a fast buck. I think that the best way to go would be that the world ends due to good old fashion human on human fighting, and that a set of genetically engineered apes escapes captivity (lab) to form a new society. Humans are almost all wiped out by diseases after the war. The apes are immune and while they ar able to co-habitate for a while with humans, they develop their own anti tech faith...sort of a Taliban type mentality and decide that the humans should not be allowed to speak...an ape "scientist" genetically engineers humans to not be able to speak. All othe humans are killed....like the Nazis and Commies in China did to the non party line towing folks. I always thought that going further in the tradition of classic science fiction and Rod Serlings stories in particular was the way to go. That the apes ascension should be a warning about our potential for self destruction, religious fanaticism, and nazi/communinist totalitarian government. Whta ya guys think?
       
      Mario Medina

      Huntleigh Latin America
      2602 NW 97 Avenue
      Miami, FL 33172
      Tel: 305-463-0526
      Fax: 305-463-0216
      E-mail: mariohnelatin@ aol.com or hnelatin@aol. com
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      Group: pota Message: 44421 From: Jeff Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
      .html
      Has anyone else noticed that there were hardly any orangutans
      in "Conquest"? They were noticeably absent in the conditioning and
      battle scenes. I always wondered about that. Just an observation.

      Jeff (RedSpy)



      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, john rutkoski <rutkoskijohn@...> wrote:
      >
      > i like your thinking mario. the later sequels were cheesy. now do
      you have the world destroyed just as it is in beneath.
      >
      > mariohnelatin@... wrote:
      > To be perfectly honest with all of you...I would disregard most of
      what happened after part 2...it was all sort of rushed cheesy sequel
      stuff put together for a fast buck. I think that the best way to go
      would be that the world ends due to good old fashion human on human
      fighting, and that a set of genetically engineered apes escapes
      captivity (lab) to form a new society. Humans are almost all wiped
      out by diseases after the war. The apes are immune and while they ar
      able to co-habitate for a while with humans, they develop their own
      anti tech faith...sort of a Taliban type mentality and decide that
      the humans should not be allowed to speak...an ape "scientist"
      genetically engineers humans to not be able to speak. All othe humans
      are killed....like the Nazis and Commies in China did to the non
      party line towing folks. I always thought that going further in the
      tradition of classic science fiction and Rod Serlings stories in
      particular was the way to go. That the apes
      > ascension should be a warning about our potential for self
      destruction, religious fanaticism, and nazi/communinist totalitarian
      government. Whta ya guys think?
      >
      > Mario Medina
      >
      > Huntleigh Latin America
      > 2602 NW 97 Avenue
      > Miami, FL 33172
      > Tel: 305-463-0526
      > Fax: 305-463-0216
      > E-mail: mariohnelatin@... or hnelatin@...
      > http://www.huntleigh-healthcare.com/
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 44422 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
      .html
      I think there's a lot that's cheesy in BENEATH, a picture that
      literally goes downhill all by itself. ESCAPE has a much better
      script, I just wish they'd done the makeup better.

      -- Rory

      -----Original Message-----
      From: john rutkoski <rutkoskijohn@...>
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 8:03 pm
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes






      i like your thinking mario. the later sequels were cheesy. now do you
      have the world destroyed just as it is in beneath.

      mariohnelatin@... wrote: To be perfectly
      honest with all of you...I would disregard most of what happened after
      part 2...it was all sort of rushed cheesy sequel stuff put together for
      a fast buck. I think that the best way to go would be that the world
      ends due to good old fashion human on human fighting, and that a set of
      genetically engineered apes escapes captivity (lab) to form a new
      society. Humans are almost
      all wiped out by diseases after the war. The apes are immune and while
      they ar able to co-habitate for a while with humans, they develop their
      own anti tech faith...sort of a Taliban type mentality and decide that
      the humans should not be allowed to speak...an ape "scientist"
      genetically engineers humans to not be able to speak. All othe
      humans are killed....like the Nazis and Commies in China did to the non
      party line towing folks. I always thought that going further in the
      tradition of classic science fiction and Rod Serlings stories in
      particular was the way to go. That the apes ascension should be a
      warning about our potential for self destruction, religious fanaticism,
      and nazi/communinist totalitarian government. Whta ya guys think?
      Mario Medina

      Huntleigh Latin America
      2602 NW 97 Avenue
      Miami, FL 33172
      Tel: 305-463-0526
      Fax: 305-463-0216
      E-mail: mariohnelatin@... or hnelatin@...
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      Group: pota Message: 44423 From: James Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: MR Comics RIP?
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      The MR Comics website has disappeared. What this means for the trade paperback of the Revolution series and the future of POTA comics is unknown.

      If anyone has any further info please share it with us.

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      Group: pota Message: 44424 From: Jeff Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: Video Spoof
      .html
      Greetings, everyone. Here is a link to a free video called "Cops-
      Matrix-Apes", which spoofs those three institutions. The third segment
      is called "Trailer Park of the Apes". Enjoy, and Simian Smiles to all!

      http://www.revver.com/video/310870/cops-matrix-apes/

      Jeff (RedSpy)
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      Group: pota Message: 44425 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: Birthday Reminder
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      Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
       
      Title:   Felix Silla's Birthday
       
      Date:   Friday January 11, 2008
      Time:   All Day
      Repeats:   This event repeats every year.
      Location:   Born this day in 1937
      Notes:   Gorrilla child in POTA.
       
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      Group: pota Message: 44426 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: Birthday Reminder
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      Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
       
      Title:   Wright King's Birthday
       
      Date:   Friday January 11, 2008
      Time:   All Day
      Repeats:   This event repeats every year.
      Location:   Born this day in 1923
      Notes:   Dr. Galen in the POTA.
       
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      Group: pota Message: 44427 From: Ty Templeton Date: 1/10/2008
      Subject: Re: MR Comics RIP?
      .html
      Hey.

      That surprised even me.

      Don't know what to make of it.

      Ty

      On Jan 10, 2008 10:44 PM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

      The MR Comics website has disappeared. What this means for the trade paperback of the Revolution series and the future of POTA comics is unknown.

      If anyone has any further info please share it with us.


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      Group: pota Message: 44428 From: Paul Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: Video Spoof
      .html
      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
      >
      > Greetings, everyone. Here is a link to a free video called "Cops-
      > Matrix-Apes", which spoofs those three institutions. The third segment
      > is called "Trailer Park of the Apes". Enjoy, and Simian Smiles to all!
      >
      > http://www.revver.com/video/310870/cops-matrix-apes/
      >
      > Jeff (RedSpy)
      >

      Sorry, but I found it way off of anything POTA-like. Just me!

      ~Paul
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      Group: pota Message: 44429 From: pbar100 Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: SFX Magazine - Apes Article
      .html
      I don't know if this has been posted or not, but just in case it
      hasn't -
      There is a very good Planet Of The Apes feature (focusing on the TV
      series) in a current issue of SFX magazine. It's a Retro special of
      the magazine, featuring classic sci fi TV shows, it has Hulk, the
      Bionics, Knight Rider in it etc.
      Worth buying for the Apes feature alone.
      A must have if you're into retro sci fi TV!

      I bought mine yesterday at WH wmith (here in the UK)so it's still
      available.
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      Group: pota Message: 44430 From: thisizit73 Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: in regards to the tear
      .html
      In the ending with Battle, "we may never know" will always be a
      mystery, but we see the apes and children treated as equals, why then
      would the Earth be destroyed. My thinking is when Taylor and his crew
      do go into the future, they will know what has happened to the Earth,
      they will learn the history of how Ape society was created. There will
      be no need to go into the Forbidden Zone, he will not meet the mutants
      and he will no see the Statue of Liberty and there will be no need to
      use the bomb. But that is my theory.
      toodles.........
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      Group: pota Message: 44431 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
      .html
      .html
      aha....stay tuned...its a long winded one...i have a response though
       
      Mario Medina

      Huntleigh Latin America
      2602 NW 97 Avenue
      Miami, FL 33172
      Tel: 305-463-0526
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      Group: pota Message: 44432 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
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      Happy Birthday Felix....wherever you are!!!
       
      Mario Medina

      Huntleigh Latin America
      2602 NW 97 Avenue
      Miami, FL 33172
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      Fax: 305-463-0216
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      Group: pota Message: 44433 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
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      .html
      Big hug to Wright King.....wherever YOU are!. Thanks for POTA
       
      Mario Medina

      Huntleigh Latin America
      2602 NW 97 Avenue
      Miami, FL 33172
      Tel: 305-463-0526
      Fax: 305-463-0216
      E-mail: mariohnelatin@... or hnelatin@...
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      Group: pota Message: 44434 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
      .html
      .html
      Beneath does go down a bit...very true. But Escape seals the fate of the boys and Nova.
       
      I would rather change it so that Zaius escapes with some apes from the citadel of mutants....and tells the ficticious story of Taylor and Brent dying to the council. The citadel burns up as the rocket takes off killing most of the soldier apes, and keeps going into space...its old and it malfunctions!
       
      The boys(though injured)  and a pregnant Nova escape throught the tunnels...and only Zaius sees them. Taylor sees Zaius riding off with a few surviving soldier gorillas.
       
      My sequel tells the oddysey through the POTA down the eastern shoreline toward a base...maybe Cape Kennedy. Zaius contacts another Ape General...and sends him on a secret mission through The Forbidden Zone to find and eliminate the talking humans. Remember I'm thinking of the Science Council as a sort of Taliban that know the secret of how the ape society came about...and they dont want anything getting out.
       
       I'm also working(slowly) on a prequel called "Mission To Orion" about the astrosauts and events  leading up to the  mission. A period piece that incorporates alot of the leading events during that historical period. I will post excerpts here soon.
       
      Mario Medina

      Huntleigh Latin America
      2602 NW 97 Avenue
      Miami, FL 33172
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      Group: pota Message: 44435 From: Jeff Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: Video Spoof
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      Paul, I didn't say it was a GOOD spoof, just a spoof on the apes.
      LOL I search for anything regarding the apes movies.

      Jeff (RedSpy)


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <p3murds@...> wrote:
      >
      > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Greetings, everyone. Here is a link to a free video called "Cops-
      > > Matrix-Apes", which spoofs those three institutions. The third
      segment
      > > is called "Trailer Park of the Apes". Enjoy, and Simian Smiles
      to all!
      > >
      > > http://www.revver.com/video/310870/cops-matrix-apes/
      > >
      > > Jeff (RedSpy)
      > >
      >
      > Sorry, but I found it way off of anything POTA-like. Just me!
      >
      > ~Paul
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 44436 From: Jeff Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
      .html
      I find it interesting that in "Planet", Cornelius and Zira know
      nothing about man's past superiority. Then, in "Escape", they both
      seems to know the entire history of man's superiority and downfall.
      They make it sound as if it was taught to all ape school children.
      This makes Dr. Zaius' "keeper of the faith" secrets a bit
      unnecessary. A bit of a continuity error, but just an observation on
      my part.

      Another question I have is for "Battle". If Caesar is the same ape
      from "Conquest", how did all apes acquire speech and a culture in
      just a few years? Remember, Virgil seems to be a genius who
      knows "everything about everything". How did he gain all this
      knowledge in such a short span of years? I first thought that Caesar
      was a descendant of the original Caesar (Milo), but then MacDonald
      states that his brother was the man who aided Caesar in "Conquest",
      so this has to be only a few years in the future. Quite a big
      evolutionary leap for such a short period.

      Jeff (RedSpy)


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mariohnelatin@... wrote:
      >
      > Beneath does go down a bit...very true. But Escape seals the fate
      of the boys
      > and Nova.
      >
      > I would rather change it so that Zaius escapes with some apes from
      the
      > citadel of mutants....and tells the ficticious story of Taylor and
      Brent dying to
      > the council. The citadel burns up as the rocket takes off killing
      most of the
      > soldier apes, and keeps going into space...its old and it
      malfunctions!
      >
      > The boys(though injured) and a pregnant Nova escape throught the
      > tunnels...and only Zaius sees them. Taylor sees Zaius riding off
      with a few surviving
      > soldier gorillas.
      >
      > My sequel tells the oddysey through the POTA down the eastern
      shoreline
      > toward a base...maybe Cape Kennedy. Zaius contacts another Ape
      General...and sends
      > him on a secret mission through The Forbidden Zone to find and
      eliminate the
      > talking humans. Remember I'm thinking of the Science Council as a
      sort of
      > Taliban that know the secret of how the ape society came
      about...and they dont want
      > anything getting out.
      >
      > I'm also working(slowly) on a prequel called "Mission To Orion"
      about the
      > astrosauts and events leading up to the mission. A period piece
      that
      > incorporates alot of the leading events during that historical
      period. I will post
      > excerpts here soon.
      >
      > Mario Medina
      >
      >
      > Huntleigh Latin America
      > 2602 NW 97 Avenue
      > Miami, FL 33172
      > Tel: 305-463-0526
      > Fax: 305-463-0216
      > E-mail: mariohnelatin@... or hnelatin@...
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      Group: pota Message: 44437 From: James Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Cornelius' Journal/Group Website Downloads
      .html

      It's Friday again and that means that the latest entry of CORNELIUS' JOURNAL is now available. 

      To read the JOURNAL entry either click the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm

      Thanks to Jeff Locklear, the Group Website's Downloads page now includes all 29 2001 Digital Trading Cards as well as Screen Savers based on both the original film and the remake. Thanks again Jeff!

      Have a great weekend everybody!

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      Group: pota Message: 44438 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
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      .html
      yep...thats right brother, its called cheezy hollywood ripoff sequels. some aspects of the movies are still cool....but some are just careless rush jobs.
       
      Mario Medina

      Huntleigh Latin America
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      Miami, FL 33172
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      Group: pota Message: 44439 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
      .html
      Jeff, I have always wondered the same thing but since I just love the movies so much and I'm so very in love with Cornelius, I'll get what I can take!  Bring on the cheese!!!
       
      Jessica.

      On Jan 11, 2008 7:46 AM, <mariohnelatin@...> wrote:

      yep...thats right brother, its called cheezy hollywood ripoff sequels. some aspects of the movies are still cool....but some are just careless rush jobs.
       
      Mario Medina

      Huntleigh Latin America
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      Group: pota Message: 44440 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: in regards to the tear
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      "In the ending with Battle, "we may never know" will always be a
      mystery, but we see the apes and children treated as equals, why then
      would the Earth be destroyed. My thinking is when Taylor and his crew
      do go into the future, they will know what has happened to the Earth,
      they will learn the history of how Ape society was created. There will
      be no need to go into the Forbidden Zone, he will not meet the mutants
      and he will no see the Statue of Liberty and there will be no need to
      use the bomb. But that is my theory.
      toodles........."

      That's a terrible theory. Taylor "goes into the future" before the
      three apeonauts arrive in ESCAPE, so his flight is never affected by
      anything in the last three films. In fact, the events of Taylor's
      life, his timeline, are over and done with by the beginning of ESCAPE.

      -- Rory


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      Group: pota Message: 44441 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
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      "Another question I have is for "Battle". If Caesar is the same ape
      from "Conquest", how did all apes acquire speech and a culture in
      just a few years? Remember, Virgil seems to be a genius who
      knows "everything about everything". How did he gain all this
      knowledge in such a short span of years? I first thought that Caesar
      was a descendant of the original Caesar (Milo), but then MacDonald
      states that his brother was the man who aided Caesar in "Conquest",
      so this has to be only a few years in the future. Quite a big
      evolutionary leap for such a short period.

      Jeff (RedSpy)"

      That's one of the reasons why BATTLE stinks. The producers had painted
      themselves into a corner and didn't have the kind of budget they needed
      for a script that would be better than it was, which is just slightly
      superior to a segment of the "Banana Splits."

      -- Rory


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      Group: pota Message: 44442 From: Jeff Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: PotA Around the World
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      Greetings, everyone. I got a request this morning to send all the
      cartoons/animations to a group member in Brazil. Looks like our group
      is really making the rounds! I hope we hear from more fans around the
      globe.

      Jeff (RedSpy)
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      Group: pota Message: 44443 From: Jeff Date: 1/11/2008
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      Greetings, everyone. A note on the digital trading cards. You will
      note that they are designated as "Silver", "Platinum" or "Gold".
      The "Silver" cards are simply static cards, which can be flipped to
      read the description on the back. The "Platinum" cards have a small
      amount of animation, and the "Gold" cards have the most animation
      added. Click the center of the "Platinum" and "Gold" cards to start
      the animations. Click the curly icons in the corners to either replay
      the animations or flip the cards. A note -- they look best and are
      easiest to read in full screen mode. I hope you enjoy them! Simian
      Smiles to all!

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      Group: pota Message: 44444 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/11/2008
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        I think the point is that we see ape and human children (children are the future) together but the Caesar statue cries because it can't stay that way (even the children fight). As we know from our own times, we're screwed. Jeff
        P.S. I never bought the "tear of joy" argument; un"Apes-like.
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: thisizit73
      Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 5:06 AM
      Subject: [pota] in regards to the tear

      In the ending with Battle, "we may never know" will always be a
      mystery, but we see the apes and children treated as equals, why then
      would the Earth be destroyed. My thinking is when Taylor and his crew
      do go into the future, they will know what has happened to the Earth,
      they will learn the history of how Ape society was created. There will
      be no need to go into the Forbidden Zone, he will not meet the mutants
      and he will no see the Statue of Liberty and there will be no need to
      use the bomb. But that is my theory.
      toodles..... ....

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      Group: pota Message: 44445 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
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        The problem was "the boys" included Charlton Heston, who didn't want to come back.
        Would they have been better off recasting Taylor for the sequels? Part of the reason they went the way they did was having Heston return made it "classier". But there's plenty of examples of sequels where the main character was recast. True, Roddy was recast in "Beneath" but who knew? :) Jeff
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:42 AM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes

      Beneath does go down a bit...very true. But Escape seals the fate of the boys and Nova.
       
      I would rather change it so that Zaius escapes with some apes from the citadel of mutants....and tells the ficticious story of Taylor and Brent dying to the council. The citadel burns up as the rocket takes off killing most of the soldier apes, and keeps going into space...its old and it malfunctions!
       
      The boys(though injured)  and a pregnant Nova escape throught the tunnels...and only Zaius sees them. Taylor sees Zaius riding off with a few surviving soldier gorillas.
       
      My sequel tells the oddysey through the POTA down the eastern shoreline toward a base...maybe Cape Kennedy. Zaius contacts another Ape General...and sends him on a secret mission through The Forbidden Zone to find and eliminate the talking humans. Remember I'm thinking of the Science Council as a sort of Taliban that know the secret of how the ape society came about...and they dont want anything getting out.
       
       I'm also working(slowly) on a prequel called "Mission To Orion" about the astrosauts and events  leading up to the  mission. A period piece that incorporates alot of the leading events during that historical period. I will post excerpts here soon.
       
      Mario Medina

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      Group: pota Message: 44446 From: Jeff Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: in regards to the tear
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      Also, all the hatches and windows were blown out of the Icarus when
      it crashed into the inland sea in "Planet", so how did the chimps
      recover, repair (with the waterlogged electronics), and then re-
      launch the ship in "Escape"?

      And also, in "Planet" the year is established as 3978, but after that
      the mythology lists the year as being 3955. Boy, we can nitpick,
      can't we? LOL It's a good thing they didn't have regular continuity
      checkers back then, or we would be flooding him with hate mail. LOL

      Jeff (RedSpy)



      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
      >
      > "In the ending with Battle, "we may never know" will always be a
      > mystery, but we see the apes and children treated as equals, why
      then
      > would the Earth be destroyed. My thinking is when Taylor and his
      crew
      > do go into the future, they will know what has happened to the
      Earth,
      > they will learn the history of how Ape society was created. There
      will
      > be no need to go into the Forbidden Zone, he will not meet the
      mutants
      > and he will no see the Statue of Liberty and there will be no need
      to
      > use the bomb. But that is my theory.
      > toodles........."
      >
      > That's a terrible theory. Taylor "goes into the future" before the
      > three apeonauts arrive in ESCAPE, so his flight is never affected
      by
      > anything in the last three films. In fact, the events of Taylor's
      > life, his timeline, are over and done with by the beginning of
      ESCAPE.
      >
      > -- Rory
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 44447 From: Jeff Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
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      The Banana Splits? LOL Is Bingo a distant relative of Zaius?
      Hmmmmmmmmmmm..............

      Jeff (RedSpy)


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
      >
      > "Another question I have is for "Battle". If Caesar is the same ape
      > from "Conquest", how did all apes acquire speech and a culture in
      > just a few years? Remember, Virgil seems to be a genius who
      > knows "everything about everything". How did he gain all this
      > knowledge in such a short span of years? I first thought that Caesar
      > was a descendant of the original Caesar (Milo), but then MacDonald
      > states that his brother was the man who aided Caesar in "Conquest",
      > so this has to be only a few years in the future. Quite a big
      > evolutionary leap for such a short period.
      >
      > Jeff (RedSpy)"
      >
      > That's one of the reasons why BATTLE stinks. The producers had
      painted
      > themselves into a corner and didn't have the kind of budget they
      needed
      > for a script that would be better than it was, which is just
      slightly
      > superior to a segment of the "Banana Splits."
      >
      > -- Rory
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 44448 From: Jeff Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
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      In "Battle", Virgil uses the same highway with multiple lanes example
      to explain time travel that was used by Dr. Hasslein in "Escape". If
      Hasslein knew a dreaded ape was using his example, he would roll over
      in his grave. LOL Also, how would Virgil know about cars and
      highways, anyway? I'm sorry. My "nitpicking knob" was turned up too
      high again. I hate when that happens.

      Jeff (RedSpy)



      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
      >
      > The Banana Splits? LOL Is Bingo a distant relative of Zaius?
      > Hmmmmmmmmmmm..............
      >
      > Jeff (RedSpy)
      >
      >
      > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
      > >
      > > "Another question I have is for "Battle". If Caesar is the same
      ape
      > > from "Conquest", how did all apes acquire speech and a culture in
      > > just a few years? Remember, Virgil seems to be a genius who
      > > knows "everything about everything". How did he gain all this
      > > knowledge in such a short span of years? I first thought that
      Caesar
      > > was a descendant of the original Caesar (Milo), but then MacDonald
      > > states that his brother was the man who aided Caesar
      in "Conquest",
      > > so this has to be only a few years in the future. Quite a big
      > > evolutionary leap for such a short period.
      > >
      > > Jeff (RedSpy)"
      > >
      > > That's one of the reasons why BATTLE stinks. The producers had
      > painted
      > > themselves into a corner and didn't have the kind of budget they
      > needed
      > > for a script that would be better than it was, which is just
      > slightly
      > > superior to a segment of the "Banana Splits."
      > >
      > > -- Rory
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 44449 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: In regards to the tear....
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      "As we know from our own times, we're screwed. Jeff"

      Let's have a survey here... Who actually believes "we're screwed"? Are
      these the end times for mankind, or will we somehow muddle through the
      mess we've made and things will get better? Of course, eventually our
      species will go extinct, but will that be tomorrow or eons from now?

      -- Rory


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      Group: pota Message: 44450 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
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      " The problem was "the boys" included Charlton Heston, who didn't want
      to come back. Would they have been better off recasting Taylor for the
      sequels? Part of the reason they went the way they did was having
      Heston return made it "classier". But there's plenty of examples of
      sequels where the main character was recast. True, Roddy was recast in
      "Beneath" but who knew? :) Jeff "

      APES just wasn't APES once Heston was gone. The big kick in the first
      film was seeing Heston get his butt kicked.

      -- Rory


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      Group: pota Message: 44451 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
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      Love that Roddy McDowall...Anyone like Legend of Hell House or Fright Night....loved him in those.
       
      Mario Medina

      Huntleigh Latin America
      2602 NW 97 Avenue
      Miami, FL 33172
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      Group: pota Message: 44452 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes
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      Jeff I agree. I  didnt realize Roddy had been recast until I saw the film this year. The other actor did a great job. Im talking more along the lines of remake as per a mini series or an epic treatment of the story.
       
      Mario Medina

      Huntleigh Latin America
      2602 NW 97 Avenue
      Miami, FL 33172
      Tel: 305-463-0526
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      Group: pota Message: 44453 From: mariohnelatin@aol.com Date: 1/11/2008
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      LOL...yeah. The lake was pure salt practically....so the whole escape thing was just si,ilar to galactica 1980
       
      Mario Medina

      Huntleigh Latin America
      2602 NW 97 Avenue
      Miami, FL 33172
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      Group: pota Message: 44454 From: Jeff Date: 1/11/2008
      Subject: Windows Desktop Themes
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      Greetings, everyone. Besides the two desktop themes posted in the
      Files Section, I have a number of other Windows Desktop Themes based on
      both the 1968 and 2001 Apes films. If you would like to have these
      other themes, just drop me an e-mail (RedSpy13@...) and I will be
      more than happy to share them with you. Simian Smiles, everyone!

      Jeff (RedSpy)
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