Anyone here familiar at all with Hicksville, NY? If so, please get in
touch at the above address. I have a little reconnoitering that needs
doing.

And honestly, how often do you get to use the term 'reconnoitering'?
:-)


Thanks,
Chris L.

Not at all Apes related, unless you ate these while watching the animated
series back in 1975...

At any rate, both of these breakfast cereals- while still in production-
are only available in certain markets in the U.S. And apparently the
Northeastern States aren't among them. So if any of you members down
South, out in the Midwest, or simply out West happen to see either of
these at your next trip to the grocery store, could you contact me at the
above e-mail address?

More info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaboom%21_%28breakfast_cereal%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Vitaman


Thanks,

Chris L.

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Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:49 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] OT 2- Long Island

hi yes goapebilly lives on long island about 20 minutes from hicksville   goapebilly

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:

>
> Not at all Apes related, unless you ate these while watching the

animated

> series back in 1975...
>
> > > More info here:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaboom%21_%28breakfast_cereal%29
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Vitaman
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris L.
>

Hi Chris,

I understand that there may be other stores that do this, Vermont
Country Store has a reputation for finding many old-time and missing
through the years products. There web site it:
http://www.vermontcountrystore.com/custserv/customerservicemain.jsp?
cid=77. They LOVE finding old products. They have located a couple
for me. They keep your request on record, too, if you like and
update you along the way as they search for you.

Good luck. I remember Kaboom! but not King Vitamin.

Helen

I had my postcard too! Which is conclusive proof that there IS still a
remnant of a postal service between the UK and the US! Thanks--biggest
smile I've hads since my mother-in-law fell and hit her head.She never
can spot my trip wires.John, Scrolls.

>
> It seems these postcards aren't just a phenomenon limited to American
> soil, I've just had one arrive as well.
>
> Thank you James, A simple and elegant idea that makes me feel a part
> of something good.
>
> Dave B
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "DONNA SPIRES" <dspires501@> wrote:
> >
> > Happy 40th Anniverary Everyone!
> >
> > James
> >
> > Thank you for the Postcard.
>

> Good luck. I remember Kaboom! but not King Vitamin.

Kaboom! is still sold here in KY. My mom bought us a box way back
when ('72? '73?) That was the nastiest cereal I've ever tasted in my
life!

Seems like I've seen King Vitamin on the shelves around here, too, but
I wouldn't swear to it.

Hunter

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"King Vitaman, have breakfast with the King..." I remember the jingle. Never tried the cereal.

 

Bruce

 

In a message dated 2/10/2008 10:31:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, goathunter@... writes:

> Good luck. I remember Kaboom! but not King Vitamin.

Kaboom! is still sold here in KY. My mom bought us a box way back
when ('72? '73?) That was the nastiest cereal I've ever tasted in my
life!

Seems like I've seen King Vitamin on the shelves around here, too, but
I wouldn't swear to it.

Hunter

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Goodness!  I haven't heard about Kaboom or King Vitaman cereals in years.  I remember both very well, I know that I'd eaten those products way back when.   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: ape_mom Date: 02/10/08 08:42:46 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Re: OT 1- Kaboom! and King Vitaman   --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@. ..> wrote: > > Not at all Apes related, unless you ate these while watching the animated > series back in 1975... > > > > More info here: > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Kaboom%21_ %28breakfast_ cereal%29 > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ King_Vitaman > > > Thanks, > > Chris L. > Hi Chris, I understand that there may be other stores that do this, Vermont Country Store has a reputation for finding many old-time and missing through the years products. There web site it: http://www.vermontc ountrystore. com/custserv/ customerservicem ain.jsp? cid=77. They LOVE finding old products. They have located a couple for me. They keep your request on record, too, if you like and update you along the way as they search for you. Good luck. I remember Kaboom! but not King Vitamin. Helen

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Man, those two bring back memories. LOL I even have a "Quisp"
cartoon file.

Jeff (RedSpy)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> Goodness! I haven't heard about Kaboom or King Vitaman cereals in
years. I
> remember both very well, I know that I'd eaten those products way
back when.
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: ape_mom
>
> Date: 02/10/08 08:42:46
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [pota] Re: OT 1- Kaboom! and King Vitaman
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Not at all Apes related, unless you ate these while watching the
>
> animated
>
> > series back in 1975...
>
> >
>
> > > > More info here:
>
> >
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaboom%21_%28breakfast_cereal%29
>
> >
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Vitaman
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Thanks,
>
> >
>
> > Chris L.
>
> >
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
>
>
> I understand that there may be other stores that do this, Vermont
>
> Country Store has a reputation for finding many old-time and
missing
>
> through the years products. There web site it:
>
> http://www.vermontcountrystore.com/custserv/customerservicemain.jsp?
>
> cid=77. They LOVE finding old products. They have located a couple
>
> for me. They keep your request on record, too, if you like and
>
> update you along the way as they search for you.
>
>
>
> Good luck. I remember Kaboom! but not King Vitamin.
>
>
>
> Helen
>

There are scans for the ads on Hunter's site (https://pota.goatley.com/ads.html") but I heard from a reliable source that Diamond may have made the announcement a bit prematurely.

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Personally I hate when companies do that. When Polar Lights re-issued all those plastic hobby kits the prices on the Aurora and Addar originals dropped. Why can't they release Mego "follow-ups" like different  characters and different costumes & packaging? How about new playsets? 

 

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Personally I hate when companies do that. When Polar Lights re-issued all those plastic hobby kits the prices on the Aurora and Addar originals dropped. Why can't they release Mego "follow-ups" like different  characters and different costumes & packaging? How about new playsets? 

 

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Well, all I can say to that is "thanks" to FOX for being so idiotic as to put the Stautue Of Liberty on the DVD/videotape boxes and ruining the ending. There's that, and as you said, all the references over the years, they didn't help either. Take that SIMPSONS episode with the APES musical for example, there's another way the ending was given away. It's no wonder that your friends knew the ending, they knew it before they ever seen the film.

drhasslein <drhasslein@...> wrote:

Anyone I screen it for who hasn't seen it before, they see the ending a mile away.

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No entirely true. There was one PLANET stamp from South Africa that was based on the real PLANET film (not the Burton take on the name). It still shows up on ebay from time to time.

"Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

They were for the Burton film.....

Dave B <smugster2000@...> wrote:

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> "They should do PoTA, Jessica. It's a great idea!

I'm sure I've seen POTA themed stamps on eBay - I don't know what
country issued them though.

dave

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If anyone has any Apes-related video that has *not* appeared on the
first 2 Rarities discs, please send me email. I realized after the
fact that I left off a Sonny & Cher spoof that Tim had sent me, so I'm
already thinking about a possible 3rd DVD. However, I don't really
have much besides that spoof and a whole bunch of different trailers,
some of which have appeared on the commercial releases (and the rest I
just find kind of boring).

Because I'm already walking a copyright tightrope, I will not include
things that are available commercially (the "Spaceballs", "Simpsons",
etc, spoofs, for example). But if you have anything else (convention
footage, other TV show references, etc.), please let me know!

Thanks.

Hunter
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A couple years back when this same company redid the Mego Mad Monsters
there was a whole second series that was released and none of them had
been produced before. Although, I also will not hold my breath for new
character figures in relation to Planet of the Apes.

The second series of Mad Monsters were very generic Witch, Ghost,
Demon, and Grim Reaper; now of which would have cost anything to create
as far as copyrights and licensing was concerned. This of course would
not be the case with Apes items.

This march will be 31 years since i'd first seen PLANET OF THE APES - on UK TV - its TV Premiere on out ITV stations - 3 years after i'd first seen the TV show & read the Marvel comic book adaptations -
 
Celebrated the friday evening by treating ourselves with a DVD show of the movie after a hard day's work!!!!!!!

Happy anniversary!!!!!

APES FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!

J

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I think I talked about this once before here so my apologies to those who already heard this...I have an original Aurora Lost in Space 1966-67 model unbuilt in the box. Before Polar Lights re-released it I could have gotten as much as $700 for it had I ever chosen to sell it (which I never would). After that, the originals like mine sell on ebay for much less.

 

On the other hand, it was a nice opportunity for fans like myself to purchase (or in my case, re-purchase 30 years later) these kits at an unexpensive price and see the new ones PL also released, like the Mummy and the 3 Stooges. So although the price dropped on my originals, I'm not all that upset.  

 

Speaking of Ricardo, an Armando figure would be cool to see in Mego size...maybe a Breck and Kolp...the Lawgiver...Virgil...the list is endless.

 

 

Bruce

 

In a message dated 2/11/2008 5:55:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, aboro3085@... writes:

I find it funny that you say the prices on the originals dropped. I mean the last time I bid on originals on eBay, they usually sold in the $50-$75 range, not a "bottomed out" price if you ask me. Anyway, if someones interest in APES is monetary that's too bad, and besides that, collectibles markets fluctuate just like any other.

 

I do agree with you though that "follow-up" figures would be the way to go, but don't count on it right away. But, "maybe" there will be a new figure or two released, just as they're going to do for the Ricardo Montalban character of Khan.

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In a message dated 2/10/2008 8:42:57 A.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

I remember Kaboom! but not King Vitamin.

 

What about Quisp & Quake>

 

 

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In a message dated 2/10/2008 7:09:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, RedSpy13@... writes:

LOL I even have a "Quisp"
cartoon file.

 

I remember the toys.

A flying saucer from Quisp

and a miners helmet from Quake.

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A couple years back when this same company redid the Mego Mad Monsters
there was a whole second series that was released and none of them had
been produced before. Although, I also will not hold my breath for new
character figures in relation to Planet of the Apes.

The second series of Mad Monsters were very generic Witch, Ghost,
Demon, and Grim Reaper; none of which would have cost anything to create
as far as copyrights and licensing was concerned. This of course would
not be the case with Apes items.





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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:

>
> What about Quisp & Quake>
>

Sorry. Only vaguely. I had to look them up to find pictures.

http://www.quisp.com/
http://www.tvacres.com/admascots_quisp.htm

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:

> Speaking of Ricardo, an Armando figure would be cool to see in Mego
> size...maybe a Breck and Kolp...the Lawgiver...Virgil...the list is

endless.

The Megos were great for their time and are deservedly remembered with
great affection, but if such a series of figures were to be released
I'd much rather they were made by Medicom.

And while I have my head in the clouds it would be cool to see what
McFarlane Toys could do with a classic APES line

Dave

Greetings, everyone. Here is the link to a tribute page for Roddy
McDowall with interesting information on his life and career. There
are also multiple links at the bottom of the page to other sites
dedicated to our favorite simian. Enjoy!

http://www.actordatabase.com/roddymcdowall/

Jeff (RedSpy)

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That's the same with me:  When I saw PLANET in April 1967, it was at the Jayhawk Theatre. BENEATH would have been in July 1970 at the Grand. ESCAPE was at the Dickinson in the summer of 1971. CONQUEST was also at the Dickinson; autumn 1972. And BATTLE was during a "Go APE!" marathon where all five films were shown, back to back, on July 4, 1973, at the Gage 4 theaters.    All of these theaters are now gone.   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: James Date: 2/6/2008 8:45:07 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Re: 40 Plus   It is a shame. I saw Planet there four times, the first time in 1968, with Battle in 1973 and both Go Ape marathons in '73 & '74. What's worse all the neighborhood theaters that were around when I was a kid are all gone; the Marboro where I saw Beneath & Escape, the Kingsway where I saw Conquest and the Fortway where they did the live POTA musical. They've all closed. --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote: > > > I looked up the Walker Theatre at: > http://cinematreasu res.org/theater/ 1597/ > > Seems like it was a nice theatre. Too bad it's no more. >

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> The Megos were great for their time and are deservedly remembered with
> great affection, but if such a series of figures were to be released
> I'd much rather they were made by Medicom.

I agree.

> And while I have my head in the clouds it would be cool to see what
> McFarlane Toys could do with a classic APES line

But I disagree here. I have yet to see a McFarlane toy that I really
liked. They all look close, but not quite right.

Hunter

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http://ifc.com/news/article?aId=22110

Melinda
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http://www.yourprops.com/view_item.php?movie_prop=17523

This is a company called Your Props. 

Melinda
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Greetings, everyone. Here is a link to a site where you can download
clips from the Ultimate DVD Collection of Apes movies. It includes a
clip of the deleted alternate ending, narrated by Roddy McDowall.
Enjoy, and Simian Smiles to all!

http://homevideo.about.com/library/blplanetoftheapesdvdvideoclips032806a.htm

Jeff (RedSpy)

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>>I understand that there may be other stores that do this, Vermont

Country Store has a reputation for finding many old-time and missing
through the years products. There web site it:
http://www.vermontc ountrystore. com/custserv/ customerservicem ain.jsp?
cid=77. They LOVE finding old products. They have located a couple
for me. They keep your request on record, too, if you like and
update you along the way as they search for you.

Good luck. I remember Kaboom! but not King Vitamin. <<

>>Kaboom! is still sold here in KY. My mom bought us a box way

back
when ('72? '73?) That was the nastiest cereal I've ever tasted in my life! <<

>>"King Vitaman, have breakfast with the King..." I remember the

jingle. Never
tried the cereal. <<

>>Man, those two bring back memories. LOL I even have a "Quisp"

cartoon file. <<

>>Goodness! I haven't heard about Kaboom or King Vitaman cereals in

years. I
remember both very well, I know that I'd eaten those products way back when. << <.html

Well, I'm going to ask everyone to please cut out the off topic posts. They've gotten a bit out of hand lately. Thanks.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> Hey- if I'm going off topic, I'm going WAAAAAYYYYY off topic...
>
>
> Chris L.
>

Interesting article Melinda. The person that wrote doesn't seem to think that highly about Taylor as a hero. Thanks for posting the link.

 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Melinda G Kettler <mgkettler@...> wrote:
>
>
> The Independent Film Channel website has an article about 40 years of POTA. Go to this link:
>
> http://ifc.com/news/article?aId=22110
>
> Melinda
>

Nice, they have a Gorilla http://www.yourprops.com/view_item.php?movie_prop=5438 and Orangutan outfit too http://www.yourprops.com/view_item.php?movie_prop=875 .

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Melinda G Kettler <mgkettler@...> wrote:
>
>
> Go to this link:
>
> http://www.yourprops.com/view_item.php?movie_prop=17523
>
> This is a company called Your Props.
>
> Melinda
>

It always kind of baffles me when these reviewers say that Franciscus
(Brent) bore such a strong resemblance to Heston. I really do not see
that at all? I mean they both have two arms and legs etc but facially?

Dave

> It always kind of baffles me when these reviewers say that Franciscus
> (Brent) bore such a strong resemblance to Heston. I really do not see
> that at all? I mean they both have two arms and legs etc but facially?

I used to (like, when I was 10, 12) think they looked exactly alike,
and always figured that was why they hired Franciscus. But as I got
older, I didn't see the resemblance as much.

Hunter

Does anyone have the video for these Apes-related talk show
appearances?

The Tonight Show
W/ guest Paul Williams as Virgil
February 26, 1973

The Mike Douglas Show
w/ guest Dan Striepke
September 17, 1974

Phil Donahue Show
W/ guest Frank Westmore
Phil made up as Orangutang
April 29, 1976

If you have any of these, or know someone who does, please drop me a
line! (Thanks to James for tracking down the dates a while back.)

Hunter

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:

>
> It always kind of baffles me when these reviewers say that Franciscus
> (Brent) bore such a strong resemblance to Heston. I really do not see
> that at all? I mean they both have two arms and legs etc but facially?
>
> Dave
>

I think they look a lot alike. Franciscus has a softer manner, but I
think their features and their overall presentation (aura) are very
similar. I have a bit of a problem with facial recognition, so I may
not be your best source.

Hey guys, I finally received the new issue of Scrolls. The post office
made me come claim it and even asked my address this time around.
What, is John smuggling dope in the pages? But never mind.

Cost is $6, that includes shipping, and write me at valwp@...
for my address so you can pay me. I don't take paypal, but I do take
checks, money orders and carefully concealed cash, though I can't be
responsible if some friendly person RIPS the money right out of the
envelope or something.

I ship on Mondays, so if your payment hits me late Monday or Tuesday
it'll be a few days before you receive your copy.

Thanks and yay, Scrolls are here!
Kass

All Humans look alike. LOL

Jeff (RedSpy)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> >
> > It always kind of baffles me when these reviewers say that
Franciscus
> > (Brent) bore such a strong resemblance to Heston. I really do not
see
> > that at all? I mean they both have two arms and legs etc but
facially?
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
>
> I think they look a lot alike. Franciscus has a softer manner, but
I
> think their features and their overall presentation (aura) are very
> similar. I have a bit of a problem with facial recognition, so I
may
> not be your best source.
>

Hey guys, I finally received the new issue of Scrolls. The post office
made me come claim it and even asked my address this time around.
What, is John smuggling dope in the pages? But never mind.

Cost is $6, that includes shipping, and write me at valwp@yahoo. com
for my address so you can pay me. I don't take paypal, but I do take
checks, money orders and carefully concealed cash, though I can't be
responsible if some friendly person RIPS the money right out of the
envelope or something.

I ship on Mondays, so if your payment hits me late Monday or Tuesday
it'll be a few days before you receive your copy.

Thanks and yay, Scrolls are here!
Kass

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "valwp" <valwp@...> wrote:

>
> Hey guys, I finally received the new issue of Scrolls. The post office
> made me come claim it and even asked my address this time around.
> What, is John smuggling dope in the pages? But never mind.
>

So they didn't figure out that if you treat the pages with ammonium peroxide...oh never mind.

The only 'dope' connected with Scrolls is me, the dope who posted them
in such a way that thery took so long to arrive. When these were
posted, McCain was on the ropes and Hillary was unbeatable! Glad they
got there.Phew! John, Scrolls.

>
> Hey guys, I finally received the new issue of Scrolls. The post

office

> made me come claim it and even asked my address this time around.
> What, is John smuggling dope in the pages? But never mind.
>
> Cost is $6, that includes shipping, and write me at valwp@...
> for my address so you can pay me. I don't take paypal, but I do take
> checks, money orders and carefully concealed cash, though I can't be
> responsible if some friendly person RIPS the money right out of the
> envelope or something.
>
> I ship on Mondays, so if your payment hits me late Monday or Tuesday
> it'll be a few days before you receive your copy.
>
> Thanks and yay, Scrolls are here!
> Kass
>

Now that the issues have arrived we can announce a contest for Simian Scrolls readers and Group Members.

The prizes are really great and have been provided by Dave Ballard.

First prize will be a copy of Urko's wall map recreated by Dave and suitable for framing:

Along with a printed copy of the Presidential Commission Dossier:

The Dossier has only been available in PDF format on Hunter's site (https://pota.goatley.com/misc/briefing-dossier.pdf) but now a limited number have been printed.

And a set of Dave's Planet of the Apes Bookmarks:

The first prize winner will win all the above.

The second prize winner will win their choice of either the Map or the Dossier plus a set of Bookmarks.

The third prize winner will win a copy of the Dossier and a set of Bookmarks.

The fourth prize winner will win a Medicom Soldier Ape MOC and a set of Bookmarks.

The details of the contest will be announced in the Group on February 29th and you will need a copy of the latest issue of Simian Scrolls to win. So stay tuned.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "valwp" <valwp@...> wrote:
>
> Hey guys, I finally received the new issue of Scrolls. The post office
> made me come claim it and even asked my address this time around.
> What, is John smuggling dope in the pages? But never mind.
>
> Cost is $6, that includes shipping, and write me at valwp@...  
> for my address so you can pay me. I don't take paypal, but I do take
> checks, money orders and carefully concealed cash, though I can't be
> responsible if some friendly person RIPS the money right out of the
> envelope or something.
>
> I ship on Mondays, so if your payment hits me late Monday or Tuesday
> it'll be a few days before you receive your copy.
>
> Thanks and yay, Scrolls are here!
> Kass
>

FAR OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Feb 13, 2008 10:34 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Now that the issues have arrived we can announce a contest for Simian Scrolls readers and Group Members.

The prizes are really great and have been provided by Dave Ballard.

First prize will be a copy of Urko's wall map recreated by Dave and suitable for framing:

Along with a printed copy of the Presidential Commission Dossier:

The Dossier has only been available in PDF format on Hunter's site (https://pota.goatley.com/misc/briefing-dossier.pdf) but now a limited number have been printed.

And a set of Dave's Planet of the Apes Bookmarks:

The first prize winner will win all the above.

The second prize winner will win their choice of either the Map or the Dossier plus a set of Bookmarks.

The third prize winner will win a copy of the Dossier and a set of Bookmarks.

The fourth prize winner will win a Medicom Soldier Ape MOC and a set of Bookmarks.

The details of the contest will be announced in the Group on February 29th and you will need a copy of the latest issue of Simian Scrolls to win. So stay tuned.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "valwp" <valwp@...> wrote:
>
> Hey guys, I finally received the new issue of Scrolls. The post office
> made me come claim it and even asked my address this time around.
> What, is John smuggling dope in the pages? But never mind.
>
> Cost is $6, that includes shipping, and write me at valwp@...  
> for my address so you can pay me. I don't take paypal, but I do take
> checks, money orders and carefully concealed cash, though I can't be
> responsible if some friendly person RIPS the money right out of the
> envelope or something.
>
> I ship on Mondays, so if your payment hits me late Monday or Tuesday
> it'll be a few days before you receive your copy.
>
> Thanks and yay, Scrolls are here!
> Kass
>

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
    Will Slay...
       Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
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www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "valwp" <valwp@...> wrote:

>
> Hey guys, I finally received the new issue of Scrolls.

Damn!

I'd just finished packing my suitcase and was all ready to fly out
with an emergency supply!!!

Dave

Hello,

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On Feb 13, 2008 7:22 AM, Jeff <RedSpy13@...> wrote:

All Humans look alike. LOL

Jeff (RedSpy)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> >
> > It always kind of baffles me when these reviewers say that
Franciscus
> > (Brent) bore such a strong resemblance to Heston. I really do not
see
> > that at all? I mean they both have two arms and legs etc but
facially?
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
>
> I think they look a lot alike. Franciscus has a softer manner, but
I
> think their features and their overall presentation (aura) are very
> similar. I have a bit of a problem with facial recognition, so I
may
> not be your best source.
>

Come on over, Dave! Bring some of that delicious Indian food, and I'll
buy you a taco or two and take you to a bar that will curl your hair:)

Kass

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "valwp" <valwp@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey guys, I finally received the new issue of Scrolls.
>
> Damn!
>
> I'd just finished packing my suitcase and was all ready to fly out
> with an emergency supply!!!
>
> Dave
>

Greetings, everyone. Here is the link to a page about Roddy's
appearance as super-villain The Bookworm on two episodes of the old
Batman TV series. The page even has a sound file of his voice. This
was just prior to his role as Cornelius. Also includes the original
Associated Press obituary after his untimely death. Enjoy, and Simian
Smiles to all!

http://www.1966batfan.com/bokwrm.htm

Jeff (RedSpy)

Does anyone here remember "Gorilla Milk" and "Space Food Sticks"?

-- Rory


____________

Hi Kass,

I would like to take a copy of simian scrolls also.  Please send me your address so I can send you a check too.

Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hight <snickertown@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:30 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Simian Scrolls has arrived in the US

Hello Group,

When I joined a few days ago it said it might be nice to introduce
ourselves as a new member, so I figured I would take the opportunity
to do that now.

I was hooked on Apes since the first time my dad showed it to me as a
little kid. This was in the late eighties and sci-fi had
become "bigger and better," but there was just something about those
apes for me. I thought the makeup was amazing and the story really
drew me in, even back then. I'm a sucker for a great story and it's
so much better if the story withstands multiple readings--on multiple
levels--which the Apes movies certain do—particularly the original.
(And the connection to Serling is an added bonus in my book.)

I have also been a collector of Apes items for more than a decade;
mostly in the arena of toys, but I have just recently started to deal
in paper items as well. I had been a solitary collector to this
point, but over time I have acquired a few items that baffled me
(most of which are likely bootlegs). I figured I might also take
this opportunity to see if any of you could tell me about one
particular figure. (I posted a link below to the image.) Here is what
I know—I bought it about ten years ago from a big collector in PA,
the figure is 3 ½ inches high, made of plastic, and of General Ursus.
What I would like to know is anything else you can tell me. Where was
it made? When was it made? Who was it made by? Where there other
figures in the line? Where they licensed?

Thanks for you help in advance.
Mark

http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/view/4613?b=1


(I also posted a few more pictures in the photo section including
images of one of the Astro Apes and header card—I saw a post about
them last week.)

Hey Mark..and welcome!
I believe that your Ursus figure is a Mexican knock
off.....
pretty cool!!

Tim
--- Mark <fscstu@...> wrote:

> Hello Group,
>
> When I joined a few days ago it said it might be
> nice to introduce
> ourselves as a new member, so I figured I would take
> the opportunity
> to do that now.
>
> I was hooked on Apes since the first time my dad
> showed it to me as a
> little kid. This was in the late eighties and sci-fi
> had
> become "bigger and better," but there was just
> something about those
> apes for me. I thought the makeup was amazing and
> the story really
> drew me in, even back then. I'm a sucker for a great
> story and it's
> so much better if the story withstands multiple
> readings--on multiple
> levels--which the Apes movies certain
> do—particularly the original.
> (And the connection to Serling is an added bonus in
> my book.)
>
> I have also been a collector of Apes items for more
> than a decade;
> mostly in the arena of toys, but I have just
> recently started to deal
> in paper items as well. I had been a solitary
> collector to this
> point, but over time I have acquired a few items
> that baffled me
> (most of which are likely bootlegs). I figured I
> might also take
> this opportunity to see if any of you could tell me
> about one
> particular figure. (I posted a link below to the
> image.) Here is what
> I know—I bought it about ten years ago from a big
> collector in PA,
> the figure is 3 ½ inches high, made of plastic, and
> of General Ursus.
> What I would like to know is anything else you can
> tell me. Where was
> it made? When was it made? Who was it made by? Where
> there other
> figures in the line? Where they licensed?
>
> Thanks for you help in advance.
> Mark
>
>

http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/view/4613?b=1

>
>
>
> (I also posted a few more pictures in the photo
> section including
> images of one of the Astro Apes and header card—I
> saw a post about
> them last week.)
>
>
>

________________________

Greetings, everyone. A friend asked me to go through my old collection
of Wacky Packages stickers to find a specific product spoof for him,
and while searching through the collection I came across a spoof of the
Planet of the Apes bubblegum cards. I have posted it to the Files
Section for everyone in the group to enjoy. Simian Smiles to all!

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4NizR4DCsdS18WLgisxwdCbiME7rAFFFzMoeigwPmD3
CzvEcJP2qoFvIs-t715m3Ckx5SItFxOyIJLUaGC6VOUVLcH700g/Planet%20of%20the%
20Grapes.jpg

Jeff (RedSpy)

Hey Mark,

Welcome aboard

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <fscstu@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Group,
>
> When I joined a few days ago it said it might be nice to introduce
> ourselves as a new member, so I figured I would take the opportunity
> to do that now.
>
> I was hooked on Apes since the first time my dad showed it to me as a
> little kid. This was in the late eighties and sci-fi had
> become "bigger and better," but there was just something about those
> apes for me. I thought the makeup was amazing and the story really
> drew me in, even back then. I'm a sucker for a great story and it's
> so much better if the story withstands multiple readings--on multiple
> levels--which the Apes movies certain do—particularly the original.
> (And the connection to Serling is an added bonus in my book.)
>
> I have also been a collector of Apes items for more than a decade;
> mostly in the arena of toys, but I have just recently started to deal
> in paper items as well. I had been a solitary collector to this
> point, but over time I have acquired a few items that baffled me
> (most of which are likely bootlegs). I figured I might also take
> this opportunity to see if any of you could tell me about one
> particular figure. (I posted a link below to the image.) Here is what
> I know—I bought it about ten years ago from a big collector in PA,
> the figure is 3 ½ inches high, made of plastic, and of General Ursus.
> What I would like to know is anything else you can tell me. Where was
> it made? When was it made? Who was it made by? Where there other
> figures in the line? Where they licensed?
>
> Thanks for you help in advance.
> Mark
>
> http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/view/4613?b=1
>
>
> (I also posted a few more pictures in the photo section including
> images of one of the Astro Apes and header card—I saw a post about
> them last week.)
>

Thanks Jeff, very cool!

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/PlanetoftheGrapes.jpg

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings, everyone. A friend asked me to go through my old collection
> of Wacky Packages stickers to find a specific product spoof for him,
> and while searching through the collection I came across a spoof of the
> Planet of the Apes bubblegum cards. I have posted it to the Files
> Section for everyone in the group to enjoy. Simian Smiles to all!
>
> http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4NizR4DCsdS18WLgisxwdCbiME7rAFFFzMoeigwPmD3
> CzvEcJP2qoFvIs-t715m3Ckx5SItFxOyIJLUaGC6VOUVLcH700g/Planet%20of%20the%
> 20Grapes.jpg
>
> Jeff (RedSpy)
>

Glad you like it, James. Thanks for fixing the link. I hope
everyone likes it!

Jeff (RedSpy)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Jeff, very cool!
>
>
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/PlanetoftheGrapes.jpg
>
<http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/PlanetoftheGrapes.jpg
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings, everyone. A friend asked me to go through my old
collection
> > of Wacky Packages stickers to find a specific product spoof for
him,
> > and while searching through the collection I came across a spoof
of
> the
> > Planet of the Apes bubblegum cards. I have posted it to the Files
> > Section for everyone in the group to enjoy. Simian Smiles to all!
> >
> >
>
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4NizR4DCsdS18WLgisxwdCbiME7rAFFFzMoeigwPm
D3
> > CzvEcJP2qoFvIs-t715m3Ckx5SItFxOyIJLUaGC6VOUVLcH700g/Planet%20of%
20the%
> > 20Grapes.jpg
> >
> > Jeff (RedSpy)
> >
>

Does anyone think that the image of a gorilla holding a rifle above his head (from the TV
show) was an intentional parody of Lady Liberty holding aloft her torch?

It's taken me all these years to realize they are, in terms of pose, remarkably similar.

Dave

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In a message dated 2/13/2008 10:30:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

"Space Food Sticks"?

 

I love and miss them.

Those and Breakfast Bars.

 

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The latest entry of CORNELIUS' JOURNAL is now available. 

To read the JOURNAL entry either click the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm

Have a great weekend everybody!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

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for letung me join
i love the first novels from the first moviesi still have them. i
loved the movies as a kid growing up as they came out. when ever 1 was
showing i watched it. i collected the action figures, the magaizines.
today the comics are great

Does anyone think that the image of a gorilla holding a rifle above his head (from the TV
show) was an intentional parody of Lady Liberty holding aloft her torch?

It's taken me all these years to realize they are, in terms of pose, remarkably similar.

Dave

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Welcome to the group, Jake. We look forward to getting to know you.

Jeff (RedSpy)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jake edwards" <jakedwrds@...> wrote:
>
> for letung me join
> i love the first novels from the first moviesi still have them. i
> loved the movies as a kid growing up as they came out. when ever 1
was
> showing i watched it. i collected the action figures, the
magaizines.
> today the comics are great
>

The Lawgiver...

Who was he?

Creator?

Was he an organic being?

Did the Great Lawgiver have descendents?


The Apes...

Did they worship the Great Lawgiver? Or did they follow his
teachings? Was he their god, or was he a "prophet"?

What did they truly believe to be the roots of their origin?

… evolution?

… creation?



I know you've been through this all, but how did it work? Were
there "believers" and "saints"? I just got to thinking about it
after reading the Journal.



(Hmmm... I wonder why the word "politics" got me thinking about
this.)

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Dave, I hadn't thought of that.  That was some very good food for thought.   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: David Giwner Date: 2/15/2008 8:09:05 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [pota] Icons   I love that pose. I was thinking that would make a great tattoo. Dave NYC.... Dave B <smugster2000@ yahoo.com> wrote: Does anyone think that the image of a gorilla holding a rifle above his head (from the TV show) was an intentional parody of Lady Liberty holding aloft her torch? It's taken me all these years to realize they are, in terms of pose, remarkably similar. Dave Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

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On 2/16/08, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> wrote:

Dave, I hadn't thought of that.  That was some very good food for thought.   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: David Giwner Date: 2/15/2008 8:09:05 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [pota] Icons   I love that pose. I was thinking that would make a great tattoo. Dave NYC.... Dave B <smugster2000@...> wrote: Does anyone think that the image of a gorilla holding a rifle above his head (from the TV show) was an intentional parody of Lady Liberty holding aloft her torch? It's taken me all these years to realize they are, in terms of pose, remarkably similar. Dave   Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

 

Could well have been afterall what was left of her was a big feature in
the first film..bobby

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In a message dated 2/6/2008 4:29:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Now, this could be sighted as a reason companies like Fox need to make
sure the Blu-ray versions offer lots more extras. Am I right or wrong?

 

With companies like Time Warner and Net Flicks going Blu-Ray exclusively

HD-DVD may as well throw in the towel.  The format war, much like the

Writer's Strike, is more or less over.  I'm only waiting for a price drop.

.

 

 

 

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Thanks to Bob M. for letting me know that Linda Harrison will be
appearing at this year's Wonderfest in Louisville, KY, July 19--20,
2008.

http://www.wonderfest.com/

I hope to attend.

Hunter

.html Hi Hunter, I hope you make it, she is really nice. Say hello from me, lol.
 
Rob R

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com
CC: potadg@yahoogroups.com
From: goathunter@...
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:12:53 -0600
Subject: [pota] Linda Harrison to appear at Wonderfest

Thanks to Bob M. for letting me know that Linda Harrison will be
appearing at this year's Wonderfest in Louisville, KY, July 19--20,
2008.

http://www.wonderfe st.com/

I hope to attend.

Hunter

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Hi everyone

I've just joined the group and I've just purchased a Chimp warrior
outfit from Tim Burton's film. What I really want to finish it off is a
decent chimp mask and chimp hands. The problem is they seem to demand
big money. I did see photos on the forum that some people have
obviously got quite a collection and I was wondering if anyone could
help as to where I could get hold of one. I really dont have the
abilities to make one myself. Any help anyone could give would be much
appreciated.

Cheers

Colin

That's only 7 hours from me! I might go too!!!!!

Tim
--- Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

> Thanks to Bob M. for letting me know that Linda
> Harrison will be
> appearing at this year's Wonderfest in Louisville,
> KY, July 19--20,
> 2008.
>
> http://www.wonderfest.com/
>
> I hope to attend.
>
> Hunter
>

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Welcome to the group, Colin!   Zach    -------Original Message-------   From: pinballuk_co_uk Date: 2/17/2008 9:03:42 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] New member   Hi everyone I've just joined the group and I've just purchased a Chimp warrior outfit from Tim Burton's film. What I really want to finish it off is a decent chimp mask and chimp hands. The problem is they seem to demand big money. I did see photos on the forum that some people have obviously got quite a collection and I was wondering if anyone could help as to where I could get hold of one. I really dont have the abilities to make one myself. Any help anyone could give would be much appreciated. Cheers Colin

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Hello to the pota faithful,
Thanks for having me, I thought I was the
only one who had the pota bug. I feel like
I just came out of the pota closet. I have
been a fan of the makeup as long as I can
remember and will alway's pay tribute to John Chambers.
I am a big fan of Roddy McDowell and have played
Cornelius many times behind the makeup.

Thanks for being here!

Daniel i.e Hub

Greetings, Daniel, and welcome.

Jeff (RedSpy)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hubcomic" <hubcomic@...> wrote:
>
> Hello to the pota faithful,
> Thanks for having me, I thought I was the
> only one who had the pota bug. I feel like
> I just came out of the pota closet. I have
> been a fan of the makeup as long as I can
> remember and will alway's pay tribute to John Chambers.
> I am a big fan of Roddy McDowell and have played
> Cornelius many times behind the makeup.
>
> Thanks for being here!
>
> Daniel i.e Hub
>

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff <RedSpy13@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 1:32 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: New Member

.html Welcome to the clan Dan!
 
Rob R

---

To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: PofTAfan@...
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:45:50 -0500
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: New Member

Welcome to the family Daniel.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff <RedSpy13@aol. com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 1:32 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: New Member

Greetings, Daniel, and welcome.

Jeff (RedSpy)

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "hubcomic" <hubcomic@.. .> wrote:
>
> Hello to the pota faithful,
> Thanks for having me, I thought I was the
> only one who had the pota bug. I feel like
> I just came out of the pota closet. I have
> been a fan of the makeup as long as I can
> remember and will alway's pay tribute to John Chambers.
> I am a big fan of Roddy McDowell and have played
> Cornelius many times behind the makeup.
>
> Thanks for being here!
>
> Daniel i.e Hub
>

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welcome aboard dani..you are in good hands here,,dunno about safe hands
lol but at least with kindred spirits..all the best Bob

welcome aoard colin im sure you'll get the help you need here..Bob

Greetings, everyone. I have discovered a free space flight simulator
called "Orbiter", which is very realistic and absolutely cool! Besides
having replicas of actual NASA spacecraft, there are add-on modules for
spacecraft from the world of sci-fi, such as Battlestar Galactica, Star
Trek, Space: 1999, etc. What will be of interest to the folks here is
that there are two Icarus replicas, as well. I have included the link
to the home page, where you can download the program for free. In the
menu on the left, click "Related Sites", and then choose the first
site, "Orbit Hangar Mods". There are a LOT of mods there, so just do a
search for "Icarus" and it will produce the two replicas. I hope some
of you find it as cool as I did. Enjoy, and Simian Smiles to all!

http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html"

Jeff (RedSpy)

Hey all. I recently was asked about art from my work on Revolution on
Planet of the Apes, and have started to scan and post the pages as is,
vs photoshoped and cleaned up for print so that the inquirer's could
have a look at them and get back to me about buying some. So far i
don't know if they are going to go for any, but i thought you guys
might like to see them and maybe even bid on one? at any rate I'll be
leaving these up and add more as i dig them up. Been pretty busy since
i did this so the art has gotten a bit buried.

So, here's the raw art - the scans are even a bit lighter than real
life, so the light gray in the blacks are somewhat exaggerated.
http://picasaweb.google.com/salgood/ROPOTA
And here for contrast is the way the work looked when i sent them off
to Mr Comics.
http://salgoodsam.com/comix/goape/2.html"

Was a fun book to do, too bad Mr Comics couldn't hang on to the rights
for a bit longer, would have liked to do more Apes stories.

cheers all

max
aka - salgoodsam.com

This is pretty simply to answer, guys.... Because the ratings for APES
was so piss poor, CBS gave its affiliates permission to replace APES
with other programming, at least for one episode. Some markets in the
country did it, others did not. I was living in Ft. Lauderdale at the
time, and the Miami CBS affiliate did not show The Liberator. I guess
the ratings were so bad that even the CBS owned station in NYC rather
show something else, but maybe the show pulled better ratings in LA or
maybe because Fox is in LA CBS didn't dare not show it there? Oh well!
Ancient history now.

-- Rory

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(as opposed to Nova on Planet of the Apes!)

PBS tonight is airing a show on Ape Genius!

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/apegenius/

Tim

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On Feb 18, 2008 1:52 PM, Jeff <RedSpy13@...> wrote:

Greetings, everyone. I have discovered a free space flight simulator
called "Orbiter", which is very realistic and absolutely cool! Besides
having replicas of actual NASA spacecraft, there are add-on modules for
spacecraft from the world of sci-fi, such as Battlestar Galactica, Star
Trek, Space: 1999, etc. What will be of interest to the folks here is
that there are two Icarus replicas, as well. I have included the link
to the home page, where you can download the program for free. In the
menu on the left, click "Related Sites", and then choose the first
site, "Orbit Hangar Mods". There are a LOT of mods there, so just do a
search for "Icarus" and it will produce the two replicas. I hope some
of you find it as cool as I did. Enjoy, and Simian Smiles to all!

http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html"

Jeff (RedSpy)

Thanks Max. You did some great work on the Revolution series. It is a shame that MR Comics didn't promote it better. Any news on the trade paperback and when that might be released?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Max Douglas" <salgood@...> wrote:
>
> Hey all. I recently was asked about art from my work on Revolution on
> Planet of the Apes, and have started to scan and post the pages as is,
> vs photoshoped and cleaned up for print so that the inquirer's could
> have a look at them and get back to me about buying some. So far i
> don't know if they are going to go for any, but i thought you guys
> might like to see them and maybe even bid on one? at any rate I'll be
> leaving these up and add more as i dig them up. Been pretty busy since
> i did this so the art has gotten a bit buried.
>
> So, here's the raw art - the scans are even a bit lighter than real
> life, so the light gray in the blacks are somewhat exaggerated.
> http://picasaweb.google.com/salgood/ROPOTA
> And here for contrast is the way the work looked when i sent them off
> to Mr Comics.
> http://salgoodsam.com/comix/goape/2.htmlbr>>
> Was a fun book to do, too bad Mr Comics couldn't hang on to the rights
> for a bit longer, would have liked to do more Apes stories.
>
> cheers all
>
> max
> aka - salgoodsam.com
>

Thanks for sharing this Jeff. You've become a very valued member of the group.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings, everyone. I have discovered a free space flight simulator
> called "Orbiter", which is very realistic and absolutely cool! Besides
> having replicas of actual NASA spacecraft, there are add-on modules for
> spacecraft from the world of sci-fi, such as Battlestar Galactica, Star
> Trek, Space: 1999, etc. What will be of interest to the folks here is
> that there are two Icarus replicas, as well. I have included the link
> to the home page, where you can download the program for free. In the
> menu on the left, click "Related Sites", and then choose the first
> site, "Orbit Hangar Mods". There are a LOT of mods there, so just do a
> search for "Icarus" and it will produce the two replicas. I hope some
> of you find it as cool as I did. Enjoy, and Simian Smiles to all!
>
> http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.htmlbr>>
> Jeff (RedSpy)
>

Welcome to both Colin and Daniel. Nice to meet more POTA fans. Please feel free to explore all the group's resources.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bobby Smyth" <cuddybuddy69@...> wrote:
>
> welcome aoard colin im sure you'll get the help you need here..Bob
>

Thank you for your kind words, James. I am very happy that I found
this group, and everyone has been great in making me feel welcome. I
have made some very valued friendships here. I'm glad I had things
to contribute, and I have gained a lot from my membership. Big,
hairy hugs to everybody! LOL

Jeff (RedSpy)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for sharing this Jeff. You've become a very valued member of
the
> group.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings, everyone. I have discovered a free space flight
simulator
> > called "Orbiter", which is very realistic and absolutely cool!
Besides
> > having replicas of actual NASA spacecraft, there are add-on
modules
> for
> > spacecraft from the world of sci-fi, such as Battlestar Galactica,
> Star
> > Trek, Space: 1999, etc. What will be of interest to the folks
here is
> > that there are two Icarus replicas, as well. I have included the
link
> > to the home page, where you can download the program for free. In
the
> > menu on the left, click "Related Sites", and then choose the first
> > site, "Orbit Hangar Mods". There are a LOT of mods there, so just
do a
> > search for "Icarus" and it will produce the two replicas. I hope
some
> > of you find it as cool as I did. Enjoy, and Simian Smiles to all!
> >
> > http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html"
> >
> > Jeff (RedSpy)
> >
>

On Feb 19, 2008 2:44 PM, Jeff <RedSpy13@...> wrote:

Thank you for your kind words, James. I am very happy that I found
this group, and everyone has been great in making me feel welcome. I
have made some very valued friendships here. I'm glad I had things
to contribute, and I have gained a lot from my membership. Big,
hairy hugs to everybody! LOL

Jeff (RedSpy)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for sharing this Jeff. You've become a very valued member of
the
> group.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings, everyone. I have discovered a free space flight
simulator
> > called "Orbiter", which is very realistic and absolutely cool!
Besides
> > having replicas of actual NASA spacecraft, there are add-on
modules
> for
> > spacecraft from the world of sci-fi, such as Battlestar Galactica,
> Star
> > Trek, Space: 1999, etc. What will be of interest to the folks
here is
> > that there are two Icarus replicas, as well. I have included the
link
> > to the home page, where you can download the program for free. In
the
> > menu on the left, click "Related Sites", and then choose the first
> > site, "Orbit Hangar Mods". There are a LOT of mods there, so just
do a
> > search for "Icarus" and it will produce the two replicas. I hope
some
> > of you find it as cool as I did. Enjoy, and Simian Smiles to all!
> >
> > http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html"
> >
> > Jeff (RedSpy)
> >
>

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I lived in N.E. Ft. Lauderdale from November 1973 to June 1977.  I moved back to N.E. Ft. Lauderdale in 1985 and lived there until 2006, but I've now moved to North Carolina.

 

-- Rory

 

In a message dated 2/19/2008 9:04:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, bikergator25@... writes:

Hey Rory where in Ft. LAud were you living? I gre up in Hollywood and was living there in 74...

Did I ever ask you this before?

Dave NYC...

Haristas@aol. com wrote:

This is pretty simply to answer, guys.... Because the ratings for APES
was so piss poor, CBS gave its affiliates permission to replace APES
with other programming, at least for one episode. Some markets in the
country did it, others did not. I was living in Ft. Lauderdale at the
time, and the Miami CBS affiliate did not show The Liberator. I guess
the ratings were so bad that even the CBS owned station in NYC rather
show something else, but maybe the show pulled better ratings in LA or
maybe because Fox is in LA CBS didn't dare not show it there? Oh well!
Ancient history now.

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:

> The Lawgiver... Who was he?

~~~ The Lawgiver was the greatest ape of all. He was the author of
the Sacred Scrolls, the dogma(s) that the ape society lived by. He
was a prophet, as evidenced by the line from BENEATH "And grant, in
the name of your prophet, our great Lawgiver..."~~~

> Was he an organic being?

~~~ Yes. ~~~

> Did the Great Lawgiver have descendents?

~~~ My guess would be a big NO. ~~~

> The Apes... Did they worship the Great Lawgiver? Or did they

follow his teachings? Was he their god, or was he a "prophet"?

~~~ I don't think they actually "worshipped" him per se, but they
certainly held him in high regard/esteem. They definitely did follow
his teachings, as to disobey them would probably have been heretical.

As stated above, he was a prophet, believed to have been sent down by
God. They did have a God though, as evident in PLANET during the
trial scene when Dr. Honorius states "The Almighty created the ape in
his own image. He gave him a soul and a mind... ~~~

> What did they truly believe to be the roots of their origin?

> … evolution?
> … creation?

~~~ Created by their God (see above.) Back to PLANET, during the
trial scene, Honorius calls evolution "an insidious theory". To say
that they evolved rather than were created by God was next to (or
even possibly flat out) heresy. ~~~

I'd like to order the rarities dvd. What address do I send the disc to?

Jeff Barkley
skintricks@...

I forgot that you are in North Carolina! what city???
we should do lunch!

Tim

--- Haristas@... wrote:

> I lived in N.E. Ft. Lauderdale from November 1973 to
> June 1977. I moved
> back to N.E. Ft. Lauderdale in 1985 and lived there
> until 2006, but I've now
> moved to North Carolina.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> In a message dated 2/19/2008 9:04:23 A.M. Eastern
> Standard Time,
> bikergator25@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Hey Rory where in Ft. LAud were you living? I gre up
> in Hollywood and was
> living there in 74...
> Did I ever ask you this before?
> Dave NYC...
>
> Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> This is pretty simply to answer, guys.... Because
> the ratings for APES
> was so piss poor, CBS gave its affiliates permission
> to replace APES
> with other programming, at least for one episode.
> Some markets in the
> country did it, others did not. I was living in Ft.
> Lauderdale at the
> time, and the Miami CBS affiliate did not show The
> Liberator. I guess
> the ratings were so bad that even the CBS owned
> station in NYC rather
> show something else, but maybe the show pulled
> better ratings in LA or
> maybe because Fox is in LA CBS didn't dare not show
> it there? Oh well!
> Ancient history now.
>
> -- Rory
>
>

>

I lived in N.E. Ft. Lauderdale from November 1973 to June 1977.  I moved back to N.E. Ft. Lauderdale in 1985 and lived there until 2006, but I've now moved to North Carolina.

 

-- Rory

 

In a message dated 2/19/2008 9:04:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, bikergator25@ yahoo.com writes:

Hey Rory where in Ft. LAud were you living? I gre up in Hollywood and was living there in 74...

Did I ever ask you this before?

Dave NYC...

Haristas@aol. com wrote:

This is pretty simply to answer, guys.... Because the ratings for APES
was so piss poor, CBS gave its affiliates permission to replace APES
with other programming, at least for one episode. Some markets in the
country did it, others did not. I was living in Ft. Lauderdale at the
time, and the Miami CBS affiliate did not show The Liberator. I guess
the ratings were so bad that even the CBS owned station in NYC rather
show something else, but maybe the show pulled better ratings in LA or
maybe because Fox is in LA CBS didn't dare not show it there? Oh well!
Ancient history now.

-- Rory

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Have to agree with Mike 100% here. And this is what has guided our approach to both the 'Lessons from the Lawgiver' and the 'Cornelius' Journals'.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "aboro3085" <aboro3085@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" sand_hill_school@ wrote:
>
> > The Lawgiver... Who was he?
>
> ~~~ The Lawgiver was the greatest ape of all. He was the author of
> the Sacred Scrolls, the dogma(s) that the ape society lived by. He
> was a prophet, as evidenced by the line from BENEATH "And grant, in
> the name of your prophet, our great Lawgiver..."~~~
>
> > Was he an organic being?
>
> ~~~ Yes. ~~~
>
> > Did the Great Lawgiver have descendents?
>
> ~~~ My guess would be a big NO. ~~~
>
> > The Apes... Did they worship the Great Lawgiver? Or did they
> follow his teachings? Was he their god, or was he a "prophet"?
>
> ~~~ I don't think they actually "worshipped" him per se, but they
> certainly held him in high regard/esteem. They definitely did follow
> his teachings, as to disobey them would probably have been heretical.
>
> As stated above, he was a prophet, believed to have been sent down by
> God. They did have a God though, as evident in PLANET during the
> trial scene when Dr. Honorius states "The Almighty created the ape in
> his own image. He gave him a soul and a mind... ~~~
>
> > What did they truly believe to be the roots of their origin?
>
> > … evolution?
> > … creation?
>
> ~~~ Created by their God (see above.) Back to PLANET, during the
> trial scene, Honorius calls evolution "an insidious theory". To say
> that they evolved rather than were created by God was next to (or
> even possibly flat out) heresy. ~~~
>

I haven't been adjusting to NC very well.  Living in South Florida has spoiled me.  I'm not used to winter, and I'm outside of Asheville and I'm not used to the "ruralness."  But South Florida isn't where I want to live anymore.  It's too crowed, expensive, and now every year you live in dread of hurricanes.  I just have to get used to it here now.

-- Rory


-----Original Message-----
From: David Giwner <bikergator25@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:18 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: The Liberator. mystery solved!

I think, personally, that The Lawgiver's status is defined by Battle--
he's a mortal Ape, passing on the tales and lore of Apedom stretching
back to Caesar.The children call him 'Lawgiver' and the fact that
he's speaking to a gathering of children suggests he's more of a
teacher than a living god.That his status became more esteemed with
the passage of time is similar to, say, Abraham or David in the Old
Testament.All this still leaves open the question as to who or what
the Lawgiver was a prophet of, of course.John, Scrolls.

>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@> wrote:
>
> > The Lawgiver... Who was he?
>
> ~~~ The Lawgiver was the greatest ape of all. He was the author of
> the Sacred Scrolls, the dogma(s) that the ape society lived by. He
> was a prophet, as evidenced by the line from BENEATH "And grant, in
> the name of your prophet, our great Lawgiver..."~~~
>
> > Was he an organic being?
>
> ~~~ Yes. ~~~
>
> > Did the Great Lawgiver have descendents?
>
> ~~~ My guess would be a big NO. ~~~
>
> > The Apes... Did they worship the Great Lawgiver? Or did they
> follow his teachings? Was he their god, or was he a "prophet"?
>
> ~~~ I don't think they actually "worshipped" him per se, but they
> certainly held him in high regard/esteem. They definitely did

follow

> his teachings, as to disobey them would probably have been

heretical.

>
> As stated above, he was a prophet, believed to have been sent down

by

> God. They did have a God though, as evident in PLANET during the
> trial scene when Dr. Honorius states "The Almighty created the ape

in

> his own image. He gave him a soul and a mind... ~~~
>
> > What did they truly believe to be the roots of their origin?
>
> > … evolution?
> > … creation?
>
> ~~~ Created by their God (see above.) Back to PLANET, during the
> trial scene, Honorius calls evolution "an insidious theory". To say
> that they evolved rather than were created by God was next to (or
> even possibly flat out) heresy. ~~~
>

I'm in North Carolina, too. I love it here! After spending many
years in Virginia, this is a big improvement. I hated Virginia, and
am glad to be back in my family's home state. It's nice to know
there are other Apes-lovers in North Carolina besides me. Hairy Tar
Heels! LOL

Jeff (RedSpy)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> I haven't been adjusting to NC very well.? Living in South Florida
has spoiled me.? I'm not used to winter, and I'm outside of Asheville
and I'm not used to the "ruralness."? But South Florida isn't where I
want to live anymore.? It's too crowed, expensive, and now every year
you live in dread of hurricanes.? I just have to get used to it here
now.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Giwner <bikergator25@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:18 am
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: The Liberator. mystery solved!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> You miss South FLA?? I left in July 93 and moved to NYC..
>
> DAve NYC...
>
> Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I lived in N.E. Ft. Lauderdale from November 1973 to June 1977.? I
moved back to N.E. Ft. Lauderdale in 1985 and lived there until 2006,
but I've now moved to North Carolina.
>
> ?
>
> -- Rory
>
> ?
>
>
> In a message dated 2/19/2008 9:04:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bikergator25@... writes:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey Rory where in Ft. LAud were you living? I gre up in Hollywood
and was living there in 74...
>
> Did I ever ask you this before?
>
> Dave NYC...
>
> Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> This is pretty simply to answer, guys.... Because the ratings for
APES
> was so piss poor, CBS gave its affiliates permission to replace APES
> with other programming, at least for one episode. Some markets in
the
> country did it, others did not. I was living in Ft. Lauderdale at
the
> time, and the Miami CBS affiliate did not show The Liberator. I
guess
> the ratings were so bad that even the CBS owned station in NYC
rather
> show something else, but maybe the show pulled better ratings in LA
or
> maybe because Fox is in LA CBS didn't dare not show it there? Oh
well!
> Ancient history now.
>
> -- Rory
>
>

Greetings, everyone. Here is the link to a Retro Toy Site where people
discuss their memories of owning the original MEGO Apes Figures. I
thought you might find some of their comments interesting. Enjoy, and
Simian Smiles to all!

http://www.feelingretro.com/toys/Boy-Toys/planet-of-the-apes.php

Jeff (RedSpy)